Substituting one type of nightmare for an entirely different one?
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Substituting one type of nightmare for an entirely different one?
|by Anonymous||reply 602||June 23, 2022 8:36 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 1||June 19, 2022 8:29 PM|
A little premature, but thanks, OP.
(maybe you coulda spent a few more minutes on your title, huh?)
|by Anonymous||reply 2||June 19, 2022 8:37 PM|
Not premature at all, r2. The last thread was at r590, so it was time for a new thread so the link could be posted there before it ended.
If you can't figure that out, it casts doubt on your reasoning skills and makes the rest of your opinion dubious, huh?
|by Anonymous||reply 3||June 19, 2022 8:41 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 4||June 19, 2022 8:43 PM|
The cuntitude at OP's of new threads isn't even amusing. This is why you have no friends, Miss Dunaway at r2.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||June 19, 2022 8:45 PM|
OPs title begs the question of DLs theatre insiders: what tales can you tell of when a cast replacement became a case of trading one set of problems for another?
|by Anonymous||reply 6||June 19, 2022 8:46 PM|
Someone on the last thread said Jodie Comer has fans who follow her everywhere.
Where would that be?
She has not done much live performance, only a few television shows, and films.
Are we to believe her young fans are avid watchers of Talking Heads and Doctor Foster?
|by Anonymous||reply 7||June 19, 2022 8:46 PM|
Its so weird that this is the most interesting show of the season.....for all the wrong reasons....
|by Anonymous||reply 8||June 19, 2022 8:47 PM|
OPs title begs the question of DLs theatre insiders: Is there anything less relevant that DLs theatre insiders?
|by Anonymous||reply 9||June 19, 2022 8:48 PM|
Jodi Comer has no fans.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||June 19, 2022 8:50 PM|
THE FAGGOT was never on Broadway, R600 from the previous thread. But, excellent, admirable try. I applaud you! Let's rediscover this gem!
|by Anonymous||reply 11||June 19, 2022 8:52 PM|
Is that a rule, that they have to be Broadway flops? Sorry!
|by Anonymous||reply 12||June 19, 2022 8:55 PM|
I wish that people hadn't abandoned the correct usage of the expression "beg the question."
|by Anonymous||reply 13||June 19, 2022 8:58 PM|
The problem is that no one needs an idiom that means what the explanation at R13 says it means. It's too niche.
But we do need an idiom for "what you are saying raises a question."
That is why everyone misuses this phrase.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||June 19, 2022 9:07 PM|
It isn't a problem that keeps me awake at night.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||June 19, 2022 9:13 PM|
Where does it say that Matt Doyle will be out this Tuesday, June 21? I'm seeing COMPANY that night and wanted to see him, darn.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||June 19, 2022 9:18 PM|
I was sad to see The Human Comedy included with the list of Broadway flops at the end of the last thread. That show has a wonderful score, and had some great performances. It was, I admit, a flop.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||June 19, 2022 9:18 PM|
I saw it off-Broadway. It was good, but I could not imagine it doing well in a big house.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||June 19, 2022 9:25 PM|
The Human Comedy
|by Anonymous||reply 19||June 19, 2022 9:25 PM|
Dolls! I know I said I’d NEVER do another musical but I think I’ll probably be done with Company in November, so what should my next (final) show be?
And if one of you queens suggest I play Lea Michele’s mom in Funny Girl I will slap you into Tuesday!
|by Anonymous||reply 20||June 19, 2022 9:33 PM|
I Do! I Do! with Mandy.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||June 19, 2022 9:34 PM|
This fall, at the Lunt-Fontanne, Patti IS ... LEONA!
|by Anonymous||reply 22||June 19, 2022 9:37 PM|
Everybody Loathes Leona!
|by Anonymous||reply 23||June 19, 2022 9:39 PM|
Patti should take over for Hugh in MM
|by Anonymous||reply 24||June 19, 2022 9:40 PM|
She Who Gets Slapped
|by Anonymous||reply 25||June 19, 2022 9:43 PM|
Never in a million years, but surely Patti and Bernadette doing a reading of Legends! would raise a lot of money for charity, right?
|by Anonymous||reply 26||June 19, 2022 9:45 PM|
Matt Doyle is a kween!!! She almost down Radio City Music Hall during her acceptance.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||June 19, 2022 9:48 PM|
I don't know r10 she sold out a West End theatre for many weeks but maybe couldn't make up for the lack of Affleck or Damon's fans with the movie. Essentially the crux of both the film and play are the same, sexual assault. Folks were okay to watch a story about it on stage but not on screen.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||June 19, 2022 9:51 PM|
Patti should be Blanche along with Bernadette Peters' Baby Jane in a good version (I think they've tried that weren't so hot) of "Whatever Happened to Baby Jane". Bernadette's cutesy shtick would still work if she allowed it to really go all-out. And she could still show her décolletage if she wanted to (she usually wants to).
|by Anonymous||reply 29||June 19, 2022 9:54 PM|
I was surprised to hear a few guys at work watched The Last Duel, they are younger, 30 -40ish, they watched for Jodie Comer.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||June 19, 2022 9:54 PM|
Betty Lynn would make more sense as Blanche. Patti is too down and dirty for that role.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||June 19, 2022 9:55 PM|
Jodie Comer has been well received in that assassin thing. I'm surprised that others thin she has no fans.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||June 19, 2022 9:56 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 33||June 19, 2022 9:56 PM|
But I could see Patti really milking the scene where she falls out of the wheelchair. Jazz hands as she tries to reach for the phone, too!
|by Anonymous||reply 34||June 19, 2022 9:56 PM|
Jodie also has a lot of other actors who are fans of hers, plenty of celebrities spotted going to that play.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||June 19, 2022 9:59 PM|
Don't ask Patti to do choreography...
|by Anonymous||reply 36||June 19, 2022 10:01 PM|
Hasn't that screen show, "I May Destroy You" or whatever it's called, been as success?
|by Anonymous||reply 37||June 19, 2022 10:06 PM|
r16, Doyle posted it in his Instagram stories yesterday, saying he would be out Tuesday the 21st and Javier Ignacio would be on. Ignacio cross posted it to his Instagram stories. Both have expired now and it didn't occur to me to save a screenshot.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||June 19, 2022 10:07 PM|
[quote]Patti really milking
|by Anonymous||reply 39||June 19, 2022 10:14 PM|
Patti LuPone is unlikely to want to work with the woman she claims was given "her" GYPSY (the Mendes production).
|by Anonymous||reply 40||June 19, 2022 10:16 PM|
Patti also felt that Imelda was given "her" GYPSY.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||June 19, 2022 10:18 PM|
On All That Chat, someone recently started a thread about the strong rumor that Lea Michele will be taking over in FUNNY GIRL, to which the one and only mlop replied:
[quote]She was once being considered when they were planning to revive “Funny Girl” year back and had her perform a song at the Tony Awards coming down the aisle of Radio City Music Hall.
You can't make this shit up, But really, that comment is one for the books. Even from mlop. I expect her next post to be something like.....
[quote] They're going to do Oliver! at Encores! next year. The show originally opened in London years ago and then came to Broadway. There was a movie version in 1968, and it won Best Picture.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||June 19, 2022 10:28 PM|
mlop is the Susan Boyle of ATC, minus the singing aspirations), isn't she? It's rather like shooting fish in a barrel.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||June 19, 2022 10:31 PM|
r16, just saw on another understudy's page that she'll be on as Sarah this Tuesday and Wednesday. So if you wanted to be Simard, she may be out. (The alternative would be that she's covering Joanne those nights and Patti is out. But after missing so much of this week that seems unlikely. Maybe.)
|by Anonymous||reply 44||June 19, 2022 10:43 PM|
Heh, that should be, if you wanted to **see** Simard...
|by Anonymous||reply 45||June 19, 2022 10:44 PM|
mlop's actually rather a very nice woman -- she's a theater photographer and has had access to backstage with the Beatles years ago, as well as other press passes. She can't help it if she is ATC's Mrs. Malaprop when she writes.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||June 19, 2022 10:46 PM|
I will never think of her without Chits Rivers lifting her leg.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||June 19, 2022 10:48 PM|
mlop is a Broadway treasure.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||June 19, 2022 10:52 PM|
To be truly mlopian, r42, you’ll need far more misspellings
|by Anonymous||reply 49||June 19, 2022 11:02 PM|
Patti LuPone *IS* Matron Mama Morton
8 weeks only!
|by Anonymous||reply 50||June 19, 2022 11:05 PM|
Wasn't Patti(or Bernadette, I forget) supposed to do Gypsy in London
|by Anonymous||reply 51||June 19, 2022 11:24 PM|
Tyne Dale was supposed to do it in London but the Gulf War scuppered that. Patti claims that she was supposed to take the Laurents production to London. Patti has never been box office ther so I doubt it would have ever happened.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||June 19, 2022 11:26 PM|
R46, but aside from her malapropisms, what she wrote about Lea Michele and "Funny Girl" was such common knowledge that it made her sound like a complete idiot.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||June 19, 2022 11:28 PM|
Could Fanny's mother be rewritten to be Fanny's grandmother? With an artificial hip. Patti could play that.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||June 19, 2022 11:30 PM|
No it didn't, r53, it made her sound like mlop.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||June 19, 2022 11:32 PM|
50 yrs of Broadway at the Kennedy Center.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||June 19, 2022 11:32 PM|
[r52] Patti and Arthur Laurents famously made up during Gypsy on Broadway but then got on the outs again when she did NOT go to London with it when he wanted her to afterward. She instead signed on for the HBO pilot that was somewhat based on Stephen Sondheim. Naturally the whole fiasco blew up in Patti’s face because the show wasn’t picked up to series, AND she lost her relationship with Arthur
|by Anonymous||reply 57||June 19, 2022 11:34 PM|
R56 Is that being broadcast in full?
R57 Oh fuck Laurents, that cunt.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||June 19, 2022 11:37 PM|
[quote]AND she lost her relationship with Arthur
Something's lost, something 's gained...
|by Anonymous||reply 59||June 19, 2022 11:38 PM|
Where does the story come from that she wept for days after losing the role of Janice Soprano to Aida Turturro?
|by Anonymous||reply 60||June 19, 2022 11:38 PM|
Frances Farmer played Lorna Moon in the Clifford Odets-Group Theatre first production of "Golden Boy."
She was canned from the production when it went to London and her part was played by Lillian Emerson, the heiress to the Bromo Seltzer fortune whose family paid for the trip over and other production costs of the show there.
So Beano's situation is nothing new.....no business like it!
|by Anonymous||reply 61||June 20, 2022 12:04 AM|
Patti should do a revival of "Auntie Mame" for Roundabout.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||June 20, 2022 12:10 AM|
It wasn’t just the Gulf War that kept the Tyne Daly revival of Gypsy from going to London it was also because the exchange rate then was extremely bad (one pound equaled two dollars) so it was cost prohibitive on the US side.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||June 20, 2022 12:15 AM|
I didn’t realize Mame’s grandma was a character in the show
|by Anonymous||reply 64||June 20, 2022 12:17 AM|
[quote] [R56] Is that being broadcast in full? I hope so.
I really have no idea. I think it took place in Feb.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||June 20, 2022 12:23 AM|
[quote]Sadly, the producers ... have no interest in cultivating minority audiences...
This quote is from the last thread. It reminded me that there was one Broadway producer/promoter - Norman Kean, a white man - who made a career of producing shows for the black audience. He was quite good at it. While his name was not always on the marquee, he worked on several Broadway and off-Broadway shows in the 60s, 70s, and 80s including Don't Bother Me, I Can't Cope, Me and Bessie, Guys and Dolls with Robert Guillaume, shows by Vinnette Carroll and Micki Grant, etc. The flop musical A Broadway Musical was loosely based on his life. He was a bit of a scoundrel in the style of David Merrick. ironically, his biggest hit was the long-running revival of Oh! Calcutta!
And his protege - who learned all his tricks at the foot of his master - was Garth Drabinsky.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||June 20, 2022 12:45 AM|
[quote]Patti should do a revival of "Auntie Mame"
Please, NO! She'd put the maim in Mame.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||June 20, 2022 12:46 AM|
Norman Kean is the producer who went quietly nuts and murdered his wife (actress Gwyda Donhowe) and then killed himself. Their teenage son found the bodies when he got home from school.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||June 20, 2022 1:07 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 69||June 20, 2022 1:08 AM|
[quote] Jodie Comer has been well received in that assassin thing. I'm surprised that others thin she has no fans.
I was making a joke, signing the post Ridley Scott. I have no idea if Jodie Comer has fans or not but I would assume someone likes her if she shows up in things.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||June 20, 2022 1:19 AM|
I had no idea Patti Lupone was up for the role of Janice on The Sopranos. If they hired Aida Turturro because they wanted to avoid Patti's reputation of being difficult, that sure backfired on them. They actually wrote Janice out because Aida was such a pain in the ass and was not really delivering. They packed her off on a bus for Seattle. But then Nancy Marchand died in between seasons and they needed that combative female family member dynamic for Tony and reluctantly brought her back.
I will say they managed to find something for her to do, and Aida was good enough in the show, but both having worked with her on something else, and having friends on the set of The Sopranos who told me stories about her behavior, I can tell you she's no picnic.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||June 20, 2022 1:24 AM|
The most tragic thing about that Norman Kean murder/suicide story is that the producer of Oh, Calcutta was living with his wife and 14 year old son in a three room apartment.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||June 20, 2022 1:25 AM|
Three room, or three bedroom?
|by Anonymous||reply 73||June 20, 2022 1:55 AM|
Can someone start a Tasteful Friends Very Special Thread?
|by Anonymous||reply 74||June 20, 2022 1:57 AM|
[quote] Three room, or three bedroom?
The NYT article said a three-room corner apartment.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||June 20, 2022 1:58 AM|
I love how R66 just said "he was a bit of a scoundrel" without mentioning that he, well, murdered his wife.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||June 20, 2022 2:00 AM|
He should have applied to Manhattan Plaza. Spacious, and surprisingly well priced!
|by Anonymous||reply 77||June 20, 2022 2:02 AM|
[quote] The NYT article said a three-room corner apartment.
Rumor has it, it was the same "Three Sunny Rooms" shared by Avram Cohen and Rachel Brodsky nearly 7 decades prior.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||June 20, 2022 2:08 AM|
Rags, r78! RAAAAGGGS!
|by Anonymous||reply 79||June 20, 2022 2:12 AM|
What were the "backstage crazy" stories at PROOF with Mary-Louise Parker who was replaced by Jennifer Jason Leigh who was replaced by Ann Heche? Crazy, crazier, craziest. That was supposedly 2+ years of CRAZY.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||June 20, 2022 2:29 AM|
It takes a certain amount of crazy to be brilliant on stage.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||June 20, 2022 2:35 AM|
Why is there not a Take Me Out national tour?
|by Anonymous||reply 82||June 20, 2022 2:47 AM|
Why is there not a website with all the audience photos of that glorious cock buffet? Only to get a good look at yummy Tyler Weaks again.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||June 20, 2022 2:49 AM|
[quote] What were the "backstage crazy" stories at PROOF with Mary-Louise Parker who was replaced by Jennifer Jason Leigh who was replaced by Ann Heche? Crazy, crazier, craziest. That was supposedly 2+ years of CRAZY.
I only know one MLP story during Proof. I was told by a friend who worked at the theater that MLP wanted the producers to stop selling the first two rows of seats in the orchestra because the audience in them were distracting her while she was trying to act. When that didn't fly, she then tried to get them to not give out Playbills until the show was over because people were flipping through them during the performance (or so she said).
That reminded me of another story (this one I remember experiencing firsthand). When James Sutorius took over for Tony Shalhoub in Conversations with My Father, he complained that the front of the house staff was "moving too much" after the show started (i.e. seating latecomers) and he also tried to get the ushers barred from sitting on the back steps to the mezzanine because he could see them under the safety lights and it distracted him. He also wanted to do something about the bartenders making noise, but that was never going to happen. (None of it did, actually.)
|by Anonymous||reply 84||June 20, 2022 3:09 AM|
Do we think anything will come of that reading/workshop of the last Sondheim show that Bernadette and Nathan Lane participated in? Did anyone here actually attend?
|by Anonymous||reply 85||June 20, 2022 3:15 AM|
OP’s thread title made me laugh out loud, which hasn’t happened in a theatre thread in a long time.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||June 20, 2022 4:09 AM|
I've seen The Music Man in absolutely wonderful productions in summer stock (though not recently). I don't think I paid more than $30 a pop. I'm not about to pay more than three or five hundred dollars to see a a production that doesn't even include Onna White's fantastic choreography. I'll just stick my blu ray of the film back in the player.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||June 20, 2022 7:36 AM|
That film is a treasure.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||June 20, 2022 7:41 AM|
The blu ray of The Music Man is a mess. They remastered it but it needed a full restoration. The color has a brownish tinge over it which wasn't present in the original release prints. Technicolor and Super Technirama. It should look glorious, not OK.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||June 20, 2022 8:42 AM|
Morton DaCosta made two very fine films—Auntie Mame and Music Man—but only did one more, Island of Love, a dog. Both the hits he had already directed on Broadway. Wonder why he wasn't given more films.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||June 20, 2022 12:27 PM|
[quote]That reminded me of another story (this one I remember experiencing firsthand). When James Sutorius took over for Tony Shalhoub in Conversations with My Father, he complained that the front of the house staff was "moving too much" after the show started (i.e. seating latecomers)
Well, I'm with him on that. I think latecomers should only be seated, if at all, during scene breaks, otherwise it can indeed be very distracting to the actors AND the audience.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||June 20, 2022 12:56 PM|
[Quote] Why is there not a Take Me Out national tour?
No but nor truck big enough for the D
|by Anonymous||reply 92||June 20, 2022 1:02 PM|
Is this Gossip Thread #3?
|by Anonymous||reply 93||June 20, 2022 1:04 PM|
I don't really wanna do the work today.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||June 20, 2022 1:30 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 95||June 20, 2022 2:12 PM|
I guess Starmites is really a thread killer.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||June 20, 2022 5:55 PM|
No fault of Miss McKnight's...
|by Anonymous||reply 97||June 20, 2022 6:17 PM|
THIS DAY IN BROADWAY HISTORY: In 1955, "Almost Crazy" opened at the Longacre Theatre.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||June 20, 2022 6:27 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 99||June 20, 2022 6:30 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 100||June 20, 2022 6:43 PM|
It featured Miss Kay Medford...
|by Anonymous||reply 101||June 20, 2022 6:44 PM|
What’s that play where the old lady is buried up to her neck? That’s the role for LuPone.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||June 20, 2022 6:49 PM|
Happy Days. The one where The Fonz shows up and forces the old lady to blow him.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||June 20, 2022 6:57 PM|
I've already done Happy Days, bitches.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||June 20, 2022 6:58 PM|
I saw Happy Days with Miss Wiest.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||June 20, 2022 6:58 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 106||June 20, 2022 7:01 PM|
I saw Happy End with Miss Streep.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||June 20, 2022 7:05 PM|
How was she, r107?
|by Anonymous||reply 108||June 20, 2022 7:09 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 109||June 20, 2022 7:12 PM|
Do I Hear a Waltz is not about an old Italian woman in Venice.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||June 20, 2022 7:26 PM|
Well, Americans aren't Italian so duh...
|by Anonymous||reply 111||June 20, 2022 7:33 PM|
The rest of the creative team wanted Dorothy Collins for Do I Hear a Waltz but Richard Rodgers was producing as well composing and he was screwing Elizabeth Allen so Dorothy didn't have a chance. Dorothy got rave reviews regionally when she did the part later, including at Paper Mill.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||June 20, 2022 7:35 PM|
Dorothy Collins was also passed over for the Lincol Center revival of South Pacific. She would have sang it way better than Woman of Two Voices, Florence Henderson.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||June 20, 2022 7:47 PM|
Dorothy couldn't catch a break. No Leona, no Bea, and no Tony.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||June 20, 2022 7:47 PM|
Two eye witnesses to Patti's meltdown backstage at The Tony's after she won. There was a stage management screw up, and she was taken to the wrong side of the stage, and just left there, instead of being taken to the press room, which was on the other side. After a minute or two, the SHIT hit the fan, and she walked.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||June 20, 2022 7:49 PM|
Dorothy was also runner up for She Loves Me but she hadn't done Broadway at that point and Barbara was much bigger Box Office.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||June 20, 2022 7:51 PM|
And that's why she was out of Company early in the week, r115?
|by Anonymous||reply 117||June 20, 2022 7:55 PM|
[quote] wo eye witnesses to Patti's meltdown backstage at The Tony's after she won. There was a stage management screw up, and she was taken to the wrong side of the stage, and just left there, instead of being taken to the press room, which was on the other side. After a minute or two, the SHIT hit the fan, and she walked.
No one except DL theater queens cares about that diva cunt.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||June 20, 2022 8:08 PM|
[quote]She would have sang it way better than Woman of Two Voices, Florence Henderson.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||June 20, 2022 8:12 PM|
Henderson is really dreadful on the recording but Giorgio Tozzi is wonderful as de Becque. He sings out fully as opposed to the crooning he was forced to do on the soundtrack. She sounds like she's having some kind of vocal crisis.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||June 20, 2022 8:21 PM|
Flo was the Cilla Black of Broadway singers. The chest and head voices were completely unrelated.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||June 20, 2022 8:23 PM|
[quote]The chest and head voices were completely unrelated.
Rather like Bernadette singing "Children Will Listen" at the Tony Awards.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||June 20, 2022 8:25 PM|
Poor Bernie. She really has passed her sell-by date as a singer, and the TONY performance confirmed it.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||June 20, 2022 8:29 PM|
[quote]Henderson is really dreadful on the recording but Giorgio Tozzi is wonderful as de Becque. He sings out fully as opposed to the crooning he was forced to do on the soundtrack. She sounds like she's having some kind of vocal crisis.
Vocal crisis? No need to exaggerate. It's just that there's a big difference in quality between her chest voice and her soprano register, which of course is more of a problem in some songs o that album than in others.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||June 20, 2022 8:47 PM|
[quote]There was a stage management screw up, and she was taken to the wrong side of the stage
That doesn't really make any sense, given her award was presented on the side of the stage. So what, she was meant to exit by walking across the entire stage to the other side? Not to mention there was a cameraman showing her coming off stage, so she was clearly on the right side of the stage.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||June 20, 2022 8:52 PM|
There’s no pulling the wool over r125’s eyes!
|by Anonymous||reply 126||June 20, 2022 9:03 PM|
R125's response reminded me that I thought it was a mistake to have the cameras follow some of the winners offstage into the wings. because it looked like at least some of the winners were unprepared and/or unhappy about being on camera at that moment.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||June 20, 2022 9:30 PM|
r127 Though it does let you see the moment when Patti realises she didn't mention Sondheim in her speech.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||June 20, 2022 9:34 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 129||June 20, 2022 9:37 PM|
Tozzi sang on the soundtrack the way Richard Rodgers wanted him to. How did Henderson ever get a job in anything? How in hell did she get a big budget Cinerama movie? She's somebody whose popularity I never got in the least. A very annoying individual. Thank God she was never cast on screen in a Richard Rodgers musical. She wanted Oklahoma so bad. Imagine her in Shirley Jones', Mitzi Gaynor's and Julie Andrews' parts. I wonder if Disney ever considered her for Mary Poppins.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||June 20, 2022 10:42 PM|
Song of Norway wasn't in Cinerama, r130.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||June 20, 2022 10:58 PM|
What do u mean shit hit the fan regarding Patti? The whole things seemed weird from her not doing press after winning, to leaving before they even announced revival.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||June 20, 2022 11:05 PM|
I'd never have recognized Florence here.
|by Anonymous||reply 133||June 20, 2022 11:13 PM|
Florence was one of the first Marias in Sound of Music in a national tour. Came to Detroit, but I couldn't get a ticket,
|by Anonymous||reply 134||June 20, 2022 11:34 PM|
Blended families were my bread & butter!
|by Anonymous||reply 135||June 20, 2022 11:36 PM|
I saw Henderson in South Pacific. I wasn't impressed.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||June 20, 2022 11:43 PM|
[Quote] Patti should do a revival of "Auntie Mame" for Roundabout.
Actually why not Mame? SHE should be the star of a revival of the musical
|by Anonymous||reply 137||June 20, 2022 11:44 PM|
[quote]Song of Norway wasn't in Cinerama, [R130].
Actually it was and it wasn't. It was shot in Super Panavision 70 but on initial showings was seen in Cinerama theaters on the big Cinerama screen. It was advertised as being shown in Cinerama. 2001: A Space Odyssey and several other blockbusters of the period received this treatment and advertising.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||June 20, 2022 11:44 PM|
Though Dorothy Collins remained a lovely person with a beautiful voice into the 1960s, all those years of performing every song under the sun, week after week after week on 1950s TV's cheesey Your Hit Parade left a kind of sad stink on her reputation and she would have been no one's idea of a Broadway leading lady, no matter how well she could put the songs over. Sadly, she had "has-been" written all over her.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||June 20, 2022 11:45 PM|
Could "Fanny" be revived today?
|by Anonymous||reply 140||June 20, 2022 11:47 PM|
Barbara Cook, who toured as Ado Annie in the early 1950s with Florence Henderson as Laurie, said Florence was perfect in the role.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||June 21, 2022 12:13 AM|
Nothing before 2000 can be revived today without EXTENSIVE revisions, according to the new regime out there.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||June 21, 2022 12:25 AM|
Well, r138, it didn't play at the Cinerama theater in Denver, so it was not advertised as such...in Denver.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||June 21, 2022 12:44 AM|
Also, r138, I don't think they'd contractually allow the movie to be advertised as *in* Cinerama even though it's being shown on a Cinerama screen. 2001 was touted as being in 70mm.
|by Anonymous||reply 144||June 21, 2022 12:52 AM|
Ads for Song of Noway touting that's being shown in Cinerama. I'm sure I can find the same for 2001.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||June 21, 2022 12:56 AM|
That's why her FOLLIES casting was so perfect, r139.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||June 21, 2022 12:56 AM|
^ Norway, damn it.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||June 21, 2022 12:56 AM|
O.K., r145, but I was referring to the U.S.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||June 21, 2022 12:57 AM|
Noway was correct.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||June 21, 2022 12:58 AM|
Pushin' the movie...
|by Anonymous||reply 150||June 21, 2022 1:02 AM|
An ad for 2001 stating it's being shown in "WRAP-AROUND CINERAMA with 6 track STEREO SOUND."
|by Anonymous||reply 151||June 21, 2022 1:04 AM|
Jenna Russell and Brooks Ashmanskas in Follies in Tangiers! Who else is in this?
|by Anonymous||reply 152||June 21, 2022 1:07 AM|
Oops! Forgot the link:
|by Anonymous||reply 153||June 21, 2022 1:08 AM|
Those roadshow Cinerama 70mm prints had to be specially modified, which is why MGM claimed Cinerama. Otherwise, the picture looked distorted when projected on the deeply curved Cinerama screen.
And I'll leave the subject now, for which I am sure you are grateful.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||June 21, 2022 1:13 AM|
Oh I believe you, r151, but again I was referring to the U.S.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||June 21, 2022 1:13 AM|
Cinerama had nothing on TODD-A-O!
|by Anonymous||reply 156||June 21, 2022 1:25 AM|
Brooks is Carlotta, of course.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||June 21, 2022 1:29 AM|
When they switched to 70mm Cinerama in the late 60s, they called it "the new Cinerama" or "70mm Cinerama" or "one hole Cinerama." One hole was always good enough for me. But it was still just Todd-AO and not quite as good.
|by Anonymous||reply 158||June 21, 2022 1:39 AM|
70mm film actually has only 65mm of film image. The other 5mm was given to the six magnetic strips of the surround-sound soundtrack.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||June 21, 2022 1:47 AM|
All jokes aside, didn't Elizabeth Taylor make a huge fortune based just on the profits from Todd-A-O?
|by Anonymous||reply 160||June 21, 2022 1:53 AM|
And it's only really effective on a 70mm screen and who has those?
|by Anonymous||reply 161||June 21, 2022 1:55 AM|
This can’t be happening
|by Anonymous||reply 162||June 21, 2022 2:35 AM|
It can, r162...
|by Anonymous||reply 163||June 21, 2022 2:36 AM|
R155, do you really believe Song of Norway and 2001, among other films, were released in 70mm Cinerama internationally but not in the US? I proved my point and am just not interested in searching for more roadshow ads.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||June 21, 2022 2:38 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 165||June 21, 2022 2:41 AM|
Florence was fine In "Song of Norway" and the lead playing Edvard Grieg was cute. The second lead, the baritone though I recall was rather hard to take. The direction of the film wasn't good though the locales were gorgeous. I saw it in some local theater in New Rochelle, though neither the Petries, the Helpers or the J. Pierpont Finches were in the audience with me. The music was lovely (except for that baritone's voice).
|by Anonymous||reply 166||June 21, 2022 2:56 AM|
Anybody want to talk about Technirama? The Music Man was filmed in Super Technirama and that system had probably the least distortion and best picture quality around next to the original Cinerama.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||June 21, 2022 3:14 AM|
...fever dream of a Theatre Gossip thread...
|by Anonymous||reply 168||June 21, 2022 3:15 AM|
What's the Song of Norway plot?
|by Anonymous||reply 169||June 21, 2022 3:20 AM|
[quote]Brooks is Carlotta, of course.
He’s really more of a Hattie who wishes he was a Carlotta, no?
|by Anonymous||reply 170||June 21, 2022 3:23 AM|
Just a bunch of boring people standing around singing melodies cribbed from Grieg. Nice photography, though. Super Panavision 70.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||June 21, 2022 3:24 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 172||June 21, 2022 3:26 AM|
Which was your favorite LEWK from the TONYS?
|by Anonymous||reply 173||June 21, 2022 3:27 AM|
Grieg was no Borodin.
|by Anonymous||reply 174||June 21, 2022 3:31 AM|
Yeah, r171, but how did it play on stage without the scenery?
|by Anonymous||reply 175||June 21, 2022 3:32 AM|
I never miss a Rachmaninoff musical.
|by Anonymous||reply 176||June 21, 2022 3:34 AM|
Set on a fabulous cruise ship, "Song of Norway" follows the lives of three equally fabulous friends: pianist Greg, fellow musician Ricky, and lounge singer Louisa. Greg's love for his childhood sweetheart, Nina, and his homeland, is selfishly manipulated by the scheming Louisa, who is determined to keep him from Nina by constantly using him as her lounge pianist as the ship sails the world!
|by Anonymous||reply 177||June 21, 2022 3:35 AM|
I'm very fond of A Quiet Place, which was lifted from the third movement of Rach's Symphony No. 2. Or 3. Or 4. I forget.
|by Anonymous||reply 178||June 21, 2022 3:38 AM|
Does the cruise director have a substance abuse problem, r177?
|by Anonymous||reply 179||June 21, 2022 3:40 AM|
Where else on God's green earth can you find an in-depth discussion about the movie of SONG OF NORWAY except on DL? I want to have all of your babies!
"That show has a wonderful score" Oh, my sides! Except for the amateurish, ghastly scores of recent years, I have never heard more cacophony emanate from a Broadway stage than at THC.
"Nothing before 2000 can be revived today without EXTENSIVE revisions, according to the new regime out there.:" And you know where that brain-dead "regime" can put their revisions.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||June 21, 2022 4:22 AM|
THC, r180? Isn't that the active ingredient in marijuana?
|by Anonymous||reply 181||June 21, 2022 4:27 AM|
Rach 2nd Symphony, 3rd Mvmt, r178.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||June 21, 2022 4:31 AM|
And let's not forget Eric Carmen's NEVER GONNA FALL IN LOVE AGAIN, also a Pop/Rock-maninoff "hommage."
|by Anonymous||reply 183||June 21, 2022 4:35 AM|
[quote]One hole was always good enough for me.
|by Anonymous||reply 184||June 21, 2022 7:46 AM|
Cinerama was a three-camera, three-projector process.
It was big, but not pretty. It had large seams between the images.
Only a handful of films were made in this process, You can’t take a film shot with one camera (like 2001 or Song of Norway) and make it Cinerama.
But the process sucked, so they stopped the three cameras, and changed the meaning of the word. They started using the name “Cinerama” to refer to theaters with the large curved screens. Any film in a Cinerama theater was referred to as being in Cinerama.
So, yes, it was advertised as being in Cinerama, but it was not shot nor projected in Cinerama, just on a Cinerama screen.
|by Anonymous||reply 185||June 21, 2022 10:55 AM|
OMG a few queens taking advantage of glorious anonymity on a [italic] gossip [/italic] site dedicated to theater to gaysplain antique Gil projection processes.
|by Anonymous||reply 186||June 21, 2022 11:17 AM|
film not Gil damn your eyes
|by Anonymous||reply 187||June 21, 2022 11:17 AM|
Leave my eyes out of this you motherfucking bastard.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||June 21, 2022 11:39 AM|
The most exciting number for " Song of Norway." Very much like "76 Trombones," " Sit Down You're Rockin' the Boat," or " Hello,Dolly!"
|by Anonymous||reply 189||June 21, 2022 11:42 AM|
You want to damn your eyes, watch a real Cinerama film
|by Anonymous||reply 190||June 21, 2022 11:55 AM|
Always worth calling on Pauline Kael at times like these. On SONG: "The movie is of unbelievable badness; it brings back cliches you never knew you knew—they're practically from the unconscious of moviegoers. You can't get angry at something so stupefying; it seems to have been made by trolls."
|by Anonymous||reply 191||June 21, 2022 11:57 AM|
Pauline just didn't like movie musicals very much. Maybe FIDDLER, CABARET and that's it.
|by Anonymous||reply 192||June 21, 2022 12:49 PM|
Is it true the gala premiere was at The Hall of the Mountain King?
|by Anonymous||reply 193||June 21, 2022 12:52 PM|
[quote]Cinerama was a three-camera, three-projector process.
The three projectors were synced but you could see it was three separate films.
|by Anonymous||reply 194||June 21, 2022 1:06 PM|
The first non-three strip Cinerama presentation was "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World . All the rest were just 70MM Panavision widescreen single film projections.
|by Anonymous||reply 195||June 21, 2022 1:11 PM|
Pauline liked Funny Girl, at least where Barbra was concerned; also the Astaire/Rogers films. But her NIGHT MUSIC take down is classic.
|by Anonymous||reply 196||June 21, 2022 1:16 PM|
Didn't Pauline Kael also love PENNIES FROM HEAVEN? I seem to recall her claiming that she loved musicals and that one of the only things that she didn't like about movie reviewing was that it meant that she couldn't go to the opera more often -- but in point of fact I'd say that musical knowledge/taste was a major weak point of hers.
|by Anonymous||reply 197||June 21, 2022 1:22 PM|
Kael is fun to read--even now. Lively, cunty fun.
But a lot of her taste was in her ass, and she never let her ignorance of any subject prevent her from expounding on it for 10,000 words. She was a snob and a climber posing as a populist, and a hick posing as an urban intellectual.
|by Anonymous||reply 198||June 21, 2022 1:36 PM|
PS: as an insecure straight woman who'd been unhappily married to a gay man, Kael also posed as a hipster/sophisticate who privately resented gay men and camp culture even as she surrounded herself with both, but that's another thread, I guess.
I find it ironic that she remains a cultural touchstone for so many gay men, even now.
|by Anonymous||reply 199||June 21, 2022 1:42 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 200||June 21, 2022 1:47 PM|
Many gay men resent gay men, so...
|by Anonymous||reply 201||June 21, 2022 1:59 PM|
IS THIS A FUCKING THEATER GOSSIP THREAD OR A MOVIE MUSICAL THREAD???!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 202||June 21, 2022 2:15 PM|
Fish in a barrel, r196.
|by Anonymous||reply 203||June 21, 2022 2:19 PM|
Well, both are amplified/loud as fuck.
|by Anonymous||reply 204||June 21, 2022 2:19 PM|
What Song of Norway song would be that show's Shipoopi?
|by Anonymous||reply 205||June 21, 2022 2:28 PM|
I actually bought Song Of Norway on bluray. I thought it might be a fun hate watch. I can’t get through the first 10 minutes.
|by Anonymous||reply 206||June 21, 2022 2:41 PM|
And of course (bringing it back on topic) the Original Broadway show starred flopperetta queen Irra Petina!
|by Anonymous||reply 207||June 21, 2022 2:42 PM|
Doesn't anyone on Broadway fuck anymore?
|by Anonymous||reply 208||June 21, 2022 2:44 PM|
Why wasn’t there a film of Anya? With Debbie Reynolds?
|by Anonymous||reply 209||June 21, 2022 2:45 PM|
All the musicals mentioned started onstage. So leave us alone.
|by Anonymous||reply 210||June 21, 2022 2:50 PM|
With all of these jukebox musicals on Broadway, I want to see one about The Cowsills (or at least The Partridge Family).
|by Anonymous||reply 211||June 21, 2022 3:15 PM|
That doesn’t excuse the cinerama tangent r210
Meanwhile back at the ranch…. Which producers this difficult season are the most inept? So many to choose from. Pause the fucking Song of Norway VHS, enjoy the anonymity and spill the tea.
|by Anonymous||reply 212||June 21, 2022 3:16 PM|
Any word on the movie (cinerama?) of FOLLIES?
|by Anonymous||reply 213||June 21, 2022 3:18 PM|
Song of Norway was considered a Cinerama film whether you're a 3 panel purist or not,as posted in what was the new Cinerama of the 60s. It was presented as such at the Cinerama theater on Broadway in NY. As a boy from the suburbs I would sneak into the city because my parents would have never allowed me to be hanging around Times Square by myself. I remember the movie playing there but did not go because Henderson annoyed me and now I regret it because it had a splendid 80ft wide curved screen and I'm sure it looked great. Strangely enough I got the bluray out of morbid curiosity but haven't watched it yet.
A genuine 3 panel Cinerama film which was thought to be lost for good(even Barbara Eden thought it was lost for good. The original negative was thought to have too much water damage to be salvageable) in its original 3 panel format has been restored and though not a great film it must be purchased. George Pal's The Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm. It looks spectacular and computer technology has removed the lines for the most part. Watch it in Smilebox which is an attempt to give you the sense of Cinerama. It comes in both regular and Smilebox in the same box. It's worth it just for The Dancing Princess with an incandescent Yvette Mimieux and Russ Tamblyn. And as always a Beuluh Bondi Cinerama movie is not to be missed.
|by Anonymous||reply 214||June 21, 2022 3:23 PM|
I don't know if The Music Man was filmed in Super Technirama or not but it was never presented as such at least not when it opened in NY. Maybe LA? It was simple Technirama another widescreen process. I did see however a gorgeous print in stereo at the Walter Reade. I went to the two showings they had and it was eye-popping and exciting. I understand the bluray is not great.
|by Anonymous||reply 215||June 21, 2022 3:30 PM|
Well, it may not be the "Partridge Family", but "Maggie Flynn" on Broadway had Shirley Jones, Jack Cassidy and a pre-"The Wiz" Stephanie Mills as one of the orphans. I've never heard the full score but there are supposed to be a few good numbers in it.
|by Anonymous||reply 216||June 21, 2022 3:30 PM|
MAGGIE FLYNN is a guilty pleasure. Saw it pre-Broadway in Detroit. Big, lumbering top-heavy show, directed by the aforementioned Morton DaCosta. Jack Cassidy on the cast album is sublime. And the "What About a Ball?" number is camp heaven.
|by Anonymous||reply 217||June 21, 2022 3:40 PM|
Sorry. "How About a Ball?"
|by Anonymous||reply 218||June 21, 2022 3:41 PM|
How about one, r218?
|by Anonymous||reply 219||June 21, 2022 3:44 PM|
Not to mention, "Mr. Clown," which gets my vote as the loudest production number I've ever heard.
|by Anonymous||reply 220||June 21, 2022 3:56 PM|
THIS DAY IN BROADWAY HISTORY: In 1993, a revival of "Camelot" opened at the Gershwin Theatre.
|by Anonymous||reply 221||June 21, 2022 4:19 PM|
Broadway To Go “Mask Optional” In July:
|by Anonymous||reply 222||June 21, 2022 4:21 PM|
DLers, do you think lack of mask enforcement will increase or decrease Broadway audience attendance?
Personally, I'll be going more often.
|by Anonymous||reply 223||June 21, 2022 4:26 PM|
[quote]I don't know if The Music Man was filmed in Super Technirama or not but it was never presented as such at least not when it opened in NY. Maybe LA? It was simple Technirama another widescreen process. I did see however a gorgeous print in stereo at the Walter Reade. I went to the two showings they had and it was eye-popping and exciting. I understand the bluray is not great.
I, too, was at one of the Walter Reade screenings. Just great. The Blu-Ray version of THE MUSIC MAN looks and sounds great to me.
|by Anonymous||reply 224||June 21, 2022 4:34 PM|
I know more people now getting it than when it was at it's worse... People are getting re infected within a few months and all of my friends have had it much worse the 2nd time
|by Anonymous||reply 225||June 21, 2022 4:48 PM|
[quote]Which producers this difficult season are the most inept?
I don't want to name names, but it rhymes with Whoredon Moth.
|by Anonymous||reply 226||June 21, 2022 4:48 PM|
Maybe Whoredon Moth should spend less time on couture…
|by Anonymous||reply 227||June 21, 2022 5:18 PM|
Tweet by Vulture journalist Mark Harris (and Tony Kushner’s husband):
This is about appeasing the producers of long-running shows that rely on tourism. It replaces a friendly version of "Our house, our rules" with the attitude that it's fine to come to NYC, use it as you please, and not consider those who live/work here. Again: Greedy and heedless.
|by Anonymous||reply 228||June 21, 2022 5:33 PM|
Oh please. All the road houses and London theatres have been maskless for months.
|by Anonymous||reply 229||June 21, 2022 5:36 PM|
Mark Harris lost credibility with me with the Mike Nichols bio. I know men Nichols slept with. He was protecting his friend Diane Sawyer.
|by Anonymous||reply 230||June 21, 2022 5:36 PM|
[quote]Pauline just didn't like movie musicals very much. Maybe FIDDLER, CABARET and that's it.
I always enjoyed reading her reviews, but, especially when it came to musicals, she was a big ol' sourpuss. Her infamous review of "The Sound of Music" got her fired from McCall's magazine.
|by Anonymous||reply 231||June 21, 2022 5:48 PM|
I don't know why I remember this, because I was very young when it was first released, but I recall that Disney's animated "Sleeping Beauty" was touted as having been filmed in Super Technirama 70.
|by Anonymous||reply 232||June 21, 2022 5:54 PM|
[quote] DLers, do you think lack of mask enforcement will increase or decrease Broadway audience attendance?
My guess is people will wait and see. Older people will likely stop going until they see if these become major transmission sites.
|by Anonymous||reply 233||June 21, 2022 6:01 PM|
[quote] Oh please. All the road houses and London theatres have been maskless for months.
Rates are trending upwards in London.
Younger, healthy people may not care, but Omicron kills older vaccinated people.
|by Anonymous||reply 234||June 21, 2022 6:03 PM|
Thing with the West End is a large proportion of the audience are older more conservative people from outer London/the Home Counties, so them going maskless is more a political thing than anything based on health/science. Also why Tories Mackintosh and Lloyd Webber never properly enforced mask wearing in their theatres
|by Anonymous||reply 235||June 21, 2022 6:07 PM|
[quote] Also why Tories Mackintosh and Lloyd Webber never properly enforced mask wearing in their theatres
And Cinderella closed because not enough people in the audience
|by Anonymous||reply 236||June 21, 2022 6:09 PM|
Ethan Morrden, talking about West Side Story, said that Richard Beymer looked like something you'd find in a pie.
|by Anonymous||reply 237||June 21, 2022 6:19 PM|
People who love Pauline Kale have learned to admire her writing style while ignoring her strange and dated opinions..
|by Anonymous||reply 238||June 21, 2022 6:20 PM|
[quote]Richard Beymer looked like something you'd find in a pie.
What does that even mean?
|by Anonymous||reply 239||June 21, 2022 6:20 PM|
Fuck me...Pauline KAEL.
|by Anonymous||reply 240||June 21, 2022 6:21 PM|
Fuck the hall monitor
Stop trying to control what people talk about
|by Anonymous||reply 241||June 21, 2022 6:29 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 242||June 21, 2022 6:36 PM|
Mark Harris is not a random “journalist.” He has been an insane COVID hysteric from day one. I (and many others) have had to unfollow him.
|by Anonymous||reply 243||June 21, 2022 6:37 PM|
Is Harris the top?
|by Anonymous||reply 244||June 21, 2022 6:45 PM|
[quote]Ethan Morrden, talking about West Side Story, said that Richard Beymer looked like something you'd find in a pie.
I believe the line was something more like, "something you'd scrape out of a pie," which I found really funny even though it doesn't make much sense. And P.S. it's Mordden.
|by Anonymous||reply 245||June 21, 2022 6:47 PM|
I agree, the Nichols bio was sort of a disappointment. It was clear the personal relationship got in the way. It also had a serious amount of hero worship, and so many strange omissions -- his addiction, his bi-sexuality.
|by Anonymous||reply 246||June 21, 2022 6:58 PM|
The only thing Michael was addicted to was ME.
|by Anonymous||reply 247||June 21, 2022 7:01 PM|
Yes, Pauline Kael (largely) liked PENNIES FROM HEAVEN ("the most emotional movie musical I've ever seen"). Surely someone could make it work on stage (Tommy Tune could have, back in his day), but the ending is just so, so bleak (which is ultimately the point of having the characters lip-sync to cheery songs as their lives go grim) that I'm afraid it would turn people off. But, man, the musical numbers are fantastic. I've lost count of how many times I've watched It's The Girl or Love Is Good For Anything That Ails You.
|by Anonymous||reply 248||June 21, 2022 7:02 PM|
Ask Delta airlines how that "mask optional' policy is working out.
(hint: thousands of cancelled flights, massive shortage in pilots and crew)
|by Anonymous||reply 249||June 21, 2022 7:04 PM|
Since R248 mentions...
|by Anonymous||reply 250||June 21, 2022 7:05 PM|
Could they flip and do the ending at the beginning?
|by Anonymous||reply 251||June 21, 2022 7:05 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 252||June 21, 2022 7:06 PM|
Pennies from Heaven has great numbers (I especially like Christopher Walken’s soft shoe), but the story is so bleak and the main character is such an asshole.
|by Anonymous||reply 253||June 21, 2022 7:07 PM|
My personal fave, since R253 mentioned it.
Walken KILLS me in this.
|by Anonymous||reply 254||June 21, 2022 7:08 PM|
[quote]Richard Beymer looked like something you'd find in a pie.
[quote]What does that even mean?
If he said it recently, I would guess that it means the onset of dementia.
Just one of those lines that sound funny the first time you hear them, but that you later realize are actually meaningless.
|by Anonymous||reply 255||June 21, 2022 7:17 PM|
It means Beymer was either fruity or meaty.
|by Anonymous||reply 256||June 21, 2022 7:18 PM|
Skylar Astin, who just took dates off of Little Shop to attend a wedding, has now tested positive for COVID and is out until the 29th.
|by Anonymous||reply 257||June 21, 2022 7:18 PM|
You were a *fantastic* Rose, Tyne! So sorry they made you record the cast album when you had a cold.
|by Anonymous||reply 258||June 21, 2022 7:37 PM|
I'm happy I have no tickets booked for anything on Broadway past this week. I'm going to sit back and watch Charlotte St. Martin burn the houses down. Actors Equity needed to be involved in this ridiculously stupid decision.
|by Anonymous||reply 259||June 21, 2022 7:47 PM|
On the plus side, Shakespeare in the Park starts tonight, so that'll be a safer option.
|by Anonymous||reply 260||June 21, 2022 7:49 PM|
When most of what's on Bway is jukebox crap, I don't have to deal with the maskless until I see what happens. Everyone is predicting a COVID wave in the fall. Interesting to see what Bway decides then,
|by Anonymous||reply 261||June 21, 2022 7:49 PM|
You can all stay home and watch THIS
|by Anonymous||reply 262||June 21, 2022 7:53 PM|
Beth Leavel "had work done" (as my grandma used to say)
|by Anonymous||reply 263||June 21, 2022 7:55 PM|
Here's a name I haven't heard in a while, likely since the gossip threads of old. Did a Google search for them and saw the references to him getting plowed by Cromer's beer can cock, and of the play about Cheyenne... Oh, the gossip threads were so much more interesting and fun back then.
|by Anonymous||reply 264||June 21, 2022 8:17 PM|
gossip about beer can cock is what I come to datalounge for! Dime mas
|by Anonymous||reply 265||June 21, 2022 8:23 PM|
[quote]Ask Delta airlines how that "mask optional' policy is working out.(hint: thousands of cancelled flights, massive shortage in pilots and crew)
I fail to see how loosening the mask mandates will have any affect on the performers in a show. A performer in a show would have a similar risk if they simply ate at a restaurant.
On the plus side, maybe there'll be no more shows where the performers come into the audience.
|by Anonymous||reply 266||June 21, 2022 8:26 PM|
Paul wasn't born with that nose, was he?
|by Anonymous||reply 267||June 21, 2022 8:29 PM|
r465, do a Google search for datalounge, Cromer and "beer can cock." (Because the search function on the site sucks.) It's a DL legend.
|by Anonymous||reply 268||June 21, 2022 8:30 PM|
[quote]DLers, do you think lack of mask enforcement will increase or decrease Broadway audience attendance?
It will certainly increase my attendance.
|by Anonymous||reply 269||June 21, 2022 8:32 PM|
Thank you for the Christopher Walken number from "Pennies from Heaven". His early career in NYC on stage placed him in one of my all-time favorite musicals, "High Spirits." A dynamite score. When I was very young, I watched the TV show "The Equalizer." Mom pointed out that the actor who played McCall on the show was also the lead male in the musical.
An early inkling that actors could do many things... like Walken... for many, there has to have been that, "who knew he could dance?" when PFH was released.
Here's the overture to High Spirits - oh, I love it so...
|by Anonymous||reply 270||June 21, 2022 8:41 PM|
The orchestrations are sooo '60s.
|by Anonymous||reply 271||June 21, 2022 8:50 PM|
is this the one?
Can we start another Broadway Sex Thread?
|by Anonymous||reply 272||June 21, 2022 8:52 PM|
Sadly there may not be much of a point. The last time someone started a Broadway Sex Thread, around 2020, it died quickly.
|by Anonymous||reply 273||June 21, 2022 8:55 PM|
What was the b-side to Downtown?
|by Anonymous||reply 274||June 21, 2022 9:09 PM|
Did Walken ever play the lead in a Broadway musical? I don't think so. He was in the chorus of High Spirits and also Baker Street (with Tommy Tune and Laurence, known then as Horace, Guittard).
|by Anonymous||reply 275||June 21, 2022 9:09 PM|
You'd Better Love Me, r274...
|by Anonymous||reply 276||June 21, 2022 9:11 PM|
It's a gas it's a gas it's a gas........
|by Anonymous||reply 277||June 21, 2022 9:17 PM|
It's a gas, it's a gas, it's a gas!
|by Anonymous||reply 278||June 21, 2022 9:22 PM|
Tammy didn't need commas, r278!
|by Anonymous||reply 279||June 21, 2022 9:23 PM|
R275, And, Martin Gabel, husband of DL icon Arlene Francis.
|by Anonymous||reply 280||June 21, 2022 9:26 PM|
Walken was a horrible Captain Hook in that NBC Peter Pan Live.
|by Anonymous||reply 281||June 21, 2022 9:27 PM|
R230, He didn't even include Mike's relationship with Richard Avedon?
|by Anonymous||reply 282||June 21, 2022 9:29 PM|
R281, The SOB knows what really happened that night in 1981.
|by Anonymous||reply 283||June 21, 2022 9:31 PM|
Mark Harris makes statement in a footnote in his Nichols bio that, though he tried to find evidence of Mike NIchols' dabbling (my word) in bisexuality and homosexuality, he found nothing that could be confirmed with named sources.
|by Anonymous||reply 284||June 21, 2022 9:32 PM|
Just read on Playbill.com that the Hartford tryout of the new Matthew Lombardo play with Jeremy Jordan and Harriet Harris was canceled. It was scheduled next month for the Bushnell which IIRC is a HUGE auditorium, totally wrong for a farcical comedy.
I wouldn't trust Lombardo (knowing him, he's probably the lead producer)......
|by Anonymous||reply 285||June 21, 2022 9:35 PM|
R230, Did Mike keep his wig on during sex?
|by Anonymous||reply 286||June 21, 2022 9:38 PM|
[quote]he found nothing that could be confirmed with named sources
So...he had sources but they refused to be named?
|by Anonymous||reply 287||June 21, 2022 9:44 PM|
Basically,,,, yes, r287.
|by Anonymous||reply 288||June 21, 2022 9:47 PM|
Just for the record I never fucked Mike Nichols.
|by Anonymous||reply 289||June 21, 2022 9:57 PM|
[quote] Did Walken ever play the lead in a Broadway musical? I don't think so.
He was the lead in "The Dead," off-Broadway and then on Broadway, in 2000.
|by Anonymous||reply 290||June 21, 2022 10:07 PM|
[quote]the Hartford tryout of the new Matthew Lombardo play with Jeremy Jordan and Harriet Harris was canceled.
I want to know who keeps backing this clown, r285. HIGH was, hands down, the worst thing I have seen on Broadway.
|by Anonymous||reply 291||June 21, 2022 10:11 PM|
Walken was also in BEST FOOT FORWARD with Liza!
|by Anonymous||reply 292||June 21, 2022 10:28 PM|
[quote]Walken was a horrible Captain Hook in that NBC Peter Pan Live.
I'm not sure his performance ever rose to the level of "horrible." He wandered around in a daze. I was afraid he was having a stroke on live television. When I read about his casting and the casting of Alison Williams, I thought, "This is going to be dreadful." And so it was. The producers later blamed the production's failure on the material. "I'm afraid 'Peter Pan' has worn out its welcome," one of them said. Sure. Must be the same reason the current "Funny Girl" revival laid such an egg.
|by Anonymous||reply 293||June 21, 2022 10:29 PM|
I have never dated Mike...Nichols(?), but word comes back from those who have that he's a really great guy.
|by Anonymous||reply 294||June 21, 2022 10:35 PM|
[quote]My guess is people will wait and see. Older people will likely stop going until they see if these become major transmission sites.
One of the local stations just interviewed a bunch of people at the TKTS booth in Times Square and every single one of them said they intend to keep wearing the mask, so just based on that, I think it will take people a while to get comfortable without one.
|by Anonymous||reply 295||June 21, 2022 10:38 PM|
Company is closing at the end of July.
|by Anonymous||reply 296||June 21, 2022 10:47 PM|
[quote]Song of Norway was considered a Cinerama film whether you're a 3 panel purist or not,as posted in what was the new Cinerama of the 60s. It was presented as such at the Cinerama theater on Broadway in NY
Nope, "Song of Norway" was never considered a Cinerama film. Here are the opening day ads in NY. It played a Roadshow Engagement and clearly states 70MM Wide Screen Stereo Sound and not Cinerama, that was just the name of the theatre which was formally, The Strand and Warner Theater thru the years.
|by Anonymous||reply 297||June 21, 2022 10:47 PM|
It seems like a national tour of COMPANY could really do well cast with 90s and 00s TV has-beens. Most of the roles don't even require great singers.
|by Anonymous||reply 298||June 21, 2022 10:55 PM|
Does Jennifer Holiday have the Covid? She’s been out of Chicago since the weekend and she just joined the cast less than 2 weeks ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 299||June 21, 2022 11:10 PM|
I wonder if Patti had anything to do with Company closing early with the mask mandates being dropped
|by Anonymous||reply 300||June 21, 2022 11:13 PM|
Here is the official announcement:
|by Anonymous||reply 301||June 21, 2022 11:19 PM|
Come From Away and Six cancelled tonight.
|by Anonymous||reply 302||June 21, 2022 11:21 PM|
So, yeah, let's make those masks optional ... Dumbasses!
|by Anonymous||reply 303||June 21, 2022 11:23 PM|
wouldn't they close on 7/1 instead of at the end of the month though?
|by Anonymous||reply 304||June 21, 2022 11:36 PM|
How will Matt Doyle parlay his Tony win?
|by Anonymous||reply 305||June 21, 2022 11:44 PM|
R301, Will it close in the red?
|by Anonymous||reply 306||June 21, 2022 11:46 PM|
He’ll be maitr’d instead of waiter
|by Anonymous||reply 307||June 21, 2022 11:46 PM|
I’m trying to track the logic here. Everyone is getting COVID and therefore we need to wear masks, which are doing nothing to prevent everyone from getting COVID.
|by Anonymous||reply 308||June 22, 2022 12:11 AM|
or covid is rising because no one is wearing masks anymore
|by Anonymous||reply 309||June 22, 2022 12:17 AM|
It wasn't Charlotte's decision R259. She is just the mouthpiece. Blame the greedy producers and The Shuberts, Nederlanders and Jujamcyns. They are so worried about "getting asses in the seats" they risk people's lives to see their shitty shows and charge obscene prices.
|by Anonymous||reply 310||June 22, 2022 12:19 AM|
Ethan Mordden's line about Richard Beymer looking like "something scraped out of a pie" in the West Side Story movie actually does make sense. It emphasizes the actor's sweetness in a role that really should be played by a young roughneck.
In West Side Story's stage script, we learn that Tony is the gang's best fighter. As it happens, he is always cast with cute boy-next-door types. They're soft and pretty, so we can believe the romantic nature of Something's Coming and Maria. However, the role really needs a young man who is attractive and touching and can sing difficult music--but is also an edgy personality with street cred.
That's almost impossible to find. It's kind of unfair for Mordden to criticize Beymer for being the kind of Tony that West Side Story always uses, on stage especially.
I think he just gets in a bad mood when talking about the film because he doesn't like actors dubbed in movie musicals, and in that old West Side Story from the 1960s everyone is dubbed.
|by Anonymous||reply 311||June 22, 2022 12:22 AM|
Tony is the most difficult role written for a musical; you almost have to have a hardass play the part, rather than the usual pretty boy. I saw Paul Nolan do it at Stratford and he came close to portraying the duality of the character. Plus, he flashed his bare ass, which was a plus.
|by Anonymous||reply 312||June 22, 2022 12:38 AM|
Do the West End shows close as frequently because of Covid
|by Anonymous||reply 313||June 22, 2022 12:45 AM|
[quote]Do the West End shows close as frequently because of Covid
Does anyone still use a question mark?
[quote]I’m trying to track the logic here. Everyone is getting COVID and therefore we need to wear masks, which are doing nothing to prevent everyone from getting COVID.
Are you saying that masks cause Covid? Don't bother answering.
Here's a terrible capture of Chicago.
|by Anonymous||reply 314||June 22, 2022 12:57 AM|
[quote] Could "Fanny" be revived today? —With Beanie Feldstein?
Beanie’s a bit young still, but otherwise she’s on the money casting for Panisse, the Walter Slezak part!
|by Anonymous||reply 315||June 22, 2022 1:02 AM|
For diehard Walken fans.
This is from 2010. It's almost enough to make you forgive (if not forget) PETER PAN.
|by Anonymous||reply 316||June 22, 2022 1:08 AM|
[quote] Could "Fanny" be revived today? —With Beanie Feldstein?
She could play the "curly girly, slinky, inky" octopus the Admiral is in love with.
|by Anonymous||reply 317||June 22, 2022 1:15 AM|
So we’re not going to talk about Steve Martin killing the tap game in that PFH clip? I mean, wtf. He’s great.
|by Anonymous||reply 318||June 22, 2022 1:21 AM|
Paul Nolan was indeed a brilliant Tony in that Stratford West Side Story. Incredibly talented performer, he really should be a much bigger star on Broadway, he can do it all and he's gorgeous
|by Anonymous||reply 319||June 22, 2022 1:30 AM|
A few more years and Beanie could do a revival of Bells Are Ringing. She’d be great in the Jean Stapleton role.
|by Anonymous||reply 320||June 22, 2022 1:30 AM|
COVID cases are not actually rising but don’t let me interfere with your neurosis and fear
|by Anonymous||reply 321||June 22, 2022 1:32 AM|
COVID infections are rising; COVID hospitalizations and deaths are not.
|by Anonymous||reply 322||June 22, 2022 1:34 AM|
[quote]Everyone is getting COVID and therefore we need to wear masks, which are doing nothing to prevent everyone from getting COVID.
Jesus H. Christ what a fucking moron.
|by Anonymous||reply 323||June 22, 2022 1:35 AM|
Nope - according to your precious NYT, cases are not rising either - except in your imagination!
|by Anonymous||reply 324||June 22, 2022 1:36 AM|
Sondheim never runs.
|by Anonymous||reply 325||June 22, 2022 1:37 AM|
I hope that's true where you live but r322 is more accurate where I am... I know more people now getting it more than before. I know a few people with repeat infections as I guess the most recent variants do NOT give an immunity
|by Anonymous||reply 326||June 22, 2022 1:38 AM|
They should have had Paul Nolan reverse his name. Paul Nolan is not the name of a star.
|by Anonymous||reply 327||June 22, 2022 1:39 AM|
Sondheim was a hack!
In Broadway Baby, Hattie sings: “At my tiny flat…”
Americans never call their apartments “flats.”
|by Anonymous||reply 328||June 22, 2022 1:39 AM|
Covid rates in NYC are and remain high; between 9-12%.
|by Anonymous||reply 329||June 22, 2022 1:50 AM|
There were "cold water flats", r328.
|by Anonymous||reply 330||June 22, 2022 1:53 AM|
CDC: As of June 8, 2022, the current 7-day moving average of daily new cases (109,032) increased 8.0% compared with the previous 7-day moving average (100,916).
|by Anonymous||reply 331||June 22, 2022 1:54 AM|
R331, I can’t imagine why you wouldn’t provide current data. Maybe because today’s 7 day average is 94,437, down 12 percent.
|by Anonymous||reply 332||June 22, 2022 2:02 AM|
Have West End theaters been canceling shows because of Covid in the last few months like they do on Broadway?
I know the UK had some massive waves of Covid infections recently (at least where my co-workers are in London and Liverpool). But I hadn't heard that their theaters close.
|by Anonymous||reply 333||June 22, 2022 2:04 AM|
Everyone is testing at home so the public numbers mean nothing. Probably rates are [italic] way [/italic] higher and this the % of serious illness way lower
|by Anonymous||reply 334||June 22, 2022 2:06 AM|
[quote]COVID cases are not actually rising but don’t let me interfere with your neurosis and fearharaacter
Characterizing legitimate concerns about Covid as "neurosis" tells me how much your opinion is worth.
|by Anonymous||reply 335||June 22, 2022 2:06 AM|
Ryan Murphy should do a Netflix series about the true story of beanie feldstein’s rise and fall and scandal with beanie feldstein AS beanie feldstein.
|by Anonymous||reply 336||June 22, 2022 2:08 AM|
[quote][R331], I can’t imagine why you wouldn’t provide current data. Maybe because today’s 7 day average is 94,437, down 12 percent.
...and your links. r332?
|by Anonymous||reply 337||June 22, 2022 2:14 AM|
Are you serious, r337? This is not obscure information
|by Anonymous||reply 338||June 22, 2022 2:31 AM|
I don’t understand…Do people think that unmasked audience members can infect cast members?
|by Anonymous||reply 339||June 22, 2022 2:53 AM|
[Quote] COVID infections are rising; COVID hospitalizations and deaths are not.
Death is not the only consequence of Covid. One in five will end up with weird long Covid symptoms.
Just wear a mask indoors until this wave is over. It’s not that big a deal
|by Anonymous||reply 340||June 22, 2022 3:13 AM|
I plan to lick Patti
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|by Anonymous||reply 341||June 22, 2022 3:13 AM|
[Quote] Do people think that unmasked audience members can infect cast members?
No, performers are likely too far away. It’s a perfect set up to infect other audience members however
|by Anonymous||reply 342||June 22, 2022 3:14 AM|
[Quote] I plan to lick Patti
|by Anonymous||reply 343||June 22, 2022 3:14 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 344||June 22, 2022 3:22 AM|
This thread needs a little Ethel in its tank.
|by Anonymous||reply 345||June 22, 2022 3:28 AM|
[quote]Are you serious, [R337]? This is not obscure information.
Yes, I'm serious, r332 / r328. You asked for data but provided none til asked.
|by Anonymous||reply 346||June 22, 2022 3:42 AM|
Yes, I'm serious, [R332] / [R338]. You asked for data but provided none til asked.
|by Anonymous||reply 347||June 22, 2022 3:44 AM|
‘MJ’, ‘A Strange Loop’ & ‘Six’ Among Big Post-Tony Box Office Winners:
|by Anonymous||reply 348||June 22, 2022 3:48 AM|
[quote]In West Side Story's stage script, we learn that Tony is the gang's best fighter. As it happens, he is always cast with cute boy-next-door types. They're soft and pretty, so we can believe the romantic nature of Something's Coming and Maria. However, the role really needs a young man who is attractive and touching and can sing difficult music--but is also an edgy personality with street cred.
Jeremy Jordan fits your description perfectly, and based on this and other clips, he was perfect in the role.
|by Anonymous||reply 349||June 22, 2022 4:11 AM|
The only street Jeremy Jordan has any kind of cred on, would be Christopher Street.
|by Anonymous||reply 350||June 22, 2022 4:55 AM|
Jeremy Jordan's acting in that clip is terrible. He's a ham.
|by Anonymous||reply 351||June 22, 2022 5:23 AM|
[quote]Jeremy Jordan's acting in that clip is terrible. He's a ham.
Not fair, he's playing to 17,000 outdoors at the Hollywood Bowl. Everything has to be exaggerated.
|by Anonymous||reply 352||June 22, 2022 5:39 AM|
Look up Ross Lynch in ACL at the Hollywood Bowl. No outsized performance but he stands out from the crowd, which includes the American In Paris florist.
|by Anonymous||reply 353||June 22, 2022 5:49 AM|
Covid statistics and Song of Norway. This is truly the best Theatre Gossip thread EVER!
|by Anonymous||reply 354||June 22, 2022 10:18 AM|
r353 He's standing out for sure, but not in a good way
|by Anonymous||reply 355||June 22, 2022 10:40 AM|
Ross is hardly the problem in that clip. Let's start with the choreography....
|by Anonymous||reply 356||June 22, 2022 11:23 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 357||June 22, 2022 11:48 AM|
Gosh, thanks, R357. We would have never seen that clip otherwise.
|by Anonymous||reply 358||June 22, 2022 11:55 AM|
No Tony bump for Company despite two performance Tony wins and his actual death. Sondheim just doesn’t sell outside the cognoscenti. Sondheim is going to be relegated to opera houses and rep companies. No Broadway producer will touch him in the next couple of years.
|by Anonymous||reply 359||June 22, 2022 12:02 PM|
His actual death occurred many months earlier. Why would there suddenly be a death-related bump in June? Oh and producers are already 'touching' upcoming Broadway productions of Sondheim shows for next season. Thanks for the great insights though.
|by Anonymous||reply 360||June 22, 2022 12:21 PM|
I'd like to know your level of expertise, r359. You sound like a bit of an asshole, which isn't necessarily inconsistent with expert knowledge, but let's hear it anyway.
|by Anonymous||reply 361||June 22, 2022 12:24 PM|
what the hell is "mask optional," Broadway? They're not going to bar entry or throw you out if you're wearing one? Broadway is also "funny nose and glasses optional," as far as that doublespeak goes.
Just say what it is-- Zero mask requirement.
|by Anonymous||reply 362||June 22, 2022 12:37 PM|
[quote] Sondheim is going to be relegated to opera houses and rep companies. No Broadway producer will touch him in the next couple of years.
Come see our revivals of Into the Woods, Sweeney Todd and Merrily We Roll Along in 2022-2023!
|by Anonymous||reply 363||June 22, 2022 12:45 PM|
Lol, Sweeney Todd and Merrily won’t survive their limited runs. Into the Woods is an eight week one and done without the original cast and will barely sell.
|by Anonymous||reply 364||June 22, 2022 12:52 PM|
[quote] Gosh, thanks, [R357]. We would have never seen that clip otherwise.
Some people have lives and don't read or post on DL 24/7 like you do, apparently. I hope your remark made you feel better about yourself, because, after all, that's why you're here.
|by Anonymous||reply 365||June 22, 2022 12:54 PM|
Sondheim's shows may never have long runs on Broadway but they'll always be produced, at least in everyone's lifetime reading this post.
|by Anonymous||reply 366||June 22, 2022 12:55 PM|
You can dream R366.
|by Anonymous||reply 367||June 22, 2022 1:00 PM|
I was sorry to read about the COMPANY revival closing. (Sorry mostly for the cast.) How much of their investment do you suppose the producers will have lost, between the shutdown, reopening, and shortened run?
But just wait 3-4 years. Someone will get the genius idea that Bway is ripe for another revival.... of COMPANY.
|by Anonymous||reply 368||June 22, 2022 1:13 PM|
Didn’t Company announce a tour?
|by Anonymous||reply 369||June 22, 2022 1:18 PM|
Within 10 years, the only Sondheim shows that will be done with regularity are Sweeney and Into the Woods.
He will be remembered for WSS and Gypsy
|by Anonymous||reply 370||June 22, 2022 1:20 PM|
per Broadway News, "a North American tour of the musical is being planned for the 2023-2024 season."
Entirely possible, but I would not hold my breath.
|by Anonymous||reply 371||June 22, 2022 1:21 PM|
Joyce deWitt IS tour Joanne!
|by Anonymous||reply 372||June 22, 2022 1:23 PM|
[quote]The Tony Award-winning production will have played 268 regular performances and 32 preview performances.
Wow. Is that all?
|by Anonymous||reply 373||June 22, 2022 1:24 PM|
I never touched another man.
|by Anonymous||reply 374||June 22, 2022 1:28 PM|
Patti Murin *is* Bobbie
Andrew Keegan Bolger *is* Theo
Vicki Lewis *is* Sarah
Charlie Williams *is* Andy
Andy Mietnus *is* Jamie
and special billing
Suzanne Somers IS Joanne
|by Anonymous||reply 375||June 22, 2022 1:30 PM|
In happier Bway box office news....
SUCK IT, TONY AWARDS!
|by Anonymous||reply 376||June 22, 2022 1:31 PM|
Too bad Company never got around to stunt casting. Imagine Mario Lopez singing Not Getting Married today shirtless with Nick Adams as Paul. In a hoodie.
|by Anonymous||reply 377||June 22, 2022 1:33 PM|
[quote]Imagine Mario Lopez singing Not Getting Married today shirtless with Nick Adams as Paul. In a hoodie.
No. No, I will not imagine that.
|by Anonymous||reply 378||June 22, 2022 1:35 PM|
To be honest, Company is not a show people want to see in hard financial times. It’s a downer musical.
Broadway needs a big splashy musical.
Shania Twain in The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas
|by Anonymous||reply 379||June 22, 2022 1:40 PM|
[quote] He will be remembered for WSS and Gypsy
Neither of which he composed.
|by Anonymous||reply 380||June 22, 2022 1:43 PM|
What will happen to long haired muscle stud Bobby Conte Thornton now?
|by Anonymous||reply 381||June 22, 2022 1:47 PM|
Well, there's a waiter and retail clerk shortage in NYC, R381.
|by Anonymous||reply 382||June 22, 2022 1:50 PM|
The first thing Bobby had better do is cut off all that ridiculous hair.
|by Anonymous||reply 383||June 22, 2022 2:07 PM|
Thank you Nostradamus at r370! Can you tell us who will be President in 2025?
|by Anonymous||reply 384||June 22, 2022 2:24 PM|
[quote] Neither of which he composed.
Yes thanks we didn't know
|by Anonymous||reply 385||June 22, 2022 2:24 PM|
we don't know the Company backstory re closing. Maybe Patti was done and they know she's as much of a draw as they have. Remember they've been at this thing for over 2 years.
|by Anonymous||reply 386||June 22, 2022 2:26 PM|
R383, And have that ridiculous chest tattoo removed.
|by Anonymous||reply 387||June 22, 2022 2:27 PM|
Yeah where is Michael Reidel when u need him. You KNOW there is more to the Company story than the official statement.
You KNOW Patti is involved in some capacity.
I still think it’s weird she didn’t do press after winning the Tony and didn’t even stay during the ceremony as a courtesy to see her costar Matt Doyle win and the show itself win best revival. Then she took off work the first couple days back. Then the lift the mask mandate, then they decide to close.
|by Anonymous||reply 388||June 22, 2022 2:29 PM|
[quote]What will happen to long haired muscle stud Bobby Conte Thornton now?
He should donate some of his free time to community service, as pittance paid for the way he butchered "Another Hundred People."
|by Anonymous||reply 389||June 22, 2022 2:33 PM|
Seriously, r387? The tattoo's fake. Removing it should take no more than 10 minutes.
|by Anonymous||reply 390||June 22, 2022 2:34 PM|
[quote]You KNOW Patti is involved in some capacity.
Sure, it's got to be Patti. Nothing to do with capacity percentage being in the 60s and 70s or anything.
|by Anonymous||reply 391||June 22, 2022 2:39 PM|
[Quote] capacity percentage being in the 60s and 70s
More proof that Patty Lapone is not a star.
|by Anonymous||reply 392||June 22, 2022 2:40 PM|
They should bring in Christine Ebersole to replace LuPone. I’d like to see her do it.
|by Anonymous||reply 393||June 22, 2022 2:41 PM|
Being said in other places that a lot of the cast contracts are up in July, so the feeling is it couldn't survive a large cast change given how weak the current grosses are.
|by Anonymous||reply 394||June 22, 2022 2:42 PM|
I suspect they are all exhausted and maybe not excited to keep going, given the drama accompanying several bouts of Covid, understudies, nominations and, of course, Sondheim's death. All those things, coupled with limp ticket sales, might be enough to induce them to quit while they're ahead--or at least not further behind.
As for the poster upthread predicting obscurity for the Sondheim canon, feh.
|by Anonymous||reply 395||June 22, 2022 2:45 PM|
Shit! I wanted to see Ariana DeBose as Bobbi!
|by Anonymous||reply 396||June 22, 2022 2:56 PM|
Company will have ended up performing about 300 performances, stretched out over two years.
|by Anonymous||reply 397||June 22, 2022 3:24 PM|
Back To The Future musical was just announced for next Spring on Broadway. The triumphant return of Roger Bart.
|by Anonymous||reply 398||June 22, 2022 3:39 PM|
Katrina has some more surgery scheduled; she's doing The Secret Garden next.
|by Anonymous||reply 399||June 22, 2022 3:46 PM|
who is she playing in Secret Garden?
|by Anonymous||reply 400||June 22, 2022 3:48 PM|
The Daisy Eagan part. I was kidding.
|by Anonymous||reply 401||June 22, 2022 3:52 PM|
All this surgery isn't doing her any favors. Her face was never very expressive and now it's frozen.
|by Anonymous||reply 402||June 22, 2022 3:54 PM|
Botox isn't surgery.
|by Anonymous||reply 403||June 22, 2022 3:57 PM|
Any Bobby Conte gossip? He’s so hot.
|by Anonymous||reply 404||June 22, 2022 3:59 PM|
picky, picky r 403
|by Anonymous||reply 405||June 22, 2022 4:09 PM|
Indeed. I hated his "Another Hundred People," but if he'd done it shirtless and without the terrible fake tattoo, it would have been much more tolerable.
|by Anonymous||reply 406||June 22, 2022 4:11 PM|
That's his lesbian bff?
|by Anonymous||reply 407||June 22, 2022 4:20 PM|
Is Katrina playing the Mandy Patinkin role? Is she making a career out of stealing roles from men?
|by Anonymous||reply 408||June 22, 2022 4:23 PM|
r407, I don't know if she's his BFF, but it's Jenn Colella, who's definitely a lesbian.
|by Anonymous||reply 409||June 22, 2022 4:32 PM|
Bobby Conte likes to walk around backstage in just his well-stuffed white briefs.
|by Anonymous||reply 410||June 22, 2022 4:37 PM|
[quote] was sorry to read about the COMPANY revival closing. (Sorry mostly for the cast.)
Why? Is the cast better than the crew or front of house? They are out of work too.
|by Anonymous||reply 411||June 22, 2022 4:38 PM|
[quote] Yes thanks we didn't know
So Sondheim will be remembered for shows he didn't compose. Pretty bad for such a prolific composer.
|by Anonymous||reply 412||June 22, 2022 5:14 PM|
Jenn Collella swings both ways. Ask around...
|by Anonymous||reply 413||June 22, 2022 5:29 PM|
Wasn’t Patti kvetching in January about her costume and how uncomfortable she’d be in it in the dog days and nights of summer?
|by Anonymous||reply 414||June 22, 2022 6:07 PM|
Just by the numbers, this production of COMPANY was a major flop. If it hadn't been for the Covid dollars they would have closed in March. Yes, we're all obsessed with Patti, but Mr. Sondheim was correct. She is not a box office star. I have my theory that for all her brilliance she's a cold performer, and audiences just aren't that happy to spend time with her on stage. WARPAINT was particularly painful for that reason. The last thing she did that had some faked "heart" to it was Anything Goes. Everything since then has been a semi-celebration of ego and pain. She's brilliant, to be sure, but its just not that appealing beyond a certain scope of the public.
|by Anonymous||reply 415||June 22, 2022 6:32 PM|
My favorite Patti performance was the first preview of Gypsy at City Center. It was obvious she was nervous and that made her endearing (to me anyway). When I saw the show on broadway the following year she was her usual steamroller self and I liked her a lot less.
|by Anonymous||reply 416||June 22, 2022 6:43 PM|
[quote]Sweeney Todd and Merrily won’t survive their limited runs.
If Jonathan Groff is cast as Frank alongside of Daniel Ratcliffe as Charley, and if both of them stay for the Broadway run after the limited Off-Broadway run, I'm pretty sure MERRILY we survive at least as long as they are in it.
|by Anonymous||reply 417||June 22, 2022 6:46 PM|
[quote]Yeah where is Michael Reidel when u need him. You KNOW there is more to the Company story than the official statement.
If there is, he wouldn't know it - but he would gladly make something up, r388.
[quote][R407], I don't know if she's his BFF, but it's Jenn Colella, who's definitely a lesbian.
[quote]Jenn Collella swings both ways. Ask around...
Or ask her, or read interviews with her, r409 and r413. Colella is bisexual and poly.
|by Anonymous||reply 418||June 22, 2022 6:49 PM|
Wasn't Jenn Colella married to Chilina Kennedy last month??
Jeez, those lesbians get around.....
|by Anonymous||reply 419||June 22, 2022 6:50 PM|
[quote]I hated his "Another Hundred People," but if he'd done it shirtless and without the terrible fake tattoo, it would have been much more tolerable.
I think the main reason that performance doesn't work is that, for some reason, the song just doesn't seem right with a man singing it. And another song that doesn't survive the gender switch at all, in my opinion, is "You Could Drive a Person Crazy."
|by Anonymous||reply 420||June 22, 2022 6:54 PM|
I didn’t laugh once during his actual singing of “Not Getting Married” but I did laugh at his shrieks whenever the “Bless this day…” bitch appeared.
|by Anonymous||reply 421||June 22, 2022 7:04 PM|
The gender switch Company would have worked much better if they had made Bobbi a lesbian
|by Anonymous||reply 422||June 22, 2022 7:14 PM|
[quote] I think the main reason that performance doesn't work is that, for some reason, the song just doesn't seem right with a man singing it. And another song that doesn't survive the gender switch at all, in my opinion, is "You Could Drive a Person Crazy."
Sondheim was too good a songwriter to change the genders of his characters and assume the songs work as well. (I know, I know, gender is an artificial construct that doesn't exist, but my dick disagrees.)
|by Anonymous||reply 423||June 22, 2022 7:15 PM|
[quote]Company will have ended up performing about 300 performances, stretched out over two years.
Which is really not bad for a revival. People tend to forget that revivals don't tend to run anywhere near as long as new shows, with CHICAGO being the extraordinary, once-in-a-lifetime exception.
|by Anonymous||reply 424||June 22, 2022 7:16 PM|
Seems like it’s been several lifetimes at this point
|by Anonymous||reply 425||June 22, 2022 7:19 PM|
Patti can belt the hell out of a song, but is relatively charm-free, except to her most devoted worshippers.
|by Anonymous||reply 426||June 22, 2022 7:42 PM|
[quote]my dick disagrees
|by Anonymous||reply 427||June 22, 2022 7:46 PM|
Song of Norway (film)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Song of Norway is a 1970 American biographical drama musical film adaptation of the successful operetta of the same name, directed by Andrew L. Stone.
Like the play from which it derived, the film tells of the early struggles of composer Edvard Grieg and his attempts to develop an authentic Norwegian national music. It stars Toralv Maurstad as Grieg and
features an international cast including Florence Henderson, Christina Schollin, Robert Morley, Harry Secombe, Oskar Homolka, Edward G. Robinson, and Frank Porretta (as Rikard Nordraak). Filmed in
Super Panavision 70 by Davis Boulton and presented in single-camera Cinerama in some countries, it was an attempt to capitalize on the success of The Sound of Music, and was the first musical in
|by Anonymous||reply 428||June 22, 2022 7:57 PM|
You know that song from Frozen, r428?
|by Anonymous||reply 429||June 22, 2022 8:16 PM|
300 performances at 8 shows a week is about a 9 month run and change.
That's really not a good run for any musical, revival or not. The COMPANY revival is heavily invested in marketing, in print, digital, even on TV
I suspect the investors lost everything on this.
|by Anonymous||reply 430||June 22, 2022 8:24 PM|
r418, my sincerest apologies. I shouldn't have assumed that the woman who recently announced her engagement to a woman, and who had a highly publicized relationship with another female performer, is a lesbian. I was stereotyping her unfairly. But no, I will not be asking her because I really don't care.
|by Anonymous||reply 431||June 22, 2022 8:33 PM|
r420, I actually saw it with both Conte and the main understudy (Heath Saunders) in the role, and thought it worked just fine with Saunders, who was great. My issues were entirely with the way Conte performed the song--the weird vocal flourishes and way he delivered parts of it. It was too manic and uncontrolled. Saunders's version was much more controlled, sounded better, and was much more effective.
I agree with you on "You Could Drive a Person Crazy" though. Having a bunch of men getting in a woman's face and screaming at her and telling her she's crazy (even in a fantasy sequence that isn't really happening) plays a lot differently than having women do that to a man, and didn't work at all. I found it really uncomfortable.
|by Anonymous||reply 432||June 22, 2022 8:39 PM|
[quote][R418], my sincerest apologies. I shouldn't have assumed that the woman who recently announced her engagement to a woman, and who had a highly publicized relationship with another female performer, is a lesbian. I was stereotyping her unfairly. But no, I will not be asking her because I really don't care.
Forgive me if I find your apology less than sincere, r409 r431. You don't need to ask Colella. You can simply read this interview from FIVE YEARS AGO, or many others like it. I merely corrected your misinformation.
|by Anonymous||reply 433||June 22, 2022 8:51 PM|
David Bowie wears a "Song of Norway" tee shirt in one of his late videos "Where are we now?". Possibly a reference to an earlier girlfriend of his who split up with him because she got a part in, yes, Song of Norway . . .
Were there any good musicals made during the post- Sound of Music revival? Or was it all a race to the bottom with Lost Horizon leading the charge?
|by Anonymous||reply 434||June 22, 2022 8:54 PM|
I wouldn't be caught dead knowing a song from Frozen.
|by Anonymous||reply 435||June 22, 2022 8:56 PM|
Sure Jan, you've been living in a cave, By the way, You've yet to post a US ad proclaiming SofN is *in* Cinerama, r435.
|by Anonymous||reply 436||June 22, 2022 9:03 PM|
r433, funny enough, I was going to link that article in my reply as another cause for my having stereotyped her. I had read that interview and remembered that she'd said been married to two women before, which, combined with her two publicized recent relationships, led me to think of her (inaccurately) as a lesbian. But you're right, she does say she's only "mostly gay." Again, my deepest, most sincerest, most heartfelt apologies for my inaccuracy and for stereotyping her.
|by Anonymous||reply 437||June 22, 2022 9:10 PM|
If Company had starred Anne Hathaway as Bobbie, with Patti as Joanne, as had been discussed, the show would be selling a million plus a week.
It’s like CZJ and Angela Lansbury in Night Music.
|by Anonymous||reply 438||June 22, 2022 9:12 PM|
"but my dick disagrees"
And your dick has more sense than the reality-denying neurotics (the polite word) who think otherwise.
"I think the main reason that performance doesn't work is that, for some reason, the song just doesn't seem right with a man singing it. And another song that doesn't survive the gender switch at all, in my opinion, is "You Could Drive a Person Crazy."
But the most egregious of all--Sorry/Grateful. Men would never confess such intimate, masculine sentiments except to another man and only in a moment of bro-bonding. So, so false., like much else about this production.
"Broadway needs a big splashy musical."
Broadway needs a REAL musical with a REAL score that conveys REAL feeling (long gone from our stages).
"The orchestrations are sooo '60s."
Meaning excellent, musical and tasty.
|by Anonymous||reply 439||June 22, 2022 9:12 PM|
How did this thread miss Donna Murphy saying she’s going to stop going to the theater bc of the lifting of the mask mandate
|by Anonymous||reply 440||June 22, 2022 9:14 PM|
At least in the Broadway production “Another Hundred People” wasn’t sung by a fucking Australian.
|by Anonymous||reply 441||June 22, 2022 9:21 PM|
I hadn't heard about this. Link, r440?
Thanks for admitting that you knew you were deliberately misrepresenting Colella's sexuality, r437. I look forward to seeing her before Come From Away closes.
|by Anonymous||reply 442||June 22, 2022 9:22 PM|
THIS DAY IN BROADWAY HISTORY: In 1976, "Godspell" opened at the Broadhurst Theatre.
|by Anonymous||reply 443||June 22, 2022 9:31 PM|
I admitted no such thing, r442. I clearly stated that I misremembered an article I read 5 years ago. It appears you're no better at reading than I am.
I do hope you get to see Colella though, and that your investment in the fact that she does like cock will pay off for you.
|by Anonymous||reply 444||June 22, 2022 9:32 PM|
Has anyone gotten Karen Olivo's thoughts on the mask mandate? She is Broadway's moral compass you know.
|by Anonymous||reply 445||June 22, 2022 9:34 PM|
[quote]Were there any good musicals made during the post- Sound of Music revival?
"Oliver!" was one.
|by Anonymous||reply 446||June 22, 2022 9:37 PM|
As a gift to you, Colella stan, since you may not have thought to look at the obvious places Murphy would say such a thing, this is from her Instagram stories.
|by Anonymous||reply 447||June 22, 2022 9:38 PM|
The gen z they/thems on Twitter are having a meltdown because Ramin Karimloo had posted to his Instagram stories that he was excited they dropped the mask mandate for audiences.
Maybe he and Chad Kimball can do a show together somewhere with Laura Osnes.
|by Anonymous||reply 448||June 22, 2022 9:50 PM|
Thanks for the link I requested, r447. Typically, one provides a link here when mentioning information.
I'm not at all a Colella fan. The song Me and the Sky is my least favorite song in the show. I do like the show Come From Away, though.
[quote]I do hope you get to see Colella though, and that your investment in the fact that she does like cock will pay off for you.
No question about that, r444. I will be paid to see her. I am only interested in accuracy. The article that I provided at r433 (which you have now read twice) clearly states she is bisexual.
I do love this show, and I'm sorry to see it go. Here's the opening number. Skip to 2:00.
|by Anonymous||reply 449||June 22, 2022 10:00 PM|
Jenn was terrific as Hedda Hopper in Chaplin.
|by Anonymous||reply 450||June 22, 2022 10:06 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 451||June 22, 2022 10:09 PM|
I loved Krakatoa-East of Java in Cinerama. Yes, I am that old.
Sticking to the topic-Jackie Hoffman is kvelling on Twitter over that Kalukango gal in Paradise Square:
Ms. Kalukango got an audience to leap to their feet before the show was even over and it was the best damn thing ever #paradisesquare
|by Anonymous||reply 452||June 22, 2022 10:12 PM|
I bet that both Beanie and Benko are stressed out. One week ago Benko was Cinderella - she was the preferred Fanny Brice and talk of the town. Now with all of the Lea Michelle talk she is barely mentioned. …. After all of those missed performances Beanie has set herself up into a position where she really can’t call out again. Doesn’t she have 2 shows today? She is going to be hating like by Sunday.
|by Anonymous||reply 453||June 22, 2022 10:13 PM|
What about "a US ad" don't you understand, r451? Are you purposely being obnoxious?
|by Anonymous||reply 454||June 22, 2022 10:16 PM|
I was gonna produce a Broadway musical about gay male escorts, but the title “Hands on a Hard Body” was already taken, so what’s the point?
|by Anonymous||reply 455||June 22, 2022 10:18 PM|
Sondheim shows will be done by theater managers who idolize him but it will slow down considerably because his shows aren't big box office. A limited budget makes for many more difficult decisions and doing Passion isn't one of them.
|by Anonymous||reply 456||June 22, 2022 10:19 PM|
When Funny Girl played in the UK, did they change the name of the lead character? I’m sure Barbra didn’t appreciate running around the stage all night be called a “see you next Tuesday.”
|by Anonymous||reply 457||June 22, 2022 10:21 PM|
[quote]Jenn was terrific as Hedda Hopper in Chaplin.
Jim Borstelmann was lovely in that show, too. r450
I now see that r444 and r447 are the same person, which explains a lot.
Chaplin link (see how that's done, r447?)
|by Anonymous||reply 458||June 22, 2022 10:23 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 459||June 22, 2022 10:23 PM|
Fanny is not a pejorative term.
|by Anonymous||reply 460||June 22, 2022 10:23 PM|
Somebody has a problem knowing how beautiful we are in Cinerama anywhere in the world.
|by Anonymous||reply 461||June 22, 2022 10:26 PM|
Fanny isn’t a scientific term.
|by Anonymous||reply 462||June 22, 2022 10:30 PM|
per NYT obit for James Rado:
In 2008, Mr. Rado confirmed in an interview with The Advocate what had long been an open secret among his “Hair” castmates and collaborators: that he and Mr. Ragni had been lovers.
“It was a deep, lifelong friendship and a love of my life,” Mr. Rado stated simply. “Looking back,” he later elaborated about “Hair,” “what was really underlying the whole thing was the new way men were relating to each other. They were very openly embracing each other as brothers. It wasn’t gay; it wasn’t repressed… We suddenly realized this was a musical about love in the larger sense.”
|by Anonymous||reply 463||June 22, 2022 10:35 PM|
Mr. Rado, whose brother is his only immediate survivor, never married and did not identify as gay, but rather as “omnisexual.” Asked before the 2009 “Hair” revival opened if the show was based on his relationship with Mr. Ragni, Mr. Rado answered yes.
“We were in a love mode,” he said, “and this whole love movement started happening around us, so the show got it. ‘Hair’ was our baby in a way, which is pretty cool.”
|by Anonymous||reply 464||June 22, 2022 10:36 PM|
Got it, r461, you're just choosing to be obnoxious.
|by Anonymous||reply 465||June 22, 2022 10:47 PM|
Rado and Ragni were gay? I don’t believe it.
|by Anonymous||reply 466||June 22, 2022 10:50 PM|
Omnisexual, dear. Don't misrepresent sexualities. You'll upset the Colella stan.
|by Anonymous||reply 467||June 22, 2022 11:03 PM|
[quote] I wouldn't be caught dead knowing a song from Frozen.
Oh, just let it go already
|by Anonymous||reply 468||June 22, 2022 11:06 PM|
Rado and Ragni together. And Dick Cavett.
|by Anonymous||reply 469||June 22, 2022 11:32 PM|
Why can't Bobby Conte be an omnisexualist? Who cares about Jenn Colella and the dead James Rado?
|by Anonymous||reply 470||June 22, 2022 11:43 PM|
[quote] Some people have lives and don't read or post on DL 24/7 like you do, apparently. I hope your remark made you feel better about yourself, because, after all, that's why you're here.
You posted the same thing two posts after someone else, hon. So don't act like it was something you were meant to remember from days ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 471||June 23, 2022 12:08 AM|
Don't worry about them R368. The Company producers got tens of million of dollars in government hand outs as did every other show. They will be swimming in money for years. It's obscene. I 'm on the inside and saw it all. It was like the song from Evita "And the Money Kept Rolling In". PPP, SVOG, insurance and god knows what else.
|by Anonymous||reply 472||June 23, 2022 12:36 AM|
Anyone know how long John Barrowman was in Sunset Boulevard on Broadway? I was under the assumption that Alan Campbell played Joe for the broadway run
|by Anonymous||reply 473||June 23, 2022 12:38 AM|
Has there been another major musical with guys who were lovers and co-wrote and co-starred onstage together?
|by Anonymous||reply 474||June 23, 2022 12:43 AM|
[title of show]?
|by Anonymous||reply 475||June 23, 2022 12:49 AM|
Boy, that NY Times story on James Rado really brought back some memories of my introduction to NYC theater and HAIR. It was Galt MacDermot who gave me my first job, with Ragni & Rado having to give their blessing before I could start working. And yes, they argued like lovers. My friend Susan Batson was in the original production at the Public Theater, and she was both appalled and energized by the free-wheeling Ragni/Rado mess that became HAIR. Susan really couldn't sing the number WHITE BOYS and depended on her friend, Melba Moore, to carry the tune. It was during HAIR that I met Sally Eaton, became her friend.
But the one I'll always remember was my friend Galen McKinley, who was one of the stage managers for HAIR. Galen could have been a cast member because he certainly embodied the life style portrayed on stage. He had worked for Tom O'Horgan at La Mama, and when O'Horgan took over direction of Hair, he brought Galen with him. Everyone - especially Rado - loved Galen and although Galen loved his drinks and drugs, I don't think he had a mean streak in his body. And what a life he lived. As a 16 year old, Galen had become Harvey Milk's lover. When Galen toured with the national company of HAIR, Milk followed him. That's how Milk ended up in San Francisco. There, they broke up while Galen continued on with the tour.
I've written about Galen before on Datalounge. Galen and I remained friends until his accidental death at 33.
And I always laughed at folks who said that HAIR had no book, because, of course, it really did have a book - one that Ragni and Rado nurtured, loved, and protected. It was their story.
|by Anonymous||reply 476||June 23, 2022 12:57 AM|
Barrowman subbed while Campbell took time off to make a movie. I believe he played a limited 12 performances or something like that. Wasn’t long but he and Betty were great together.
|by Anonymous||reply 477||June 23, 2022 12:58 AM|
R442 seems totally unhinged and probably dangerous. Social media has made it clear that the percentage of people with significant mental illness is much, much higher than most of us would have imagined.
|by Anonymous||reply 478||June 23, 2022 1:33 AM|
Thank you for sharing, r476. That was lovely.
|by Anonymous||reply 479||June 23, 2022 1:36 AM|
Billy Boy R476, I knew and loved Susan Batson long before HAIR and Galen McKinley during the JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR years--what a sweet spirit he was.
|by Anonymous||reply 480||June 23, 2022 1:38 AM|
I assumed he misspelled Susan Watson.
|by Anonymous||reply 481||June 23, 2022 1:50 AM|
[quote]Who cares about Jenn Colella and the dead James Rado?
Who cares about your shallow interests?
|by Anonymous||reply 482||June 23, 2022 1:54 AM|
Jenn was definitely enjoying some nice big two time Tony winning and several times nominated cock just a few years back…
|by Anonymous||reply 483||June 23, 2022 1:59 AM|
[r483] who is that?
|by Anonymous||reply 484||June 23, 2022 2:02 AM|
I'm assuming Borle.
|by Anonymous||reply 485||June 23, 2022 2:09 AM|
I don't know how to link to an Instagram story, r442/r458. I'm sorry I took the time to download the post and upload it to a photo service to share it with you. (I'm also not r440, the person who originally mentioned Murphy's post.)
|by Anonymous||reply 486||June 23, 2022 2:22 AM|
R485, Only one Tony . . . and it's not that big.
|by Anonymous||reply 487||June 23, 2022 2:25 AM|
So Bobby Conte is omnisexual. That means he likes it in his mouth and ass at the same time, right?
|by Anonymous||reply 488||June 23, 2022 2:26 AM|
Give Lea Michele a break.
People are so mean to her.
|by Anonymous||reply 489||June 23, 2022 2:27 AM|
r487, Borle has two. Peter and the Starcatcher and Something Rotten!
|by Anonymous||reply 490||June 23, 2022 2:27 AM|
Christian Borle is a two-time Tony Award winner and has starred in a myriad of roles both on stage and screen. His turn as Shakespeare in Something Rotten! garnered him both Tony and Drama Desk Awards for Best Featured Actor in a Musical, as well as a Tony Award for Best Featured Actor in a Play as Black Stache in Peter and the Starcatcher.
|by Anonymous||reply 491||June 23, 2022 2:30 AM|
I always assumed Jenn Colella was a lesbian because she was too masculine and severe to attract men.
|by Anonymous||reply 492||June 23, 2022 2:40 AM|
Borle is fine but two Tonys?? Are they giving them away??
|by Anonymous||reply 493||June 23, 2022 3:11 AM|
[quote]Borle is fine but two Tonys?? Are they giving them away??
Not to some of us, they're not.
|by Anonymous||reply 494||June 23, 2022 3:14 AM|
I went to the Wikipedia page to remind myself who Borle beat for the second Tony...and while I don't think Doyle should have won this year, whoever chose this photo of him for the page is just mean. Ouch.
|by Anonymous||reply 495||June 23, 2022 3:17 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 496||June 23, 2022 3:18 AM|
That said, Matt and Max are really cute together.
|by Anonymous||reply 497||June 23, 2022 3:27 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 498||June 23, 2022 3:39 AM|
Polyamorous?? So now in the alphabet world of victim hierarchy, people are going to "bravely" say they have sex with more than one person as an identity??? For fucks sake.
|by Anonymous||reply 499||June 23, 2022 3:40 AM|
Hair really didn’t have a book, though. It was just songs thrown together. It took the film by Milos Forman (with a screenplay by playwright Michael Weller) to actually put the songs to use alongside an actual story.
|by Anonymous||reply 500||June 23, 2022 4:01 AM|
[Quote] I always assumed Jenn Colella was a lesbian because she was too masculine and severe to attract men.
Someone on a gay forum is pushing the "People resort to being gay" narrative?
|by Anonymous||reply 501||June 23, 2022 4:03 AM|
Steve Fickinger Dies: Producer On Broadway’s ‘Dear Evan Hansen’, Former Disney Theatrical Exec Was 62:
|by Anonymous||reply 502||June 23, 2022 4:58 AM|
Colellea as Hedda in Chaplin
|by Anonymous||reply 503||June 23, 2022 5:12 AM|
Weezer on Broadway:
|by Anonymous||reply 504||June 23, 2022 5:21 AM|
[quote] Pauline just didn't like movie musicals very much. Maybe FIDDLER, CABARET and that's it.
Sorry to drag us back to Pauline Kael, but one of her all-time favorite movies was Singin’ in the Rain. In her West Side Story review she wrote that she loved movie musicals but not ones that she thought were pretentious…like West Side Story.
|by Anonymous||reply 505||June 23, 2022 8:13 AM|
Pauline Kael calling something "pretentious".
|by Anonymous||reply 506||June 23, 2022 8:38 AM|
At least you didn't drag us back to "Song of Norway," R505.
|by Anonymous||reply 507||June 23, 2022 8:45 AM|
[qoute] Galen and I remained friends until his accidental death at 33.
How did he die?
|by Anonymous||reply 508||June 23, 2022 9:26 AM|
[quote] I always assumed Jenn Colella was a lesbian because she was too masculine and severe to attract men.
That's not how any of this works. You don't get your sexual preference from whom you attract but from to whom you are attracted.
|by Anonymous||reply 509||June 23, 2022 11:27 AM|
[quote] How did he die?
I'm not sure, but I'm ready to blame Song of Norway.
|by Anonymous||reply 510||June 23, 2022 11:31 AM|
[quote] Weezer on Broadway:
He's still around?
|by Anonymous||reply 511||June 23, 2022 11:31 AM|
[quote] You don't get your sexual preference from whom you attract but from to whom you are attracted.
Preference? You must be a straight Christian Republican
|by Anonymous||reply 512||June 23, 2022 11:33 AM|
I said “preference” not “choice.”
|by Anonymous||reply 513||June 23, 2022 11:37 AM|
Pauline also hated 1776.
|by Anonymous||reply 514||June 23, 2022 11:51 AM|
That money has to be accounted for R472, and has time limitations. I also work deep in the arts (and was involved with those who helped create SVOG in Washington) and everyone has to be very careful about where that money goes. Those that aren’t being careful are looking at serious ramifications, if not right now then down the line. Producers can’t use whatever tens of millions they may or may not have for just anything, including producing another show in the future. That’s not how PPP or SVOG works. People are going to jail for misappropriation, so if people you know are improperly using money or sitting on funds, they can get into a lot of trouble legally.
|by Anonymous||reply 515||June 23, 2022 12:47 PM|
[quote] I said “preference” not “choice.”
"Sexual preference" connotes that you can choose either and this one is what you prefer. This whole idea is what is used against gay people, hence " preference" is anathema.
|by Anonymous||reply 516||June 23, 2022 12:53 PM|
r512, no he's a homosexual visiting from the 60s.
|by Anonymous||reply 517||June 23, 2022 1:07 PM|
So does Lea have have the role or not?
|by Anonymous||reply 518||June 23, 2022 1:16 PM|
Pauline Kael's review of WEST SIDE STORY is a classic illustration of her musical ignorance.
|by Anonymous||reply 519||June 23, 2022 1:18 PM|
Who is totes stoked for BACK TO THE FUTURE, the Bway musical?
|by Anonymous||reply 520||June 23, 2022 1:37 PM|
R500, you are wrong. Hair did have a book.. The published script was the off-Broadway verson, which had more script than what went to Broadway.
On Broadway, a lot of the script was jettisoned, but there still was a shred of a story.
The film gave more book than either script had, but it still was not much of a compelling story. Changing Shelia from a Long Island commuter student to a society princess, giving Hud and an ex, etc were mainly needed because the characters had become less familiar over time. Sheila Franklin second semester NYU and she's a protester conjured up a specific image of a type in the late 60s that was unknown by the time the film was made (even though only a few years had past)/
|by Anonymous||reply 521||June 23, 2022 1:37 PM|
Has Annie Golden's Frank Mills performance been included on any DVD releases?
|by Anonymous||reply 522||June 23, 2022 1:39 PM|
I love her version of the song too, R522, but I'm not sure it was actually filmed. I think there's only the audio recording (included on the LP) made in advance of filming.
Annie, if you read these threads, can you confirm?
|by Anonymous||reply 523||June 23, 2022 1:43 PM|
Annie wouldn't have sung Frank Mills. Chrissy was played by future Miss America Suzette Charles and she was completely cut from the film. Annie Golden played Jeannie.
|by Anonymous||reply 524||June 23, 2022 1:46 PM|
Annie Golden recorded "Frank Mills" for the movie. It's on the original soundtrack LP.
|by Anonymous||reply 525||June 23, 2022 1:48 PM|
I dimly recall that Golden was filmed doing at least part of Frank Mills on a bridge.
|by Anonymous||reply 526||June 23, 2022 1:48 PM|
I saw Annie Golden on the street in NYC a year or two ago, and I stopped to tell her how much I loved her performance in Hair. She could not even sweeter. I wish I had asked her about Frank Mills, but I didn’t think her character sang it.
|by Anonymous||reply 527||June 23, 2022 1:49 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 528||June 23, 2022 1:49 PM|
[quote] Annie Golden recorded "Frank Mills" for the movie. It's on the original soundtrack LP.
Yes, but that's not what the poster asked. He asked if Annie Golden's performance of Frank Mills had been included on the DVD. Unless he wanted to see her in the recording studio, I assume he meant the scene in the film, and the scene in the film was shot with Suzette Charles playing Chrissy. I don't know if they also recorded Suzette singing the song or if she lipsynched to Annie's recording. (If you remember, there is an Asian girl who lipsynchs to Betty Buckley's voice in the film.)
|by Anonymous||reply 529||June 23, 2022 1:54 PM|
The movie has its problems, but some of the performances (Treat Williams, Golden) are wonderful. (It's the only time I ever found John Savage incredibly, adorably hot.) And some of the production numbers are fabulous, thanks to Twyla Tharp and her dancers.
|by Anonymous||reply 530||June 23, 2022 1:55 PM|
I wonder if Ellen Foley gave Beverly D'Angelo the stink eye.
|by Anonymous||reply 531||June 23, 2022 1:57 PM|
The movie is incredible. So much better than the stage version. Tharp's choreography should have gotten a special Oscar. The whole movie was criminally ignored and should have been up for several awards. I have seen the film in a theater several times and Cheryl Barnes' performance never fails to get a huge round of applause.
The only problem with the film is the editing. Some of it is sloppy and some of it is misplaced, no more so than during Barnes' performance where they continue to cut away from her to an extreme wide shot of the gang incredibly far away, arguing and trying to get Hud to come back. Nothing terribly dramatic is happening there, the shot is so far away that you cannot really see what's happening other than what you figure out a few seconds into it, and it never wavers or progresses throughout the subsequent cut backs. Meanwhile, an entire relationship and backstory is playing out on Cheryl Barnes' face as she's singing, and there's no need to leave her more than twice to go back to them.
|by Anonymous||reply 532||June 23, 2022 2:02 PM|
The disco accompaniment to a number of musical tracks didn't help matters either.
|by Anonymous||reply 533||June 23, 2022 2:04 PM|
There is no disco accompaniment to any tracks on Hair.
|by Anonymous||reply 534||June 23, 2022 2:06 PM|
I would tell R534 to watch the trailer at R530. And listen.
But that would involve removing his head from his own ass.
|by Anonymous||reply 535||June 23, 2022 2:10 PM|
My memory is the timing of the HAIR film was off. Too soon. It needed another 10 years for the late 1960s to become more meaningful and nostalgic to audiences.
|by Anonymous||reply 536||June 23, 2022 2:13 PM|
Loved the entire Black Boys/White Boys sequence.
|by Anonymous||reply 537||June 23, 2022 2:13 PM|
[quote] even though only a few years had past
Twelve years passed between “Hair” opening in NYC (‘67) and the film release (‘79)
|by Anonymous||reply 538||June 23, 2022 2:13 PM|
Wasn't The Big Chill from the early 1980s, though?
|by Anonymous||reply 539||June 23, 2022 2:15 PM|
[quote]I 'm on the inside
is not something someone who actually is on the inside would say
|by Anonymous||reply 540||June 23, 2022 2:16 PM|
[quote] I would tell [R534] to watch the trailer at [R530]. And listen. But that would involve removing his head from his own ass.
I've seen the movie more than a dozen times and I own the soundtrack. But yes, let's go with your assessment from having watched the trailer. You stupid cunt.
|by Anonymous||reply 541||June 23, 2022 2:23 PM|
R533, even in 1979 it was clear that the 70s style orchestrations were really wrong.
|by Anonymous||reply 542||June 23, 2022 2:28 PM|
They orchestrated for film, not for stage. Different medium, different sonic need.
|by Anonymous||reply 543||June 23, 2022 2:30 PM|
What is Cheryl Barnes' story? She didn't even have an album released until 1987, and even then, on an unknown label.
|by Anonymous||reply 544||June 23, 2022 2:31 PM|
That's actually a different Cheryl Barnes, R544. Common mistake. For years I thought that was also the same Cheryl Barnes. I do not believe Hair's Cheryl Barnes ever released an album. The closest she got (besides Hair) was the cast album for The Magic Show. She also sang a killer track on the soundtrack for American Gigolo called Love & Passion.
|by Anonymous||reply 545||June 23, 2022 2:33 PM|
That makes sense. The other Cheryl Barnes is much more glam.
|by Anonymous||reply 546||June 23, 2022 2:35 PM|
Did Barnes and Forman have a "thing"?
|by Anonymous||reply 547||June 23, 2022 2:36 PM|
This is the Cheryl Barnes who released the jazz album. Even Wikipedia has them confused.
|by Anonymous||reply 548||June 23, 2022 2:37 PM|
What the fuck is a Jass performer?
[Quote] Cheryl Dyrithe Barnes, Jazz Singer, Vocalist, Jass Performer, Jazz Singer
|by Anonymous||reply 549||June 23, 2022 2:39 PM|
r549, maybe she put the misspelling there so her site would still come up in searches if anyone spelled it incorrectly? Since the correctly spelled jazz is there too. (Of course that doesn't explain why Jazz Singer is there twice).
|by Anonymous||reply 550||June 23, 2022 2:46 PM|
[quote]Of course that doesn't explain why Jazz Singer is there twice
Maybe she was in both the Jolson and Neil Diamond versions.
|by Anonymous||reply 551||June 23, 2022 2:51 PM|
[quote]My memory is the timing of the HAIR film was off. Too soon. It needed another 10 years for the late 1960s to become more meaningful and nostalgic to audiences.
Yes, at the time of the film's release, this was cited by many people as the reason why it didn't do better at the box office despite some great reviews and the pop classic score.
Annie Golden has confirmed that she was supposed to perform "Frank Mills" in the movie and that they were going to film it on the Roosevelt Island tram. I'm not 100 percent sure if any of the song was ever filmed, but I don't believe so.
I mostly disagree with the person above who complained about the editing of "Easy to Be Hard." I think Barnes' performance would have been a little less powerful if the focus had remained on her for more of the song. As for those distance shots of the others, I think it's pretty clear that Hud is trying to walk away from the situation and his friends are trying to talk him into staying and working it out with the Barnes character. That said, there is a bit of a problem with the editing of that scene because, if you pay attention, you can see the same woman -- either an extra or some real-life person in the park -- walking towards the camera twice, over the same ground, in two separate shots. Unfortunately, there is a fair amount of sloppy editing in the movie, and the song "Donna" is another example.
|by Anonymous||reply 552||June 23, 2022 2:54 PM|
I gather “Frank Mills” was indeed filmed with Suzette Charles, in front of the Waverly, It has absolutely nothing to do with the story so I can see why it was cut.
|by Anonymous||reply 553||June 23, 2022 3:14 PM|
[quote]I gather “Frank Mills” was indeed filmed with Suzette Charles, in front of the Waverly, It has absolutely nothing to do with the story so I can see why it was cut.
What's your source for this info? I've never heard or read that. Also, if the number had been filmed, I'm pretty sure it would have been used in the final cut of the movie if only because it's such an iconic song from HAIR. I think it wasn't filmed, presumably because they ran out of time and/or the budget didn't permit it.
|by Anonymous||reply 554||June 23, 2022 3:19 PM|
Beanie got engaged. More time off for another wedding?
|by Anonymous||reply 555||June 23, 2022 4:42 PM|
She got engaged to Noah Fielding?
|by Anonymous||reply 556||June 23, 2022 4:45 PM|
That's a double insult to Noel
|by Anonymous||reply 557||June 23, 2022 4:47 PM|
Dang Treat has an amazing head of hair and it's real. Very lucky being from Long Island got to meet him and Annie Golden at their Broadway shows and I have the "Hair" DVD signed by John Savage ( thanks CHILLER!) and learned we had the same hometown on L I, Seeing NY cenrtic movies in NY are always fun. Saw "Hair" opening Sat night in it's exclusive NY area engagement at the Ziegfeld Theater and at the beginning when Claude's bus comes around the Jersey turnpike and NY's skyline comes into view, the entire burst into cheers.
|by Anonymous||reply 558||June 23, 2022 5:11 PM|
Back To The Future The Musical is based on a beloved movie, and can't miss! Like Mrs. Doubtfire, Pretty Women, and Tootsie!
|by Anonymous||reply 559||June 23, 2022 5:29 PM|
Don't forget The Pianist, starring Santino 'Box Office Poison' Fontana
|by Anonymous||reply 560||June 23, 2022 5:45 PM|
[quote] Back To The Future The Musical is based on a beloved movie, and can't miss! Like Mrs. Doubtfire, Pretty Women, and Tootsie!
Yay!! more shitty musicals to rob money from tourists.
|by Anonymous||reply 561||June 23, 2022 5:49 PM|
R560, when you made the statement that Santino Fontana is "box office poison," I'm sure you felt certain that marked you as someone "in the know" and smarter than everyone else. But in reality, and on the contrary, it shows you to be a glib idiot, as there is no real basis for the comment whatsoever.
|by Anonymous||reply 562||June 23, 2022 5:52 PM|
R562, except that part that Fontana is truly box office poison
|by Anonymous||reply 563||June 23, 2022 6:04 PM|
Tell us on what basis, R563, or shut up. And I hope you're not going to give "Mrs. Doubtfire" as "evidence," because only an utter idiot would believe that Fontana -- who won a Tony Award for his performance -- was the reason why that show tanked at the box office.
|by Anonymous||reply 564||June 23, 2022 6:08 PM|
I was actually in the Frank Mills scene in the movie as an extra. Suzette Charles did indeed sing it in front of the Waverly. (I remember she was very young and her mother was there, looking out for her.) She sang it with a guitar and the case was open in front of her, where people dropped change in. The problem was that she sang it nicely, but it was kind of boring, and wasn't funny at all and I can see why it was cut.
|by Anonymous||reply 565||June 23, 2022 6:10 PM|
[quote] Tell us on what basis, [R563], or shut up. And I hope you're not going to give "Mrs. Doubtfire" as "evidence," because only an utter idiot would believe that Fontana -- who won a Tony Award for his performance -- was the reason why that show tanked at the box office.
in addition to your utterly charming personality and writing style - and generous use of the word 'idiot' - you think Fontana was in Doubtfire when he was in Tootsie. So maybe it's time for you to go away for a while.
|by Anonymous||reply 566||June 23, 2022 6:16 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 567||June 23, 2022 6:17 PM|
"The Pianist" won Adrien Brody an Oscar, but it's a much less well-known and much less box-office proven property than any of the others recently mentioned. I don't think Tony winners in flops have the same box-office appeal for people to clamour for seats as someone who won for a big hit.
|by Anonymous||reply 568||June 23, 2022 6:22 PM|
Can someone file something with the courts if they are uncomfortable for their personal safety by someone wearing a gun holster around Times Square, in the lobby of the theater, or someone seated besides them?
|by Anonymous||reply 569||June 23, 2022 6:23 PM|
Name a hit Fontana was in...
|by Anonymous||reply 570||June 23, 2022 6:23 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 571||June 23, 2022 6:31 PM|
[quote]Pauline also hated 1776.
Maybe she would have liked the new tranny/nonbinary version.
|by Anonymous||reply 572||June 23, 2022 6:33 PM|
[quote]Beanie got engaged. More time off for another wedding?
Wearing a pink version of Judy Garland's blue gingham dress from "The Wizard of Oz" for her engagement photos was an interesting choice.
|by Anonymous||reply 573||June 23, 2022 6:36 PM|
here's Santino Fontana's IBDB page.
Some solid credits, but mostly supporting/replacement roles. Not a lot of leads.
And while he may or may not be poison, there's really nothing to suggest that he has real Bway box office clout, either.
|by Anonymous||reply 574||June 23, 2022 6:39 PM|
Why am I surprised Fontana is only 40? He seems older to me.
|by Anonymous||reply 575||June 23, 2022 6:40 PM|
His hairline has always made him look fortysomething.
|by Anonymous||reply 576||June 23, 2022 6:44 PM|
Sorry for the error, R566, but of course you know what I meant. And you're still an idiot if you insist on labeling Santino Fontana as "box office poison" because of TOOTSIE's failure at the box office. And.... speaking of personalities, yours is charm-free, but I'm sure that's a point of pride with you.
|by Anonymous||reply 577||June 23, 2022 6:45 PM|
Wonder how many who say the HAIR film is SO much better than the stage version actually saw one of the original productions? The staging, performances, and especially the political backdrop made the experience unforgettable. It also varied on the road and each city had its own "tribe" that gave their production its own individual stamp. I saw the Seattle tribe several times, as well as the one on Broadway. PS. I loved the movie too, but agree that it came out a bit too late for maximum impact.
|by Anonymous||reply 578||June 23, 2022 6:47 PM|
Doesn't Box Office Poison mean you're known enough for people to avoid your projects?
|by Anonymous||reply 579||June 23, 2022 6:47 PM|
[quote]And while he may or may not be poison, there's really nothing to suggest that he has real Bway box office clout, either.
No one suggested that he has real Broadway box office clout, but that DOES NOT mean he's "box office poison." It's incredible to me that anyone can't understand the huge difference between those two statements.
|by Anonymous||reply 580||June 23, 2022 6:49 PM|
It’s the scripts! Bad pictures! Bad directors!
|by Anonymous||reply 581||June 23, 2022 6:53 PM|
How is Santino Fontana box office poison?
Tootsie did badly, but Cinderella was a hit (running nearly 2 years) and Act One played out its whole limited run.
He did not open Hello, Dolly, but even so there was no noticeable box office dip when he came in.
Importance of Being Earnest lasted longer than anyone expected.
To be box office poison do you not need a record of tanking shows? Or is it now on the basis of one show? Because by that standard, just about everyone on Broadway has been box office poison.
|by Anonymous||reply 582||June 23, 2022 6:54 PM|
Beanie will do anything at this point to fill the Tony Award void hole nightmare, and whew boyo, that family photo is one motley crew!
|by Anonymous||reply 583||June 23, 2022 6:56 PM|
Another group hug of a Theatre Gossip Thread draws to a close!
Do you suppose the new one can NOT be preoccupied with Beanie and/or FUNNY GIRL?
|by Anonymous||reply 584||June 23, 2022 6:58 PM|
God Beanie is nauseating
|by Anonymous||reply 585||June 23, 2022 7:00 PM|
On a previous DL thread, it was suggested that Santino Fontana is a major pussy hound who cheats on his wife.
|by Anonymous||reply 586||June 23, 2022 7:01 PM|
[quote]How is Santino Fontana box office poison?
OF COURSE, he is not, only in the mind of one ultra-bitchy queen on DL.
|by Anonymous||reply 587||June 23, 2022 7:12 PM|
R508 Jack Galen McKinley died in 1980 in a fall from the eight story of an apartment building in Manhattan. While some of the biographers of Harvey Milk have speculated that Galen's death was a suicide, I am firmly convinced it was not. Galen was busy working on a new Tom O'Horgan show at the time and seemed very happy. Galen was cremated and his ashes were scattered in the Hudson River as well as off the Golden Gate Bridge near where he had helped scatter Harvey Milk's ashes the previous year. In 2009, Tom O'Horgan's ashes were scattered in the same place.
|by Anonymous||reply 588||June 23, 2022 7:15 PM|
While Treat Williams does indeed have a fabulous head of hair, that was not all his in the film of HAIR, but a complicated set of extensions that augmented his own locks.
I worked with the film's costume designer Ann Roth and know what I'm talking about. There wasn't time for Treat to grow out his hair and Ann and Treat didn't want to use a wig.
|by Anonymous||reply 589||June 23, 2022 7:23 PM|
r584, this one wasn't all that concerned with Beanie or Funny Girl, was it?
I don't know what the title title should be though, considering the scintillating topics this edition covered.
THEATRE GOSSIP: The Jenn Colella is a Polyamorous Bisexual...And Don't You Forget It! Edition
THEATRE GOSSIP: The Everywhere, Daddy, Daddy, HAIR Edition
THEATRE GOSSIP: The In Cinerama Edition
|by Anonymous||reply 590||June 23, 2022 7:35 PM|
This may interest no one but me, but I thought that it would be fun to compare Santino Fontana's credits with Rob McClure's, given the latter's bizarre cult following. Both actors were born in 1982.
FONTANA: * 9 Broadway productions over 13 years. He originated his role in 8 of them. * Of these, only BRIGHTON BEACH MEMOIRS closed surprisingly early (very early, in that bewildering case), and 2 were hits by any standard (3 if you count his stint in DOLLY). * 4 of the 9 were straight plays, including classics by Wilde, Miller and Simon. * He's won 1 Tony and 2 Drama Desks. (Off-Broadway, his turn in SON OF THE PROPHET scored at least 3 awards, including the Obie.) * 35 IMDB credits, including recurring roles in well-known shows like THE MARVELOUS MRS. MAISEL, CRAZY EX-GIRLFRIEND and MOZART IN THE JUNGLE, plus of course the voice of a lead in FROZEN.
McCLURE: * 8 Broadway productions over 20+ years. (He was an understudy in 1 and a replacement in 2 others.) * The only hits among these were the 2 in which he replaced -- AVENUE Q and SOMETHING ROTTEN, which both closed with him as the lead. * Only 1 of the 8 was a straight play (I'M NOT RAPPAPORT), and he was only an understudy there. * No Tony and no Drama Desk. * 17 IMDB credits, with only 1 modest recurring role (in THE GOOD FIGHT).
|by Anonymous||reply 591||June 23, 2022 7:37 PM|
Ramin wasting no opportunity to take off his shirt and show off his best side, no doubt.
|by Anonymous||reply 592||June 23, 2022 7:40 PM|
[quote] Do you suppose the new one can NOT be preoccupied with Beanie and/or FUNNY GIRL?
I agree. The theater thread should stick to what it does most: talk about casting for Follies.
|by Anonymous||reply 593||June 23, 2022 7:43 PM|
Santino F was utterly wasted in this season of MRS. MAISEL. I didn't understand the point of his character. And any unknown actor could have filled the role just as easily. I was bored by the whole strip club setting by the end.
I don't begrudge him all his hard work and success. But despite his TONY (and R591's exhaustive list of credits) I'd still venture to say that most people (including many Bway theatregoers) have no idea who he is.
|by Anonymous||reply 594||June 23, 2022 7:54 PM|
[quote]This may interest no one but me, but I thought that it would be fun to compare Santino Fontana's credits with Rob McClure's, given the latter's bizarre cult following.
Thanks for your defense of Santino, but I really wouldn't classify McClure's following as "bizarre." I would say instead that it's based on his talent rather than his track record in terms of the financial success of the shows in which he has appeared.
|by Anonymous||reply 595||June 23, 2022 8:11 PM|
R595, the commercial success angle of my post was in response to the Box Office Poison nonsense upthread.
What's bizarre to me is the adulation for McClure's "talent" -- when to me he's a hardworking professional, respectable in his way but utterly devoid of the presence and magnetism that would justify the outpourings he receives in some circles. Nothing I've seen him do demonstrates a particularly outstanding voice or physicality or comic style. I don't begrudge him his career, but I don't get the claims that he should be a big star with lots of awards.
|by Anonymous||reply 596||June 23, 2022 8:15 PM|
I've never understood why/how Christian Borle continues to be perceived as a Bway star, at least on DL.
He's hardly box office gold, either.
|by Anonymous||reply 597||June 23, 2022 8:19 PM|
R596, of course you are fully entitled to your opinion of Rob McClure, but still, I find it bizarre that YOU find it bizarre that so many people really like him and think he's exceptionally talented. And that obviously includes the producers, directors, and casting directors who keep casting him in major roles in major productions. That has got to mean something to you, doesn't it?
|by Anonymous||reply 598||June 23, 2022 8:19 PM|
Very very few performers affect the box office in a significant way. Hugh Jackman, Nathan Lane, Bette MIdler. You're talking about C-list talent.
|by Anonymous||reply 599||June 23, 2022 8:23 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 600||June 23, 2022 8:23 PM|
R598, that, I suppose, was the (other) point of my post -- yes, he works regularly, and good for him, but Fontana outshines him in every way, including the range of his Broadway and Off-Broadway rep.
Then again, this is Datalounge, where I once got ripped to shreds for pushing back against those who said that JoBeth Williams should have had Meryl Streep's career.
|by Anonymous||reply 601||June 23, 2022 8:24 PM|
Comment from this Youtube vid:
[quote]To mark the 95th anniversary of Bob Fosse's birth, we present excerpts from the 1978 tour of Chicago, featuring his original choreography and direction. Also seen are the original set, costume and lighting designs seen on Broadway (by Tony Walton, Patricia Zipprodt and Jules Fisher respectively). The merry murdresses here are Melody Adams and Kristen Childs, who were ultimately replaced at the end of the tour by the originals, Ms Rivera and Ms Verdon. Seen are "All That Jazz" (0:00), "All I Care About is Love" (5:35) and "We Both Reached for the Gun" (10:16).
[quote]Forgive the deplorable image quality. With a little patience it still provides an insightful look into the original production.
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