Golden Girls: The minor characters you hate the most

Kid Pepe.

Oddly, I like Enriqué Mas.

I hate them too r1.

I didn’t like Mammy Watkins either because of the adultery.

Ham Lushmouth was a hog.

I hate that bitch who is Rose's daughter.

Miles

Rex Huntington, Blanche's abusive fling in "The Bloom is Off the Rose". (S6, E:13)

It was very effective, so I applaud the actor Mitchell Ryan (who just died in March, at age 88), and the writers for covering the subject.

Mr Ha Ha and Lou the plumber….both played by the same actor, Alan Blumenfeld.

R6 is just grouchy because he hasn't finished his Ha Ha Dog.

Branche's sister who wrote the novel.

I also hate the kid who pushes the ice cream in Mr. Ha Ha’s face. Kid was such a bad actor, they had to dub in someone else saying “Happy Birthday Dorothy!”

Mr Terrific

Mary

Daisy

David

Sonia Klingenhoffer.

Those new new neighbors the McDowells - especially that Martha McDowell.

She never changes her clothes - there's something "fishy" about her if you know what I mean.

Eddie

Speaking of neighbors, I can't stand that horrible Renee Corliss...

And the way she used the girls to get her own backdoor pilot episode...

"Wah, wah, I'm a doctor's wife and I'm lonely!"

So ruthlessly ambitious, she was like a menopausal Lea Michele but less talented.

I hated fat Rebecca's fake accent.

Phyllis Hammerow, who thinks she's Miami's answer to Meryl Streep.

Every Community theatre production she thinks she has to be the star.

She stinks up the joint, like a slightly more talented Rita Moreno.

Blanche’s slutty niece Lucy. Who the fuck would believe that a plain/mousy looking girl like her could land a doctor or a guy that took her to the Bahamas.

^ She was a prostitute!

McCracken, the hard-ass union-busting manager at Captain Jack's Seafood Shanty.

Cousin Sven. He looked like a clone gay & the actor was terrible.

Coco the gay roommate from the pilot even though Sophia thought he was an OK petunia.

R15 are you the Noodlehead in the red dress they kept talking about?

I hated Dr Jonathan Newman because he was a MIGET

I hated the Swedish bombshell that shows up at the end of the Sven episode. She seems like a bossy bitch. I preferred Ursula, the Scandinavian bombshell on Designing Women. I would have been tempted to put her bra on my head too.

Mine have already been mentioned:

- Kirsten, the worst of the children and a colossal bitch no matter who was playing her.

- Mammy Watkins, an entitled asshole who was nasty to Blanche right down to the end. "So we went through all this was for nothing!" "I wouldn't say for nothing." (Pained grimace as she waits to start squawking about her damn music box again.)

- Mr. Terrific - I'll never understand why they built an episode around such a charmless, annoying character. He wasn't interesting, he wasn't entertaining, he was just grating. And his episode was stupid as hell.

I know people love her here, but I fucking hate the desk clerk at the hotel in the Grab that Dough episode. Her line readings are so ridiculously hammy I really have to wonder why the director didn't kick her in the clam.

Murray Gutman. I prefer more restricted company myself.

Rose's bitchy cunt daughter who practically disowned her because she thought Rose lost her father's money. Grade a cunt right there.

Rose's bitch daughter, the one who slept with Michael.

Max Weinstock. When those episodes come on I skip past them. God Jack Guilford is awful.

Marg-yoo-reet.

Is Rose’s daughter that everyone complains about the one played by Lee Garlington? I couldn’t stand her.

Granddaughter Charlie.

Those two skanks who set up Rose and Blanche at the mall trying to steal clothes.

Can we include the major characters we hate the most?

r33, Kirsten is the one who was played by Christine Belford the first time around (when she was a bitch to Rose about Charlie's will) and Garlington the second time (when she was a bitch to the girls after Rose's heart attack).

Daisy the Sunshine Cadet. Talk about a cunty Karen in the making.

Idk who the actress was but there was one they always trotted out for sad depressing stories...that one with the weird english-esque accents. I think she played 3 different roles in 3 different episodes, one more "very special" than the other. In one she wants to kill herself and asks Sofia to help her, in another she's stuck in a train station with Rose and was visiting her dead daughter, and in another one she's homeless. Though come to think of it, maybe she was supposed to be the same character abd if so, I chose her because she depressed the hell out of me.

r37, Geraldine Fitzgerald

Yup Fitzgerald wanted Sofia so watch her commit suicide

Every iteration of Kirsten; Dorothy's possible real parents and their daughter; Angela Vecchio (too much mugging).

Can we say ones we like? I think Michael Zbornak was sexy as fuck, I'd swallow his load any day. Especially when he had that porny stache, woof!

[quote]- Mammy Watkins, an entitled asshole who was nasty to Blanche right down to the end. "So we went through all this was for nothing!" "I wouldn't say for nothing." (Pained grimace as she waits to start squawking about her damn music box again.)

You beat me to it. Selfish bitch! She didn't care about Blanche she just wanted her music box ("my dumpling, my foot!")

R37 Sophia's friend who wants to kill herself (Martha) is the same actress as the woman in the bus station ("St. Olaf, has more idits per capita!"). But I don't think she played a 3rd, homeless character.

Maybe you're thinking of "Ida" (I think her name was) when they look for the Leather Jacket (Brother can you spare a dime) and Sophia tells her "people care, they really do!" and then never speaks to her again.

I liked Jake, the sexy caterer.

Wrong thread r43

Eat dirt and die, trash, R44.

Thread closed

Yvonne is a DL icon, R46, watchoo talkin' bout?

Rose’s stubborn sister who was afflicted with congenital “keeping my eyelids shut” blindness. Plus she sounded like she had just wandered in from teaching Sunday school in Biloxi.

R22, I always felt bad for that kid, since that was his real-life acne (he also played a geeky pimple-faced teen Sam leaped into on Quantum Leap). Was glad to find out he grew up well.

I kinda hated Stan. Granted,he could be funny but his pathetic schtick got old pretty quickly. I also couldnt stand Sophias brother Angelo.

I loved that the original Gloria was seemingly cast on the basis that she made Bea Arthur and Estelle Getty seem goyishe by comparison.

R37, R42 has it correct. Geraldine Fitzgerald played Martha in the episode “Not Another Monday” and Anna in “Mother’s Day”. The actress who played Ida (was her last name Perkins?) in the episode “Brother Can You Spare That Jacket?” was Herta Ware….why do I know this shit?

R30 Barbara, you're just jealous that his tux was more colorful than your dress.

Nan Martin played the infamous Freda Claxton and a few seasons later was the Silician woman who claimed that Dorothy had been switched at birth and that she was her real mother.

When Sophia dates Marvin and his “sister” Sarah. He had to be the worst actor on the show.

R37 I'm having the shrimp cocktail, cream of mushroom soup, asparagus with hollandaise sauce, and the filet mignon....

Michael was a very believable mix of Stan and Dorothy. The only one of the girl's kids written well imo.

What about David, Blanche’s grandson…played by Scott Jacoby (Michael’s) little brother?

To be clear, David was played by Billy Jacoby.

Stan’s Czech cousin, Magda Yitchinson. Oh wait, she was actually pretty funny. The way Stan nickeled and dimed her to death. I’m laughing now.

That awful Dr. Budd.

He dismissed me!!

Billy Jacoby

[quote] I hated Dr Jonathan Newman because he was a MIGET

oh DEAR!

I second Max Weinstock.

That crook with the bushy eyebrows who tried to screw Rose out of Charlie's pension.

Dorothy's annoying daughter when Dennis cheated on her. She was fug. I understood why he'd stray.

Dare I say it....flashbacks to Salvadore Petrillo!

Cousin Magda

Blanche's Desert Storm Pharmacist

Gloria Petrillo #1 (who tells people what their gifts are before they open them?!)

R60 Slurpy was like knives to head. But so fresh and fruit like, exactly like Vanna White!

Lyn Greene as flashback Dorothy was brilliant.

I must be the only one who doesn't feel that way.

What about that little bitch who was passing Rose and Dorothy in the girl scout scenes?

R47 you do realize she’s Flo from Alice, right?

Daisy is singer/songwriter Jenny Lewis.

There was the one girl scout who spoke her lines with her mouth opening so wide that she could have fitted the tent inside. She's the only girl scout who had any lines and was totally obnoxious.

It’s Yvonne and this is it!

[quote]Max Weinstock. When those episodes come on I skip past them. God Jack Guilford is awful.

You beat me to it. Guilford grates. Strangely enough, I really like him in "Catch-22" and "Something Funny Happened on the Way to the Forum."

So Yvonne is Caitlyn Jenner? Stunning and brave!

Yeah …. She’s Caitlyn. Sure.

Oy ! Talk about a duck mouth !

🦆

R71, Daisy/Jenny Lewis is the one who blackmailed Rose regarding the teddy bear. She was really great as a little bitch.

I'm talking about the other episode which involved a girl scout troop. This different terrible little actress was correcting Rose's ghost story at the makeshift campsite in the livingroom...and sassing back to Dorothy. She almost got to have more lines as the replacement Rose in the press conference responding to Gorbachev. She needed to be slapped!

Watching "Bedtime Story." I don't like the Appalappachobee train station guy, especially when he tries cunting at Dorothy about her nudist camp fantasy. The girls got away with that too much; you don't get to do that, you dumb hick.

Throw in that nasty bitch at Fidel's funeral. Who the fuck are you to insult a complete stranger, rando?

Get off Dorothy's back, jerks.

Has Miles's daughter Caroline really not been mentioned? I always thought she was one of the most hated one-off characters for making Rose feel bad. (Maybe she was retconned from people's memories like she was from the show.)

Any of the millions of people related to Blanche who had wildly inconsistent or just awful southern accents.

Jean the lesbian for giving up too quickly on seducing Rose when she clearly wanted it.

Burt Reynolds for the way he entered their house mugging at the audience.

The Epstein-Barr virus.

[quote] Max Weinstock. When those episodes come on I skip past them. God Jack Guilford is awful

Same - and it was Sophia at bed most annoying too.

R51 I always thought the same thing about cousin Angela, although according to this board she’s not even Jewish (which I find extremely hard to believe).

I LOVED cousin Magda. And also Stan’s mother.

Her*

R81 she wore clothing that covered every inch of her body and all of that crimped hair.

The kid who took the cat from Rose in the supermarket.

Mr. Terrific.

Fun trivia: Hilary Shepard, who played Yvonne, was a member of '80 band American Girls. They put out one album (long out of print), which is one of my favorites. Yvonne came after that.

My vote goes to Dick Van Dyke as the attorney who wanted to be a clown.

[quote] Throw in that nasty bitch at Fidel's funeral. Who the fuck are you to insult a complete stranger, rando?

She was also that lavender dragon Eulalie Griswold on Mamas Family.

And Schmitty on Newhart R90. Don Knotts was Iron.

And Stellllllllllla on Seinfeld R90.

I also liked Mrs. Beatty and thought she was very elegant.

Miles' musician daughter was a total cunt.

Fucking hate fake Priest Uncle Angelo and his awful accent. Plus he gets a cheap apartment from Dorothy then complains to the press about her?

Bonus: Aunt Angela was an annoying old goat-fucker too!

Stan’s brother played by McLean Stevenson was a total piece of shit.

Polly Holliday (Flo on Alice) as Rose's blind sister who didn't want to learn to do anything for herself. This was A Very Special Episode and it was depressing.

Dr Johnathan Newman

Dr. Newman was gay as a goose.

Why did no one, certainly Blanche, not call this out?

Dr Newman wanted to suckle Rose's big boobs

R99 because Blanche couldn’t even figure out the blinding light came from her very own, flaming brother CARLTON

CLAYTON

Oh yes! Thanks R102

All these nominees and we haven’t even touched Golden Palace.

R104 I don’t know who I dislike more: The chef or the receptionist.

Or maybe the annoying kid who was suddenly GONE

I can’t believe that Don Cheadle turned out to have talent.

Chuy Castillos was perhaps the most godawful supporting character in tv history.

[quote]Polly Holliday (Flo on Alice) as Rose's blind sister who didn't want to learn to do anything for herself. This was A Very Special Episode and it was depressing.

I never understood how first, Lily insists she's so independent she can even cook while blind. Then she does a 180 and says she can't live without Rose going back to Chicago to live with her and that's why she came to visit.

Nancy the hotel receptionist from the "Grab that Dough" episode. Hate her guts.

[quote]Polly Holliday (Flo on Alice) as Rose's blind sister who didn't want to learn to do anything for herself. This was A Very Special Episode and it was depressing.

I disliked that episode. Years ago, I think broadcast networks wanted to raise awareness regarding disabilities so they would do these episode with good intentions, but the episodes sometimes fell into the categories of being depressing, too cringeworthy, or too preachy.

The man with the long ugly eyebrows who wanted to rip Rose off

Can we just face it that, unlike Seinfeld, Golden Girls casting director was sub-par. The main actors were great, but the one episode actors were pretty bad. On Seinfeld, each actor was a gem -- as listed elsewhere -- from the Library Detective to the European Lady who Insisted on Smoking in the Elevator.

It’s like they had no budget until late in the run when we got big guest stars like Dick Van Dyke and Leslie Nielsen.

I'm guessing they attracted bigger names as the show's popularity grew.

They fucking had Freida Claxton bitch!

As a Brit, we laughed so hard when Rose tells Freida to kiss her fanny.

r104, "Golden Palace"? Why are you naming something that never existed?

Thank goodness this wonderful show didn't have a terrible spinoff. Something stupid like...a bunch of old women selling their beautiful home to work their asses off running a hotel, something none of them seemed capable of. What a terrible thing that would have been.

Good point, R116. If we refuse to acknowledge its existence, it loses its power.

Part of why I like the first season is because of the use of well-known character actors like Priscilla Morrell, Sheree North, Polly Holliday and Doris Belack. There was a real sense of putting effort into the guest roles. I thought the fifth season did this pretty well also. Both seasons had the most interesting character driven stories.

The budget for guest actors appeared to be low, as most of them were clearly inexperienced or just plain awful. The show is particularly notorious for its dreadfully executed fake accents from guests.

R118 what about Marguerite?? I believe that was season 3.

And it’s stunning how many times they used multiple actors in different roles. Maybe someone can tabulate it. I was like, these people aren’t that great for one episode let alone fucking with continuity to bring them back as other characters.

R120 Seasons 2-4 were great, but they are more slapstick like than anything.

Paula Kelly is a treasure.

I think one of the problems with Blind Ambitions was that it came from a freelancer and since the show was still in its first season he didn't know it that well. He was one of the Benson writers and in the Golden Girls Forever book he says the show had gotten so big so fast that the writers were trying to figure out what it was and had fallen behind. So he was invited to write a script. I'm sure they rewrote it, but there's only so much you can do with a story that's inherently dramatic.

I like Trudy, the one who pretended to drop dead during a tennis match with Dorothy. Great chemistry between those two.

I disagree r122. Seasons 2 and 3 are my personal faves of the series.

Seasons 2 & 3 were my favorites

Those Donaldson boys!

Blanche took on the Donaldson boys once. She tired them out.

[quote] I'm guessing they attracted bigger names as the show's popularity grew.

Um, the show was popular right out of the gate. It won best comedy its first two seasons. Any dried up actor over the age of 50 would've given their Ben Gay supply for a guest role.

I watched GG from beginning to end.I mainly tuned in at first because of Bea,but quickly fell in love with all of them. The last show I cried so hard my late husband got irked. I tried to make him understand that in all the years they were on,no matter how awful things were and no matter how bleak the future looked,I had them to look forward to. They comforted me.Still do. Ive seen them so much I can instantly know what episode it is from the opening scene.

I was a lonely 14 year old gayboy when GG aired. I watched it from the beginning as well.

My mother was always out dancing and singing in her band on Saturday nights when it aired and I recall being envious of her lifestyle and wanting to emulate that when I got older.

So my mother had never heard of golden girls and here I was the expert.

Flash forward to the late 90s and onward. I'm out dancing and singing all the time and traveling the world. My mother is now a retiree addicted to cable TV and she discovered the golden girls finally, as syndication really started to pick up.. I would come home to visit her and she would be watching this show and referring to it as if I'd never even heard of it. She was delighted to see me sitting with her and laughing along to the show with her. It became our bonding show and was that way until her death in 2020. In fact it was the last show we watched together before she went to the hospital. I even played the theme song at her funeral.

Rest in laughter Mumzie.

Blache's phantom foetus when was pushing 60.

The homosexual mink they were farming in their garage for fur money.

I was hoping Dr. Parks was homosexual but alas....

R131 glad you got to bond over it with your mum. My mother let me stay up to watch it with her in Friday nights (I think) when it aired in the UK in the 90s. Years later I bought her the dvds.

Blanche had a stone baby.

Blanche was a stone cold fox, baby...she was one sexy chick.

Enriqué Mas was sexy...I would have gone undercover with him any time.

Yes R138, but 18-19 year old Kid Pepe was a dud.

Most ridiculous casting in the entire series.

Did you like how an 80 something bought and trained a prize fighter. Happens all the time.

J’adore the toilet salesman plumber.

Swen was fire.

Billy the little red headed pansy football player Rose and Dorothy trained.

In contrast, Journey to the Center of Attention, my favorite episode (Top 5). Blanche drags homebody Dorothy to the Rusty Anchor, a dive bar with live entertainment (piano player). Unexpectedly, Dorothy has singing talent and takes over the bar.

Every single actor in the Rusty Anchor was great.

I hated the B-plot, though (Rose plans a "wake" for a still-alive Sophia but the invitees really think S is dead).

It's hard hearted Hannah, the vamp of Savannah, GA!

Better

Says you R139 ! I enjoyed every second of his lushly hairy chest !

Sure R147….but did you buy he was 18-19??? That’s as ridiculous as casting Meshach Taylor as a 27-28 year old on DW when he was 43 at the time. It’s lazy.

I used to attend a community theatre’s various productions throughout the year with my ex-partner. The “star” actress was the same in any role. I unabashedly referred to her as Phyllis Hammereaux.

I hated Rose’s mother. She dressed like it was 1909

R148 Honey,when Im staring at a handsome man with a hairy chest and wearing boxing shorts,the LAST thing on my mind is his age. Oh ! Just found out he died in 2021 . Cancer.He was 72. RIP Kid PePe (and your beautiful chest)

I didn’t like Curly Sue Blanch’s granddaughter Melissa.

Rose's mother was a pill, I know we were supposed to be on her side, but she wasn't particularly likable and I could have done without the story about the ex-con...

I always thought it was interesting when they changed the actress that played the daughters as it seemed that they wanted them to be very different from the previous one. The first Kerstin was elegent and togther, the second one seemed like she crawled out of a trailer park. With the two Becky's were we just supposed to forget the obesity issue and the abusive relationship? The two Kate's were pretty unmemorable, though the second one seemed to get a lot of tv work in the 1980s, but as somebody else mentioned she was basically an off-brand Didi Conn.

I hated Mr. Terrific with a passion. The actor must have begged someone to help him keep his SAG health insurance.

"The actor" who played Mr. Terrific was the wonderful Bob Dishy, with countless stage and screen credits to his name. It was a bizarre episode, but I wouldn't blame him.

The Donatello Triplets- The Neutron Dance never sat right with me.

Jake Smollens, Blanche’s caterer boyfriend, it wasn’t believable that he would be single.

Eduardo the hairdresser. “Well, my dear, in many respects, styling hair is like making love. To do it well, one must have trust, respect, and a chair you can pump up and down.”

Rose spawned off some bitches. Dorothy's second daughter was a pain in the ass (the one that played April with Ted Knight) and Michael couldn't decide if he wanted Daddy's mustache or not.

R156 didn't Eduardo also direct the community theater with Blanche's water bra?

R153 "off brand Didi Cohn" made my evening

Eduardo aka the theatre director man-slut was also Cecil Colby on Dynasty and In real life spawned hot Jew and star of Supergirl Hart Bochner.

I just watched an episode of the spin off that dares not speak its name and Ned Beatty played Blanche's mentally challenged (and never before mentioned) brother, Tad. The entire episode was cringe and they threw around the R word like M&M's. Times have changed.

Oh, R161, we recently saw that episode, too. It was like Rosie in the reviled Riding the Bus with My Sister.

Ned was quite earnest, but it’s hard to dumb down without it being cringe-worthy.

The ugly fug dude in the shelter with his mind on Blanche’s purse.

This guy.

Call me frida Klaxton, but I always hated that joke, R164. Name jokes are the laziest writing imaginable -why not just name him Tampon Princess or Mr. Googleboogle if all you want is a laugh.

I watch the Max Weinstock episodes with a big box of cracker jacks. I'd have pineapple, but it would give me gas.

r164/r165, those writers certainly did love that joke though. They went on to create the notorious bomb/Civil War comedy The Secret Diary of Desmond Pfeiffer, using the same pronunciation.

Sweet story, SueEllen (r131)! 🤗❤

R165's last name is Pfeiffer.

I hate that guy who rubs the old people's home Sophia is the supposed Activities Director for. So cranky, cliched and bitter.

Oh god, that holy c@nt of a daughter that Rose has that gets all pissy because she thinks Rose left her with nothing when her father was really to blame.

Also, I dont remember the name of the actresses but she plays like 2/3 roles, but they were always about needy old ladies, the most memorable one being the one that wanted to kill her self.......I have to say, I hate that episode, I live for watching dark, heavy realistic dramas but when I watch the Golden Girls I want fluff, albeit intelligent, witty fluff, I dont need the image of Sophia sitting around while her friend sticks her head in an oven or something.

That fucker from the nudist resort who insulted our girls by requesting they remain dressed for all three meals. Nasty piece of trash

I didn't care for Sophia's fake mobster boyfriend played by Mickey Rooney, that might have had less to do with the character and more with Mickey Rooney who bugs majorly in most things I've seen him.

I never liked his old ass