Who Is Responsible For Vegan At Dinner Party - Vegan Guest or Host?

Stay home and don’t be a godamned burden.

Stop throwing dinner parties if you want to fight with your guests.

jesus, potatoes? salad? are you a cunt?

I’m a vegetarian, not vegan, but I voted to make do. I’ve done it many times.

It’s a dinner party, not a restaurant.

A vegan, an atheist, and a crossfitter walk into a bar . . .

I only know this because they announced it to everyone there within two minutes.

A good guest will make do, and a good host will try to at least have some of the food suitable for a vegan guest

If you're inviting people to dinner, you should ask their eating situations before you ever set the menu.

What r6 said.

If I'm hosting and I have knowledge that my friend who I want to include is a vegan, I'll prepare or pick up a vegan dish to serve to them.

If you've invited vegan guests, you provide vegan options for the guest. If you don't know a guest is vegan and they just tell you when they show up, it's not the host's fault and the vegan will have to make do. Hopefully with no fuss.

If it’s a close friend or family member, the host should at least try to accommodate the guest. Somebody’s random plus-one or cousin you haven’t seen in years? No. Hope they like salad and crudités.

I'm glad that men are being compensated for being raped by other men in prison.

All men who are sexually abused in prison deserve compensation.

Vegetarian is fine, but a vegan complicates everything. I'm thankful the times I've had people over for dinner I've never had to worry about that nonsense.

That said, if you knowing invite someone who is vegan for dinner you have to make vegan shit for them.

I’m also vegetarian and not vegan, but I think it depend, OP. If you’re inviting someone over you know is vegan/vegetarian/has a shellfish allergy, then I think you should provide them with something they can eat. If you don’t want to do that, simply don’t invite them in the first place.

If it’s a friend’s random date/plus one then you shouldn’t feel obligated, even if they warn you about their dietary restrictions ahead of time.

so, you can't make any palatable food without animal products, r12?

What say the Prune Lord?

prunes are vegan.

Jesus, wrong thread! Sorry.

Completely depends on the situation for the dinner party and who the guests are.

Let's put it this way, if it's a dinner party for your boss and his wife is a vegan, you all damn well know you'd make the fanciest vegan dinner you could muster.

Part of being a gracious host is being, you know, gracious. You make reasonable accommodations for your guests to make them feel welcome. If you aren't interested in making guests feel welcome in your home, don't have guests in your home.

You also have to account for food allergies, gluten free and dairy free. I will always ask if anyone has any food restrictions and come up with a menu to accommodate everyone. So much easier to go to a restaurant.

Sorry, R13 -If you know in advance that a guest has a dietary restriction hospitality demands you accommodate it, whether they are a friend, a relative, or a plus-one. If you aren't a confidant cook, just ask the person what they enjoy eating. Ignoring their needs is just plain rude.

If the person was a last-minute addition and you didn't know, you should still ask what you might have on hand that they would enjoy eating. If you can't be a gracious host, don't invite people over.

Any rational human being who knows that you would have no way of knowing about their specific food requirements would not expect you to magically have food that suits them r20. They would probably just bring something or eat before coming.

I've been vegetarian for 40 years, vegan the 15 years of that. I've always maintained that I need to be responsible for what I eat, I can't expect the world to change just for my desires and choices. Part of being a vegan is developing the skill to adjust to what is available. I have found that some host/hostesses like the "challenge"

Having said that, a couple other ideas:

If possible, the host needs to know. It's sort of rude to surprise the host with "no, I can't eat that." But only if the exchange information is casual. If asked.

Idea #2: the world is burning up, generations to come are really, really going to suffer in the world we leave them (not to mention fauna and flora). The greatest single thing you can do to lower your carbon footprint is to go vegan. Even vegetarianism with dairy etc., has a much, much higher carbon footprint. (Patience, here's the idea); "being" vegan creates pressures on culture, systems/economies to accommodate and encourage more veganism. Being an insufferable pain in the ass can actually have a moral outcome.

r21 is a retarded carnivore.

regarding r22:

i used to have to go to certain stores for veggie burgers.

30 years later is is ubiquitous.

A polite guest would ask whether the host could accommodate their lifestyle choice of being a vegan. If the host apologizes and says "no" then the guest should decline the invitation.

If the host agrees, then it's incumbent on the host to provide an inviting meal, not just slap something together.

If the host was never informed, then there would have been no way to prepare in advance and no fault should be leveled at the host for lack of hospitality.

Why has no one suggested the vegan should just use the opportunity to eat a nice thick steak for a change?

I recently gave a dinner for a group that included two vegetarians and one vegan. The menu:

Leek and potato soup (vegan), with cream at the table for those who wanted it to spoon in. There was also a choice of fresh dill or cilantro to sprinkle on top.

Sourdough baguette, with or without butter

Mixed green salad with homemade vinaigrette (vegan)

Ratatouille, served on a bed of polenta (made with dairy and fresh parmesan) or couscous (vegan)

For dessert, a homemade pound cake with fresh berries and whipped cream (wish sherry) -or just a bowl or ripe berries for the vegans (sherry optional)

Everyone enjoyed the meal, and no one left hungry. The only thing extra I had to do was boil some water for the couscous, and leave some items on the side for people to help themselves at table. I do not understand why people make such a fuss about serving vegetarians or vegans!

I don't invite vegans and if they slip in I simply make sure the calf-brain tartlets are passed their way several times.

is yeast vegan, r27?

I think the host should do their best to accommodate the vegan. But then to bellow—after a few too many glasses of wine—what a hassle it was to make a special meal for the pain in the ass.

I’m certain this is the only correct answer to the question.

salad is so hard.

[quote] Idea #2: the world is burning up, generations to come are really, really going to suffer in the world we leave them (not to mention fauna and flora). The greatest single thing you can do to lower your carbon footprint is to go vegan. Even vegetarianism with dairy etc., has a much, much higher carbon footprint. (Patience, here's the idea); "being" vegan creates pressures on culture, systems/economies to accommodate and encourage more veganism. Being an insufferable pain in the ass can actually have a moral outcome.

Proof yet again why everyone hates vegans so much. It is impossible to be a quiet vegan, apparently (unlike being a quiet vegetarian).

I sincerely doubt vegans are ever going to save the planet by annoying people.

they are on an anon message board and not at dinner, hyperbolic r32

R32 Cheer up Dolores. Have you ever tasted vegan cum? Shut up and suck it....

If you invite a person who keeps kosher, what do you do? I assume you try to accommodate the person. Same thing.

My uncle grew up on a poultry farm, and subsequently cannot stand fowl of any kind. So I don't cook/serve him any. Basic courtesy, like asking if your guests like spicy foods, or garlic, or...

You don't have to cook a separate meal for vegetarian/vegan guests -just make the whole meal for them. The rest of the guests can give up meat for one meal.

[quote]or garlic

Someone asking me to cook without garlic is a demand worse the veganism.

I thought we made them bring their own food and eat that filth outside alone on the swinging bench while everyone inside laughs and laughs.

If you’re the host, try to ask up front so you can plan ahead, but it often adds to the experience and makes everyone appreciative that you took a moment to think about all your guests. Plus many vegan dishes are easy and make great sides to complement traditional food.

Vegans are often lesbians. Let them eat pussy.

Of course it's kind to accommodate guests, but it's up to the person with the food restriction to make do. When I was vegetarian, I didn't like being offered special alternatives.

Imagine a (quite likely these days) situation in which there's a vegetarian, a vegan, a no-gluten person, a keto person--you can't make everyone happy. The point is to get together and enjoy each other's company, not to have one's personal wishes catered to.

I'm a veg, don't expect my host to cater to my dietary requirements. When invited, I either bring a dish or two along for myself and anyone else who may wish to partake or make do with whatever non-meat/fish/chicken/egg dishes are offered.

That situation sounds like the set-up of an old joke, R41! The dinner menu I posted above was already set for vegetarian and vegan. The no-gluten person would have to skip the bread, but was otherwise accommodated. The meal could handle a keto diet easily -ratatouille is fine, and instead of serving it on a bed of polenta or rice, it could be served on a bed of eggs (fried or scrambled) and topped with fresh shaved parmesan.

I love to cook, and I love it when people enjoy my food. While I wouldn't want to have to adjust every meal to so many variations of diet, it's really not so difficult, and I enjoy the extra bit of challenge. The first rule of hospitality is to make every guest feel welcome, and you can't do that by preparing a first-class meal for the other guests, with little or nothing for them. If all else fails, host a potluck where everyone brings something they can eat, or agree on a restaurant.

Most decent hosts can manage to rustle up a glass of water, OP.

I show them to the garden while the rest of us eat inside.

We have to entertain quite a bit for work at home. Haven't had vegan, but I always ask about dietary restrictions. Easy, breezy. It's not that hard- so I make a baked ziti, no sausage as a side. I remember a post on Chowhound with multiple dietary restrictions and I said find new friends.

Work is different. Friends, well we wouldn't be.

If you invite someone to dinner in this day and age without first scoping out if there are any dietary troublemakers, that's all on you.

The vegan should bring its own meal in a tupperware container unless it is willing to eat what is served.

R40 pussy is fish. So true vegans can't eat it. A lezbian vegan who eats pussy is a fraud.

Fuck them. Right up the ass. Stay home if you are such a delicate flower.

I have peanuts in the pantry - bring your epi pen.

Never invite vegans. They are all boring as hell and fucking neurotic.

I banish vegans from my home, so this topic is moot. They can eat weeds from the garden and from the cracks in the sidewalk for all I care.

Now now, you guys are just being dramatic. You know what to do. You were all well brought up. You know what good manners are.

Flexibility on all sides is good. The vegan can find dishes to eat at most meals, even if just plain baked potato, and a host can (and should anyway) ask about dietary restrictions. What host would like to be responsible for killing a guest with a hidden shrimp or peanut? There are about 15 varieties of grains, about 40 varieties of legumes, potatoes, sweet potatoes, carrots, beets, turnips, parsnips, and rutabagas, and all varieties of nuts.. All of these can be the basis for one or more side dishes that would be vegan. Pasta and peas, rice and beans, cornmeal and beans, oatmeal with soymilk, quinoa, barley, millet, buckwheat, teff, wheat in the form of bread, bulgur, farro, pasta, farina. Lima beans, soybeans, mung beans, kidney beans, pinto beans, garbanzo beans, black-eyed peas, navy beans, cannelini beans, winged beans, pigeon peas, crowder peas, lentils, fava beans, peanuts. Although some of these would be unfamiliar to most Americans, there are lots of others on this list that are standard fare in every part of the country.

[quote] If you invite a person who keeps kosher, I assume you try to accommodate the person. Same thing.

R35 A person who keeps kosher would not accept an invitation to a dinner party at someone who does not keep kosher. Your accommodation assumption is erroneous.

Guests should eat what is served and be grateful they were even invited. Or they are welcome to leave.

R54, you are long winded, boring and can eat my ass. It's vegan..

These vegans remind me of a certain daughter that tried my patience. They'll eat what I serve them and be grateful!

Vegans are insufferable.

Pigeon peas?

Sorry, plum out!

So of the insufferables posting on this thread: 98% anti-vegan, 2% vegan.

In years past we used to understand simple courtesies. Now no-one has proper breeding. It's a harsh, selfish, angry world now... I mean look at our politics.

MAGA dinner parties uber alles apparently.

[quote] MAGA dinner parties uber alles apparently.

OR those "liberals" shrieking "How dare you post something I don't agree with! How DARE you!"

"Or should the Vegan make due"

Really, OP?

If you know someone is vegan and you want to included them, then you provide food they can eat. If you don't want to be bothered with dietary restrictions of vegans then just don't invite them.

This poll is 50-50

Ask a vagitarian.

My sister-in-law and nephew are 90% vegan, but she realizes that it is difficult to socialize for one thing - especially with a teenager going out to eat with friends. Their week spot is cheese. But they both break down occasionally and will eat a little bit of anything.

She's a nutritionist, so knows how to manage a healthy diet. A lot of vegans do not.