I know we have a big thread on Uvalde…

I can't believe none has yet committed suicide. If this were Japan, at least five officials would have offed themselves by now out of shame.

What a shit show.

It was also revealed the other day that an officer had a shot at the gunman but, for some reason, chose not to take it.

As of now they’re saying he didn’t think he could make the shot without possibly injuring other kids, but the story is constantly changing so who knows?

The victims were all dark and/or brown, so we're not concerned about it.

Given all the changing stories I won’t be shocked if we find out he took the shot but hit a kid

"I would have run in unarmed."

“Only I can fix this.”

This topic makes me suicidal.

[quote] Given all the changing stories I won’t be shocked if we find out he took the shot but hit a kid

I think you are on to something. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I think that you are on to something.

I don't want to judge the police. I don't know the situation they faced that day (besides the obvious). Some of these officers have families to support. Are they supposed to sacrifice their lives and leave their children behind because yet another angry person hell-bent on revenge was able to get a hold of a gun? And what would they be sacrificing their lives for? It's just going to happen again and again.

Last year, Republicans were screaming "Blue lives matter!" and crying about how we need to elevate the police. Now they're throwing the police under the bus because they need someone to blame for this crime. A bunch more kids are dead (again), but it CANT be because it's too easy to buy a machine gun. It has to be the fault of the police.

[quote] Last year, Republicans were screaming "Blue lives matter!" and crying about how we need to elevate the police.

Just not the Capitol Police, apparently.

[quote] "I would have run in unarmed."

[quote]—DJT

Muthafucka, you wouldn’t have run anywhere unless you was chasing the ice cream truck leave Maralardo.

r10 Are you the person constantly defending these loser cops on every thread? Are you one of them? A family member?

YES. The cops should have risked their lives to save those children. The children in front of them in an unlocked room being slaughtered were the children they should have been protecting and trying to save. Those were the children they should have been concerned about. Not their own children who were safe somewhere else, not hypothetical children in a hypothetical future. The children being slaughtered.

If you aren't willing to risk your life to help children being murdered ten feet from your pussy ass, then don't take the job in the first place. And don't post pictures of yourself in all your combat gear trying to look like a bad ass when in reality you run from people who need your help.

^^

*standing ovation*

We should bring back old school Westerns like "High Noon" to remind people that it doesn't matter what kind of firepower you're holding if the other guy draws first.

Also maybe some WWI trench warfare movies like "All Quiet on the Western Front" to remind them that nobody ever won a battle by running straight into oncoming bullets.

I don't really blame those cops for hiding during the shootings because there was probably so much piss and shit pouring down their legs they would have slipped in it and smashed their heads.

We need to make the gun humpers' worst nightmare come true and start taking their guns away. Enough is enough.

I didn't realize that law enforcement job descriptions have an opt out clause if officers feel too threatened by dangerous situations. Those rascally police unions and their contract negotiators!

Uh oh, someone needs to pay big time.

Guns are the problem. Direct your energy at gun control.

This is a small town, one few people had even heard of. Why do you expect a handful of local yokel cops to behave like a SWAT team? None of them had ever seen anything like this before.

I am the biggest pussy on earth (thank God I am a woman so I don't have to act all brave all the time), and I don't know how I would've acted as a teacher. I don't know if I could have put myself in between a shooter and a kid, but I also don't know if I could live with myself if I didn't. I never want to find out.

My husband is a firefighter, and has gone into dangerous situations. He tells me that the cops here in NJ make around $100,000 or more. They are not forced to take those jobs. Those cobs love the perks. I doubt the ones in Uvalde make that much dough, but they still love the perks and the image. They were giant pussies and should be put in jail. Saving people is their fucking job. They took that job. Fuck them.

[quote]Why do you expect a handful of local yokel cops to behave like a SWAT team? None of them had ever seen anything like this before.

Because they'd just received training and bullet-proof equipment to do so...

Those cops need to lose their jobs and any vested pensions.

If they don't, the next time there is any kind of school or hostage situation, parents and relatives will disobey the cops and swarm into the danger zone. If the cops are doing their jobs, the parents should stay away so as not to complicate the police's job.

All it takes is a good guy with a gun, huh?

Shit cunts.

Greg Abbott is helping them cover up

They needed to now the guy had unloaded his gun before they could enter the room safely.

[quote]I don't want to judge the police. I don't know the situation they faced that day (besides the obvious). Some of these officers have families to support. Are they supposed to sacrifice their lives and leave their children behind because yet another angry person hell-bent on revenge was able to get a hold of a gun?

No, the "armed teachers" are supposed to do that.

Aren't most of them immigrants? Just doing jobs Americans won't do eh?

The Uvalde police was a complete shit show. Not only did they do nothing of any value whatsoever, they lied about what they did do.

19 kids slaughtered because the police acted like a bunch of keystone cops.

We all saw the videos of them running around in armor and with rifles. It was all fucking theatre. They were running around looking and dangerous and fierce but acted like a bunch of pussies.

The reason details keep changing is because they are lying out of their asses and hoping anything sticks

They didn't do a damned thing for over an hour.

They actually did one thing. They beat up, handcuffed and the threaten the parents out front who wanted to run in and try to rescue the kids

Mass shootings scare THEM? LOL!

There are ways to reduce the number of them. Democrats are fighting to do it. The majority of Americans want it.

Doing nothing about a problem only makes a problem worsen. Ignoring an issue only compounds it. The more Republicans and ammosexuals try to say guns matter more than our lives, the stronger the eventual legislation will be.

It's only how many more innocent people will have to needlessly die by gun violence until enough people say:"ENOUGH."

Wow, the door was unlocked.

Fucking unlocked.

Let that sink in for a second

In addition to proper training, the real issue is banning ASSAULT WEAPONS.

"The gunman was cornered in a locked room by the police, and at that point we needed to wait for tactical and SWAT to come in and get him" was the story we were told at first, and I'm absolutely certain the truth is that they were scared and in over their heads, so they concocted both those reasons to delay going in there. I would bet they also told themselves that all the kids were dead anyway, so there was no reason to go into the room. Whatever they had to tell themselves, they did. Now they're having to cover up their cowardice. I wish one of them would come forward to tell the truth, but I don't think any of them are that kind of person.

[Quote]Let that sink in for a second.

Since 2009, there have been 278 mass shootings in the United States, but, by all means, focus on the response and not the problem, R31. There doesn't seem to be any urgency.

Since Republicans want to arm teachers, how is that coming along? Are they setting up programs to provide teachers with guns and ample hours of training? Where are the videos of teachers high-fiving each other after gunning down school shooters in effigy?

Some local school district, probably in Texas or Florida, will arm teachers, and within 3 months a gun will be found by a little kid who accidentally shoots someone with it, or an older kid will steal the gun and start shooting, and that will be the end of that little experiment.

Here in flyover, no one is even talking about this anymore and the nightly news gave it about 5 seconds and spent more time on the price of gas.

George Conway retweeted a tweet about this story. Wow.

[quote] Texas Department of Public Safety Director Col. Steven McCraw revealed that the husband of slain elementary teacher Eva Mireles tried to save her but was barred from doing so.

[quote] Ruben Ruiz is a police officer for the school district and was on the scene after the gunman entered the school and opened fire.

[quote] McCraw said Mireles called Ruiz and told him that “she had been shot and was dying.”

[quote] “And what happened to him, is he tried to move forward into the hallway,” McCraw said. “He was detained and they took his gun away from him and escorted him off the scene.”

[quote] McCraw didn’t say who specifically detained Ruiz.

The news everywhere is talking about inflation. Gun control is not primarily on everyone's mind right now.

Yep. Just on the minds of the Uvalde parents. Everyone else went home and turned out the lights.

That's the difference between the US and civilized countries, your Honor.

And on the minds of the Uvalde cops who are feverishly trying to make up excuses to explain their craven inaction.

[quote] Since 2009, there have been 278 mass shootings in the United States, but, by all means, focus on the response and not the problem,

There are MANY problems here

Police departments all over the country have been suiting up with military-grade equipment. They're swimming in money as no politician is actually willing to cut funding.

And now you see, it's all a show.

[quote]"I would have run in unarmed."—DJT

"Let's roll!" roared greg abbott.

It was during the Global Elite Meeting in Davos, and Matthew McConaughey hails from this small town, and has played in various political, jurisdictional/legal, and a few historic movies and is somewhat poltically active. There was also an amok drive/terrorist act, here in Germany, Berlin, at that time, with a man driving in a few people with a car, and the somewhat underemployed, ageing, openly gay (so not blackmailable and controllable through this, but still) Hollywood star John Barrowman happening to be on the scene, making videos after the deed. The buying twitter thing of Elon Musk may have also been a diversionary tactic. Control the news cycle.

[quote] All of them, “good guys” with guns and still, this happened literally underneath their noses and on their watch.

Except they weren't "good guys" with guns. If they had been good guys with guns they would've attempted to stop the shooter. They were cowards with guns. A coward with a gun is of no use to anyone because a coward with a gun is still a coward.

And old Joe Biden offered to pay for a new school. I didn't appreciate that or him helping out ron desantis when that building collapsed in Florida. The repugs do not appreciate these things at all and all it accomplishes is covering up for republican failures that led to hundreds of people getting killed.

Let the God damned republicans clean up their own mess. I don't want my tax dollars used to sweep republican crimes under the rug. When is this old man going to learn anything?

It might have been worse. The cops might have decided that they needed to send a couple kids from other classrooms into the classroom just to suss out if it was still dangerous to enter.

R48 Fuck, don't give them ideas.

"Creating another wave of anger toward the beleaguered police department, new footage released Wednesday showed Uvalde officers rushing into Robb Elementary School to take selfies with the shooter."

Next there's going to be a mysterious headboard injury that effected the judgment of the officer who made the rest stand down.

Well, this much we can be sure of:

If any of these cops live, not just patrol/work in Uvalde, they’re going to have to move FAR away, asap.

No way are they going to be able to peacefully live in a town where they did nothing while kids died.

R52 I'd recommend not moving anywhere in Texas and perhaps changing their names anywhere in the US.

[quote]injury that effected the judgment

Oh, dear!

Won't anyone think of the poor shooter. Having to suffer so much incompetence around him by the kids and teachers and cops. He must have been bored!

[quote] Next there's going to be a mysterious headboard injury that effected the judgment of the officer who made the rest stand down.

He'll be fine. There was a cop in a Florida shooting who hid and refused to save the kids.

If the democrats were smart they'd really be capitalizing on the fact that these police officers were afraid of that gun

And the pieces of shit on the city counsel wanted to give this coward cop a leave of absence. He asked for leave because he wants to hide out and avoid criticism. They were ready to give it to him and Some woman got up and had it out with them. She had to tell these fucking morons who rushing to protect this cop and save his cop and city counsel seat, what the actual laws/bylaws/rules were and that they should refuse his leave of absence and let him miss 3 city counsel meetings and they would be able to toss him off.

Although these cunting cunts on the city counsel never should have sworn him in after he let all those children get murdered. But their first thought was to swear him in and help him cover up his crimes

Uvalde, ya'll need to clean house. All you have are cowards and crooks running the entire city government. Get all new people. Vote each and every one of these losers out. Harass all of them until they move out of town. They shouldn't be able to leave their homes without getting screamed at. They shouldn't get a minute's peace

The reason I would put myself between a shooter and a child is because I couldn’t live with myself if I didn’t. I don’t know how these guys will live with themselves. The rest of their lives will be a kind of death.

R57 you think that but half of them are stupid and immoral and will get over it quickly. You would have to be immoral to stand there for an hour doing nothing.

America has a crisis of character.

You are right R58. None of those cops have quit. None have been disciplined. The city counsel's first mission was to swear in the police chief (who got all the kids killed & refused to save them) onto the city council. Then a week or two later, their second top priority was to try and protect & shield him from any criticism.

Everyone in Texas is okay with it too. I haven't heard anything more about this. It's as if this never happened.

I wouldn’t say forgotten. There is an investigation going on that isn’t being very forthcoming. Also, the City Council had no choice but to swear in the Chief, he had been officially elected and was not under indictment. But if he misses their next meeting it will be three in a row and then the residents can vote him out, which I imagine will happen.

At 54 minutes, the mayor reads 2 letters. One from DA. One from DPS.

Both state "pursuant to Texas Govt Code 552 — a request to withhold information due to an ongoing investigation."

It's simply "A REQUEST."

Not an "order."

Release the information to these suffering parents!

i am sorry dear, but no one cares about uvalde any more

it is all abortion and EPA now, with covid and recession on the horizon