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Men who know classic literature

What do you think of men who know classic literature? Do you find it attractive or pretentious? Boring?

A friend of mine reads almost nothing but classic literature. His apartment is full of classic books. Books are everywhere

His ideal Saturday night is reading a classic, listening to classical music, and drinking a whiskey. The only shows/movies he watches are based on these classic novels. He does love NFL and his football team.

I find it attractive, but I find his lifestyle a little antiquated, out of touch, and a little boring.

by Anonymousreply 106July 23, 2023 2:30 AM

He's a bit of an elitist.

by Anonymousreply 1July 24, 2022 4:43 PM

I wish I personally had been interested when I was at school in England. Or even now. But I can't keep my eyes open.

by Anonymousreply 2July 24, 2022 4:43 PM

R2 Why don't you like it now?

by Anonymousreply 3July 24, 2022 5:02 PM

No one likes classic literature?

by Anonymousreply 4July 24, 2022 6:20 PM

I like modern classics.

by Anonymousreply 5July 24, 2022 6:25 PM

Not boring at all. At least there was action in old time classics. Nowadays it is easy to read a book where nothing happens at all.

by Anonymousreply 6July 24, 2022 6:30 PM

R6 what are you talking about?

R5 what is considered a modern classic? What is the cut off? 1990?

by Anonymousreply 7July 24, 2022 6:32 PM

I’d much rather that than someone who doesn’t read and loves Marvel movies

by Anonymousreply 8July 24, 2022 6:34 PM

R7, Post-WWI; 1920s and after.

by Anonymousreply 9July 24, 2022 6:34 PM

Not so bad as long as he follows what's going on in the world.

by Anonymousreply 10July 24, 2022 6:42 PM

R10 he reads WSJ every morning.

by Anonymousreply 11July 24, 2022 6:43 PM

The Wall Street Journal? Guess he's into Trumpster propaganda

by Anonymousreply 12July 24, 2022 6:43 PM

R12 He's a HW Bush, Baker, Powell, Gates type of Republican. He is family friends with Boyden Gray.

by Anonymousreply 13July 24, 2022 6:44 PM

You mean like Gordon Merrick?

by Anonymousreply 14July 24, 2022 6:46 PM

Your friend sounds extremely cool, OP, and you sound very lucky to have him.

I can only imagine how great it would be to have a friend to turn to who wasn't being ginned up by every daily media-puppeteer fury generator, who was immune to the woke ideology nonsense, with whom one could merely have a conversation about life, ideas and history. Sounds like heaven.

If you don't want him I'll gladly take him.

by Anonymousreply 15July 24, 2022 6:48 PM

How dare he read classic literature! Why can't he be more like you, OP?

by Anonymousreply 16July 24, 2022 6:48 PM

^ I don't think OP deserves your vitriol, R16. Go lie down, honey.

by Anonymousreply 17July 24, 2022 6:52 PM

R15 Do you want his info? I can set it up

by Anonymousreply 18July 24, 2022 6:53 PM

Thank you, r18. I'd love that, but I'm in Britain.

by Anonymousreply 19July 24, 2022 6:58 PM

I'm take his numba. I know what he wants he's tried of reading.

by Anonymousreply 20July 24, 2022 7:09 PM

Novels lead to moral corruption.

by Anonymousreply 21July 24, 2022 7:14 PM

What's the problem? Classic literature covers an enormous scope that expands as you go deeper. It's usually fundamental in some sense and time tested in that you can assume that, while the style or subject matter might be dated, that there are compelling reasons or connections to be made by doing so.

You almost imply that it might be better were he to prefer fiction and biography from the NYTimes bestseller lists, follow trends in genres of popular music. If someone likes that, fine, but keeping up with fashion in writing and what's hot in popular music or popular culture seems more the pursuit of cool than the state of it. Old fashioned tastes aren't always bad. Reading classic literature isn't at the same end of the scale as collecting match-boxes, or knitting granny afghans, trainspotting, or repairing cane seated chairs.

by Anonymousreply 22July 24, 2022 7:18 PM

I'm a bookworm. OP, I can understand your friend. Reading takes you into another world. I love classical literature (Dickens, Tolstoy, Austen, and most 19th c. authors). I love contemporary novels. I love Shakespeare. I love to read mysteries with gay men as the protagonists (a lot written by women).

And I love to read erotic, gay romances. And novels that explore gay kinky stuff (you can find ones that are quite good)

Just love to read

by Anonymousreply 23July 24, 2022 7:20 PM

R20 how can I get you his number?

by Anonymousreply 24July 24, 2022 8:04 PM

What do you mean by classic literature? Give me some titles OP?

by Anonymousreply 25July 24, 2022 8:06 PM

R25 Dickens, Austen, Tolstoy, Forster, Wharton, etc.

by Anonymousreply 26July 24, 2022 8:08 PM

OP, cultured people do not bore ignorant, less-educated, boorish or philistinic acquaintances with their love of engagement in literature and other art.

If the choice were your company or a comic book, would it make you feel better when he chooses the latter?

We know not, just as we know that by "classic literature" you do not mean Sophocles.

by Anonymousreply 27July 24, 2022 8:13 PM

R27 he lives in a different century. Sometimes he reads long biographies of politicians or actors

by Anonymousreply 28July 24, 2022 8:35 PM

He sounds dreary.

by Anonymousreply 29July 24, 2022 8:35 PM

OP, it sounds like this bothers you and makes you feel insecure.

You need to think about why this is. This is absolutely not HIS problem; this is YOUR problem.

by Anonymousreply 30July 24, 2022 8:42 PM

Classic literature? Like all seven Harry Potter books?

by Anonymousreply 31July 24, 2022 8:43 PM

Is your pretentious friend hot? Big dick? I could get past the love of literature.

by Anonymousreply 32July 24, 2022 8:43 PM

[quote]Is your pretentious friend hot? Big dick? I could get past the love of literature.

Doubt it.

by Anonymousreply 33July 24, 2022 8:44 PM

I understand your friend. I love Patterson, Rowling, Meyer and other classic writers! 💕

by Anonymousreply 34July 24, 2022 8:49 PM

R32 He's from old money. Went to Dartmouth and William & Mary.

by Anonymousreply 35July 25, 2022 2:00 AM

Astor 400 old money?

by Anonymousreply 36July 25, 2022 2:13 AM

Is this a stealth brag about your classy friend?

by Anonymousreply 37July 25, 2022 2:21 AM

Why do I feel like OP’s friend is also a total freak behind closed doors - e.g., scat and piss play etc

by Anonymousreply 38July 25, 2022 2:23 AM

R37 Nope. I can set your old ass up with him though lol

R38 and he is probably into fisting. Who knows.

by Anonymousreply 39July 25, 2022 3:44 AM

I've read Sophocles. Trash!

by Anonymousreply 40July 25, 2022 3:53 AM

Is his range of conversation and interest really narrow (only classic literature & one NFL team)? I think it would be boring to be with someone who was only interested in one thing, no matter what that one thing was.

by Anonymousreply 41July 25, 2022 4:07 AM

Well it can be very enjoyable but if that is truly all they read then they are just living in the past. That could be a red flag.

by Anonymousreply 42July 25, 2022 4:29 AM

[quote]novels that explore gay kinky stuff

R23 BonniePrinceCharlie, can you recommend a few?

by Anonymousreply 43July 25, 2022 4:42 AM

Sigh. My man has a library of cliff notes from his college days, hails from old Monopoly money and would just as soon fuck for three hours than waste his time getting boozy watching the NFL. He had the good sense to whisk me away from the USA following Bush v Gore. I think I’ll keep him.

by Anonymousreply 44July 25, 2022 4:46 AM

Your man is a dolt R44

by Anonymousreply 45July 25, 2022 4:58 AM

I always believe people who say they only "read the classics" or "only watch foreign films", etc. are all lying and actually have one or more very lowbrow hobbies or interests that they hide to make themselves seem better than they are. It usually seems to be people who have always thought they needed to prove their intelligence because their parents called them stupid or something like that.

by Anonymousreply 46July 25, 2022 4:59 AM

Ask him what he thinks about the new PERSUASION adaptation. Critics and fans are unanimous in their hatred of it.

by Anonymousreply 47July 25, 2022 5:24 AM

At the fish-free college prep Catholic high school we graduated from we read. Caesar and Virgil in Latin

by Anonymousreply 48July 25, 2022 5:30 AM

Too bad they didn't teach you how to proofread and punctuate, Erna.

by Anonymousreply 49July 25, 2022 5:34 AM

Depends on how big his dick is.

by Anonymousreply 50July 25, 2022 5:44 AM

Blame auto correct for that misplaced period r4.

by Anonymousreply 51July 25, 2022 6:14 AM

Boring, conventional, judgmental. No wonder he's a conservative.

by Anonymousreply 52July 25, 2022 6:45 AM

What about the missing comma, Erna? Was that also autocorrect?

by Anonymousreply 53July 25, 2022 6:54 AM

r47 The Spectator review called for everyone involved in the production to be jailed!

I think they were joking, but in a country where people are jailed for misgendering, one can never be too certain....

by Anonymousreply 54July 25, 2022 6:57 AM

[quote]drinking a whiskey

Drinking whiskey, not a whiskey, you pretentious slob.

by Anonymousreply 55July 25, 2022 7:04 AM

Intellect is very sexy, I like a cute or unassuming good looking nerd or geek, it's Awesome to see them get their freak on.

by Anonymousreply 56July 25, 2022 7:05 AM

[quote]I love to read mysteries with gay men as the protagonists (a lot written by women).

Titles please!

by Anonymousreply 57July 25, 2022 7:07 AM

I read R57 as "Titties please" and was very confused!

by Anonymousreply 58July 25, 2022 7:15 AM

If he likes opera as well, OP, your friend is my kind of guy.

by Anonymousreply 59July 25, 2022 8:00 AM

Your friend sounds wonderful, OP.

Hard to find people who read, these days.

by Anonymousreply 60July 25, 2022 8:40 AM

It's hot! Intelligence and a love of the classics are both positive qualities.

by Anonymousreply 61July 25, 2022 9:43 AM

[quote]I love to read mysteries with gay men as the protagonists (a lot written by women).

[quote]Titles please!

R57, you might enjoy the Dave Brandstetter series, written by Joseph Hansen. And Michael Nava has the Henry Rios series.

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by Anonymousreply 62July 25, 2022 1:36 PM

I'll give it a try, R62

by Anonymousreply 63July 25, 2022 2:19 PM

I enjoyed reading "Past Imperfect" by Joan Collins.

by Anonymousreply 64July 25, 2022 2:26 PM

My favorite period of literature would be I guess post-classic, 1920s-1960s.

by Anonymousreply 65July 25, 2022 2:29 PM

R57, Sorry...just saw this.

I second the authors that R62 mentioned.I just finished the last "Henry Rios" novels by Michael Nava. They re a true portrayal of gay life from the 1970s to the 1990s from the perspective of a Chicano protagonist who is a lawyer in California. Well-written. Hansen too is a good writer.

Greg Herren has two good series of mysteries centered around New Orleans. One series involves Chanse MacLeod, who is a PI. The other centers around Scotty Bradley. Both are good romps, but I prefer the MacLeod series.

AJ Rose...The Power Exchange series...explores a BDSM relationship and are good mysteries.

Josh Lanyon

Gregory Ashe...series of novels centered around Somerset and Hazard

Neil Plakcy...series based on a gay Hawaiian, police detective. His "Angus Green" series is good too.

Marshall Thornton...Boystown series

Steve Neil Johnson..."LA After Midnight" series

Adam Carpenter...Jimmy McSwain series

Jeffrey Round

Diana Galbadon...Lord John series. She takes a minor character from her Outlander books and weaves mystery plots that explore 18th century "gay" life. It's good on the historical score.

Check out Timothy James Beck. The author has written a series of novels about love, friendship, family and mre. Good beach read.

by Anonymousreply 66July 25, 2022 3:04 PM

He is really into classical music, opera, Shakespeare, has a Brit Box subscription, a Met Opera on Demand subscription, and a WSJ subscription.

He is also a big runner and pretty healthy diet. He has a bachelors, MBA, and JD.

by Anonymousreply 67July 25, 2022 5:59 PM

Does he have a sense of humor at least?

by Anonymousreply 68July 25, 2022 6:23 PM

Your friend sounds like a fascinating and well-rounded person, OP. I would love to know him.

by Anonymousreply 69July 25, 2022 6:28 PM

R68 He does.

R69 I think he is, just a little boring to me

by Anonymousreply 70July 25, 2022 6:52 PM

I want his number!! age? location?!

by Anonymousreply 71July 25, 2022 6:59 PM

R71 How can I give it to you? I can give you his email maybe?

He's late 20's and lives in a big city in the south.

by Anonymousreply 72July 25, 2022 7:13 PM

Is he fat? If hes not fat ill bite.

by Anonymousreply 73July 25, 2022 7:20 PM

R73 No, he runs like five miles every day

by Anonymousreply 74July 25, 2022 7:25 PM

He sounds like a keeper, I hope he is a fan of the opera

by Anonymousreply 75July 25, 2022 7:30 PM

Better to read the classics than the endless piles of trash that people refer to as modern "literature".

by Anonymousreply 76July 25, 2022 7:34 PM

I know he has two emails. One that I have is johnthor2020@aol.com

He gave it to me for something, said it is his junk mail. John isn't his name though lol

by Anonymousreply 77July 25, 2022 7:40 PM

R77 Im nervous, what if he hates ugly people!

by Anonymousreply 78July 25, 2022 7:51 PM

All that and he's in his late twenties? I'm ovulating, to quote Erna.

by Anonymousreply 79July 25, 2022 7:56 PM

Erna?

by Anonymousreply 80July 25, 2022 8:01 PM

Isn't that how "she" indicates that she's attracted to a man?

Or, if you're asking who she is, then all I will say is that Erna is a very bizarre and unpopular troll who has existed on DL over the years.

by Anonymousreply 81July 25, 2022 8:04 PM

R78 probably lol did you email him?

by Anonymousreply 82July 25, 2022 8:08 PM

That's a perfect description of me....classic literature, music, museum exhibits.

by Anonymousreply 83July 25, 2022 8:11 PM

I sure hope that there is a market for people with such interests, OP. There isn't where I live. I genuinely love classic literature and art, classical music and opera, classical architecture; I love TV shows like Poirot, Midsommer Murders and Murder, She Wrote. And I can't find a single guy with similar interests or who will at least be OK with all that. Oh, I'm a big sports nut too.

by Anonymousreply 84July 25, 2022 8:11 PM

How long has his couple?

by Anonymousreply 85July 25, 2022 10:49 PM

Sorry, what I meant to ask, was, how long has he had his couple? You know, servants. Maid and butler, that sort of thing.

by Anonymousreply 86July 25, 2022 10:51 PM

Does he like blue?

by Anonymousreply 87July 26, 2022 1:56 AM

He uses AOL? Pass.

by Anonymousreply 88July 26, 2022 2:48 AM

What is the purpose of this thread?

by Anonymousreply 89July 27, 2022 1:11 AM

R89, to discuss men who read classic literature?

by Anonymousreply 90July 27, 2022 6:23 PM

R90 obviously reads classic literature.

by Anonymousreply 91August 2, 2022 6:10 AM

r13

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by Anonymousreply 92August 2, 2022 6:17 AM

But what does he do in bed?

by Anonymousreply 93August 2, 2022 6:46 AM

Haha. A guy in his late 20s using AOL.

Well done. OP. You baited the hook quite well.

by Anonymousreply 94August 2, 2022 7:32 AM

OP here. My friend is still single. lol

by Anonymousreply 95July 22, 2023 9:32 PM

[quote] lol

LoL! :)

by Anonymousreply 96July 22, 2023 9:34 PM

Out of touch with what and in what way OP. Any more out of touch than the man who was leaning on a rack of clothing gabbing on his phone the entire time I was shopping in the men's department at Macys? or the people who sit on a piece of equipment at the gym looking at their phones for 20 minutes or more?

by Anonymousreply 97July 22, 2023 9:49 PM

Does he wear a bow tie? Everything about him sounds like he wears a bow tie to work.

I read a lot of classic literature too (and I read the WSJ, just not the stupid editorials), but I would rather listen to techno and house than boring opera. It's not that unusual.

by Anonymousreply 98July 22, 2023 11:38 PM

R98 Yeah, I have seen him wear a bow tie. He also has a few three piece suits.

by Anonymousreply 99July 22, 2023 11:43 PM

[quote]I find it attractive, but I find his lifestyle a little antiquated, out of touch, and a little boring.

Your judgment defines [italic]you[/italic] much more than it defines him.

by Anonymousreply 100July 23, 2023 12:12 AM

I enjoy Jane Austen, whose books are still actually funny. You can sense her personality in them. I also enjoy Trollope, who has such great knowledge of human nature. His reputation suffered when his diaries/biography made it clear that he wrote for money rather than as an artistic endeavour, but his books are both literature and fun.

Rather unfairly, Dickens was not criticised for writing for commercial success, even though he obviously spins some stories out to the correct length and introduces entirely ludicrous cliff-hangers. I’ve never read a Dickens novel without at least once wanting to hurl it violently into a bin. GET TO THE DAMN POINT!!

I’ve never really enjoyed any Henry James, except for Washington Square, which is a tender, brutal masterpiece.

by Anonymousreply 101July 23, 2023 12:36 AM

Why is this any of your business, OP.

Who are you, Glady Kravitz Jr.?

by Anonymousreply 102July 23, 2023 1:12 AM

I admire the guy. I should be more interested, having majored in the subject, but....meh.

But if I HAD to pick one favorite "Classics" author, I suppose it would be Chaucer. I know; not a novelist. Oh, well.

by Anonymousreply 103July 23, 2023 1:24 AM

Why, financially rewarding!

by Anonymousreply 104July 23, 2023 2:03 AM

I reached out to him tonight after these posts. He went on a date with an internal specialist. He said it went well.

My friend is a lawyer.

by Anonymousreply 105July 23, 2023 2:09 AM

Maybe you should suggest he fuck a hardback classic book

by Anonymousreply 106July 23, 2023 2:30 AM
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