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Keep Sweet: Pray and Obey

Started this last night on Netflix. Hulu's Under the Banner of Heaven got me started on these insane nut jobs. I'd heard of Jeffs of course as he had a compound here in Texas he'd sneak into but hearing directly from people who had fled the cult was illuminating. One girl was married off to her cousin at 14 or 15 and had 6 kids by 24. One girl was married off at 18 to an 83 yo Rulon Jeffs but after he died Warren started them off younger and younger.

Fascinating stuff.

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by Anonymousreply 27June 20, 2022 8:25 PM

Watching it too OP. Finding the women very likable.

by Anonymousreply 1June 10, 2022 6:15 PM

I felt like I was watching a horror movie. And the fact that Warren is still their prophet - just sickening.

by Anonymousreply 2June 10, 2022 8:43 PM

I really felt for Ruby - the girl who had a lot of spunk and got away at 15 and then was tricked to come back by that other teenager.

by Anonymousreply 3June 11, 2022 1:45 AM

Yeah, the women who escaped are inspiring.

It's a fascinating documentary.

by Anonymousreply 4June 11, 2022 1:47 AM

Did they ever say if the woman who had 6 kids by 24 ended up with her childhood sweetheart?

by Anonymousreply 5June 11, 2022 2:43 AM

That reporter was awesome.

He went after them like a pit bull who wouldn’t let go of a bone.

I was so sickened. I cannot believe these people got and still get away with this shit.

These girls are still KIDS.

by Anonymousreply 6June 11, 2022 2:53 AM

The reporter seemed to have gone down the meth road. He looked very different in the old footage.

by Anonymousreply 7June 11, 2022 2:55 AM

I thought it was facial wasting, R7.

The reporter doesn’t act or speak like a meth head. He had presence of mind and still had a place to work and live at the time he was filmed.

He may look like a tweaker, but he doesn’t actually tick any of the boxes of a typical addict.

by Anonymousreply 8June 11, 2022 2:59 AM

Jeffrey Epstein had NOTHING on Warren Jeffs.

This guy was king pedo.

by Anonymousreply 9June 11, 2022 5:03 AM

This series failed to address two big issues with the FLDS. The genetic issues of generations of intermarrying and the welfare fraud they are involved in

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by Anonymousreply 10June 11, 2022 12:00 PM

Just finished watching this. It started off really strong but the conclusion felt rushed. They could’ve included so much more.

by Anonymousreply 11June 11, 2022 5:40 PM

Yes I was surprised it was only 4 episodes.

by Anonymousreply 12June 11, 2022 6:01 PM

I think we all knew about the polygamy and child brides, but I'd forgotten about how they kicked out all the young boys and left them to fend for themselves. What an awful group of people, going along with the nutcase Jeffs.

by Anonymousreply 13June 12, 2022 2:29 AM

Warren out on the lamb living the life in his gentile clothes at Disneyland with motorcycles and his favorite wives was quite something.

Such a dumb goofy ass face he has.

by Anonymousreply 14June 12, 2022 1:50 PM

What's worse R13 is that a lot of people saw Warren's antics and maneuverings with Rulon before and just went with it but that's part of cult mentality and Mormons are brought up to not question the "prophet".

by Anonymousreply 15June 12, 2022 2:56 PM

[quote] the welfare fraud they are involved in

Yes, I heard about that. Jeffs somehow turned it into a point of pride to collect welfare. Big Papa's children ... all on welfare.

by Anonymousreply 16June 12, 2022 3:01 PM

They call it “bleeding the beast” or something like that.

by Anonymousreply 17June 12, 2022 3:41 PM

Just started watching and the guy sitting slunk down in the recliner looks stupid, I guess the wife was afraid to tell him to sit his ass up

by Anonymousreply 18June 20, 2022 12:26 AM

Score another victory for the utter horribleness and cruelty of religion. I will never understand how the promise of a clearly fictitious "heaven" can make otherwise intelligent humans act like total morons.

by Anonymousreply 19June 20, 2022 12:44 AM

This reminds me of [italic]Breaking the Faith[/italic] on TLC.

by Anonymousreply 20June 20, 2022 12:55 AM

I read that the family on the Sister Wives show were guilty of welfare abuse too as some of them were getting food cards because they were considered single.

by Anonymousreply 21June 20, 2022 4:01 AM

R21, technically, they are single, except for the first wife married to a polygamist.

All of the following marriages are not legally binding under a court of law.

All of the offspring from the multiple wives are legally entitled to child support from the polygamist father, but the women married to him after the first wife are single.

I understand what you mean, but I’m just pointing out the legal technicalities.

Anyhow, the worst part of this was when they discovered the rape room, where Jeff’s was raping little 12 year old girls and he recorded all of the rapes.

Fortunately, those recordings are what ultimately locked him up for life, but it was devastating to hear the audio of a child being raped in the name of God.

These people are fucking sick and I’m just grateful AF to have gotten away from the horror that religion inflicts on the lives of vulnerable people.

by Anonymousreply 22June 20, 2022 4:27 AM

It's hard not to be impressed with Roger Ebert's continuing productivity.

by Anonymousreply 23June 20, 2022 4:29 AM

So at the end that woman just left all her junk in the road?

by Anonymousreply 24June 20, 2022 4:42 AM

I remember hearing about this when Jeff’s was on trial, good documentary. Those poor young girls.

by Anonymousreply 25June 20, 2022 11:55 AM

Crazy there are still thousands of followers though.

by Anonymousreply 26June 20, 2022 8:00 PM

Warren jeffs ran quite a racket:

[quote]Additionally, Jeffs defrauded the government by using Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) funds, which help those in need to buy food through government-provided debit cards, according to a 2016 indictment by Utah's attorney general. The indictment alleged that non-authorized people were directed to buy food using SNAP funds. Then the food items were placed into a shared storehouse run by the FLDS, before being distributed by FLDS-run businesses. Members were forced to purchase food items only at these businesses, so the FLDS essentially made profits from free food through money laundering.

by Anonymousreply 27June 20, 2022 8:25 PM
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