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Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Furious at Jubilee Treatment - Want an Apology!

On the "Today" show (Australia), a royal expert reporter said H&M left in a huff before the Jubilee celebrations were over because they were so angry over their treatment. No meeting at all with William and Catherine - only 15 minutes with the Queen?

Also the "Magnificent Seven" are going to be seen more out and about: Charles and Camilla appeared on the British night-time soap Eastenders - and the semifinal of Strictly Come Dancing will be filmed at Buckingham Palace this year.

I guess the Magnificent Seven, as the reporter called them, are Charles, Camilla, William, Catherine, Anne, Edward and Sophie?

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by Anonymousreply 600June 24, 2022 9:04 PM

Here's a link to a thread on "Digital Spy" (message board about British entertainment) about Strictly Come Dancing and the Palace:

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by Anonymousreply 1June 12, 2022 10:44 AM

Wow - so there was no birthday party for Lilibet at all?

stole this link from a Harkle thread that's in the 500s.

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by Anonymousreply 2June 12, 2022 10:49 AM

[quote] the semifinal of Strictly Come Dancing will be filmed at Buckingham Palace this year

Yikes, the monarchy is never going to survive the Queen’s death if this is the strategic decision making being made.

by Anonymousreply 3June 12, 2022 11:01 AM

R2 No "casual intimate" picnic. No meeting with great-gramma. And no kids because they never made it to England.

by Anonymousreply 4June 12, 2022 11:05 AM

This reporter thinks the issue may be "testosterone fueled" young men (William and Harry) defending their wives?

Huh? How about a Harry being taken in by a grifter and pathological liar, and being led around like the moron he is?

What is the Queen - or rather Charles - going to do? People say Charles is a big old softie. But I don't think Big Willy (with all that testosterone) is? BTW, is William's jaw getting wider than his forehead? Here he is selling newspapers to raise money for the homeless, of all things, on Friday. (meanwhile, Harry's playing polo yesterday)

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by Anonymousreply 5June 12, 2022 11:21 AM

Oh I missed the link with the reporter talking about their testosterone (3 minute video)

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by Anonymousreply 6June 12, 2022 11:23 AM

William’s Big Issue stunt is being mocked all over the UK as transparently for publicity. I think he’s scrambling somewhat for good PR after that colonisers tour went poorly. Between Strictly Come Dancing and Kate’s Christmas piano recital, it seems the restraint and mystery of the monarchy has ceded to cheap reality tv.

by Anonymousreply 7June 12, 2022 11:27 AM

Would any of these PR stunts be happening if the bad boys Andrew and Harry weren't causing such a ruckus?

Andrew's in trouble again over not paying a debt involving a 14 million pound chalet he and Sarah Ferguson bought - or something like that. Yet another mess he's got himself in by being unscrupulous. May have the details wrong - here's a NY Post story about the chalet:

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by Anonymousreply 8June 12, 2022 11:32 AM

Sorry - it's a $22 million dollar chalet - which is considerably more than £14

by Anonymousreply 9June 12, 2022 11:35 AM

F&F.

by Anonymousreply 10June 12, 2022 11:36 AM

R7, he didn’t need to do that. I’m appalled by the Dastardly Sussexes, but embarrassed by the Cambridge worship. All they have to do is keep ignoring the slings and arrows and maintain a dignified silence. Going around like goody-two-shoes is annoying.

by Anonymousreply 11June 12, 2022 11:50 AM

The Big Issue promotion got lots of positive press, with newspapers comparing him to Diana and her work with the homeless

by Anonymousreply 12June 12, 2022 11:56 AM

H&M arrived for the Jubilee with everyone in the BRF knowing that they have a Netflix reality show in progress and an 'explosive' biography from Harry poised at the presses. Who but a pair of entitled morons would expect big smiles and open arms?

by Anonymousreply 13June 12, 2022 12:10 PM

Welcome to the Karma Cafe, Haz and Tungsten! There is no menu. You are served what you deserve!

by Anonymousreply 14June 12, 2022 12:24 PM

Can't believe how silent they are, except for the seriously iffy polo shoots. How soon till Peta or some other group starts protesting Polo. It has been declared more than once animal cruelty. Plus the fact of it being a rich boys sport, bad look for the husband of the caped crusader, SJW.

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by Anonymousreply 15June 12, 2022 12:36 PM

^ hit post button too fast..meant to add:. Meghan, Girl you are slipping! Get Friar Tuck with the big Moobs back under control!!

by Anonymousreply 16June 12, 2022 12:39 PM

FF mentally ill pathetic frau thread

by Anonymousreply 17June 12, 2022 12:39 PM

If Harry wanted to be treated like a long-lost family member, ge shouldn't have staged the reunion at a business event! Because yes, the royal family is a business or "Firm", and the jubilee was their biggest business event in years.

And Harry is an ex-employee of the Firm, and as such, would rightly be kept away from sensitive information and decision-making. If ge wanted to be treated like a family member he should have come to somebody's private birthday, but welk, that wouldn't have gotten him a tenth of this publicity. He made his choices,

by Anonymousreply 18June 12, 2022 12:55 PM

I do think the Sussex debacle has inspired the family to up their game. I personally wouldn't want them to go too far, though. I like that regal mystery thing.

by Anonymousreply 19June 12, 2022 12:58 PM

OP, the "Magnificent Seven" moniker reminds me of the "Mighty Joe" label appended to Biden.

It's too much and it doesn't help the situation. They need to retire it.

by Anonymousreply 20June 12, 2022 1:00 PM

The only title Harry the biter of the hand that fed him should have is "Emeritus".

by Anonymousreply 21June 12, 2022 1:06 PM

"They" didn't make that name, one of the red tops did.

by Anonymousreply 22June 12, 2022 1:24 PM

R7 It isn't being mocked all over the UK.

It was in fact rather nicely received.

Do provide us with solid proof of "all over the UK, Pet, dear. You know, papers all over England, Scotland, Wales, and NI?

Yes, we recognise your m.o.

by Anonymousreply 23June 12, 2022 1:30 PM

[quote]Want an Apology!

That doesn't appear to be true, but I assume we'll be hearing "These grifter evil monsters DEMANDED the Queen APOLOGIZE to them!" for a few years, thanks to this thread.

by Anonymousreply 24June 12, 2022 1:33 PM

I am just waiting for Harry to finally leave Megan, at which point she will go full Amber Heard/Angelina Jolie/Heather Mills McCartney and accuse him of domestic violence and racism. Wait for it.

by Anonymousreply 25June 12, 2022 1:41 PM

I think it’s more likely for there to be a divorce between the public and the royal family than a divorce between Harry and Meghan. They are codependent.

by Anonymousreply 26June 12, 2022 1:43 PM

The apology demand is being reported in the Mirror, Daily Mail, The Sun, The NY Post, GBNews, Radar Online, yahoo, news.com.au, Fox Business youtube, 9 News Australia, daily.co.star.uk, thenewdaily.com.au, heraldsun.com.au, meaww.com, boomplay.com, couriermail.com.au, theovertimer.com, flipboard.com, epicstream.com, and many more - predating this thread by as much as three days. So I hardly think this little DL thread matters.

by Anonymousreply 27June 12, 2022 1:48 PM

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by Anonymousreply 28June 12, 2022 1:52 PM

It seems like Harry and Meghan (following the Uvalde debacle) are finally doing the right thing and keeping their heads down and their mouths shut. All the squawking by “royal experts” is just the self-appointed experts getting desperate out of fear that their meal tickets finally wised up.

They went to the Jubilee. They dressed appropriately. They didn’t complain about their security or draw attention to it in any way (slight miscalculation was the car waving, but no big deal). They provided an opportunity for family members to meet the kids. And they left.

Somebody must have chained Meghan to a radiator which her phone out of reach.

The polo thing is odd. On the one hand, it shows they aren’t cowed or in hiding. OTOH, it’s so easy to criticize. But the timing was great- the juxtaposition with Will’s stupid (and out of character) stunt is perfect. Although I think that was just coincidence.

So now the rags are panicking and trying to stir shit up.

by Anonymousreply 29June 12, 2022 2:05 PM

In a future divorce Meghan is going to make Angie/Heather/Amber look sweet and demure.

by Anonymousreply 30June 12, 2022 2:08 PM

I think they’ve discarded the SJW/equity/environmentalist mask.

They’re embracing the elitist lifestyle, now. The .00001% playing polo and having a brown man kneel at his feet to adjust Harry’s knee pads, making appearances without the kids because they have full time nannies, riding ebikes surrounded by bodyguards in his wealthy celebrity enclave, taking a $250,000 private jet trip to royal digs.

At least they’re not lecturing us anymore. They’ve gone full Kardashian.

by Anonymousreply 31June 12, 2022 2:27 PM

But what about his job as the CEO or whatever of "Travelyst" which is based on ecologically-sound travel?

by Anonymousreply 32June 12, 2022 2:29 PM

Didn't Kris Jenner back out of a collaboration with Chrissy Teigen for a cleaning product or some such thing? Maybe Meghan will step into the Chrissy role with Kris and the cleaning products?

by Anonymousreply 33June 12, 2022 2:32 PM

Amway! Kris and Meghan can sell Amway!!

by Anonymousreply 34June 12, 2022 2:38 PM

R32, they were still traveling by private jet and SUV motorcade even when he was doing that.

by Anonymousreply 35June 12, 2022 2:42 PM

Travalyst is a scam. Can anyone explain in one sentence what it is and how it works? What’s the product?

by Anonymousreply 36June 12, 2022 2:43 PM

They've been demanding apologies for over two years and have gotten exactly nothing, at least not publicly. Why don't they just move on and live their lives? Oh, right, they need the RF to legitimize them for whatever endeavors they want to undertake.

by Anonymousreply 37June 12, 2022 2:44 PM

My only real disagreement with r29's assessment is that I believe that gossip fans, haters, and tabloids have been making up Harry and Meghan news for quite some time now. If you look into any of the more recent stories about them, you'll find it's always some speculation, a source, or a royal watcher making a claim, with very little to back it up.

by Anonymousreply 38June 12, 2022 2:45 PM

R29 I still don't believe they ever brought the kids.

by Anonymousreply 39June 12, 2022 2:50 PM

Riiiight R29, the Harkles were angelic, except for the recording devices, the lateness and refusal to travel with the other non-working royals, the made-up bday party and Queen meeting, and the constant PR garbage. Other than that they were fine.

by Anonymousreply 40June 12, 2022 2:50 PM

R40, don’t forget rolling down the window of their armored car for her closeup.

by Anonymousreply 41June 12, 2022 2:58 PM

Anyone who describes themselves as a "royal expert" should be executed on the spot.

by Anonymousreply 42June 12, 2022 3:12 PM

But...they have weekly Zoom calls with William and The Queen!

by Anonymousreply 43June 12, 2022 3:18 PM

Yes, do we have any evidence at all that the kids made it to the UK?

by Anonymousreply 44June 12, 2022 3:22 PM

R29 nailed it.

This tabloid bullshit, stirring the por because they know that only very rarely will the Palace bother to confirm or deny.

They cite insiders sources and know they'll never have to prove any of it.

Wtf that close to the Queen would call up the tabs to blab about how ling she spent in a private meeting?!

That apology business is out of the Gayle King Team Meghan playbook it's been around for ages.

It's a ridiculous story, especially given that it's the Harkles who had a couple of PR disasters, whose polls suck in the UK, and have about the same chance of Britain's Head of State crawling on her aged knees to the two morons, as I do of marrying Prince George.

Really, at this point, Muriel should step in and either create a sub stack DL for these endless royal threads or start ruthlessly deleting.

God only knows what will happen when something worth discussing comes along, like the Bower book and the Queen's death.

by Anonymousreply 45June 12, 2022 3:27 PM

[quote]I still don't believe they ever brought the kids.

You believe the stories about the Queen refusing a photo with the baby are lies, then?

by Anonymousreply 46June 12, 2022 3:31 PM

"appalling"

by Anonymousreply 47June 12, 2022 3:33 PM

R29 William's "stunt" was widely appreciated and warmly received.

Harry and Meghan didn't keep their heads down, they flounced out of other engagements to which they were invited because they didn't like their places in it.

They deliberately arrived 15 minutes late to the Thanksgiving Service so that they could miss the bus carrying the Lesser Royals and arrive solo in a security car and look more important, and also to make it look like they were getting a "special" "solo" procession down the aisle. And then Harry made an angry fuss when he realised where his seat was: middle of the second aisle behind the Kents, Gloucesters, and Wessexes.

Of course, they paid heavily for their late arrival stunt, which exposed them to booing from the crowd. When they left the cathedral, they tried to get themselves cover by inviting the Tindalls to exit with them. The Tindalls refused, and the boos this time were even more audible.

They refused to go to the Guildhall reception because they were assigned a room further back, or the Party at the Palace and the pageant, because they were being seated far from the Cambridges.

Humble? Neither of them have a humble bone in their two bodies.

Nice try at rewriting reality, though.

by Anonymousreply 48June 12, 2022 4:36 PM

The conversation about the photo with the Queen was had by their Liaison before the trip. Trust that nothing was left to casual convo during the JW.

by Anonymousreply 49June 12, 2022 4:41 PM

What's the scoop on the guy sitting behind them at the church. Johnny something... Was he keeping an eye on them for Chuck?

by Anonymousreply 50June 12, 2022 4:42 PM

Recollections may vary. We see the treatment of the Sussexes at the Jubilee as exceptional and impeccable.

by Anonymousreply 51June 12, 2022 4:46 PM

Ah... so they were told there would be no photograph with the Queen before they left California - so why bring the kids? But it would look mean-spirited so they decide to pretend they brought them? (trusting the airplane people etc - or telling them the kids were traveling separately?)

And they figured they'd get flack for ignoring her birthday so they claim a party and order a cake (and maybe they'll claim they were stood up and no one came - or they just stay quiet about who was there and we all accept that no one would post private party pix)

So... just for an excuse to get a picture of Lilibet out, they tell the guy to post some old stuff from another party with another child months or years ago when Meghan was thinner - and if you carefully consider it, he's not saying it's from Lilibet's party - wait, actually he is implying it's her party and he puts Lilibet's picture in the collection....

This is LUDICROUS.

by Anonymousreply 52June 12, 2022 5:00 PM

Somebody on IG pointed out the photographer who took the photo of Lillibucks also put up a photo of himself and his kids sitting on a garden loveseat with black and white pillows on it. Meghan had the same loveseat at her house in Toronto. Probably in Montecito now so the pic was taken there not in the UK.

by Anonymousreply 53June 12, 2022 5:02 PM

[quote] You believe the stories about the Queen refusing a photo with the baby are lies, then?

R46 So much of what has been printed is nothing more than rank speculation and PR spin. The entire first birthday party story and the cake is a crock/ruse.

by Anonymousreply 54June 12, 2022 5:13 PM

Why weren't James Corden's kids at this phantom birthday party? Aren't they besties now as per Sunshine Sachs directive? What about peepaw David Foster who is like a father to Halfwit Harry, doesn't he have an end of life baby with that American Idol cast off? Serena's daughter? Gayle King's new grandbaby? What about that Canadian woman with the demon looking twin boys and girl who were in the wedding? Isn't one of her kids Meg's godchild? Why weren't they there or at a Monteshitto belated birthday party?

I'm not convinced Haz and Meg are thriving now that they are not under the oppression of the BRF. I think they are just surviving.

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by Anonymousreply 56June 12, 2022 5:34 PM

[quote] So... just for an excuse to get a picture of Lilibet out, they tell the guy to post some old stuff from another party with another child months or years ago when Meghan was thinner - and if you carefully consider it, he's not saying it's from Lilibet's party - wait, actually he is implying it's her party and he puts Lilibet's picture in the collection....

This is LUDICROUS.

It is, in fact, of a piece with their behavior from the start ("you know, we were married three days before the church wedding in our back garden by the Archbishop?")

by Anonymousreply 57June 12, 2022 5:40 PM

Markle's such an inept liar. Don't Sunshine Sachs realize she is fucking up their reputation with all her gratuitous, easily discounted lies?

by Anonymousreply 58June 12, 2022 5:56 PM

Meghan even managed to merch the ring she was wearing when she was shushing the kids during Trooping the Colour.

by Anonymousreply 59June 12, 2022 6:01 PM

But they didn't keep their heads down.

She did the window stunt shushing the Tindall/Phillips kids to get her mug out there and supposedly to merch some jewelry she was wearing. I bet Anne was not pleased to have her grandchildren used in her little scheme.

They didn't keep their heads down at the St. Paul's service being they arrived late so they could make a grand entrance. Then they made everyone get up to let them into their seats like some cheap movie theater matinee shuffling act at the local mall.

They can not be trusted in the slightest. They will turn any act of goodwill into a "look at me" opportunity.

by Anonymousreply 60June 12, 2022 6:03 PM

[quote]They didn't keep their heads down. She did the window stunt shushing the Tindall/Phillips kids to get her mug out there and supposedly to merch some jewelry she was wearing. I bet Anne was not pleased to have her grandchildren used in her little scheme.

One can't hope for miracles, so in the case of the Sussexes this is probably them trying their abolsute hardest. It's like the special olympics, them trying their hardest will be different than a traditional olympian.

by Anonymousreply 61June 12, 2022 6:13 PM

The idea that Megan moved her crappy outdoor loveseat from Toronto to England and then to Montecito is also ludicrous. Sure, they might throw in an extra photo from another event to sort of round out the impression they want to make, but they didn’t fake bringing the kids to the Uk.

by Anonymousreply 62June 12, 2022 6:19 PM

[quote] The idea that Megan moved her crappy outdoor loveseat from Toronto to England and then to Montecito is also ludicrous.

She didn't. If you read the replies to the tweet and the detailed analysis, it's not the same loveseat. I could see Meghan buying a nicer version for Montecito if she liked the print, but side by sides are shown and no, it's not the same. I do how granular the twitter detectives get and they do present things I wouldn't even think to consider.

by Anonymousreply 63June 12, 2022 6:26 PM

They're researching backyard flowers and receiving signs that Harry is filing for divorce in July.

by Anonymousreply 64June 12, 2022 6:35 PM

They had an interesting take that the B&W photo is not Lilibet and that it looks like Meghan's younger body was photoshopped on, but I am selective with my conspiracy theories and I'm taking a pass on this one.

by Anonymousreply 65June 12, 2022 6:37 PM

R46 I believe the Queen would be appalled at the idea to be part of a Netflix documentary, but I don't believe she would refuse to meet her Great-Grandchildren.

by Anonymousreply 66June 12, 2022 6:38 PM

Someone noted how Lilibet's bangs are short in the B&W photo, then much longer in the first birthday color photo.

by Anonymousreply 67June 12, 2022 6:39 PM

What if they had planned to bring the children - then found out they would not be allowed to bring any cameras or photographers into the room with the Queen - then had a strop and suddenly decided to leave the kids at home just to get revenge for being told no.

Then they haphazardly try to get away with everyone thinking the DID bring the kids, did have the birthday party, etc., because they'd look like shitheads if they refused to let the Queen see her great-grandchildren, one of which she's never seen before, and heaven forbid anyone think they were petty.

by Anonymousreply 68June 12, 2022 6:43 PM

What she refused was being photographed by Harry and Meghan's photographer.

by Anonymousreply 69June 12, 2022 6:44 PM

How do we know that? Any photo could be used and abused by Netflix or whatever, regardless of the quality of the picture.

by Anonymousreply 70June 12, 2022 6:46 PM

[quote] Then they made everyone get up to let them into their seats like some cheap movie theater matinee shuffling act at the local mall.

Yes, arriving late to a movie theater is what it looked like. I wish they showed the part where Bea & Eugenie, etc., had to stand up, file out, then file back in.

Arriving late emphasized the shitty seats.

by Anonymousreply 71June 12, 2022 6:53 PM

Apparently the Queen owns any photos that are taken with her out of the public sphere. So the Markles were screwed and screwed Netflix.

by Anonymousreply 72June 12, 2022 6:54 PM

R71 Start at the 9:30 mark. The Yorks arrive in a van thirty seconds before the Harkles, who arrive in a Range Rover. To me, it seems likes the Harkles deliberately dragged out their greetings to the clergy so that the gap widened with the Yorks. This way, they got their little catwalk moment.

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by Anonymousreply 73June 12, 2022 7:32 PM

[quote]They deliberately arrived 15 minutes late to the Thanksgiving Service so that they could miss the bus carrying the Lesser Royals and arrive solo in a security car and look more important, and also to make it look like they were getting a "special" "solo" procession down the aisle.

Neil Sean in the 'very heart of London' reports today that the separate car for the Sussex's was always the plan.

The weirdness at the seats I think was just timing through the receiving line; but who know, maybe the Harkles plan was to ask the cousins all to push down so they could have the aisle seats ... but then Uncle Edward dropped the hammer and the Harkles had to sit according to the seating chart.

by Anonymousreply 74June 12, 2022 9:29 PM

"Travalyst is a scam... What’s the product?"

Mental Health

by Anonymousreply 75June 12, 2022 9:46 PM

I don't know how reliable this guy is, and he himself says "allegedly" all the time - but Neil Sean did a short video today and said they met the Queen for 12 minutes. And that it was Harry's insistence that they leave to go home early and that Meghan tried to talk him out of it. Neil was implying that Harry is used to getting his way and is very demanding - so what can Meghan do? From the video:

"Whatever he says, clearly, goes, so for her, and the children, allegedly, they, you know, had to get on a plane at Farmborough and go back to California because Prince Harry felt 'what's the point of being around here. Nobody wants to meet us. Nobody wants to see us. We don't have a starring role in this pageant..."

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by Anonymousreply 76June 12, 2022 11:52 PM

I wonder if Neil's "allegedly" after mentioning the children means that he's wondering if the children were with them?

by Anonymousreply 77June 12, 2022 11:54 PM

Like most of the U.S., most of my DNA comes from the UK. I guess that's why there is a weird kinship with these people.

by Anonymousreply 78June 13, 2022 12:00 AM

We are a former British colony. And having the same language is a big factor.

I guess there are quite a few "royal families" around - Japan, Netherlands, Spain, ... uh, most of them? Or is it the exception rather than the rule. I'd look it up but I don't feel like looking up 170 countries or whatever on Wikipedia - any brilliant historians on DL who just know off-hand?

Or maybe Europeans just know these things?

by Anonymousreply 79June 13, 2022 12:06 AM

Royal families in Europe in The Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, Monaco, Spain, Denmark, Sweden, Norway,

There's a great show called Borgen on Netflix about a woman who becomes PM of Denmark. There's a lot about her meetings with the Queen.

by Anonymousreply 80June 13, 2022 12:09 AM

Neil Sean's videos seem like mostly click-bait and full of speculation.

by Anonymousreply 81June 13, 2022 12:14 AM

I keep hearing over and over that the BRF brings in so much money in tourism, so they pay for themselves. Yet, London is neck and neck with Paris when it comes to tourists and France, uh, took care of their monarchy issue.

"Paris is one of the most popular tourist destinations in the world, with over 30 million foreign visitors per year. As the paragon of style, Paris is one of the most glamorous cities in the world."

So they seem to be muddling through ok. I think NYC, Miami, Hollywood, Honolulu, etc., do alright, as well, with no kings or queen in sight.

by Anonymousreply 82June 13, 2022 12:15 AM

Yeah but R82, so much of the historical appeal of France is about its ill-fated monarchy. Versailles, anyone?

by Anonymousreply 83June 13, 2022 12:19 AM

But Britain would still have the palaces and castles, the Tower, the Crown Jewels, etc., like France's Versailles - who gets to see the monarch in person when they visit as a tourist anyway? So wouldn't they do just as well with the trappings without the personages - like France does?

by Anonymousreply 84June 13, 2022 12:21 AM

So did The Duchess of Netflix calligraphy a thank you note to Charles for the swing and scooter?

by Anonymousreply 85June 13, 2022 12:25 AM

[quote] Neil Sean's videos seem like mostly click-bait and full of speculation.

He keeps flashing photos of himself with celebrities like Tony Bennett or Shirley Bassey or whomever, trying to give himself cred I guess.

One thing I've picked up on is that he's a right-winger. Digs about the "woke culture" frequently creep in.

Same for "River" (who said he would have voted for Trump over Biden and thought the American left was looney - the British left, as well). And my god, Lady C is a Putin fan and never met a despot she didn't adore (she's probably unwilling to spew her pro-Putin views at the moment, of course). She goes on and on about how we need more deference to our betters, to make society work. (River's the same)

Good lord why am I watching these weirdos? -- it's a hole I fell in, like poor Alice following a white rabbit.

by Anonymousreply 86June 13, 2022 12:35 AM

A modern living Monarchy in action is fabulous entertainment.

by Anonymousreply 87June 13, 2022 12:35 AM

The post at r76 is spot on. Harry is an angry, spoiled man who is used to getting his way. It’s funny that people attribute a lot of the failures of the Sussexes to Meghan Markle, whereas Harry is the one who is calling the shots. He has the money, he has the influence, he’s what Netflix and Spotify are paying for. And he’s the one who is sabotaging the Sussexes’ ability to make money on their own through his own actions of burning it all to the ground.

Say what you want about MM, but she knows that she’s pretty much a non-entity without Harry. And she doesn’t nearly have the influence over Harry that people think she does.

by Anonymousreply 88June 13, 2022 12:37 AM

[R84] I don’t know. I would love for France to bring back a monarchy

by Anonymousreply 89June 13, 2022 12:50 AM

Gosh, imagine a revitalized French Monarchy!!!! It would be something else, that's for sure. So unique in its own way; so distinct from the British Monarchy.

by Anonymousreply 90June 13, 2022 12:55 AM

Does anyone where Meg's "shush" ring is on sale?

by Anonymousreply 91June 13, 2022 1:06 AM

She wrote him a lovely thank you note on a banana R85.

by Anonymousreply 92June 13, 2022 1:15 AM

r91 I saw the Instragram ad for it but they got a lot of flack for it so it got taken down

by Anonymousreply 93June 13, 2022 1:21 AM

The palace aides arranged the seating chart and it was approved by the queen. The primary reason that Harry and Markle had to sit inside the the second row was for the exit procession. The palace did not want Harry and Markle anywhere near Charles and William for fear of getting the money shot of the three of the photographed together.

Charles led the way on the exit out. William followed, etc., etc. Beatrice and her husband plus Eugenie and her husband exited the second row first leaving Harry and Markle quite a distance from Charles, William, Kate, etc.

The terms "senior royals" of "working royals" are new. The royals follow "orders of precedence," and that's generally how they file in and out of an event. However, the palace came up with "senior royals" and "working royals" to stick it to Harry and Markle. Bea and Eugenie even filed out before the Markles because Bea and Eug still live in London, are blood princesses and are still part of the royal family. Harry and Markle left the family, and so the palace showed them exactly where they belong--at the end of the line so that no photo opportunities were possible.

by Anonymousreply 94June 13, 2022 1:24 AM

Yes why would a “royal reporter” make negative claims about Meghan unless they were indubitably true?

by Anonymousreply 95June 13, 2022 1:25 AM

I think they should revive the French monarchy, the English should reassert their claims to it, and Elizabeth should fly to London next year at 97 to mount the French throne.

by Anonymousreply 96June 13, 2022 1:33 AM

R94, lesser slights had been administered to Harry, but he hadn’t taken the hint. He wasn’t supposed to walk next to William at Philip’s funeral (he struggled to catch up with his brother as they walked out of the church) and one of Diana’s sisters stopped him from talking to William at the unveiling of Diana’s statue. I’m sensing a theme here. William doesn’t easily forgive and forget.

by Anonymousreply 97June 13, 2022 1:35 AM

The French can't be trusted with a monarchy - look what they did to the old one!

by Anonymousreply 98June 13, 2022 1:37 AM

Meet Louis XX.

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by Anonymousreply 99June 13, 2022 1:40 AM

R84 give it up, plenty of people like having a constitutional monarchy. When Trump was President I saw the wisdom of having a separate Head of State who has to remain neutral in politics and can unite the country. Combining both roles in a President - head of govt/head of state is potentially much more dangerous concentrating too much power and influence in a potential authoritarian.

by Anonymousreply 100June 13, 2022 1:56 AM

But the queen isn’t neutral r100. It’s an illusion. She does whatever the PM wants her to do.

by Anonymousreply 101June 13, 2022 1:57 AM

The clothes and jewels worn by tbe French Royal Family would be fantastic. We need more stardust up in here.

by Anonymousreply 102June 13, 2022 2:37 AM

The link at R76 seems like desperate PR put out by Meghan. Laying groundwork for divorce, perhaps?

by Anonymousreply 103June 13, 2022 2:42 AM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 104June 13, 2022 4:17 AM

Nice shot of Harry’s chrome dome R104.

by Anonymousreply 105June 13, 2022 4:22 AM

Interesting R104. I wonder where they would have put Andrew, if the Queen had insisted he was there. I still wonder about what I read -- at Philip's memorial, the Dean was supposed to escort the Queen down the aisle, but at the last minute, Andrew sort of forcefully elbowed him out of the way and so the Queen had to go down the aisle with Andrew, contrary to the plan.

by Anonymousreply 106June 13, 2022 4:48 AM

r91 Enquiring eldergays want to know.

by Anonymousreply 107June 13, 2022 5:31 AM

r99 I would give him a tug.

by Anonymousreply 108June 13, 2022 5:33 AM

[quote]one of Diana’s sisters stopped him from talking to William at the unveiling of Diana’s statue

That's incredibly sad, though. Brothers at an event where their mother was being honored, and one brother had an aunt step in to prevent the other brother from talking to him. If that happened with any family here in the U.S., they would be labeled trashy and dysfunctional, and rightly so. It would be Real Housewives levels of petty.

This is the royal family, though. What are we to make of a man who is going to be king, needing his auntie to step in and save him from talking to his brother? Is he truly unable to keep it professional, even in a public setting, meant to honor his own mother?

On top of all that, I'm expected to take William's side, and consider his behavior not only acceptable but admirable. I'm supposed to hate Harry, for daring to talk to his own brother at an event for their mother, because how dare he?

It's probably useless to type this out. All that will happen is a bunch of angry British ladies, mad because it's a Monday morning and they don't want to go back to work, will start screaming at me that I'm hired PR or Obid Scobie or a "Megaloon."

by Anonymousreply 109June 13, 2022 5:45 AM

Take a valium, R109, and worry about something else.

by Anonymousreply 110June 13, 2022 5:47 AM

R109 doesn't seem to have critical thinking skills.

by Anonymousreply 111June 13, 2022 5:59 AM

His cuntiness, done.

Q

by Anonymousreply 112June 13, 2022 6:09 AM

Imagine if Andrew had attended and been seated next to Harry and Meghan.

by Anonymousreply 113June 13, 2022 6:09 AM

R107 Enough with your lying bullshit. I am in the U.K. and William selling the Big Issue is not getting mocked. You may not like the Royal Family but fuck off with your make believe.

by Anonymousreply 114June 13, 2022 7:59 AM

R7 = dumb American.

by Anonymousreply 115June 13, 2022 8:35 AM

R7 it’s not a PR stunt for himself as a public person. That is his actual job, to promote charitable british events and organisations.

by Anonymousreply 116June 13, 2022 9:16 AM

R114 here, my post was of course meant for R7.

by Anonymousreply 117June 13, 2022 11:08 AM

Neil Sean is full of horse manure. He has no better sources than Lady C, River, or any of the other coattail riders of this farce.

That's why he always uses his "allegedly" phraseology.

People close to the Queen, Charles, and William don't talk. The only people who might have leaked it are the Harkles themselves.

Tominey of the Telegraph and Wootton at the Mail, and Kate Nicholls may or may not have better sources, these types usually have some channel - but people like Sean, River, and Lady C don't. No one worth his gravitas as a good source would talk to these people.

What irks me as an Englishman, and full disclosure, I despise the Harkles and have participated heartily in most of these discussions when they aren't tinfoil hat flailing about whether the kids are real or were there, is that there are NO threads on Charles' latest attempt to violate his absolute boundary of public political neutrality, but without appearing to do so.

His remark about the Rwanda Migrant Project was clearly a planned leak from someone on his staff so that his opinion got conveyed. Then CH releases a statement indignantly insisting that of course the Prince is politically neutral, and using the phrase "alleged private conversations", a phrase that neither confirms nor denies that that IS what the PoW said.

In this way, the PoW got his political views out, some mysterious staffer is the real culprit, and Charles thinks no one sees him doing what he specifically promised NOT to do - again.

If he's too stupid to see that everyone knows that he got his political opinion out there this way but is trying to dodge responsibility for it (this IS a policy of the Home Office and therefore a political issue), then he really is not fit to be King and should step aside for William, or die suddenly of a stroke in the middle of the night - either way, saving the monarchy.

Why wasn't anyone interested in this story?

I admit it is far less entertaining than the Harkles' antics, e.g., Meghan, yet again, being caught plagiarising other people's words by posting a quote attributed to her on the web site of a women's organisation she supports, which turned out to be, except for two words, whole cloth, by e.e. cummings'. The organisationi had to issue an apology, put the full quote up the way cummings' wrote it, leaving more egg on the face of this unrepentantly ruthless mindless bitch.

But it's immaterial to the monarchy that we keep talking about. What Charles did is an ominous sigh of a refusal to acknowledge that his position puts limits on him, and a lingering view that he can do what he likes, sit on the throne, and get away with it, after publicly promising "not to be a meddling King" - because he has form here.

I'd have opened the thread myself, but given the absurd number of inane threads already up about Sussex kids, Cambridge kids, Fergie's outift, et al., I figured no one would read it and it would get 15 replies and wither on the vine.

But it's much more important, and, as an Englishman, it enrages me.

by Anonymousreply 118June 13, 2022 12:28 PM

And here is a link to the latest plagiarising issue by Meghan Markle.

Oh, they're FURIOUS, they're just so FURIOUS about the injustice of it all!!!!!

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by Anonymousreply 119June 13, 2022 12:43 PM

It would have taken nothing away from her to simply precede that quotation with "As e e cummings wrote...:

by Anonymousreply 120June 13, 2022 12:50 PM

R118 Yes a most serious matter. Charles has poor boundaries and will be unable to hold back on his opinions as he is that arrogant and narcissistic. It doesn't seem as though his people can control him.

by Anonymousreply 121June 13, 2022 1:00 PM

R188 For us Americans, what is the issue with Charles and Rwanda? Can you enlighten us in a brief sentence or two?

by Anonymousreply 122June 13, 2022 1:43 PM

Doesn’t William do the same as Charles making comments about political matters? William’s pet project is “Save the Earth.” We forget that he made a comment about population growth…in Africa, no less.

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by Anonymousreply 123June 13, 2022 2:03 PM

Haha they want an apology? Maybe the Harkles are so mad that they will never return to the UK.

by Anonymousreply 124June 13, 2022 2:06 PM

R122, the Tory government under Boris Johnson has adopted a policy of deporting migrants (who come to the UK seeking asylum) to Rwanda. Its rationale is discouraging people from risking their lives crossing the Channel. There's been an upsurge in crossings in the past few years.

The policy is illegal and inhumane.

by Anonymousreply 125June 13, 2022 2:16 PM

Yet, R125, Australia has been doing it for 21 years. Israel's been doing it since 2015. Denmark is in the process of setting up their own Rwanda scheme.

by Anonymousreply 126June 13, 2022 2:28 PM

R125....yes, and? What's Charles' position?

by Anonymousreply 127June 13, 2022 2:29 PM

I was watching 'Good Morning Britain' or some such legitimate sounding place - and a reporter there was defending Charles' statement about government policy and she hoped he would continue to express his views.

She debated the host about the subject - actually I think it was a man and a woman hosting the show and they were both leery of him delving into politics, but as you say, he has form.

Thank you R118. I hope you'll continue to enlighten us - I guess it's not as sexy/entertaining as subject as Meghan and Harry and their diabolical idiotic ways.

by Anonymousreply 128June 13, 2022 2:35 PM

* not as sexy/entertaining A subject as Meghan and Harry...

by Anonymousreply 129June 13, 2022 2:36 PM

Charles' position is that it's inhumane and appaling, R127.

But he needs to keep his mouth shut.

The usual view was Queenie and Charles were broad liberals, Phil and Andrew Tories, Anne a Labourite, the Queen Mum a fascist, and Edward a ditzy queen with no political opinions.

by Anonymousreply 130June 13, 2022 2:37 PM

R127 - I think Charles' position echoes the McCartney song "Let 'em in"

by Anonymousreply 131June 13, 2022 2:38 PM

R130 Thanks for that summation - interesting!

by Anonymousreply 132June 13, 2022 2:39 PM

Sources say it was William who got Andy booted from today's event- he said he would boycott if they let Andy prance about in a velveteen robe.

by Anonymousreply 133June 13, 2022 3:13 PM

Every narcissist I've ever met is always demanding an apology for some imagined slight despite their mistreatment of everyone around them. The demand always comes when those they have abused set boundaries. Their delusions would be comical if they weren't so deranged.

by Anonymousreply 134June 13, 2022 3:45 PM

Charles has spoken up about ecological issues for decades. Speaking up against the little fascist Priti Patel's idiotic - and bizarre - plan to deport immigrants to Rwanda is hardly dabbling in politics. It's a humanitarian issue.

As for Sarah Spencer inserting herself between William and Harry at the statue unveiling ceremony, as Harry runs to Gayle King to leak private conversations, she obviously wanted to be a witness to anything that was said. The royals cannot openly speak out about Harry's bullshit, but the Spencers can. So Harry alienated the Spencers as well as the Windsors.

by Anonymousreply 135June 13, 2022 4:17 PM

Charles didn't even say anything publicly about Rwanda. His private opinions were apparently leaked.

by Anonymousreply 136June 13, 2022 4:46 PM

R135 - Ecological issues and a critique of an officieal Home Office policy are not equivalencies.

They are not "immigrants". They are opportunist migrants forcing their way in illegally from a SAFE COUNTRY. Genuine asylum seekers are supposed to file for asylum in the FIRST safe country they pass through.

These migrants are refusing to file in France because they prefer Britain. They are country shopping, and 90% of them are young men.

France is offloading them onto Britain whilst laughing in its sleeve at us.

The UK taxpayers pay for border security, which they are not getting.

The only way to stop the trafficking is to demonstrate that it will not work.

Had the UK government shown some balls and deported thousands of them back to France, the traffic would have stopped.

A country without borders isn't a country, and Britain's shore has been an open border for five years. Other people in other countries have to wait for visas and documentation to emigrate.

These migrants force their way in, in the full expectation of never leaving, waiting years for their cases to be processed, with huge bills foisted onto the shoulders of British taxpayers already sinking to their knees in the worst economic conditions in half a century.

Charles, of course, like the Archbishop of Canterbury, isn't interested in the issues facing UK taxpayers.

Charles has no business, from his luxurious surroundings in Clarence House, making a statement about a government policy that impacts many people who aren't in his position.

Perhaps he should spend some time in that formerly nice quiet market town, pop. 750, where the government just dumped more than 1,000 illegal migrants.

This is not the same as commenting on ecological issues.

The Court of Appeal has rule don this. Something has to be done to stop the trafficking and the violation of Britain's borders.

The activists protesting this are Open Borders supporters, although they won't admit it publcily.

And if these migrants looked like Finnish or Danish or Swedish peoples, or were all from Japan, those same activists would be screaming about border security.

But because they're all brown, they're screaming Let 'em all in.

Charles was wrong to let this out. It's not within his purview to wield political power - we fought and died to wrest that kind of power from hereditary monarchs.

He should keep his mouth shut or step aside for William.

by Anonymousreply 137June 13, 2022 10:35 PM

The Windsors don't play that shit! Once you leave - you ain't gettin back in. Public lack of support by a family member is betrayal of the worst kind to an historic institution hanging on with everything its got. Survival!

by Anonymousreply 138June 13, 2022 10:41 PM

R138 - As so many of us predicted on DL from the outset: Meghan isn't Diana 2.0, she's Wallis Simpson 2.0.

by Anonymousreply 139June 13, 2022 11:08 PM

R138 has the clear-eyed and likely correct take.

by Anonymousreply 140June 13, 2022 11:10 PM

r82 They bring tourism into the UK not just London so comparing cities with London is not the answer.There is tourism to Edinburgh,Berkshire ,Aberdeen and other parts of the UK.

by Anonymousreply 141June 14, 2022 12:30 AM

R141 That's true. Hollyrood Palace in Edinburgh for example. For tourists much of Britain has the patina of the crown, whether the residents like it or not.

by Anonymousreply 142June 14, 2022 12:32 AM

r94 Apparently Princess Anne was key in drawing up the seating plan.

by Anonymousreply 143June 14, 2022 12:32 AM

r130 Anne a labourite?? what makes you think that? She had an almighty clash with labour Prime Ministers wife Cherie Blair at one point.

by Anonymousreply 144June 14, 2022 12:42 AM

Was it that big a Clash, r144? I read that when she was first introduced to Cherie Blair (at Balmoral maybe?), Mrs. Blair said "Call me Cherie," Anne pointedly said something to the effect of "I'll call you Mrs. Blair. It was frosty. Was there another encounter or more to this one?

by Anonymousreply 145June 14, 2022 12:57 AM

Cherie Blair was a shit-stirrer of the first order.

R138 must be Priti Patel.

by Anonymousreply 146June 14, 2022 12:59 AM

r145 Well Cherie Blair seems to think it was a big deal as she is reported in numerous other autobiographies to have gone on to other people years afterwards about Princess Anne saying THAT BITCH SNUBBED ME!!

by Anonymousreply 147June 14, 2022 1:01 AM

[quote]You wouldn't be an English-hating Scot, would you?

This is a popular misconception. The Scots don't hate the English; they hate Tories.

by Anonymousreply 148June 14, 2022 1:13 AM

The Scottish people are nice, but their government do seem to be anti everything English!

by Anonymousreply 149June 14, 2022 4:57 AM

I just noticed Tony Blair got his gong. Which means his Scouse cunt wife who regularly mocked having to curtsy to the Queen must now be called LADY Blair???????

by Anonymousreply 150June 14, 2022 5:04 AM

Two things - the newly-built refugee centre in Rwanda looks like a 3 star accommodation, replete with swimming pool. This is costing Britain a lot, actually.

And, they are not forced to go there. They can choose to be repatriated to their home country.

My plan would be to not rescue them at sea. Make the journey too risky to undertake. That would slow them down.

by Anonymousreply 151June 14, 2022 5:13 AM

If the whole sorry, silly, saga of Meg and Harry and Charles had a moral-of-the-story it'd be this:

NEVER do business with family! Family relationships fuck up the business side, and vice versa.

by Anonymousreply 152June 14, 2022 5:17 AM

Why Rwanda?

by Anonymousreply 153June 14, 2022 5:21 AM

I presume Rwanda has agreed to house scads of useless young men claiming to be refugees.

I also presume they're going to regret it very soon, when the useless young men who claimed to be refugees get angry, and funding for the nice-looking refugees slows down. Seriously, uneducated and angry young men are a plague on every single country on Earth, except maybe for the ones that want to use them as cannon fodder. Maybe Russia or North Korea will take some of them off Rwanda's hands...

by Anonymousreply 154June 14, 2022 5:27 AM

[quote] They can choose to be repatriated to their home country.

They can choose repatriation. They can be deported. But most often their overcrowded, failed home country refuses to take them back. Or will only take them back for a substantial deposit into the ruling despot's Swiss bank account. Then it's up to the deporting country to find a third country willing to take them.

by Anonymousreply 155June 14, 2022 5:34 AM

R58 seems plausible to me.

by Anonymousreply 156June 14, 2022 5:39 AM

I completely agree, R118 (although am somewhat baffled by your insistence that people close to Charles/William/HM don't talk, followed up a discussion of someone close to Charles doing just that, and with the obvious approval of Charles himself).

There are a lot of bad signs for Charles' kingship, this (his continued political meddling, even after past similar scandals) very much included. I'm not sure why the latest cash-for-honours scheme, which Michael Fawcett is once again pretending to take the fall for before inevitably being invited right back into the inner circle, didn't make more of a splash, either. I guess it just isn't as sensational as the Sussexes and their ongoing cringefest. Charles also has a history of petulance and impulsive leaking against his own family members, including his own sons. Like Andrew but perhaps not as extreme, there is also the apparent near-total lack of self-reflection, or the ability to enact change.

(and I agree with you that the Tory Rwanda policy is inhuman and fucked, btw. not all of us Harkle-haters are rabid right wing types!)

by Anonymousreply 157June 14, 2022 5:50 AM

Why exactly is the relocation to the Rwanda refugee centre inhuman? These people are criminals who have entered the UK illegally.

by Anonymousreply 158June 14, 2022 6:03 AM

Australia got it right. Do not rescue them from the seas. Shove the boats back out to where they came from. That stops the boats. We need snipers at the U.S. border.

by Anonymousreply 159June 14, 2022 9:21 AM

Apropos of nothing, I hope the Queen lives forever, but in reality I look forward to Kate becoming Princess of Wales. I think we're all ready for that particular torch to be passed, and thanks to Di it is an extra-glamorous title. Although the tabloids will probably persist in calling her "Kate Middleton" long after she's become Queen.

by Anonymousreply 160June 14, 2022 1:36 PM

Kate could be a glamorous PoW, but not until she gets a better stylist. With those endless coat-dresses, she might as well be wearing a nurse's uniform. The blazer/trousers outfit is getting boring too.

by Anonymousreply 161June 14, 2022 1:46 PM

Does anyone remember if Diana was generally referred to just Diana before she died, or Princess Diana in the tabloids? I know afterward she’s generally Princess Diana (although the title is not her official title).

by Anonymousreply 162June 14, 2022 1:52 PM

In the US she was usually referred to as Di.

by Anonymousreply 163June 14, 2022 2:01 PM

R157 Let's put it this way (and I did day that certain established media do have channels): generally, o the people close to the seniors don't talk about deeply private matters like how long the Queen spent with her grandchildren or whether the Brothers Are Speaking Regularly. It's obvious post-Jubly that that was made up out of whole cloth.

But when, say, Charles wants to get a political viewpoint out but disclaim responsibility for it, the omerta code is dropped.

I don't doubt that Priti Patel was livid, a d wouldn't be surprised if a private but pointed complaint was made to the Palace

Meanwhile, Biden is talking about sending the migrants piling up at his border to Spain.

The government in fact cannot do ANYTHING that the left and the AoC and Charles would approve except accepting everyone, and fuck the rest.

Thete are o good options here. The best options were mass deportations early on to send the message. It was unwieldy and expensive, so the government kicked the can down the road.

Denmark is doing much better. Its cancelling temporary residence permits, forcing people back to their home counties, and bribing others to leave, and cutting down asylum benefits.

If you have other ideas besides the UK taxpayer paying millions daily to people crossing illegally from France who expect housing, food, health care, etc., do let us know.

by Anonymousreply 164June 14, 2022 2:13 PM

Shy Di

Adulteress Di

Stalker Di

Pakistani men loving Di

by Anonymousreply 165June 14, 2022 2:13 PM

If memory serves me she was called Lady Diana Spencer.

by Anonymousreply 166June 14, 2022 2:15 PM

I remember when the Andrew Morton book came out with reports of Diana's suicide attempts, the NY Post cover blaring "LADY DIE." Or maybe Princess Die. Either way, it was a classic.

by Anonymousreply 167June 14, 2022 2:23 PM

Stop trying to make Jubly happen.

by Anonymousreply 168June 14, 2022 2:27 PM

R162 she was always Princess Di.

by Anonymousreply 169June 14, 2022 2:44 PM

[uote]the juxtaposition with Will’s stupid (and out of character) stunt is perfect. Although I think that was just coincidence.

I'd rather see the Royal Family out helping real people than playing dress up for BAFTA. That's what a high profile platform should be used for...to bring attention to initiatives that help real people and could use a boost.

And, clearly you're not familiar with PWs past work with homelessness and the poor... he's a patron of Centrepoint the PASSAGE initiative. And if you knew what he's done previously instead of just sniping then you'd know that he packed lunches in 2021 for Passages.

by Anonymousreply 170June 14, 2022 3:21 PM

Diana does get a lot of criticism here but after reading Tina Brown’s book I have come to really respect her for her work with charities. The thing that stands out is she was sincere in wanting to help them. She was often moved by the stories of people who needed help and was easily persuaded to support a number of charities—so much so that she often screwed up her schedule trying to fit in requests at the last minute. Yes, she liked the attention it got her, but she also felt very good and happy that she could help. I’m hoping this carried over to her children, but I don’t think it did to Harry.

by Anonymousreply 171June 14, 2022 3:28 PM

I appreciate that Diana helped people who were truly physically ill. I remember reading some quote from her about wanting to be there for the dying. That really touched my heart. Ill and dying isn’t all that trendy a cause these days.

by Anonymousreply 172June 14, 2022 3:49 PM

[quote]not all of us Harkle-haters are rabid right wing types!)

Maybe not but hating people you don't know personally is unhinged.

by Anonymousreply 173June 14, 2022 3:52 PM

6/13 Spectator: “The unremarkable Meghan Markle” She is terminal bread and circuses, SoCal lights and vapid glamor. ...Vanity Fair said, “She was spotted placing a bouquet of white flowers near a makeshift memorial,” not bothering to rewrite the press copy. Was spotted? In real time during the outing, aggressive publicists at Archewell were shopping and circulating copy and photos to media, getting instant pickup by Yahoo News, People, Elle, and other outlets worldwide…

[using a] private plane in Santa Barbara “as a mother.” Flying with staff, bodyguard and camera crew to a private airfield near Uvalde, she was whisked into a black van, amply photographed, and home before dark, job done, it’s a wrap. Was this some strange, sick, unspeakable parody of a royal visit? What the hell was it? … Is she insane? Not exactly, although many of her least attractive qualities are tucked into the DSM-5. With Meghan, there are too many fibs and fatuities to recount… “I just love rescuing,” [about her chickens] Markle said, talking to Oprah Winfrey about basics and authenticity. At this emetic Oprah moment, any insightful person would say ‘this phony is trolling us’, click off the television set and walk out of the room. Meghan’s fans go in for this kind of dreck…

After on-and-off drama before the Jubilee visit, the pair reportedly tried to secure photographs or film with the Queen and Prince William to use as part of the Netflix series… failure to land pictures, it is claimed, has dismayed Netflix executives. It might have led to their abrupt, early and rude departure from the Jubilee, again on a private jet….

The English public resents Harry’s self-exile, an act thought to reveal a troubled soul overshadowed by his brother and sister-in-law. At Eton his academic performance was weak, and his behavior finally disruptive. The nation loved him nonetheless, as it did his late mother, Diana. Harry is an accomplished horseman and soldier. He is now widely seen as prey for a manipulative American adventuress, redolent of Wallis Simpson and Edward VIII.

by Anonymousreply 174June 14, 2022 5:11 PM

How exactly did Diana help? Showing up with a camera crew and getting in the way of caregivers is not helping.

by Anonymousreply 175June 14, 2022 5:12 PM

I get so tired of that old "Wallis Simpson was an American adventuress and evil, blah, blah".......they apparently loved each other and stayed together until death so I don't think she was that evil. If she was truly an adventuress she'd have dumped his ass.

by Anonymousreply 176June 14, 2022 5:18 PM

Who is this woman Harry was flirting with at polo this past weekend.

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by Anonymousreply 177June 14, 2022 5:21 PM

Aren't you familiar with attitudes about AIDS patients during the crisis years in the '80s and '90s, r175? She touched AIDS patients, sat with them, and chatted and laughed with them in front of those cameras (in between trying to trip up the caregivers).

by Anonymousreply 178June 14, 2022 5:24 PM

R176, she cheated on him, was a Nazi supporter, and apparently refused to be with him with him when he died, so she was pretty evil.

by Anonymousreply 179June 14, 2022 5:24 PM

He was a Nazi supporter too. Sources for the rest of this? When I say sources I mean not some royal ass kissing source.

by Anonymousreply 180June 14, 2022 5:27 PM

Big deal r178, Diana Ross was hugging African orphans.

I think they’ve been scrubbed from the internet, but in the 80s, Diana Ross did those “for the price of a piece of pie, you can fatten up an African orphan” commercials. It was one thing being lectured by Sally Struthers, but Diana Fucking Ross trying to get me to open my wallet? I wasn’t having it.

by Anonymousreply 181June 14, 2022 5:35 PM

Dukie: "Wallis, please don't send me to bed in tears again tonight!" I see the DL is missing the Old Guard who knew what a well-documented bitch Wallis was.

by Anonymousreply 182June 14, 2022 5:43 PM

[quote]Diana Ross did those “for the price of a piece of pie, you can fatten up an African orphan” commercials. It was one thing being lectured by Sally Struthers, but Diana Fucking Ross trying to get me to open my wallet? I wasn’t having it.

Jesus Christ on a cracker, what an impressive non sequitur! And by the end, you made it all about you. How did you manage to pull it off?

by Anonymousreply 183June 14, 2022 6:13 PM

I tend to think if I were lying desolate in a hospital bed, the sight of a beautiful golden goddess come to hold my hand and speak kind words would be extremely soothing. She clearly had a gift for it.

by Anonymousreply 184June 14, 2022 6:14 PM

Princess Di visiting the AIDS ward, talking to and hugging patients was a gamechanger. I was still in the closet back then and as terrified of getting AIDS as I was of being outted at work. We stopped being lepers after that.

Her work with AIDS patients and on landmines are her real legacy. She made a difference. Towards the end of her life though, she was frittering away her time simultaneously latching onto fleeting causes and fleeting men.

by Anonymousreply 185June 14, 2022 6:28 PM

On behalf of African orphans in Africa (as opposed to those safely ensconced in Mayfair or Manhattan) we are getting pretty sick and tired of being celebrity props.

I'm sorry. I'm cranky. Because I'm hungry.

by Anonymousreply 186June 14, 2022 6:31 PM

Wallis spent her later years with Jimmy Donahue, a gay man-about-town. They were accused of having an affair by the Duke who appears to have been as clueless as one might assume.

by Anonymousreply 187June 14, 2022 6:34 PM

[quote]I'd rather see the Royal Family out helping real people than playing dress up for BAFTA. That's what a high profile platform should be used for...to bring attention to initiatives that help real people and could use a boost.

No to go all Miranda Priestly and cerulean on you but it's not just about dress up. When they show at the BAFTAs they draw attention to the work, and support the incomes of actors, directors, producers, writers, production managers, art directors, costume designers, costume makers, costume renters, camera operators, craft services, marketing, publicity, location managers, location owners.... you follow. It's an economy.

by Anonymousreply 188June 14, 2022 6:37 PM

And to follow up on r188's comment, "bring[ing] attention to initiatives that help real people and could use a boost" is EXACTLY what the working royals do day after effing day. Do you have any idea what W & C's engagement calendars look like? They are all over Britain, meeting and talking to people to lend support of initiatives that benefit the community.

Will's Big Issue "stunt" was never intended to be the act that brought about a miraculous end to homelessness, but it did call attention to one small way that an average person might help a homeless person - buy a paper from them. It made global headlines and even the criticism that some have leveled at him has helped remind viewers of the homeless.

Or, you know, he could just play polo.

by Anonymousreply 189June 14, 2022 7:17 PM

That oldest son is certainly developing the Windsor horse genes. Big chompers.

by Anonymousreply 190June 14, 2022 7:19 PM

They were at the Grenfell tower memorial service today. Hardly glamorous. It was five years ago that caught fire.

by Anonymousreply 191June 14, 2022 7:21 PM

[quote]Princess Di visiting the AIDS ward, talking to and hugging patients was a gamechanger.

I remember as a kid visiting my mother in the hospital & seeing a man that was clearly AIDS patient waiting for some treatment; the man was skeletal, his skin looked like rotten fruit & has clearly in intense pain. Say what you will about Di, but that took courage & a strong stomach

by Anonymousreply 192June 14, 2022 7:27 PM

R176 - It wasn't that simple. She couldn't dump his ass after what he gave up for her. She also would have lost the title. She was for it and she knew it. Loved each other? Well, yes, I guess. She made him quite miserable, she had affairs, she bullied him . . . but she knew, somewhat like Meghan Markle, that it was as high as she was ever going to get, and she played the role did death did them part.

Because, as we all know, no woman has ever stayed in it for any other reason that deep love, right?

She also lifted him from a close friend during said friend's absence. Thelma Furness, his married mistress du jour, had to leave town. "Take of the little man for me," she said rather naively to Wallis.

When Furness got back, as she drily put it in her memoirs, she found that Wallis "had taken care of him exceedingly well". Edward cut Furness off without so much as an acknowledgement of their years together.

Wallis, like Meghan, was hard as nails and no fool. Dumping his ass wasn't an option after his abdication. She'd have been a pariah in the social circles they moved in.

Love is never that simple, and certainly not in these circles. Wallis got as far as she could. Without him, she'd have lost it all.

There's a famous photo of Wallis ripping the Dook a new one in the back of a limo. She looks like she's about to murder him and he's hunched down like a whipped dog.

Dear me, yes. They just loved each other or she would have ditched his ass.

by Anonymousreply 193June 14, 2022 7:38 PM

This one, I'd guess.

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by Anonymousreply 194June 14, 2022 7:50 PM

I know we don't do LOL much any more, but LOL, check out r194's picture and then check out this.

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by Anonymousreply 195June 14, 2022 9:09 PM

To be fair, a half-second captured by the camera can suggest anything. Supermarket tabloid covers still make a real art form of this. For instance here, Ripa and Kelly were probably caught saying things like "oh wow, look who's here" or "hey, easy with the flash." One eyeroll or grimace and you've got a narrative.

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by Anonymousreply 196June 14, 2022 9:17 PM

[quote]Maybe not but hating people you don't know personally is unhinged.

Christ you hand-wringers are tiresome. "Harkle-haters" was an obvious light-hearted jab at people like you, busy labeling amusement and scorn as "hate." You want to see hate? Check out the Ukraine war threads. There's some deserved hate for actual hateful acts in there. No one seriously "hates" Harry and Meghan - it's more horrified and entertained in equal measures, but I know that deprives you of the delicious pleasure you and those like you appear to take in assuming all disagreement with your right-thinking is actual hatred.

If you don't like reading negative opinions about Celeb X, R173, the best thing to do would be not to spend time in places where people are regularly expressing those opinions.

by Anonymousreply 197June 14, 2022 9:25 PM

Hubby James Brolin: "YOU'RE DRIVING ME INSANE!" (Actual words: "I'm going golfing. Do you want to meet in the mall for dinner?"

Stepson Josh Brolin: "BUTT OUT OF OUR LIVES!" (Actual words: "Call security, Barbra: Another Yentl stan is climbing over the fence!"

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by Anonymousreply 198June 14, 2022 9:30 PM

Sorry R197 you are wrong. There are some seriously disturbed "harkle haters" on this board. Not just amused distaste like my postings on Madonna but some seriously fucking disturbed frauen posting.

by Anonymousreply 199June 14, 2022 9:32 PM

^^^ megain

by Anonymousreply 200June 14, 2022 9:35 PM

^^^no.....and this is why you all seem batshit crazy.

by Anonymousreply 201June 14, 2022 9:39 PM

Quote it, R199. Or just tell us what it was to the best of your recollection. I won't even deny there's some insanity (and, sorry, but this is both sides - the stans and the "haters" have people at the extremes who seem either genuinely batshit or very good at imitating batshit) with the fake baby theories and global cabals using Meghan to take down the BRF etc. (and no one ever says WHO this global cabal is - surely there are juicier targets than a powerless bunch of not-even-very-rich-these-days posh British people) but I'm not sure I've seen *hate.* (which, incidentally, I have seen from the other side - I've seen tweets hoping for the deaths of the Cambridge children, for example).

Either way, the vast majority of people posting in these threads are here to take the piss out of Harry and Meghan. No one's wishing for their deaths, no one thinks they're on a level with Putin etc.

by Anonymousreply 202June 14, 2022 9:41 PM

You don't have to wish death to hate someone R202 but here's one fucking psychotic frau who posts here. If you think these accusations are normal than you need so see a shrink.

[quote]The thread was revenge by someone we know well who hates Kate's guts for succeeding where Meghan failed, for being slim and tall and able to wear clothes that Meghan can't because Meghan is short and squat with bad legs, for having DOMINANT hair naturally whilst Meghan has to attach hers with glue, and for being a future Queen and mother of a future King, whilst Meghan tries frantically to make herself matter with a pale title, is the mother of two kids no one cares about, and has to manage a mentally ill husband who bends over in public and spreads his cheeks to fart at a polo game., whilst Kate's husband accrues more BDE every year as his father inches up to the throne and William inches up to Prince of Wales and heir to all that money from the Duchy of Cornwall. The reason you're seeing it come down to hate is because this wasn't a casual discussion of how Kate looked. One look at the word "skeletal" told us who OP really was: out for blood. OP is a full-bore Kate Hater. She needs to be called out for her lies.

by Anonymousreply 203June 14, 2022 9:44 PM

Fyi, R202, I've put R199 on ignore. I do so only with a special kind of stupid, i. e. with lunatic and obsessed Markle fanchicks infesting this place and calling the gay lads in here 'fags' and stuff like that. This one here is one of them.

by Anonymousreply 204June 14, 2022 9:46 PM

^SS intern shift just started. Hang on for why do you all hate her, you don't even know her & all that blather. The coup de grace will be the threat the FBI, CIA, MI5&6, Interpol, Vatican Swiss Guards will be knocking at our doors in 3,2,1 for what we have posted, thought about posting, or are even thinking that is not positive about the Markles

by Anonymousreply 205June 14, 2022 9:46 PM

Unhinged is about the only word R173 knows. Her act hasn't changed much as long she's been here. And as R204 deftly notes, the mask will slip very soon and it'll be fags etc. and so forth. It's pathetic. And worse, tedious. I can tolerate their sad fixation for the entertainment value, but boring is a step too far. Like 204, I've had R199 on block for ages. It's not hard to spot.

by Anonymousreply 206June 14, 2022 9:49 PM

I even baked a yummy cake for the FBI guys so I'll have something delicious to offer apart from my hot ass and my massive schlong when they will at last come to my house to discuss my posts in here about La Markle, alas ...

by Anonymousreply 207June 14, 2022 9:50 PM

I had group sex with the Vatican guys. They don't get out much.

by Anonymousreply 208June 14, 2022 9:52 PM

Honestly that person just sounds like you, R203. "YOU DON'T LIKE THE SAME CELEBRITY AS ME AND THAT'S HATE! HAAAAAATE! YOU EVIL HATERS!"

It's not real hate. Someone just doesn't like the same celeb as you. And yes, the quote reveals the person to be invested in this. Which is...actually fine. Maybe a little embarrassing but this IS an anonymous board and I read people embarrassing themselves here all the time. Myself included. Would it be healthier to perhaps be slightly less invested? Yes, sure. But, I'm here. You're here. We both care to some degree, and it's hypocritical to hammer others for also caring.

[quote]You don't have to wish death to hate someone

I never said you did. But wishing death on someone does imply hate. Real hate. Not "you think this celeb I like has a fat ass" 'hate.'

For real, WHY do you care? Why do you care what that person says about Meghan? If you're so against judging people you don't know personally, why are you here, judging people you don't know personally? Like either that's OK to you (in which case leave us to it, thanks) or it's not (in which case stop calling people you don't know "fucking psychotic").

by Anonymousreply 209June 14, 2022 9:53 PM

R209 is batshit...why the ALLCAPS screaming, dear? I never said thinking someone has a fat ass is hate. You're a troll, darlin'.

Bye.

by Anonymousreply 210June 14, 2022 9:56 PM

Come on, R203, answer R209. Legitimate question. Why does Markle matter to you so much? Are you marginalized? Friendless? Hoping to become a paralegal? Why come here to moan about this board when there are others where you could find, I don't like to use the word minds, but find other people like you.

by Anonymousreply 211June 14, 2022 9:57 PM

I went ahead and blocked R11 so you will be talking to yourself, looney tune.

by Anonymousreply 212June 14, 2022 9:58 PM

Told ya the mask would slip. Not quite ancient fags, but we're not far off, I'd reckon.

by Anonymousreply 213June 14, 2022 10:00 PM

R211, there's no point in asking a rabid Markle fan for a proper response. The only thing they come up with is stuff like 'racism!!!' and various deranged slurs including 'fags'. Wait for it.

by Anonymousreply 214June 14, 2022 10:02 PM

R212 eff off.

by Anonymousreply 215June 14, 2022 10:05 PM

I know, R214, just enjoy toying with them. The thing is that they don't get is they'll never change anything.

by Anonymousreply 216June 14, 2022 10:06 PM

7 posts. Seven. That is officially the longest exchange I have ever had with one of those "you don't like Meghan and that's HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE" posters.

I admit a small measure of smug glee at the flounce, R210. You know you can't respond in good faith to the final paragraph of my post at R209 and have had to immediately fall back on accusations of trolling when in fact I've been replying to you in good faith for this entire exchange.

If you change your mind and can explain why it's OK for you to call strangers mean names but not for others to call Meghan Markle mean names then feel free.

by Anonymousreply 217June 14, 2022 10:09 PM

Could somebody tell Meghan's deluded fans that the DL is the home of Pointless Bitchery? A golddigging failed starlet is fair game!

by Anonymousreply 218June 14, 2022 10:10 PM
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by Anonymousreply 219June 14, 2022 10:13 PM

Interesting the Macleans article. It seems like a couple of times a week I open Twitter and Markle's trending. Did something happen? I check. No, they are obsessive fans (or pretending to be obsessive fans) just fawning over how wonderful she is. Meghan's got herself a troll farm. Nothing about this is believable.

by Anonymousreply 220June 14, 2022 10:16 PM

You only have to take a closer look at many of these Markle-supporting Twitter accounts. Incessantly tweeting about La Markle, posting messages like "She's so great!", "She's awesome!", "I love her!" and the like. One can write such inane stuff after three to five hours of learning basic English.

by Anonymousreply 221June 14, 2022 10:20 PM

I've noticed exactly that, R221. Before I even understood what bots and troll farms etc. even were (and that was embarrassingly recent) I noticed that 80-90% of the pro-Sussex replies on Twitter etc. were maximum 5 words in length and padded out with emojis. "So sweet!" "She's so beautiful!" "Love her heart!" etc. Once you see it, it's very obvious to spot with other celebs as well.

by Anonymousreply 222June 14, 2022 10:23 PM

[quote] I am just waiting for Harry to finally leave Megan

We know. The funniest thing about you pathetic fraus is that he continues NOT to leave her.

by Anonymousreply 223June 14, 2022 10:24 PM

[quote]Hate you fraus

Omg! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE!

by Anonymousreply 224June 14, 2022 10:29 PM

R223, that's why you continue to write in BRF threads.

Because you're a pathetic frau yourself.

:-*

by Anonymousreply 225June 14, 2022 10:32 PM

Every comment between R212 until R223 is missing LOL. Something is busy.

by Anonymousreply 226June 14, 2022 10:34 PM

Bed time in the UK. The fraucunts are busy on the web now.

by Anonymousreply 227June 14, 2022 10:35 PM

I think they're trying a new tactic at link

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by Anonymousreply 228June 14, 2022 11:04 PM

"I get so tired of that old "Wallis Simpson was an American adventuress and evil, blah, blah"."

As with Harry and Meg, people liked to blame Wallis for everything the Windsors did, from the abdication on, when in fact it was the Duke who was calling the big shots. She tried to talk him out of the abdication, but he did it anyway. She was happy to be his mistress but he wanted to marry, so they got married. He wanted to be a useless twat because that was all he knew... well it was all she knew as well. But the world blamed Wallis for it all, because they thought they "knew" David, because the royal publicity office had convinced them that he was a fun-loving, decent, dutiful chap.

And now Harry is calling the biggest shots, like leaving the royal family, and most people are blaming Meg because they thought they "knew" Harry. They really are Edward and Wallis 2.0.

by Anonymousreply 229June 15, 2022 12:06 AM

If ya ask me, Zara did the smart thing not taking the title. You always see her at the best events, dressed to the nines and having a ball. Then gets to live a comfortable private life. Nice work if you can get it.

by Anonymousreply 230June 15, 2022 1:04 AM

Zara and her brother never had the option of a title. Their mother decided that. The Wessex children do have that option. The Sussex children will automatically have titles when their grandfather ascends the throne.

by Anonymousreply 231June 15, 2022 1:16 AM

Oh dear, the nasties from RoyalDish have invaded. Be gone, but alas RoyalDish stopped all discussion of Meghan and Harry in 2021.

So they come here to rant.

by Anonymousreply 232June 15, 2022 1:35 AM

Is that where they're from R232?

by Anonymousreply 233June 15, 2022 1:37 AM

R230 Zara has a comfortable life because SHE HAS NO TITLE. This has allowed her to prostitute herself for Range Rover, ugly equestrian jewelry, and a host of other products, etc. She makes a living because of who she is, and is free to do it due to no title.

Remember her brother and his milk adverts in China? Hilarious.

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by Anonymousreply 234June 15, 2022 1:38 AM

Zara also has a comfortable life because she is one of the world’s best and most famous equestrians. Good for her that she has set herself up in the way that she has.

How many Olympic medals do you have, R234?

by Anonymousreply 235June 15, 2022 2:04 AM

I’m ok with whatever Zara wants to do to make money, as long as she’s not on the taxpayer’s dole. She seems like she’s got a robust interesting personality, as does her husband. Probably she’s a lot like her mother. I bet if she had Edward’s personality, there wouldn’t be much demand for her endorsements.

by Anonymousreply 236June 15, 2022 2:08 AM

"More erogenous zones contact than you can count with one hand...."

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by Anonymousreply 237June 15, 2022 7:04 AM

Oh, that's Delfina?!?!

Heh. The same polo wife who IGed Meg's wide backside at a society BBQ recently? The one who's married to the Los Padres Captain and international male model, Nacho Figueras, the handsome Argentinian who possesses a full head of hair and many multi-million dollar contracts around the world with all sorts of companies, not just fashion houses?

Meghan chose her enemies very unwisely. And it's showing. The society wives in Harry's circle... Oh, my the chatter. I wish Dominick Dunne were still alive and gracing genteel Santa Barbara and Montecito society.

by Anonymousreply 238June 15, 2022 7:52 AM

I don't think the Sussexes are their own bosses any more and are not the architect of their latest offences. They owe Netflix and if they are told to go to the Jubilee and get photos with the queen, or MM is told to go to Texas with a camera crew, they go.

Coming out of the cathedral, they looked as if they were about to cry. Moral - be careful what you ask for, because you just might get it.

by Anonymousreply 239June 15, 2022 7:58 AM

I do wish Americans wouldn't make fools of themselves by commenting on the professional activities of members of the royal family.

by Anonymousreply 240June 15, 2022 9:08 AM

Her hands are huge! His hands look tiny. She's something of an Amazon. She must be 6' tall.

by Anonymousreply 241June 15, 2022 9:14 AM

[quote]I do wish Americans wouldn't make fools of themselves by commenting on the professional activities of members of the royal family.

I do wish those racist inbreds pedophiles could just die all at once so nobody would talk about them anymore.

PS: I'm not American.

by Anonymousreply 242June 15, 2022 9:14 AM

Her hands are huge! His hands look tiny. She's something of an Amazon. She must be 6' tall.

by Anonymousreply 243June 15, 2022 9:15 AM

At least she's tall. Squat Markle got the giant hands and feet without the height. Her feet are huge!

by Anonymousreply 244June 15, 2022 10:22 AM

R230 Zara had no choice in the matter. Her father refused the title that the Queen offered him. No titled father, no titled children. At best, Mark Phillip's would have gotten an earldom, and Zara would be Lady Zara M'B, with no HRH,ike Princess Margaret's daughter.

Making Mike Tindall an earl would have been ludicrous.

It was the decision of Pss Anne and Mark Phillips that left Zara untitled. A title for Tindall was never in the cards.

by Anonymousreply 245June 15, 2022 10:32 AM

I doubt that there will be any more hereditary titles outside the direct royal line, where they automatically revert back to the crown. If a future king or queen wants to enhance the status of working royals outside the direct line, the best thing would be to grant titles for life only - there's no reason this can't happen - the monarch is the fount of honour and can do what they like..

by Anonymousreply 246June 15, 2022 10:41 AM

Just don't click on the links then, r242. Your choice.

by Anonymousreply 247June 15, 2022 11:03 AM

Oh, R238.... what an idea! I never thought there'd be a day I'd wish for DD again because I always found him bitter smurf, with a perpetual did-you-fart? face, but him truffle hunting through the House of Sussex... her stans would self-immolate.

by Anonymousreply 248June 15, 2022 12:27 PM

And there was something about Dunne, that people just spilled for him. RU born with that aura? Is it cultivated?

My Maternal Gran had that. I couldn't stand her, but there were always all these friends, neighbors, & family members gathered at her house, spilling to her all the time

by Anonymousreply 249June 15, 2022 12:34 PM

R249, my dad had that, and so do I, when I turn it on. You have to be a blank and neutral listener, like a therapist, asking good questions at strategic intervals. Or be a rapt and gasping audience, expressing indignation and validation at strategic intervals.

Your approach will influence what kind of intel you get.

by Anonymousreply 250June 15, 2022 12:47 PM

R 249, please tell me more..Which one gets the real dirt dirt? I have a person I have to interact with. Death bed promise partner & I made to her mom. The monm was a good friend to us as a gay couple in the rural area, where we lived when things were not so tolerant. Her daughter, however, is sooo dodgy. Try to avoid as much as possible, but she initiates at times.

So, does neurtal get the most down & dirty, or does the rapt, agreeing one get the most?

by Anonymousreply 251June 15, 2022 1:01 PM

“I like climbers. They interest me.” Famous quote from Dunne. He was admittedly one himself.

I recently reread “fatal charms,“ a collection of his Vanity Fair stories from the 80s and 90s. He was such a good writer, so readable. Knew how to use a fancy word or phrase yet still be elegantly plainspoken. I went to hear him speak in New York in the early 90s and got my book signed after. He was very priestly, I can see why people confessed to him.

by Anonymousreply 252June 15, 2022 1:01 PM

R251, I think neutral gets more information about the confessor’s feelings. Having reactions like shock or skepticism gets more information about deeds.

Also, expressing skepticism (“oh I don’t believe that; she’s a nice girl!”) or failing to be impressed (“So? who hasn’t sucked two dicks at once”) encourages the confessor to offer more juicy details.

by Anonymousreply 253June 15, 2022 1:15 PM

Thanks R253. My partner & are trying to walk that slippery slope of trying to honor what we promised her mom & how our instincts keep screaming, "Get away, quick, this is a bad un'". Will try & employ these tips. We've been doing, "Don't speak when you can listen, when you can't listen, just watch."

by Anonymousreply 254June 15, 2022 1:22 PM

R254, what did you promise? You can’t do much (as you seem to realize), besides watching and listening. And maybe post bail…

by Anonymousreply 255June 15, 2022 1:54 PM

R252 - I just read An Iconvenient Woman this weekend (three successive days of 100°+ heat kept me in), so DD was on my mind. Prior to this, I'd only read his VF essays. I'm not much of a fiction reader, but I was kept rapt. So true about being elegantly plainspoken. And what a story teller! I wonder how he felt about the royals. He never had entree to that society, that I know of.

by Anonymousreply 256June 15, 2022 3:29 PM

Miss, with all due respect I have my own problems.

by Anonymousreply 257June 15, 2022 3:32 PM

As Meghan can't get along with her family or her in-laws, she is obviously not going to get along with the other polo wives especially the hot ones. The only reason she got along with Jessica Mulroney is because she looks like a horse and was no threat to Meghan. Harry will reach a point where he's fed up with being isolated from society.

by Anonymousreply 258June 15, 2022 3:41 PM

I bet the goings on in the California polo world read like a Jackie Collins novel.

by Anonymousreply 259June 15, 2022 3:43 PM

The slide into Windsors2.0 continues.

by Anonymousreply 260June 15, 2022 3:43 PM

Why is Nacho living in the US when the US has a negligible to non-existent polo scene?

by Anonymousreply 261June 15, 2022 3:50 PM

R256 He must have written some articles on the Royals at some point. There are references to them sprinkled throughout his books. In “the Two Mrs. Grenvilles,” there’s a scene with princess Margaret acting grand and holding her cigarette holder in an interesting way. There was some line like “one wished her diamond brooch was less royal and her tweed skirt more royal.” In “another city, not my own,” which was not his best work, he recounts meeting princess Diana, who wanted gossip about the OJ trial. She predicted OJ would get off.

by Anonymousreply 262June 15, 2022 4:19 PM

I think he actually was at some dinner with Princess Margaret, admits he acted over eager, and she cut him dead.

by Anonymousreply 263June 15, 2022 4:20 PM

I miss the Good Old Days of Vanity Fair and Dunne. Now they stick has-been rappers and nonentities on the cover.

by Anonymousreply 264June 15, 2022 4:29 PM

For Dominick Dunne’s take on what he called “Cinderella girls” who marry into rich, powerful families, just read The Two Mrs. Grenvilles, it’s all there.

by Anonymousreply 265June 15, 2022 4:34 PM

R261 - He doesn't live in the U.S. He's based on a horse ranch in Argentina, but spends most of the year traveling internationally for polo and business. Curious, I read an article about Nacho after the awards presentation debacle. East coast venues in the Hamptons and Florida are part of the international polo circuit. Santa Barbara is a new venture for him. I can't recall if he ever played there before, but it wasn't part of his regular circuit. I'm not clear on whether Padres is an effort to popularize the sport on the west coast (and get luxury goods endorsements as a result) or if it's orchestrated for Harry's benefit. Or both. The team doesn't seem to be that good. Nacho's a professional, Harry's an amateur, and the rest of the players looked very young.

by Anonymousreply 266June 15, 2022 4:35 PM

I should think Santa Barbara is a good place for polo. I also assume that wife is the alpha queen bee of the polo WAGs, to be cultivated and deferred to, certainly not crossed or one-upped in any way.

by Anonymousreply 267June 15, 2022 4:43 PM

[quote] I think he actually was at some dinner with Princess Margaret, admits he acted over eager, and she cut him dead.

Actually it was with the Queen. he kept obsessively photographing her at a private party and she finally begged the hostess to make him stop. He was completely mortified, and wrote it up in "the Two Mrs. Grenvilles" as happening with his antiheroine Anne Grenville (although he oddly makes it seem like it's about Princess Margaret rather than the Queen--in real life, Margaret would have told him directly to knock it off; the real Queen is too polite).

by Anonymousreply 268June 15, 2022 5:05 PM

Omg it was the Queen? Poor Nick.

by Anonymousreply 269June 15, 2022 5:10 PM

"Why do you suppose Irish Catholics are all social climbers? Is it because their mothers were all chambermaids?... (**pause**) ... Oh, of course I don't mean you!"

-- Gore Vidal to Dominick Dunne, overheard at a society luncheon in their later years

by Anonymousreply 270June 15, 2022 5:14 PM

But wasn’t there also some anecdote or other about princess Margaret? Basically how she was snobbish and unimpressive to him?

by Anonymousreply 271June 15, 2022 5:16 PM

^R255, we promised her mom would look after her keep close to her, since there is little family. Troublesome of us.

by Anonymousreply 272June 15, 2022 5:46 PM

Hmm. OK I'm not British so I don't know if this "Express" is a terrible rag or what - but they're reporting that Anne's daughter Zara's husband called Harry a "bastard"

Whoa... I mean, did he meant it literally or just another word for "asshole"?

I know it's cruel, but one little DNA test would put all the gossip and jokes to rest. I was watching one of the latter years Craig Ferguson shows (late night chat show on a main network), and he said, "William gave his Prince Charles a nice tie for Father's Day. Harry gave his father a nice gift, as well!"

Link is on Instagram

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by Anonymousreply 273June 15, 2022 10:19 PM

* William gave Prince Charles --- not 'his' prince Charles

by Anonymousreply 274June 15, 2022 10:20 PM

Tindall didn't call Haz a bastard, dumbass. BELLEND

by Anonymousreply 275June 15, 2022 10:31 PM

LOL... somebody called him Second Row Harry.

That could be their new substitute for HRH... SRH...

by Anonymousreply 276June 15, 2022 10:31 PM

I think they were saying that Mike Tindall called Prince Harry a "bellend", not a "bastard".

by Anonymousreply 277June 15, 2022 10:50 PM

Basically a d*ck. Harry tried to catch his eye leaving St. Paul’s and Mike totally blanked him.

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by Anonymousreply 278June 15, 2022 10:53 PM

“Bellend”. Fantastic!

by Anonymousreply 279June 15, 2022 11:21 PM

Sorry - I jumped to a stupid conclusion. I'm not familiar with the term bellend.

by Anonymousreply 280June 15, 2022 11:40 PM

I noticed both Anne's kids surrounding the Harkles on their way out. But I didn't take it to mean they were close, I thought they were acting like Diana's sisters were at the statue unveiling: isolating them. Imagine what Anne thinks of those two grifters.

by Anonymousreply 281June 15, 2022 11:46 PM

Anne is all about duty. If she truly designed the seating chart it's pretty clear what she thinks of them.

by Anonymousreply 282June 15, 2022 11:53 PM

I'm an American. When I first saw the term "bellend" on the late, great IMDb sports board (fantastic football/soccer discussions), from the context I took it to mean remarkably stupid, as in several standard deviations from the mean on the tail end of the bell curve. Which makes complete sense, but duh, an insult based on statistical concepts isn't going to become slang. I didn't realize until it was explained to another American poster that it refers to the end of a penis. 🤪

by Anonymousreply 283June 16, 2022 12:01 AM

SRH Baron Bellend and Baroness...? Bumpcradler? I can't think of a fuck up she's that works with a b.

by Anonymousreply 284June 16, 2022 12:14 AM

Banshee

by Anonymousreply 285June 16, 2022 12:38 AM

R281 If you watch the footage, yes Anne's children (Zara and Peter) did come out with the Harkles, but Zara was actually the only one to engage with them, and Harry only. Zara's husband Mike ignored them the whole time talking with Princess Margaret's son. Peter says something briefly to Harry but when Meghan turns to talk to him Peter looks away, and Zara doesn't engage Meghan either. And then Zara smirks slightly as the boos start while H&M go down the stairs.

by Anonymousreply 286June 16, 2022 3:45 AM

For what it's worth:

Press release sent out to Heat Magazine today (June 15): Meghan Markle says, “We have been left hurt by our treatment in the UK by the public and other members of the Royal Family during the celebration to mark the Queen’s 70-year reign.”

An insider from the Markle team told Heat, "For Meghan, it just strengthened her resolve to not come back to the UK."

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by Anonymousreply 287June 16, 2022 5:25 AM

Lol, do you really believe that's an authentic statement, r287? It's obviously fabricated.

by Anonymousreply 288June 16, 2022 7:35 AM

R288 is right. Not even Meghan is THAT stupid.

by Anonymousreply 289June 16, 2022 9:32 AM

Meghan wouldn't release a direct quote like that.

What would happen is a story would pop up that "an inside source said that Meghan was left crushed and dismayed by the cold shoulder she received."

by Anonymousreply 290June 16, 2022 11:00 AM

[quote]I miss the Good Old Days of Vanity Fair and Dunne. Now they stick has-been rappers and nonentities on the cover.

True, though a lot of his later reporting was really stilted because of the murder of his daughter. His articles about the woman that accused William Kennedy Smith made her sound like this saintly mother just out of a night on town when she ran into Big Willy. That's not to say that she should be slut shamed, but she wasn't the plaster saint her made her out to be either. I think the death of his daughter (among other things) resulted in him just coming unglued & writing about victimization rather than his dishy reporting from back in the day.

But back to the subject; sorry to derail the Harklefest

by Anonymousreply 291June 16, 2022 11:10 AM

This type of double standard is commonplace with narcissists. They feel entitled to trash you at every opportunity but you must at all times treat them with the utmost of respect and deference or they will yowl incessantly.

These two very publicly and dishonestly bit the hand that fed them and now their feelings are hurt that they weren't greeted with fawning and adulation? Their delusions are out of control.

by Anonymousreply 292June 16, 2022 11:11 AM

Dunno would have had a field day with Meghan, and with Kate for that matter. He likely would have been highly amused by Meghan's brazen hustle, and impressed with Kate's slow, sure, impeccable ascent, as only a fellow climber can be. Same goals, different techniques.

by Anonymousreply 293June 16, 2022 11:15 AM

^ Dunne, as in Dominick, not "Dunno." Dunno how that happened.

by Anonymousreply 294June 16, 2022 11:15 AM

The latest from Neil Sean... Minute 1:30 on:

He says apparently there was a photograph made when Harry and Meghan spent that 12 minutes with the Queen - BUT it’s a "private picture that’s being withheld by the royal court. No one else can publish the picture apart from the sanction and authority of our gracious monarch."

He goes on to say H&M are hoping for an invite to Balmoral, where the Queen is soon headed for summer holidays and where she invites most of her family to come visit, though not all at one time– then he starts bitching about “woke” stuff, as he almost always does, perhaps for his Fox News audience (in one of his videos he shows a big billboard with his face on it, as "royal expert" and down in the corner there's the Fox News logo.

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by Anonymousreply 295June 17, 2022 12:35 AM

I think he said that the picture was at Frogmore? Listen to it again and tell me what you think.

by Anonymousreply 296June 17, 2022 12:39 AM

Oh and at the 2 minute mark at the video above, there's a sighting of Hot Johnny! The Scottish guard or whatever who sat behind the Harkles at the cathedral - and he's wearing a kilt !! That Queen knows how to pick 'em. Wish I was filthy rich and he could be my body - guard...

by Anonymousreply 297June 17, 2022 12:42 AM

I think you're right R296 but it's a little fuzzy. He's says it's not true that she was darting back and forth to the cottage to visit but: "we had one visit, non sort of public visit, from our gracious majesty..."

So the word "from" seems to imply she went to visit them at Frogmore. Hmmm. Hope she took the Scotsman with her, to prove to H&M she has the "right people" around her.

by Anonymousreply 298June 17, 2022 12:47 AM

No way would the only picture of the Queen and Lily be left at Frogmore Cottage.

Makes no sense.

by Anonymousreply 299June 17, 2022 1:47 AM

I'm surprised the palace didn't put out a picture of the two Lilibets together.

by Anonymousreply 300June 17, 2022 2:41 AM

Why on earth would they r300?

by Anonymousreply 301June 17, 2022 2:45 AM

I don't believe for a second that the Queen went to them. People come to her not vice versa. Also, higher probability of cameras and recording devices at Frogmore which is the diabolical duo's domain and they control. Fox News guy is full of it.

by Anonymousreply 302June 17, 2022 10:50 AM

On top of it all the old girl isn't exactly spry these days. It would be a monumental act of selfishness to make her come to them.

Hey, wait a minute....

Nah, a good liar thinks it through first.

by Anonymousreply 303June 17, 2022 12:10 PM

No way will the family allow the Harkles to go to Balmoral with no other family members present.

by Anonymousreply 304June 17, 2022 1:01 PM

I get that the Harkles wanted to the money shot with the two Lilibets, but now that that's off the table, it would seem more prudent for a solo Harry to make a visit to Chuck & Cam with the kids in tow (surely they've got a nanny to tag along if Haz can't handle it). For better or worse, the road to get back in the good graces - or at least be on polite terms with the BRF is through Charles, not QEII anymore

by Anonymousreply 305June 17, 2022 1:08 PM

I can't help but think Harry will end up back in the UK.

I'm probably projecting my attitude on him too much -- and I'm an American, so I'm used to it, but I just cant imagine an aristocrat from England, from the Royal Family no less, fitting in in SoCal. Or really anywhere in the US, but I guess if he fit anywhere, it might be New York City? (a quick hop from London so he could meet up with old pals more easily)

Hollywood is... just not a place to settle in if you're someone like him.

Her, sure. The place is full of her ilk.

by Anonymousreply 306June 17, 2022 1:23 PM

No point trying a rapprochement with the BRF till after the 'explosive' book is out, as they won't agree anything till they see that. I wonder how much this is still in Harry's control?

by Anonymousreply 307June 17, 2022 1:34 PM

Neil Sean knows absolutely nothing. He pulls a few threads from other stories and fills it in with whatever he thinks will sound like real tea. No one inside talks to Sean or RIver or anyone like that.

It's nothing more than a rumour based on a good guess: as it was obvious the Palace was determined to keep the Harry and Meghan from obtaining material with the only royals who material that they could use to burnish their own royal creds with Netflix and the media, it's hardly a stretch that IF a photo WERE taken, it would be by the Palace and owned by the Palace.

It's amazing to me that people put credence in shit like this without a moment of logical thought.

This isn't tea: it's assumptions based on stuff we could all have figured out dressed up as real insider info.

by Anonymousreply 308June 17, 2022 1:37 PM

R308 That’s all that’s required for the US market.

by Anonymousreply 309June 17, 2022 1:37 PM

Oh god I forgot about his book - that keeps being rejected by Penguin or whoever because it's not good enough (I read: not juicy enough)

Maybe the only place for him will be that wildlife preserve in Africa he talked about. Like a really stupid Dr Livingstone I presume...

Good points about Sean, River, even Lady C, who the news keeps quoting. She was wrong about Harry and Meghan ever being scheduled on that "bus" - way too much chance of them being able to lie about what they heard on that bus.

But wheels of the media bus will keep going round and round... with Meghan's PR team at the steering wheel -- who is it? Sunshine Sacks (is that a person or a company?) and Mr Scobie? Britain probably never thought it would have its own Kardashians, but here we are. Though I guess there's Katie Price - Jimmy Savile - Oscar Wilde - the king and Wallis - hell, maybe they invented this sort of thing

by Anonymousreply 310June 17, 2022 1:42 PM

R300 - Really? You're surprised? You mean, so that Harry and Meghan could use it for their own purposes? What a shock.

Harry and Meghan didn't even deign to head up to Balmoral for a courtesy visit three months after the Queen threw them a 30 million pound wedding on the backs of the UK taxpayers.

Harry has spent every summer of his life at Balmoral. Meghan comes along, and he hasn't been up there since, including when he was still a "working" royal.

Why the fuck would they go up there now?! It's not as if Meghan is interested in following the protocol up there, with three dress changes a day, long walks and picnics in the heather, and a staff that wouldn't spit on her if she were on fire?!

The media, desperate to keep the Windsor-Sussex story going, is grasping at straws.

After what happened at St Paul's, the Sussexes know they are done. Meghan would as soon head to Mariupol as Balmoral for vacay. Yeah, they're going to fly in another private jet 5,000 miles for another two-day visit with HM in hopes of, what? Another photograph they won't get?

With their usual lack of ability to see more than two moves ahead, the Harkles missed every opportunity to keep doors open.

Meghan started insulating Harry from his family the minute the engagement ring was on. That they refused a very likely invite up to Balmoral right after the wedding was one of the many red flags the two ran up the pole from the start: We Want The Bennies We Don't Want The Obligations, Fuck You.

And now they're shocked and "furious" at the welcome they didn't get when they went back.

You couldn't make it up.

by Anonymousreply 311June 17, 2022 1:44 PM

I think they are getting desperate. Netflix and Spotify aren't panning out, Travelyst and Better Up don't seem to be going anywhere, her book flopped, a Hollywood exec said they were toxic, their humanitarian efforts just seem to enrage people, and no one wants to work with them. I think they may try to cobble a deal where it's just Harry, flying back and forth to the UK. Clearly MM will never be accepted again, by the family or the public.

by Anonymousreply 312June 17, 2022 1:58 PM

R312 Do you think Harry would be accepted again by the British public? That isn't the impression I get.

by Anonymousreply 313June 17, 2022 2:15 PM

I do, actually, but only separate from Meghan. People liked Harry for a long time before they turned against him.

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by Anonymousreply 314June 17, 2022 2:20 PM

Surely he can't be happy with her. Just going on one thing: the way she guides him around with her hand on his back, and grabs his arm to pull him away from people that he's started a friendly conversation with or when he starts talking and she wants him to shut up... Who could be happy being treated that way? And in public, in front of other people, being made to look like a wimp and a fool.

by Anonymousreply 315June 17, 2022 2:24 PM

Yes, Harry is as happy as he can be with his wife and children. I laughed at the suggestion Haz take the sprogs to Charles alone -- it won't happen. Neil Sean is the biggest lying frau out there, and that's saying sonething with whiny River and Campbell cashing in.

by Anonymousreply 316June 17, 2022 3:22 PM

Daily Beast today had an interview with Sandra Garza, the partner of Brian Sicknick, the Capitol Policeman who died. She said after Sicknick's death she received a heartfelt condolence letter from Prince William. She never received anything from Trump.

by Anonymousreply 317June 17, 2022 3:29 PM

When I began reading r317, I thought it was a mispost meant for the Jan 6 Hearings thread...

Wow, that is incredibly thoughtful of William/KP. He didn't have to do it. That either he or his staff, in a different country, even thought of it is remarkable. Very Diana.

Seems like William got his mother's best qualities and Harry the worst. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he's undergone extensive therapy given the wholly inappropriate role he played as his mother's confidant, sounding board, and support. He seems to have learned not to feed into dysfunction.

by Anonymousreply 318June 17, 2022 4:34 PM

I think it was an awful way to treat them. Harry IS their family. Because they are royalty they seem to think they are better and above everyone else. They aren't. They are just people born into privilege. Leaving Andrew out of things because of what he did was right but treating Harry and Meghan like they are just peons isn't right.

by Anonymousreply 319June 17, 2022 4:38 PM

Thing is, you insinuate to the whole planet that your family is racist, don't be surprised if you get a collective "fuck you" in return.

by Anonymousreply 320June 17, 2022 4:42 PM

Those “peons” told vile lies about Harry’s family in an interview shown around the world. A inconvenient fact you seem to “forget”. Try harder Harkle PR.

by Anonymousreply 321June 17, 2022 4:42 PM

William has also spent 20 years - half his life - as part of a close, normal family, the Middletons. They really are there for each other. Eg, despite her busy life, Kate went with her brother to his therapy sessions. Now all three children will be living a short distance from the parents. That's William's private world.

Harry got the Markles.

by Anonymousreply 322June 17, 2022 4:43 PM

R310, Sunshine Sacks is a giant PR firm. (“Sunshine” is the last name of one of its partners; that must be a Americanized version of a German surname).

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by Anonymousreply 323June 17, 2022 4:52 PM

R319 They didn't treat them like "peons". They treated them like the nonworking, traitorous royals they are. They trashed the family and she stillnlefy them their titles.

Princess Anne's mids are family, too. Did you them on that balcony. Did you see Prince Edward's kids on that balcony? They are the Queen's grandchildren, too, not her great-grandchildren, so even closer.

Harry and Meghan bailed, kept the titles, betrayed the Queen's trust, and broke the agreement they made not to commercialise their titles. She did all of 78 days' work all told.

And you expected them to get the same treatment the heavy hitters did?

They were lucky to be invited at all.

You want top tier standing, you don't trash the people holding the cards.

And by the way, what Harry did is still on the books as High Treason.

Harry was still telling lies about his relationship with the Queen after the Invictus Games on national television.

They deserve nothing. "Family" comes with obligations. You ditch the obligations, you ditch the privileges.

Harry and Meghan went after the Queen.

400 years ago their heads would be on pikes above Tower Bridge.

by Anonymousreply 324June 17, 2022 5:03 PM

The surname is "Sonnenschein." I once knew a "Herbert Sunshine" (legal name) a sweet senior citizen his name befit his disposition. He said that when his father came through Ellis Island, the immigration official processing him couldn't understand or spell the last name and went with sunshine.

by Anonymousreply 325June 17, 2022 5:10 PM

r319, He was treated as his cousins were.None of them represent the Queen nor does he. The Queen's cousins took precedence on this occassion as they do on many others. They hold senior family orders and military honours and continue to serve. Besides that , I thought he was preaching equity nowadays?

by Anonymousreply 326June 17, 2022 5:47 PM

Harry/meg fan forgets peon is an American racist word that hasn't travelled. Do better r319

by Anonymousreply 327June 17, 2022 5:55 PM

r319 What on earth is terrible about sitting on the second row at a family event particularly a working family event? Seriously that's your barometer for suffering and mistreatment. What about the mistreatment the Harkles dished out to their family especially just before and after Prince Philip died? All of this we can treat others how we like with impunity but anyone dare have red lines of their own about how they are treated or anyone dare not dance to their tune and its an outrage , its mistreatment etc is very much in line with being spoilt and or having a personality disorder. Why do you think the royals can't have terms and conditions like the rest of us in relation to family members who mistreat them?? The Harkles can get precious about everything and anything and that's OK but don't anyone else dare have their own expectations and reactions. Very unhealthy mindset. Victim mode addiction.

by Anonymousreply 328June 17, 2022 5:58 PM

Peon is a racist word? New to me.

by Anonymousreply 329June 17, 2022 6:02 PM

ok.It's not a common word beyond the US , and there mainly used for non white people. I won't argue further as it's way off topic.

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by Anonymousreply 330June 17, 2022 6:18 PM

The end for the Harkles and the Royal Family came not when they lied to Oprah, but when Meghan ran to Gayle King to leak a private conversation. That was it.

by Anonymousreply 331June 17, 2022 6:58 PM

R329 it's an insult used against Mexican-Americans, like 'wetback'

by Anonymousreply 332June 17, 2022 7:11 PM

Harry and Meghan are just nobodies. Insignificant on the world stage because they have nothing of value to offer anyone. They are akin to the tonsils of the human anatomy, no real discernible use and just as easily done without. Useless, grasping, and low-functioning. They believe they are entitled to adulation despite bringing nothing to the table. I could go on....

by Anonymousreply 333June 17, 2022 7:32 PM

There's NO WAY Harry would ever be welcome again in the UK after what he did. People have long memories and don't like being slated as racists. Even if he divorced, he would never be welcomed back. Besides, he can't come anyway unless he disowns his kids, because Meghan will do everything she can to stop him having a relationship with them once divorced.

by Anonymousreply 334June 17, 2022 10:55 PM

"but treating Harry and Meghan like they are just peons isn't right."

But Harry and Meg weren't treated like peons, they were treated like royal family members who were out of the top-tier, which is exactly what they chose to be.

They were also treated like ex-employees of a family business. Say you have a family shoe company, and the son who was supposed to move into a major role left to be a layabout, but kept demanding full benefits and a company car, and there was nobody to take the job he was supposed to take but a dimwit cousin who really aspired to be a housewife. And that his bitch wife both trash-talked the company on social media and put security-compromising secrets up there. And that he wouldn't let anyone in his family see his children unless he got the financial concessions he was after, and that he was a twat who thought that being born into a good job and a tight-knit family was a tragic fate. You think that guy would be greeted warmly at the company picnic, and invited to join the business power players when they stepped aside for beer and decision-making?

by Anonymousreply 335June 18, 2022 1:06 AM

I agree with everything you've said, R335, but you need to add that the son and his wife went on TV to trash the company and accuse them of doing the things that their culture considers amongst the worst you could do to someone. Make his wife suicidal, prevent her from getting care for it and oh, also being racist. And also, this company has to be specifically dependent on the good will of the public.

by Anonymousreply 336June 18, 2022 1:22 AM

[quote]They are akin to the tonsils of the human anatomy, no real discernible use and just as easily done without.

The world needs a Harkle-ectomy!

by Anonymousreply 337June 18, 2022 1:30 AM

You forgot that the family also kept the wife prisoner by taking her passport and driver's license away.

by Anonymousreply 338June 18, 2022 2:01 AM

And what was Harry's crap about "generational pain" - I think implying the Queen was cold to Charles so he was damaged and thus, treated Diana badly, and thus, all that pain and suffering was passed down to Harry (and William) - and he said they were all trapped and wanted to escape! (or maybe that was just him and William?) Putting words in their mouth that could even contribute to the fall of the monarchy. I mean, if he's to be believed, someone needs to set William (and maybe Charles as well) FREE as quickly as possible. Get them to a mansion in Montecito so they can be free and happy, like, uh, Haz. Yeah right.

by Anonymousreply 339June 18, 2022 3:43 AM

Huh? R309? Since when has the U.S. market paid them any attention? They have been ignored by the American public from the day they arrived.

by Anonymousreply 340June 18, 2022 3:45 AM

[quote]You forgot that the family also kept the wife prisoner by taking her passport and driver's license away.

Yet she was able to make multiple and frequent trips overseas during the period her passport was supposedly taken away from her.

by Anonymousreply 341June 18, 2022 4:54 AM

None of the senior royals keep passports, licences, etc., around, as we do. They represent a security risk if they fell into the wrong hands. They're kept by staff like the jewellery and then brought out at need. You think Kate keeps her passport in the desk drawer or the night table like thecrest of us?

Meghan made 13 trips abroad during the period in which she implied she was The Prisoner of Zenda.

Including to that OTT baby shower at The Mark Hotel in Manhattan, the US Open in New York, and Elton John's luxury summer vacay spot in the Mediterranean.

Meghan is a pathological liar, just like Diana was.

by Anonymousreply 342June 18, 2022 10:31 AM

Exactly, R342. She lies as a hobby. It's that NPD again - they're stuck, emotionally, at about 3 years old. I guess Harry is too but I always thought better of him - maybe he's stuck at about 7 so has 'some' restraint. Like he didn't want her go to Uvalde, allegedly.

by Anonymousreply 343June 18, 2022 3:03 PM

After quitting his job and promptly demanding security perks/endless funding, Harry then moaned that being an unprepared dumbass was William"s fault. The 37yo fully grown man expected bro and daddy to make his life plans for him.

by Anonymousreply 344June 18, 2022 3:09 PM

[quote] Harry/meg fan forgets peon is an American racist word

R327 R330 Peon is used in Chile and Argentina, to signify a day laborer/unskilled worker.

by Anonymousreply 345June 18, 2022 3:24 PM

R345 which is classist at the least

by Anonymousreply 346June 18, 2022 4:45 PM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 347June 18, 2022 5:26 PM

A Labour MP was on Have I Got News For You. Despite being a Labourite she said she liked Camilla Parker-Bowles. She said she and her son got invited to Clarence House before she became an MP, to receive an award for community service. Her young son was going around picking up items and noting that under them were notes like "a gift of the King of Belgium" or "a gift from the President of the US". He said rather loudly "they don't buy anything!" Camilla overheard him and said "if we don't like it, we chuck them into the bushes in the garden. You can go on a treasure hunt there if you'd like."

by Anonymousreply 348June 18, 2022 5:35 PM

Peon is NOT an American racist word. Peon refers to any low ranking worker as in "HR is allowing us peons to have an extra day off"-think Ginny in Billing.

by Anonymousreply 349June 18, 2022 5:45 PM

R347 She’s very squat. Literally turning into Doria. He looks “special.”

by Anonymousreply 350June 18, 2022 5:52 PM

I think Delfina may be the one to bring Meggy Sharp down.

First Meggy cupped Nacho's face in her hand when she was kissing/congratulating him when she bumped all the other wives off the stage.

Then Delfina posted that unflattering photo of Meggy at the backyard picnic.

Then Delfina posted a photo of her hugging all over Halfwit Haz.

Now Meggy is again kissing and caressing Nacho;s face.

Game on!

by Anonymousreply 351June 18, 2022 6:53 PM

I'm astounded that Meggie doesn't take over coaching Haz's polo team as she appears so be an expert at just about everything.

by Anonymousreply 352June 18, 2022 7:34 PM

I predict a name change for DL one day, it will be

THE HARRY AND MEGHAN LOUNGE.

by Anonymousreply 353June 18, 2022 7:37 PM

r353 Doubtful- Especially if you and others start enough threads of your own on other topics to create interesting variety.

by Anonymousreply 354June 18, 2022 11:53 PM

The Palace Investigation into Meghan allegedly bullying staff has been buried by the Palace according to people involved with it.

This caught my eye: "After the allegations emerged, including claims that young members of staff were “broken” and reduced to tears by Meghan’s behaviour, a royal source said: “The actual worst incidences haven’t come out. There are some harrowing stories to tell.” Another palace source said: “There’s a lot that could come out in the wash that hasn’t been told.”

Here's my hunch, the Palace is burying the report knowing that former Sussex staff are eventually going to leak and/or speak about it to the press anyways. By saying nothing, the Palace is allowing other people to sling mud at H&M so they can't be accused of sparring with Meghan publicly. Unfair to the people who were bullied by Megz but a smart move I think.

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by Anonymousreply 355June 19, 2022 12:13 AM

Maybe they passed the info on to Tom Bowers.

by Anonymousreply 356June 19, 2022 12:35 AM

r355, if true, then one might speculate that the a trade-off was negotiated - Harry pulls his book from publication and the Palace drops its investigation in to Meghan's alleged bullying.

by Anonymousreply 357June 19, 2022 12:40 AM

Seems like a trade off, or maybe a threat unless they cool it with the lies…after Oprah the family is not messing around.

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by Anonymousreply 358June 19, 2022 1:53 AM

R358, yes, if it was actually “buried” there wouldn’t be an article announcing the existence of a completed report.

by Anonymousreply 359June 19, 2022 1:56 AM

OR...there is nothing to the bullying allegations

by Anonymousreply 360June 19, 2022 3:27 AM

According to Neil Sean (yeah I know... but he's better than River and Lady C, imo) -- he said the few staff that interated with Meghan at Frogmore over the Jubbly said she was like a different person - subdued, staying to herself, careful not to get on the wrong side of people. Also, in a different video than the one I linked, Neil says they left William a lovely birthday present: a vinyl record by one of his favorite bands. I'm sure that'll make everything ok.

And the Harkles should be grateful that Andrew is behaving like a prick over Williams saying either he stays away or I won't go - to that fancy dress party that he cares so much about: "Order of the Garter". Handbags at dawn I guess. (maybe they'll take off their garters and sling them at each other)

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by Anonymousreply 361June 19, 2022 3:52 AM

Here's my hunch:

Yes the report probably contains a ton of allegations of abusive/bullying behaviour by Meghan towards staff. Equally, it likely shows that the Palace's HR department was aware of the issue and did nothing to help staff, rather, their goal was likely to protect Meghan's reputation. By admitting that, the Palace would be opening a can of worms into how much shitty behaviour it allows members of the royal family to get away with.

That being said, the Palace is likely also aware the longer they go without saying anything, the more likely it is disgruntled former staff will leak to the press. The Palace won't have to deny the allegations against Meghan, rather, they can cite confidentiality issues as to why they cannot comment on their findings. So, they know more dirt will eventually get out about Meghan but they don't have to appear to be the ones firing the shots. Also, it gives the Palace some blackmailing power of their own to hold onto the report.

by Anonymousreply 362June 19, 2022 5:05 AM

minute 18:15 – Daily Mail video weekly royal wrapup – William is quoted as saying he has “moved on” from the row with Harry and the four journalists don’t think that means they’ve patched things up. They think it means that William is done with Harry – like Harry is “someone from William’s past” the male journo said. He’s “not part of the future and is almost irrelevant and we saw that in a pretty stark way in the Jubilee celebrations”

Probably a rag, but I saw another video that said Harry and Meghan are broke, $480,000 in credit card debt, and they asked Charles for a loan and he said no. Like footloose teenagers on a lark to California - and now begging daddy to send lawyers, guns and money (copyright Warren Zevon).... wait, it's the US, so there's already plenty of guns.

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by Anonymousreply 363June 19, 2022 5:37 AM

Why should the report be made public? It's not part of some public campaign against Meghan. It's a chance for employees to say what happened to them and to find ways to avoid such incidents in the future.

by Anonymousreply 364June 19, 2022 6:01 AM

[quote] ...but I saw another video that said Harry and Meghan are broke, $480,000 in credit card debt,

This would not surprise me at all.

Given the extravagant house/estate, security, constant PR costs, lawyers for lawsuits, private planes, etc. they must be spending a lot of money.

Funny, though, I thought there were reports that Harry was cheap (given his having his girlfriend pay for her own air fare to go to a wedding accompanying Harry).

by Anonymousreply 365June 19, 2022 6:09 AM

I think there are two possible reasons for holding back the report, already cited below - the palace has completed its investigation and has all the information, and is holding it in reserve either to keep the Sussexes in check or flatten them in retaliation if need be.

Two, the report likely shows the palace was aware of MM's behaviour, and they did nothing to curb it or protect the employees. It is known that the Sussexes lost the chance to have the 21 room apartment next to the Cambs as a result of the bullying allegations.

by Anonymousreply 366June 19, 2022 6:15 AM

R365 - link to the 5 minute video quoting an article in "Woman's Day" magazine (about their debt, asking Charles for a loan, etc.)

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by Anonymousreply 367June 19, 2022 6:29 AM

“Sussexes’s”.

For fuck’s sake can people learn how to spell?

by Anonymousreply 368June 19, 2022 7:17 AM

"Probably a rag, but I saw another video that said Harry and Meghan are broke, $480,000 in credit card debt"

They really do seem to be stupid enough to think that if they spend everything they have, then Charles will HAVE to bail them out.

Maybe it's true, but with all the bad publicity and William's hardass attitude, he'll stall for an uncomfortably long time and demand concessions before forking over less cash than they want. And they'll probably break whatever agreement was made, which will make future negotiations that much harder. Those two really do NOT know how to play a long game.

by Anonymousreply 369June 19, 2022 7:42 AM

I really think everything has collapsed for the Sussexes. They are in debt and their deals have either failed or fallen through. It was reported that MM was completely subdued during the Jubilee visit. But they left because the boos from the public and being publicly iced out by the family showed them further public appearances now could only get worse. I'm convinced they are trying to come back.

Good luck with that...

by Anonymousreply 370June 19, 2022 7:59 AM

It is my opinion that Harry married this nobody because he desperately wanted out of the royal family, she promised to help him make a new life far away, and to support him in princely style through merching and social media. And I don't think she was lying! I think she believed it was easy!

From where she was on the D-list, she could see all the side hacks that A-listers have, how designers pay them to wear fabulous red carpet gowns, they get advertising contracts and get paid for putting their names on fashion lines, they moneitize the hell out of social media, etc., and I'm sure that she thought that once she married her way onto the A-list, all she'd have to do was hire a few people and the money would just roll in! She just didn't realize you have to be popular with the public for all those sources of income to work, and that there's a difference between being famous, and being popular.

by Anonymousreply 371June 19, 2022 9:35 AM

There was some chance it might come true, R371, starting with the £50,000 dress she wore for her engagement photo. All those ill-fitting designer clothes she wore at the first engagements were clearly loans or samples.

But the outrageous behaviour of her family - the published letter of warning from her brother was incredible - and the fact that only her mother was at the wedding was the beginning of the end.

by Anonymousreply 372June 19, 2022 9:48 AM

R362 is likely spot on. I mean even in bullying situations in the corporate world, any investigations/HR intervention is about protecting the company and at that time, Megs would've been considered part of the "the company." But because when it rains it pours, it's only a matter of time before those stories are leaked through some other means, though I doubt will really learn much more that we didn't already know about how mean & imperious Megs can be & the lengths Harry will go to to make She Beast happy.

If a way back is really what they want (and who honestly knows), it was a mistake to leave early. They should've grimaced & sat in their cheap seats, absorbed the boos and behaved themselves instead of leaving in a huff. Even though though certainly wouldn't be forgiven, at least it gives the impression that they are willing to try and be team players. As others have aptly noted, Megs was probably for biting the bullet & getting through the weekend while Harry wanted to leave in a huff.

I'm predicting now they'll be separated by Christmas & quite possibly sooner.

by Anonymousreply 373June 19, 2022 10:19 AM

On the contrary, I think it unlikely that burying the report means they didn't find anything; it means that the report confirmed the bullying AND the Palace's willingness to throw staff to the wolves rather than poke the Sussex hornet's nest. No one comes out looking good.

But see how clever the Palace is being here? They've taken a leaf out of Meghan's book: by leaking that the report has been, buried, they confirm in the public mind that there's "something in it", just the way Meghan, by refusing to name the alleged "royal racist", tarred all the senior royals with the same vague suspicion.

And, the Palace's "leak", which is what I think it was, serves another purpose: while the desire to stop feeding the great Windsor v. Sussex fued publicly is probably genuine, the message to the Sussexes is, Fuck around with Us again, I e., in any more interviews or your little memoir, and that report will be, regrettably, leaked.

The Palace can hold that report over the Sussex's heads now, like Ye Olde Sword of Damocles.

And I would further guess that a quid pro quo was part of the planned leak about burying the report, on just those terms made privately to the Sussexes

This, of course, means Harry's tell-all will be transformed into "tell as little as possible so as not to piss off the Palace further".

I would guess the Sussexes have also, finally, realised that the Duke of Windsor was right: the Crown always wins in the end.

They probably also tired, finally realise they too ave to move on, as well.

Their problem will be what to sell now that they can't sell their victimisation by the Big Bad Palace.

And I doubt Netflix is particularly thrilled, either. Nor are Harry's publishers.

As for Bower's book: NDAs are likely in place for the primary recipients of Meghan's vicious treatment, so unless the Palace is really playing a double game and released them from the NDAs with one hand whilst burying the report with the other, I don't see people still employed by the Palace breaking their NDAs and payoffs.

It's the relatives and friends of Meghan's victims who are not under NDAs and not under the Palace's control who might have talked to Bower.

Either way, this mud is going to cling to Meghan. The public will assume the nasty was yet again swept under the rug by the Palace.

Not that there was no nasty to bury.

by Anonymousreply 374June 19, 2022 10:58 AM

R367 Take nothing Woman's Day says seriously. They make stiff up out of whole cloth.

I don't doubt things haven't gone the way the Sussexes assumed they would od financially, and they have to reconsider their position. But if Harry has even half his trust fund left, it's a a great deal of money. All they need to do is sell the house, downsize, stop the moronic, hugely expensive lawsuits, and set Meghan up on some sort of QVC business.

But downsizing the house, parking down the ridiculous number of people they're paying to front that failed little foundation, is the place to start. And then move on from there.

I would guess that neither of them have changed at all inside. Her truly offensive visit to Uvalde, and Harry, as recently as May, talking about protecting the Queen and making sure she has the right kind of people around her, make that clear.

But they probably have absorbed the fact that they've lost the public, lost not only William and Charles, but to some extent, the Queen, the monarchy won this battle, and they are left on thin ice.

I have to give the Queen credit for her savvy handling of the Sussex "problem".

The Jubly was the coup de grace, and use of the word "burying" to refer to the bullying report was all too apt a signal re where the monarchy now stands vis-a-vis the Sussexes.

by Anonymousreply 375June 19, 2022 11:42 AM

The lack of Meghan's family at the wedding will never not be weird. No-one was expecting her to ask the half-siblings and her father had a stroke. However, there's a Markle uncle who had helped her professionally and never publicly said anything about her - he could have walked her down the aisle and his family occupied a pew. There are first cousins on Doria's side who again have never spoken negatively about her. She may not know them terribly well, but she would know them better than most of her guest list. She could have produced a dozen or more relatives, if she wanted to.

by Anonymousreply 376June 19, 2022 11:53 AM

She was trying to merch that pinky ring in the window - I wonder if that was related to money troubles (or just greed). Very tacky, and it made for a bit of a challenge to make sure she got the ring in shot by a (her?) camerman -- for one of her very few Jubbly appearances.

Though Harry put his ugly mug in the window shushing children too. WTF? I guess that was to take attention off her merching? Or he was jealous and wanted in on that fabulous attention, at the little window, in the children's room. (j/k but maybe not really)

And why in god's name would she wear another belted white dress (St Paul's) after the negative reaction to the belted white jacket that she wore at Invictus? Why would Dior let her - wouldn't they be involved in the selection/transaction?

She left Invictus before the end: it looked like cutting and running after the ugly pix came out in the DM because when has Meghan turned down the chance to get more publicity? That's why I think it may have been her idea to take off in the middle of the Jubbly, after finding out they were in the cheap seats. But of course, it could have been because of Harry's famous temper.

Falling off his horse and losing that semi-final seems a perfect denouement to these creeps' story - like William, the world may be ready to move on. (much to the delight of certain DL gatekeepers, but after Amber and Meghan fade away, who will we gossip about? Caitlin again?

by Anonymousreply 377June 19, 2022 12:12 PM

Don't worry. Some other jackasses will pop up. Or we could go for awhile without consuming garbage.

by Anonymousreply 378June 19, 2022 1:07 PM

R377 Oh, the BRF will still be affording plenty of material for gossip. Remember, the Queen is on her way out, there will be all the issues surrounding Charles' coronation and reign, and the increasing rise of the Cambridges and William's instatement as Prince of Wales.

The Sussexes won't be gone, they have to craft a new path, maybe Harry will give up his now useless title. The media will keep stirring the pot - will they or won't they come to the funeral and coronation?

The Bower book, Harry's book (Meghan is writing one, too, isn't she?), the potential for the Sussex separation and divorce, as Meghan carefully and slowly over the next few years disengages from Harry, whom she will blame for the failure to obtain the outcome she wanted, etc., ad nauseam ad infinitum.

by Anonymousreply 379June 19, 2022 1:30 PM

The only thing Meghan and Harry were merching in that window photo was their own presence in the bosom of the BRF. No one cares about her pinky ring, and she's been wearing it for some time.

Personally, I think an emerald-cut diamond of that size on a pinky is an absurd look more appropriate to a prize fighter, but, hey, that's just me.

They wanted to make sure that everyone saw that they were there. Just like her rolling down the bullet-proof window of the limo to make it look like she was smiling back at cheering crowds.

by Anonymousreply 380June 19, 2022 1:33 PM

For those who can't get enough of the "Fabulous Markle Twins".

"When Prince Charles, Harry’s father, passed by the row that Harry and Meghan were sitting in with Princesses Eugenie and Beatrice at the Queen’s Thanksgiving ceremony, the almost-king was photographed “looking away” from them, although he clearly found the range of motion to blow Kate Middleton a kiss at some point."

Ouch! lmao

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by Anonymousreply 381June 19, 2022 1:48 PM

Why do they think selling books is lucrative? It seems they’re making poor financial decisions about their future earnings. Podcasts are meh, and how many reality shows, er documentaries can you make with no drama? To me speaking engagements are a better use of their time, and are more lucrative. Hah no one on DL would attend, but I’m sure there’s a market for them.

Harry could also learn to flip houses. 🤣🤣🤣

by Anonymousreply 382June 19, 2022 1:57 PM

Oh how delicious.

And somebody did a video they showed over and over -- when Kate came down the aisle, Meghan made a point to look away -- that white hat turning to an extreme left as Kate passed by on the right. Burn! She's got a lifetime of hearing about/watching Kate get all the attention she thought she had nabbed when she nabbed the ginger nutjob.

And I heard that Meghan's book was supposed to be a lifestyle/self-improvement sort of thing. Can you imagine having Megs as a "life coach" - you too could live the glamorous, healthy, happy life that she does - and for only $29.99, you can read her book and find out how!

by Anonymousreply 383June 19, 2022 1:57 PM

[quote] The lack of Meghan's family at the wedding will never not be weird.

Megs had spun the operative fiction going in that she didn't have a family, ergo Ginger's declaration "we'll be the family she never had". Then her uncle and cousins show up at the wedding? Huh? Megs has a variety of half/full uncles, aunts and cousins from her maternal grandparents multiple marriages. But, like Doria, she has cut them out of her life just as she has cut out everyone else from whom she does not profit.

by Anonymousreply 384June 19, 2022 2:01 PM

I’m reading Kitty Kelley’s book the Royals (super dishy) and I’ve been thinking how lucky for the BRF that they didn’t have to worry about Social Media during all those previous scandals. There would be no monarchy now.

by Anonymousreply 385June 19, 2022 2:35 PM

The Sussex troll farm has got Meghan trending on twitter again, something - as usual - about the Royal family being mean to her and Kate being a bitch. Is this the same troll farm that was going bonkers over the Depp/Heard trial? It's totally unbelievable that people create twitter accounts just to defend Meghan. Beyond bizarre. Do they think trending on twitter is winning or something?

by Anonymousreply 386June 19, 2022 3:54 PM

Why on earth would they think Charles would want to give them money?

Wondering if the bullying report is why Harry looked so stricken during that pre-Invictus meeting? He may have been warned if his book had any scandal then the report would be leaked. That would explain the book delay if he has been compelled to tone it down. Guess we can add his publisher to the list of people not happy with them, along with Netflix and Spotify. And at this point, would anyone really want a book by Meghan of all people?

by Anonymousreply 387June 19, 2022 5:14 PM

I can't believe some of the absolutely made up bullshit you old cunts fall for.

by Anonymousreply 388June 19, 2022 5:18 PM

This is a shot over the bow. If the Harkles keep stirring shit, it'll be released.

by Anonymousreply 389June 19, 2022 7:58 PM

No it won't, fraulein. Employees are legally protected.

by Anonymousreply 390June 19, 2022 8:30 PM

The palace fucked up and let down their employees . HR was maybe intimidated, who knows. The enquiry will be looking into faults in that regard. It was never intended as an expose of bad behaviour on the part of the royals. The press want details of course, but staff identities need protecting and it won't happen.

by Anonymousreply 391June 19, 2022 8:43 PM

The Palace always intimated that it was for internal purposes only.

But it still serves its dual purpose as a self-regulatory instrument for the future of its HR department, AND . . .

Something it has in the vault that it could somewhat carelessly allow to fall into the wrong hands, should circumstances warrant.

Show of hands . . .

by Anonymousreply 392June 19, 2022 8:53 PM

How dare you bar my camera crew from filming a documentary that is all about ME on the day of your celebration!?

And how dare you refuse to take a picture with MY daughter your great-grandchild (who wouldn't even be here if it weren't for ME) so that I can sell it to multiple outlets for tens of millions of dollars!?

I AM THE BEST THING THAT HAS EVER HAPPENED TO YOU AND YOUR COUNTRY! RACISTS! ALL OF YOU!!!!

by Anonymousreply 393June 19, 2022 9:45 PM

“Instatement”, R379? Really?

by Anonymousreply 394June 19, 2022 10:07 PM

Come lick my pussy, my LSA cultist whores!

by Anonymousreply 395June 19, 2022 10:13 PM

If the report about Meg "bullying" the palace staff is ever released, the royal family themselves will be completely left out of it. The report will say that the people who failed to protect staffers from the bullying are low-level managers, the sort of people who won't be missed after they're thrown to the wolves.

Which meant that the only gossip-worthy people mentioned in the report will be Meg and Harry themselves, and that makes it a very useful tool in the ongoing royal feud.

by Anonymousreply 396June 19, 2022 10:26 PM

Sussex Squad thinks the palace is lying because they won't name names. Meghan wants names named so that she send her armies on Twitter and elsewhere to attack.

by Anonymousreply 397June 19, 2022 10:31 PM

All Harry seems to do now is hire private jets, playing polo a game for billionaires. If he's allegedly a serious, first-class polo player, he wouldn't be playing in Santa Barbara - and losing to nonentity teams. Must be humiliating for him.

He can't be living off Nacho who is only worth $30 million, chickenfeed by the standards Harry and Meghan aspire to. So Nacho is using Harry to get attention. Being an aging polo player is not a career. He's exploiting Harry as much as Harry may appear to exploit him (I assume Harry can't afford a string of polo ponies and all the staff, upkeep they require so Nacho must be loaning him a horse). Two aging, fading stars looking for a last hurrah.

by Anonymousreply 398June 19, 2022 10:55 PM

It’s not a challenge to see where Harry gets his PJs

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by Anonymousreply 399June 19, 2022 11:20 PM

I'm just going to put my post from the other royal thread here, re the Squad and Twitter:

no matter what the Palace does, the Squad will scream UNFAIR! If they release the report and it DOES support the story that HR ignored staff complaints with a basis in reality, it smears Meghan. If the Palace don't release the report, the Squad screams that it's because the investigation didn't find that Meghan bullied anyone, and the withholding of the report smears Meghan.

The Squad won't accept that the LEAST likely scenario is that all those staffers were lying wimps whose whingeing HR was perfectly right to ignore, and that Jason Knauf's published email of concern to HR was an assassination attempt.

The one outcome the Squad insists on believing is the least likely one, especially given Knauf's email as part of a court record, and the ongoing turnover in staff at Archewell. Fuck, they lost a prize like Catherine Saint Laurent in less than a year - it's been a revolving door.

The most likely scenario is that the report shows that the Palace didn't stand up for its staff because Meghan was now family/royal and they didn't want to upset the volatile nutcase that Harry is, which means that Meghan, indeed, made her staff's lives miserable.

The Squad, with its collective IQ of 70, doesn't seem to understand what the significance of Knauf's email, and that revolving door at their "foundation" really say: the Palace has done Meghan a favour.

But it can always change its mind and mislay the report so that, for example, it hits the desk of Valentine Low, of the TIMES (UK), who broke the bullying story, has stood by it, and whose paper also stood by it and refused to withdraw it. Low is a respected journalist for the nation's paper of record. As the TIMES asserted with the Lilibet name and Fiji Food Market fiasco stories, it triple checks all its royal material.

The Squad should be laying flowers at the gates of BP for doing Meghan a favour - because, in this instance, it's done itself a favour as well.

None of those people can think their way out of a paper bag. They probably worship at the Flat Earth Church.

by Anonymousreply 400June 19, 2022 11:42 PM

So glad that's sorted, so the iconic Harkles' iconic travel is tip top.

The blurb about iconic polo player Nachos is iconically cheesy.

by Anonymousreply 401June 20, 2022 12:31 AM

Well at least nacho is getting his profile raised, good for him?

by Anonymousreply 402June 20, 2022 12:33 AM

Nacho has a lot of multi-million dollar contracts on his own as one of the few, maybe the only, well-known star of his sport -- the David Beckham of polo.

A mutual, back scratching transactional relationship. Seems like Nacho or his sponsors are providing the cash for Harry's amusement. Not sure what they expect back from the loser prince , though.

by Anonymousreply 403June 20, 2022 1:41 AM

^ Sorry, forgot link.

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by Anonymousreply 404June 20, 2022 1:42 AM

Well, Nacho sure ain't hitching his wagon to a star. Harry falling off the Pony. The team now losing several times in a row. That cringe photo spread holding up the trophy that they didn't' win w. Meghan inserting herself. Lose, lose all around. Oh & hope that wasn't his private set gig that got trashed all over the paps for SJW Harkles using it to fly to Texas & then to London. Nacho's wife better start calling the shots if she is smarter than Nacho. Nope, Nacho hasn't hitched his wagon to a star. He's hitched it to a turd.

by Anonymousreply 405June 20, 2022 1:50 AM

I’ve got a NEW brother now!

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by Anonymousreply 406June 20, 2022 1:54 AM

Nacho expression in that photo on instagram shrieks desperation/hungry. Maybe those modeling jobs are drying up. Maybe he can read The Bench to some kids Can he juggle?.Delpjhina get hold of your Nacho. ASAP

by Anonymousreply 407June 20, 2022 1:58 AM

R396, the report won’t just be leverage over Harry with respect to his memoirs. It will also be justification as to why Harry and Meghan can never be “working royals” again: they were abusive to staff, they exposed the RF to damages, they drove staff away. They honestly cannot come back.

by Anonymousreply 408June 20, 2022 2:46 AM

Come on, the Sussexes are not the first or only members of the BRF who have treated staff badly. Andrew springs to mind and it is easy to imagine Pss Margaret treating staff as badly as she treated everyone else.

But times are changed and forelock tugging is no longer in fashion.

by Anonymousreply 409June 20, 2022 6:40 AM

Bowers book will have the bullying details. He's interviewed her former victims.

by Anonymousreply 410June 20, 2022 6:48 AM

Tell us more about your abuse fantasies, r409! More information, please!

To many of us commoners, the Royal Family itself would have been overjoyed by a Prince who tugged his own hair and noticed he's unusually blessed with attention from his own, loyal horsey types. Does Harry even have an understanding or RESPECT for those who run around and make themselves LOS PADRES?

It appears that the LOS PADRES team is fronted by Nacho, Harry, and the very young looking youngsters who were described as being 16 year olds in recent articles.

It was a front for Harry, of course. Everyone at that club KNOWS.

by Anonymousreply 411June 20, 2022 6:55 AM

To me talk of “bullying” always sounds so juvenile and silly. I always picture some crewcut kid named Sluggo going “Yeah, see?” I swear it was Andy Cohen who popularized the word in its current usage by making Kelly Bensimon and then all the housewives use it.

by Anonymousreply 412June 20, 2022 6:59 AM

But what if the entire polo team follows suit?

And, please, tell us more of your encounters and advantages with the newly constructed, "Los Padres* pony team.

TIA!

by Anonymousreply 413June 20, 2022 7:09 AM

I can't wait for Bower's book. He has supposedly dug up the dirt from years back.

by Anonymousreply 414June 20, 2022 7:14 AM

WTF, illiterate buffoon R411? Forelock tugging is done by obsequious peasants and servants to their betters or masters.

Clearly you are not British.

by Anonymousreply 415June 20, 2022 7:16 AM

[quote]overjoyed by a Prince who tugged his own hair

[Quote]WTF, illiterate buffoon [R411]? Forelock tugging is done by obsequious peasants and servants to their betters or masters. Clearly you are not British.

Are you capable of the most basic, capable reading, r415?

by Anonymousreply 416June 20, 2022 8:10 AM

R398, Delfina is a scion of something like the second-richest family in Argentina. Nacho is living off her.

by Anonymousreply 417June 20, 2022 10:17 AM

She'll crush Meghan under her very well heeled foot.

by Anonymousreply 418June 20, 2022 10:48 AM

Delfina is the most interesting character to come out of the latest chapter in the Sussex story. She’s kind of low-key, but she does seem to get herself photographed quite a bit.

Perhaps they did use some jet share to fly back and forth for the Jubly. If it was a merching or promotional consideration, they failed, because I have no idea which company it was. And it goes directly against their previous sermons about “sustainability”.

by Anonymousreply 419June 20, 2022 11:57 AM

Delfina is a random thirsty cunt with a similar husband, and not "the most interesting character" in any scenario.

by Anonymousreply 420June 20, 2022 12:02 PM

R415 forelock tugging, right from Merriam: British, disapproving. : to be too concerned with pleasing someone whom one thinks is powerful or important.

It might have started out as such, but has evolved.

by Anonymousreply 421June 20, 2022 1:57 PM

Hi Meghan!

by Anonymousreply 422June 20, 2022 2:03 PM

In the Telegraph article on the report, I saw Melissa Touabti's name for the first time. Everyone wondered if she would finally reveal what she'd been through with Meghan on that first tour.

Touabti was so badly treated by Meghan that Touabti tried to resign during the tour. The Palace begged her to wait till the tour was over, which Touabti did. When she resigned, the Palace issued a press release announcing her resignation and singing Touabti's praises to the skies; this was undoubtedly accompanied by a very nice payoff in return for her silence and a tough NDA. Obviously, Touabti was released from the NDA in order to cooperate with the investigation. If the rumours of how Touabti was treated by Meghan are even half-true, the Squad and Meghan should be grateful the report wasn't released.

The confidentiality of participants in an investigation like this must be respected, or employees everywhere will be afraid to speak up and cooperate in future. The Palace is completely right.

But, as noted repeatedly, if Touabti's statements alone ever somehow get out, Meghan will rue the day. No lawsuit would be of any help, because the report could be subpoenaed and all the statements published. As with the privacy lawsuit against ANL proved, Meghan's public image would take a beating worse than that of the privacy case, which showed her to be a perjurer. And, such a suit would open the door to countersuits by the people Meghan's lawsuit would try to expose.

The best thing for Meghan to do is let this story fade into oblivion as next week's headlines take over.

Especially now that she knows Touabti cooperated with the investigation.

by Anonymousreply 423June 20, 2022 2:44 PM

She'll distract us with her hot pants obviously.

by Anonymousreply 424June 20, 2022 2:53 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if Nacho time-shared his jet with Harry and Meghan, r399.

I can see why Nacho might need a private jet, but there was no reason for the Harkles to travel to London with one.

by Anonymousreply 425June 20, 2022 2:57 PM

Nacho time sounds fun to be honest.

by Anonymousreply 426June 20, 2022 3:18 PM

Some other names “Sussex Survivors Squad” (great name) were probably also interviewed. I wonder if Kate also participated as she was supposed to have been upset at Meghan’s treatment of Cambridge staff?

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by Anonymousreply 427June 20, 2022 6:26 PM

I enjoyed these four body language experts analyzing Harry's interview with Hoda at the Invictus Games.

Their conclusion: he's miserable, lying about how the talk went with the Queen, regrets leaving Engand and doesn't like living in America (remember when asked about Montecito, he mumbled, "It's my home for the time being."

Who says that if you move? Oh yes, now I live in Cleveland "for the time being" ??

He knows he's cooked his goose - will he just continue to live in relative misery, with the occasional prison release to play polo with one elderly star and some teenagers? How many more ponies will he kill? How many more times will he fall on his head?

by Anonymousreply 428June 20, 2022 10:45 PM

Dammit forgot the link - here it is

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by Anonymousreply 429June 20, 2022 10:45 PM

Nacho is a snack. O happy ponies.

by Anonymousreply 430June 20, 2022 11:06 PM

Nacho left school at 14. He and Harry have a lot in common. It's the rich wife who is Nacho's eminence grise but he's 45 and over the hill now. He probably needs publicity from Harry more than Harry needs him.

by Anonymousreply 431June 21, 2022 12:42 AM

South American horsemen are notorious pussyhounds and homewreckers on the equestrian circuits. It could be alleged that they even follow the money ....

by Anonymousreply 432June 21, 2022 12:47 AM

Those body language guys said Harry was trying to big himself up, probably because he feels disrespected and quite embarrassed about his lowly position. That's why he said the Queen could tell him things she wouldn't tell others; that he was the only one who could make her laugh; that he was in the best position to see that she had the right people around her; that his security was like so fucking important...

Sad.

by Anonymousreply 433June 21, 2022 12:47 AM

[Quote]Delfina is a random thirsty cunt

Not quite.

[Quote]Blaquier is the daughter of Argentine racing driver Delfina Frers and Eduardo Blaquier, a member of one of the wealthiest families in Argentina.[1] Her father's family owns Estancia La Concepción, a large estate in Argentina.[2]

by Anonymousreply 434June 21, 2022 12:52 AM

Oooo R432, dare I dream that Nacho and Megsy bump uglies?

Or better still, Harry and Delfina!! He's known for cheating on his girlfriends back in his good old days. As for her - probably him too, most narcissists / sociopaths cheat - it's a ego boost and a rush, and things have been pretty dreary for our dynamic duo.

by Anonymousreply 435June 21, 2022 12:52 AM

From Nacho to Harry? That is a step down. No, she’s toying with him to show her Alphaness.

by Anonymousreply 436June 21, 2022 1:35 AM

R435 - I proposed your first scenario in another thread (where we discussed the embarrassing awards presentation) and promptly got shot down. "He has so many better choices!" "She's too unattractive, not in his league." "She's too wide." etc. I can see Meghan flirting as a power play. And some straight guys will fuck unattractive women because the hole is available at the moment when nothing better is. (Former NFL superstar Joe Namath made a famous quote about it). And it's what Argentinian polo players are known for -- it's almost a running joke.

I think Delfina's reactions suggest she's aware that Meghan is the type to try to move in on her man. The real heroes instagram of the polo ponies when Meghan presented awards. A photo take from behind that emphasized Meghan's width. Being photographed hanging closely on Harry post-match.

by Anonymousreply 437June 21, 2022 1:46 AM

^I didn't mean to suggest Meghan is unattractive. (She has a pretty face if she lays off the bronzers). Just that some straight men lose their standards if it's easily available or there's nothing else around.

by Anonymousreply 438June 21, 2022 1:51 AM

Nacho isn't rich. Meghan isn't rich. No way two people mooching off their rich spouses would hook up.

by Anonymousreply 439June 21, 2022 2:51 AM

That picture at R406 has at least one Harry fan all verklempt.

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by Anonymousreply 440June 21, 2022 2:54 AM

Is this the thread about hot guys married to fat women?

by Anonymousreply 441June 21, 2022 3:21 AM

Meghan is quite unattractive though. Her face has never been anything close to pretty. Plus, there's the whole global laughingstock thing.

by Anonymousreply 442June 21, 2022 3:54 AM

R428 / R433 I love those Behavior Panel guys!

Yes, the "Queen tells him things she wouldn't tell others"! Lmao. When he said it, his voice went higher, and he got a littly coy. Fucking liar. She doesn't tell him shit. And he's making sure she has "the right people around her". Riiight.

They've got his number. I'd say he's not struggling for relevance, he's already irrelevant. He's ovah!

by Anonymousreply 443June 21, 2022 10:51 AM

That's poor Harry, crying behind them, while Meghan gets her paws all over Nacho. She's seen the pix with Harry hanging onto Delfina so here's her response. Harry is so fucked - not in a good way.

And to throw a tantrum after losing? Come on, Harry. You're embarrassing yourself more every day. Move home, get in Andrew's shadow or something, and go down the pub with your old friends. If you're humble and laugh about yourself, they'll have you back - you're a hoot! (but there won't be any fun in Cali for you - come on, wake up!)

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by Anonymousreply 444June 21, 2022 11:47 AM

re R406 & R440: What is it with Harry CONSTANTLY grabbing guys' knees? It's not the first time I've seen him do this.

Can we have some hot fanfic starring Nacho and Harry humping each other? Because judging by Harry's weird knee-grabbing thing, that sort of fanfic might not be that far away from the truth . . .

by Anonymousreply 445June 21, 2022 11:57 AM

R444, didn't she do some UN job in Argentina for a few weeks back when she was in college? She might have acquired a taste for Argentinian cock back then.

by Anonymousreply 446June 21, 2022 12:01 PM

Nope r446 that was some cheap internship her uncle got her,nothing to do with the UN. However she supposedly did run off with one after a couple of months the story goes.

by Anonymousreply 447June 21, 2022 12:13 PM

I think the knee grabbing is because he's so miserable and needs comfort and companionship. I would be he's used to having a circle of friends to hang out with and just be himself and have a laugh, some fun, a few one-night stands, just living it up.

Now he's stuck with.... her. And two babies. And her yelling at nannies, and his business "deals" in a right old mess.

Anyone who can do an intervention? Yeah, I know it's not William.

by Anonymousreply 448June 21, 2022 12:45 PM

* I would bet -- not I would be

And I keep repeating myself, but it's very hard to be happy in and around Los Angeles, if you're an outsider. The place is full of desperation and competition and side-eyeing if you're not keeping up with the cool kids, etc. London has its flaws but it's nothing like that.

by Anonymousreply 449June 21, 2022 12:47 PM

R44 The internship was a three-moth one in Argentina, for which Meghan failed the entrance exam. Her father's brother, who was high up in the Diplomatic Corps, called the Argentinian Ambassador, whom he knew, and pulled a few strings to get her into the internship, which, as they almost always are, would have consisted of hours at the copy machine and getting coffee. She built it up into some sort of important addition to her expertise in international relations. She mostly sunned herself and partied.

And, needless to say, the uncle who got her in didn't get an invite to the wedding.

That's Meghan to a T. The moment you are of no use to her, you cease to exist.

by Anonymousreply 450June 21, 2022 12:58 PM

I only lived their for a short time, so correct me if I'm wrong - but I think it's part of the culture in Britain to tease a lot. In a pretty good-natured way but it can be brutal. But it's honest, it's often funny, you learn to take the hits.

And what that does - it clears the air. Then you can be regular pals without a cloud hanging over you (but be prepared to take the occasional reminder jab.)

However, America is mostly not like that. It's a huge country so some places might be - but in general, and I think especially in L.A. with all the fragile and often massive egos, nobody cuts you down to your face. They smile (knowingly). The purse their lips. They look over at anothe person there with raised eyebrows when you mention your current deals or offers or whatever. Fakey fakey. Compliments and they expect the same. But you know what's going on behind the scenes. You're often excluded from things you expect to be included -- even by people you think are good buddies. I mean they act like they are...

That's what I keep thinking about with Harry. The culture that can forgive and forget, after you face the flack -- but you won't get the flack, in your face, in L.A. But you'll know what they're thinking and it hurts like hell!

by Anonymousreply 451June 21, 2022 1:14 PM

*Yikes I only lived THERE

by Anonymousreply 452June 21, 2022 1:14 PM

Cunny cunny cunny cunny cunny chameleon

You squirt and go

You squirt and go oh woah woah

by Anonymousreply 453June 21, 2022 1:23 PM

[quote]That's poor Harry, crying behind them, while Meghan gets her paws all over Nacho. She's seen the pix with Harry hanging onto Delfina so here's her response. Harry is so fucked - not in a good way.

Bring the popcorn.

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by Anonymousreply 454June 21, 2022 2:24 PM

Harry's entire life has been an intervention, with multiple security babysitters, publicists and handlers backed up by buckets of money. Some angry arrogant mentally ill addicts cannot be helped.

by Anonymousreply 455June 21, 2022 2:35 PM

Now that it's been announced that William and Kate are going to have a combined birthday party this summer, do you think they'll invite H&M? Very difficult question for them.

by Anonymousreply 456June 21, 2022 6:08 PM

R456 The answer to that is "HELL NO."

by Anonymousreply 457June 21, 2022 6:26 PM

Well at least Meghan didn't spread her legs like she did for Serena's husband.

by Anonymousreply 458June 21, 2022 6:36 PM

^Serena's husband? She could barely keep them closed whilst on the job and pregnant.

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by Anonymousreply 459June 21, 2022 8:18 PM

What?! Spreading legs for Ohanian? Where? When? How? In public? Was Venus in the vicinity?

Kinda explains why Venus has never been seen with her since her arrival on N. American shores, despite being S. Cal residents and fellow Sunshine Sachs clients, besides Meghan's obvious cloying and grifting.

Hugs are pretty generic and considered mostly platonic in the U.S, but that face-touching is a gesture with intimate intent. Especially funny to observe when distressed Harry is in the background and Nacho isn't responding so much.

by Anonymousreply 460June 21, 2022 9:01 PM

Even if he isn't really attracted to Meghan, maybe there's a sort of subtle rivalry between him and Harry and it would be an accomplishment to screw his wife? (I don't know this guy but if he's a narcissist or sociopath, it's possible the friendship doesn't really exist and one-upping a Prince could be a big deal in his circles, for all I know.)

Also it would get publicity, if that would be helpful to Nacho and Delfina - and it goes without saying that Meghan would enjoy everything about an affair - the adrenaline rush, the publicity, demonstrating she still has seduction appeal, and even screwing over Harry.

Reverse it, and maybe some of those motives apply to Delfina - esp as he probably hates Meghan (join the throng)

OTOH, it was just a hug, she and Nacho didn't notice Harry - "Let him have his tantrum - and neither Nacho or Delfina have any desire to cheat with the ex-royals. But I think the opposite is true for Harry and Meghan. They've fucked up so much, what difference would a salacious affair make ?

by Anonymousreply 461June 21, 2022 9:52 PM

Venus.

by Anonymousreply 462June 21, 2022 10:22 PM

This was in response to the cozy pic of Harry and Delphina. R461. Nothing more than a jealous Marc's rage.

by Anonymousreply 463June 21, 2022 10:53 PM

Is a Marc a sugar?

by Anonymousreply 464June 22, 2022 12:17 AM

Not a chance.

by Anonymousreply 465June 22, 2022 12:53 AM

Wait! Who's Marc?

by Anonymousreply 466June 22, 2022 1:00 AM

I wrote a stupid meandering post about why Meghan (or Harry) might want to have an affair. A kind of mixture of fan fiction and wishful thinking (because I feel sorry for Harry, I guess - or even the both of them.)

I want to know what a "Marc" is too so I can figure out what I am and why I'm enraged (though I don't feel enraged - this whole thing is quite entertaining except for the kids part, but kids are always collateral damage, so there's not much to be done... maybe they'll be fine - I grew up with two narc parents and I'm mostly fine (I guess) due to having a loving grandma and several wonderful aunts and babysitters.

by Anonymousreply 467June 22, 2022 1:03 AM

No one wants to fuck Meg. She looked stupid and desperate coming on to Nacho.

by Anonymousreply 468June 22, 2022 1:09 AM

Who told her she looks good in culottes?

by Anonymousreply 469June 22, 2022 1:10 AM

I think she needs blazers over trousers which could camouflage both her thick waist and chicken legs.

But I don't think she can see herself objectively or listen to advice. So she'll just keep dressing badly. But she's over 40 anyway (some say 45 - saw some thing that compared classmates' ages which put her born in 1977) - but in any case, it's downhill anyway.

But why would any couturier or company like Dior want HER wearing their clothes - to make people avoid them?

by Anonymousreply 470June 22, 2022 1:19 AM

Yes, thank you, r462. Both sisters are greats! And I mistook Serena and that her Sunshine Sachs shipmate was all over over the place.

by Anonymousreply 471June 22, 2022 1:25 AM

No, she's not over 40 - her birth record is available in the California Birth Index at Ancestry.com.

by Anonymousreply 472June 22, 2022 2:09 AM

She looks good in the culottes. Meghan has a nice figure. She should have worn a different colored shirt instead of a blue one. White or yellow would have been nice and summery.

Meghan Markle is a very pretty woman.

And thanks for the video, R454. Nacho has a hot little butt, nicely showcased in his sweaty jodhpurs..

Used to go to a Horse Show in the summer, when I was a kid. Around 13, I became fascinated with the form-fitting trousers and knee-high boots I saw on the men.

by Anonymousreply 473June 22, 2022 2:53 AM

Meghan is attractive from the tits up. Her problem is she boxy which is hard to fit properly unless clothes are properly fitted fitted for your. She has ugly chicken legs with zero ass.

by Anonymousreply 474June 22, 2022 3:07 AM

Jealous narc not Marc. Stupid autocorrect. Don't ever buy a Fire tablet, they are garbage.

by Anonymousreply 475June 22, 2022 3:29 AM

She has a butt ugly face and facial structure too r474. Just a bad package overall. No hits either, with wide linebacker shoulders.

by Anonymousreply 476June 22, 2022 3:32 AM

We've gone to hell in a handbasket when a gay man with a supposedly good eye holds the opinion that Sparkles "has a nice figure." Good god man, she has plus size back, waist and feet, flapjack tits and a flat ass on a 5-3 dwarf body. I can't think of a sphere where that amalgamation is considered "nice figure. We're not blind.

by Anonymousreply 477June 22, 2022 3:36 AM

Thanks for clearing that up, R475 !

by Anonymousreply 478June 22, 2022 3:39 AM

Neil Sean again, so be forewarned if you hate him...

He says "according to a very good source", the air kiss that Prince Charles blew towards Kate Middleton was "the biggest insult that they've received since they departed" and moved to Canada then California. Seen as a "very big, final insult."

SMH. Can Harry really feel slighted too? (I can imagine that Meghan might, but really, why? The daughter-in-law who DIDN'T do a tell-all interview with Oprah, accusing him of passing on generational pain to Harry, of him and/or his family being racist, of cutting off Harry when he knew what all he'd spent on him, etc.)

So this may be the backdrop for Harry writing the final version of his memoir that might have enough of a shock-factor for Penguin to approve it. (Sean puts that suggestion towards the end of the video, which he starts with, there always seems to be 'drama' with Meghan - mon dieu)

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by Anonymousreply 479June 22, 2022 3:50 AM

Haznoballs married someone with no tits and no ass. Did his exes have nice figures?

by Anonymousreply 480June 22, 2022 4:59 AM

[quote] No, she's not over 40

Just to clarify for all those who say Meghan is "pushing 40". She's pushed it. She was born August 4th, 1981 so somebody is having her 41st birthday this summer.

by Anonymousreply 481June 22, 2022 7:23 AM

I wonder if she'll attempt 41x41 to make up for last year's dud?

by Anonymousreply 482June 22, 2022 9:35 AM

MM reminds me of the photo of a little ginger kitten looking into a mirror and seeing a lion.

by Anonymousreply 483June 22, 2022 9:56 AM

Weird OCD has someone repeatedly dragging embarrassing garbage Neil Sean on here. Isn't there a pack of fraus somewhere else who would appreciate his valueless nonsense?

by Anonymousreply 484June 22, 2022 11:29 AM

We all know why Harry fell off his horse.

Nacho loosened the stirrups in a writ of fealous jage.

by Anonymousreply 485June 22, 2022 1:18 PM

r484, I wish they would stop. We had the endless Lady C and that annoying tiara boy whose name I forget. now this twat that was on breakfast telly 30 years ago and is desperate for a job.

by Anonymousreply 486June 22, 2022 2:47 PM

Prince Charles, like everyboyd, just wants to be treated kindly. So compare the choices of Kate against... well, you follow...

by Anonymousreply 487June 22, 2022 3:05 PM

What happens when a dog bites the hand that feeds them? My friends mom took their rescue dot to the curb & gave him away to the first person who would take the dog(no, I'm not kidding)

by Anonymousreply 488June 22, 2022 3:18 PM

Has Harry fallen off his horse twice now? That horse hates his guts.

by Anonymousreply 489June 22, 2022 3:52 PM

R489 And who could blame it? There were photos up somewhere of the horse's side bleeding from what Harry did to it. Polo is one step away from bullfighting in terms of animal abuse, in my opinion. The upside of bullfighting is once in a while they kill the matador. In polo, the rider is rarely significantly injured, let alone killed.

Harry really is a vicious, ruthless, humourless, gobshite. His former public "image" was all smoke and mirrors.

Naked Billiard Harry, Nazi Armband Harry, Rough Up the Sexworkers Harry, Put the Boot Into Gran whilst Grandad is Dying, Lie About the Family for Not Doing More for Me Harry, Dig the Spurs into the Polo Pony Harry . . .

Those are the real Harry. He and Meghan thoroughly deserve each other.

by Anonymousreply 490June 22, 2022 4:09 PM

Unfortunate photo makes it look like Sparkle will be getting surprise anal if she steps back a few inches.

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by Anonymousreply 491June 22, 2022 4:18 PM

He doesn't look too impressed that she's there prancing about again for no reason.

by Anonymousreply 492June 22, 2022 9:03 PM

Someone here thinks that “long skinny legs” equals “nice figure”. According to science, straight men find an hourglass shape the most appealing. The woman could be 30 lbs overweight, but if she has a smaller waist and wider hips, they rate it higher than a thin woman with an undefined waist.

I think Meghan has a very pretty face, but her body is disproportionate and wonky. If she dressed for it, she’d look a lot better.

by Anonymousreply 493June 22, 2022 9:23 PM

She doesn't have long skinny legs. She's got short bird legs.

by Anonymousreply 494June 22, 2022 9:29 PM

Look at her coat of arms.

Look at the white songbird's legs.

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by Anonymousreply 495June 22, 2022 10:00 PM

If you passed Markle on the street & knew nothing about her, most people would think she was a very attractive woman. But now that we know about her ugly personality, mean & petty spirit, it's hard to see her physical beauty anymore. It's like actors - once they let the mask slip about the kind of person they really are, it's hard to see them in a favorable light anymore, no matter how hard they try.

by Anonymousreply 496June 22, 2022 10:09 PM

In proportion to her body, they are long legs. And curiously devoid of any muscle below the knee. How does she even walk?

by Anonymousreply 497June 22, 2022 10:10 PM

What physical beauty, R496? She looks like fucking Spongebob Squarepants with fake eyelashes.

by Anonymousreply 498June 22, 2022 10:12 PM

If I passed her on the street, I would think she was pretty. And I would also see that she is smug and self-satisfied because she radiates it.

by Anonymousreply 499June 22, 2022 10:12 PM

I think this ten day or so stretch is the longest we've gone without hearing some self-generated PR from the Harkles. No little rumors or planted stories in the tabloids. Their reception at the Jubilee must have stung them into submission. Either that or they're hard at work scheming their next salvo at the family.

by Anonymousreply 500June 22, 2022 10:22 PM

R500, I was thinking the same thing. They've been home from the Jubilee for a few weeks and all we've got is idling around with the low rent California polo scene. I smell a Jackie Collins novel.

by Anonymousreply 501June 22, 2022 10:49 PM

Harry's looking worse with the scraggly hair. Never thought he was handsome but I guess sorta cute. His brother's more handsome but being bald and having such a wide jaw, he doesn't look nearly as good as he used to. Still, he's maturing quite well it seems - understanding the gravity of his future. This other boy, oy vey!!

I know not to bring junk from the internet, but rumors are showing up that there may be some announcements soon from Netflix and/or Spotify. And even without the rumors, surely those companies aren't going to hang in limbo for months and months with no fucking content whatsoever from these moochers! And his book has been rejected a couple of times - EVEN with a ghost writer who's pretty good I think. Is Harry nervous and not giving the goods that would be needed for a sellable book? We don't want to hear namby pamby details about what schools he went to, his tour in Afghanistan (where he was guarded carefully from danger), and, uh, Invictus and how he founded it. Ignoring the elephant in the room - well, the Spongebob Square Bod.

by Anonymousreply 502June 22, 2022 10:56 PM

Markle has a pretty face by flyover country standards though she has an ugly body. By Hollywood standards, Markle's a Plain Jane which is why her career went nowhere. Well, that and the fact she can't act.

by Anonymousreply 503June 23, 2022 12:10 AM

[quote]all we've got is idling around with the low rent California polo scene.

So true. The polo scene in California all about pretension. And bringing in Nacho for a few cameo chukkas is the equivalent of Archewell hiring 'top flight' talent only to have them quit within months.

by Anonymousreply 504June 23, 2022 12:24 AM

R502, You don’t even need “internet rumors” to wonder about where their content is.

If a woman tells the entire world she’s pregnant and gives little peeks at her bump and there’s no baby, even two years later, you’re not crazy for wondering where the baby is.

by Anonymousreply 505June 23, 2022 12:25 AM

They didn't issue any statements about Father'd Day or Juneteenth?

by Anonymousreply 506June 23, 2022 12:27 AM

The black princess didn't say one thing about Juneteenth. Imagine that.

by Anonymousreply 507June 23, 2022 12:32 AM

R503 Exactly. I don’t understand anyone why anyone would consider her above average. Facially, she’s a 7 in places like Missouri, but a 3, maybe 4 max, in California. The body is uh, difficult. Polio legs, no waist and squat without heels.

by Anonymousreply 508June 23, 2022 12:42 AM

She was very pretty in Suits, even Hollywood pretty. But that was more 10 years ago, when she was just 30 years old. I think she’s just gotten older, and the fillers and Botox might help, but they can’t reverse the aging. Her face has lost elasticity, and I think she just doesn’t look fresh-faced anymore.

by Anonymousreply 509June 23, 2022 12:49 AM

She's a little teapot, short and stout. Which must be what Harry liked about her. Her Englishness.

by Anonymousreply 510June 23, 2022 12:53 AM

^Teabagging, hon, teabagging

by Anonymousreply 511June 23, 2022 12:54 AM

One thing that has really altered her face the cessation of the Botox injections she took to paralyze and shrink the masseter muscles around the jaw which gave her more prominent cheekbones and a sculpted look. Now her face looks very full by comparison.

by Anonymousreply 512June 23, 2022 12:55 AM

I've written a letter to daddy....

A D-N-A cease and desist....

I've written "Hey Daddy, your waistline

is closing in and I'm real pissed...

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by Anonymousreply 513June 23, 2022 1:14 AM

Harry looks like the kind of shallow asshole who would feel fucked over because his wife lost her looks.

by Anonymousreply 514June 23, 2022 1:31 AM

Wouldn't it be awesome if Harry's book ended up being a confessional about his life with Meghan and what a terrible mistake he made? The last chapter could be his divorce paper. Bam! Of course there's no chance this will happen but it would be a serious plot twist.

by Anonymousreply 515June 23, 2022 1:32 AM

Chapter 5 begins...She's gone up another size and it is painfully clear I am not going to polo today.

by Anonymousreply 516June 23, 2022 1:38 AM

Can any industry people tell us if Netflix, Spotify, or Random House has any legal grounds to sue them? How does contact for services work in the Streaming world work? Can the get any advance moneys back? Netflix is in trouble financially. What about Pearl?

by Anonymousreply 517June 23, 2022 1:39 AM

Netflix and Spotify probably didn't pay them much upfront so I imagine they would just rather quietly make them go away than bring attention to their terrible misjudgement in a lawsuit. Random House would have paid a much bigger advance but I'm guessing they are not at breaking point with the Markles yet.

by Anonymousreply 518June 23, 2022 1:43 AM

But their PR put out that they got 6-7 figures from Netflix & Spotify. Know this is probably BS, but if it keeps being touted, can the stock holders demand it be repaid? Now that would be a pretty interesting consequence to all the lying & PR BS they try to float, being forced to either cough up this vast amounts of money to satisfy angry stockholders & investors or say..Whoops we forgot the truth yet again.

by Anonymousreply 519June 23, 2022 1:50 AM

The stockholders will be aware of the actual amount they were paid out and given what other, more famous celebrities have received, it's obvious that their PR figures were insanely inflated and contained the production allowance on top of the advance.

by Anonymousreply 520June 23, 2022 1:54 AM

Thanks for all your info. Could the stockholders demand the actual amount be repaid & have a means to make it happen?

by Anonymousreply 521June 23, 2022 1:59 AM

It’s possible that Netflix paid the Sussexes a sum (not the inflated publicity numbers, mind you) for right of first refusal. Also possible they paid for exclusivity/their “brand”, and not any particular work.

by Anonymousreply 522June 23, 2022 2:00 AM

^^ which would have been a very stupid thing to do, but at least when they made those deals, the Harry and Meghan brand wasn’t deeply in the toilet. There was still a smidge of hope.

by Anonymousreply 523June 23, 2022 2:01 AM

It's embarrassing for Netflix to have made such a bad mistake, so I can't see them wanting to draw attention to it and really, they have much bigger things to worry about right now.

by Anonymousreply 524June 23, 2022 2:07 AM

Thanks again for the input. I guess if I was a stockholder, I'd be demanding they pay back every dime as the arrogantly flounce around, especially Spotify as they are trashing them.

by Anonymousreply 525June 23, 2022 2:10 AM

I honestly can’t even remember what the fuss was with Spotify, when Neil Young left in some kind of huff, didn’t Harry and Meghan jump right on board with that?

by Anonymousreply 526June 23, 2022 2:17 AM

I imagine Netflix are aware that they will be unable to pay anything back.

by Anonymousreply 527June 23, 2022 2:18 AM

R524, Netflix hasn’t been embarrassed yet, the way Spotify has been. As soon as Netflix starts demanding, the allegations will start. Netflix is racist, misogynist, whatever.

See what they’ve done with Spotify? “We can’t work with a company that employs an anti-vaxxer like Joe Rogan! Until he’s fired, we can’t be on the same platform!”

They’ll do the same shit to Netflix.

by Anonymousreply 528June 23, 2022 2:19 AM

R526, I forgot too. Wasn’t he cancelled? Or did he flounce?

It was only about six months ago but it seems like years. So much fuckery has gone down since then.

by Anonymousreply 529June 23, 2022 2:21 AM

Think Old Neil thought he was going to be hailed as the new Head of the Woke Brigade. He's another poster child for people over the age of 50 should stop smoking pot. Why? Cause stuck on stupid parked on dumb isn't a good look in the aged.

by Anonymousreply 530June 23, 2022 2:24 AM

R530 Neil Young suffered from polio as a child and Rogan's anti-vax bullshit was personal to him.

by Anonymousreply 531June 23, 2022 2:31 AM

If it were to come out in legal docs that they were not paid anywhere near the claimed amount, it would be so embarrassing for them.

by Anonymousreply 532June 23, 2022 2:33 AM

Of course they weren't paid what they claimed. The amount was to cover the cost of producing all those documentaries they claimed they'd produce, hiring writers, directors, cameramen, etc., etc., etc. They've done jack shit.

by Anonymousreply 533June 23, 2022 2:35 AM

Everything is personal when you're stoned all the time. Best when you're loaded to stay quiet, groove, & just enjoy your own buzz, rather than being stupid & dumb.

by Anonymousreply 534June 23, 2022 2:35 AM

The point IS that we’ve forgotten the tempest already. Supposedly Brene Brown was leaving, but she’s still on Spotify. And so is Neil Young.

Know who doesn’t have anything except A 33-minute holiday special and two promos totaling three minutes?

by Anonymousreply 535June 23, 2022 2:37 AM

Wouldn't it be delicious if Netflix got revenge by leaking the actual, much lower figure.

by Anonymousreply 536June 23, 2022 2:40 AM

I still don't believe they own that house in Montecito. They probably owe favours all over the place.

by Anonymousreply 537June 23, 2022 2:48 AM

I truly believe there would be accusations of racism and misogyny from the Harkles against Netflix. They would also claim they didn't get enough maternity leave. Harry's mental health, blah blag blah.

by Anonymousreply 538June 23, 2022 2:49 AM

They wouldn't give Haz eight hours a day for his tapping.

by Anonymousreply 539June 23, 2022 2:52 AM

Can you refuse to work with a company that you've actually not produced any work for?

by Anonymousreply 540June 23, 2022 3:06 AM

Was "Pearl" real? I thought it was a cruel joke.

by Anonymousreply 541June 23, 2022 3:09 AM

IIRC Netflix canceled multiple series, especially animated? and Pearl was one of them. They had a huge headache trying to deal with Meghan, who insisted she write her own script, voice her own character, it was to be HER, and she wanted too much control over the project, so they were having money troubles and cutting some series anyway, so hers went on the chopping block.

by Anonymousreply 542June 23, 2022 5:14 AM

Brace yourself, sugars. No new Spotify any time soon.

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by Anonymousreply 543June 23, 2022 5:33 AM

Should have read the comments first. Spotify replied to a tweet and said “Good things come to those who wait"

Our ship is coming in!

by Anonymousreply 544June 23, 2022 5:38 AM

She looks like a strung out hooker in that photo @543.

by Anonymousreply 545June 23, 2022 7:49 AM

That may have been they married - but I read a blind that she was just as much into blow as he is.

by Anonymousreply 546June 23, 2022 8:15 AM

* oops - I meant the picture might have been BEFORE they married. As Jagger would say, her eyes look a little bleary.

by Anonymousreply 547June 23, 2022 8:15 AM

And there are those weird movements she makes with her lips and tongue. Strung out, often in public.

by Anonymousreply 548June 23, 2022 8:29 AM

The weight gain is likely due to alcohol.

by Anonymousreply 549June 23, 2022 8:53 AM

R543 As an avid podcast listener, I find that astounding. It was December 2020 when they put out their first ambitious teaser, and then a few months ago they released another about a feminist focus. It's only a podcast, what's so hard about it? Turn on a microphone and go, have a conversation, do a little editing, add some music. Everybody and their uncle does it these days. Easier than a documentary, that's for sure. Is it a case of being so terrified by deadline and expectations that you simply choke? A six-month delay, sure, whatever – but a year and a half, with no explanation? And with that kind of money even talked about? Hey Harry, Meg, remember: The perfect is the enemy of the good! Just put something out there.

by Anonymousreply 550June 23, 2022 12:35 PM

^ Drugs Blanche, drugs.

Harry who has ridden horses all his life, can't even stay in the saddle while playing with teenagers & without goring the poor pony.

She can't even see what she looks like in a mirror, of which I'm sure there are thousands in that Mansion in Monteshitto.

Drugs Blanche, drugs.

by Anonymousreply 551June 23, 2022 12:41 PM

Spotify's reply, "Good things come to those who wait!" is a clever response that, in fact, doesn't really mean very much. It keeps the potential customer onside but without promising anything concrete.

It doesn't mean that no podcast is being readied, I suspect that one is. But whether it really will be the work of Meghan and not the team that was brought on to anonymously "fix" her predictably amateurish and boring product, is another story.

Welladay, we are looking mostly at rumour here. That goes for Netflix's contract with the Harkles, which, believe me, the company is experienced enough to have crafted with the usual conditions of acceptable product, retainers, percentages, time frames, etc.

Given the Harkles' celebrity, Netflix is probably at pains to do whatever needs to be done to secure its financial standing, but without causing yet another international furore.

"Pearl" has been cancelled, the drop in subscribers and company value was a godsend in that respect.

The "Heart of Invictus" documentary is the issue now, and its status is still anyone's guess.

It may be that Netflix will run that and split the difference between putting something out by the Harkles and nothing out by them before the contract is viewed as done.

And that's all there is right now.

by Anonymousreply 552June 23, 2022 1:19 PM

La Markle sent a letter and some snacks (she's big on buying cheap snacks to get some cheap publicity- she did it during her photo op in Uvalde too) to Shannon Watts of Moms Demand Action and Watts dutifully tweeted it out. Markle wrote it on a letterhead featuring a coronet and an M under it and of course signed herself, Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex. She's shameless. I'm sure Moms Demand Action would have preferred a check for $100K.

by Anonymousreply 553June 23, 2022 2:54 PM

R553, I’m sure they would rather have a check. For what, I don’t know, because it’s probably another sham like Archewell and they’d just be laundering money back and forth. This was a mutual use job.

by Anonymousreply 554June 23, 2022 3:12 PM

Spotify's "good things come" twitter response was likely written by some assistant in the communications department who has no knowledge of executive decisions. I doubt the rumors of the Harkles deal being canceled are true, but I'm sure Spotify has to be getting cold feet by now. The first episode might get good numbers because I'm sure people who hate Meghan will probably tune in just for a laugh, but I can't see the podcast sustaining itself. The truth with Meghan and Harry is the more people hear from them, the less they like them.

Also, strategy wise, it's ridiculous it has taken 18 months and still not a single episode. The buzz around the Oprah interview was the time for them to strike. Now the interest in them has diminished significantly, and the Jubilee exposed how unimportant they are (not to mention the fact they were booed loudly). There is this narrative that they are popular here in the US, I don't think they are.

by Anonymousreply 555June 23, 2022 3:32 PM

[quote]There is this narrative that they are popular here in the US, I don't think they are.

They're simply tabloid-cover-clowns in the US. Featured only to be laughed at.

by Anonymousreply 556June 23, 2022 4:54 PM

As they said, this is a "juicy read"

Saddest part - she was stoned out of her mind while carrying Archie askew in a baby carrier she was wearing (I think this was in Canada - there are photos) and that neither she nor Harry give a shit about Archie.

Hope this isn't true but unfortunately, it does make sense - why did we never get even a glimpse of Archie during the Jubbly, if he was there at all - and if they were so desperate for the pix of the Queen and Lilibet, they'd have to take him... but those photos were so bizarre - her face being thinner and the baby wearing such different clothes in the inside shot - than the picture of her on the grass, oh etc etc. Here's the link, if somebody's better at figure out what's legit or not than I am (which is most people)

Even Desmond Tutu hated her guts!!

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by Anonymousreply 557June 23, 2022 5:33 PM

Direct link instead of through Instagram

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by Anonymousreply 558June 23, 2022 5:40 PM

Still not buying that she was suicidal since she wrapped it up in the whole "I was denied medical care" lie/smear. Plus she claimed she was cured by Harry hugging her. Sure, Jan.

by Anonymousreply 559June 23, 2022 7:13 PM

Wow, R558.

The RSA (Republic of South Africa) stuff is new.

As always with these 2, it's the kids I feel sorry for.

by Anonymousreply 560June 23, 2022 7:34 PM

Same, r560! She also refused to curtsy properly to the Queen of Tonga, who is a dear friend of the BRF. They really could not afford to keep her on.

by Anonymousreply 561June 23, 2022 7:47 PM

Meghan is a pretentious, insufferable nothing....but I highly doubt she's a drug addict or a coke freak as speculated above. She's too invested in control to abuse drugs or alcohol. Harry on the other hand......

Also think the surrogacy rumor is complete nonsense.

I'm starting to feel slightly sorry for them because their collapse is so spectacular. They've stumbled from failure to failure with no end in sight.

The constant polo playing is a sign that they've given up. They can't position themselves as liberal saviors when Harry's playing polo and hob-knobbing with the rich trash that follows the sport.

They both have rage issues and it's only a matter of time before they turn that rage on each other (if it hasn't happened already).

I'm sure having to perform the antiquated rituals of the British monarchy are boring as hell, but how many hours a week was that required of them? They could have easily parlayed their non-taxing positions in that family to showcase their self-importance to their heart's content...and enjoy the attentions of A-listers who would have crawled across glass to bask in their royal rays.

Well, I just talked myself out of pitying them. What a couple of fools.

by Anonymousreply 562June 23, 2022 7:55 PM

That photo of her was downright weird. She's carrying a baby AND got 2 dogs on the leash while she has 2 bodyguards following her. WTF?

by Anonymousreply 563June 23, 2022 7:59 PM

R562 In 18 months she undertook 72 public engagement most lasting no more than an hour or two. While still part of the royals she undertook something like 8 private trips among them to Holland, Italy, France, and New York.

by Anonymousreply 564June 23, 2022 8:08 PM

Faux Madonna complex, r563. Not the pop star, but the sacrificial Mary giving every thing up for the GARGANTUAN little messiah that swung along in the frontal carrier poor Archie outgrew a few months earlier.

by Anonymousreply 565June 23, 2022 8:10 PM

I do believe she felt suicidal; reading all the online trashing and the sneers of the people around her would do it to almost anyone, but I don't believe she couldn't access help. She was under a doctor's care throughout her pregnancy.

by Anonymousreply 566June 23, 2022 8:34 PM

She never was suicidal, she' was just playing the victim card again.

by Anonymousreply 567June 23, 2022 8:45 PM

That's the photo that was so pathetically prearranged that it was comical. And it fed the Archie Isn't Real rumours because he was only, what under a year or something but looked 18 months old at least, or a doll because of how awkwardly he was dangling, or, alternatively, that Meghan hadn't a maternal bone in her body because of how he was dangling.

by Anonymousreply 568June 23, 2022 9:01 PM

That wasn't the first time Meghan used Archie for PR. The day that Prince Louis turned three, Kate posted a photo of him smiling happily with his bike, off to his first day of school.

On that exact same day, Meghan got herself "papped" looking as if she were taking a toddler Archie to play school, burdened down with the kid (whose face was clearly seen, proving that it was with the parents' consent, as the laws of CA prohibit showing the child's face without said consent) and assorted "playschool" items - and walking with all that on a dirt road in heelless shoes that no careful Mum would have worn carrying all that including her kid for fear of slipping.

ON the day Louis turned three and was seen off to his first day of school.

And, of course, looking as if she'd been papped, when the full view of the child's face shows it was prearranged.

She is a vicious bitch and the BRF are lucky she left.

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by Anonymousreply 569June 23, 2022 9:33 PM

Prince Louis' third birthday photo.

I have to say, Meghan and Archie were no competition for this.

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by Anonymousreply 570June 23, 2022 9:35 PM

R562 I agree the surrogacy stuff is mental. Everything else, however, is spot on.

In order to be listed in the Order of Succession, the Queen would have had to have received signed documents by Meghan's medical team. That the public never saw them doesn't mean there never were any. I don't think those children would have been put up on the royal web site in the Order of Succession if the Palace wasn't assured they were "of the body".

You don't need tinfoil hats to be appalled at how the Sussexes have conducted themselves.

by Anonymousreply 571June 23, 2022 9:50 PM

Having been suicidal myself, there's no way you can turn up to an event grinning and looking happy - it shows. You also do not remarkably recover from a hug - it takes months.

I call bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 572June 23, 2022 11:34 PM

I believe Meghan gave birth to those babies because she got so fat. No way would she have done that if she had surrogates. I do think she and Harry skipped normal conception and went straight to IVF just because she got pregnant really fast.

by Anonymousreply 573June 23, 2022 11:54 PM

Stop, fraus. Surely there are bunkers on the internet where you can go on and on about the Harkles' pregnancies and divorces. Unless you have some new info, DL is generally not interested in your mumsy wumsy opinions based on thin air.

by Anonymousreply 574June 24, 2022 12:17 AM

R573 Oh not that again.

Women of 36 get pregnant without help all the time.

The assumption that every woman 35+ can't get up the duff without help is wrong.

I know women who got pregnant for the first time mmediately at 39 and women of 29 who needed two years of infertility treatment.

Unless there was some problem, there is no reason why Meghan shouldn't have gotten pregnant in a couple of months at 36 without help.

by Anonymousreply 575June 24, 2022 1:46 AM

R575 Of course they can. But usually it takes more time. Oh, and I also think they used IVF to gender select first a boy and then a girl since they knew they would be done after two.

by Anonymousreply 576June 24, 2022 5:04 AM

This is as close to conspiracy theory as I get but I wouldn't be surprised at all if they used IVF for reasons of: gender selection and control freakery regarding the timing etc.

by Anonymousreply 577June 24, 2022 6:07 AM

Someone needs to ask Meg if she's okay.

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by Anonymousreply 578June 24, 2022 6:21 AM

Egg harvesting and embryo implantation require taking a lot of hormones to facilitate the processes. Why would she subject herself to all those injections and side effects when she could conceive on her own? Makes no sense.

by Anonymousreply 579June 24, 2022 6:37 AM

Got almost anyone other than Meghan I would agree, R579. And my opinion is "I could believe she did it" - not that she definitely DID do it. I obviously have no idea precisely how her children were conceived.

I knew she was pregnant when that NYT miscarriage article came out, though. Women like Meghan wouldn't admit to a "failure" like that without already being knocked up again - and she was.

by Anonymousreply 580June 24, 2022 6:45 AM

As an American I had little interest in the BRF before this tacky trainwreck Haz and Meg Reality Show hit the airwaves circa 2018.

Halfwit Harry and his Harridan have succeeded in making me root for William and Kate both of whom I had no prior interest in.

by Anonymousreply 581June 24, 2022 8:45 AM

R579 it makes perfect sense. They wanted a girl, i.e. Diana 2.0, after the merching-wise "disappointment" that is commonly known as Archie Harrison. Plus, they've probably been planning this pregnancy meticulously in terms of the due date, making sure that baby will have its (first) birthday around the time of HM's platinum jubilee celebrations, that is to say around the time of her coronation anniversary.

by Anonymousreply 582June 24, 2022 10:26 AM

R580, she published her mythcarriage piece after the Chrissy Teigen miscarriage thing, jumping on yet another bandwagon to get attention and to play the victim card again.

She probably never had a 'real' miscarriage, just heavy bleeding a woman apparently gets when she loses a lump of cells that is about two weeks into gestation. Apparently many women find out they've been pregnant in the first place only after consulting an ob-gyn out of being worried because of the rather unusually heavy bleeding. Out of curiosity I've had a nice chat about this stuff with a friend of mine who's into gynecology job-relatedly. According to her about half of all pregnancies end up in 'miscarriage' within the first two weeks of gestation.

by Anonymousreply 583June 24, 2022 10:37 AM

I thought the mythcarriage was to delay some court proceeding?

by Anonymousreply 584June 24, 2022 10:43 AM

R584, well, why not get the most mileage out of a lie? Miscarriage is incredibly common.

by Anonymousreply 585June 24, 2022 11:37 AM

These last few posts, especially references to mythcarriages... that's frauen talk. We have been invaded not just by Meganloons but by their opposite.

by Anonymousreply 586June 24, 2022 11:37 AM

Pretty soon, a woman having a miscarriage will be under a cloud of suspicion - was it a failed DIY abortion?

Meghan hasn’t said a word about women’s right to choose or medical care.

by Anonymousreply 587June 24, 2022 11:40 AM

stfu, R586 aka fugly Markle fan bitch calling everyone in here "frauen" without even knowing what it means on the DL

by Anonymousreply 588June 24, 2022 11:43 AM

The oh so Black Princess also didn't deem it necessary to say a single word about Juneteenth, R587. Gurning and posing for the paps she called herself at her husband's polo matches is much more important, it seems.

by Anonymousreply 589June 24, 2022 11:46 AM

R588, I've been here since before I am Not Myself These Days or EDB. What frauen is likely to know that?

And if you don't self-identify as frauen you might want to seek professional help to see if your posts are coming from inside your conflicted gender identity.

by Anonymousreply 590June 24, 2022 12:10 PM

It appears all the celebrities using their miscarriages to deflect from their bad publicity is going to work against those that actually do have miscarriages, celebrity or not.

Chrissy Teigen regularly references her miscarriage to deflect from the bullying story and to try and gain sympathy. Miscarriage is also part of Hillary Baldwin's social media attention seeking and more recently Mak's wife from DWTS is suddenly "opening up" about her miscarriages to deflect from his Ukraine bad publicity.

by Anonymousreply 591June 24, 2022 12:14 PM

R590 = the I Have Been Here Since Before Baby Jesus Was Born idiot bitch

Nice try. Time to get another account, hun.

by Anonymousreply 592June 24, 2022 12:50 PM

What is with Smeg's obsession with sending snacks to people and forcing them to publicly acknowledge her?

Shove your doritos up your ass, duchess of snacks! We need money, not whatever you can get frito lay to donate.

by Anonymousreply 593June 24, 2022 1:21 PM

Duchess of snacks....lol

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by Anonymousreply 594June 24, 2022 1:30 PM

R592 I do not remotely believe that Meghan's miscarriage was a myth. The postponement of the next phase of the ANL privacy trial was due to the fact that she was pregnant again, after having had a miscarriage the previous July, and wished to avoid any stress that might affect the new pregnancy, a postponement to which the Court and ANL instantly agreed to without quibble.

The miscarriage being a myth has the same hole that the surrogacy myth: the nearest hospital would have had to have been suspected of colluding in it, just the way the Portland Hospital, the BRF, and Office of Births and Registrations would have had to have been.

Meghan is a ruthless liar, but even her instinct for self-preservation would kick in on this front. Too many cooks in the broth of conspiracy to deceive are horribly risky.

by Anonymousreply 595June 24, 2022 1:33 PM

Not really. I seriously doubt the court or anyone else dared to ask her for proof. People tread lightly when it comes to this woman because she has proven she will not hesitate to publicly brand you a racist if she doesn't get exactly what she wants.

by Anonymousreply 596June 24, 2022 1:53 PM

She really does believe she looked good in that white hat. Every SM account reporting her drive by snacking is using the same photo of her smug, fat head in the white hat.

by Anonymousreply 597June 24, 2022 1:59 PM

Chrissy Teighen got a shitload of positive publicity about her miscarriage so Meghan the Moocher thought: I want some of that!

I hope Meghan sent Chrissy a lot of Doritos to show her gratitude for giving her the idea.

by Anonymousreply 598June 24, 2022 2:52 PM

It's kind of been in the back of my mind since this snack-donation habit kicked into high gear that what's going on is an attempt to come off as nurturing, maternal, feminine etc. At some point over the past few days a pro-Sussex blog said exactly this, that it was pure Meghan to send food because it's such a nurturing etc. thing to do.

She's been doing it for awhile, too. Right back to the flat-as-her-ass banana bread in Australia and the lemon cake flown across country for I can't even remember who.

As for her miscarriage, would I be surprised if she faked it? No. I genuinely think Meghan is disordered and would do something like that. BUT, miscarriage is very common so it's not difficult to believe it actually happened. Either way, whether it did or didn't, the significant thing to me is that she had no compunction regarding using it for PR in the pages of the New York Times.

by Anonymousreply 599June 24, 2022 8:22 PM

Not a particularly fan of Chrissy Teigen but her situation was completely different to Meghan's first trimester miscarriage. Chrissy knew her fetus was dead but had to go through the birthing process - she was that for along. They held the infant and took pica and grieved. That is not just a cluster of bloody cells.

by Anonymousreply 600June 24, 2022 9:04 PM
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