Texas Latinos flip to Republican in special Comgressional Election

Why would anti-abortion, homophobic, anti-feminism, gun-obsessed, anti-science, hypocritical, ugly, fat, micro-peen Latinos vote for the Democrats? And why should we debase our values to be like them???

"And why should we debase our values to be like them???"

The key word here is "debase". Do you understand de base of the Democratic Party?

The question is will California, New York, Northeast, and rural Latinos follow Florida and Texas Republicans into the GOP

[quote] Why would anti-abortion, homophobic, anti-feminism, gun-obsessed, anti-science, hypocritical, ugly, fat, micro-peen Latinos vote for the Democrats?

We prefer to call them Dreamers

[Quote]Texas Latinos flip to Republican

Well, I guess all is forgiven.

Special election, close to zero turnout, no investment by national party, GOP candidate outspent the Democrat 16 to 1, held under lines that will be obsolete in 4 months.

Successor district in November is ten points more Democratic and has an incumbent in it. She will be in Congress for 6 months before heading out the door in January.

Weird things happen in redistricting + special elections.

Not sure what OP's upshot here is. Because rural Tejanos in South Texas want to vote for Republicans, I should...what? Not support lower prescription drug costs? Give every kid a free AR-15 on their 18th birthday? Storm the Capitol with an armed militia?

"The question is will California, New York, Northeast, and rural Latinos follow Florida and Texas Republicans into the GOP"

From this article: "For example, according to election data analyzed by the Allentown Morning Call, Biden won 74% of the vote in two city ward districts, which are both about 78% Hispanic. While that may seem like a healthy victory, Hillary Clinton won 83% of the vote in those wards in 2016. This improvement for Trump in Allentown was mirrored nationwide."

Open the borders! Amnesty!

R3, Rick Caruso anyone?

r7 I chuckled when I saw those stats back then. So much self-flagellation by the Dems over those brown kiddies in cages during his presidency, and he only increased their support in the end, you just have to laugh.

We all knew the country would get (even) more moderate as they enter the electorate. They are by and large socially conservative and that's something that'll slowly start reshaping the country in the coming decades.

Not only that, but Latinos are increasingly evangelical

^And we don't want what you think we want. We don't want your patronizing "victim" label. And we don't want/need your hand outs. We work for what we have.

Latinos are leaving the Democratic party. Biden approval is currently 6040 against with Latinos. Latinos prefer the term Hispanic is forced to choose but primarily identify with their country or origin or as American immigrants. American immigrants don't like the woke BS and systemic racism navel gazing because they come from countries with first order problems, not second order, which are nebulous and non discrete so much more difficult to define and address.

Latinos are ~18.5% of the US whites are 60% blacks 12.5%. Also, like red hair, height, or other cosmetic genetic traits, skin color is a stupid thing to divide humans over. I wish Democrats still believed that like they did ten years ago.

You mean NPR reporting about injustice to BIPOC isn’t galvanizing the Hispanic community. Hard to believe

The majority of voters don't care about NPR, Twitter, or cable news. The highest rated cable news show gets 3.6 million viewers (the Five on Fox). 150 million people actually vote.

We need to stop focusing on media.

Latinos are retards and are always sucking up to Anglos, so this doesn’t surprise me.

"But... I'm white..."

And these ugly Mexican illegals are the same people Dumbocrats keep helping.

Latinos are retards. Defund the police. Pregnant people not women.

It’s hard to understand why Dems are in trouble.

R19 = Latino asshole desperate for white approval

R20 = Wesleyan’s best, confused as to why the promises made on campus aren’t coming true in real life.

[quote]Dems

Hi footface from Shittsburgh.

[quote]do great with the MSNBC/Twitter left, but they have a big problem with male working class Americans white, black, and brown.

Working class whites are the Republican base due to their lack of education, and their paranoia, racism and sexism. Do keep up.

Hispanic men are 55% democratic lean, 30% Republican lean.

Black men are 79% democratic lean, 19% Republican lean.

You’re fearmongering up the wrong party’s tree, DefatTurd.

Is your Twitter still protected, Matt? After all, you can’t have people trolling your tweet’s comments, right? Trolling is wrong.

I'm sure we carried the Latinx vote. (Purple haired Latino kids home from college for the summer)

I lived in south Texas (South Padre Island) in the late 1990s. It was already Republican back then. This is no surprise.

She's an attractive woman. I'm sure that helped with the votes...especially the male votes.

She looks like a clown 🤡 with all that makeup.

All of you fretting over the demise of the Democratic Party should READ THE ARTICLE at the link. She won because the Democrats didn't invest in this election at this time since they will win it in November. Whether or not that was wise, it is extremely unlikely that the party will lose the election that matters: the one in November.

[quote]Why would anti-abortion, homophobic, anti-feminism, gun-obsessed, anti-science, hypocritical, ugly, fat, micro-peen Latinos vote for the Democrats? And why should we debase our values to be like them???

Because long-term democratic strategy, based on past voting trends, was that Hispanics would help them turn certain states, like Texas, blue. This is not going according to plan because I think the party has unestimated how conservative many Hispanics are and the party has done some things to push that demographic into the waiting and open arms of the republicans.

Once again, it's all about messaging and outreach.

So, now people of Hispanic background are the new Deplorables, according to R1,11, 16,18,20. You might want to check with Hills how well that worked out for her.

Now it's LatinE. Latinx was rejected so they're inventing more words no one wants.

Let all those asshole conservative Mexicans stay in that shithole known as Texas and let them do what ever they want there. The other ones that live in other states can go move down there too. Keep those assholes in one area.

Referring to them as "Latinx" is enough to drive them to the GOP.

Americans are stupid. Why should the subset of Hispanics differ? Why should they be the ones expected to read; to listen not to FOX; to be knowledgeable about Republican policies, votes on Bills, corruption, pro-Putinism, anti-Social Security and Medicare plans, etc.? Sarcasm.

"GOD. FAMILY. COUNTRY." = "Christian-Only. Forced-Birth. The Wall."

And all under the tacit aegis of "GUNS."

She'll get rich giving the local dummies what they think they want.

Hope you are joking, or just being ironic R31. If not, Spend some time with Mexican Americans, or any other group, before you judge. Having been in a biz. relationship with a Mexican American, I can tell you I adore them. Friendly(once they know you aren't judging them) fun, welcoming, great food, music & yes, family oriented. & very country oriented as well. They love a laugh, a good meal, some music & a dance. I love em'. Once, you're in, you suddenly have this whole other loving family. And they take you as you are.

My biz. partner was also a gay man. He was always out to his parents, his 6 brothers & sisters. He was not messed with in his youth growing up in the South West. They adored his longterm(30+years)partner. They helped cared for the partner when he was dying.

[quote]They love a laugh,

What an interesting people these must be. Those who love to laugh. Who ever heard of such a thing?

Fascinating.

^Thought I should just put it in black & white, since quite a few posters seem to be portraying them as subhuman.

Any Latino that votes for a Republican is a self-loathing traitor to their own kind.

Like roaches voting for Raid. Like jewish people voting for Hitler. Like LGBT+ people voting for Jerry Fallwell.

It's fucking stupid, insane, self-defeating, and self-destructive.

WTF is wrong with these people??

^These people. & comparing them to roaches. Nice one. Good move. Think you should work for the Dems & get out those votes. Check out what 'these roaches' like to eat & put a trail of it to the polls.

Hate comes in all colors & sexual preferences, I guess.

R38, that roaches comment is a quote from John Leguizamo, you overly-politically-correct asshat. He's Latino if you didn't know. Dumbass. Stop trying to manufacture offense when there is REAL offensive crap right in front of your face, like minorities voting for WHITE SUPREMACIST BIGOTS. Jesus, WTF is wrong with you?

Mental health is a luxury you don't even consider when you can't afford food.

Liberals are too fat, lazy and self absorbed to relate to the American working class. The twitter echo chamber is out destruction.

Latinos are roaches, defund the police, pregnant people not women. It's all working according to plan.

[quote]Why would anti-abortion, homophobic, anti-feminism, gun-obsessed, anti-science, hypocritical, ugly, fat, micro-peen Latinos vote for the Democrats?

Are you by any chance a Democratic strategist? If that slogan doesn't win Latino hearts and minds, I don't know what will.

Dear God, this is an absolutely vile thread.

Dems rolled the dice for blacks, "trans" and Muslims. And they've crapped out. And still don't understand why.

B-but we call them Latin X and Brown People... they love us.... why didn't they vote for us??

[quote]Latinos are leaving the Democratic party. Biden approval is currently 6040 against with Latinos.

6040?

[quote]Any Latino that votes for a Republican is a self-loathing traitor to their own kind.

^ Exactly the reason people are leaving the Democratic Party in droves. Keep it up.

r46 I assume 60% disapprove of him while 40% approve.

40% is being generous. A Quinnipiac poll has him at 26% approval among Hispanics.

[quote]Liberals are too fat, lazy and self-absorbed to relate to the American working class.

This is pure bullshit of course. Utter sophistry. Liberals are the only ones working to help the American working class.

The WHITE American Working Class is too damn racist and sexist to handle it of course They cut off their own noses in order to prevent racial minorities from getting the same help they need.

Conservatives have NOTHING to over the American Working Class beyond someone to blame (and it's the wrong people... the REAL people to blame for the plight of the American Working Class are conservatives and republicans!)

[quote]Hispanics are abandoning Biden in droves. Here’s why

Because they're fucking morons.

[quote]Exactly the reason people are leaving the Democratic Party in droves. Keep it up.

Why, can't handle the truth? WTF is wrong with you? Why would you cut your own throat and then blame the people saying "yeah, you probably shouldn't do that"??

If we elect Republicans, them prices will go down!

[quote]Latinos are roaches, defund the police, pregnant people not women. It's all working according to plan.

R41, of course none of those things are Democratic slogans.

Democrats: got everyone vaccinated for free, finally got funding for BADLY needed infrastructure repair, got people money to make it through the pandemic, got schools open again, work on the root causes of illegal immigration across the southern border by working with countries to improve the conditions down there so they don't feel compelled to come here, got jobs back in record time (more jobs created in a shorter time than ever in history), reduced the budget deficit in record time (falling farther and faster than any time in history), united our NATO allies exactly when needed, and basically are working hard to make lives better for all Americans of all races, faiths, creeds, etc.... and all you people can do is bitch and whine.

WTF is wrong with Americans? The only decent party that has any interest in the hard work of governing and making this country better, and everyone shits all over them and runs to the party of pathologically lying criminally corrupt fascist authoritarian white supremacist con-men, morons, incompetents, frauds, and idiots.

This nation will die, and it will because of all these assholes and morons and bigots rejecting Democrats and embracing the new Nazi Party, the Republicans.

It's the classic "I got mine" or "pulling up the ladder behind you" mentality. I got across the border, now close it for the others and lower taxes, so I can live my American Dream of becoming a millionaire one day. It doesn't help that so many leftist countries in Central and South America are shitholes, which then becomes their main reference point when casting a vote in the US.

Republicans want to destroy social security, medicare, and medicaid. They want to end the ACA and knock tens of millions of people off their healthcare and skyrocket healthcare prices. They want to raise taxes on working people and the middle class, while cutting them even more on the wealthy. They want to commit genocide against LGBT people, and strip Black & Brown people of their civil rights. They want to destroy the public school system and replace them with private for-profit religious indoctrination.

This is not hyperbole. This is not exaggeration. These are all things public GOP officials and office-holders have said publicly, as well as the obvious outcome of nearly all their "policies", such as they are.

Why the fuck is anyone supporting these monsters?

ESPECIALLY the TARGETS of GOP hate and violence, like Latino people?

Why the fuck would any self-respecting LGBT person side with them?

[quote] pregnant people not women. . .of course none of those things are Democratic slogans.

Say what???

[quote] work on the root causes of illegal immigration across the southern border by working with countries to improve the conditions down there so they don't feel compelled to come here,

Say what???

[quote] united our NATO allies e

Say what???

[quote] The only decent party

Say what???

[quote] all these assholes and morons and bigots rejecting Democrats and embracing the new Nazi Party,

Demonizing and scapegoating was one of the principle tactics of the Nazi Party.

Erratum R61 Lemme try that again: Demonizing and scapegoating were some of the principle tactics used by the Nazi Party.

Anecdotal, but if you bothered to listen to alternate media, you'll hear a completely different perspective. On last night's Timcast, Hispanic journalists Jorge Ventura and Drew Hernandez discussed the Latino shift away from the Democrats, and it comes down to the culture wars -- go to the 34 minute mark in the video. Hispanics, along with other immigrant groups from Asia and Africa, tend to be more religious and conservative compared to white people in the Democratic party, and the battles over abortion, trans, and even gay rights are a turn off to them, and they feel very strongly about legal vs illegal immigration. As ever, I will say the Republicans are awful, and they are pouncing on these issues to their benefit without really wanting to help the poor in those communities; but our corrupt political system is set up to benefit only two parties, and until we can correct that, this will be on-going.

[quote] They want to commit genocide against LGBT people, and strip Black & Brown people of their civil rights. This is not hyperbole. This is not exaggeration. Why Why the fuck would any self-respecting LGBT person side with them?

Why the fuck would any rational person give credence to someone who uses hyperbole and exaggeration (genocide??? seriously???) to agenda?

Exactly- a lot of "brown" people are anti-abortion, and a lot of black people are anti-gay.

Culture wars are not our friend.

As for ACA, the expanded child tax credit under Covid- you seem to misunderstand above in your wild hyperbole that not all people of color participate in government programs. Many work and have private insurance or pay for care directly. There's a fundamental fantasy voter of color problem here.

80% of all black households and 83% of all Hispanics households in 2020, when rates were higher, ARE NOT in poverty.

There are a few misconceptions about Hispanic voters. 1) many are not immigrants, they are first/second generation native born citizens. 2) most of the immigrant ones, who become citizens, came here in some legal manner and therefore take an extreme dislike towards illegal immigration. Many of those voters see illegal immigration as importing the problems from their home country that they purposely left behind. Therefore, being anti-illegal immigration isn't a negative to them, it is a plus.

But, if there is one thing polls tell us that Hispanic/Latino voters hate almost universally, it is the term Latinx.

Free assault rifles for everyone!! Yay!!

[quote] Successor district in November is ten points more Democratic and has an incumbent in it. She will be in Congress for 6 months before heading out the door in January.

That could happen, but the incumbent is from a different district, he moved from the 15th district when his house was moved into the 34th and his old district was made redder, Ms. Flores will be the actual incumbent. The GOP is also planning to pump a lot of money into this race it was already on the NRCC's list of Democratic districts to target.

[quote]Any Latino that votes for a Republican is a self-loathing traitor to their own kind. Like roaches voting for Raid. Like jewish people voting for Hitler. Like LGBT+ people voting for Jerry Fallwell. It's fucking stupid, insane, self-defeating, and self-destructive. WTF is wrong with these people??

In any universe, they're miles better than you, fool. They don't want or need the things you THINK they do. Your assumptions about Latinos being victims and "voting against their own interests" are dead wrong. Hello.... let THEM tell you what they need. They don't need you to white-splain to them what their concerns 'should' be.

[quote] They want to commit genocide against LGBT people, and strip Black & Brown people of their civil rights. They want to destroy the public school system and replace them with private for-profit religious indoctrination.

[quote]This is not hyperbole. This is not exaggeration.

Nope. Doesn’t even sound like it is. Not even a little. 🙄

She’s hot

The other big reason Hispanic people are turning away is that the Democratic Party recast their minority priority back with Black voters after Clinton/Kline had pivoted so hard to Hispanics, and Hispanics aren’t impressed. They knew that they’re 20% and growing and Blacks are 13% and shrinking. Add Asians who are 7% and growing (especially South Asians) and you can easily win elections without the black vote if you win 1/2 each of Hispanic and Asian voters. Why was it Kamala and not Catherine Cortez Masto or Michelle Lujan Grisham? Why was it Ketanji Brown Jackson and not Gonzalo Curiel? Why is it always a Cuban or Puerto Rican and never a Mexican-American? They noticed they were being taken for granted, and were easy pickings.

Black voters have consistently higher voting rates than Hispanics or Asian voters. And the demos are not evenly spread around the country so their citation is kind of pointless. Asian voters are concentrated in blue states already. Hispanic voters powered the Arizona flip. Black voters powered the Georgia flip and the retention of the senate. Texas is a mirage for Democrats.

Daily propaganda helped make this happen. It’s like chickens voting for Colonel Sanders. Smfh…

How so, R75? What awful things will happen to Latinos if they vote repub? The ones who are gainfully employed and legal.

Well I think that a lot of republicans want profiling to be legal. So police would be able to pull over Latinos to check to see if they are illegal immigrants or not. That would be like blacks getting pulled over too often.

^That all you got?

^R39. Are you Hispanic? John Leguizamo is. He can call other Hispanics whatever he wants.

Here, let's break it down for you. Its rolls like this if an AA person uses the N word they won't get a beat down on 125th St. If you aren't AA & you do, you might want to choose a location in Harlem before you shout out the N word, Like a location close to the nearest hospital.

They're not 'Latin' or even Spanish. 95% of their DNA is indigenous peoples of the Americas. In the U.S. we call them Native Americans or First Nations.

^ Personally, I call them by their names. I don't ask them for their DNA results.

[quote]And these ugly Mexican illegals are the same people Dumbocrats keep helping.

Did you get lost, dear? Dumbocrats? Seriously? GTF outta Datalounge, rightwing, mouthbreathing 'tard.

[quote]But, if there is one thing polls tell us that Hispanic/Latino voters hate almost universally, it is the term Latinx.

That saddens me.

I've mentioned this before here, but the guys who recently did my roof and siding (all Mexican-Americans, first or second gen) LOVE Trump. He's an admirable macho Strong Man in their eyes.

R18

Illegals aren't the ones voting republican you dumb cunt.

Critical thinking skills are critical in a social media environment with no journalistic standards. Alas, most people lack them, those who desire power or chaos at all costs take advantage and everyone’s vote counts. Those concerned only with money in the party less center have traded their values for conservative fiscal policy & willfully and knowingly advance their causes upon lies, phobias and exploitation.

The whole matter is distasteful.

R76, if you have to ask that question, there is absolutely nothing I can tell you. You’re willfully ignorant, a mediocre troll, or both. Happy Trails, Miss Thing.

R34, You seem to be okay with generalizing in a positive manner....

In any case, the topic is about the Republican variety. I find zero anything "friendly" of such, not even if they'd invite me to dinner and sing the Star-Spangled Banner.

Well, r84, you had some ignorant sumbitches work on your roof.

Trump "Macho Man"?! Do those dumbasses know he can't drink while holding a glass with only one hand? That he can barely navigate a ramp? That he's obese? That he wears Depends?

THAT HE HATES MEXICANS, THEIR FAMILIES, AND THEIR HOME COUNTRY??

The stupid, esta en todas partes.

r1 leftwing racism is just so progressive.

What are the concerns then, r70 (answer only if Latino/Hispanic, por favor)?

Wait; let me guess. Believing they can get rich "by playing by the rules."

Believing Protestant Christian Whites are on the same side as Roman Catholic Browns in wanting to foster racial equality. And that the latter are welcome in the neighborhoods of the former.

Believing that when PCWs talk about private-school vouchers that they include RC parochial schools and not just the likes of Andover, Choate, etc.

And, being rather matriarchal, believing that having the same anti-abortion stance in general means that PWCs wouldn't put a post-pregnancy woman in prison, or wouldn't save her life if endangered by the pregnancy.

Latinos don't want to vote for a Party that prioritizes Blacks over everyone else. Neither do whites.

LOL @ R75/R87. Still got nuthin' I see.

That GIF is perfect for you, R93. I think you finally get it! LOL

The Trump as a "macho" man cracks me the fuck up. He's obese, out of shape (remember the golf cart when everyone else was walking about 800 yards?). A macho man does not meticulously apply pancake make up (badly, I might add) and elaborately style his hair to cover his balding head. A real man owns that shit and shaves his head.

[quote] and elaborately style his hair to cover his balding head. A real man owns that shit and shaves his head.

Yeah, a real man does that

That's nice R96 but I wasn't discussing Biden and I don't believe Biden was called a macho man.

R96, that you equate the two reveals your psychosis. Or at least a severe visual impairment.

Latinos know that women who have abortions and homosexuals are their enemies and they're convinced Republicans will put a stop to the existence of both.

Democrats were told this for months but it's not as if they haven't known it for decades...

Yet perhaps they were blindsighted by the regressive era we went thru... and the malicious antintellectualism that has seeped into the leftwing. It's even worse among the nations of South America, where ahistorical kiddies believe they are descendants of the aztecs (because they know of no others and the long standing use of it with supremacy cults that taut it as an ancient alien civilization and part of the hollow earth mythos)... and the aggressive push in these activist cults for socialism, which sends many former leftists to the right. . . which, unfortunately, remains in it's far wings.

But their leftist parties are failing the same way when they move to the other side, they come at them with all mindless hate from slurs to violence... which, of course, doesn't lure back these wayward lambs to the ideals of paternalistic state. . .

U.S. Dems have been running in place. . . they haven't learned a single thing from losing to Trump. We see them making the same mistakes over and over again.

The one thing about the racists on the right, they approach you from the front. The bigots of the left always come at you from behind or the peripheral.

And democrats, like many of the liberals here, infantilize minorities. . .

republicans are no better, especially with Trump still in the wings. . .

But Biden remains a point of contention among many. . . particularly those old enough to live through the rest of his career. He's not Trump is no longer selling. It's not enough.

And the candidates were weak in most districts. . . I mentioned it months ago while watching the debates that most seem to debate as if they had their eye on the white house whether than their elections they were in.

But it's a problem of politics all over... no one wants to buidl up anymore... they all aim to work pyramid schemes from the top down.

r99 and now, you're ready to build a wall and deport, eh? go figure.

Democrats so desperate for non-voter youths... they're alienating established voters.

[quote]Latinos don't want to vote for a Party that prioritizes Blacks over everyone else. Neither do whites.

This is either the 2nd or 3rd time I've seen this. Black women show up for democratic candidates between 92 and 97 percent of the time. Black men, while not nearly as loyal as black women, are still pretty loyal to democratic candidates - despite some slight movement to more conservative candidates (but nothing for democrats to be overly concerned about - yet) So, what would you have the party do? Just completely pretend one of their strongest voting blocks doesn't exist?

The way I see it, democrats can't count on white women and it seems like in every election about 20% of gays vote republican. So, please tell me... what do the democrats do since you're tired of those blacks taking up all the air in the room?

R102 sounds like a vile racist

R102 There are many issues where a proposal would benefit people across demographic groups, but the Democrats and the media portray it as being a "black" issue. Police brutality for instance, shouldn't have been just focused on black men. The police shoot too many people in this country, full stop. Especially if you are a young working class male of any race/ethnicity. I would posit that one of the main reasons young black men are represented disproportionally is because of the fact that black people have the highest poverty level of any race/ethnicity other than perhaps Native Americans, and the most impoverished of them tend to live on reservations which are like small towns, where you know the cops and are probably related to them.

By, highlighting it only as a racial issue, it makes it easy for others to use it to divide people. Since the George Floyd riots, there has been at least three police shootings in my area, where the media was blasting it around on tv and the internet, it until they found out the cops shot a white guy and it was like it never happened.

[quote] it seems like in every election about 20% of gays vote republican

Trump got 28% of the gay vote in 2020.

Bush got 33% in 2000.

R110 I'd like to know the actual breakdown by letter, as in what percentage of Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals, Trans and "others", vote each way. I suspect it isn't even across the board.

What did trump get in 2016?

I am 61 years old. I have been out since the age of 18 and I have voted in every election, never missing one, even the small, local ones. In that time, I have always read that Black people have voted for Dems by over 90%. Also that LGBT folks have always gone for Dems 2-1. The majority of White men have not voted for a Dem (for POTUS) since JFK. Lately, the trend for for Latinos (& API) has been for Dems 2-1. As many have noted, I keep reading how the Republicunts are making inroads with Hispanics using Spanish language media and painting Dems as Hugo Chavez supporters, Marxists, pedophiles, etc. The GOP base is shrinking/dying, they have no other choice. Old White folks are keeping the GQP alive.

R111, there was an article in recent weeks indicating that trans voters are more conservative than gays and lesbians; this article isn't the one that I was thinking of, but it's of the same theme:

¡Viva Pan-Latinx Systerhood!

This is why we have always liked Mexicans!

Like other people who also actually work for a living, Mexicans have voted Republican since Reagan.

Why did the former Rep really resign? I saw it was to join a lobbying firm. That seems like bullshit. Was it getting ahead of redistricting?

Latinos are assimilating into the culture and finding that the white working class bogeyman trope isn’t as real as the Democratic Party made it out to be.

Same road as Italians and other Mediterranean immigrants a century ago.

The problem is always blacks. Mexican society doesn’t have Blatinos the way Caribbeans (read: Puerto Ricans) do. Blacks don’t like Latinos whereas you don’t see the same for whites.

Look at Chicago where the blacks were going ballistic they’d lose wards to Latino alderman because of demographics.

Democrats and their “big tent” always go back to black and after the George Floyd summer people are real tired of it. Why wouldn’t Latinos be? There’s no “solidarity” there no matter how much the Dems and the MSM try to make the world “people of color” vs white.

Hispanics esp. Mexican Americans are willing & do work hard for their money. They are not willing to see Politicians waste it & give it away to people who will not work. They are fundamentalists by accident. Hard lives & work has created an interesting phenomena. They live by the old testament proverb , No work, no eat, without even knowing they are.

If you are blest to be invited to a big party or dinner with MexicanAmericans, no one sits around while there is something to be done. All hands on deck to cook, set up, breakdown, clean up.

I wonder what effect this will have on the proposed reparations in California. About 40% of the people in California are Latino.

But do Latinos feel guilt and responsibility for the plight of blacks? Will they care if the state shells out money for reparations? I guess we'll find out if the reparations recommendations go forward.

Just posting this here:

R57 - R61 is a raging idiot and propagandist, pushing debunked nonsense or cherry-picked spin & distortions, and proves yet again exactly what is wrong with this country, the media, and Republicans in general.

Jesus Christ, that level of ignorant arrogance is going to destroy this country. It already is.

[quote]Demonizing and scapegoating was one of the principle tactics of the Nazi Party.

Yes, and that's exactly what the GOP is doing to racial & religious minorities, LGBT+ people, women, immigrants, etc.

CALLING THEM OUT ON WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS NOT DEMONIZING OR SCAPGOATING THE GOP. Jesus Christ, you are delusional.

[quote]Hispanics, along with other immigrant groups from Asia and Africa, tend to be more religious and conservative compared to white people in the Democratic party, and the battles over abortion, trans, and even gay rights are a turn off to them, and they feel very strongly about legal vs illegal immigration

So basically, they're ignorant bigots, and their ignorant bigotry is stronger than their desire to live in a democracy or even protect themselves from violent white supremacy that will come for them if the GOP wins? So they immigrate, and then want to pull the ladder up behind them?

Jesus Christ. WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE?

R122 John is of Columbian ethnicity. And is a very white Columbian as well. We can get into a whole discussion on that if you'd like. What it means in the Columbian culture to be light skinned. Columbians Very different from Mexican Americans. As in tell me the last time he piked fruit for 16hours, or knew anyone who did.

[quote]Why the fuck would any rational person give credence to someone who uses hyperbole and exaggeration (genocide??? seriously???)

R64, none of that was hyperbole or exaggeration. They were direct words from REPUBLICANS THEMSELVES, many who are calling for shooting/killing/eliminating LGBT people.

FUCKING WAKE UP YOU IGNORANT ASS. THEY'RE TELLING YOU WHO THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY WANT, AND YOU'RE STILL DEFENDING THEM EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE ON THEIR LIST.

[quote]In any universe, they're miles better than you, fool. They don't want or need the things you THINK they do. Your assumptions about Latinos being victims and "voting against their own interests" are dead wrong.

Bullshit R70. They want/need healthcare, a safe/clean environment, affordable housing and goods, living wages, education, safe streets, and to be protected from violent white supremacist thugs.

Yet they're voting against all that. So yeah, they ARE voting against their own interests. In so many ways it's hard to even imagine how they can justify/rationalize it to themselves.

[quote]What awful things will happen to Latinos if they vote repub?

That you even have to ask this question shows you're not paying attention, idiot.

What do you think will happen to Latinos who vote for violent White Supremacist extremists who insist English is the only real language, and European White is the only valid skin color, and who don't give a damn about healthcare, the environment, social security or social safety nets that we ALL rely on eventually, safe food & drugs, clean air & water, infrastructure investment, etc.

[quote]I've mentioned this before here, but the guys who recently did my roof and siding (all Mexican-Americans, first or second gen) LOVE Trump. He's an admirable macho Strong Man in their eyes.

Then they're fucking morons.

R127 Because I personally do not want to be lumped in with trans. I'm not in denial. I am a man who is attracted to other men. I am NOT a woman in a man's body. &R128 if you're not Hispanic, shut your piehole. You have no right to speak for them.

[quote]Latinos don't want to vote for a Party that prioritizes Blacks over everyone else. Neither do whites.

Democrats do not prioritize Blacks over everyone else. They simply insist that Black people, Latinos, LGBT+ people, etc., get a seat at the table, and that they should be heard on par with any straight white man. The fact that this offends so many is very telling about just how bigoted and selfish others can be.

Democrats are not Socialists and are not Communists, and anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot.

Republicans ARE fascist authoritarians, and ARE straight white male Christian supremacists, and anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot.

They absolutely do prioritize blacks. Look at Chicago where they kowtowed you black demands over the very real demographic shift to Latinos.

This is verifiable demography in one of the bluest cities in the nation. They gerrymandered to entrench black political power at the expense of Latinos.

And for the record, Latinos were NOT happy about it. Even the openly socialist members of the city council.

Texas AG Ken Paxton who has committed numerous crimes in office, is under indictment for securities fraud, under FBI investigation for bribery and abuse of power, who got his wife elected to the Texas Lege to try to overturn a law he has been indicted under for 8 years and forced a donor, an Austin real estate developer, to hire his mistress, who has received 100s of thousands in donations from the gun lobby.....spoke yesterday about Uvalde.

"If I talked to the parents in Uvalde, I'd tell them that God always has a plan. Life is very short in any case."

If that doesn't flip Latinos back to the Dems, I don't know what will.

Turnout was like 7%, she lost a majority of Hispanics and she only serves till the November election at which time it'll revert to the Dems.

[quote]What do you think will happen to Latinos who vote for violent White Supremacist extremists who insist English is the only real language, and European White is the only valid skin color, and who don't give a damn about healthcare, the environment, social security or social safety nets that we ALL rely on eventually, safe food & drugs, clean air & water, infrastructure investment, etc.

Mary! None of that will happen, none of that IS happening....except in your deluded mind confused and befuddled by leftist propaganda.

[quote] The problem is always blacks. Mexican society doesn’t have Blatinos the way Caribbeans (read: Puerto Ricans) do. Blacks don’t like Latinos whereas you don’t see the same for whites.

The University of Virginia took the 2010 census data and made a series of maps showing the racial distribution inside various cities. In almost every city shown you saw the same thing. White areas and black areas gradually merged and blended into each other. White areas and Hispanic areas did the same. However Black areas and Hispanic areas had sharp well defined borders between each other with very little overlap.

These finding got absolutely no discussion in the media of course.

People vote their own interests.

People don’t vote what we think are their interests.

A population of extremely socially conservative and religious people are voting Republican? Color me shocked!

[quote]Now it's LatinE. Latinx was rejected so they're inventing more words no one wants.

Latine sounds French

R142, it's also uncomfortably close to "latrine."

What is the obsession with imposing genderlessness onto a language that has gender intrinsically embedded in it? Is this really such a pressing issue? Do the people pushing it believe it's a winning tactic?

It hardly seems to show the cultural sensitivity one would expect from academicians who constantly complain of colonialism. What could be more paternalistic, more imperialistic, than telling someone that their native language is wrong, and we, non-native speakers, will "fix" it?

So many questions.

Gendered language is very European. Of course Americans are unsophisticated and act like there’s something offensive about it.

So parochial.

r143 what you wrote is exactly what many Latinos/Hispanics think about the word Latinx. They don't like it for those reasons.

^Tell it to that dope, AOC. She can't even speak without sounding like a high school mean girl. "Like" this and "blah, blah, blah" that. When will she go back to her true calling --bartending?

Here’s my take: I’m not worried about the primaries. Only the most rabid partisans show up for them unless there is a local election Or tax issue on the ballots.

But every goddamn sane person in this country had better drag their asses to the polls in November.

[quote] But every goddamn sane person in this country had better drag their asses to the polls in November.

If that's the case, then the Democrats will really be in trouble.

Texas and Florida Democrats have been relatively conservative all along. Bush became Governor because of strong Latin support. Southern and rural Latinos lean conservative. Many are devout evangelicals now

[quote]Gendered language is very European. Of course Americans are unsophisticated and act like there’s something offensive about it.

English is a European language, of course.

I meant “ Texas and Florida Latinos have been relatively conservative all along. ”

[quote]People vote their own interests.

I think we have AMPLE evidence that this is not true. Strange that you'd assert this anyway, in spite of all the available evidence.

[quote]Many are devout evangelicals now

You mean brainwashed into being stupid self-loathing fascists?

[quote]Latinos are retards. Defund the police. Pregnant people not women.

Did you masturbate while typing those GOP talking points, Chad?

[quote]Mary! None of that will happen, none of that IS happening....except in your deluded mind confused and befuddled by leftist propaganda.

The denial is strong in R138... denying all the evidence right before your eyes. From the words of Republicans themselves. ALL of that is happening, or will happen if the GOP gets control again. And they're making it VERY clear that if they get control again, that's the end of free & fair elections, they will do ANYTHING to retain power.

Maybe pay some fucking attention and turn off FOX News or whatever propaganda crap you're polluting your brain with.

What is a woman, R155? Bet you can't tell me. Even though the scientific EVIDENCE is right before your eyes.

R150 I assume you only speak English. All Romance languages, etc. assign genders to nouns. What is odd about some Anglophone assigning an 'x' to Latino/a is that the x isn't pronounced in Spanish. Not only do nouns have genders, but you have to accord the noun's gender with adjectives, past participles, etc. in the sentence. LA porte bleuE est ferméE.

The Quinnipiac poll which came out 2 days ago has Beto leading Abbott by 9 pts with Hispanics. Beto defeated Cruz (despite his Spanish last name -usually an automatic check from Texas Latinos) by 40 pts. And Abbott disregard of the Uvalde parents is going to push Beto's numbers higher.

Could somebody tell all the dumb GOP trolls on twitter, that Texas Hispanics don't think Beto is Hispanic because of his nickname. Everybody in Texas knows who Beto is now. And they know he's a border Anglo who speaks Spanish and represented El Paso for years.

R152 the problem is that what they perceive to be in their interests and what you or others might think should be in their interests, are often very different.

Ya know, it’s pretty offensive and arrogant to tell others they aren’t voting in their interest. As a Latin coworker says, my values, religious beliefs, and morals are my “interest;” “I don’t vote based on selfish financial considerations.”

Dim bulb R152 just doesn't get it. Never will. The left can only see POC as victims. Like children who need to be coddled and protected. Being infantilized in this way is highly offensive to Latinos.

[quote] Being infantilized in this way is highly offensive to Latinos.

I think it is highly offensive to people in most minority groups which is why people shouldn’t be shocked when they encounter a black, Hispanic, gay, etc… Republican. They just got tired of being treated like children.

[quote] "If I talked to the parents in Uvalde, I'd tell them that God always has a plan. Life is very short in any case.” If that doesn't flip Latinos back to the Dems, I don't know what will.

For non-Christians: these are pretty standard words of comfort among Christians for someone experiencing trauma. It can be argued about, the same as any other particular beliefs, but it’s not an unusual statement.

R157, you're not getting it. the "x" isn't the letter x, it's a place-holder to signify "replace with either o or a as appropriate". It's to be used for WRITTEN communication only. It's not for speaking or pronouncing. That's where it all went wrong.

[quote]Ya know, it’s pretty offensive and arrogant to tell others they aren’t voting in their interest.

No, it's just ignorant to BLATANTLY not vote in your own interests. Latino people who are voting Republican are BY DEFINITION not voting in their best interests. Because Republicans HATE Latinos, and want to eradicate them, keep them down, prevent them from voting, take away their healthcare, not let them move into their neighborhoods, want to destroy their schools, and make any and all prejudice against them not just legal, but legally mandatory.

Same goes for Black people voting Republican (the vast majority have figured that out, over 90%), and for LGBT+ people (between 70-90% of them have figured it out). That Latinos are going the WRONG DIRECTION is a problem, and it's a problem in and of the Latino community, and it's something they'd better wake up to, figure out, and solve soon. The problem is NOT Democrats.

[quote]I think it is highly offensive to people in most minority groups which is why people shouldn’t be shocked when they encounter a black, Hispanic, gay, etc… Republican. They just got tired of being treated like children.

This is bullshit of course. Utter nonsense.

A black person voting for a White Supremacist isn't "tired of being treated like a child" (something that isn't even actually happening). They're just a self-loathing selfish clueless moron and an utter piece of shit human being. Minorities can be selfish pieces of shit without a clue too you know, it's not like White People have a monopoly on that.

That banner sums up everything that's wrong with the GoP.

A smug candidate with mentions of "God" and "Family". The not so subtle implication being that if you don't have a religion or a family of your own, you're trash and the enemy.

They're such sanctimonious cunts.

I feel better now. :)

[quote]What is a woman, [R155]? Bet you can't tell me. Even though the scientific EVIDENCE is right before your eyes.

Okay, dumbass. Define it. Go ahead.

A person with breasts? Some men develop them/have them.

A person who lactates? Some men lactate at puberty, it's normal and natural.

Someone with a uterus? Not all women have them. Many older women have them removed. Are they not women anymore?

Someone with two X chromosomes? Some perfectly (and stunningly) beautiful women are born with XY chromosomes. Some people have XXY, some have XYY.

You see everything so simplistically. So simple-minded. Sex and gender are just not the strict binary you always thought they were and still think they are... they never were. The VAST MAJORITY do slot easily in to the two categories you want to be the only categories, but not everyone does. And that's just factual, scientific reality. Your tiny narrow mind just can't handle it, can't grasp it, so it makes you irrationally angry.

It's a stupid question to start with, to demand someone "define a woman", as if all women can be boiled down to a single sentence or property. I know you thought you were nailing down the winning argument there, but all you were doing is exposing yourself as a bigoted, sexist cunt.

A woman is an adult human female, the sex that produces the gamete called an ovum.

Fear of Communism?! Do these Latinos live in 1962?? Not even Russia is Communist anymore!

FTLs.

r170, have you ever read anything about the history of Latin America in the past 50 years?

R166 watch any interview with almost any black, gay, or Latino conservative/Republican and every single one of them will give a variation of that being why they left the “Democratic plantation*” that is built around them feeling infantilised or condescended.

*their terminology

R172: so they're literally crawling into bed with card-carrying Klansmen & Nazis because their feefees got hurt?

That totally tracks.

My points of reference are all Texas so this may not be applicable to Latinos in other parts of the US. In Texas, Mexicans as they were known in the bad old days (though they are now proud to be Mexican-Americans), were lower on the social order than black people were. They suffered for generations and generations from the most abject prejudice, as much as black people in Texas, but without any real recognition for what they had suffered. A Mexican-American from Texas was killed during WWII and was a much-decorated soldier. When his body was flown home to his town in Texas, he was refused burial in the town's cemetery. LBJ had his body flown to DC and he was buried in Arlington.

It's hard to ascertain how much prejudice they've suffered for generations and what effect this has had on their psyches. They also are invariably either Catholic or evangelicals and even if Democrats offer them more, they are frequently one issue - abortion - voters. They aren't at all at obvious base for the left unlike African-Americans.

[quote]Because Republicans HATE Latinos, and want to eradicate them, keep them down, prevent them from voting, take away their healthcare, not let them move into their neighborhoods, want to destroy their schools, and make any and all prejudice against them not just legal, but legally mandatory.

Receipts? No one "hates" Latinos, idiot. Stop with the histrionics and outright lies.

Oh snap, R169. LOL. Poor R168 wasted a lot of energy on that tedious word salad. And you knocked him out cold with one sentence. Bravo

[quote]so they're literally crawling into bed with card-carrying Klansmen & Nazis

Go back to tiktok you shrieking loon.

[quote]A woman is an adult human female, the sex that produces the gamete called an ovum.

So a lot of people that are women don't match your simplistic categorization. Barren women aren't women according to you? Women who have had hysterectomies aren't women?

[quote] So a lot of people that are women don't match your simplistic categorization. Barren women aren't women according to you? Women who have had hysterectomies aren't women?

That is a tortured argument. People who do not believe you can change your sex through hormones or surgery, would say that a woman who has had a hysterectomy is still a woman. Just because she had parts removed would not change that. While barren women may be missing certain things or they are faulty, their bodies are still born anatomically female. No one makes the argument that they aren't female other than trans people in order to try and prop themselves up, saying if you include "those women" you have to include transwomen .

The last half of the sentence wasn't even necessary. A woman is simply "an adult human female". MtF trannies can't call themselves "female" because that term only refers to bio girls and women.

I'm still wondering what the problem is with the "adult human female" answer to that question! I really don't want to conclude that it's been deemed off-limits because people like Matt Walsh or Posie Parker use the term, because I think it's a really, [italic]really[/italic] bad idea to let your enemies control what you will or will not say, but I can come up with no other possible reason.

Did you know that as you type in that phrase in Google or YouTube, no suggestions at all come up? That's not by accident.

R179, yeah, TRAs are always trying to muddy the water. They do the same thing with intersex people.

[quote]I'm still wondering what the problem is with the "adult human female" answer to that question!

Because it's circular. What's a woman? A female. What's a female? A woman. Around and around you go. It's a circular definition, or a non-definition.

But of course none of your simpletons even noticed that.

The simpletons are the people who think a man can become a woman.

[quote] Because it's circular. What's a woman? A female. What's a female? A woman. Around and around you go. It's a circular definition, or a non-definition.

XX and XY chromosomes nicely clarify the issue. As does human anatomy.

[quote]Because it's circular.

And the "anyone who identifies as a woman" response to the "what is a woman" question isn't??

I identify as Brad Pitt though 20 years younger.

No it isn't circular at all, R184. Female and Male refer to biological sex, not what you "feel like" on any given day.

What is circular (and insane) is for a biological male to insist he is 100% certain he is a "woman" when he can't even define what one is.