Princess Beatrice and Eugenie are Reportedly "Struggling to Remain Cordial" With Kate Middleton and Prince William

The younger royals all seem to hate William and Kate.

Very telling.

WTF do Beatrice and Eugenie expect? Their father is toxic and everyone thinks he's a sick fuck. There's no way he can still be a working royal.

R1 do tell! Which “younger royals all seem to hate William and Kate”?

[quote] Princess Eugenie Is Secretly Feuding with The Cambridges and It's Been Fully Under the Radar—Until Now

Plot twist: a new "royal feud" is coming to steal Prince Harry and Prince William's spotlight. According to The Express, Princess Eugenie and her sister Princess Beatrice have some ongoing tension with Prince William and Kate Middleton—and at this point they're "struggling to remain cordial."

So...what's the issue? According to royal expert Neil Sean, via The Express, Beatrice and Eugenie have issues with William's plans for the royal family, and apparently want their disgraced father Prince Andrew (who's been stripped of his titles) to return to public life at some point. (Er..no thanks.)

[quote] "There is a big story breaking in the Royal Family that has remained under the radar largely, and it's to do with Prince William, the Duchess of Cambridge, and William's father Prince Charles," Neil said. "According to very good sources, Princesses Eugenie and Beatrice are seemingly struggling to remain cordial with Prince William, Catherine, and Charles. It stems from the deal organised by William, the Queen, and Prince Charles to remove their father Prince Andrew from royal duties following his disgrace in recent years."

Apparently, "thawing" of tension between the Yorks and Cambridges has been "difficult," and Neil notes that "Prince William and Charles are doing this for the benefit of the monarchy. They are reading the public mood, which is saying that Andrew should permanently retire from public life. But Andrew wants to make a return which he thinks could be achieved by his daughters carrying out charitable work."

Prince Charles wants a slimmed-down monarchy when he's King (as does Wills), and apparently this means Princess Eugenie and Princess Beatrice won't get the more formal roles they desire.

[quote] "According to that good source, it appears that William, Catherine, and Charles are on the naughty step with the princesses," Neil said (brief pause to scream at his use of "the naughty step"). "Moving forward, that could be very tricky indeed because they have retained very close relations with Meghan Markle and Prince Harry."

On top of all this, reminder that things were already a little awkward between Eugenie and the Cambridges due to them both wanting to move into the same home (Adelaide Cottage). Wills and Kate will have priority, though, due to his Future King status!

What’s very telling, R1, is your posting history.

Anybody who resorts to using the expressions “klan kunts” and “klan grannies” has lost both the argument and their marbles. Although I suspect that the latter happened a long time before the former.

William could, like, behead them and stuff if he wanted you know.

Bea, Eug? Can we talk?

The monarchy was already embarrassed by your mother. You only get one strike as a second tier Royal. Now that your father is being an ass, you’re going to be set aside. It’s just how we do things.

Be happy that someone thoughtfully included you in the tv show The Windsors. You could do a lot worse.

Jealousy can sour the sweetest females. Andrews kids want to be paid royals again, like Kate and William. Oh well. Too bad. So sad. And, damn, are they unattractive. Oh, there's another reason the troll sisters are green. SMH

I think Catherine and William are struggling to care about ugly, interfering cousins. The same cousins who pushed Megain and Dummy together. How difficult it must have been over these past few years for the Cambridges to pretend to like Bea and Gee.

Bea and E are barely royals as it is. They better not push their luck.

William needs all of the younger royals to support him.

They can easily undermine his authority, if he becomes King.

Just imagine being King, and neither your brother, nor your first cousins, nor your uncle supports you or even likes you.

That can become problematic for him.

Because it’s the 1500s, R11?

R1- They better get jobs to earn a living then because William ain’t paying for them when he’s king

[quote]Just imagine being King, and neither your brother, nor your first cousins, nor your uncle supports you or even likes you.

William couldn't give a fuck, he'll be King and by then his children will be grown and they'll be old enough for royal duties. His brother is an asshole and does anyone care if their cousins don't support them or not? Most of us have cousins we don't have much to do with and barely ever see.

[quote]nor your uncle supports you or even likes you.

We're talking about Andrew here. Nobody can stand him. The public hates him and if he just disappeared off the face of the Earth no one would be upset.

Since Beanie needs a gig and Hollywood Squares is no longer in production, she can play Eugie in the Lifetime movie: "My Family is a Royal Pain". No prosthetics required.

Their mother was involved in a toe sucking incident with a man who wasn't her husband, then she tried to sell access to her ex-husband.

Their father was an embarrassment even before he married Fergie. He was fucking around with skanks.

Bea and Genie, you're the white trash cousins.

Koo Stark?

[quote]On top of all this, reminder that things were already a little awkward between Eugenie and the Cambridges due to them both wanting to move into the same home (Adelaide Cottage). Wills and Kate will have priority, though, due to his Future King status!

That's only because Kate is desperate to get William away from his mistress Rose, who lives less than 3 miles from them in Norfolk

The Queen is also mad at William for taking the helicopter too often. He couldn't possibly be using it that much for himself and his family. He's also using it to go and visit Rose

I have no idea why the English put up with this royal nonsense. Clearly they need taxing and subjecting to same laws as everybody else. The whole royal charade is so overdue for reform. Let them chew on some cake. The situation is just bizarre.

Neil Sean (the so-called commentator sourced in the article) is nothing more than a fat white man in his late-50s yelling at the clouds on YouTube. He has no royal connections and if you look at his channel going back several months, everything he said has been proven wrong e.g. he said the Sussexes would never come for the jubilee ...)

As for Beatrice and Eugenie, there have been rumours of issues between the Yorks and Cambridges long before these issues with Andrew. Like Prince Philip before him, William hates Fergie and think she's an embarrassment to the monarchy (hence the reason he did not invite her his wedding). There has also been tension because William supports his father's decision that Beatrice and Eugenie should not be working royals.

Also, Eugenie was always closer to Harry than William, and Eugenie is the only person in the extended royal family still on speaking terms with Harry. They are said to have very common personalities (e.g. not overly bright-though Eugenie is no doubt smarter--temperamental, spoiled and married to social climbers).

As for Beatrice it seems her relationship with the Cambridge have thawed and she has been very supportive of Kate's endeavours. Kate and Beatrice shared a very warm hug at Kate's Christmas Carol Service last year.

R19 is delusional. The person who started that rumour, because fugly jealous Meghan was rejected by William, has admitted he lied about that and it isn't true. Please do try to keep up .

R20 I'm an American living in the UK and it's hard do explain. While I'm not a royalist the system actually works really well. The extended royal family are very dysfunctional but the role of the monarch (a non-political head of state) actually is fairly unifying I mean just look at the crowds at the Jubilee. That being said, in American we've just replaced royals with Hollywood celebrities. We're obsessed with their lives and scandals just in the same way the British are with the royal family.

In America we worship First Ladies and First children and celebrities and sports stars.

We are no one to talk.

[quote]According to a royal expert, Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie are reportedly upset with the royal family's decision to exclude their father, Prince Andrew, from official royal events — and the Cambridges and Prince Charles are the ones taking the heat.

Who is the idiot in the York camp who thinks this puts Bea and Eug in a sympathetic light?

I could believe this of eugenie but not Beatrice.This story does not seem believable to me somehow.

As soon as George, Charlotte, Louis become come of age, no one will give a fig about Beatrice and Eugenie.

R27- I honestly don't think anyone does now.

[quote] Koo Stark?

Damn, that's a name I haven't seen since the 1980's.

What do they expect the senior royals to do? The public despises Andrew and they do not want to see him, rightfully so. Do they believe that they should be forced to tolerate him? The people of UK have made their feelings very clear. Nothing will ever change that and no one can force people to accept the unacceptable. Andrew is unacceptable.

Take them to the Tower! They can work the Tourist Services booth. Just make sure they’re not dipping their hand in the till.

They'd better think about struggling harder, 'cause Daddy will be funding them in twenty years.

Or not, as the case may be.

r11, you have absolutely no fucking idea how the monarchy works, do you?

I think that Beatrice and Eugenie should be part of the senior royals and be given work to do. They are nice girls; they are willing and very devoted to the monarchy. And there has never been an ounce of scandal about Beatrice and Eugenie. Charles and William are being pricks. Yes, Charles wants a slimmed down monarchy; however, there is more than enough work to do and appearances to make for Beatrice and Eugenie to be working royals.

The Cambridge kids are still 15 years at least before they can take on royal roles. Who is Charles and William going to get to help out with royal duties?

I had heard that there was tension with Eugenie, but I thought Beatrice was trying get along. The downside is that these girls have to get along with Will and Kate. It is a losing situation to sympathize with the Markles. But William should not be turning his back on his cousins. Andrew on the other hand...if he wants back in, he may never get it. However, he needs to go out on his own and help people in need, but not on behalf of the monarchy. Andrew has a lot of penance to pay if there can be any respect for him. Finally, I love Sarah, Duchess of York. She my favorite of the entire bunch. She does a lot of charity work on her own. Sarah carries on. Andrew should get a clue and follow her example.

Don't people like a bigger extended royal family since there's more to gossip about and more of them to gawk at? At least in England?

R11 is more of a dope than it even realizes.

Feel sorry for those with prefrontal cortex lesions.

When William becomes King he can strip those little tarts Beatrice and Eugenie of their titles and their access to the royal gravy train.

They are the spawn of a pedo and a whore.

Beatrice and Eugenie are not publically funded. They each have (or maybe “had”, prior to giving birth) jobs. Cushy upper class jobs in a serious art gallery (Eug) and a vague VP role in a consulting company (Bea) where her key qualification is most likely her title, but jobs nonetheless. Both have husbands who work. Bea’s husband is reasonably rich.They have no need for public funding, even if they were entitled to it, which they aren’t.

Nonsense story.

And R1 can go fuck her "kunt" (sic) with a bargepole since she's the lunatic Markle fanbitch with her dozens of accounts and no real guy would fuck that putrid snatch of hers.

Beatrice and Eugenie? Are they like Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum?

Don't do anything without the other?

[quote]The Cambridge kids are still 15 years at least before they can take on royal roles.

George is 9 and Charlotte 7. They certainly won't be working full-time, but if Charles or William needs them to be the titular heads of charities, etc, they will be. Especially if they don't go to university.

[quote] When William becomes King he can strip those little tarts Beatrice and Eugenie of their titles and their access to the royal gravy train.

[quote] They are the spawn of a pedo and a whore.

Your lack of self-awareness when hurling insults, is hilarious.

William is the spawn of a (fill in the blank) and a (fill in the blank).

And then kindly SHUT THE FUCK UP.

[quote] William is the spawn of a (fill in the blank) and a (fill in the blank).

So is Harry. LOL.

R1 is Sunshine Sachs! Morning you guys! Still reeling from the Meg bio?!

Absolutely, R43. So is Harry.

But idiot asshole R37 thinks that William and Harry's parents are so much better than Eug and Bea's parents.

Charles is a cheater, a grifter who takes dirty Saudi money in bags, and says disgusting things like he wants to be Camilla's tampon.

So kindly shut the fuck up, because neither Eug and Bea's, NOR William and Harry's parents are above reproach.

This story sounds like a fabrication to take the heat off H & M and make the Cambridges look unpopular with their other cousins. I don't believe it. Yes, Andrew was deeply unhappy when his daughters were moved down the pecking order by Charles' reshuffling of the RF structure but would Bea and Eug be griping now? Timing is very convenient.

[quote]Just days after getting into a bit of trouble with Queen Elizabeth, it seems Prince William and Kate Middleton are dealing with family issues once again.

This is referring to the helicopter situation, I assume?

Beatrice and Eugenie are both perfectly fine members of the royal family, and there is no reason they cannot be used for various royal duties. If the complaints made about there being too much work now that Harry and Meghan have left were really true, then the girls should have been allowed to take on some work. The other option is, of course, reducing the overall royal workload and refusing some events and appearances. It seems like Charles is behaving like a corporation: wants to do the same amount of work with fewer employees. If he continues with this, there will be tension.

Pleeeeeeease, take a closer look at where this 'article' was published: instyle.com . . . probably just another Meghan Frau Central type of 'publication'.

I think the York sisters are being infected with Meghan’s greed and poisonous whisperings. Why can’t THEY be important to the royal family? They are princesses of the blood and now they’re being shunted off as if they’re nobody! They’re TRAPPED! If only they were free like Meghan and Harry, they could be living in a 17-bathroom mansion in California and wearing Dior couture and making billions of dollars.

Eugenie is close to Harry and Beatrice has always been rumored to be The Queen’s favorite of the grandchildren…I take this story with a grain of salt, but I also believe where there’s smoke there’s fire.

Beatrice and Eugenie understand royal protocol, but it can’t be easy to see Kate being prioritized for time with their own grandmother whom they genuinely adore. Meanwhile, they’ve always had to sit back and watch their mom get treated like shit, but now that their dad is persona non grata they probably feel like they’re being punished despite no personal wrongdoing.

The whole “slimmed down working royals” concept sounds good in theory. However, it completely ignores the fact Charles and Camilla remain relatively unpopular, and William might resemble a Spencer, but he has none of his mother’s charisma or empathy. That leaves Kate, who is STILL a blank slate, and the Cambridge kids (who are cute NOW) to pick up the slack.

The hardest working royal remains Princess Anne, and the Wessexes earn their keep as well. It would be wise to try and use the rather personable York sisters and gain the loyalty of some useful allies in the process.

[quote] William might resemble a Spencer, but he has none of his mother’s charisma or empathy.

Thank God he also has none of her nuttiness.

Haven't these girls always been bitches to Kate? A DLer posted a video of Eugenie shoving Kate aside at some event before she married William.

It’s going to be shock. Since the Queen has held on so long, has been so traditional, and had Charles so young, we may move within ten years from a prewar monarchy to a royal family run by millennials.

Well, the least nutty royal of all has been The Queen and she’s struggled to single-handedly keep the BRF relevant. The efforts of Crazy Diana and Contrarian Philip won’t continue to keep the family on life support for much longer.

[quote] Why can’t THEY be important to the royal family? They are princesses of the blood and now they’re being shunted off as if they’re nobody!

Well, it's the truth.

[quote] A DLer posted a video of Eugenie shoving Kate aside at some event before she married William.

Haha, GOOD!

Kate's a nobody.

She deserves to be shoved to the ground!

^ Says the obese-typing Markle-obsessed stinkfish.

[quote]William might resemble a Spencer, but he has none of his mother’s charisma or empathy.

Tell us more about your empathy detector...

[quote] Beatrice has always been rumored to be The Queen’s favorite of the grandchildren

Not now. The favorite now is Louise.

While Andrew might have more serious scandals, it’s not like The Cambridges come from wholly unembrassing stock. Both of Williams parents were fucking around on each other, and the royal family treated his mother like garbage. Charles is now married to one of the women he was fucking behind Diana’s back. There’s plenty of mess to go around

^ Has forgotten to mention Harry on purpose, it seems. LOL.

They should just take all the spares, spouses, and offspring to a remote island and bomb the hell out of it. Problem solved

R61, ahem, no.

When the Heir produces an Heir of his or her own, the Spare should be humanely euthanized. See you at the Rainbow Bridge, Andrew and Harry!

You never hear Princess Anne's kids griping or complaining. Says a lot about Anne's parenting. But also Zara and Peter are slightly more gainfully employed.

[quote] But also Zara and Peter are slightly more gainfully employed.

Yeah, flogging their royal status to sell milk in China.

Sorry--here's a better link:

Beatrice and Eugenie are like Cinderella's ugly stepsisters. They just won't go away.

[quote] Beatrice and Eugenie are like Cinderella's ugly stepsisters. They just won't go away.

I love how the Kate-stans used to love fawning over Beatrice and Eugenie UNTIL they started siding with Harry.

Now they're public enemy #1.

How quickly your loyalties change, the minute anyone befriends Harry and Meghan.

Pathetic!

^^^ No, I always thought that from the day they were born.

R68, what Kate stans? The only stan in here is you, and we all know who you're stanning.

They look like Cinderella's stepsisters going to the ball.

That photo at r71 is magical. Look at those heifers.

I will say that Beatrice looks better than she ever has. Edo probably encouraged a little makeover.

Granted, that fascinator of Bea's was, ummmm, fascinating indeed. But the coatdress looked nice, it was a good choice for a wedding.

It was Eugenie who looked like a clown in blue that day.

Are you saying that because you don’t like their style that they have no place in the BRF? Ever heard of Princess Anne?

I thought Beatrice is the dark one and Eugenie is the ginger.

Did you? Fascinating! If only there were a way to find out, R75!

'Genie seems more fitting for a ginge.

I actually reckon Beatrice would work really hard if she was allowed to be a working member of the royal family and would without complaint or bad attitude take on a lot of the less glamorous engagements.

Agreed, R78. Beatrice and Eugenie seem to be two of the good eggs in this bunch. I actually think Charles is horrid and William takes after them, so I tend to be on the York sisters side.

Same here, R79.

Team Bea and Eug.

I think the famous incident of the York sisters and Kate was a video of Kate's first Christmas visit to Sandringham. The sisters exited the church behind Kate but then elbowed past her to precede her down down the walkway outside.

[quote] The sisters exited the church behind Kate but then elbowed past her to precede her down down the walkway outside.

They should have pulled a "Nomi Malone" on Kate, and taught her a lesson!

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Yeah, they do remind me of the Evil Stepsisters.

Can someone let Beatrice and Eugenie know that there are two job openings at the Ministry of Silly Hats?

[quote]we may move within ten years from a prewar monarchy to a royal family run by millennials.

Camilla will be Queen for a Day!

Someone up thread mentioned charisma. Do any of the adult royals outside the Queen have a lot of charisma with the English people? Or are they just like yeah Will and Kate are good, nice respectable people who'll make a good king and queen.

[quote] Do any of the adult royals outside the Queen have a lot of charisma with the English people?

Do you really have to ask, silly?

The only Royal who ever had any charisma was Diana, and she was loaded with it.

I love Beatrice and Eugenie especially Bea. Make them full-time working royals. Charles is a douchebag.

And William is kind of a prick. It doesn't mean I like Harry--I don't. He's an arsehole. But William is still kind of a prick.

Charles married his mistress. Who does that?!

[quote]What do they expect the senior royals to do? The public despises Andrew and they do not want to see him, rightfully so. Do they believe that they should be forced to tolerate him? The people of UK have made their feelings very clear. Nothing will ever change that and no one can force people to accept the unacceptable. Andrew is unacceptable.

The Brits have been forced to tolerate Charles and his hussy mistress Camilla.

[ If only they were free like Meghan and Harry, they could be living in a 17-bathroom mansion in California and wearing Dior couture and making billions of dollars.]

Earning billions? Oh my sides. That's hilarious.

They remind me of the Willis/Moore girls for some reason.

The rumor was that Bea and Eug used to pull rank on Kate, going to the Queen to make sure the rules of protocol were enforced so that when Kate was present without William, she had to show deference to the sisters as higher ranking. I’m not sure if they thought she was only a temporary fixture or if they didn’t think long-range there, but none of these people seems particularly smart.

It would be more interesting to me if William really is getting in trouble over the helicopter thing.

Bea (the redhead with the huge eyes) has pretty much always been a good egg, she's rather demure, modest, and not attention-whoring. It's Eug (the dark-haired chubby one) that was always susceptible to searching for fame.

Bea should come here and be a personal stylist to the stars like Share and Madonna.

Where is Sarah? Is she Duchess of something or other? Hiding with Andrew in some mansion the queen hides them in? I did read somewhere that although Philip hated Sarah, Elizabeth enjoyed her company and they were spending time together. Maybe Sarah's trying to get something for her daughters - who are fugly but banal enough. Meghan makes everybody look better.

I'm on Team Louise - though I don't know her title. Oh and the brother. Edward's team for the win (as far as being fall-back royals instead of Andrew, Sarah, B&E)

Beatrice and Eugenie need to get over themselves and face facts.

Kate is going to be Queen one day and regardless of what they may think of Kate personally they are obliged to behave with grace and dignity.

[quote] .....personal stylist to the stars like Share and Madonna.

Is "Share" the drag queen version of "Cher" ?

I assume Sarah is still Duchess of York, R99, but she isn't any more popular than her daughters. She looks like she's a 100.

Quick question for the royal experts. Since the Queen is so mad at William for taking 3/4 of the line of succession up for helicopter rides, who exactly is next in line if William and his entire family are killed in a crash? Is it Harry?

Camilla might be a hussy but she manages Charles well and she eased right into the routine. I don’t think I’ve read any malicious gossip about her *since* she married in. She kept her own house and stays there often where her kids and grandkids can visit. Charles is less keen on them coming to Highgrove.

Charles and Camilla's long-running affair is pretty tame stuff nowadays, and since they've now been married for 17 years with nary a scandal, I think they've done enough penance and deserve to enjoy a peaceful dotage.

The younger generation is the one to watch. No doubt they'll keep us aghast and amused for decades to come.

"When you marry your mistress, you create a vacancy." -- Sir Jimmy Goldsmith

Kate Middleton IS Cinderella!

Sarah is no more a Duchess than Mrs Mary Smith, who divorced Mr John Smith, is still married.

She is called “Sarah, Duchess of York” to denote that she was once married to a Duke.

Which is why when Markle calls herself “Meghan, Duchess of Sussex” she doesn’t realise that that means that she’s either widowed or divorced from the Duke of Sussex.

I would say, effectively widowed, at this point.

[quote] I think they've done enough penance and deserve to enjoy a peaceful dotage.

Quite, now that Diana is safely in the grave!

So how much does a working royal get paid for operating the giant scissors at a ribbon cutting ceremony?

How does this compare to what they get paid to pull the chain that opens the little curtains in front of a new plaque?

If you have a parasocial relationship with any of these people, to the remarkable extent of take sides in their family feuds, as you understand them, you really need to re-examine your life. If any half of these people or really all of them fell into a volcano tomorrow, the world would be much the same. I'm not wishing it on them, because I don't care, but people here need help.

R108, you’re slightly mistaken. There are titles and styles.

Titles are somewhat meaningless. Mr and Mrs are titles. So is Dr. Titles merely explain what someone is…so Duchess of York, Duchess of Cambridge, or Duchess of Sussex don’t exist on a hierarchy per se…it just identifies the title holders as duchesses.

What distinguishes Meghan and Kate from Sarah Ferguson is their style: Her Royal Highness. Nobody would ever infer Meghan and Fergie are on equal footing because one is Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Sussex, and the other is Sarah, Duchess of York.

I'm confused about Meghan's HRH style. She was allowed to keep the HRH, but told she must not actually use it, or should not use it? Or did she take it upon herself to stop using the HRH?

R114 It was "understood" that the Sussexes would not use the HRHs and on that basis they were not formally revoked.

But really, what does it mean to "have" a title or "style" that isn't and can't be used? It's not just like a professor saying "you don't have to call me Dr.", ; the title/style is non-functional. This is the royal version of a "if a tree falls in the forest with no one to hear, does it make a sound?"

And different Duchess titles DO exist in an hierarchy of precedence.. For the royal family there are special rules, but otherwise a Duchess from a Dukedom that was created earlier has higher precedence vis-a-vis newer ones. This is even more complicated because it also matters whether the Dukedom was created in the Peerage of Scotland, Ireland, England, Great Britain or the UK, but in any case there is a hierarchy in which Duchesses can be ranked.

Vogue recently had to go back and change an article because it referred to Meghan as “Meghan Markle”. The edited article used her “Duchess” title.

She cares.

I wonder if Harry gets made that people call him “Harry Markle”.

R97, I also get the feeling that each sister has her own personality rather than being a package deal together, i.e. Beatrice seems harmless and possibly even nice, whereas Eugenie seems like a chip-shouldered cunt.

How is everyone forming an opinion on their personalities? Those two are BORING. They don’t do anything except wear ugly clothing and pretend to have jobs. Of late, they’ve been a smidge more interesting because they both married smarmy men, and there’s the specter of tabloid stories of infidelity on the horizon.

Bea married up with that dreamy, creamy Italian Eddie Mozz. , she managed to hook. As a first class grifter, he knows his bread is buttered as long as the RF stays sweet. He has reigned Bea the Beast in. She looks the best she has looked in her whole life. She is also conveying a humble, I"m cooperative aura. If she wants to keep Moz. she needs to keep following his lead. She may not get that paid royal gig, but he can grift off the good association with the RF. If she pisses them off, I think he'll be off as well. Hope she is smarter than she looks.

Huge? She needs to try & make a go in Portugal. She too, like her allies The Markles, is toast in the UK. Her snotty, better than attitude is too similar to Daddy Pedo.

R108, oh, I think she's perfectly aware of that.

"Meghan, Duchess of Sussex" will remain her denomination after the divorce. Which is why she already uses that denomination --- to get people get used to it.

R119 Bea is married to a reasonably wealthy man - I doubt that she’s hoping for the coverage of expenses that comes with a paid royal gig.

Those two bug eye bitches should remember who will be King before very long . If they were smart they would have been endearing themselves to Duchess Catherine all along . Instead they backed the wrong ponies and will see a lifetime in the wilderness . They should learn from their elder Phillips who clearly know how to play nice in the royal sandbox

You sound very well-informed, R122!

Who is “Duchess Catherine”? Who is “elder Phillips”? I wasn’t aware of any Mormons in the BRF but I’ll defer to your depth of knowledge.

Where this “wilderness” to which they’ve been banished? Slough? Scunthorpe? Blackpool? Do let us know!

Frogmore Cottage

Hey Kids, I think you are both lovely young women and I think Charles and William are making a big mistake by sidelining you. I think you could be a real asset to the throne, but ya know what? You’re just not wanted, so screw ‘em. You still have the titles and that’s no small thing. Sign up to be the public face of some high profile charities, do good works. Get paid for your efforts if you need the money. If you aren’t on the sovereign grant, then that’s very fair and reasonable. If you don’t need the cash, then just go out and do it. Be working princesses, show ‘em what you’re made of. BUT, your dads days as a working royal are over for good. He’s had his day and you two deserve your’s. He’s your dad and you love him, keep loving him, but it’s not up to you to help him back to the limelight. You don’t owe him that. I really with you, your husbands and children nothing but the best.

Eugenie has been exiled.

It’s not Elizabeth I and Mary Queen of Scots, R126 - she’s moving to Portugal for her husband’s work.

Pretty pedestrian, really.

Huge is too stupid to know how to hide her feelings, so her own hubby imposed exile is best. He knows enough to keep his head down. Huge not so much. Feel bad with her parents would be a miracle if she wasn't as dumb as she obviously is.

William needs to pull an Anne Boleyn on Kate.

[quote] Bea (the redhead with the huge eyes) has pretty much always been a good egg, she's rather demure, modest, and not attention-whoring. It's Eug (the dark-haired chubby one) that was always susceptible to searching for fame.

I think you have them flipped. The red-haired one is Eugenie. The dark-haired one is Beatrice.

Anyway, I think the sisters are in denial about what the parents have gotten up to (grifting & good friends with Epstein).

That Italian faux prince/count (depends on the translation and his title is real but Italy no longer recognizes it) has really successfully made Bea step up her game. She looks better than she ever has in her life. Maybe they are good for each other.

Are Beatrice's and Eugenie's reputations tainted by their actions and behavior of their parents? Are people holding that stuff against B & E?

Really I always though Bea was the redhead?

Beatrice is the bug-eyed redhead. Eugenie is the one who kind of looks like a dude.

Oh, shit. I got it wrong.

Red Hair: Beatrice.

Dark brown hair: Eugenie.

There is always a career on Netflix for Beatrice & Eugenie.

Beatrice and Eugenie should be senior working royals. They would be good at it. And they are princesses of the blood. Charles is a jerk for excluding them.

Charles married his mistress! Who does that?

R138 Hi Fergs!

Yikes. Kate looks like 60 year old Diana Riggs now! The prissy prinniness William and his haggard WIFE are not beloved. Thank christ the monarchy is over when Liz dies. Tiktok.

R141, zzz ... try harder, Fat Markle fanbitch account no 12839

Aaaaaaaand you're blocked.

^OK Meghan, settle down! You are younger than springtime & beloved by the entire ooniverse.

Why isn't the focus on me?

Eugenie is a Judas, and has been banished to Portugal.

You Kate stans are weird, R145.

Grow up!

^ Says of all people DL's childishly foolish Markle fanbitch.

How sweet.

Eugenie’s husband no longer sells celebrity tequila? Seems he’s selling timeshares in Portugal, and needs to move his wife and children there in order to do so.

I wonder if Eug can still run an art gallery and her abolitionist charity from the sunny land of Portugal. Quite a bit to give up. Perhaps Jack’s job pays a lot, and doesn’t require him to frolic on boats with topless models.

Who knows, really?

Philip and Elizabeth should have stopped at Anne.

Anne should be the next Monarch followed by William. I mean I have no problem with Charles and everything, but I hope he will stay in Anne's good graces through his reign because she's a smart cookie that can be of an informed sounding board to him in years to come.

R103 - yes, if Will and his three children were killed then Harry would be King.

R103 - well, Charles is first in line and then Will and family. Next comes Harry.

The Queen is right - William and his children should NEVER fly on the same helicopter (or even plane, though I realize that's a hassle - but it should be William and George on one flight, Kate, Charlotte and Louis on another - it's not that crazy. The earlier-landing ones can be put in the VIP lounge at the airport with a bodyguard)

Do they have more than one helicopter (in claret with the Royal insignia of course) at their disposal?

[quote]Kate looks like 60 year old Diana Riggs now!

Now that you've spilled it, I guess I'll make it official. Bobby Riggs and I got married in the afterlife.

I think Kate is lovely - but anyway, looks don't matter. Class does. See Elizabeth, Camilla, Anne... and Kate. She's such a keeper and maybe it took a Meghan to make that crystal clear.

R153, surely it is William and George who should be separated?

Or are you HRH Princess Charlotte, hoping for the best?

Well, however they separate them, just do it!

No one would ever allow Harry to become King, no matter who died. You can bet on that.

Sorry Bea and Eugenie but your dad is a scumbag and your mom is an enabler.

R159 But if they found a way to skip Harry, they'd either be stuck with Archie (then Lilibet) or they'd have to disqualify the first rightful line-of-succession throne keepers who have a black grandmother. And who haven't personally done anything wrong (assuming that's true at that point.)

And even if they, say, said nope, don't want it... Then who? Andrew?!? Next are Beatrice and Eugenie. A very long way to Edward, who I guess would get the most acceptance (beyond the Cambridges)

Oh I forgot Beatrice and Eugenie's kids - Sienna Elizabeth who was supposed to be Lily but somehow that got changed.... and, is there another one?

Eugenie has a son named August.

You can bet your house neither Harry nor his kids would be considered for even a minute. It would NEVER happen.

At the risk of siding with the deranged Kate fanatics, I would argue the monarchy would collapse before Harry became king (assuming, god forbid anything happened to the Cambridges). He already failed the ultimate test of worthiness by deciding to no longer be a working royal…and then he doubled down by leaving England.

I honestly believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that William will be the last British monarch. In his lifetime the UK will lose Scotland and possibly Northern Ireland. Also, while there’s personal affection for The Queen, who burnished her image as being selflessly devoted to her country as a teenager (during WW2), that luxury doesn’t extend to her successor or his children.

Actually, the more I think about, Charles will likely work with Parliament to wind down the institution in a way that ensures the Windsor-Mountbattens retain their income-generating properties (while forfeiting Buckingham Palace, Windsor Castle and the other London propertie, as well as the Crown Jewels and anything else of historical relevance to the UK).

R165, I also think that William will be the last British monarch, though I would anticipate a different set of causes. For example, there's no reason why William couldn't remain King of England (and Wales, which was part of the Kingdom of England before Kingdom of GB was formed) after NI and Scotland leaving.

A key reason, though, for the dissolution of the monarchy will be the changing demographics of Britain, which will be minority-white before 2066 (per Prof. David Coleman of Oxford). The lily-white Cambridges simply will not be enough for people who insist that authority figures must "look like me".

[quote]A key reason, though, for the dissolution of the monarchy will be the changing demographics of Britain, which will be minority-white before 2066 (per Prof. David Coleman of Oxford). The lily-white Cambridges simply will not be enough for people who insist that authority figures must "look like me".

Nonsense.

R166 is a loon.

Where's the nonsense, R167? Or the lunacy, R168? You obviously think that I have some kind of agenda but watch this clip from the BBC and you will see that non-white people themselves admit that they do not identify with white Britons.

If Scotland votes for independence from the UK (which will not happen until Elizabeth II dies), the reigning monarch of the remaining United Kingdom would still be the reigning monarch of Scotland as well. As the proper descendant of the Stuart line that originated in Scotland, Charles (or William) would be the King of Scotland.

Scotland would have to have a separate vote to rid themselves of a sovereign, which they might not vote for, even if they did gain independence from the UK.

[quote]But for some young players the lack of diversity in the England squad is a problem to be worked on, and one the team has recognised.

Is this a case of discrimination, or a case of millennials preferring to whinge than to be good enough? Because I'm trying to remember when I last saw the headline FOOTBALL CLUB TURNS AWAY STAR PLAYERS WHO COULD HELP THEM WIN.*

*Excluding, of course, in the US Deep South.

Doesn't the UK have a sizable population from it's Commonwealth countries (or former ones) in the Caribbean, like Jamaica, Virgin Islands, Turks and Caicos, etc. (British West Indies)

I thought they had generous offers for those people to relocate to the UK if they wanted to? Or at least they used to. But I don't know the percentage of Britain that's of African ancestry. In the US, it's about 13% and they are quite dominant in sports - though I'm not as sure about soccer, but soccer here is nothing compared to the UK where's it's the number one sport I think.

Well, sorry for the ramble, but you would think their teams might reflect their colonial past in the Caribbeans (and Africa, for that matter)

* dammit. First line "it's" should be "its"

Sometimes I hate English.

The Royal family are not racists. Period.

How does someone "struggle to remain cordial?" I find it easy to remain cordial to someone I don't like. In fact that's actually how to deal with it. You just "close off" and be cordial rather than engage or be interested or friendly. Is it really a "struggle" for them to remain cordial? Otherwise are they about to take a swing at each other?

Has Eug moved to Portugal yet? Perhaps she can stay at her mom’s new house when she comes to visit.

How lovely that both the parents of Bea and Genie are recognized International Pervs.

They should be lucky that their father's internal banishment does not extend to them. Thankless Royal Twats.

Pleaaaaaaase --- as if fucking InStyle knows anything . . .

R172 there was massive immigration from the West Indies to Britain after WWII. They were known as the Windrush generation, Windrush being one of the ships they came over on. The percentage of black Brits is only 3% so they are vastly overrepresented in TV shows, etc. Good for them. 7% of Britons are Asian.

The Scottish National Party was anti-monarchy, but backed off for voting-getting reasons. I still think they really want to get rid of it, and once the Queen is gone it'd be easier. Yes, the British Monarch COULD still be Queen/King of an independent Scotland. She's the Queen of Canada and (for now) Australia, after all. Lots of precedent. But Scottish nationalism is defined against Englishness in a way that Canadian and New Zealand and Australian nationalism is not and I think people will increasingly find it weird to have a head of state who only lives there in the summer, if Charles even keeps up the Balmoral tradition. So I am not sure about the monarchy long-term in an independent Scotland. Will and Kate went to University there, so that helps, I guess.

Fergie just bought a $7 million townhouse in Belgravia (which is exceptionally cheap for Belgravia) from the Duke of Westminster. I suppose it's a leasehold though. She supposedly bought them as a present for the ugly stepsisters. Problem is where did she get the money from? She and her idiot ex still haven't paid off the Swiss chalet they bought, they ripped off the woman who sold it to them and she's furious.

Also it appears Virginia Giuffre only got about $4 million not the $15 million she claimed.