Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade, eliminating constitutional right to abortion

it's really true. Hillary wouldn't have nominated those cunts on the court. her nominees might have stalled in a GOP led congress but none of the cunts on the court now would have even made it that far

CUNTS!

Look. This is wrong. But let’s stop acting like it’s not possible to avoid getting pregnant.

Welp the libs pushed too hard and this is the result.

I wish I had aborted R3.

American women should never vote Republican for any political position again.

I never thought I’d see this happen in my lifetime, yet, here we are.

LGBTQs are next. One by one, each and every progress women and LGBTQs have made, will be reversed.

But I suppose emails and misogyny are more important than basic, human rights.!

I’m a liberal but I actually agree with r4. I’ve said this in the past. You have to take things slowly. When you try pushing too hard at once they will start pushing back even harder.

Same-sex marriage is next.

[quote]But let’s stop acting like it’s not possible to avoid getting pregnant.

Clarence Thomas writes in his concurring opinion that the Court should also reconsider its opinion on contraception ... as well as its opinions on same-sex rights.

R7 abortion is not a basic human right

Yes. Everyone knows Republicans have been desperate to erase gays rights ever since Obama made gay marriage legal.

Fuck each and every one of the God damned weak, lazy and useless democratic politicians. They sat back while the republicans worked DAY AND NIGHT for the past 40 years to chip away at Roe v Wade

This is all on the democrats and that fucking cunt ruth bader cuntsburg. I hope she rots in hell. Power hungry cunt

The gays are next. And the democrats will sit back and watch. That's all they know how to do

Just anal sex for everyone from now on

Simmer down, people. You know very well if the right didn't exist in 1787, you certainly can't enjoy it in 2022.

R11 - what in your mind is a basic human right. I would think choosing if, when, and how you procreate would be one of the most fundamental rights.

We're fucked.

Now Sue Cunt Sarandonistas are blaming Ginsburg for 3 new shitasses on the Supreme Court.

You have the right to vote for Hillary, but you didn't. Fucking blame yourself, cunts.

[quote]But let’s stop acting like it’s not possible to avoid getting pregnant.

Clarence Thomas wrote in his opinion that the court should reconsider making birth control illegal, so let's just stop pretending like this is no big deal because women can just get on the pill. We're a year or two out from the country allowing states to ban the sale of birth control altogether.

If they can declare uteruses the property of the State, they can tell you what you can and can’t do with your Speedo area, friend.

[quote]I would think choosing if, when, and how you procreate would be one of the most fundamental rights.

Not on this forum, where most posters regularly daydream about how great it would be if they could sterilize certain people they dislike, and prevent everyone in the world from having children unless they passed a litany of written exams.

The only thing that can solve this is lots and lots of violence.

American white women are too stupid to vote for their rights.

[quote][R7] abortion is not a basic human right

it can be argued that basic medical care is though, and abortion providers provide basic medical care.

The word "abortion" is nowhere to be found in the constitution thus it was never a constitutional right.

Fox News updated this and in the comment section there are tons of white women celebrating this

It’s the end of times

Not if you manage to escape, R27.

[quote]The word "abortion" is nowhere to be found in the constitution thus it was never a constitutional right.

Neither are the words "concealed carry" but the Court was more than willing to extend that right to New Yorkers yesterday.

On CNN, they just compared this to the Prohibition amendment, which had to be repealed later.

[quote]This is all on the democrats and that fucking cunt ruth bader cuntsburg. I hope she rots in hell. Power hungry cunt

Calm down, Mary. You really think if RBG retired Obama wouldn’t have put another Justice in her place that would’ve been in the minority ruling on this? It would’ve made no difference at all.

r21 or the power of pink pussy hats and attaching grrl power to everything while cosplaying as extras in the handmaid's tale... it was so effective, this is the power of change. Why build up when you pray for power to trickle down...

But look at the bright side, maybe, just maybe Ashley Judd will finally leave the U.S.

I. HATE. REPUBLICANS!

Stupid American rednecks.

I do too

like this is no big deal because women can just get on the pill.

The vast majority of abortions in my country are caused by contraception failure, probably the same anywhere, so the whole point is moot. Unless the moron upthread advocates for women to stop having sex unless they want a child ? Ridiculous.

Lmao Spectrum News 1 just pointed out it’s still legal in most of Europe if you need an abortion

And stop blaming Hillary for not forcefully campaigning enough as it's your fucking responsibilty to vote "for your interests" no matter what.

Yes, fuck Jill Stein voters. Fuck them. Arrogant protest votes!!!

So what’s the plan to deal with this Court? Unless a couple of conservative justices drop dead when there’s a Dem president and Dem senate, for the next 20-30 years we’re stuck with a radical right wing court that is focused on rolling back constitutional rights and turning this country into a conservative Christian theocracy, not to mention a court that will undoubtedly strike down any major legislative or executive achievement by a Democratic president.

The Democratic leadership doesn’t seem to be interested in any of the ideas that have been put forward (adding justices to the court, stripping the court of its power of judicial review, finding evidence that Kavanaugh committed perjury during his confirmation hearings and charging him in Federal court with lying to Congress, etc.). So if they aren’t going to do any of those things, what’s their fucking plan? We can’t just spend 30 years bitching about this nut job court as they strip away one right after another.

This has been planned for over 50 years. Same with what’s happening in every city. You think this inflation is accidental? This was planned.

Anyone who argues it’s RGB’s fault has no fucking clue. She would have had to retire in 2014. Do you really think McConnell was going to give Obama a SC pick after Repukes took the Senate?

Actually, it's Ruth Bade Ginsburg's fault.

If she had retired when she was begged to, the court wouldn't have been this one-sided.

[Bold] R38 = Total moron !

[Quote] And stop blaming Hillary for not forcefully campaigning enough

^^^ Fucktard

Women should pull a Lysistrata. No safe abortions, no sex. Or, at least, reproductive sex. Plenty of other options.

I’d never thought I’d say this, but some of us are going to have to start considering where else we can live and GTFO.

I’m positive that LGBTQ rights are next, and I’m not sure I can continue living in a country like this.

Many of us cannot afford to leave, me included. However, I speak another language fluently, and can get by in French and Italian, pretty well. Not excellent, but good enough to survive and work elsewhere.

Perhaps we will need to start a fund for those of us who can contribute elsewhere. I’m not sure. But I just don’t know if many of us are going to be able to make it in a country where the MINORITY rules us, and turns our country into something resembling an era from the 1930s to 1950s.

Surely, I’m not alone in feeling this way.

I hope Ashley Judd stays and R32 leaves.

R31 you're lousy at MATH. If there was RBG Obama replacement on the court now it would be one conservatard less stacked.

[quote]So what’s the plan to deal with this Court?

The plan was to stop Trump from becoming president, but a few too many people dropped the ball on that one.

R37, abortion has been decriminalized in Mexico. Fucking Mexico. Women in Texas have already been going there for abortions.

Birth Control? You've got to be a mouth breathing moron to not know that is next, and they can do two things at once: Oberfell.

There IS NO “constitutional right” to abortion. There never was. There should be legislation allowing it, but there was never a “Constitutional right” to it. Sorry ladies, but you don’t get to make your own laws just by telling us the right exists. Now work for LEGISLATION or STFU.

Also the .”both sides are essentially the same” fools. Fuck off.

Lots of disgusting assholes on this thread who are coming hard from this. I would tell you to go fuck yourselves but you are clearly already doing that.

Well this is going to end in tears.

Just wondering out loud here, but I do have to wonder what the end game of all this is. How do the Republicans profit off of a population beaten down by a bad economy, lack of education, and vast limitation of personal rights? At some point, a culture can become so oppressive that it affects its profitability, and we know all the Republicans care about is money.

I'm a Canadian and this is beyond belief. Your country is going backwards instead of forward. This could not happen in Canada which is a more balanced, common sense nation. Only in America! I strongly predict that at some point this new decision by the US Supreme Court will be repealed. It has to be if you want your country to remain civilized.

R24 some would argue that baby killing is not a basic human right

[quote]How do the Republicans profit off of a population beaten down by a bad economy, lack of education, and vast limitation of personal rights?

the present form of the GOP definitely benefits form an ill-informed electorate

R58 in Canada you can be executed for misgendering someone.

[quote][R24] some would argue that baby killing is not a basic human right

they could, but it would be a false comparison. apples and oranges, my young friend

Like conservatives give a fuck about children! FUCK CONSERVATIVES!!!!!

Clarence Thomas is the WORST Justice on the Supreme Court and there should be some means of getting rid of him. He's useless!!!

The SC justices are the most woke and anti-racist of all, greatly increasing the number of babies of color.

The Dems open border attitude will backfire. Future voters of America are largely from Catholic cultures and often wind-up voting Republican

[quote]This could not happen in Canada which is a more balanced, common sense nation.

Ah yes Canada, home to Adam Laboucan, convicted child rapist who got breast implants in prison— paid for by taxpayers.

Ah. I wondered why the Canadian troll showed up, his post was such a non sequitur, but now I see his post was merely a set-up for an anti-trans troll response.

Pelosi...putting on an act of being upset, saying, "we will continue to fight the good fight."......what fucking good fight!?? Fucking Democrats are not fighters and have let us down! Fuck all politicians.

You stupid fucks talking about baby murder aren't fooling anyone. You don't give a flying fuck about babies. You are obsessed with controlling and punishing women. Fuck you very much.

R68 The REAL goal was to get a comment from you about "anti-trans" trolls. Mission accomplished. 😎

The chipping away of rights for everyone. Today, it's women...next will be gays and trans, next maybe senior citizens with SS and Medicare...next Hispanics, and it goes on. This will affect everyone in some way...they way repubs are going with removing hard won rights. Some idiots just don't get it...

*the way...^^

Have I mentioned how much I hate Republicans? I do! I DESPISE them!

[quote]The Dems open border attitude will backfire.

another straw man argument from the right

[quote]Fucking Democrats are not fighters and have let us down! Fuck all politicians.

want to write a song to those lyrics, because that is all you'll get out of it.

R72 This Night Won't Last Forever, as the song says. At some point in the future common sense and normalcy will prevail. Things will settle down - they always do.

It may take a generation or two, though R77.

[quote][R31] you're lousy at MATH. If there was RBG Obama replacement on the court now it would be one conservatard less stacked.

Oh, wonderful. So it would’ve been a 5-4 decision instead of a 6-3. That’s great!

You fucking moron.

I wonder if the conservative justices will leave on extended trips abroad this summer.

R62 your response is worthy of Jean-Karine Pierre😁😛😁☺️😁😍😁

I wonder how many tax dollars are going to protect the Justices right now. I imagine more than I will make in a lifetime.

This doesn't stop abortion. Lots of states are stepping up and making it clear that they will be safe havens for women who need abortions.

So I guess you people crying about baby murder still have work to do lol.

it's hardly surprising the people living in echo chambers are the ones most upset by it here.. .

r57 the nature of the primary parites is to reject the other... to a large extent. It perhaps plays out more between the citizenry than politicians... that share better relationships than the divides they incite among the people. Hardly a wonder they lack respect for the public when they're able to buy them so cheaply.

your assumptions blind you to rational thought on republicans and likely shade your views more favorably of democrats by the mere contrast... so, we end up with this dichotomy of good vs evil. . . and the mirror effect.

hysterical breakdowns in this thread on the basis of emotions over all else... playing into so many sexist stereotypes as they lash out in every which direction, including their support as they alienate themselves and others in this stupor.

What did they do, really?

Maybe it's just a problem of the age.. people would rather protest than schedule appointments to speak with their representatives -- but that is pretty empty today, and can be difficult beween security concerns and a world post-pandemic, or those that would rather start empty petitions on websites or just merely treat politics like a fashion accessory.. a hashtag, slogan, bumper stickers that change more often than they change their underwear.

They take credit for everything... based on the demographics they belong to as if simply being a member of that groups confers authority and that all individual achievements are shared through the group. So, hardly a wonder they achieve nothing individually or even as a group... as everybody pushes both the responsibilties and the blame onto anyone but self.

It's inane.

It's all quite meaningless and will remain meaningless until Americans escape the duopoly in a greater meaningful way. . . instead of settling for the least as we're so prone to do.

we run into so many problems of ineffectiveness with this one size fits all

but those are the only options, so people keep saying... they don't want more options on their side, fearful it splits the vote and in turn, the same becomes of the other side. this little horseshoe club will never realize in all the ways they're alike.

Oh yes, r82.

R83 they already are - they are passing laws to make it illegal to leave the state to have an abortion, meaning if you leave, get an abortion, and come back, and someone snitches on you, you can be arrested and executed immediately.

for Clarence Thomas, perhaps the Court should take another look at the Loving decision. That should also be left up to the states.

R87 I hope that fucker dies soon and his fat ugly wife, too.

There are people celebrating this in NYC, News 1 just interviewed a young white woman who is celebrating the end of killing innocent lives

Executed? Holy hell.

Calm down people! This will not affect butt babies

As long as I, as a taxpayer, don't see my taxes go up to provide more funding for the podunk states to take care of these kids.

Will repigs still be able to arrange abortions for their mistresses?

They have their doctors on speed dial R93. Laws don't apply to them.

That’s a super productive contribution R50. Did you attend the March on Washington in 1963 and tell everyone that the best plan to end segregation would have been to stop Lincoln from being assassinated 100 years earlier?

Don’t flush it down the pan!

Disgusting and embarrassing. Our nation is a third world shithole! Thanks, MAGArs and third party voters! And by "thanks", I really mean:"FUCK YOU!"

R95, it's not particularly productive to suggest that segregation never would have happened, had Lincoln not been murdered, either. It's a weird claim and there's no merit to it.

I'm mostly just confused about why you were seriously asking Datalounge to solve the problem of the far-right activist SCOTUS, and why you're scolding me because I didn't give an answer you felt was productive enough.

Since you want a better answer, here's my full answer: the problem cannot be solved, as it exists right now. That's the sad truth of many problems. The only way this problem could have been solved was for the problem to not have been created in the first place. That was the only solution. Because people like you would not or could not understand that, we are now here, and we now have to deal with the consequences. Until justices die off or resign, nothing will change.

In fact, I fully expect the next Republican president to increase the number of SCOTUS justices and appoint more far-right evangelicals.

Do not tell me to calm down because I don't fuck women. This is going to fuck ALL of us, not just women.

Some of you need to see someone about your Mommy issues. I understand, I had them, too.

Buck never would have impregnated a woman who'd want an abortion.

if SCOTUS can reverse Roe, it can reverse anything

R98 what do you mean “people like me”? I did my part and voted for Hillary in the general election. Just like I voted for Gore and Kerry and Obama and Biden. And the problem can only be solved with massive collective action to put pressure on the political establishment. That’s what works. People should go out in the street today and start making life very uncomfortable for Republican politicians, and any Democratic politicians who refuse to act. That’s how change actually happens. That’s the lesson taught by every major movement for change in this country’s history.

[quote]the problem can only be solved with massive collective action to put pressure on the political establishment

To put pressure on them to do what?

Following the overturning of Roe v. Wade, Justice Clarence Thomas writes that the Supreme Court should reconsider rulings that protect contraception, same-sex relationships, and same-sex marriage.

How would Republicans and their Supreme Court justices like it if we had armed protests

This planet needs LESS people not more!

The world and planet is fucked and already dying anyway...

The future is bleak.

Why the fuck are people even having babies?

Hello, climate change, no clean water, no oil, robots and A. I taking over...humans aren't needed.

"Fuck each and every one of the God damned weak, lazy and useless democratic politicians. They sat back while the republicans worked DAY AND NIGHT for the past 40 years to chip away at Roe v Wade."

So in your warped mind, this has nothing to do with the fact the womens' groups took their eyes off the ball the last couple of years, and went on a campaign to crucify Democratic party males like Al Franken, Harvey Weinstein and the Cuomo brothers and sacrificed them at the altar of political correctness.

are they going to outlaw wire hangers next? I hope so!

3 years ago when I read this article I proposed that all Missouri women start mailing their used sanitary products to the health department to prove that they didn't have an abortion.

OP her own party went against her nominating a virtual unknown in 2008

[quote] The word "abortion" is nowhere to be found in the constitution thus it was never a constitutional right.

Lots of words are not found in the US Constitution. Read the Commerce Clause and compare that to all the legislation that flowed from the Commerce Clause.

[quote] for Clarence Thomas, perhaps the Court should take another look at the Loving decision. That should also be left up to the states.

YES! He's so damn arrogant. Newsflash: you're BLACK and your wife is WHITE.

[quote]This planet needs LESS people not more!

FEWER!

Clarence Thomas is really like some "Get Out" science experiment, right?

You all think it’s just his decision, huh?

Repugs will just have their mistresses murdered now if they get pregnant.

No, r115, but he was the ONLY justice to bring up the other precedents in his decision.

I don't know how to reconcile people who call those who are pro-abortion "baby murderers" but they fully approved of 8 and 9 year-olds being decapitated by AK-15s in the classroom. It's a real head scratcher.

No r116. You can’t be that dense. Like someone said on News 1, these laws they pass don’t apply to them, or the rich. Rich people and politicians/celebs will still have access. The general public won’t.

R117 he was the only one to say it out loud. This has been going on behind the scenes for a while. This isn’t new.

But here emails.........

I guess R119 you can be dense enough not to detect sarcasm.

^^ This is NOT sarcasm, btw.

Where emails?

I have a family friend who lives in Texas. She was very anti-abortion. About 3 years ago she had her first pregnancy which they discovered after 3-4 months the fetus was severely deformed and would likely be not only may not make it to term, but will cause serious health risk to the mother if not aborted. She reluctantly agreed to the abortion. Because this affected her, she had since changed her opinion to believing it is a woman's right to choose.

Some people will not change their religious/cultural/political view unless it affects them directly. That's called being SELFISH.

Market's up. Might look into a hot tub out in the garden and wiring the shed into a home office.

Many don't approve of either R118 Not everything is either/or

What risks are there to the Democrats in simply doing whatever they can to defang this rabidly rightwing partisan court, using investigations, term-limits, packing the court?

From the outside, it just seems unlikely that over half of a country will simply supinely tolerate an institution which has no respect for precedent or the people’s wishes. Is a Republican court simply going to be accepted for decades?

Here's how I think rich people in abortion-regulated areas still get their abortions.

You pay off a doctor to do a D&C (dilation & curettage) in the uterus. Instead of labeling the procedure an "abortion," you label it a post-miscarriage D&C.

Pro lifers are so clever! Abortion is bad, but owning a gun that can obliterate a child into pieces is ok because gun ownership is our god given right. Murica, fuck yeah!!

R128 they also have the money to travel anywhere in the world to have it done. We don’t have the money to hop on a private jet whenever we feel like to fly to London and get an abortion. They do.

[quote]packing the court?

To what end? Do you not think the other side will then do the same ad infinitum?

We’ll have 101 Supreme Court justices before you know it.

This is why constitutions don’t work.

That, too, R130. But if you want to stay close to home, that's how I think you'd get your abortion.

I watched Biden' statement on this, and I agree with most of what he said, EXCEPT the part about only doing PEACEFUL PROTESTING.

No, FUCK that. We need to burn this mother fucking country to the ground.

Funny how you all suddenly are all for burning down the country when you know your rights are on the line but a year ago were outraged when black people finally had enough.

What if I opened a shooting range in Texas that's actually an abortion clinic in disguise?

You just shoot at the target and there's a fetus behind it. Extracting it from mom will take some clever thinking but hey we have all those tech workers in Austin now.

I'll clean up! No, scratch that, the illegals I hire under the table will clean up. ;)

The. majority of Americans support abortion rights just as they do gun control. It’s a minority that has gotten control of the SC. I don’t blame Democratic pols. It’s the Dem voters who never see the big picture who are at fault. The ones who thought Hilary was no better than Trump. Blue states like NY and Cali will be fine. It’s poor women trapped in red states that will pay the price. Richer ones will just travel somewhere blue for their abortion. I see the same outcome for gay marriage.

R59, oddly, those same people would argue that being able to kill the babies with guns once they're old enough to go to school IS a basic right.

Totally R135 I’ve been thinking that all morning reading the threads on here. So hypocritical. But what else is new?

R106, if you think there are too many people maybe you should do your duty and sacrifice yourself for the sake of humanity. I'm sick of population control zealots who expect to limit births or put to death people they don't like, usually black and brown people who "don't contribute" to society. Off yourselves and leave people alone.

Margaret Sanger is very proud of you today.

The Supreme Court is now a council of religious elders, like they have in Iran.

R103 pass a federal law codifying Roe v. Wade (which Obama during the 2008 campaign promised would be “the first thing I’ll do as president” only to say during his first presidential press conference in 2009 that it wasn’t a top priority for him). Add seats to the Court. Strip the Court of its jurisdiction in certain matters as the Constitution gives Congress the power to do. Pass a law allowing abortion clinics on federal property in states that allow abortion. Etc. and so forth.

CUNTS!

This is not good because leftists who are in support of Islam must abort their fetuses so they don't produce more voters like that #prochoice

3 Supreme Court justices were placed on the bench by a twice impeached president who did not win the popular vote and led a violent insurrection against our government. Our democracy is crumbling right before our eyes.

The dems and “progressives” care more about pregnant people and me starting people than actual biological women.

[quote] I'm a Canadian and this is beyond belief. Your country is going backwards instead of forward. This could not happen in Canada which is a more balanced, common sense nation.

You prosecute speech, so no. You guys are still pretty backward.

[quote] [R103] pass a federal law codifying Roe v. Wade (which Obama during the 2008 campaign promised would be “the first thing I’ll do as president” only to say during his first presidential press conference in 2009 that it wasn’t a top priority for him).

If Biden is feeling like a lame duck, then he should try to enact / codify Roe. Even if he is not feeling like a lame duck, he should do that.

Doctors are pissed that the government is telling them how to do their jobs.

Disney to pay for employees’ abortion-related travel costs after SCOTUS ruling

Disney joins other Hollywood firms in extending the out-of-state benefit to employees.

Netflix, Comcast, Paramount, WME, CAA, and UTA have all told their workers that their travel costs would be covered if they were to go far for an abortion, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

Netflix said it offers its workers a $10,000 lifetime allowance for travel reimbursement for cancer treatment, transplants, gender affirming care, or abortion.

Gay marriage and the rights that come with it are next on the chopping block.

^Fucking Nostradumbass.

We’ve only been talking about that all day.

Fuck off, Canada. Just shut the fuck up and stay out of our shit.

Wow, Disney has really parted ways with the Republicans.

[quote] abortion is not a basic human right

Every woman should have the basic human right of deciding whether or not she wants to have a baby. You stupid fuck.

Revolutions don't happen at the voting booth. Nor do they occur through polite debates or the posting of hot angry takes online. They also don't happen with peaceful protesting. Revolutions happen when the politicians and uber wealthy, those sitting comfortably at the top, become afraid for their safety and also see their finanacial stability and comfortable material lifetstyle threatened with collapse. This is a harsh truth to face at this point because I'm mainly a pacifist. The "laws" being enacted are false systems of control and are only effectively because they're fearfully followed by the populace. These "laws" become immediately ineffective if the population, en masse, ignores them. There aren't enough law enforcement or military personnel to handle a massive uprising in the U.S. You can look to the Uvalde, TX shooting for a clue. All those police against one shooter and they were too afraid to make a move.

R155, corporations do not want upheaval.

[quote]corporations do not want upheaval.

They're not too thrilled about maternity leaves, either.

R158, I'm thinking about DeSantis's battle w/Disney as well. What's going on.

R11

Body autonomy is. It may not be codified by the UN but it is. Let’s make vasectomies required. How does that sound?

R66 Proof?

BREAKING - Abortion in Ohio is now banned at the point a fetal heartbeat can be detected. That's about 6 weeks into a pregnancy before many women know they are pregnant. A federal court just lifted the stay put on the law passed in 2019 when Roe was still in effect.

Whatevr helps you sleep at night OP

This is all so crazy.

There will become gay marriage states, abortion states and Wild West gun states. God help you if you can't move.

Maybe we can set-up an exchange program? Trading places?

After gay marriage and gay protection in the workplace is dissolved this will probably be their next venture.

What will Clarence do?

R86 who blabs about getting an abortion? Just don't go on TikTok, Instagram or Twitter to let the world know. Some things should remain private.

Democrats have snoozed for decades. You snooze, you lose

Biden was never really pro-choice. He is also catholic. Willing to go along but is tepid on the subject. He is probably secretly happy about this.

Yep overconfidence, arrogance, yet lazy naïveté as well have been Democrats’ Achilles heel

It was an abortion, Michael an abortion!

R157 you’re absolutely right. The “just vote harder” crowd doesn’t seem to understand that voting is only a small piece of the puzzle. Mass civil disobedience, major protests, boycotts, harassment of public officials, etc. is what made the social justice movements of the past successful.

Even the most radical politicians don’t really want to expend their political capital unless you force them to do so, or create opportunities for them to do it with fewer costs. There’s a story about the legendary labor organizer A. Philip Randolph going to visit FDR with a list of all the labor laws he wanted the president to pass. FDR looked them over and said something like, “That’s fine. I agree with every one of them. Now make me do it!” You can’t just vote and then sit back and hope the politicians do the right thing.

There’s also a wonderful story in Kissinger’s memoirs about how the secret service was forced to take buses and park them end to end around the White House during an anti war protest. Kissinger walked into the room where Nixon was staring out the window, and Nixon turned to him and said in terror, “They’re going to break through the barricades and get us, Henry!!!” That fear of the population is what led Nixon to sign all kinds of liberal domestic legislation that he hated with a passion.

Protestors should shut down DC the next time the politicians are there. Occupy the bridges, the airports, the train station, etc. and demand they codify Roe. Scare the shit out of them, or at least inconvenience them. That would be a start.

Biden is not the problem. Politically lazy Democrats and liberals are

america is regressing into theocratic barbarism and we here in canada have a front row seat!

R173 - yes, exactly. History is filled with examples like the ones in your comment. The French Revolution (celebrated on Bastille Day) comes to mind as well. A General Strike would be an excellent "non-violent" way to bring intense pressure on those at the top but apparently worker bee values are too programmed into the general public. Or perhaps they're simply too lazy to participate in a mass sick out.

R175 and Canada is turning into a trans cult.

R173 remember Occupy Wall Street, #MeToo, BLM . . .?

Absolutely.

The US is like the only country that’s never rolled heads, that’s never puts heads on sticks in the name of a revolution.

They’ve only been capable or terrorizing and torturing black people and that’s about it.

No American politician has to ever worry about the same fate as Gaddafi or Mussolini or Marie Antoinette.

I remember reading about Ancient Egypt and Queen Berenice III marrying her cousin Ptolemy XI, who had her assassinated after the wedding and the Egyptians marched into the palace, chased him into the coliseum and ripped him apart. That’s how Cleopatra’s father became King because he was next in line.

I mean this post might sound extreme but America isn’t known for being rebellious.

We will turn into a third world country without a fight.

I don't think Generation Ass is all that concerned

R178 - not enough of the population participated in either of those movements. Occupy Wall Street was lazy. Multiply both of those movements by the hundreds of thousands of participating individuals, and that is a revolution evoking fear in the politicians and people at the top. Revolutions aren't comfortable, they huge and scary. They're supposed to be.

Democrats suck at messaging. Every Democrat today should be deploying premade catch phrases and marching orders. For example, they should be saying Republicans are The Taliban Party, and Republicans will take away your freedom, take over your body, put you have in prison. Simple, potent, catchy messaging that puts the emotion and fear into the matters at issue. Democrats had weeks to prepare a message, yet still can’t get it together!

R178 - also MeToo was primarily hashtag activism with a few well-known predatory males being taken down as a side effect. Again, not enough of the population participated and they would have needed to do a hell of a lot more than write screeds exposing various individuals or tweet hot takes. I think you don't understand the difference between a real revolution and random protest activism, some of which might include sprinkles of violent and destructive behavior. A revolution is a different and more intense beast altogether.

R178 BLM was onto something during the George Floyd protests but it turned into a spectacle of Naked Athena and mindless rage. People who didn’t even believe in the cause were out fighting. Like the Kyle Rittenhouse incident was just a bunch of white guys having a reason to go wild.

When that police department was in flames, I knew Chauvin would be found guilty. There have been tons of George Floyds over the last 10 years and the cops walked. Michael Brown in 2014 was the same exact incident and the cops walked. The only difference was the global riots that happened.

Democrats have poisoned us with a whitewashed Martin Luther King Jr. nonsense he didn’t even ascribe to. He wasn’t Jesus, he was peaceful because the other side was violent and wanted to prove his point.

Serious question: As a gay man living in North Carolina, do I need to move to a blue state as soon as possible?

Actually the Tea Party movement which morphed into Trumpism is a pretty good example from recent history. Ordinary people got together and just scared the shit out of rank and file Republican politicians who have now spent over a decade parroting whatever insane conspiracy theories their base dreams up while they’re shooting up heroin. Look at what’s happened to all of the “I stand by my vote to impeach the President for encouraging a mob to attack the Capitol and try to murder the Vice President” GOP members of Congress; they’re losing their primaries or retiring. Imagine if we actually organized like that to force the Democrats to do good and sane things that have broad popular support.

R185 I would seriously start thinking about it.

R185 relax. We don’t know what’s gonna happen. And some blue states will probably drop the ball too.

R184 - yes exactly. Make the people at the top afraid. That will get faster results than voting will.

There is no MLK without Malcolm X there to show the powers that be what the alternative would look like.

R166 What's wrong with abortion Airbnb's?

well, we have AOC R190😍😁😊😂😁😍😉😊

Enough with the 😍😁😊😂😁😍😉😊😍😁😊😂😁😍😉😊😍😁😊😂😁😍😉😊😍😁😊😂😁😍😉😊😍😁😊😂😁😍😉😊😍😁😊😂😁😍😉😊😍😁😊😂😁😍😉😊😍😁😊😂😁😍😉😊, R912, you trolling cunt.

(^.^) self appointed hall monitor🙈🐒🙉🙈🐵🐒

R174 didn't Biden help get Thomas appointed?

[quote]america m is regressing into theocratic barbarism and we here in canada have a front row seat!

But what you apparently don’t have is a shift key.

[quote]Michael Brown in 2014 was the same exact incident and the cops walked.

Michael Brown’s neck was kneeled on by a cop for over nine minutes while the entire world watched?

Yeah, didn’t think so.

This thread = online activism

The irony.

Yes, R185.

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[quote]The word "abortion" is nowhere to be found in the constitution thus it was never a constitutional right.

The words "women" or "sex" aren't in the constitution either

I don't want to pay any extra taxes for these unwanted babies either

R204, the poster you quoted has, just like Alito, forgotten the 9th amendment, which reserves to “the people” all rights not specifically enumerated. In other words, just because the Constitution does not mention a right does not mean it does not exist.

Somebody's grandma getting arrested:

[quote] Police in Greenville, South Carolina are tasing and arresting pro-choice protesters