DC - what a waste of time

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Dull and boring? DC is a city rich with history and diversity! There are countless free museums and free events.

A snake pit. Really.

DMV area is full of the worst people in the U.S.. Just horrible, horrible personalities. Snide, nasty, and very judgemental.

R4 That’s exactly what I encountered. Who the hell wears Brooks Brothers dress shirts with the sleeves rolled up and khaki shorts out to a bar?

You can make a fortune off Republicans!

R6 is correct

Most of the people that live in DC could not live anywhere else. I’ve seen it happen over and over again. People from DC move to New York or LA and last five minutes.

I was born and raised in the DC suburbs and lived there through my 20s, and I can confirm that this is true. There is a lot of snobbery, and a lot of people looking to use you for whatever they can get. The gays have the attitude without the looks. Imagine going to a bar and being rejected by a 5 who is acting like a 10. The DC Metro Area is also home to a lot of ugly Jewish people who have migrated down from New York, and it shows when you go out to dinner. Imagine restaurants full of people who look like Mark Zuckerberg sitting next to a dog in makeup with a 4 inch nose. Apparently at the end of World War II, the hot Jews migrated to Israel and the ugly ones migrated to New York and DC.

And last but not least, every time I go back there to visit and get a rental car, at some point I usually get cut off by some asshole in a BMW.

In the DMV all seems to breathe freedom and peace, and to make one forget the world and its sad turmoils.

The capitol should have never next NYC area. Imagine a national mall north of NYC with a major major city just south of it all. You could ah e political and financial power all in one spot without that fake southern charm bullshit, DC tries to put on.

Or was it always in dumbly Philadelphia. Either way, DC is a dump.

OP were they offended by your "literacy"?

R9. Woah. That has to be one of the most deadliest reads I have read in some time. I am in stitches and tears. Why do my birth city like that?

You only think it's a waste of time because you can't afford to live here. Go away, you won't be missed. 🖕🤣👋

I always get a kick out of the "DC stinks" threads. I was seriously considering moving to NoVA - so do the negative traits of DC seep into that area?

Yes there was one just recently. It's not THAT bad of a city.

R9, you had me until the anti-Semitism. It's somewhat funny how your post took a KKK turn midway.

R17 As someone who was born and raised there, yes it is. Fuck that place.

Meh, I lived there for a number of years R19 . I enjoyed it.

R18 I’m sorry. I just couldn’t help it. As someone who spent a lot of time living in that environment —- oh God, they just whine about everything. The way they carry on when they have to wait for a table at a restaurant. They act like it’s the end of the fucking world to be mildly inconvenienced for a few minutes.

It’s a really ugly place except for the specifically manicured national monument/park areas. The street condition was just about the worst I’ve ever encountered. The whole area should be spotless!!

R16 NOVA is worse than DC. It’s full of government contract nerds.

R21 I agree with your observation of ‘5s’ turning you down. No loss. Who wants to date a goofball impressed with his government contract job.

NoVa is am extension of Georgetown and then add in another 1 million in the suburbs and rural area. Nova is huge area wise but culturally almost identical to DC. I would descrive the entire DMV area more as one big metropolis individual cities making up a metro area.

[quote]Who the hell wears Brooks Brothers dress shirts with the sleeves rolled up and khaki shorts out to a bar?

Well, what do YOU wear to a bar?

You think DC is snide but you’re hanging out on dataLounge?

I like cities with large open spaces such as the DC Mall. It’s welcoming. It’s clean, open, relatively safe for a city, and has endless cultural events and activities to partake in. I enjoyed DC more than Houston, Dallas, Denver, NYC, LA, etc.

As if R9 can tell the difference between a Jew and an Armenian.

I don’t own any khakis or tortoiseshell framed glasses so I wouldn’t fit in.

So no one, I emphasize "no one" at all, wanted to fuck OP in DC.

SAD!!!

R31 Even if that’s true, I’d say he didn’t miss much. I don’t miss that place at all. “LA for ugly people“ is the best description I’ve ever heard.

R31 I actually fucked two guys that were in town from New York. No big shock there. I wasn’t able to provide my résumé to any of the guys in DC so I was turned down.

R9 like r18 I agree with your first few sentences but you lost me at the pointless anti semitic jabs. Anyway the nastiest, most vile people I encountered there weren't even jewish. R16 Kind of though it's not *quite* as bad as the MD suburbs. It's extraordinarily dull more than anything. There's a nice waterfront in Alexandria and some pretty parks tbf. If you want to understand the Washington metropolitan area picture the most type A Tracy Flick assholes from every state in the union. Now imagine the worst traits of the northeast ( brusque, rude, dismissive) with the worst traits of so called middle america ( conformist, bigoted and judgemental towards anyone different). With none of the good qualities of either region. And yes they are hilariously snobby. 100x worse than L.A..

I grew up on the Maryland side, and went to elementary school in Potomac. And those Jewish kids were some of the meanest people I’ve even encountered in my life. If they’re that mean at such a young age, imagine how they are in adulthood.

OP, on behalf of DC, please don't return.

[quote]That’s exactly what I encountered. Who the hell wears Brooks Brothers dress shirts with the sleeves rolled up and khaki shorts out to a bar

I know two Dataloungers who dress like that.

R16 I would add only move to NOVA or the DC area if you are an extremely career oriented person. Like the live to work rather than work to live type. If that's not you I would avoid the area entirely. Or maybe if you are really into museums. There just isn't anything to offer compared to other metropolitan areas.

R35, why demean all Jews?

R34 love the tracy flick refernce. It’s 100% true

R34 agreed

R9 your anti-semitism yapping about where the hot Jews were sent after WWII and your whining about the mean Jewish students at your Potomac elementary school is actually worse than DC and its suburbs.

So I guess you’ve really achieved something in that sense. Bravo.

I remember a club there called (I think) The Chesapeake House. Naked strippers on the bar. DC wasn’t always dull.

So glad Im out of there

Surely you found the Washington Monument appealing, no?

It’s a great city for introverts. I’m independent and prefer entertaining myself so I’m somewhat oblivious to the assholes that have been described here. I love losing track of time in Rock Creek Park, popping into museums on my lunch break, shopping and eating in Georgetown, seeing free shows at the Kennedy Center, and biking around the city. I love the architecture, the history, and the views - seeing sky in an urban setting. The greatest weakness of DC is the food as compared to other cities.

R37 you know two Dataloungers?? Like, know know? Is this common? How alarming. I wouldn't want to know any of you at all IRL.

Another clueless dolt (OP) that appears to have no idea of what it is possible to see in DC relevant to the history of the US.

To R37, I know lots of guys who dress like that in the summer in Wash DC (including myself). It's a great place to wander around& have fun like R46 posted. Great Museums in DC (and men too). If I get horny, I can always find a man to take back to my home.

I remember going to a gay bar in DC while on a business trip that had telephones at each table with the table number positioned above the table. You could use your phone to call up the guy you were interested in. I didn't realize all of this because I had just finished a long business dinner and I just went in there for a nightcap before heading back to my hotel.

I sat down and ordered a Grand Marnier and all of a sudden my phone starts ringing off the wall. I was terrified because my phone was ringing and the tables next to me were staring at me. I picked up the phone and a man's voice on the other end said, "Would you like that hot ass eaten?" I said, "I most certainly do not!!!" and slammed down the phone. I chugged my drink and got the hell out of there.

r9 strikes me as the type of person who hits on someone and then tells them they're "not that hot anyway" when they decline to fuck him. If you think they're lowly "5s" then why the fuck are you even talking to them? As a west coast person, your casual antisemitism seems really quaint to me. You give yourself away with the nasty comment about the nose sizes of jewish people. You're just a nasty piece of shit and probably not as good looking as you think.

I love DC. I lived there for 12 years. So many smart, accomplished people. Everywhere else I’ve been, people just seem a little…dumb.

But I get it’s not for everyone.

I love DC to bits, but it doesn’t have the range!

I know what you mean. DC is pathetic.

Transient temporary people on gigs forms great part of The pre you run into in dc.

I remember reading about an adult theater in DC where several congressmen would go for discreet blowjobs. Not sure it's around anymore.

Three of its quadrants should just be nuked. Southeast especially. Jesus, so much of DC is a feral shit hole.

The promise of power and prestige in government attracts the worst types of go-getters from all over the country, so of course DC is a hell mouth. Guys there may be accomplished, but that's all. I'd go for a unaccomplished good person over an accomplished cunt.

R58 Can you imagine wanting power and prestige in the government? What a bunch of tools.

DC is 90% black. End of thread, fuckers.

^ Lying drama queen. According to the US government, the capital city is 46% black. So when you say you're dick is 6" it's really 3" apparently.

R60, is probably talking about historically. And though blacks are no longer majority of the city proper they still are the biggest ethnic group of any race. The DC metro area has to be one of the blackest in the nation.

My niece in her early 20s just moved to the VanNess area, is that an ok area?

We suggested the January 6th rioters should have been bused to Anacostia in all their regalia. Problem solved.

Please leave

Why did so many people in DC have preppy snob names?

Like Whitney Worthington. I think some horrible preppy 80s movie

In the Mid-Atlantic region, the As go to NYC, the Bs go to DC. In other words, if you are from the Philadelphia region and have a lot going for you, you move to NYC. If you are better than average, but not that special, you move to DC.

Also, DC has a rather 19th century, Edith Warton element. A lot of gay life is not in bars, but at dinner parties and social events. Even if one is in one's 20s, there is a level where you go to $300.00 a ticket benefits to meet people, not bars. It is part of the live to work mentality. Every social interaction is seen through the lens of "Will this help of hurt my career." I suppose if one wants to keep a job across administrations, it is necessary.

I also think this is why it is foolish to complain about Brooks Bros. shirts at a gay bar. *Everything* one wears to a gay bar is a form of tribal wear. By wearing Brooks Bros., the person is saying, "I am part of this tribe. If you are not part of my tribe, go away." It is no different is one wears leather, Supreme, or Dockers.

I suspect everyone is overreacting to R9s comments about Jews. It sounds more like he wants a nice, attractive, Jewish boyfriend, but nobody will give him the time of day.

R67 Fantastic explanation. Creative interesting and edgy people go to New York. Boring dull and ugly academics go to DC.

[quote] DMV area is full of the worst people in the U.S.. Just horrible, horrible personalities. Snide, nasty, and very judgemental.

Why would you hang around The Department of Motor Vehicles?

R68, not exactly. Boring, dull academics at the top of their field, regardless of looks, go to NYC . Boring, dull academics who are good, but not great, go to DC.

Total disclosure: Boring, dull academics with dad bods are exactly my type. I know the hunting grounds well.

Lollll r67. The hunting grounds. Love it.

DC folk Keep Brooks Brothers Lilly Pulitzer Casual Connor & vineyard vines in business. Zero fashion sense whatsoever in DC

The city is beautiful, but the gay guys are cold, clannish, snobbish and arrogant. In Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, particularly, they're insufferable and elitist.

R73 Don’t forget ugly

Boring dull academics at the top of their field go to NY? I am fairly sure there are just as many of them in Boston or Chicago.

R73 Rehobeth is awful! It’s a bunch of pasty old fags sitting around wearing brown loafers in the sand. Their conversations are equally as boring. Most of them discussing antiques & what so & so does for a living

I lived in DC/NOVA for quite a few years.

I loved it, but it is a sleepy town. Politics is everything.

The Metro has changed DC a lot. Before, you needed a car to get around for everything.

Can it compare to NYC in nightlife or theatre. No for the first. But it has nice restaurants, great museums, and one or two good theaters.

If you're into running or cycling, it's great.

And if you are into guys...even better. Had quite a good time with a few. And USMC men to boot.

And, believe me, there's nothing like screwing a US Marine!!

R77 Agreed I also dated a marine..the best part about it was walking around DC making fun of people.

Do t say that -- I'm on my way there now. Have pegged some fine looking restaurants, going to the zoo, and plan on walking all over. I've enjoyed it in the past many years ago and hope to do so again.

What a miserable city.

Went to a summer cocktail party with a friend back in the nineties. DuPont Circle crowd. The fourteenth floor of some high-rise.

What a bunch of stuck up trash, completely consumed by money and position. And quite the bigots. Limousine liberals are the worst. They talk a good game, but they are just as intolerant and paternalistic as right wingers. Could not wait to leave. My friend even apologized for their behavior. Even the people in my friend’s mid-rise in Adams Morgan were barely tolerable.

And the bars…don’t get me started.

R81 100 % accurate description. Nothing has changed since the 90s

Whew. Thanks for letting us know, Donald, as we've been planning to visit sometime relatively soon.

R83 You’re welcome now don’t forget to bring your resume! It’s a requirement to hook up

This has been a good thread. I enjoyed reading it. Hello, Phillywhore, you fascinating individual, you.

Some of you should visit the black, non hood parts of the city. You might have a good time.

R81, there are no 14 story buildings in Dupont Circle.

[quote]DMV area is full of the worst people in the U.S.. Just horrible, horrible personalities. Snide, nasty, and very judgemental.

So it's like living inside DL?

I feel sorry for people who can't seem to be able to find nice or decent people in DC. DC is a lovely place to live - well, until recently. It really has become much more dangerous, and this safety risk is now all over and very random as to places, times and victims. I think people are not fully aware of this yet.

I have lived here a very long time and I have had wonderful friends with great values and interesting lives who have been supportive and fun friends. I have met them everywhere including through work.

Maybe you are looking in the wrong places or you just aren't good at judging people to begin with.

r50, You were at The Pier (9), now lost in the mists of time, and where I spent many treasured nights; it was the best of times, the worst of times . . . very provincial, but at the same time endearing . . . who remembers brunch at Mr Henry's, the great thunderstorms, the surprise snowfalls, the gorgeous springs, private parties where you could meet absolutely anyone, and the humidity :).

Our collegiate madrigal group had toured west/east coasts & Europe, but the school apparently didn't approve of my 06:00 arrival back at the dorm, still rendolent with last night's fragrances, or maybe it was the intense fucking of my dear late Ronnie; in any case, I was dismissed and found myself in SoCal, where I remain :).

0P Just add it to your list Gus.

R91 He definitely needs a D.C rehabilitation. For now they would probably throw him in the river for having too many tattoos. He’s far to creative an interesting for anyone in boring as fuck DC. Perhaps speak could cover up all his tattoos give him a pair of Brooks brothers pants & coach him on what to say at dinner parties.

I’d rather poke my eyes out than sit at a boring ass dinner party in DC .

I'm old, fat, and from San Francisco. Visited DC 3 years ago. Stayed in DuPont Circle. I saw stunning homes and gardens and met friendly people in the gayborhood. Really enjoyed my visit and will return one day. Went to a gay bear bar near the Howard University neighborhood. It was fun, but all white, in the middle of a black neighborhood. That was weird. Visited my cousin and his husbear, who live in Alexandria, VA. The old town was beautiful, but I could sense a sinister history of racism and slavery. It creeped me out. That's the closest to The South I've ever been. I did notice that khakis and Oxford shirts is the uniform, but I don't have enough time to judge people on what they wear. Also went to Rehoboth Beach, which did not seem snobby to me. Wouldn't want to live there, but I don't get the hate on DC.

[quote] "Dull and boring? DC is a city rich with history and diversity! There are countless free museums and free events."

I'm with R2. I spent a lot of time there as a student, and in my early twenties. I love D.C.

[quote]who live in Alexandria, VA. The old town was beautiful, but I could sense a sinister history of racism and slavery.

What do you mean you could sense it?

[quote] Who the hell wears Brooks Brothers dress shirts with the sleeves rolled up and khaki shorts out to a bar?

They do, and they're better than you.

R97 Only in DC do they think they’re better than you. — everywhere else in the world they’re laughed at. DCS like vanilla yogurt. No taste no substance no flavor nothing

So vanilla isn't a flavor anymore?

Vanilla-flavoring comes from beaver anal glands.

I love Vanilla. Especially French vanilla. Yum. On a sugar cone.

R100 Do your research, Mary, and don't generalize. Any production of artificial vanilla flavoring containing such gland material is extremely limited and nearly all in the US are vegan, actually.

I don’t own anything blue or khaki. Will they toss me in the river? Why do they dress like they work at Best Buy?

R103 No, they're not that dramatic. Just expect lots of weird, frozen Nancy Reaganesque stares for not wearing The Approved Uniform. The creepy blink- free stare is a Washington D.C. area specialty. You never, ever see this mannerism in people from other major metropolitan areas. Or even the smaller cities.

To the reich-wing trolls who keep starting the "I hate WHATEVER U. S. CITY": Do you get paid a lot for all the anti-American propaganda?

[quote]Why do they dress like they work at Best Buy?

Don't Best Buy employees wear bright blue polo shirts? The Brooks Brothers shirts in question are OCBDs (Oxford Cloth Button Downs), which come in pastels like pink, yellow, and blue, as well as white. The good ones, i.e., not "no-iron", no longer come in neck and sleeve lengths, however. Just XS-XXL.

R106 How original and ground breaking. Will they give me this uniform as I enter the city? I wouldn’t wanna offend anyone 🤮

If the only thing you have to offer in conversation is politics, nonprofits, government, and government contracting save us some time & throw yourself in the river— a long with all the asshole attorneys.

[quote]How original and ground breaking. Will they give me this uniform as I enter the city? I wouldn’t wanna offend anyone.

Wow, someone actually believes everything he reads on DL.

[quote]How original and ground breaking.

"Original and ground breaking"? What gave you that idea? You were expecting "original and ground breaking"? O foolish man.

R110 Nothing is original and groundbreaking in DC. It’s a bunch of robot drones with zero creativity.

[quote]Nothing is original and groundbreaking in DC. It’s a bunch of robot drones with zero creativity.

D.C. has very active and very creative theater and arts scenes, but I suppose mindless generalizations are more fun for people who don't know the city at all.

Yes, someone is definitely lying, I think the rule is that the buildings in DC cant obscure the view of the capitol.

Buildings can't be taller than the Capitol, R113. Hence no high-rises in D.C.

R112 Yes full of old ladies & govt nerds watching plays about Grover Cleveland.

DC is a subtlety impressive, old, historic city. The Metro is great. Beware of young black men: DO NOT ADDRESS THEM; they are too COOL for that which makes it kind of difficult when you are visiting a government building and need directions to the office you are expected at and they are the security. They will ignore you and glare at you with infamy: 'find your own way, mister' is the message.

The restaurant scene leaves much to be desired.

I remember Adams Morgan having some decent fare. And there used to be a nice bookstore/brunch place in Dupont Circle. Must be gone by now.

[quote] I think the rule is that the buildings in DC cant obscure the view of the capitol.

[quote] Buildings can't be taller than the Capitol

Neither of these are true.

The building height was due to a very early 20th century fire code. It has more to do with the fact that buildings cannot be taller than something like 20 or 30 feet taller than the width of the street they face. Something like that. Very mundane I'm afraid. The only exception is a part of downtown Pennsylvania Avenue NW. That old law was never repealed when it became no longer necessary but by then people appreciated how open this height restriction made the city and they never repealed it. It means that there are almost no building in town higher than 13 stories.

I love that I can see the Washington Monument from my windows. Every time they start a new building, I worry that they will change the law. I have an incredible view of the city to my south and across the river to Roslyn. It also means I can see the fireworks from the comfort of my air-conditioned home. Ah the memories of my youth when I never missed a Fourth on the Ellipse sometimes with the Beach Boys and the Concert at the Capitol. I guess I could handle heat better then. Walking home after the festivities through the nighttime streets of downtown Washington with friendly hordes of people celebrating was actually magical. I am so easily impressed.

People who don't actually live here have no idea what it's like. Happy Fourth!

[quote]And there used to be a nice bookstore/brunch place in Dupont Circle. Must be gone by now.

It's still there.