“Stockard Channing in Just Friends (1979) & “The Stockard Channing Show” (1980)- were they not the same show, essentially?

Ron Silver turned into a nasty conservative when he hit middle age. And then he died.

Ron Silver really lost his mind towards the end. Glad he's dead, really.

Stockard's big mistake was not singing her own theme song.

Both are stereotypical “comes to L.A. and tries to do her thing” stories. How can you tell them apart?

Did don't Ellen do essentially the same thing. Also she's fat in the second one.

I always liked the theme song.

They were two different shows in two different universes despite having identical premises and locations. Stockard Channing would speak of both shows and two seasons of the same show during interviews, which only confused people more.

I wanna watch this show

Anyone ever watch it?

They released both seasons in a DVD set about 15 years ago. Kitschy, but tough to get through.

Joan Darling was involved with the first show. Didn’t she sink everything she was involved with? I can see why they kept trying to get something to click for Channing; she seemed to be a natural for television.

But it never clicked. They were trying to ride off of the Grease mania but it didn’t work.

They changed her name to let the viewers know it was “Goodenow”.

I remember being a little gayling, 9 years old, and the biggest "Grease" freak in my neighborhood. I would beg my mother to let me stay up and watch this show because I loved Stockard so much. Even I knew this was a POS.

I loved Stockard after seeing Grease, too, R14. But I never could talk my mom into letting me stay up to watch her show, and then it was gone

There are worse things she could do.

I watched it. All I can remember is that in one of the shows, she had a sneaker as decoration on her mantel.

I think Stockard could have done well with her own show if they had found the right formula. It’s too bad that Murphy Brown hadn’t come along because that’s the type of show Stockard could have done: acerbic boss with well written characters.

Less than a decade before Stockard, they did the same thing with Sandy Duncan. Put her in a show, then the next season tried to retool the entire show.

I have furiously masturbated to BOTH shows, especially to Just Friends. So much that I have thrown up afterwards.

Stockard, my love…

Why would anyone name their child Stockard

They didn’t r19. That was her maiden name. She married a guy with the last name of Channing. Around the time of Grease, she was Susan Stockard Channing, but dropped her first name and took Stockard Channing as her professional name.

A thread about “Gloria” starring Sally Fucking Struthers exceeds 100 replies and I get less than two dozen?

Stockard Channing is certainly a more distinguished name than Susan Stockard or Susan Channing.

Well, Stocks, you were in that movie that glorified drag queens and that movie had that horribly long name, so everybody kind of ignored you.

Good news. The pilot for this just got uploaded on-line (at link) to watch.

Oh good...it's Mimi Kennedy.

I've always liked her, and I really buy them as sisters.

She looked 40 when she was in her 20s. And that speech impediment is annoying.

1980 show pilot

"Did don't Ellen do..."

Oh, dear.

She was known as Stockard Channing with her first film “The Fortune.” Did Mike Nichols direct it? Warren Beatty and Jack Nicholson were the stars and it was a showcase for her. It was supposed to be huge.

Thank god we got to the bottom of this mystery!

The Fortune

Episode 2 was just uploaded today.