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Young Principal Has Seven-Year Illicit Relationship with Teen Boy, is Arrested

This seems like such a sad story all around, and yet another example for bigots to use in their case against gay men in positions of authority. He started out as a genuine friend, but crossed the line and took an unhealthy interest in this kid.

The saddest part was how the kid was made to feel guilty over it, keeping the secret because he didn’t want to get his older friend “in trouble.”

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by Anonymousreply 209June 26, 2022 7:27 AM

Stop posting this shit here, you fucking troll.

by Anonymousreply 1June 22, 2022 12:15 PM

These kinds of relationships can have their positive sides.

by Anonymousreply 2June 22, 2022 12:19 PM

is the principal a closeted gay man married to a woman and has kids. He seems like those type.

by Anonymousreply 3June 22, 2022 12:22 PM

It's always a novelty when these types of things don't happen in a church.

by Anonymousreply 4June 22, 2022 12:40 PM

It’s crazy how teachers fucking students still remains a tale as old as time.

by Anonymousreply 5June 22, 2022 12:43 PM

[quote]"4-5 times a week, always at night, throughout the next two years of high school,"

Another case of a stupid adult, and a teenager that was getting what he wanted. Until he didn't.

by Anonymousreply 6June 22, 2022 12:43 PM

The principal looks like an extra in The Exorcist. A wealthy member of a Satan-worshipping cabal.

by Anonymousreply 7June 22, 2022 12:47 PM

I wish he were my principal.

by Anonymousreply 8June 22, 2022 12:47 PM

Useless without nude photos of both teacher and "victim" for sizemeat evaluatia!

by Anonymousreply 9June 22, 2022 12:51 PM

Of prime importance for a country that murdered a million people in Iraq.

by Anonymousreply 10June 22, 2022 12:55 PM

R10 It must be rather difficult to type when wet, runny globs of feces keep dripping out of your mouth onto the keyboard, dear.

by Anonymousreply 11June 22, 2022 12:57 PM

The cleft chin suggests sizemeat!

(He can do his 'time' at our house)

by Anonymousreply 12June 22, 2022 12:57 PM

This is why I quit teaching horny teenagers. I will never forget this aggressive little 14y/o. He flat out told me, if I didn’t fuck him, he would find another teacher who will. And he did.

Everyone knows which teachers are fucking students. Other teachers are afraid to say anything bc that teacher tends to be very popular. I can imagine how silent everyone was when it came to the principal.

by Anonymousreply 13June 22, 2022 12:58 PM

R10- Cheney should be serving MULTIPLE LIFE TERMS in prison but not a peep from the mainstream media about this just endless talk about Trumps so called misdeeds- I did not vote for Trump he's a buffoon but not the WAR CRIMINAL that Cheney is.

by Anonymousreply 14June 22, 2022 12:59 PM

The principal is not a victim.

Every teacher knows it's not their role to be the students' friend. Stop feeling sorry for this loser.

by Anonymousreply 15June 22, 2022 12:59 PM

r13 = the ghost of Mary Kay Letourneau

by Anonymousreply 16June 22, 2022 1:01 PM

When I was in high school, a female teacher was fucking a boy in our class. And the football coach was fucking a girl. And everyone knew it.

by Anonymousreply 17June 22, 2022 1:03 PM

The teacher should know better. But I don't think it's that awful. I would have fooled around with my principal if I had the chance. Like R17 back in the late 80's I knew of at least a few teachers dating students.

by Anonymousreply 18June 22, 2022 1:04 PM

So the kid was likely 16 when this started. I’d fuck that principal at that age too.

by Anonymousreply 19June 22, 2022 1:06 PM

Hot! Just like in porn

by Anonymousreply 20June 22, 2022 1:07 PM

I wouldn't tie this to bigotry. Adults, especially in positions of power, should not get involved with minors. There's no reason for it. In the cases where there's supposedly a genuine connection, an adult is welcome to wait the few years for a teen to be a proper age. Why can't they? Because they're taking advantage of the situation and a minor's naivety.

No adult getting sexually involved with minors is a victim (again, especially not those in positions of power; teacher, priest, camp leader, etc). That's why I'm all for throwing the book at them -- male or female. I'm not convinced there's ever a true connection beyond sexual either; just being around teens should make it obvious why -- they're not mentally at the same level, not as mature (no matter what predators argue), not great at making decisions, are impulsive, and easily manipulated. Doesn't matter if a teen seems into it. Adults should have self control.

by Anonymousreply 21June 22, 2022 1:08 PM

Self-hating footface thread

by Anonymousreply 22June 22, 2022 1:09 PM

He felt guilty about it but was doing it 4-5 times a week?

by Anonymousreply 23June 22, 2022 1:10 PM

He has needs!

by Anonymousreply 24June 22, 2022 1:11 PM

Why do they always pick the wrong people? I would have loved to have a years long sex relationship with a few of my teachers and would have never told.

by Anonymousreply 25June 22, 2022 1:12 PM

The student was probably a slut and seduced the principal.

by Anonymousreply 26June 22, 2022 1:14 PM

"The student told police that Freed volunteered to drive him to various locations for "one-on-one conversations." He added that he and the principal were "'bros', and could talk about anything", especially the student's sexuality, the document said.".

Thats a predator R26. This principal started this manipulative shit in 2015 and it went on until 2022. The reason it suddenly blows up years later is because usually a former teen gets an epiphany they were used by an adult. If an adult has no self control they shouldn't be doing these jobs.

by Anonymousreply 27June 22, 2022 1:17 PM

Fuck the troll OP. She's a particularly nasty POS.

[quote]Why do you come on Datalounge?

[quote]Muriel, you loopy bitch! I come here to see how the threads I start are faring, to see how many ludicrous bigots I can block in a single thread (usually something about money or "The Blacks"), and to troll for witty vulgarians I can seduce and bring home to daddy.

by Anonymousreply 28June 22, 2022 1:17 PM

R27, That's true. People like r25 would have had the time of their life.

by Anonymousreply 29June 22, 2022 1:18 PM

The principal truly is your pal!

by Anonymousreply 30June 22, 2022 1:21 PM

If you are a normal adult and educator, you don’t see students as peers, nor do you exploit your role to manipulate a situation that ends in any kind of inappropriate relationship. The description sounds predatory, and this is not someone who should be trusted with minors. As a teacher you are an authority figure and should have the presence of mind to understand how inappropriate the situation is. This man threw his life away over a relationship he could have had with another adult without issue. Stupid.

by Anonymousreply 31June 22, 2022 1:21 PM

I new I was gay since I was probably 10 and could process it. At 16 I was trying ot find anyone to have sex with. I used to sit in the parking lot of the local gay bar trying to get laid.

by Anonymousreply 32June 22, 2022 1:24 PM

Oh, DEAR r32

by Anonymousreply 33June 22, 2022 1:27 PM

Apparently this principal has been under suspicion for at least 4 years for inappropriate contact with children. Something happened on a church trip to Myrtle Beach and the pastor overseeing it all is shady as f*ck too.

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by Anonymousreply 34June 22, 2022 1:28 PM

R32, I’d do the same in the parking lot of the local porn shop. It was a big pickup place in the town.

by Anonymousreply 35June 22, 2022 1:29 PM

Teachers and students spend a lot of time around each other r5. Teachers have to have the moral fortitude to say they would never do this because the opportunity is likely going to present itself at some point in their career.

But at this point, they have all seen the news stories. They should know it's not worth risking everything.

by Anonymousreply 36June 22, 2022 1:32 PM

If God didn't want adults to diddle with little teenage boys, he shouldn't have made them so freaking adorable. And plentiful.

by Anonymousreply 37June 22, 2022 1:48 PM

R37 Great minds! When can we work together again?

by Anonymousreply 38June 22, 2022 1:50 PM

OP there is a video on the internet of your mother sucking a dog’s dick

by Anonymousreply 39June 22, 2022 3:42 PM

R39 Remind me what I did to make you drag my promiscuous mother into it.

Is it because others have rightfully pointed out that I think bitchy old racists are worthy of scorn?

Is it because I called Greg "Homo Ina Garten?"

Is it because I wouldn't fuck you? I'm not as open-minded as my mother.

by Anonymousreply 40June 22, 2022 3:49 PM

That video is NOT of OP's mother sucking a dog dick. It is MY mother. And the dog wasn't alive so it's not as bad as you think.

by Anonymousreply 41June 22, 2022 4:12 PM

He's not even good looking...

by Anonymousreply 42June 22, 2022 4:28 PM

When I was in High School one of the priest/teachers was fucking one of the students as well (female). Everyone knew it. He eventually quit the priesthood and they got married.

by Anonymousreply 43June 22, 2022 4:31 PM

Sounds like little Mary decided to shake down principal for some quick big cash, principal said no, so little Missy went to the cops. An OLD story.

by Anonymousreply 44June 22, 2022 5:03 PM

R43. The power of the P-U-S-S-Y.

by Anonymousreply 45June 22, 2022 5:32 PM

[quote] The principal looks like an extra in The Exorcist. A wealthy member of a Satan-worshipping cabal.

Wrong movie.

by Anonymousreply 46June 22, 2022 8:56 PM

There were like only three teachers my entire time at school that I would have gladly fucked and I went to an all-boys school with a ton of male faculty members.

by Anonymousreply 47June 22, 2022 8:58 PM

"4-5 times a week, always at night, throughout the next two years of high school,"

Damn that’s a lot of sex. Must have been hot as hell.

by Anonymousreply 48June 22, 2022 9:07 PM

Considering these stories pop up seemingly ALL the time, you'd think they subject more school administrators/teachers to rigorous psychological testing. Guess their crazy would pop up no matter what and they've learned to lie like weasels. Disgusting. Disgusting. And finally, GROSS.

by Anonymousreply 49June 22, 2022 9:10 PM

Sorry, but anyone who has been a teacher knows teenagers are large kids. You are around them all day and know they aren’t adults capable of healthy adult decisions. Plus if you are a teacher you care about the well being of your students, and your instinct is to protect them and make decisions in their best interest. This man exploited his position and the situation. It’s possible the same thing happened this man, but if anything, a victim of abuse would be less inclined to victimize someone in the same way. The fact that this dude was responsible for Special Ed students is very alarming.

by Anonymousreply 50June 22, 2022 9:12 PM

Damn straight. Predators like this infuriate me.

by Anonymousreply 51June 22, 2022 9:14 PM

As a younger teacher, It’s important to distinguish yourself as an authority figure and not a peer. Too many teachers want to be “cool” and gravitate towards engaging students socially in a way that doesn’t establish that separation. No teacher with appropriate boundaries would meet a student alone at school, let alone off school grounds. Terrible.

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by Anonymousreply 53June 22, 2022 9:45 PM

R52 is a challenge!

by Anonymousreply 54June 22, 2022 9:46 PM

I wish I had a cute willing principal like him at my school back in the early 1980s, that would have been ideal, and I would not have complained, he could feed me and pound me all day and all night, I would have enjoyed it, I was so dang horny all the time, lol

by Anonymousreply 55June 22, 2022 9:53 PM

^^ I never cared for guys my own age, I always preferred older 30ish who know what they're doing.

by Anonymousreply 56June 22, 2022 9:55 PM

I have mixed feelings about this. Yes, the principal is a creepy perv and should be punished. BUT, the kid must have been enjoying himself to keep going back for more multiple times a week without saying boo. I wonder if the principal "broke up" with the boy, and now he's getting his revenge.

by Anonymousreply 57June 22, 2022 9:55 PM

Seven years? And yet gays are accused of being fickle and only into one-night stands.

by Anonymousreply 58June 22, 2022 10:00 PM

odd how, in the article, almost every paragraph ends with "the document said," or "the affidavit said."

by Anonymousreply 59June 22, 2022 10:13 PM

[quote]It’s possible the same thing happened this man, but if anything, a victim of abuse would be less inclined to victimize someone in the same way.

Your opinion flies in the face of actual science that shows that those who sexually abuse were likely abused themselves. It's a vicious, self-hating cycle and a form of mental illness. There is treatment but no cure.

by Anonymousreply 60June 22, 2022 10:15 PM

Apparently each grade has their own Principal. How posh.

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by Anonymousreply 61June 22, 2022 10:33 PM

What a sad story. That principal has looks and probably a healthy amount of money. He could have scored prime dick from the pool of guys his own age.

by Anonymousreply 62June 22, 2022 10:37 PM

I find high school aged kids repulsive - I cannot imagine.

by Anonymousreply 63June 22, 2022 10:46 PM

4-5 times a week. That's a lot of douching for the bottom. Maybe they took turns.

by Anonymousreply 64June 22, 2022 10:49 PM

R64 Maybe they stuck to blowjobs in his parked car, in the garage, with the lights off.

by Anonymousreply 65June 22, 2022 10:50 PM

R60, actual research shows the opposite- most weren't abused, although many claim they were to get pity and be seen as less responsible for their actions

by Anonymousreply 66June 22, 2022 10:53 PM

You don’t have to be a reckless asshole in order to be a statutory rapist but it sure helps!

by Anonymousreply 67June 22, 2022 11:16 PM

The high schooler loved the principal’s cock up his ass.

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by Anonymousreply 69June 23, 2022 5:38 AM

This kid received a gift from God and in gratitude destroyed the life of someone who loved him.

A stoning and a good biblical one should be this terrible young man's reward.

by Anonymousreply 70June 23, 2022 5:53 AM

Here’s your once chance, Fancy. Don’t let me down now hun because Momma’s gonna move you uptown.

by Anonymousreply 71June 23, 2022 6:08 AM

Teenage boys are really really annoying. Hell, teens don't even feel like humans with their lack of empathy, lack of consideration for other people's time and feelings and overall selfishness. I can see finding some of them attractive visually but as soon as they talk, you can tell they are children and it's not sexy. People here watch too much porn or TV where attractive older actors play teens. Most teen boys are gangly and awkward with acne and they lack maturity to communicate properly.

by Anonymousreply 72June 23, 2022 6:25 AM

I'm not seeing the sadness.

by Anonymousreply 73June 23, 2022 6:29 AM

[quote] I have mixed feelings about this. Yes, the principal is a creepy perv and should be punished. BUT, the kid must have been enjoying himself to keep going back for more multiple times a week without saying boo. I wonder if the principal "broke up" with the boy, and now he's getting his revenge.

True and that's why these teachers are idiots. Yes, teens are hormonal and sex-crazed and probably not hard to get sex out of them and yeah some will even try to seduce you as a teacher. But they are vulnerable, unstable and impulsive and generally not trustworthy. They are not going to keep a promise to stay quiet and they would not hesitate to rat on you for any reason. They will automatically be victims and the court will side with them because they are legally considered children and as an educator you are legally a secondary parent to them. I have sympathy for stupid adults and it is exploitation and abuse of power.

by Anonymousreply 74June 23, 2022 6:32 AM

*I have no sympathy for stupid adults

by Anonymousreply 75June 23, 2022 6:33 AM

Kid was 17.

by Anonymousreply 76June 23, 2022 6:39 AM

[quote]the ghost of Mary Kay Letourneau

Shit, I had to google because I forgot she died.

by Anonymousreply 77June 23, 2022 6:40 AM

[quote] Your opinion flies in the face of actual science that shows that those who sexually abuse were likely abused themselves. It's a vicious, self-hating cycle and a form of mental illness. There is treatment but no cure.

I don't think it's that simple. People who are sexual predators appear to have some type of severe personality disorder combined with poor impulse control and obsessive-compulsive tendencies. It doesn't mean they were sexually abused themselves but they do seem to have some mental screws loose. The case of teachers who sleep with their teenage students without use of coercion, it seems definitely narcissistic. I don't think it's the same as pedophile or a rapist because usually there is little to no force involved. Maybe blackmail at worst.

It's weird for a middle-aged adult to have that much interest in young teenagers who are supposed to be your pupils and emotionally/legally children who depend on the adults around them for a lot of things. Young student teachers in their early 20s, it's less weird to be attracted to a 16-18-year-old because they are technically in your age range but something who is 40+ it's just creepy and makes little sense as you have nothing in common.

by Anonymousreply 78June 23, 2022 6:41 AM

It's not rare for hetero adults to try to relive their childhood by hanging around schools, often in a professional capacity. Chances are he only started to feel sexual attraction to the boy after a couple years of hanging around with him and not having any adult friends.

by Anonymousreply 79June 23, 2022 6:43 AM

Becoming a teacher or admin is a terrible way to relive your childhood because it's stressful, you get bullied by everyone including the parents, the students, other teachers and the state. You work extremely long hours planning lessons and have to shift things around so much due to curriculum changes. Many teachers seem angry and stressed out and plenty would love to curse out their students.

by Anonymousreply 80June 23, 2022 6:47 AM

I think the reason high school teachers continue to fuck students is because a lot of them are trying to relive their high school years. Either they peaked in their high school years, or they were losers in high school and now find themselves popular and liked. There’s no excuse for their behavior, but there does seem to be a motivating factor.

Also, several years ago I met a supposed 15-year-old who looked like he was in his early 20’s. Knowing his age didn’t magically make him not hot. I knew better than to mess with him…but I definitely felt guilty for the attraction. In my defense, this teen had a beard and a chest hairier than mine (I’m one of those guys who refuses to shave or trim). Part of me thinks he was lying (he was Middle Eastern and this was in Germany…underage refugees get preferential treatment so some lie about their age), but I wasn’t interested in finding out for sure.

by Anonymousreply 81June 23, 2022 7:20 AM

R81 Given the education major isn't renowned for its challenges and often is a backup plan for people who lack interest in STEM or other fields. And the pay is not very attractive nor is the job well-regarded in American society. It does seem a lot of mediocre people become public school teachers. Also the teaching profession has a poor retention rate. The genuinely excellent and intellectual teachers end up either becoming private school teachers or tutors or administrators or quit for a better paying job since most places will hire anyone with a four-year-degree and experience. Which leaves behind the mediocre people who are protected by unions and abuse their authority like this.

by Anonymousreply 82June 23, 2022 7:25 AM

[quote] But I don't think it's that awful.

It is, though. It's a gross abuse of the power a teacher has over a vulnerable kid. The fact that you don't believe so speaks volumes about your own psychological well-being. In fact, the vigor with which your average DLer is willing to defend adults fucking underage kids, incest, and other gross shit reveals that abuse in childhood/youth is rife in the ranks here. Many of you would deny it and claim you were willing, but the fucked up perceptions speak for themselves.

by Anonymousreply 83June 23, 2022 9:48 AM

If the student was 17 and the principal was 27 it doesn’t seem so remarkable. But no fucking students, that’s pretty zero tolerance nowadays.

by Anonymousreply 84June 23, 2022 11:34 AM

They gave the Oscar to Cmbyn, a love story between a guy that looks 15 (Timmy C) and a guy that looks 35 (Arme H.).

by Anonymousreply 85June 23, 2022 11:48 AM

Two thoughts can coexist at the same time; adults in positions of authority should not be having sex with their “charges”, and, when I was that age I would have had sex with an adult in a position of authority.

by Anonymousreply 86June 23, 2022 11:51 AM

Macron could denounce his wife too, if he gets mad at her.

by Anonymousreply 87June 23, 2022 11:57 AM

Why would you give up everything just for sex with a student? I mean if you get the urge, just jerk it. You'll be satisfied, and you won't lose your job or go to prison.

by Anonymousreply 88June 23, 2022 12:17 PM

^^^unless you jerk in front of people. Then you might have a problem.

by Anonymousreply 89June 23, 2022 12:20 PM

That little hussy got dumped and this is her revenge. I bet you she stalked that guy until he just gave in.

by Anonymousreply 90June 23, 2022 12:32 PM

In Colton Haynes book he talks about a police officer who ran an after school program who wasn’t even Gay who he set as a target and seduced and became lovers with. One of the saddest parts of the book is when Colton’s Mom turned him into authorities for never coming home, labeling him a runaway and becoming a ward of child protective services, the police officer offered to drive him to the facility. He stops at McDonald’s and buys him a Happy Meal and fifteen year old Colton is sitting terrified about what’s going to happen playing with the crappy, plastic toy. The guy saw him enough as a child to get him a Happy Meal, but was also fucking him.

by Anonymousreply 91June 23, 2022 1:01 PM

Was the 17 year old really “a vulnerable kid,” the teenagers I know are remarkably confident

by Anonymousreply 92June 23, 2022 1:32 PM

Mary Kay the child rapist was apparently buddies with Anne Bremner, the obnoxious lawyer who inserted herself into the Amanda Knox case.

by Anonymousreply 93June 23, 2022 1:37 PM

Mary Kay was a sick bitch. She started her "relationship" with Villi when he was only 12/`13. She definitely had mental issues. Good riddance.

by Anonymousreply 94June 23, 2022 1:51 PM

[quote] That principal has looks and probably a healthy amount of money. He could have scored prime dick from the pool of guys his own age.

Why is it every time we have a thread of this nature some idiot comes on and spouts this horseshit?

It’s obvious he’s not interested in people his own age over whom he holds no power any more than you’re interested in pussy.

by Anonymousreply 95June 23, 2022 4:10 PM

R82 = right-winger who rants about unions and public schools but votes for people like Lauren Boebert who didn't finish high school

by Anonymousreply 96June 23, 2022 4:50 PM

R96 No. Just no. Public schools are bad because parents and administrations make it so. Teachers and students have little say. Good teachers leave because they get undermined and aren't paid enough. You went to school and damn know there were many incompetent and apathetic teachers who were burnt out after a few years. There's no incentive for excellent teachers to stay.

Also public schools are designed to train children into mindless robots and doesn't enrich their minds or creativity. They also invest more in sports. Other countries do it better but America is a hypercapitalist society that only values productivity and having cogs for the machines not intelligence. That's why all our intellectuals now come from immigrants. America allows mediocrity to flourish.

by Anonymousreply 97June 23, 2022 4:56 PM

I went to a public school and had a lot of good teachers. Most private schools in the US are Christian in nature. You think fundie schools that throw kids and teachers out for being gay are going to attract tons of excellent teachers? I guess some people here think all private schools are Andover and Exeter...

by Anonymousreply 98June 23, 2022 5:03 PM

R98 I didn't mention religious schools. You left out I mentioned the intelligent ones also become administrators or private tutors for the rich. But I also left out the ones who have masters who end up as professors or in other fields where the pay is better. Also keep in mind, schools today are different than decades ago. Kids don't respect their teachers anymore and parents put too much expectation that teachers can magically make their child behave and learn. It's hard to expel disruptive or bully students who ruin school for everyone. Also classrooms are now too big and teachers have to teach 30 to 40 students including special needs ones. Imagine working in a lower income area too where there's constant threats of violence and lack of treatment for mental illness. Public schools are extremely unequal based on property taxing. It's a huge issue and neither party is fixing things because they don't care. Being critical of American public schools is not conservative. American society is innately anti-intellectual and devalues anything not related to making money.

by Anonymousreply 99June 23, 2022 5:17 PM

Was it the kid who started feeling bad about it and turned the principal in or was it his parents?

by Anonymousreply 100June 23, 2022 5:35 PM

Looking at the dates, I bet the principal found a new one and dumped him!

by Anonymousreply 101June 23, 2022 5:48 PM

R99, people were saying "Kids don't respect teachers" today when you were a kid, too. People have only been saying stuff like that for the past 4000 years or so. Also, you're falling into the "both sides" trap when Republicans want to defund public schools and Dems don't.

by Anonymousreply 102June 23, 2022 5:59 PM

R102 No I'm not. Schools need to be funded by federal taxes. Property taxes are ineffective and contribute to income inequality. There's a serious racial divide too. You really want me to be a conservative but I'm not. America does not value education and while Democrats are less hostile to it. They aren't doing shit to improve it. I support independent politics that prioritizes the working class.

Kids don't respect teachers because they are not disciplined at home anymore. When I talked back to a teacher, I got my ass whooped at home and apologized. It doesn't seem parents do that anymore. Plus American society values being selfish and disregarding experts to "pursue your dream." Parents and kids think they know more than people who are educators that have worked years at their vocation.

by Anonymousreply 103June 24, 2022 1:10 AM

R91 that breaks my heart.

by Anonymousreply 104June 24, 2022 1:17 AM

OP- I'm slow today. I thought Young Principal has seven year illicit relationship with teen boy

Was this YOUNG Principal

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by Anonymousreply 105June 24, 2022 1:21 AM

R102 Most kids were not in school 4000 years ago unless they were nobility Public schools didn't exist until the late 19th century and they primarily existed to teach children to read and write and do basic math and geography. Trained them mainly to be workers and tradesmen. When the Great Depression hit, high schools became commonplace to remove teenagers from the workforce as they were competition for adult workers.

America does not value education and never had. We're deeply an anti-intellectual society that was built on the exploitation of slaves and working class. Schools in The US follow an outdated model that prioritizes teaching children to be submissive and conformist rather than freethinkers. There's also a serious divide on income and race with property taxes contributing to it. There needs to be an entire reform and partially Americans need to get involved and stop taking education for granted.

Most people pushing for education reform are in fact liberals. Most intelligent people hate school and can tell you stories of how it made them feel stupid. Big difference between wanting to ban them like Rethugs which they are doing to maintain income inequality.

by Anonymousreply 106June 24, 2022 1:24 AM

I blew one of the hottest teachers in our school my senior year - tall, skinny Eyetalian - so I regret that I must recuse myself from this discussion.....

by Anonymousreply 107June 24, 2022 1:35 AM

R103 is completely right.

by Anonymousreply 108June 24, 2022 1:36 AM

For some reason, no one cares as much when it's a male student. Even less so when the teacher is a female.

This will probably just be exploited because..."muh...gays."

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by Anonymousreply 109June 24, 2022 1:43 AM

This occurred in a small city in conservative bumfuck Pennsylvania, this principal is going to do some serious time.

by Anonymousreply 110June 24, 2022 1:51 AM

R109 so you're saying that gay men are being treated like straight men but you'd rather they be treated like women.

by Anonymousreply 111June 24, 2022 1:54 AM

No, r111. Gay men are being treated like gay men, as always. When it comes to student victims, whenever the victim is male, there isn't much care for the student or anger toward the teacher when the teacher is female. When the teacher is male and the student female, people get far more upset and basically crucify the male teacher.

And when it's a male teacher and a male student, they still don't really care about the male student victim and doubly crucify the male teacher because...gay. Either way, a male teacher starting any kind of "friendly relationship" with a student is suicidal and dumb. Men get shown no mercy. Period.

by Anonymousreply 112June 24, 2022 2:02 AM

somebody got buttfucked at bible school.

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by Anonymousreply 114June 24, 2022 2:26 AM

Any man who has a relationship with a student is shown no mercy according to you, R112, yet they continue to do it again and again and again. I guess men never learn (to stop being perverts)

by Anonymousreply 115June 24, 2022 2:35 AM

Nope, r115. They really don't. It's honestly bizarre.

by Anonymousreply 116June 24, 2022 3:13 AM

It's not bizarre if you know men R116.

by Anonymousreply 117June 24, 2022 3:19 AM

7 years is a LTR. Respect.

by Anonymousreply 118June 24, 2022 5:46 AM

Principal ain’t got no principles!

by Anonymousreply 119June 24, 2022 7:55 AM

[quote]For some reason, no one cares as much when it's a male student. Even less so when the teacher is a female.

It's men, though, who make most of the nudge nudge, wink wink type comments whenever a story like that gets reported though. Talking about teachers they would have fucked, or making jokes about teenage boys and their libidos. Look at this thread! Plenty of guys doing the same thing over THIS story.

Women know a grown-ass woman fucking a teen boy is gross. They're not out there cheering on these teachers and their victims. it's men doing that.

by Anonymousreply 120June 24, 2022 8:05 AM

The public has crucified many female teachers hot for boys.

by Anonymousreply 121June 24, 2022 8:20 AM

I mean...it's really only awful because of their "professional" relationship. Otherwise, it would just be kinda, enh...

by Anonymousreply 122June 24, 2022 9:58 AM

I don't know if the facts in the link are correct, but it changes perspective a bit.

According to this article, the boy approached the teacher when he was 16, but the sexual relationship have begun two years after that. And it seems that the boy went to college in 2018, but the relationship lasted until two months ago, April 2022! Looks like the teacher was fucked over by the boy.

I am not saying that the guy is not a chickenhawk, as I posted before, but it seems like a kind of revenge, since the relationship lasted years after the boy graduated high school and went to college and as soon as their relationship was over he realized he was a victim and went to the police.

I don't understand why does the fact that as stated: "in March 2021, he (the teacher) allegedly attempted to engage in anal sex with the the male WASD student but was told to stop." has to do with the prosecution. It was long after the student left school and was not underage anymore and obviously the teacher stopped when he was told to.

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by Anonymousreply 123June 24, 2022 11:30 AM

Remember, kids, the last word in principal is “pal.”

by Anonymousreply 124June 24, 2022 1:13 PM

Tre Taylor got upset cuz dude stopped sending him money.

by Anonymousreply 125June 24, 2022 1:16 PM

Blackmail, you think?

by Anonymousreply 126June 24, 2022 1:20 PM

How did they get 30 counts of felonious sexual intercourse with as student if he performed oral sex on him four to five times a week in 2019? For being a Maths teacher, that doesn’t add up?

by Anonymousreply 127June 24, 2022 1:29 PM

The only issue I have is this homophobic double standard. It seems male teachers who have sex with male students get punished far worse and more quickly than male teachers who sleep with female students and female teachers who sleep with male students.

by Anonymousreply 128June 24, 2022 1:40 PM

Well, he's probably losing the house with the pool now.

by Anonymousreply 129June 24, 2022 1:54 PM

Who do we think did what to who?

by Anonymousreply 130June 24, 2022 2:09 PM

Apparently Principal blew Student 4-5 times a week in someone's car front seat. Whether there was more is immaterial..

I'm not a survivor of abuse, and as a teenager I would have been eager to have sex with an older man (whether or not he was in some way custodial), so I'm trying to tread carefully here, but...more and more of these cases seem entirely about regret, or being found out, or blackmail, than emotional or sexual abuse.

There is absolutely no excuse for a man in a position of authority having a sexual relationship with a youngster for whom he is responsible. Full stop.

But is it abusive? And, what responsibility falls on the younger person?

This is seven years in the front seat of a car. It stretches credulity that in his twenties, the younger one was still coerced, physically or psychologically, to sit in that car and get a blow job.

If I wasn't going to be accused of being a pedophile (which is the incorrect term, anyway), I would be interested in a thread detailing the experiences of the younger people in that equation, and whether it was a positive experience or negative experience. We don't need the sexual details - that's not what the question would be - but are there situations in which someone benefited from such a relationship? The emotional and physical effects. Would we find that many were positive, as well as a better understanding of how and why they can be detrimental to sexual and emotional well-being, safety, and stability.

Are any and all of these relationships always a matter of power dynamics? What of the 21 year old college graduate that has sex with the 17 year old high school senior down the block that is mowing his lawn? Is it okay if the 17 year old has graduated? Is it bad the day before graduation and okay the day after graduation?

I don't have any definitive answers but I think there are larger discussions that we are not having. Or are being prevented from having by the immediacy of accusations of pedophilia.

by Anonymousreply 131June 24, 2022 2:44 PM

[quote]Full stop.

Full fucking eyeroll

by Anonymousreply 132June 24, 2022 3:38 PM

Well at least the kid didn’t get knocked up repeatedly. All those DEAD babies!!!

by Anonymousreply 133June 24, 2022 3:55 PM

[quote] There is absolutely no excuse for a man in a position of authority having a sexual relationship with a youngster for whom he is responsible....But is it abusive?

Having a sexual relationship with a child for whom you are responsible is illegal precisely because it is abusive. If it wasn't, it wouldn't be illegal.

by Anonymousreply 134June 24, 2022 6:12 PM

R57 and R131, teens are horny and want sex. They will have sex with anyone if the opportunity arises. That is why we put the responsibility on the adult, not the kid. It is why the actions of this principal were so insideous.

While it is going on, it is a lot of fun for the kid. But a year or two later, you feel like shit. You realize that there was nothing in it for the other guy but your youth. There was no emotional sharing--because there could not be given the difference in experience. You realized your were used and start to wonder if your body is all you got. And will anyone want you after you hit 21.

No strings attached sex is possible when you are older. As a teen, there are always lots of strings.

by Anonymousreply 135June 24, 2022 6:30 PM

At last we have found our new Director of Children's' Programming

by Anonymousreply 136June 24, 2022 7:46 PM

Girls, I am not defending the principal, but that young guy is rotten. He was still with him few years after high school, until two monts ago. No matter that their affair started when he was still underage, imagine denouncing your lover like this, must be some piece of work.

by Anonymousreply 137June 24, 2022 10:10 PM

Well the Principal helped shape his character.

by Anonymousreply 138June 24, 2022 10:11 PM

Did the boy approach the Principal for emotional support like this?

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by Anonymousreply 139June 24, 2022 10:34 PM

R123, I have to admit I don't feel sorry for the principal at all.

He started grooming a 16-year old student at his school and then started having sex with him as soon as he turned 18. And as soon as the kids aged out of his preferred age range (@21) he dumped him. Most likely to start the cycle over again with another 16-year old.

I agree a lot with what R135 said.

by Anonymousreply 140June 24, 2022 11:32 PM

One thing that is satisfying is that this teenager is getting his justice now. It will help him to heal an move on. It will also stop the principal from doing it to other boys. The MeToo# movement has been really helpful in creating an environment where abuse victims can speak now instead of waiting for years or never speaking out at all.

by Anonymousreply 141June 24, 2022 11:39 PM

I'm missing something important here. He started having sex with the principal at 18 and continued having sex with him into his 20s. And then goes to the police and destroys this man life? Clearly I'm missing a huge piece of the puzzle.

by Anonymousreply 142June 25, 2022 12:15 AM

R142 the part where he started grooming him at 16 so he could have sex with him at 18. Maybe principal should have focused on his job instead.

by Anonymousreply 143June 25, 2022 12:19 AM

Eeew, that principal is fat

by Anonymousreply 144June 25, 2022 12:21 AM

The principal could have used Grindr to find 18 year old college kids instead of seducing and having sex with a student. If the principal was so desperate to bang a 16 to 17 year old if the age of consent is that in his state, he could have went elsewhere and found one not under his authority. There's really no excuse here.

by Anonymousreply 145June 25, 2022 12:22 AM

Exactly, R145. But this guy wanted to use his status as a principal to groom a kid that he specifically picked out.

I wonder if he looked through the kid's personal files. You know he wanted a kid who he thought wouldn't tell anyone.

by Anonymousreply 146June 25, 2022 12:30 AM

The guy was 18. He CHOSE to have sex and continued to have sex into his 20s. What you can't have sex with someone you knew who was an adult before you were 18 AFTER you turned 18? The 'child' should have a rotten life filled with regret. Going to the police when he was in his 20s having had the entire relationship his legally adult life? He had to have been dumped by the principal. It was such a mean nasty thing to do. 'You're leaving ME?! What for some 18 year old? In my mid 20s I've aged out? You GROOMED and USED me to throw me aside like used toilet paper! Ok fine. I am going to destroy you.'

by Anonymousreply 147June 25, 2022 12:39 AM

R147, the principal destroyed himself.

by Anonymousreply 148June 25, 2022 12:41 AM

R147 The issue is the principal pursued him as a minor under his authority. If the principal just waited after the kid was 18 and no longer his subordinate. Then this wouldn't have happened. The adult here was stupid and should have known better than to make passes at a minor. Any mature adult knows not to trust a teenager and think they wouldn't rat on them. It was an abuse of authority and stupid behavior which is why he's being punished. We don't need idiots running schools.

And as I mentioned earlier. Why couldn't the principal hook up with a legal college kid instead? There's not much physical difference between 16 and 18.

by Anonymousreply 149June 25, 2022 12:47 AM

R149, you won't be able to convince R147. These types of threads always draw out this particular crowd.

by Anonymousreply 150June 25, 2022 12:50 AM

Because an 18 year old is legal and not under his control. The attraction isn't there in those circumstances.

by Anonymousreply 151June 25, 2022 12:50 AM

I don’t see anything illegal here.

“Grooming,” which is very hard to prove, isn’t a crime. Consenting sex with someone who is 18 isn’t a crime.

by Anonymousreply 152June 25, 2022 12:52 AM

Is the kids anus a slot?

by Anonymousreply 153June 25, 2022 12:52 AM

R147 Likes pedo porn

by Anonymousreply 154June 25, 2022 12:54 AM

R152 the article is confusing but it says they had sex for two years during the kid's high school years. It started while he was a student otherwise the principal couldn't be charged with anything illegal.

by Anonymousreply 155June 25, 2022 12:56 AM

No. I just know what it's like to be 18 and to want to fuck and if there's an attractive guy 30ish who was my principal and an adviser yeah I would have fucked him.

But it seems to have started while he was still in high school so that's a whole other thing.

by Anonymousreply 156June 25, 2022 1:03 AM

Actually according to the article they started being "buddies" when the kid was in middle school.

by Anonymousreply 157June 25, 2022 1:04 AM

[quote]If the principal was so desperate to bang a 16 to 17 year old if the age of consent is that in his state, he could have went elsewhere and found one not under his authority. There's really no excuse here.

I highly recommend traveling abroad! Like the Amalfi Coast.

by Anonymousreply 158June 25, 2022 1:08 AM

The age of consent in most states is 16 or 17. But teachers and administrators will get rightfully charged because they're abusing authority. And even if the age of consent is under 18 and you're not an authority figure, it's still too risky because the teen can tell their parents who will press charges. I understand being horny and all but no career or reputation is worth ruining to tap some teenage boy who will not give a shit about you in the long run.

by Anonymousreply 159June 25, 2022 1:08 AM

"some teenage boy who will not give a shit about you in the long run".

R159, uh, these school employees aren't the ones forming an emotional attachment.

by Anonymousreply 160June 25, 2022 1:10 AM

R34 does that mean there are others he abused?

by Anonymousreply 161June 25, 2022 1:11 AM

R159 as if this principal gives a fuck about some kid he's porking.

by Anonymousreply 162June 25, 2022 1:14 AM

Especially if he's no longer a twink.

by Anonymousreply 163June 25, 2022 1:15 AM

R162 I don't think he cares about the kid either but he shouldn't expect the kid to care about him in return once he got old enough to recognize the abuse. His error was thinking that the infatuation would last and he wouldn't get ratted on. It shows he has no knowledge of the adolescent mind and how quickly infatuation turns into resentment and hatred.

by Anonymousreply 164June 25, 2022 1:17 AM

Oh R164. Yeah, good point. I guess child abusers have big egos.

by Anonymousreply 165June 25, 2022 1:18 AM

A predatory mind who has been circling around a teen since he was in middle school has no emotional attachments.

by Anonymousreply 166June 25, 2022 1:22 AM

And during one sexual encounter in the spring or summer of 2017, Freed told the teen "you promise not to tell anybody" because "I could lose my job over this," Miller wrote.

Freed continued to have sex with the student even after his graduation from high school in 2018, the complaint said.

"The abuse began when the child was approximately sixteen years of age," according to a statement by Lycoming County District Attorney Ryan Gardner.

That's a lot clearer.

by Anonymousreply 167June 25, 2022 1:23 AM

R165 Yes narcissistic they are. It's easier to manipulate a small child. But a teenager, forget about it. That's why the high school teachers and principals who sleep with students always get exposed. Teens are old enough to understand that it's wrong and whether or not they say anything is really up to them. And it's not like it's the 70s or 80s where teen boys would never say anything out of fear of being associated with homosexuality. Today it's different and there's little to stop a teenager from telling the world they were statutorily raped by an authority figure

by Anonymousreply 168June 25, 2022 1:23 AM

R168, that's not true. This principal was grooming this kid since he was in middle school. Maybe he knew something about this kid's family/background that he thought would make it less likely the kid would say anything. Anyway, the principal is just a POS.

by Anonymousreply 169June 25, 2022 1:36 AM

[quote]R94 Mary Kay was a sick bitch. She started her "relationship" with Villi when he was only 12/`13. She definitely had mental issues. Good riddance.

As I remember it, the most shocking thing about that story was when she was out on bail (?) she went straight back to fucking the teen in her car. Then the authorities heard of it and she was rearrested, and she was like, “HaHA! The joke’s on YOU! Now I’m PREGNANT!!”

by Anonymousreply 170June 25, 2022 1:38 AM

R70, she ruined his entire life by saddling him with 2 kids and clinging to him I think he finally got rid of her right?

If he put her 6 feet under I don't think there is a jury anywhere that would have convicted him.

by Anonymousreply 171June 25, 2022 1:46 AM

I’m sure he loves those kids and does not consider his life to be ruined

by Anonymousreply 172June 25, 2022 6:06 AM

We suspect Principal has SUBSTANTIAL sizemeat....and is a total top.......... and we are ovulating at the thought!

We hope something very bad happens to little Mary who turned him in.

by Anonymousreply 173June 25, 2022 9:32 AM

PLEASE don't tell me that you actually believe they waited until the little whore was 18 before they had sex. REALLY?

by Anonymousreply 174June 25, 2022 9:42 AM

No othey waited to 17 because that was the law.

by Anonymousreply 175June 25, 2022 10:41 AM

R172 I'm too lazy to look for it but I remember an article where he expressed those sentiments.

by Anonymousreply 176June 25, 2022 1:39 PM

The kid sounds phony. The story sounds as if the teacher was grooming a 5 yo child. He told him: "We are bros. Bros should pleasure each other. " As if a 16 yo guy would fall that crap. These are words you could use on a small child.

Plus the fact that "The student told investigators that he approached Freed around 2015 after noticing that he was popular with students at the middle school service center" sounds suspect as hell. The teenagers are not stupid and it is possible that he knew about Freed ’s weakness for boys or might have noticed that Freed looked at him in a particular way, cause it is obvious that he was Freed’s type.

by Anonymousreply 177June 25, 2022 1:42 PM

Imagine choosing to wreck your career and risk prison by fucking a teenager, but having the wherewithal to pause and wait until he’s 17. You have steady access to the jailbait, and are touching and grooming him already, but let’s wait another two years just in case.

Sex crimes are usually more impulsive than that.

by Anonymousreply 178June 25, 2022 2:35 PM

Right R178, this story is fishy.

by Anonymousreply 179June 25, 2022 2:42 PM

Could it be that the Principal is the victim in this case?

by Anonymousreply 180June 25, 2022 3:07 PM

r92 Putting on a show of confidence can be a result of being/feeling vulnerable or insecure.

by Anonymousreply 181June 25, 2022 3:43 PM

R177 oh that poor weak man being taken advantage of by that big bad teenager! Really, it should be minors who get taken to jail for it, not the adults....

by Anonymousreply 182June 25, 2022 3:52 PM

If you look at his picture on that website about the church he belonged to, he has smug arrogant creep written all over his face.

by Anonymousreply 183June 25, 2022 3:56 PM

R182 It is not the question of who is phisically bigger, but who is more cunning.

by Anonymousreply 184June 25, 2022 4:19 PM

Are there nude photos of the Principal?

by Anonymousreply 185June 25, 2022 4:21 PM

principal found some new teen snatch, not dead, and dumped him.

so obvious.

by Anonymousreply 186June 25, 2022 4:22 PM

I think that you're right, R186. The principal moved on and the victim wasn't happy about it, so he decided to make accusations.

Still, this principal is a fool - there are thousands of hot guys above the age of 18 who would have LOVED to jump into bed with him. Of course, he probably got off on the fact that his victim was underage and was being manipulated and exploited. In short, he is a mentally ill pig and regardless of what motivations the victim might have, he is right in complaining.

by Anonymousreply 187June 25, 2022 4:28 PM


Yes Rose, he has an OnlyFans!

by Anonymousreply 188June 25, 2022 4:48 PM

How cute. Btw, he is a married closet case.

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by Anonymousreply 189June 25, 2022 5:03 PM

[quote]he could have went elsewhere

Oh, dear!

by Anonymousreply 190June 25, 2022 5:06 PM

Seems like he is prosecuted for procuring the boy alcohol too

"They would also smoke cigars and drink red wine at a hotel out of town, the student told officials."

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by Anonymousreply 191June 25, 2022 5:09 PM

He also fucks fish and makes babies!

A real man!

by Anonymousreply 192June 25, 2022 5:12 PM

Many delusional DL queens will believe that he is straight, no matter that he had more frequently in his mouth student's cock than the dinner prepared by missus.

by Anonymousreply 193June 25, 2022 5:28 PM

As I high schooler, I would have done anything for cock and loved hooking up with older men. I would have totally sucked and been plowed by this high school principle and enjoyed it. The problem that I might have run into is wanting to share it with a few close friends who wouldn't have been able to contain themselves to spread the gossip and this was pre SM. I used to fantasize about doing older men all the time. My parents were definitely the type to press charges though. My mom was like the OG Karen.

by Anonymousreply 194June 25, 2022 5:55 PM

[quote]R191 Seems like he is prosecuted for procuring the boy alcohol, too. "They would also smoke cigars and drink red wine at a hotel out of town, the student told officials."


Oh, we got trouble…!

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by Anonymousreply 195June 25, 2022 5:56 PM

What they aren't telling us is that the teen had major size meat and ropes of cum, staying hard after the first shot, and was the top in this torrid affair.

by Anonymousreply 196June 25, 2022 5:58 PM

Let's make sure every post is pre-approved by R1. She sounds like a very nice lady.

by Anonymousreply 197June 25, 2022 6:02 PM

Call me a perv, but something about that principal's intriguing face tells me that he throws a really good passionate fuck, it must be the chin, or the eyes, the expression, whatever it is, it's Awesome sex appeal, lucky kid... ;-)

by Anonymousreply 198June 25, 2022 6:59 PM

Maybe it was true love

by Anonymousreply 199June 25, 2022 8:02 PM

Funny part about the two of them making out, smoking cigars and drinking wine in the principle's office.

It seems like the principle was spending big part of his free time with the boy.

by Anonymousreply 200June 25, 2022 9:59 PM

Pardon, principal.

by Anonymousreply 201June 25, 2022 10:01 PM

Did the principal teach the boy how to suck cock and swallow?

by Anonymousreply 202June 25, 2022 11:00 PM

Isn’t that innate?

It was with me.

by Anonymousreply 203June 25, 2022 11:14 PM

[quote]Demon LIQUOR?

Oh, lord, not the Jesus Juice.

by Anonymousreply 204June 25, 2022 11:15 PM

I bet the kid isn’t the only one he porked.

by Anonymousreply 205June 26, 2022 1:37 AM

He said head principal....he he....hehehehe...hehehe...

by Anonymousreply 206June 26, 2022 2:23 AM

Some basic bitch has to ruin it for horny teens that fantasize about fucking their kind of fuckable Principal. SMH

by Anonymousreply 207June 26, 2022 2:30 AM

If this principal was married, how in the world did he manage to get away four or five times a week, good grief, the stamina and guile of those two.

by Anonymousreply 208June 26, 2022 4:12 AM

Is the wife standing by her man? Surely she’s experiencing some sleepless nights.

by Anonymousreply 209June 26, 2022 7:27 AM
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