Could the explosion in online sex work especially Onlyfans/Justforfans help explain the great labour shortage ?

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The vast majority of the performers on OF and other similar platforms aren't bringing in big money, since that's reserved for the very top percentile only. And even those usually can't sustain the same level of income for long periods of time without intensive collaborations that require travelling all over the world.

Most of these performers have regular jobs and the top earners usually work as escorts as well. So no, definitely not a explanation for the great labour shortage. If anything, it's a great redistribution of wealth from less attractive people to more attractive ones.

[quote]My str8 buddy is a alpha foot master

Alone on camera, or with his slaves?

r3 Yes but while you make some good points I wonder if they are doing other jobs part time rather than fulltime because of the money they make from onlyfans? Enough people doing that will certainly create a labour shortage.

Maybe this is a situation more applicable to the UK were lower paid peoples jobs and earnings are tied to the universal credit allowance? A situation were people are allowed to work so many hours at a certain level of earnings before their universal credit is stopped? The welfare system in the US seems quite different.

But the key question to your point is the vast majority of what number? If say 750,000 people work as online sex workers to some degree and 600,000 of them have other regular jobs that leaves 150,000 people out of the usual workforce to make money from porn .That is a lot of people still and enough to contribute to labour shortages.

I wonder what else lays behind the labour shortages?

What labor shortage?

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R4 - I think in the US, it's the unprecedented percentage of young people living at home. It's at a higher level than even the Depression. They can job hop more or nope the fuck out of toxic work environments.

Baby boomers are retiring - the peak birth year for US Baby Boom was 1957 - making them 65 years old. Then you have low birth rates since the 2000's - there's not a huge amount of people under 25 vying for low-wage jobs.

Then several hundred thousand working-age people died in the pandemic.

It's definitely not OnlyFans - there are so many people taking off their clothes, you have to be really special in order to make decent money there.

[quote] a huge profilation

a huge proliferation

I think OF is already on the decline. I, like many, began subscribing to performers during the pandemic. I’ve stopped most of those subscriptions as the content got stale. I receive many promos for these performers offering discounts. Some of these performers weren’t offering discounted subscriptions before and now they’re consistently offering them. I’ll click their profile out of curiosity and see that the promo started 2 days ago and only 30 have been sold. One of the most annoying performers I subscribed to - he really treated his OF like a serious career - now offers discounted subscriptions AND has turned to escorting. I live in LA and know a few guys who have OF accounts and they were spending wildly during 2020 and 2021, their spending has come down a bit this year.

r9 So you think the bubble is bursting or at least starting to deflate and OF is past its peek?

r8 My bad .Apologies and thank you

r7 Thanks for your detailed reply.You raise some interesting points.for instance I had always assumed that the peak baby boom years were 1946 -1949 when couples started mating much more after the significant interruption of World war two.

Do you see the labour shortage ending anytime soon?

R11 - no, because - at least in the US - the states with the greatest labor shortage are some of the most populous and expensive areas to live.

Cities (particularly large cities) are generating over 90% of new jobs. Those jobs require grocery stores, restaurants, shopping, etc - and the cost of living in these areas is extremely difficult for younger people to live.

I don't see how anyone can up and move to a big city as a young person anymore without significant amount of financial help - and a ready place to rent a room in an apartment. And make poor wages on top of that - it's not really possible to live unless you're already from there and live with parents/friends already.

Rents in the US have skyrocketed in the past year - they're up 45% in Miami and almost 30% where I live in SoCal. How are you going to attract young people in these supporting job roles to the larger economies?

Youtube has become the gateway to OnlyFans. Just a tease.

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It also advertises on Pornhub.

R13 Dominick is selling 50% off now.

Here in the UK much of the labour shortage is down to Brexit (Ignorant voters before Brexit: “How dare they come over here and take our jobs?!” Ignorant voters after Brexit: “How dare they not come over here and take our jobs!!”). With the economy tanking and people struggling to buy food, I imagine Onlyfans will be one of the first things people unsubscribe to, particularly when porn is free across the internet.

Interestingly there was an actress on a soap called Hollyoaks who left (or was fired from) the role she’d been doing for about twenty years in order to do Onlyfans. She isn’t that young so I’ve no idea what she was thinking trading an acting career for being an online whore.

It's only going to get worse in the UK as the birth rate declined even more in the 1960's because of birth control and abortion.

My primary (elementary) school year/class had 18 children in it. That school eventually closed because of the lack of kids.

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r17 I thought the UK birth rate had a bounce back k for a few good years at the turn of the millennium?

It was a bounce back from a very low point and the millennial generation all went to university, they aren't going to be doing shit jobs that where the shortages of staff are.

r20 So you think the Labour shortage will be with us for at least a decade then?

Nobody wants to work because you get paid like shit compared to executives getting 10mil+ a year and them getting 2mil+ bonuses for making terrible decisions for the company, its customers/patients, and its workers. AND people have absolutely been gradually losing their minds since Trump lost and COVID.

I have a friend who was a bedside nurse for a few years until 2021. She said 2020 was the sharpest turn in patient attitude/decorum she has ever seen, and that while abusive patients did happen prior, it was more of a "there's 1-2 on each 30 bed floor" at a time. She said it went from having maybe 1 abusive patient in a 6 patient load every couple weeks or so to a third of the floor being massive pieces of entitled shits who think they know best at one time. Even personally I have seen way more entitled people at restaurants and stores trying to argue or fight with a clerk/waiter/cashier/manager compared to before. People have forgotten how to act in public and all the bullies and abusers are more open than every before.

R21 It'll with the UK forever if immigration policy remains the same, but it will be acute as the boomer generation age.

You only have to look at Japan to see our future.

It you are young, well-built and handsome, I say go for it. If you are getting naked and your cock is hanging heavy, why not make some money from it. It's not stable income, but you can start saving for your retirement with those proceeds, or maybe be able to buy a car without a lease or a loan, or quickly pay off those credit cards you used so carelessly when you were younger.

You may find a future professional employer who admires your moxie for doing it. I wasted too many years worrying about what's next in my life. I can't get that time back. Enjoy your life so you have tales to share when you, too, are elderly.

R21 The UK birthrate has fallen from 1.93 to 1.53 children in 10 years, the labour shortage will be even worse in 20 years time.

r23 do you think the government will try to encourage its population to have more kids to counteract it? Maybe economic incentives or state funding of cryopreserving of fertility up to a point so career woman dont miss the boat in particular?

No, OP.

r27 What do you think is happening then? UK papers and websites are full of stories of people quitting regular jobs to make porn for onlyfans etc

There's a big slump right now in porn subscriptions (started around March) probably due to the time of year as well as worldwide inflation, so the market is not as good as it has been the last several years. And unless you are doing specific fringe fetish porn or are someone like Kieran Warner, you will be entering a VERY saturated market. So while you can still make money doing it, the days of making it big (again unless you are Kieran Warner) are likely past.

At best it's a nice little way to earn some extra money for people who already have jobs, but they likely won't be quitting them anytime soon.

Not r23 but R28 a lot of people retired early or changed careers/jobs. Some went back to university. And since we are being pushed into a possible recession due to attempts to curb inflation, companies have started tightening their hiring again so I expect the job market is already cooling off.

There isn't any one big reason I don't think, there's a handful of them.

Of course the industry that consistently makes staffing mistakes is the airline industry, and their jerking everyone around during the pandemic and using their employees as leverage to get what are essentially grants from the government led directly to the current mess that is air travel around the world. That will take awhile to correct.

In the UK the airline industry also pay terrible wages, most of the cabin crew can earn more working in a supermarket.

Pretty much the same for all of the Swiissport staff who run the ground services.

Hey, old fat fart boomers can be on OF too.

Think you'll find good number of OF or whatever content creators also are employed (by someone else or self), thus have other sources of income. Case in point would be DL faves Dr. Neighbors and Nick Topel.

In the US the only way that many jobs are able to afford an expensive metro areas is due to the construction of affordable housing through federal tax credits. These credits allow both for profit and nonprofit developers to build housing with restricted rents that are affordable generally at below 60% of median income based on family size. Without this the typical worker we see in our local pharmacies, retail stores, food markets and even teachers to name a few qualify for this housing.

I completely retired during lockdowns in the UK.

I was heading that way before as I didn't need the money (couple of mortgage free houses) and enough In the bank to last me two lifetimes.

So at 52 that was It, wonder how many more people are like me?

The only labor shortage that Onlyfans has created is in escorts and masseurs.

There used to be a lot more who advertised who were a lot more attractive. All the guys have switched to Onlyfans, rather than escorting or doing the rub-and-tug.

R36 I think that's more due to the pandemic.

r36 You have tried to make a booking?

[quote] Could the explosion in online sex work especially Onlyfans/Justforfans help explain the great labour shortage ?

No. Because your average workforce person isn’t sexy enough to attract an audience and sustain a channel.

Only the top 10% of onlyfans creators make any money at all, and only the top 1% make a living wage. That's 15,000 people. Those kind of figures aren't affecting the job market anywhere.

r40 The numbers doing it part time might impact the jobs market. A lot of people working part time and topping up their income with onlyfans means on aggregate available labour is down.

This entire premise is ridiculous. The amount of people doing this and making any type of considerable income is a tiny drop in the bucket that wouldn't move the dial even slightly. OP is living in a fantasy world based on his myopic delusion, fueled by overconsumption of gay media (including DL), social media, porn, etc, that this is some sort of widespread movement.

r42 Wrong on a number of points . For a Starr onlyfans isn't just about gay porn and nowhere have I suggested it is Secondly people working part time instead of full-time say in the service sector that is experiencing labour shortages eg as a waiter or in a coffee shop and supplementing their income with onlyfans etc. Enough people doing that could have a labour shortage effect. My argument does not rest on people being high earners on onlyfans making a considerable sum. It doesn't require many to be raking it in for my theory to hold. I suspect it is more common than you think in my local gay pub I have met 4 gay lads who are working on onlyfans. One a part time car mechanic and part time onlyfans and two of the others onlyfans is their main or only job. I am not on lots of gay media. You are making assumptions there.