Polio WON"T be IGNORED, This time in NY

Thanks, anti-vaxxers!!!!

I've had THREE friends who were children in the 50s who had it. One is severely injured with a very curved spine.

Ugh

Next up, people will be told that the US is low on polio vaccines. Seriously, I will bet the fucking farm I don't have that we will be hearing an announcement soon. Or maybe not all that soon considering how foot draggy things have been with getting the monkeypox vaccine rolled out.

R1 pretty much sums it up!

There's a lot of anti-vaxxers in the NY area a lot of it religiously motivated. Brooklyn had a measles outbreak.

I'm old enough to remember braces on little kids and iron lungs. Only idiots would deny/refuse a polio vaccine ☹️

They’re not disclosing anything about the person, likely a religious exemption and they’re afraid people will generalize and retaliate against the race/religion.

Dust off the ugly polio shoes boys.

There has to be a warehouse full of old iron lungs somewhere

Let the anti-vaxxers get it. They deserve it.

how do you know if you were vaxxed for this?

R12, I don’t think they let kids go to school without this vaccine.

Yeah, can't go to school without this one. We're all vaxxed against this, it's a horrific disease, so much worse than measles. The person in OP's story is probably Amish or something.

R14, he’s a Hasidic Jew.

Intelligent people who believe the scientific and medical data will come out of this alive.

This is nature’s way of enacting survival of the fittest. And guess what? 99% of the time, that translates into being vaccinated against MANY things.

We don’t need stupid or defiantly ignorant people populating the globe within the next 200 years. There are too many climate change variables that will have to take these people out, because the truth is now what it has ALWAYS been:

Brains win over braun.

It’s that simple. Vaxx your children, your pets and yourselves. Educate them based on FACTS and not some ancient religion concocted via gibberish. You do this, and your progeny and legacy will survive if survival is an option.

That’s how this works. Always has and always will.

[quote]Brains win over braun.

Don't rub it in!

r15 beat me to it. The Hasidics are taking over Rockland County.

The last two surviving iron-lung users in the US have outlived the availability of replacement parts and accessories for their machines.

Yes, must be Hassids. They also refused Covid vaccines. The last Measles outbreak started there too.

And now polio

Fuck the antivaxxers! They will kill us all.

^ With any luck, just themselves, as God intended

It's not different from Covid. The unvaccinated will serve as petri dishes for mutations and variations that could potentially break through our existing vaccines. They will not be the only ones to suffer.

Um... you guys. This particular case of polio, like the recent case in London and most of the ones in the developing world... Is vaccine derived polio. Caused by the oral live attenuated vaccine used in Africa.

According to had WHO cheap vaccines are doing more to keep polio alive and kicking than antivaxxers.

It's becoming more common through more vaccine drives in poor countries.

....

According to both the Washington Post and NY Times today, this polio patient, who is now partially paralyzed, was actually NOT vaccinated himself. He likely got it out of the country from someone who had recently received the live virus vaccine. The live virus vaccine is no longer used in the US.

Was it a gay man, just back from a 'sex tourism' trip to Africa?

i read that the man got it in poland. let me find the article

New details emerge in first known US polio case since 2013

The first known US case of polio in nearly a decade was contracted by an unvaccinated 20-year-old man in Rockland County who had recently traveled to Poland and Hungary, health officials said.

The man was hospitalized in June and initially diagnosed with acute flaccid myelitis, a spinal cord condition that causes paralysis and muscle weakness, a health official not authorized to speak told the Washington Post.

Doctors soon found a type of polio that’s generally transmitted abroad and the patient was discharged to his parents’ home, where he’s been living with his wife, according to the outlet.

The man, who sources told The Post was linked to the local Orthodox Jewish community, is not contagious, the state Health Department said in an alert Thursday.

There have been no reported polio cases in Hungary or Poland in recent years, though nearby Ukraine — which residents are fleeing amid the Russian invasion — has reported at least 19 cases since January, according to Science Daily.

Ukraine had a polio outbreak in 2015 and two people came down with the viral disease last year, including a 17-month-old girl who suffered paralysis, according to the World Health Organization.

The Rockland County case is the first recorded in the US since 2013.

The highly effective, CDC-approved vaccine against the virus, which is required for schoolchildren in New York state, all but eradicated the disease in the US in the 1970s.

That's odd because the local CBS news here in NYC reported today the man has never been outside the country.

Then his Muslim friend must have brought it to him, a gift from Afghanistan.

R25, you are the definition of a little knowledge being dangerous. It is not the fact that the vaccine exists that is causing these outbreaks. It is that there was a pause in 2020 in vaccine administration due to Covid. The lessening of the number getting vaccinated is the problem, not the vaccine itself. Like any vaccine, there must be a community uptake threshold met before it can work at the community level. It is the anti-vaxxers who are causing the problem, as it always is.

New York adult diagnosed with polio, first US case in nearly a decade

CNN —

A person from Rockland County, New York, has been diagnosed with polio, the first case identified in the United States in nearly a decade.

The unvaccinated young adult began experiencing weakness and paralysis about a month ago, county Health Commissioner Dr. Patricia Schnabel Ruppert said Thursday.

The case comes nearly a month after the UK Health Security Agency warned that it had detected poliovirus in its surveillance of London sewage samples, indicating that there had been some spread between closely linked individuals in North and East London, although no cases had been identified there.

Polio is an infection caused by the poliovirus. About 1 in 4 infected people have flu-like symptoms including sore throat, fever, tiredness, nausea, headache and stomach pain. As many as 1 in 200 will develop more serious symptoms that include tingling and numbness in the legs, an infection of the brain or spinal cord, and paralysis, according to the US Centers for the Disease control and Prevention.

There is no cure for polio. Treatment to address symptoms may include medication to relax muscles and heat and physical therapy to stimulate muscles. However, any paralysis caused by polio is permanent.

“This patient did present with weakness and paralysis,” Schnabel Ruppert said.

This is the first polio case diagnosed in the United States since 2013, according to the New York Department of Health.

State and county health officials are advising health-care providers to stay vigilant for additional cases, and they are advising county residents to get vaccinated for polio.

“The risk to an unvaccinated community member from this event is still being determined,” Ruppert Schnabel said. “We strongly advise anyone who’s unvaccinated to get vaccinated.”

Polio vaccine is part of the CDC’s standard immunization schedule and is required for school attendance. People who are vaccinated are not expected to be at risk.

The New York case was identified as a revertant polio Sabin type 2 virus, indicating that it was derived from someone who received the oral polio vaccine, which contains a live but weakened form of the polio virus.

Officials say this suggests that the virus originated outside the US, where the oral vaccine is still administered, but they are investigating the origins of this particular case.

Health officials said Thursday that the person had not traveled outside the US before or after they were diagnosed.

Typically, people who catch polio can spread it to others for about two weeks. Officials said the individual is not expected to be contagious right now because they are past that window of time and have normal immune function. But others may have been exposed before the case was diagnosed.

The oral polio vaccine is no longer authorized for use in this country. In the US, only the inactivated polio vaccine has been given since 2000.

Health officials think the strain of the virus the individual contracted originated through shedding from the orgal vaccine. A person cannot get polio from the vaccine itself, but in recent years, cases of polio linked to shedding have arisen in communities that have low vaccination rates.

When this weakened strain of the virus circulates in under-immunized populations – typically in areas with poor sanitary conditions – the virus can acquire mutations and revert to a form that causes paralysis. These vaccine-derived viruses are different from wild polioviruses, which now circulate only in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

County health officials declined to give personal details about the case, but The New York Times reported that the patient is a man from the Orthodox Jewish community, citing unnamed local elected officials. Community newspaper New York Jewish Week also quoted multiple sources saying the same thing.

Rockland County is home to an ultra-Orthodox Jewish community in which vaccination rates have historically been very low. In 2018 and 2019, Rockland County was the epicenter of a major measles outbreak that continued for nearly a year and sickened 312 people. County health officials reported at the time that only 8% of cases had been vaccinated against measles, mumps and rubella before the outbreak began.

“Based on what we know about this case, and polio in general, the Department of Health strongly recommends that unvaccinated individuals get vaccinated or boosted with the FDA-approved IPV polio vaccine as soon as possible,” State Health Commissioner Mary T. Bassett said in a statement Thursday. “The polio vaccine is safe and effective, protecting against this potentially debilitating disease, and it has been part of the backbone of required, routine childhood immunizations recommended by health officials and public health agencies nationwide.”

Polio cases were once common in the United States and around the world. During one of the most severe outbreaks in 1952, the virus infected 58,000 people in the US, paralyzed more than 21,000 and killed more than 3,100. However, vaccination campaigns cut cases dramatically. The last naturally occurring case of polio in the US was in 1979.

TODAY: New York State Health Department is urging all New Yorkers, including kids, to get vaccinated against polio right away if they have not been already.

Following the case in Rockland County, polio virus was found in wastewater samples from early June, health dpt says.

I never thought end of days was a) real or b) going to be so fast.

so people are going to get 4 vaxes for covid and counting, because they're discovering it wears off, one for monkey pox and now one for polio.

Can you get it from dancing in the woods?

Only if you're not on call.

jklafs;

Covfefe.

There are new concerns about the potential spread of polio in New York, with the state health commissioner saying there could be “hundreds” of people infected as new evidence shows the virus has been found in samples from multiple counties.

“Based on earlier polio outbreaks, New Yorkers should know that for every one case of paralytic polio observed, there may be hundreds of other people infected,” New York State Health Commissioner Dr. Mary Bassett said.

“Coupled with the latest wastewater findings, the Department is treating the single case of polio as just the tip of the iceberg of much greater potential spread.”

THE FOUR HORSEMEN RIDE

This is UPSTATE New York, aka NYS. Not New York, aka NYC.

I wouldn’t call Rockland County upstate. It’s a NYC suburb.

Rockland is not New York, R46. it's New York State, my point.

Rockland is a COUNTY 40 miles northeast of New York City.

^ Northwest. I'm dyslexic.

And, r48???? Still not considered upstate NY. It’s a suburb of NYC.

Polio is nothing more than a bad cold.

I had two older relatives --now dead--who had "just a touch" of polio (as my nan used to say). "Just a touch" ended up causing them both life-long disabilities and suffering.

I'm starting to think these antivaxx morons want a society of disabled people for attention whoring GoFundMe campaigns and Instagram/TikTok merching/influencing. Munchausen by Proxy, on a mass scale. Because they cannot be THAT stupid, to think that their little vials of oils and vitamins that don't even stop you from catching the flu or a cold will save a person from stuff like this.

GOD will save then r52

I’m touching myself with glee at the thought of all the pious morons in iron lungs.

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Upstate NY? Rockland County? Anti vaxxers? Surely nom not the only one in NYC who immediately thought Kiryas Joel? Wasn’t it their brethren that were responsible for the measles outbreak, and for breaking every single Covid rule? 😤

OP- You make Polio sound like Alex Forrest in FATAL ATTRACTION

Polio is ‘likely’ present and spreading in NYC, health officials warn

Health officials say the poliovirus is “likely” spreading in the five boroughs after traces were found in city wastewater.

“The risk to New Yorkers is real but the defense is so simple – get vaccinated against polio,” said New York City Health Commissioner Dr. Ashwin Vasan said in a press release Friday.

The virus has also been detected in Orange and Rockland counties north of New York City in recent weeks.

A Rockland man, who was unvaccinated, experienced paralysis after catching the first known case of the disease in the United States since 2013.

“For every one case of paralytic polio identified, hundreds more may be undetected,” state Health Commissioner Dr. Mary Bassett said in the press release.

The disease was largely eliminated worldwide after an oral vaccine became widely available in the 1960s, but the super-contagious virus has survived in certain pockets of the world.

A total of 86.2% of children ages six months to five years have gotten vaccinated for the disease, according to city health stats that show Williamsburg, Battery Park City and parts of Bed-Stuy as the only areas of the city with rates below 60%.

“The detection of poliovirus in wastewater samples in New York City is alarming, but not surprising. Already, the State Health Department – working with local and federal partners – is responding urgently, continuing case investigation and aggressively assessing spread,” Bassett said in the press release.

— Additional reporting by Nolan Hicks.

Why the flying fuck are people still getting the oral vaccine in this day and age? It should be banned. Imagine how many kids are going to be paralyzed by this outdated bullshit.

Lol. This planet is really done with us, isn’t it? Earth has just fucking had it with humans.

I'm with R44. Never ending viruses, famines, heat waves, fires, floods in Las Vegas, of all places. Its end of days

New York - the Cursed City. Now on Netflix.

Since most of us are vaccinated against polio, we should be fine.

The anti-vaxxed however will not be

R52 the strains in London znd NY are caused by faulty vaccines

DataLoungers are such dinosaurs! A reference to an ancient Paul Simon record? Really? Me and Polio Down at the Schoolyard?

Is it spread by horses?

i don't remember if I'm vaxxed for this! is there a way to find out?

R66, if you are old enough to be posting on DL, you were vaccinated. Routine vaccination of children for polio started tapering off in 2000.

R24 the "educated" left is sounding just as unhinged as the anti-vaxxers.

Just what we need, a mutant strain of Polio. Polio lives forever and mutants rapidly. These low IQ anti-vaxxers are going to kill us all.

Most in the US are vaccinated due to requirements to attend public school - even after 2000, the non-live version of the vaccine continued to be used and is still used on kids today. But the chances of severe illness are actually higher in adults exposed for the first time than they are for babies/kids, so anyone who was unvaccinated is at higher risk for paralysis.

Unfortunately, children DON’T have to be vaccinated to go to NYC public schools. There’s a religious exemption.

I know of ONE person who didn’t vaccinate their kid and was not a Hasid. She was Jewish, but non-practicing. She was basically a contrarian hippie type who would go on for hours about chem trails and fluoride in the drinking water and 5G pollution and things like that.

This guy is still practicing. I don’t know if he still does this.

Also, he’s family, and I wonder if the “play it straight” was an inside joke.

Selfish religious freaks + "The gov'r'ment can't tell me what to do!" rednecks + Free spirit wealthy housewives who "just have questions" = POLIO!

I think religious freedom needs to be revoked. It should be restated as "freedom from religion." Because these religious freedom wackos just want to oppress us with their religious beliefs. Since every religion thinks it's the only right way.

NYC is vaxxing kids over a certain age...saw it on the news. don't remember all the details but they are offering the vax

Is polio one of those vaccines most of us get as kids?

R76, yes, they wouldn’t have let you go to school if you hadn’t been vaccinated. Apparently in some states you can ask for the official record of your polio vaccination.

[quote] This planet is really done with us, isn’t it? Earth has just fucking had it with humans.

R59 Where was it written that a crazy planet full of crazy people* is going to survive forever?

*A cross-reference to the recent Oscar Hammerstein’s lyrics thread.

[quote]She was basically a contrarian hippie type who would go on for hours about chem trails and fluoride in the drinking water and 5G pollution and things like that.

I've known several people like this, and I hate them just as much as I hate MAGAt anti-vaxxers. Opposite ends of the asshole spectrum.

[quote] Thanks, anti-vaxxers!!!!

Thank Britain's most prestigious medical journal inventing that movement

We might see tons of GoFundMes pop up for Christian anti-vaxxer who need cash to send their kids to rehab hospitals or buy decent lightweight wheelchairs which cost 3-4 grand.

Thanks, r77, that's really helpful. I'd looked at my state before and couldn't figure out where to find the instructions.

Of course it would be a vintage curated disease next.

"Genetic analysis of the samples confirmed that the strain of polio responsible for the cases in New York, London and Jerusalem is vaccine-derived. Cases of vaccine derived polio have increased in recent years. In 2020, there were 1,081 cases of vaccine-derived polio recorded worldwide. This was triple the number of cases recorded in 2019. According to Reuters reports from August 16, there have been 177 cases so far in 2022. As health authorities have confirmed, the recent reemergence of the virus in the West is caused by a strain of vaccine-derived polio. It is connected to the weakened live poliovirus contained in the oral vaccine, according to the CDC."

“ Adults have a higher incidence of severe pain on day one, usually in the lumbar region with a higher incidence of prodromal hyperesthesia. These three features were clearly present in FDR’s case. Children have a much greater frequency of monoplegia, with a recorded incidence of 85 to 91 % in over 500 cases of spinal paralytic polio. This pattern in children is likely the basis for the criterion of asymmetry cited in the literature. Adults over the age of 30, however, have four extremity paralysis in over 50% (74/ 141) cases, which was the pattern in FDR’s case. Bladder paralysis “a common feature in adults (> 40%)... is most infrequent in children (2-4 %.)”

Like chicken pox, polio is more severe if you get it as an adult than if you get it as a child. Not vaccinating would leave an older population vulnerable to more severe rates of illness, especially because, like smallpox, polio can be created in a lab and potentially used as a bio weapon. It doesn’t have a high mortality rate, just a very high transmission rate with severe symptoms for a small number of people affected. But how high the mortality rate would be if there were more people over age 5 infected is an unknown.

It used to be so contagious and present that most babies were exposed in early infancy. The outbreaks of the 50s with more severe symptoms were associated with cleaner environments and later first exposures in older children.

“Many scientists concluded that it was the sanitation that expanded infection. Before the sanitation improvement, wild poliovirus was everywhere, and most people caught the disease as young children. They became immune.

"The thing about getting the infection in infancy is we get maternal antibodies that protect against paralytic polio," Martinez-Bakker said. People might get sick, but they would not get the paralytic form of the disease.”

“In children, paralysis due to polio occurs in one in 1,000 cases, while in adults, paralysis occurs in one in 75 cases.[23] By 1950, the peak age incidence of paralytic poliomyelitis in the United States had shifted from infants to children aged 5 to 9 years; about one-third of the cases were reported in persons over 15 years of age.[24] Accordingly, the rate of paralysis and death due to polio infection also increased during this time.[1] In the United States, the 1952 polio epidemic was the worst outbreak in the nation's history, and is credited with heightening parents' fears of the disease and focusing public awareness on the need for a vaccine.[25] “

This isn't the first vaccine driven polio epidemic in US History.

"Roughly 40,000 got “abortive” polio, with fever, sore throat, headache, vomiting and muscle pain. Fifty-one were paralyzed, and five died, Offit wrote in his 2005 book, “The Cutter Incident: How America’s First Polio Vaccine Led to the Growing Vaccine Crisis.” It was “one of the worst biological disasters in American history: a man-made polio epidemic,”

The weird antivax polio guy is something else.

Aniti vaxxers shouldn't be given the time of day. Ignorant, stupid people.

so if we had this vax as a child, it's still good? can we get another dose as an adult? will they do blood test to see if you're protected against this first?

That’s what I was wondering. Does the polio vaccine last for ever?

R92, From the CDC link (below):

Most adults have likely already been vaccinated against poliovirus during childhood, and that is why IPV is not part of routine adult vaccinations.

However, adults who are unvaccinated, incompletely vaccinated, or are completely vaccinated but are at higher risk for contact with poliovirus should receive polio vaccination. The following situations put adults at higher risk:

You are traveling to a country where the risk of getting polio is greater. Ask your healthcare provider if you need to be vaccinated. You are working in a laboratory or healthcare setting and handling specimens that might contain polioviruses. You are a healthcare worker treating patients who could have polio or have close contact with a person who could be infected with poliovirus.

Adults who have never been vaccinated against polio should get three doses of IPV:

The first dose at any time The second dose 1 to 2 months later The third dose 6 to 12 months after the second

Adults who have had one or two doses of polio vaccine in the past should get the remaining one or two doses.

Adults who are at increased risk of contact with poliovirus and who have previously completed the polio vaccination series (IPV or OPV) can receive one lifetime booster dose of IPV.

Hochul declares NY polio emergency after tests show virus in Long Island wastewater

Gov. Kathy Hochul ordered an emergency expansion of the state’s polio vaccination efforts Friday after scientists detected the crippling and potentially deadly virus in Long Island wastewater.

The latest test results, announced on Friday, add Nassau County to the list of locales on alert for the potential spread of the crippling disease amid a resurgence enabled by low vaccination rates in children. The governor’s emergency order aims to bolster the state’s vaccination effort by expanding the number of providers able to give shots to include paramedics, pharmacists, and midwives.

Public health officials have also spotted the virus in the wastewater systems in New York City and in upstate communities, including Rockland, Orange, and Sullivan counties.

Floods of unscreened third worlders can't possibly be a factor in the return of this once conquered plague. Trust us.

R95, Cuomo ended up being untrustworthy, yes. I think at the end of the day a lot of choices just come down to money and job security no matter what political affiliation a person claims to be. And politics is so unnecessarily divisive I think someone is manipulating behind the scenes to make it that way.

Somehow the message is to blame or scapegoat the people with the least power, with the effect that those who need help never get it and the country is further divided. I guess the message is: If some poor coal workers voted Republican, why not use their political affiliation as a reason not to help them? If some black Democrats want reparations, why not make it seem as if every homelessness problem everywhere is actually a reparations debate and that denying one means it’s okay to ignore the other?

If someone was actually trying to campaign to raise money to house the homeless instead of stir up race hatred that would be great. If someone was trying to get help for people in natural disasters in a rural community I think as a member of that community I would be more likely to listen to and vote for that person than if the person was mocking me for my last vote and ignoring my loss.

Polio will not be a large issue fortunately since almost everyone is vaccinated in the U.S. There are individual counties with higher numbers of people unvaccinated but most places in the country are protected.

Salk must be spinning in his grave.

anyone getting the Polio vaccine?

R97 The exact same thing happened while he was still alive in the 1950s. Vaccine derived polio has always been a risk. Around 40,000 kids got polio form one early batch of the Salk vaccine. He had a nervous breakdown because of it. .

R99, that vaccine derived polio from when the vaccine was brand new in the 50s isn’t the same as today; it was in the midst of an ongoing crisis; and the 40,000 who got polio from the vaccine mostly did not get paralytic polio. Also, the tainted vaccine was immediately recalled and and the program managed to move on to improve. “From the 1930s through the 1950s, the annual number of cases of paralytic polio increased from 10,000 up to 30,000 with an epidemic in 1952 involving almost 60,000 cases.”

“Polio was once one of the most feared diseases in the U.S. In the early 1950s, before polio vaccines were available, polio outbreaks caused more than 15,000 cases of paralysis each year. Following introduction of vaccines—specifically, trivalent inactivated poliovirus vaccine (IPV) in 1955 and trivalent oral poliovirus vaccine (OPV) in 1963—the number of polio cases fell rapidly to less than 100 in the 1960s and fewer than 10 in the 1970s.“

The tainted vaccine caused 200 cases of paralysis and 10 deaths. It was bad but not attempting a vaccination program would have been considerably worse.

Uh ohhhhhh. It's the Jews!

Will we have to keep pretending it isn't?