Just finished season 1. Are the rest of the seasons just as good?
Finally getting into Mad Men
|by Anonymous||reply 132||June 25, 2022 7:41 AM|
Better. The next 3 or 4 seasons especially, and the last couple of seasons were for me the most uneven (if not unrewarding.)
|by Anonymous||reply 1||June 22, 2022 8:40 AM|
I agree with R1. It's almost a flawless show.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||June 22, 2022 8:42 AM|
The rest of the seasons are as good as the first. But none of the seasons reach the depth and excitement of staring at your wall and watching paint dry.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||June 22, 2022 8:43 AM|
Give it time. Do you know how long it takes me to get into my girdle?
|by Anonymous||reply 4||June 22, 2022 8:45 AM|
You remind me how disappointing it is that the DL has a wit and wisdom button but none for witless and stupid.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||June 22, 2022 8:47 AM|
[quote]Are the rest of the seasons just as good?
Yes. You are in for a fun ride.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||June 22, 2022 8:50 AM|
Also, don't forget to pat yourself on the back while telling yourself how smart you are if you really want the full Mad Men experience.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||June 22, 2022 8:55 AM|
I have never watched Mad Men. I think I'll give it a shot, too.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||June 22, 2022 8:58 AM|
“It will shock you how much it never happened.”
|by Anonymous||reply 9||June 22, 2022 9:00 AM|
"Finally, after all this time, we've become mad men!" Seriously, that's how they chose to end the show?
|by Anonymous||reply 10||June 22, 2022 9:01 AM|
How much Hamm VPL please? It will help me decide if i should watch the show.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||June 22, 2022 9:08 AM|
Didn't they end the show with Alice Cooper and her companion singing a cover of Pussy Riot's "Straight out of Vagina" and the entire show was just in Gene Draper's imagination?
I remember it pretty well because the Mad Men was the last time I took LSD.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||June 22, 2022 9:32 AM|
YES. The series becomes much more interesting as the sixties progress. Season one is just setting the table and establishing the characters.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||June 22, 2022 9:35 AM|
Just wait for the riding mower scene.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||June 22, 2022 9:36 AM|
Some of the writing got clunky in the last two seasons, but I always loved it.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||June 22, 2022 9:37 AM|
There were a few characters and storylines I could have done without, but I loved it all the way through.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||June 22, 2022 9:53 AM|
Imagine a “Mad Men” with no Meghan. Though I guess she did illustrate certain things about Don. Not interesting as a character in her own right, though.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||June 22, 2022 9:56 AM|
r8 Watch Succession instead. It's about a million times more interesting.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||June 22, 2022 10:40 AM|
[quote] Just wait for the riding mower scene
“One second you’re on top of the world, the next one you get run over by a stupid secretary on a lawn mower”
|by Anonymous||reply 19||June 22, 2022 10:48 AM|
It was good until the end, in my opinion. Like a lot of long-running shows it peaks in the middle (seasons 3-4).
|by Anonymous||reply 20||June 22, 2022 11:03 AM|
Spoilers: all they do is have Jon Hamm's character get moody and leave town and then come back. They do this at least twice, one of which being the plot of the last season, IIRC. They didn't know what to do with the story.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||June 22, 2022 11:47 AM|
Draper grew tiresome, but the other characters saved it for me.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||June 22, 2022 12:30 PM|
It was great until Meghan showed up
|by Anonymous||reply 23||June 22, 2022 1:17 PM|
Pre-Megan Mad Men: Seasons 1-3. Mad Men with Megan mostly in the background, until close to the end: Season 4. Mad Men, the Megan era: Seasons 5-7.
She was the worst major character on the show. I actually felt bad for Jessica Paré, with the way Matthew Weiner pushed her so hard. Season 5, especially, made it seem he was so eager to share with the world this exciting discovery he felt he had made, at the expense of the show. Then it wasn't enough that she was in most of the Don scenes; they brought her parents on, and followed her into different career situations with her own supporting characters.
It's a great series overall. It's just better in the first four seasons than it ever is again. Pace an earlier comment, I actually think this show did "early '60s" better than it did "late '60s." Sometimes in the later seasons (entirely separate from the Megan issue), they'll have young guest actors playing hippies, and their mannerisms and cadences are not convincing at all. They're more like hipSTERS.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||June 22, 2022 1:43 PM|
EXCELLENT series, OP.
Mad Men and The Wire are two of the best in their generation.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||June 22, 2022 1:53 PM|
It's a good series and fun to watch it unfold. Lots of twists and memorable scenes. Great characters and great performances from the actors playing them. Plus the costuming, sets and period-perfect artifacts? Icing on the cake. Enjoy, OP.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||June 22, 2022 1:58 PM|
Don’s backstory and the flashbacks got tiresome. Peggy became the series’ most compelling character.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||June 22, 2022 1:59 PM|
I thought Vincent Kartheiser was the stealth MVP. That was great counterintuitive casting: a charmless character played by an actor who has charm to spare...yet we always believe the situations he gets himself into. His comedic timing was impeccable.
I did think the aging of him in the later seasons was a little much. It's been a while, but weren't they padding him and shaving his hairline back?
|by Anonymous||reply 28||June 22, 2022 2:03 PM|
Meghan was fine. I didn’t like how Peggy didn’t care about her discarded child. She seemed a little psycho. And the exit of the gay was abrupt and weird. The show creator seemed a little gay. Surprised he ended up having some weird thing with a woman.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||June 22, 2022 2:05 PM|
He did put a lot of gay characters in the show, both men and women. I don't want to name them, because some of them are intended to be surprises, and OP might not want to know before he meets them.
But yeah, I think Weiner is straight, and Mad Men strikes me as a straight TV-auteur's baby. It was always kind of male gaze-y, for all its progressivism. And God, that season-five episode of Sopranos he wrote, "Sentimental Education"...that definitely was the work of a straight man. A somewhat bitter one.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||June 22, 2022 2:15 PM|
I forgot all about the Megan character.
That’s how poorly written that character was. I blocked her out of my memory.
The Rachel character was executed perfectly. Probably one of the better, if not best mistresses Don had. I liked Bobbi as well. She was fun.
Sally became my hero in the end. She was annoying as fuck, but the kid had the most fucked up parents a kid could have, so I gave her all the leeway in the world.
My favorite of all was Joan. She did what she had to do to become partner, and still rose up with dignity through that humiliation they put her through. It was all she had in a time when women were given almost nothing to work with.
My favorite storyline was the opposite end of the spectrum- the guy who was fired for rejecting the advances of the cigarette mogul dude. I forget his name, but I loved his character.
My god, that poor man just could not win. He was stuck in a world where no matter what he did to survive in it, people shit on him, left and right. His poor frau beard was also suffering due to his selfishness, but what could he do? Well, turns out he did what 99% of gay men did back then: get married. But his character and his storyline still broke my heart and stayed with me long after the show. Don was a wimp for not saving his ass like he had with Peggy and her secret pregnancy/birth.
Roger was always a male chauvinist pig hoot. Loved the character despite his assholeness.
I never loved Peggy. I respected her, and wanted to see her triumph, but I never loved her.
Peter was a POS I wanted to see get punched in the dick/balls every single Sunday- no question.
I loved the Palm Springs trip. The shots were cool AF and it’s my favorite architecture era.
There’s so much more to write. The show was rich and textured in so many ways.
Enjoy the ride OP. It’s not a perfect show, like The Wire, but it really does get close, and where it doesn’t go neck in neck with The Wire, it makes up in other ways.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||June 22, 2022 2:26 PM|
"Megan" was an odd name choice for a French-Canadian girl.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||June 22, 2022 2:41 PM|
The name Megan was terrible. Megan wasn't even a common name in the Anglo speaking world circa 1967, much less the French one. That being said I didn't really mind the character or the actress, though clearly that's an unpopular opinion. She did seem like the modern type of woman Don would have married as a second wife. I've heard complaints that the character was too idealized but I thought she was actually pretty layered. They showed her flaws just as they showed Betty's.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||June 22, 2022 2:54 PM|
Pay attention to wardrobe decisions. Mad Men had nearly flawless costuming.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||June 22, 2022 3:03 PM|
It's hard for me to think of a bad episode. Maybe the ones that focus on Pete's affair with forehead girl?
|by Anonymous||reply 35||June 22, 2022 3:06 PM|
R35 Her name is Rory Gilmore!
|by Anonymous||reply 36||June 22, 2022 3:10 PM|
Costumes and sets only get you so far. The writing was incoherent, discursive, whatever you want to call it. I call it "slower than Better Call Saul". And I couldn't care less about big boob lady either. Roger was consistently amusing, but rich entitled white men get old.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||June 22, 2022 3:16 PM|
Where is the Norwegian Catholic I’m all of this? We had ENDLESS threads about it.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||June 22, 2022 3:36 PM|
I think the writing for the most part was excellent. Economy of language. I wish people spoke like this in real life instead of rambling on incoherently to make any kind of point.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||June 22, 2022 5:59 PM|
It would have the most sense historically to make Peggy Irish American. Or Polish or Italian or even German... But Norwegian? Gurl it's 1965 you should be a native of South Dakota not Brooklyn! Otherwise I thought Peggy was a well written character. Interesting that Elizabeth Moss was the biggest breakout star on Mad Men.
I did appreciate as a whole how flawed and nuanced the characters were. For the most part very few characters were unrealistically pure or cartoonishly malevolent.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||June 22, 2022 10:33 PM|
Edit : I feel dumber than Meredith. In just googled and apparently the character was only part Norwegian and the other half Irish. Still think it would have made more sense to make her fully irish based on the demographics of Brooklyn at that time.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||June 22, 2022 10:37 PM|
I remember watching this show and thinking Kiernan Shipka was going to do well in the long term, that she'd be someone like Jodie Foster who makes the transition to acting as an adult.
But then I saw her as Bette Davis's daughter B.D. in that miniseries with Susan Sarandon and Jessica Lange, and what she had had as a child actor hadn't carried over. She was one-note, flat. I haven't seen anything more recent.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||June 22, 2022 10:39 PM|
Sally gets caught fingering herself during a sleepover by her friends mother.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||June 22, 2022 10:57 PM|
I was fine with Megan, actually, until she and Don separated and she moved to California. From me it's only the last two seasons (which is really one season split into two) that are weak. I like the stuff with their new high-rise apartment and her working at Sterling Cooper (or whatever it was called when she worked there--it went through so many name changes).
|by Anonymous||reply 44||June 22, 2022 11:16 PM|
Don only likes the beginnings of things.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||June 22, 2022 11:17 PM|
Cosign Joan being the best character. I also loved Betty, but I know she's controversial.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||June 22, 2022 11:21 PM|
Joan and Pete were my two favorite characters.
But I loved all of them.
Except perhaps Peggy. I always rooted for her, but she’s just so humorless.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||June 22, 2022 11:57 PM|
I really like Henry and Henry's mother and her interactions with Sally.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||June 23, 2022 1:05 AM|
There are good episodes in every season. A tiny wee bit of padding around season 6 and early season 7 - things that maybe could have been told a wee bit more concisely and one character that definitely outstays their welcome.
But minor quibbles for a very good show - and there are always at least 2-3 episodes each season that just crush it, completely.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||June 23, 2022 1:09 AM|
R46 Betty is my favorite character, too. She's such a tragic figure; albeit deserving of scorn. I kept rooting for her to become a better person.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||June 23, 2022 1:13 AM|
My favorite show. Loved all the characters even the annoying ones.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||June 23, 2022 1:23 AM|
Betty was the luckiest bitch ever. She had Don AND Henry's cocks.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||June 23, 2022 1:27 AM|
Betty got good dick that's for sure! Henry is just as hot as Don but not a self destructive asshole. Altho probably still a narcissist.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||June 23, 2022 1:36 AM|
[quote]It would have the most sense historically to make Peggy Irish American.
Peggy was Irish American, through her mother. It's not that big of a stretch to believe an Irish Catholic woman married a protestant who happened to be Norwegian and insisted that their kids be raised Catholic. There were lots of families like this back in the day.
Not a stretch if you possess the slightest bit of intelligence and common sense. This being Datalounge, however....
|by Anonymous||reply 54||June 23, 2022 1:53 AM|
OP- I have watched that show 3 times from episode 1 to the finale, and its my 2nd favorite show of all time after The Comeback (The Sopranos is my 3rd)
I loved every season, even the seasons that some did not like.
And Betty was my favorite character, but I still really enjoyed another actress who everyone here hated, as well as her relationship with another major character. (I don't want to spoil anything. I watched this show very late- started in 2014 and never read a spoiler or detail about the show. That was why it was so good- I knew nothing.
The show is special due to its attention to detail- not just the time period but to the characters. There are wonderful idiosyncrasies, small and large plot twists, and just really wonderful truthful moments and a lot of subtext. I liked how the show in many respects wasn't "talky" as that is what those times were like. People said far less- that is why the show really really works on a subconscious level. There is a lot unsaid- Especially with Joan, Betty, and Don- it makes the characters extremely compelling.
A very special show and NOT overrated. It will also age very well.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||June 23, 2022 2:11 AM|
R54 I agree. My family was one like this!
|by Anonymous||reply 56||June 23, 2022 2:25 AM|
[quote] YES. The series becomes much more interesting as the sixties progress.
Although I loved the show, start to finish, I actually found the setting of the early 60s to be more interesting.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||June 23, 2022 2:35 AM|
Mad Men moves at a snail's pace.
It's like watching paint dry.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||June 23, 2022 2:44 AM|
S1E1 Smoke Gets in Your Eyes is such a great episode. And tonight I saw the movie that song is from on TCM - Roberta (1935), as sung by Irene Dunno who was referenced in another Mad Men episode.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||June 23, 2022 2:44 AM|
You know what's not Mad Men? The Old Man (2022) with Jeff Bridges. Watching E1 now. Have no idea what is going on and not interested to find out.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||June 23, 2022 2:46 AM|
Riding lawnmowers are fun!
|by Anonymous||reply 61||June 23, 2022 3:14 AM|
I love Mona.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||June 23, 2022 4:43 AM|
R55, can you just say the female character's name? I'd like to know who you mean. I agree with most of what you said.
When I think of "Mad Men," Betty is definitely the image that comes to mind. I don't know why she looms so large to me.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||June 23, 2022 4:57 AM|
[quote]I don't know why she looms so large to me
The fat suit.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||June 23, 2022 5:26 AM|
We heard you already, r58. Go watch power rangers then put your jammies on, it’s almost bedtime.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||June 23, 2022 5:31 AM|
r65 I was the first one to say that. r58 is a different poster. But great minds think alike!
|by Anonymous||reply 66||June 23, 2022 5:34 AM|
Ida Blankenship was a Datalounger.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||June 23, 2022 5:37 AM|
Also, Don and Henry were old and gross. The only fuckable ones in the cast were Bob, Ken, and Michael Ginsburg.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||June 23, 2022 5:38 AM|
Super exciting, r66
|by Anonymous||reply 69||June 23, 2022 5:53 AM|
[quote]The only fuckable ones in the cast were Bob, Ken, and Michael Ginsburg.
IMO, the hottest guy on Mad Men was that dickish young illustrator who wasn't impressed with Joan. The one who called her "the big Ragu." Peggy fired him for making a sexually harassing drawing.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||June 23, 2022 6:37 AM|
r70 Also, the lifeguard that Betty tried to fuck after she saw Sally had a crush.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||June 23, 2022 6:58 AM|
How’s about the guy Betty fucks in the bathroom at the bar, he was stunning.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||June 23, 2022 7:53 AM|
It's a good series, worth a watch, but very spotty.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||June 23, 2022 9:05 AM|
I miss Betty. I've been contemplating a rewatch as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||June 23, 2022 10:58 AM|
Don was an alpha stud. When he fingerbangs that woman and rams it in her.....I got wet!
|by Anonymous||reply 75||June 23, 2022 2:14 PM|
r75 When was this?
|by Anonymous||reply 76||June 23, 2022 2:20 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 77||June 23, 2022 2:21 PM|
Very depressing series.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||June 23, 2022 2:26 PM|
No, not fan fic. Bobbie was the character.
You see them in a restaurant restroom, both standing up, and you can tell that Don is finger fucking her. It's really hot.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||June 23, 2022 2:29 PM|
I forgot that part - Roger's BJ blotted it out.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||June 23, 2022 2:33 PM|
I introduced my Dad to "Mad Men", who was young in the 60s, he liked the show, of course, but one of the comments he made was "I don't get why they smoke and drink on every scene". Also he loved Megan, so it must be a straight men thing, I can pass her small teeth, big gums and awful acting.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||June 23, 2022 2:38 PM|
Like everyone else I loved Mrs. Blankenship, but her ditzy replacement Meredith never got the same level of fan love, which is a shame. She was hilarious as a dumb blonde receptionist.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||June 23, 2022 2:38 PM|
In hindsight, I feel the Megan character is actually perfect. Maybe I’m assuming too much, but feel as viewers, we build up Don to be God like and anything less than a Marilyn Monroe goddess is not good enough for him.
Megan is a blunt reminder that Don isn’t that great and is just human line the rest of us.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||June 23, 2022 2:57 PM|
Go visit her, r74.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||June 23, 2022 2:57 PM|
I’ve never understood the hate for the Megan character. I suspect it might have something to do with jealousy thar someone else was getting Don’s big D?
|by Anonymous||reply 85||June 23, 2022 2:59 PM|
Megan represents all the lazy bitches who just latched onto a man to make their way in the world. Worse, she had the nerve to be unhappy after winning the lottery.
See also that annoying skank on “White Lotus” who married a rich jerk then proceeded to complain CONSTANTLY about how he wasn’t kissing her ass enough.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||June 23, 2022 3:02 PM|
r79 I would give Don a fingerbang.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||June 23, 2022 3:04 PM|
I thought Betty learned of Don’s deceptions too quickly, it almost seemed like a rash decision tbe writers made to wrap that up so fast. And in my opinion, the show never recovered. They certainly never knew what to do with the Betty character after that.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||June 23, 2022 3:06 PM|
I would let Roger jizz in my mouth.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||June 23, 2022 3:07 PM|
[quote]I’ve never understood the hate for the Megan character. I suspect it might have something to do with jealousy thar someone else was getting Don’s big D?
Nah. A lot of women on the show got that, and some of them were popular.
The only Don love interest I found even more boring than Megan was that waitress in the last season. Diana, I think?
|by Anonymous||reply 90||June 23, 2022 3:09 PM|
I would have appreciated Megan more if they hadn't drawn out her story so long.
Betty was hated initially and then people started to see that she was a product of her times.
Megan is exactly what a second wife would be for someone like Don. But the main thrust of her story was spent relatively quickly, and should have ended. It would have been something if one of the women Don used showed the repercussions of that more vividly.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||June 23, 2022 3:15 PM|
The problem with Megan was bad casting. I never found her likable or sympathetic. Hamm and Jones are not great actors but they were perfectly cast in their roles and it shows.
The first three seasons are some of the best tv ever, then it goes downhill.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||June 23, 2022 3:16 PM|
Do we suppose Don chose sex as the primary outlet for his dysfunction because he grew up in a whorehouse?
Sure, he is probably also an alcoholic but not a Freddy Rumsen alcoholic.
Women were Don’s real addiction.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||June 23, 2022 4:31 PM|
They dropped a thousand interesting plot points and retold the same story on a loop over and over and over again. Nice set design tho.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||June 23, 2022 4:38 PM|
It would taste like cigarette ash, R89. But I agree in principle.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||June 23, 2022 5:19 PM|
My favorite series of all time.
Watched it as it was airing and have binge watched it several times as well.
The first four seasons are fantastic. The finest television writing! Superb. Layered and textured. So much of this show is about what's not said rather than what is said.
When the show came back for Season 5 after a year-long hiatus, it somehow lost a lot of its mojo. It was still good. Still better than 95% of what is on TV, but it wasn't up to its pre-hiatus levels of quality.
Most blame that loss of its mojo on the Megan character. I'm not going to disagree, but I didn't hate Megan the way so many others around here did.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||June 23, 2022 5:29 PM|
Season 5 is actually my favorite season.
Deeply weird, uneven, and disorienting.
Much like the era it depicts.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||June 23, 2022 5:41 PM|
Loved the show and glad I watched it. I had an unnatural fascination with Manhattans and Old Fashioned when the show premiered. I would order them when out with friends. Got a lot of weird looks from my friends AND bartenders!
|by Anonymous||reply 98||June 23, 2022 5:47 PM|
I think this is the last show I watched in real time.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||June 23, 2022 6:22 PM|
Don certainly became a Freddy Rumson alcoholic as the show progressed. He crashed his car while drunk and was later thrown in jail after a boozy baron brawl, for God's sake! As a whole, the show warned of the dangers of drinking and smoking, though it seemed on the surface to glamorize them.
I really liked Megan and she absolutely would've been an appropriate second wife to someone like Don. But the point of their sudden marriage was that they didn't know each other at all and that should've been the realization the story led to. Instead, Weiner kept Megan on - and on the other side of the country! - long after she should've been gone.
I always found Don as a single man far more compelling. Season 4 Don - newly divorced and horribly adrift emotionally - is his most fascinating iteration.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||June 23, 2022 6:37 PM|
Bay Ridge Norwegian Catholics
|by Anonymous||reply 101||June 23, 2022 6:48 PM|
The Conrad Hilton episode (when they first meet) is one of my favorite episodes.
Played by both actors perfectly
|by Anonymous||reply 102||June 23, 2022 7:21 PM|
I loved - and miss - Mad(ison Avenue) Men.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||June 23, 2022 7:27 PM|
Don Draper should've just blown his brains out around season 5. I got tired of his sad, schleppy ways--poor me, I'm so misunderstood. I had had more than enough of him by the final season when he was fucking that equally annoying sad sack waitress.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||June 23, 2022 7:38 PM|
We certainly weren't as stylish or aware as some of these upper middle class types as shown in the show...
....but still, Don and Roger both remind me of my father, and a lot of other men from that era.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||June 23, 2022 8:06 PM|
Hi R63- See R83 to see who I was referring to.
I am serious about how much better this show is without spoilers...
|by Anonymous||reply 106||June 23, 2022 11:42 PM|
R97- ME TOO!!!!! Is that Fat Betty ? or is that the season after
I recall during Season 5 going I LOVE THIS SEASON..
Its been 2 years since I last watched straight thru and I think I will revisit during the holidays this year!
|by Anonymous||reply 107||June 23, 2022 11:44 PM|
I think Mad Men is best watched binge-style.
I watched it regularly as it came out over all those years, and I honestly couldn't remember some of the minor reappearing characters and why the hell they were there.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||June 23, 2022 11:50 PM|
R108- I agree- the details on the show are best caught with consistent watching. Its its own vibe. Like a long movie. Its pretty impactful.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||June 24, 2022 12:00 AM|
My favorite was Mama Francis, Henry's mother. Remember when he and Betty came home and his mother was holding a knife and Sally was hiding underneath her chair because she told Sally about the murderer?
|by Anonymous||reply 110||June 24, 2022 12:19 AM|
R63 I didn't see your post waaay back but yes it was Megan
|by Anonymous||reply 111||June 24, 2022 1:07 AM|
I liked Mrs. Blankenship .
|by Anonymous||reply 112||June 24, 2022 1:23 AM|
VERY weird - a YOUNG Mrs. Blankenship in the 1984 movie The Karate Kid.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||June 24, 2022 1:24 AM|
Betty was an interesting character but hated her ending. The washing machine scene made me laugh. And the fainting couch.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||June 24, 2022 1:26 AM|
Dr. Faye "I hope she knows you only like the beginning of things" is now on Stranger Things
|by Anonymous||reply 115||June 24, 2022 1:33 AM|
It’s MISS Blankenship.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||June 24, 2022 1:40 AM|
I hated the teacher Don had an affair with. I used to watch Rectify and it took me a long time to warm up to that actress because I disliked her on Mad Men.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||June 24, 2022 1:45 AM|
For Betty, I liked that bittersweet episode where the rival Ad firm lured her out of model retirement for that Coca Cola advertisement to try to woo Don to jump agencies and join them, and then when that didn’t happen they dropped her like a hot potato.
I also liked when she realized that Don was getting reports back from the psychiatrist and she started to make up “fuck you” stories to tell him.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||June 24, 2022 1:59 AM|
If you grew up with a cold mother you could relate to Betty. January Jones was perfect for that part, unfortunately most in the cast will never do better than that show.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||June 24, 2022 2:43 AM|
I loved the show from beginning to end, though I really wish they had ended with Season 6 and then returned 10 years later with Season 7.
This thread prompted me to skim and rewatch a few episodes. The first episode is absolutely perfect. They establish all the characters and plot lines with deft confidence, only revealing at the last moment that Don is married. The show revealed a deep heart and conscience, but that first episode is brilliantly chilly and on point.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||June 24, 2022 2:46 AM|
I could spend a week watching the show straight through with some edibles and good snacks and be perfectly happy. Maybe the next time my partner is out of town I will lol. The world it creates always seems so enveloping and strangely comforting, like whatever problems you have are not new and the world is just the way it is, figure out where you fit and deal with it.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||June 24, 2022 4:01 AM|
R121 thanks to the pandemic I've still not had TV Me Time since 2019. I love my partner but I need him to go away for a few weeks and see his family.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||June 24, 2022 5:04 AM|
It was weird that Megan remained part of the ensemble in season 7, when the end of season 6 had provided a perfect out for that character. I remember the mass groans on social media whenever she appeared, especially when they would cut away to her place in California.
Maybe Weiner was dangling a spin-off about '70s Hollywood ("Better Cast Megan"?) and AMC didn't bite.
[quote]Dr. Faye "I hope she knows you only like the beginning of things" is now on Stranger Things
I had first seen her as Christopher's post-Adriana wife on The Sopranos.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||June 24, 2022 5:31 AM|
Not necessarily the best episode, but my favorite episode was Season 7's Faraway Places. When Roger and his wife take the LSD trip, (I barely noticed Peyton List until this episode, where I thought she was amazing); and Don loses Megan in the Howard Johnson's parking lot.
SPOILER ALERT:: The finale when he finds she's home and maniacally chases her around the apartment was the most terrifying we'd ever seen Don. And the way each of the three stories is told in complete, using major players in quick supporting cameos, building the tension. It was sublime. I've watched it at least 20 times.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||June 24, 2022 8:24 AM|
^^Sorry. Season 5. My favorite season. Also, The Other Woman.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||June 24, 2022 8:26 AM|
There's a Bob Dylan song with the line "Can you cook and sew, make flowers grow? Do you understand my pain?" It was sexist AF, but to me, that was Don when he married Megan. He was only thinking about his own wants and what he saw in this inept secretary with a nice body. He "cast" her in a role. She was good with the kids, she hung on his every word, she wiped the baby's ass, she didn't make demands or ask questions like Dr. Faye. He married her on the basis of a weekend in which she was there as an employee on best behavior. The next thing he knew, he had a much younger wife who was into pop culture things he didn't like or understand, expected him to support her flailing acting career, had little/nothing to do with his kids, and made plate after plate of dry spaghetti when she cooked at all.
It wasn't a bad idea for a story, because it proved to viewers that Betty wasn't all of the problem in the collapse of the first marriage. But Jessica P. wasn't up to everything she was asked to do, and Weiner's crush on her kept him from seeing that. There was too much of her and it went on too long.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||June 24, 2022 8:37 AM|
The Babylon episode in So blew my mind the first time I saw it. That coffee house song is so haunting and perfectly sums up the tone of the characters and their relationships.
Of course The Suitcase is a masterpiece - forget which season. So much happens it feels like a 3 hr movie but it is regular episode length.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||June 24, 2022 4:08 PM|
^^That's S1 not So. Sorry!
|by Anonymous||reply 128||June 24, 2022 4:09 PM|
Love Duck Phillips. Big talker! Sexy voice. Doesn't like anything on his desk but ashes. They don't make them like that anymore.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||June 24, 2022 4:11 PM|
yeah, he's so hot!
|by Anonymous||reply 130||June 24, 2022 4:14 PM|
Except for when he tries to take a shit on the couch.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||June 24, 2022 4:22 PM|
[quote] Of course The Suitcase is a masterpiece - forget which season.
Season 4. Fittingly, overall it's episode #46 of of 92. Bang in the middle.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||June 25, 2022 7:41 AM|