Sad piece on Ivana Trump's funeral in the NYTimes

(cont.) The younger Mr. Trump — whose fiancée, the former Fox News personality Kimberly Guilfoyle, sat across the aisle from him — told another story about his sister Ivanka destroying a very pricey chandelier while playing in the house with a beach ball. “Ivanka managed to quickly convince my mother that it was me,” he said.

That time, the “remedy,” as he put it, was a “wooden spoon,” and what made his mother even more irate as she spanked him was his fervent denial of having played any role in the misbehavior. “Not only had I broken the chandelier, but now I was also lying to her,” he said.

But by the time she realized he was telling the truth, Mr. Trump said, she was “too tired to deal with Ivanka.”

Ivanka Trump, 40, also spoke. Her mother “hated funerals,” she said, tearing up as she talked about the “trailblazer, admired by men and women alike” for her “grace and her beauty,” but also her business prowess and relentless work ethic.

She was also the sort of mother who teased her daughter for leaving a party in St.-Tropez at 1 a.m. (“She had stayed till 4”) and chided her for wearing clothes that were too modest. “My miniskirts weren’t mini enough,” she said. (Ms. Trump wore a black dress and pearls to her mother’s funeral.) Ivana’s motto, her daughter said, was “flaunt them while you’ve got them.”

“She taught me to study hard, to work hard, to comport myself with dignity and good manners and to never, ever marry a man with a bad back,” Ms. Trump said. “It took me years to understand the last one.” (Of her daughter’s marriage to Jared Kushner, Ms. Trump said, her mother had declared that “Ivanka must really love him if she’s willing to give up lobster.”)

“Now, she’s watching us from above, telling us to dry our eyes, have a good time and dance one more song for her,” Ms. Trump said. “Mom, I love you today, every day.”

The crowd was Park Avenue and fashion-industry-adjacent, though Whitney Robinson, a former editor of Elle Decor who had become friendly with the elder Ms. Trump in recent years, was in the back and said he had “no idea” who most of the people there were.

But they did include Paolo Zampolli, the former modeling agent whom Mr. Trump appointed to the board of trustees at the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts; Dennis Basso, the fashion designer whose high-oomph fur designs Ms. Trump favored; Couri Hay, the publicist and gossip columnist; and Jeanine Pirro, the right-wing newscaster.

Near the lectern was a poster board of Ms. Trump on the cover of Vanity Fair in 1992, above the headline “Ivana Be a Star.” One of the speakers would later name all the other magazines whose covers she had graced, among them Town & Country and Vogue. But Ms. Trump was living an increasingly solitary life in her final years, according to Marc Bouwer, a designer who dressed her for many years and who was also seated toward the back, wearing a black suit, no shirt and a sparkly costume jewelry necklace that he thought Ms. Trump would have liked; she was an unapologetic proponent of pairing fake jewelry with super-expensive clothing.

“She had been isolated,” Mr. Bouwer continued, in a brief interview at the church. “There was a lot of pain, a lot of sadness,” he said, before declining to elaborate on it.

Dorothy Curry, the former nanny to Ivanka, Donald Jr. and Eric, was perhaps the most striking speaker. In her two-minute speech, she alluded to that isolation, talking about how she had been close to Ms. Trump through the spring and summer of her life, after which followed an autumn and “inevitable winter” of “roses dying” as her former employer’s field of dreams became a “sinking swamp” of “parasites” who had kept her “afloat” with “illicit dreams and schemes.”

“Ivana, we have reached out to you many, many times, but obviously we didn’t reach out far enough,” she said. “We all basically let go and let God, and now you are totally in God’s hands.” (cont.)

(cont.) Mr. Basso, instead, described the good years. He recalled meeting Ms. Trump in September 1983, when he showed his first collection at the Regency Hotel and she went backstage afterward to meet him.

“She’s standing there in chocolate brown Gucci,” he said, “and she said: ‘I like you. You’re cute. You’re chubby, but we can fix that.’”

The following day, he said, she arrived at his showroom for an appointment and walked out with an order for seven pieces, along with an order to “send the bill to the Donald.”

She was, Mr. Basso and others said, a businesswoman who played an instrumental role decorating the hotels and residential buildings her former husband had worked on, among them Trump Tower, the Plaza Hotel and the Taj Mahal in Atlantic City. And when he ran for president, she was a full-throated supporter.

Ms. Trump had shared her ex-husband’s hunger for attention, and it wasn’t easy, others said in interviews, when her celebrity faded and his reignited, first with the television show “The Apprentice” and then when he became a successful presidential candidate. The adult children she had largely raised became appendages for him.

Nearly two hours after the funeral began, pallbearers carried the coffin outside to a recessional performed by Christopher Macchio, who also sang at the Republican National Convention when the former president accepted his party’s nomination in 2020. Mr. Trump and his current wife, Melania, trailed behind the body, followed by Ivanka, Eric and Don Jr.

The coffin was placed in a black hearse bearing the name of Frank E. Campbell Funeral Home, the place of near-rest for many members of New York’s elite. It was headed next to her ex-husband’s golf course in Bedminster, N.J., where ground was consecrated so Ms. Trump could have a traditional Catholic burial.

It was, in a way, the former couple’s final joint real-estate deal.

She raised monsters.

She's buried at his golf course?

She was a horrible woman. Friends work for her. She would tell staff to go home because they were too fat or she didn’t like their makeup. The stories were hours long. One of the nastiest pieces of shit in the world.

Doesn't sound like much love in that family. Mostly discipline and keeping up appearances

^That way, he can always tee off right on her grave and think of her!

[quote]“Now, she’s watching us from above, telling us to dry our eyes, have a good time and dance one more song for her,” Ms. Trump said. “Mom, I love you today, every day.”

Aw. That's sweet that she thinks she up there and not 👇🔥. I thought the Jewish didn't believe in heaven.

Nobody thinks Ivanka is a *real* Jew

RIP Ivana.

What inappropriate things to say at a funeral. Clueless trash as usual.

R5 Well surely you can’t blame her for being offended by fat people in bad makeup!

<- she'd just have to look in the mirror

Junior really seems like a bitter person. I bet he hates his father too.

^ Jr. has hated his father since he divorced his mother

Lots between the lines in that article. I’m surprised the family let the former nanny basically say the end of her life was miserable. I think she had issues with alcohol? Maybe this contributed to her fall ( and brittle bones).

Each of the children can expect the same, if not worse, at their funerals. And rightly fucking so.

This sounds like a combination funeral service and memorial - aren’t these usually two separate events? Private service, public memorial? Sounds like the fast food version of events.

They all sound awful, her included.

Is that Barron standing between Melania and Ivanka in the pic at OP? Poor kid, I thought he might have turned put alright looking at one point, but those anus mouthed genes have taken hold.

[quote] This sounds like a combination funeral service and memorial - aren’t these usually two separate events?

To be fair to the Trumps: no, not always. Often they are done together.

God is taking out the trash… one at a time. Next!

Did they read the will as she was being wheeled out to the morgue?

^ No, but you can believe that the Trump kids had her house cleaned before she even got to the morgue

Gold really is a beautiful color, visually, despite being so maligned

RIP Ivana

Sober

Closeup

This part about her son complaining that Ivanka set him up is a joke, right?

No lobsters

Poor Eric, still looking stunned

Kimberly looks like a young Leona Helmsley.

Cheekbones

Tiff and hubby put in an appearance too

I like the boy with cum stain on his pants. Who is he? Junior Mint's son?

80s IT Girl

Noan Rivers was the biggest salesperson on QVC, not this whore

Sorry, Joan Rivers

“Marc Bouwer, a designer who dressed her for many years and who was also seated toward the back, wearing a black suit, no shirt and a sparkly costume jewelry necklace”

Was wearing what?!

That certainly was a lot to take in. Very grim.

Wow none of her old friends showed, the Trump effect again. Is it the norm to highlight the times your mom belittled and physically beat you at funerals?

She had a hot poosey but she coulden leeve forever.

What a miserable, classless family.

The New York Times cunting on a dead woman. Should be beneath them.

R38: it actually doesn’t look that bad

I’m so tired of women not understanding that somber events require sleeves down to at least the elbow and no hemlines above the knee (unless you’re under the age of 10).

Tacky and classless people at this event.

Junior’s eulogy was an outpouring of grievances; I expect a bender and hospitalization for “exhaustion” within the next few weeks.

Ivana had been abandoned in later years; she and Donald raised children to favor those that can give them something. No matter how shitty, Trump became President; Ivana could never compete with that unless she married Rupert Murdoch or someone like him.

Such a sad, sad end.

Titty meat (even in silhouette) usually looks bad at a funeral but etiquette rules aren’t being followed at this particular event, so no harm, no foul. At least his chest isn’t drooping.

Why is Donald wearing a blue suit? He doesn’t own one black/darker suit?

Different angle

[quote]I’m so tired of women not understanding that somber events require sleeves down to at least the elbow and no hemlines above the knee (unless you’re under the age of 10).

Times have changed, Beverly.

Why are Jrs kids so dark/swarthy? His ex-wife/their mom is a blonde white girl.

Not in terms of proper attire for a funeral, Madhisyne.

So Ivana killed three other husbands?

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Jr is dark. Maybe Trump is not the daddy and that's why he hates Jr so much. Maybe there was an earlier Italian lover.

Melanie looked particularly rodent-like yesterday, furtive, defensive, eyes slit suspiciously. I wondered whether Donald might have been using the robot model instead of the real gal. Lurch Jr. is looking taller than ever!!

No Jr has Trump’s ugly mug and anus mouth.

I’ve attended several funerals with inappropriate eulogies that are critical of the decedent. Maybe it’s a Catholic thing? I am not much for canonizing people in death, except at their funeral. Let even the biggest asshole have that.

Don Jr. is 110% rage and resentment. Donald and Ivana probably did a real number on him.

If you're so up your own ass that you can't even get a "Serial Mom" reference, r50, then just bow out of the conversation.

[quote]Melanie looked particularly rodent-like yesterday, furtive, defensive, eyes slit suspiciously.

Slit eyes is her default. I've never seen her look any other way.

[quote]Is it the norm to highlight the times your mom belittled and physically beat you at funerals?

Jr. was messed up by both Mom and Dad. He's going to crack big-time one day.

Madhisyne, not every one is going to get a nearly 30 year pop culture reference. Especially those of us that were too young at the time.

Good Lord. They can't not be tacky for a two hour funeral.

So sick of these goombas

I suspect he'll just OD, r60. Probably a few years after his dad croaks and we finally no longer hear about this venereal disease of a family.

Show yourself out r61. Your diaper smells.

Why would someone who spends their entire day on this forum, complaining about "Millennials" and how young people spell their names, claim to be under 30? That's just a waste of time. Go do a push-up or eat some yogurt or start the laundry, if you're that bored.

This was our First Family. It is so very humiliating. Trash, just low rent trash. The family of grifters. I grew up in a middle class home and I would be offended if anyone dressed as disrespectfully for a family members funeral as these deplorable whores did. That eulogy was sad and disturbing. Was it Ivana's wish to be buried at a golf course?

[quote]It sounds like she felt by the end she had been deserted by her children

You gotta get lucky some of the time.

[Quote]Slit eyes is her default. I've never seen her look any other way.

I ask for the clit eyes, like poosey, but doctor no understand my accent.

At my father's funeral nobody from the immediate family gave a eulogy. Nobody wanted to it was just one of the sons-in-law. My father was a total bastard and we had nothing good to say about him. At least we had the decency not to get up in front of the congregation and tell everybody what a total shit he was. Though God knows it was so tempting.

[quote] Kimberly looks like a young Leona Helmsley.

Or a haggard looking Apache Squaw.

Did Anna Wintour have work done? She looks great here!

I had read a couple days ago that neither Marla Maples nor her daughter by Trump (Tiffany) were invited to the funeral. But I see Tiff showed up. Why, I don't know. I can't imagine she'd ever even met the old broad.

Well she was alone at the end and she did raise three shitty children grasping at a very rich father and leaving her to age stumbling around her townhouse heavily medicated with nobody caring. Not that she cared about anybody else who wasn't rich except a busboy in the Hamptons. There was an exceptional amount of shade in those eulogies.

R5- She sounds like that OTHER monster 👹

LEONA HELMSLEY

I'm in St. Tropez. Ivana would understand.

Barron looks like a cast member from The Addams Family movie.

Jr's girlfriend:

Melania is aging horribly. She looks harsh. With all the money she spends on upkeep, I thought she would look better. It used to be a toss up between her and Ivanka, and now Ivanka outshines her in every photo. M's whole face has fallen AND she has a harsh, evil look. Not attractive. I'm surprised Trump hasn't replaced her with 4.0 yet.

R79- What was going on with her feet? Disgusting.

R77- Barron , unfortunately has the TINY Trump mouth 👄

Melania is one of those women who work up a look and NEVER change it, 30, 40 years on.

R80 I don't know, but I am haunted by those hooves.

R82- That includes her facial expression as well.

“Deserted by the press?” The media is obligated to find an elderly woman with no career interesting because she was married to a famous man thirty years ago?

r71 if you can't form an analogy between the sickening likes Guilfoyle and Leona Helmsley without resorting to a derogatory slur about Native American women, you're punching-down, ignorant POS.

Fuck you. And now start your complaints about "wokeism" as any stealth right-wing Trumper would do.

Asshole.

What r16 said. The first thing I thought after her death was announced and the way she died, was that her adult children ignored her.

Agree with r45.

And even though Ivanka's dress is the proper length and it has my favorite thing on a garment - sleeves- as usual, she can't resist a too low cleavage to show-off her breasts. That neckline should be at least an inch or two higher.

SHAME ON ALL OF THEM! they did ever visit her? why didn't they have hired help, live in help, in case she WOULD fall or have a medical emergency? NO EXCUSE!..

Barron looks better than the last time we saw him- when he was leaving a hotel and carrying his mom’s purse or something. He looked fat, had acne, and needed a haircut. He looks fine here.

I can only hope Trump dies next. Soon.

Also, she was never beautiful OR stylish, even in the 80s. She alwys looked hideous, cheap and gauche, with that sprayed hair, alligator face and big ugly fur coats. Her appearance was always a joke in bad taste.

This account of Sarah Palin and other Alaskans lining up to meet Ivana at a JC Penney's in 1996 is a gem.

Warhol was at first quite taken with the Trumps, though he seemed to know, even in the early days, that Trump was close enough to Roy Cohn to be considered dangerous. I don't know what got into Warhol, but he did a whole slew of paintings of Trump Tower to show off to Donald and Ivana, and they were put off by what they thought was a greedy money grab. I think Andy had been used to real members of society, who politely ignored artists and their money grabs, but the Trumps weren't real society, they were grifters with the outward trappings of society. Andy was irritated (and probably embarrassed) by their snub.

I look at photos of them from the time, and I can't understand how Andy didn't peg them as lowlifes from the beginning.

[quote]SHAME ON ALL OF THEM! they did ever visit her? why didn't they have hired help, live in help, in case she WOULD fall or have a medical emergency? NO EXCUSE!..

She did have help. It was the help who found her.

I’ve never gotten the interest in shitting on Barron. TDS is a bewildering condition and seems to be comorbid with seeing Russian involvement everywhere. Strange people, strange behavior.

[quote] Fuck you.

Right back at'cha Della, you mentally deranged loon.

Ivanka needs to fortify her chin implant a bit.

R91, yes, it's true, and Warhol's close friend Divine was ALSO very good friends with the Trumps, back when they were New York ROYALTY!!

The Times referred to her "coffin." She was buried in a casket. A coffin is wood, wide at shoulders, narrow at feet. Remember burials in western movies? A casket is rectangular at more cost than a coffin.

r94, I'll take being a mentally deranged loon over being an ignorant, bigoted Trumper anyday.

Thanks, OP. This NY times piece is shadier than an apple orchard.

I'm surprised they didn't choose a smaller venue for her services, or even just have the service at the Campbell site.

Shady? They just liberally quoted the eulogies. Not their fault these people are totally vacant (aside from the evil).

@r97, I've gone my whole life without knowing that distinction 🙄

Very tacky, all the way around. I've been to enough funerals to know that there are ways of politely characterizing difficult people without bending over too far to be nice. I would imagine that she did become isolated---what friends she ever had were probably starting to die and she probably always traveled in circles where surface friendship dominated over real depth.

R101, all true but also the Trump association I'm sure sped up the isolation that old age often brings.

@r101, I don't know, she didn't seem to wallow in loneliness, she was headed off to St Tropez the next day. The one thing rich people have over everyone else is the money to distract themselves from any misery they might have to endure

Was that Blaine Trump in one of the photos?

r99, I should have made clearer that I wasn't referring to the actual quotes.

I'm with r16 about "between the lines". I was referring to the tone of the piece and its quotes from those outside the immediate family that implied or expressed that she was ignored and isolated by her children.

"I'm telling the whole world my dead Mommy beat me, BEAT ME! when I was child. I still remember it like it was yesterday even though it was almost 40 years ago. 40 years of PAIN and rejection!"

Barron towers over the 6’5” Eric. How tall is he?!

R107- I read that he is 6'7.

Oh, boo hoo for this old slag. Like Melania, she knew what she was getting into when she married the egomaniacal dickhead and bore his demon seed offspring..

As my mother used to say, she made her own bed, now let her sleep in it. Permanently.

If the state of NY seizes his assets and he loses Bedminster, then they will also be seizing Ivana's final resting place.

Kind of hilarious.

Thanks R97. Anyone knows why Americans seem to favor caskets and Europeans, coffins?

Shut yoor egnorahnt pie hoole vile eye take viktoree lep.

Heestoree is ritten by vicktors.

It was a "full couch" coffin, which means her "visitation" had the lid fully open.

She looks so much like a poodle in R91's photo that it's unnerving. A really UGLY poodle.

@r110, Can you imagine NY repossessing Ivana? Oh the headlines 😂

[quote]The New York Times cunting on a dead woman. Should be beneath them.

Seems like they were cunting on the Trump children.

They're beneath everyone.

R113, Open casket? Is that done now? Ugh.

Re coffins and caskets, now can someone please explain to me the distinction between "full couch" and "full COOCH"?? Not that ANYONE outside the embalming trade gives a damn...

THE BEST... IS YET... TO COME!!!

Full cooch is what I must have to do pee pee for the Donald for extra cost.

Jared is wearing a navy suit and not a black one, is that typical?

I didn't know Ivana was a good Catholic girl.

Why the hell was Tiffany invited?

Like a jog bra as outerwear for an observant Jew, r121

R92... did she have 24/7 living with her help? because she should have obviously...a actual caregiver, not a maid or butler or whatever?

Even within the appalling Trump Dimension in a stage-set crap show, the former nanny cut them all to pieces. In two minutes.

But I think there are a lot of "Ivana the Drunk" or "Ivana the Loon" stories coming out, and they're going to let her reputation hang to defend themselves about abandoning her.

And Trump Jr's run of being beat by his mother - such hideous people. What was the point? "She was tough"? Ugh.

Navy is more formal than black in many circles, FYI.

I no go Marla funeral when time come.

No if.

But may bee a little cool-off time.

Appearance mat-ter.

EVIL! EVIL! EVIL!

R73 I'm sure they had met at some point, at a family event like weddings. I had read years ago, that she had told her kids not to hate Tiffany, because she didn't do anything wrong. Meanwhile they were free to hate Marla as much as they wanted.

Well....RIP anyway. She was an interesting woman, good and bad.

R82 I don't think Donald allows them to change their looks. He wants them to look the same all the time as part of HIS brand.

"Of course, Sir and Children. Your requests can be accommodated. Our services begin upon payment."

The Trumps are famous for not paying contractors.

I'll bet Campbell didn't bill the Trumps and they their money upfront.

Those comments by Junior were pretty harsh. He must have really resented her. It sounds like they all did on some level.

I can't help but wonder if Ivana ever suspected any, ah, inappropriate behavior between her husband and her daughter.

What a cold, detached family . I feel sorry for Barron and Tiffany

Why didn't Tiffany get the same facial reconstruction surgery that Ivanka did? They actually made Ivanka look decent, Tiffany's face is a trainwreck.

I know it’s a somber occasion and all , but these exude unhappiness in general

These people ☝🏼

Ivanka is going to hit the wall hard, and soon.

Yes, *soon* Ivanka is going to look like her bloated old cow of a mother, may she rest in peace.

It will be interesting to see their kids with Ivanka and Jared's original faces. Will they get them degummed and dedimpled on their 13th birthdays?

Barron has makeup on. What a strange family.

Hope that spineless worm she is married to is prepared, lol.

I wondered about the contoured cheekbones, R143.

Have to say 138 I am surprised to see the depth of sadness among some in the Trump clan. Ivanka always has vacant eyes but in those pictures there does seem to be a level of numb shock.

Death is the great equalizer, no one escapes it and it the energy of being around it is powerful unless you are drugged up or mentally ill in some way.

Ivanka is dead inside.

R146 people who see humanity in those people's faces are projecting. Ivanka is especially awful in that she's acting most of the time she's in public. Every expression is planned, her eulogy was carefully milquetoast compared to her brothers' grievance-filled rants thinly disguised as humor.

Remember the "oh, Eric looks like he's in shock" comments from the intial announcement of her death? Doesn't sound like he was in much shock now.

Sounds like Ivana was a child abuser.

Everyone hit their kids back then, they were not considered child abusers.

I know 147 but she looks more dead inside than usual.

Maybe when her mother died she dragged the only bit of humanity in Ivanka into hell with her?

R149, she was raised in a Slav-adjacent culture. She parented as she was parented. Not saying I'd parent this way but being strict and hitting your kid if they don't get the message does not, in my opinion and within limits, constitute abuse.

Donald's eyes looked so sad. You could tell he was thinking that was his real wife.

It could be that the Demonic Pact was redistributed so now it's weighing on their souls more heavily since Ivana bore the brunt of the spiritual damage. Watch if they all appear to wear down faster after this.

Barron's makeup wearing is ridiculous.

R151- Ivanka is said to be Trump's clone in everyway. If she is feeling any sadness I personally believe it is only for herself, not the loss of her mother. When we lose a parent it reminds us of our own mortality. Ivanka is as much of a malignant narcissist as her father is.

Please stop with the "x eyes looked so sad". If they really cared about her they would have spent some time with her. You never saw Donald in public with Ivana, or any of the children in public with her.

The Donald, as Ivanka, is acting. He is doing it because he thinks it makes him look good.

R153- He has no human feelings. None. No empathy, no remorse, no grief. He is completely incapable.

[quote](Ms. Trump was married briefly then widowed before her marriage to Mr. Trump, and the two husbands who followed him died before her.)

Oh, FFS. All THREE of the others died in her lifetime?

Nietszche was right. There is no God.

[quote]'We want to see Ivana,' said Palin, who admittedly smells like salmon for a large part of the summer, 'because we are so desperate in Alaska for any semblance of glamour and culture.'

TOO FUCKIN' HILARIOUS!!!

Speaks to Palin's "tastes" that this what she considers "glamour and culture."

R159! Lolol! Did she take Ivana up in the copter and show her how to slaughter the wildlife too?

r155 I see Ivanka reacting to the children, someone dead inside wouldn't even notice the kids. She's got some human feeling in her.

R161- Like her father she is capable of feeling sad for herself, nothing more. Dark triads , all of them.

Paying attention to a child and comforting them isn't part of the triad. Ivanka does not possess the level of depravity that her father does. She would not pay any attention to her kids if she did. They would be handled by other people and she would consider them and annoyance when she did have to give the attention.

[quote] I'll take being a mentally deranged loon over being an ignorant, bigoted Trumper anyday

You really are dumb as a rock, aren't you. If I was a Trumper do you actually think I would be disparaging Trump, his stupid kids and one of his son's whorish wife? I have never voted for a republican in my life you stupid twat.

Did any of your parent's children survive childbirth? Something's seriously wrong with your medulla oblongata.

I respectfully disagree. All that was was an act for the cameras were on her, as she was well aware of.

The fact that all three of her children are huge assholes…says more about her than anything else.

"I see humanity in their eyes"

R166- Yes, they are all horrible, hideous people.

Barron = Trump Tower

ALSO R45:

"I may be a lowly strand snipper at a Supercuts Salon in suburban Sioux City, but at least I know how to dress for funeral!"

Imagine the hate-fucking Kimberly got the night after the funeral. I wonder if DT Jr called her "mommy" while pulling her hair and ramming it in her ass.

[quote] Is it the norm to highlight the times your mom belittled and physically beat you at funerals?

No, though to be fair to the Trump children, the writer's goal with this piece was to mock them and those snippets are likely taken out of context.

Or at least I hope they were taken out of context--what a complete shit show if that was the gist of all three speeches.

Always make everything about yourself and always play the victim. It's just the Trump way.

Damn, that boy Barron looks like Giant John, protagonist of one of my favorite childhood books.

(Here's hoping gifted, renowned architect Melania can help him build a better castle than poor Giant John)

People commenting on Don Jr.’s words are a little dumb. It was lighthearted comments about how his mother disciplined him. It happens all the time @ funerals.

I mean people have been joking about how their mom disciplined them forever. Especially in the Italian, Jewish, Latino, Asian and black communities. Relax people.

R175- May I ask how you know in what manner he meant his words to be?

It was not the Trump family's fault she didn't have round the clock care or other friends visiting her.

Again - the writer relayed a small portion of Junior Mint's speech. We have no idea what the context of that anecdote was or what else he said about her.

The writer was trying to manipulate you into reinforcing your beliefs about what trolls the Trump children are

[quote] Why didn't Tiffany get the same facial reconstruction surgery that Ivanka did? They actually made Ivanka look decent, Tiffany's face is a trainwreck.

Tiffany does not want to be an influencer like Ivanka does.

You have to realize: most people in the world do not get plastic surgery. It's only prevalent in the tiny world of celebrities who want to attract the paparazzi, and gay men.

That writer didn't have to write/say a single fucking word to reinforce my beliefs that Trump and his demon seeds kids and their spouses are, by far, the biggest collection of dirtball scumbags to have ever appeared on the American stage, R178.

Did anyone at the funeral mention murder?

People seemed to hint she had been part of "schemes" in her final days - what were they!

R178- I have suffered nearly six long traumatic years observing this morally bankrupt family. The one thing I do not require is another's opinion of them to know just what filth they ALL are.

Sometimes, Don Jr. just doesn't know when to shut up. He politely says something nice about his mother, when, in the next sentence, he is throwing snide shade at her.

I wonder if any woman was actually ever sexually attracted to Trump or just wanted money and influence and special treatment that came with fucking him? I feel for Ivana because I think she might have actually loved him.

[quote]Well she was alone at the end and she did raise three shitty children grasping at a very rich father and leaving her to age stumbling around her townhouse heavily medicated with nobody caring. Not that she cared about anybody else who wasn't rich except a busboy in the Hamptons. There was an exceptional amount of shade in those eulogies.

My stepfather was in no way a Trump level asshole, but his selfishness & making everything about yourself was on full display when his daughter eulogized him not by talking about the good times (whatever there were), but all of their dysfunction. We reap what we sow. Not that everyone on the planet, but what a dysfunctional, broken man-child Don Jr is was on full display at his mother's funeral. If any of them had an ounce of awareness, they'd be embarrassed this

Mel should take a long hard look at this spectacle because that's the future she's facing too.

Kimberly Guilfoyle - good lord

Trump was very handsome when he was younger and Ivana married him.

R186- He will never have the thing he wants the most - the love of his father. His father is incapable of love.

Like others have said, trump is very concerned about his image and brand. His family reflects on him....and not being an empathetic person, and narcissistic, his family has to look and act a certain way. There's no room for individuality and going outside that box. I can't imagine many, of any, warm and fuzzy moments in the trump family....even with Ivana as his wife. I do think Ivana was better with that and has shown, even if a little, humanness with her kids. Just a feeling....not knowing them. I think any sign of weakness was very taboo. trump hates weakness.

@r188, My father loves me...

Line...snort, line...snort, line...snort...

I never thought trump was handsome, even when he was young. He had the look of money, but not handsome.

Even Jr can do better than that old coke whore he is with. Why is he with her? How can he stand to look at her?

..*if any..

This is Trump is 1976.

Knowing what his loathsome personality is like, and what a fat pig he will become, he still seems awful, But if you knew nothing about him when you first saw this photo, you'd think, "That guy was handsome."

Trump was never attractive. The mouth and chin give him the look of a chromosomal disorder and even at his coked out thinnest, he was hippy and bottom heavy. Sorry. Pear shaped males are weird looking.

At first glance he looks good in that photo.

But there has always been something about his mouth that has been profoundly odd and off-putting.

When he was a teenager, he looked goofy but normal - and I think he had dental work done that left him not knowing what to do with his lips.

By the 1980s he was completely grotesque.

Sorry, he just was not handsome to me. I read about Trump and all of the New York crowd at the time when the Queen of Mean was making the news. The gossip was fantastic! I knew very little about the Trump's at the time. He was unlikable. He has always been unlikable, a try hard and a braggart. But that mouth of his ruined his looks. Even if he had been a nice, decent man he would have never been good looking with that ugly mouth. Just my opinion.

Don Jr.'s kids do look very swarthy. I thought they were Latino kids.

Ivanka is weary clear stripper shoes. Look and see!

[quote]Jr is dark.

Don Jr was blond as a kid. And not the fake way his dad is now.

I do feel bad for Ivana - the line about having them come live with her-- Trump barely saw them after the divorce but they all pretty much abandoned her once they became adults, choosing to let The Donald manipulate them and make their lives hell in exchange for a shot at the limelight and 30 pieces of silver.

She saw that and was devastated

Forgive the stupid question, but how does one get buried at a golf course? I assume it’s not the ninth hole or whatever, but where is this grave?

Is that kid really Junior’s or was Kimberley’s son invited?

R91 Coincidentally, according to Wikipedia, Warhol also regularly attended St Vincent Ferrer in the 60s and 70s.

Trump is a cruel and ruthless bastard who must always win. He also controls the money and everyone around him must kiss his ass and treat him like a God. I have no doubt he demanded full loyalty from them. He probably wouldn't have liked it at all if his kids showed any loyalty to Ivana. He truly thinks that way. He is a petty, vengeful tyrant.

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R194, that's passable, barely passable, young WASP look.

Ivana looked really rough for a wealthy NYC 73 yo woman. How did she hit the wall *that* hard? Booze?

R127 is being ridiculous. Nothing is more "formal" (which is the wrong word, of course, the correct word being "appropriate") for a funeral. These twerps here. And if the poster is pretending to be speaking for some cultures in a corner of Cambodia, that is not relevant here.

But the main point is that there is nothing wrong or inappropriate about a man wearing a navy blue, dark gray, even medium gray, to a traditional funeral. Black simply is the most traditional, and even "respectful." Jared also wore a blue suit to John McCain's funeral. And check out what his cunt wife wore, while we're on the subject of

How long has Ivana looked bad? Could she have had long COVID?

"Work trip?" Was she an old whore too?

Black is not more "formal" so much as more appropriate for a very traditional funeral. This pack of grifters, including Ivana, who make Irish Travellers look like the bastions of taste and discretion, might as well have worn clown suits and carried bazookas.

Navy blue, dark or even medium gray are all fine for funerals. But it was his cunt wife's mother, and the woman wore black, so his choice is his choice. He wore navy blue to McCain's funeral. But look what cunt wife wore.

Ivana may have been 85, she was from a soviet country.

Lara Trump looks angry in these photos -- hardened features and a determined jaw.

Eric looks truly sad.

Is Jared a robot?

Kim Guilfoyle has had LOTS of plastic surgery.

Why does Donald always stand like a toy soldier with his butt sticking out?

Ding, ding, ding

R210.

Claimed to be an Olympic skier.

No record of this accomplishment

I can't quite describe the look on Tiffany's face as she is standing at the top of the stairs, leaving the service. Angry? Disgusted? 🤷‍♀️

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I suppose the short and best answer is that since Jared's heart is "formally" black it didn't matter what the outer dressing is.

Ivana was like Melania: a sex worker for whom a back story needed to be written when she married Donald.

Melania was a "model" with an "architecture degree" and Ivana was an "Olympic Ski Champion" and "model."

But they were both whores.

Jared is sinister looking. Very cold looking.

[quote]trump hates weakness.

Yet, he is weak. Trump is incredibly weak. He's an untalented fool with delusions of grandeur. Putting others down and name calling is not a sign he's not weak. Insecure weak people always put others down before others get the chance to do that to them. It's called projection.

That monstrous gold apartment Trump always brags about sure points to his fantasy of being some sort of king or dictator.

This was the apartment Trump lived in while married to Ivana. Not a single outlandish gold flourish in sight.

Work that pushie.

Aww, boo hoo. Poor rich woman.

What's baffling, how did Ivanka's nose get larger? She never appeared to have a fat bulbous nose, but in photos over the past few years, her nose looked much larger. Even if a person gains a lot of weight, their nose doesn't get larger.

Was she into coke? I know Drumpf was.

This photo was taken the year she divorced The Donald. Her nose looks normal.

R24 Why aren’t the sons carrying the coffin? Lazy!

Was this a roast or a funeral?

R223, successful surgical intervention, a makeunder and never looked better

I am thinking that she was older, alcoholic, smoker, pills, long covid.

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Before surgical intervention

Ivanka is getting into Michael Jackson territory with that nose. It is crooked now and appears to have little cartilage.

R228- Did she leave any final wishes about this? Nevermind, it wouldn't have mattered if she had.

R211 missed a Thorazine dose. Dear, don't let the voices get away from you. You know what you did the last time you became agitated.

So….back to the golf course and her life …which hole ….I’m guessing 12th but maybe she’s the 17 th ( or is the Trump course one of those 36 hole deals) ….and would she count as one, or two, or three…and then there’s always the question of a shower after a round …. ? Tis a puzzlement !

[quote]Ivanka is getting into Michael Jackson territory with that nose. It is crooked now and appears to have little cartilage.

Her face is now resembling a mask. Those new pursed lips aren't doing her any favors.

Ivanka should have observed those two elderly plastic-surgeried hags in attendance at her mom's service, those two frightening faces are her future. Scary.

R233- Not very serene and peaceful, is it? I wonder what happens to her if he happens to lose this property as he has so many others?

[quote] What's baffling, how did Ivanka's nose get larger?

As you get older, your cartilage loses its elasticity, so what seems like a reasonably sized nose when you're young looks like a big nose when you're older because it droops. The same thing often happens with people's ears, which also are held up by cartilage.

I wish her. Children would have died instead of her

A woman's mother is being buried and she gets up and goes for a jog? That to me is very bizarre even though I know there are those who think why not she was dead for a few days. The day of burial is wrenching and takes a lot of energy to get through. As ambivalent as my relationship is with my mother on the day she will be buried (if I myself am still alive) I can't imagine getting up in the morning and thinking about getting in a good workout at the gym. But then who knows?

Ivana lady now bury at first hole. She use to call herselve "Donald's First Hole" but she was so stupid.

@176. Do you really think Jr would lash out at his mother at a funeral? Remember he couldn’t stand Trump for his cheating ways and ultimately the divorce. They have never been close since.

Again, kids joke about how their mother’s discipline them when they become adults., especially if they are good terms. And that’s exactly what Jr. was doing.

There’s lurch in the middle thinking “me hungy”

R240- He isn't a kid. He is over 40 years old and a parent himself. Would he do it? Oh, yes, certainly he would. Did he mean it another context? He certainly could have, idk. Trumps aren't exactly known for putting decorum and the best interests of others first in any situation.

R240, you seem unable to differentiate between what a drug-addled egomaniac lunatic (Donny Jr) THINKS he's doing when telling TWO anecdotes of his mother disciplining him and what he, as a textbook case of inadvertent self-revelation, actually delivered.

Now sit down and stop being a hectoring dullard. You misread things, too, so maybe you don't want to try to respond to this other than with the usual "fuck you" retort.

R91- You sound INSUFFERABLE 😣

I don't understand the pearl-clutching about these eulogies / remembrances. I think it's refreshing, actually.

Also, according to Meghan McCain, Ivanka and Jared crashed John McCain's funeral.

Junior had a difficult relationship with both parents--all three of them did. They were mostly raised by nannies--SPY Magazine in the late 80s wrote a piece before the divorce where Trump said he only saw the kids about an hour each week when they were growing up, and both he and Ivana were so busy with business and socializing (and in Trump's case, also seeing his mistresses) that they spent little time with the children when they were small. Obviously Trump Sr. would not be able to tolerate small children because they would not be orderly enough nor give him enough undivided attention.

They did see more of their mother than their father, and so when the divorce came, both of the boys sided with her rather than with their father. Junior in particular refused to even see his father for quite a while. I think at some level Senior never forgave him, and that Ivanka has ever since been the favorite because she didn't break with him. All three children then sucked up crazily to their father after they left college, hoping to get into his good graces and hoping to inherit the empire (it's very much like the Murdoch children, or like the children on "Succession" which is based primarily on the Murdochs). Ivana had money to bequeath to them but not enough to live in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed, so they mostly ignored her as adults and focused their attentions much more on their father.

The eulogies make it sound like Junior thinks of his mother mostly in hostile terms as a disciplinarian who would embarrass him--he probably feels far more maternal affection towards his nannies. I have no idea whether Ivanka thought of Ivana the same way (she has always been much more politic than Junior), but her eulogy also sounded oddly distant. the comment about the lobster sounds like Ivana barely knew Jared or the strength of Ivanka's relationship with Jared when Ivanka announced her marriage to her.

What an ugly bunch of shmos!

Again, I hate ever to take the Trump children's side in anything, but Megan McCain's complaint they "crashed" her father's funeral is (typically) ridiculous. Cindy and Megan arranged for McCain's funeral services to be never ending and enormous; they were never private, except for the actual burial, which was a private family service.

Megan collects perceived slights or etiquette slips in her psyche from everyone, and then publicly bitches about them because she has some sort of major personality disorder. There are many, many, many things to hold against Jared and Ivanka, but attending John McCain's funeral is ridiculous--as the first Daughter and her husband, were showing their respects to a major figure in the same political party, for whatever reason. Megan can't have it both ways--she can't have had enormous public funerary services for her father across the country and then whine when people she doesn't like attended.

Megan McCain is just a sour complaining cunt.

R246- Yet it was his father who punched him in the face in public because he wasn't wearing a dress shirt to go to a ballgame. Trump was the abusive bully in that family.

It's "Saint-Tropez". Not St. Tropez. Even the Times got it wrong. Shady AND sloppy article.

I thought it was Lindseybelle who invited Jared and Ivanka to the McCain funeral. He who was such a dear friend to John and then said nothing when Mr Draft Dodger himself trashed McCain in front of the entire country for surrendering to the enemy rather than dying in a heroic escape. And to have invited the evil spawn to the mass! This wicked witch waved a broomstick and dressed Ivanka in that 50 year old sofa fabric from some hoarder's basement to wear to the service. I'd say it was an old queen's revenge.

I like my guests to be invited.

[quote] Trump was very handsome when he was younger

Trump was NEVER handsome. He's always looked like an inbred retard with an asshole grafted onto his face for a mouth.

[quote] [R233]- Not very serene and peaceful, is it? I wonder what happens to her if he happens to lose this property as he has so many others?

Well, I suppose they will remove the gold headstone, and probably coffin, to leave her remains in dear old... wherever... far, far, away.... forever.

All that family and money and she died alone.

Ivana and Nancy Reagan can rot in hell together

[quote] All that family and money and she died alone.

Look at the "family." She created them.

She was likely a whore when she married her first husband and possibly still a whore when she married Trump. Later in life, she married whores, herself.

R8 Heaven? We don’t have hell, at least the Christian concept of everlasting torture.

R253 one of Robert Kennedy’s sons looks just like that. Christopher. An asshole for a mouth.

She left all her fake jewelry to the orphans.

^^ I hope Darfur Orphan appreciates it.

They're a little crunchy, but beggars can't be choosers

I am enjoying this thread immensely and would only like to add that, while I don't condone the beating and abuse of one's children, I thoroughly condone the beating and abuse of Don, Jr. My only question is: why was Eric spared? Was he considered too special to have the shit kicked out of him?

R.I.P. in hell, Ivana, you old cunt.

^ Eric is a Cuck and a wimp and knows better than to make mommy mad

[quote] It's "Saint-Tropez". Not St. Tropez. Even the Times got it wrong.

Oh Mary,

[bold]GET OVER YOURSELF.[/bold]

[quote] All that family and money and she died alone.

We all die alone.

[quote]Even within the appalling Trump Dimension in a stage-set crap show, the former nanny cut them all to pieces. In two minutes.

Yes, it was simultaneously moving and vicious.

I'm sure her first words to Satan would be "do you know who I am" followed with "where is the air conditioning."

Don't get mad, get drunk and cartwheel down the stairs.

[quote]Even Jr can do better than that old coke whore he is with. Why is he with her? How can he stand to look at her?

I think her job is to keep him level; she's clearly in on the grift, but Jr is a paycheck where she's concerned. In addition to his passive aggressive hostility to his mother, I love that he wedged in there how much he hates Vanky too.

As far as how Father & Mother Trump treated the kids, Jr was a natural target as the oldest son, Vanky is clearly the darling manipulative daughter, but I'm guessing Eric is like Connor on "Succession" - he's considered a joke so he doesn't get the same abuse because no one expect anything from him besides sitting in the corner & eating paste

This is how ostentatious, gauche cunts deserve to die: headlong down marble stairs.

Yes, the Kushner kids look damaged by their association with that sociopath father and enabling quiescent mother.

[quote]Ms. Trump was married briefly then widowed before her marriage to Mr. Trump, and the two husbands who followed him died before her.

She couldn’t have pulled this black widow bit on Trump? Thanks for nothing, Ivana!

Barron is looking good. 16 years old and 6'7". Professional basketball or basketweaving?

^ Home school shooter 😏

[quote] Barron has makeup on. What a strange family.

I'm not surprised he was wearing makeup, nor do I find it that strange. There were pictures of him last month with a lot of acne. He knew there would press there and probably felt sensitive about it so his mom was like "concealer!" And, she put too much on him. I knew several guys who resorted to letting their girlfriends make them up for Senior pictures and prom, because they were like I don't want to look like a pizza face for the pictures.

When it comes to burying Ivana at the golf course in a family plot for ten, I suspect it is one last grift on the part of Trump. He has not announced a Presidential Library, either a government one nor a private one like Nixon did. I bet you he is going to raise a bunch of money from his supporters to build a library and then he will sell the golf course to the library as the location.

And for the record: the older 3 barely acknowledge Tiffany's existence. Watch them in public. She's just another person they have to share the inheritance with (I think they'll all be omitted).

She shouldn't have been there. The child of the woman who broke-up their idyllic Manhattan fantasy? But she appeared to say, "I'm a Trump, too!". Same for Barron.

Donald and his newest family decided last minute to go because he wanted to postpone his deposition, and it would look stupid if he did that w/o going to the actual funeral.

Was she murdered over knowledge of Trump's crimes.

R278 I have heard that Ivana was always clear to her children that they shouldn't take out their frustrations about the breakup on Tiffany, they could be cunts to Marla though. Also, the other Trumps don't seem to hate Melania and Barron because they came along much later, and at least she isn't Marla.

The NYT article said that the church was half-empty and lacking in celebrities. That shows that the surviving Trumps, not just Ivana, don't really have friends that show up to pay respects.

Barron was wearing more than concealer and foundation. He had some cheek makeup or contouring going on, as well. Same shade as Melania's, probably.

R281 I suspect Melania only knows how to do makeup one way, so she made him up a little too much.

[quote]The NYT article said that the church was half-empty and lacking in celebrities. That shows that the surviving Trumps, not just Ivana, don't really have friends that show up to pay respects.

Not even her BFF Nikki Haskell showed up.

R283- Because no one likes them.

My GAWD!

That NYT write up is so shady, it’s actually the middle of the night.

Never have I read such a nasty postmortem blurb than this.

And the lifelong caretaker/former nanny of the 3 children truly called them all out, insinuating that they all abandoned their mother, leaving her to be feasted upon by wolves of a different stripe than their own.

Imagine the write-ups DJT will end up with after he croaks?

Also, Kimberly has made herself into one of the UGLIEST women I’ve ever seen. Almost impossible compared to what she looked like when married to Gavin.

And I do feel sorry for Junior. It’s plain as day that he’s STILL carrying a BLAZING torch for his ex, Vanessa, and she clearly despises him and showed up due to their children.

Wow. So much told with so little words - that’s what pictures are all about, aren’t they.

RIP Mrs Trump # 1

Next!

R285, Kimberly is such a huge fall from his former wife that it's really shocking. Her coke must be the best ever.

The Trumps are just like us! His mom probably did that because that's what moms do!

Look at their eyes! They are human and full of love and feelings! They are like any typical human family!

Barron was wearing concealer and foundation possibly because DJT punched him recently during a fit of anger. He is a physically violent man, from the stories Ivana shared as well as Junior's roommate and others.

R277 he won't sell it, he will lease it and charge outrageous fees.

And yes she's buried there because that way his company pays for it.

R289- Yes he is an abusive bully. He punched Jr in the face one time because he wasn't wearing a dress shirt when Trump picked him up to take him to a ball game.

R288 No, I don't believe they are just like us. Only that a teenage boy, with known acne problems, wearing makeup when he knows there are going to be a lot of photographers from the world's media there, is the least strange thing about them. Also, no matter what, Melania and Barron seem to have a close relationship so a mother/son makeup thing wouldn't be that weird.

William Devane had the opposite of a Trump TINY mouth.

He had a mouth the size of the GRAND CANYON.

These clowns don’t even rise to the level of “mediocre” or “basic.” They aren’t even good villains. Boring and second-rate. “Loosers “as their cult members would say.

William Devane was a die-hard Republican, huge pussyhound.

That's right r292, all teenage boys are the same.

Melania is possessive. Assuming Trump didn't use the fake Melania she would have only gone to this funeral to spit on the coffin because SHE won.

[quote]Not even her BFF Nikki Haskell showed up.

Ol’ Nikki was there. If you follow a straight line up the stairs behind Melania, Nikki is in blue.

Melanoma is never going to leave Dump. I'm pretty sure of that. She's seen what happens with his former wives and she wants nothing to do with that. She gets protection, money, and all the massages she wants. That all goes away if she divorces him. Funny enough, I think Dump has had enough of her.

R296 Are you just committed to being a fucking cunt?

I never said ALL TEENAGE BOYS are the same, only that it is common enough for me not to find it strange.

Melania probably went because she knew that if she didn't everyone would be talking about it or because Trump ordered her to, though I don't think he controls as much as some people think.

R298 I bet you she has made it clear to him that she knows about all of the illegal shit he has done during their marriage and that if he tries to get rid of her she will release it all.

He's still fucking other women most likely, assuming he can still get it up. He just wants her there to look pretty.

I wonder if he's still taking the stimulants to function. That shit can make you extra-aggressive.

I am reminded of that story about one of Melania's White House aides saying something to her about DJT and her responding "I know who I married."

They all look as miserable as they deserve to be.

R299 I'm just agreeing with you! Barron wearing makeup is perfectly normal, just like any teenager would!

I'm wearing makeup right now!

Fuck everyone named Trump.

Oddly the dresser who wore the costume jewelry and had his tits out seemed the person who was most genuinely fond of her/seemed to know her in the last stage of her life. I was moved by his little tribute. It seemed sincere.

It would have been fun if Marla Maples had shown up unannounced at the funeral.

R305 Also the guy that owns the Italian restaurant she frequented. He blocked off her booth last night and covered it in flowers. It is probably more than she will ever get at the golf course.

The dresser trying to pass the giant fake necklace off as a tribute to Ivana was funny. Gurl, just say you wanted to wear it and feel fabulous!

R306 that would have been amazing. Especially if she was wearing a huge hat and a dark mourning veil.

I have a feeling that if Marla had died Ivana would've done it.

I stand corrected, R297

That would also have been awesome!

Whose idea was it to bury her at a golf course? Hers or someone else’s? I find it hard to believe she didn’t have burial arrangements sorted out at her age.

[quote]And the lifelong caretaker/former nanny of the 3 children truly called them all out, insinuating that they all abandoned their mother, leaving her to be feasted upon by wolves of a different stripe than their own.

Nasty woman. Low class. People are saying she's a terrible person.

R295- Here on the datalounge a lot of CLOSET QUEENS are mockingly referred to as PUSSYHOUNDS but William Devane was a genuine PUSSYHOUND.

New Yorkers elite are just not as attractive as they should be.

"New Yorkers elite" Oh, dear, R316.

Trash grifters posing as the elite are not attractive. Fixed that for you.

That garbage gang of grifters and thieves are living off of the money stolen from us, our government. I have never hated anyone as much as I hate them. All of them.

R297. I thought that was Jocelyn Wildenstein.

Nikki looks like shit.

SPY Magazine once said of Nikki Haskell in a photo caption the early 90s, "If she had one, her career would span four decades!"

Wow, Ivana was a total cunt too!

Now, a dead cunt!

"Mostly discipline"

Mostly discipline, R6? What discipline do any of the Dumps display, ever?

Throwback: Moments of Sweetness

Nikki had some horrendous plastic surgery. She looks awful.

They're all cunts, R323. Nothing sweet about any of them. A grease fire is too good for them.

NYSD’s take on the Trump divorce 🙄

The Cover

Long day’s journey into night

Secret Service cutie

@r328 Looks like Jr. is going to an audition for a Goodfellas reboot

... Make that Scarface 😜

I just can't understand how all those Trumps were under one roof and nothing went 'ka-boom'.

^ I've been asking myself that for 2 days. Where are all the crazies when you need them? 🙄

R228, Ivana WAS the First Hole.

Legally, anyway.

Sad but dignified

A DILF mourner

^ Looks like a sleazy lawyer looking for new clients

Assorted mourners

^ Jr.'s dealer was there I see (she looks so "alert")

Visually enhancing the sad environment

^ That's the Gayest looking SS agent I've ever seen 😂

80s Whizkid/ ElderGay designer Zang Toi dresses appropriately [for the weather]

^ Was his black Speedo at the cleaners?

R340, is he giving the Trump thumbs-up?

"Enjoy, folks!"

"Trump thumbs-up? "

🤔

I thought they were showing everyone how big their dicks were

[...]

Who inherited the vigs?

I almost feel sorry for Ivana, being abandoned by her family in her final days, but then I remember who she was: she loved grifters and respected the grift. I think she loved Trump to the end. She taught her children to love and honor the greatest grifter. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

[quote]Live by the sword, die by the sword.

More likely died from too much booze, bad diet and overall bad health. Ivana turned into a big swollen mess. I know people older than Ivana who look much healthier. It's obvious she wasn't in good health.

As for the dangerous staircase, she surely had enough money to add one of those small elevators into her mansion.

She died by marble--as her old-cunt, bloated-by-booze bag of bones cascaded down the staircase. Bye, bitch.

What a bunch of hypocrites, Ivana actually said this: ""I am immigrant, but they have to come to the country legally, they have to get a job, they have to pay taxes like the rest of Americans."

Drumpf barely pays any taxes, who the hell was Ivana kidding.

The Drumpfs are a family of "Do as I say, not as I do" grifters. They are so fucking nauseating. Wish they'd just fade away.

Keeping poosey and like such as anuse in Nice condition with men's is good for health of Lady at all age of life. Ivana's poosey? Sad and not Best.

Who inherited the wigs?

Memorable

^ I ask for only sexy Secret Services agents but then The Donald intervene and make them all gays.

R349, I think she did have an elevator in the house. Why she didn’t use it is the question.

Wasn't there rumors that Melania was fucking one of her agents while First Lady?

For R266

And for Ivana as she burns in Hades.

I need the SS agent in R340's photo inside me quite deeply.

Just remember when you look at the blood Trumps - they all have chin implants.

Barron looks like a chinless round-faced gibbon currently (who thought makeup would improve that??) but eventually he will get his, too.

Yes and the head of security from Tiffany. I bet he stole her all types of diamonds. I've said it before, but she is on the autism spectrum and instead of train schedules, it's fashion and jewels.

If only we knew who Barron's father is.....

It's clearly Trump, because of the anusmouth and lack of chin. Those are the distinctive traits. He gets the round head from his mother's peasant genes.

I think she was probably alcoholic in her last chapter. There were several public intoxication incidents, she looked it, and she fell down stairs. Isolation is also a feature of alcoholism. Also Donald isolated his alcoholic brother. That’s my take.

They claim she was found with spilled coffee near her, but we all know it was straight gin!

Late stage alcoholics also push others away. They self isolate. Even if her children asked her to have 24 hour nurses around she could very well have told them to fuck off. She seems the type.

@r357, "Wasn't there rumors that Melania was fucking one of her agents while First Lady? "

Melania has been getting a proper dicking by this hot security guard, Hank Siemers 😛

I find it weird that no one is mentioning that her last husband, Rubicondi - who she was with longest and clearly still had feelings for despite divorce including seeing regularly post divorce - just died a few months ago. She looked like she gave up after his death. Every pic since then looked like she was 20 years older and feeble. I think she stopped living after his death. The fall was just the direct cause - but she dearly had given up on life last year.

That's a very good point, r368.

All the more reason for her to self medicate (alcohol) and isolate.

bump

But the most unusual eulogy seems to have come from Dorothy Curry, who worked in the Trump household as the children’s nanny and gave remarks in which she referred to Ivana’s isolated later years in terms that sound positively gothic:

In her two-minute speech, she alluded to that isolation, talking about how she had been close to Ms. Trump through the spring and summer of her life, after which followed an autumn and “inevitable winter” of “roses dying” as her former employer’s field of dreams became a “sinking swamp” of “parasites” who had kept her “afloat” with “illicit dreams and schemes.”

R371, that's what it sounded like when Ivana fell down those stairs.

I Think it was more of a *Splat* 🤔

Why would Hank Siemers, a Tiffany VP, become a security guard? Isn't that more than several steps down financially. WTF?

^ I believe he's VP of Tiffany's security company

R375, Hank provides great sexcurity, ahem, security!

Hanky Semen know how to work Vairst Laidy's tight virginal poosey. 🍆🍆

Mmmmmm, vat a manz 😍 🥰

I believe it's the first man Mel ever fucked without first giving instructions as to where to leave the money. Girl is RICH and is fucking for fun now

I'll give the poster doing the Melania impression this--he keeps trying.

Fuck ju, R380.

She looks absolutely nuts. I see no reason why any man in his right mind would want to fuck her , especially since she’s married to an even bigger nut job: DJT.

But the rumors persist. Allegedly, this has been going on for many years.

They'll all be so much better off once Donald is dead.

^ Um, the entire US as well

[quote]I'll give the poster doing the Melania impression this--he keeps trying.

There are several, not just one, darlink.

R382 R383 is the reason someone would want to fuck Melania now, so when Trump croaks she will already have him waiting in the wings. Trump will barely be in the ground, before we hear MT is moving on.

She will wear all black for a year because it's slimming, while having affairs.

Trump's wealth is all tied up in his businesses so I'm curious how much actual money there will be.

The gargoyle at R338 looks like something out of a New York Social Diary writeup.

"Trump will barely be in the ground"

Yes, R386, but WHEN?

Bump

Ivana was a smart, hard working and resourceful woman with very bad taste in men. RIP.

She was a cunt.

She left behind an iconic line and an iconic hairstyle, though!

Not sure what else she will be remembered for. I don't shop on home shopping channels like QVC though.

2017: Uncle Barron and nephew Theo

2022: Uncle Barron and nephew Theo

This would have been such a great opportunity to arrest the lot of them—impounding Ivana's coffin, too, of course.

@r395, Yep, looks like being a Trump sucked the life out of both of them

Technically coffins and caskets are different.

R297. Trump looks like he’s being stalked on both sides by Children of the Corn.

[quote] am surprised to see the depth of sadness among some in the Trump clan. Ivanka always has vacant eyes but in those pictures there does seem to be a level of numb shock.

They knew the whole world was watching ya dumb shit,.

I don’t they’re acting sad. They’re incapable of faking sadness.

When I saw that picture, I thought, they are all wrecks because they don’t know how the 1/6 investigation is going to turn out and they’re afraid they’re about to lose their entire lifestyle. They all look haunted, and not by Ivana. This could be pretty close to the last time they’re all together before it all falls apart. Even the kids look worried, not sad, and they probably barely know Ivana.

Ivana is the classic, timeless story of the American Dream: An immigrant becomes a rich and famous citizen and then loudly proclaims to hate immigrants.

In that same SPY article about Nikki Haskell as quoted at r320, they referred to the fake "Andy Warhol" silkscreen portrait of Nikki (that she did herself!) behind Nikki in the photo at r324 as " both an homage and a bargain at the same time!"

I wonder if they will release details of autopsy report. I bet she was drunk.

R404- Yes, and probably pills as well. She looked like an alcoholic, people can't hide that but they think they can. Others can see the obvious signs and she had every one of them.