Prisons are proof that men are sexually fluid

Which famous guy would be treated worse (or better depending on the point of view) in prison?

Thanks for the reminder. BRB I’m gonna go rob a 7-11

So if a gay guy is incarcerated with all women, he will start fucking vadge?

^Why don't you just fuck yourself.

R2 Don't you have anything better to do? Of course not.

R1

Any twink.

Not all men go gay in prison. You can always just jerk off, you do know that right?

Kind of a strange comment to make...

One of my hookup buds did hard time for dealing drugs, is “straight trade” & is in a relationship with a woman. I can’t imagine asking him, “so you’re bi, right.” Someone would be on their way back to the slammer…

[quote]Prisons are proof that men are sexually fluid

WTF, OP. How many guys in prison do you think do this? I guarantee it's WAY LESS than you think. And I'm not counting the rapists who are, just that, rapists who rape not for having-sex but for having-power.

My “straight” cousin has been in and out of prison. One time he called his mom saying he was in love with some man in prison and was going to move in with him when they got out. That never happened, so I just assume he was being used in prison.

Is that the sound of fraus’ heads exploding all over Dataloungeland?

That's the sound of bloody farts from your asshole.

Then move your head, cuntress. Or you could kill yourself. Try that.

Or YOU could just bleed out your asshole.

Stop biting it, we’ll all be fine. Now, go do us all that big favor. Die.

R7 STRANGE?! You're being kind.

Remember that one inmate who was in love with Justin Bieber? Lol.

The Justin Bieber & Austin Mahone types are popular with inmates.

HOT R8!!!!!

[quote] Remember that one inmate who was in love with Justin Bieber?

Interesting. Link please.

I met a guy at a bar in the early 2000s.He was a hot little latin man. He hit on me, bought me drinks, asked me to go home with him. He tells me before we do anything he just got out of prision. Dealing drugs. His body was hot as shit but his dick was kind of small. He said he was a top but when push came to shove I got his legs in the air. I have a larger than average one which compared to him I was John Holmes lol and he was dickmatized. When I started he stopped me told me he had never done it before. Told me if he had done it in presion he would be someone's bitch. I told him we are not in prision and I did not force his legs up. So I take it slow and easy thinking he is just trying to give me the virgin fantasy. The guy was a natural and moaned liek a whore. He layed with me after telling me that was the best sex he ever had, I changed him, blah blah blah. Damn if he did not become attached. He would call me every day, be at my door when I got home from work. He wanted to move in after one fuck.

R21 thats kind of sweet. Annoying maybe but sweet.

Sex is about intimacy. I don't get why men are surprised when girls or gay guys catch feelings after good sex. If you had a great meal at a restaurant or someone's house, you'd come back for more...

r13 it was actually. I let him move in. I had a two bedroom condo and it was nice for a few weeks. But he was a baby gay and he needed to sow some wild oats. He moved out a few months later when he fell in love with someone else. Even then he would still contact me to fuck, said no one rang his bell like me lol.

It is about power and protection. Behind bars, everything becomes a commodity. If someone can't keep safe short of offering themselves, they'll do it. And rape is about someone with power lording it over someone else.

OP, men will fuck anything if given the opportunity.

I think that the guys a lot of guys who have sex with men in prison are the ones that have done it before. You know, guys coming from troubled homes whonwere possibly abused as kids, member of gangs where older boys use younger ones for sex, juvenile delinquents and even though they act like straight outside, it is not new to them. Also the rapist as someone said are just rapist, they will rape anyobe weaker than them and many were probably raped themselves as kids.

I am not sure that white colar criminals actively seek sex with guys in prison.

Also, men who go to prison can not be proof for genersl male population as they are not your average Joes.

Don't assume that all sex (or even most sex) between incarcerated men is consensual.

Some gay men are segregated from the general prison population because they are targeted victims for sexual assault. If you hear survivor stories, it's a lot more disturbing and less titillating than you'd think. Straight men, particularly younger men, are also targeted, but not in the same number.

The entire plot of OZ was this trope OP!

R28 The violent guys who are assaulting these men are not normal "straight" guys who never had seen a dick before. Yes, they are the type that would use anyone and anything for sex, like the farmers who have sex with animals. They are aggresive with personality disorders. And they mainly come from the background where sexual abuse of boys by men and older boys was pretty common. So, you can not say that this is the way that the typical straight man would behave in prison.

R2 I think they would rather fuck a ziplock bag full of lotion. Their standards have been lowered not eradicated.

Surely this is how prison sex is, right?

R22 That's exactly how bottoms and girls' brain work actually. The intimate sex injects a shit ton of serotonin, oxytocin that serves the purpose of pair bonding. The more casual sex a straight woman or a gay bottom has the more this effect is damaged.

Bullshit r33. Men are men. It doesn't matter if you're cumming because there's a dick pressed against your prostate or if you're cumming because your dick is touching the inside of an ass. Don't compare bottoms to women.

So, these chemicals are only found in women and bottoms? Cause straight men and macho top dudebro don't have them? How about butch lesbians then? Which side are they,neuroscientist at R33?

R2 Even prisoners have standards you fat azztec!!

R34 and R35 Since gay men are "born this way" it has been shown on different papers (that I have personally read) that they have a different brain than straight men. It's basically a male brain with a touch of female aspects. Also the sex position means a lot as it reproduces atavic behaviours. Getting owned sexually doesn't result in the same psychological response as sexually owning someone else.

R30

Actually, when you look back at ancient Greece and Rome (and other older civilizations) pretty much every man would fuck teen boys and handsome young men. If society accepted it, I’m sure the same would be true today. There are a bunch of “straight” men who are attracted to teen boys today. Google and it just so happens to be a top question on Quora and Reddit.

I’ve been to prison/jail 3 times. 3,8,15 months. It’s really not that prevalent in my experience circa early 1970s. Or maybe I was just too terrified to notice it going on. But I suppose it is a fun fuck fantasy for porn.

R38 if by society you mean stupid religions that came up after Greece and Rome.

R38 I studied History a looong time ago, ancient greece didn't not accept male couple. Ancient Sparte was military base, men worked in tandem, an older man and a younger man, but no man was supposed to stay single, they all had to married and have kids (their wife would only see them at night, the day was used for political and military life, not family). The ones who didn't marry were called "ass hole". (that's the only thing I remember from my ancient History class at university.)

[quote] How would specific male celebrities be treated if they were in prison?

R41 Yeah, homosexuality as an identity was unthinkable. There was homosexual sex but was a matter of shame mostly. The free man would always be the top and slave or rejected from society the bottom, then he'd went on marrying a girl and have kids. Actual gay men existed but weren't treated well. Teacher-pupil pederastly wasn't very common and it was still highly controversal and critisized.

R43

It wasn’t shameful if you were the top to handsome youth. That was seen as normal.

No one has ever liked bottoms, even back in Ancient Greece and Rome. Unless you were a pretty bottom twink like Antinous.

R44 The only men that could get away with being bottom whores were emperors like Caligula or kings like Alexander the Great etc.

[quote]Actually, when you look back at ancient Greece and Rome (and other older civilizations) pretty much every man would fuck teen boys and handsome young men. If society accepted it, I’m sure the same would be true today. There are a bunch of “straight” men who are attracted to teen boys today. Google and it just so happens to be a top question on Quora and Reddit.

Exactly, as you said "straight". This top question on Quora or Reddit was not asked by straight men. Cause, as much as youth would experiment more with same sex if it was allowed and not such a taboo for males and there are men that would fuck anything, sheep, women, boys, men, the majority of people are still heterosexual. So, just like majority of DLers wouldn't fuck a beautiful girl, straight guys are not that interested in boys or handsome young men.

[quote]Since gay men are "born this way" it has been shown on different papers (that I have personally read) that they have a different brain than straight men. It's basically a male brain with a touch of female aspects

So tops are not gay? Why the fuck are they making their life harder by fucking guys instead of having an easy and socially accepted life chasing women.

R48 Because women don’t like their asses fucked or they enjoy dominating a boy/man?

R49 Nonsense, how can you be that stupid? a straight man would go through any effort to persuade a woman or women to the type of sex he is attracted to and would not waste a single minute on gay men.

Those who enjoy dominating men are people with confused sexuality, probably abused in childhood, but I really don't think that any gay man able to penetrate has this case of disorder. Might be true for some "total tops" though.

[quote] how can you be that stupid?

He's a straight me.

Stupid queens who think that straight men would get aroused by hairy male asshole.

If there's one thing I learned from "Oz," it's that very hot white untattooed men are just waiting to fuck me silly in prison!

TV is real!

De Facto, you are to sweet and delicate for prison.

Women's colleges are proof that women are fluid. So what?

Women are fluid only until the college is over.

Well, same for prison. Just because some people don't get political doesn't invalidate their experiences.

Once you go crack, you can still go back.

Why would "fraus" care about gay men, R11? Straight men aren't interested in men. They're interested in women.

Until the women are gone.

R61 If you were put in prison with women would you start fucking them?

We aren't all Kinsey 6 types here....

Some are Kinsey 7, Ubergay

Are the Kinsey 7s the ones with the pathological hatred of bisexuals?

It would be like pathological hatred of Pinocchio R65. Just kidding, just kidding.

We knew a Latino sister called Chiquita Banana, who had a 'powder' problem and was sent to LA county jail.

We and a fabulous Mexican eldersister would phone Chiquita and heard that she was getting so much pinga that she never wanted to leave!

R49 Also, why wouldn't a straight guy want to fuck a woman's pussy if she doesn't like it up the ass. You wouldn't know it, but straight men like pussy and prefer it to male asshole.

Not true. If I was put in an all women's prison, being the only male I'd try my hardest to get rammed by the guards and not the female inmates. I have no interest in pussy, never have, never will... under ALL circumstances. Men are men, women are women. Trans try like hard to blur the lines of gender and sexuality. Fuck off!

R24 hot.

Fuck, this thread is turning me on. Maybe I should seriously think about going to jail? Probably the easiest way to get the love of a jacked straight guy.

De Facto, i promissed you I would go straight for you.

Not even an imprisoned, deeply closeted gangster thug wannabe would want some mincing, prancing queen like De Factard.

I did 6 months in a county jail in Florida.

This was definitely going down but it was more so Hispanic jerk circles.

[quote]I’ve been to prison/jail 3 times. 3,8,15 months. It’s really not that prevalent in my experience circa early 1970s. Or maybe I was just too terrified to notice it going on. But I suppose it is a fun fuck fantasy for porn.

Damn, buddy. What did you do?

False, just because they would fuck any hole under those conditions don't mean anything when they are free. Asshole cunt of an OP.

R56 fair point. I went to an all-girls' school for seven years, and while there was a lot of experimenting going on there (probably more than in a co-ed school, though I can't be sure about that as I never attended one), the number of actual dedicated lesbians & woman-leaning bi girls still numbered relatively few--I remember only knowing of maybe a half a dozen out lesbian students, and maybe a dozen in the closet. The majority all wanted cock, primarily, but thanks to teen hormones and horniness would nonchalantly tongue or twerk on or grope or finger another friend or classmate, often when out after school or on a trip or during recess or in the chapel. There was also a bit of a hazing culture, with senior girls sometimes inducting the juniors with sexual gestures & trials or at least a lot of teasing (nothing truly immoral, but probably close to the mark).

R76 Like they twerked back in the 1950s, gramps.

R21… one day, the call is going to be coming from inside the house.

Men with fuck a hole in a pillow.

And fruit.

I went to a boy’s high school, have a brother who has been in prison most of his life, and I used to work in an outpatient medical clinic (AIDS) for PWAs who had just been released from prison. In HS, I had sexual contact with boys who never dated another male, or go on to have further sexual contact with another male. My incarcerated brother has just gone silent whenever I ask about sex/rape inside. He would only say “I’ve never been raped.” As a footnote, he was molested by one our uncles. As far as my clinic experience, it was the late 1990s in a large SoCal city. None of the guys I met at the clinic identified as as gay. A few confirmed the premise that “straight guys” have sex with other men inside. They would never accept the gay/bi label, and strongly denied they caught the bug “inside.”None of them had HIV before they “went inside.” Almost all would say they “got it from some woman before they went away…I didn’t even know I had it.” I don’t buy that for several reasons. Hardly any of these guys would go on to have sex with other men during my time with them (that they would admit). Hardly any of them told their female partners (new, or ones who had been waiting) that they had HIV. I am not trying to make any larger political/psychological/sociological points. I realize it was a small and unique sample, but this was my experience, and the demographics were what you might expect for a large SoCal city. I think OP is correct. The fraus and haters are in denial. Some people paid with their lives for their faulty logic. Lastly, I would say Kinsey and the ASOs (AIDS service organizations) are correct. There is an entire population of MSM (men who have sex with men) who never identify as gay/bi and “fly under the radar.” I used to roll my eyes at the PC terminology, but this is sexual reality. It exists.

Sorry for the typos^

R52 You'd be surprised what some "straight" men are into. Sounds like you need to get out more.

Every once in a while, I look through the local mugshots and amuse myself at the thought of the good looking guys who have been arrested getting it on with one another behind bars. Not the uglies, of course. Just the ones with all their teeth and who aren't obese.

I meant straight, not "straight" R83.

Men fuck holes, not people.

Yes, it's been proven over time that hetero males will turn to other males for sexual release if no females are available. That's how strong the need for physical sexual contact is in humans. But, if they are truly hetero they will usually revert to females once they become available. It's indicative of the amazing ways our brains can adjust when the need arises, as with someone who goes blind, the brain causes all the other senses to become great heightened.

So that mean gay guys would seek out pussy if placed in a co-ed prison?

Uber frau has posted ^ this 13 times now in this thread. Someone needs to answer huh before the TIA.

Two ex-cons that did porn. Both claimed to have women on the outside.

[quote]That's how strong the need for physical sexual contact is in humans.

Men, not humans. Women aren't horny like that. We can take it or leave it at any given moment.

I’m surprised r21 invited someone out prison to move in.

I realize that the definition of “frau” is “an imaginary female onto whom I psychologically project any quality I reject in my own self image,” but I really do think most fraus have been masturbated in by enough men to easily believe that straight men will fuck anything and are far less shockable than is imagined here.

it must suck for some gay men to make everybody else just like them. i wonder what that is called?

r37 Yes I remember seeing in the news several years ago a study comparing gay men's brains to women but I don't recall the article distinguishing between gay men who fuck and gay men who get fucked. That's your own little embellishment.

[quote] Men, not humans. Women aren't horny like that.

It's no different in women's prisons. If they're in long enough they all turn dyke.

[quote]I realize that the definition of “frau” is “an imaginary female onto whom I psychologically project any quality I reject in my own self image,”

No, a frau is a non-independant, non-unique follower of trends. Every different generation and culture has their own "frau" archetype.

The homo is addicted to excitement, playing daddy against daddy.

We were molested!

When we were 13 an elderly doctor touched us inappropriately 'down there' during a physical examinatia.

Same is true of the Vikings. If you could get a warrior to cum from a blow job before sunrise you were considered a true man.

You are naive if you think that many of these guys from prison, particularly more violent and predatory ones never tasted dick before prison. Most of them grew up in the street and as part of gangs where sexual abuse of boys is not a rare thing. First they got abused then they abused the others. I don't think Kray brothers were such big exception.

Do you think some accountant imprisoned for fraud is sexually assaulting men in prison.

The funny thing is that in the most homophobic communities there is the most homosex around. Before the Aids spread so heavily on African American women who could have known about all these "straight" black guys on the Down low. It was just when black priests and Oprah started to talk about it that it became known to general public. And Arabs that have death penalty for sodomy were selling their boys to European pederast for God knows how long, before some French authors started to write about it.

In Europe, the same with Catholic countries. Catholic church is the greatest instigator of homophobia in Europe and probably the institution who has the worst history of abuse of pre teen and teen boys. And most priests are practicing homosexuals. It was also kept as secret for centuries, until recently.

I always wonder if bisexuality and homosexuality is rarer in sexually more permissive Scandinavian societies, cause it seems that the worst homophobes are the most engaged in homosexual acts secretly.

R101 = Debbie Downer

Antisocial men and gang members had high levels of sexual violence and multiple risk behaviours for sexually transmitted infections, childhood maltreatment and mental disorders, including addictions. Physical, sexual and emotional trauma were strongly associated with adult sexual behaviour and more prevalent among gang members. Gang members showed precursors before age 15 years of adult preference for coercive rather than consenting sexual behaviour.

Gang members show inordinately high levels of childhood trauma and disadvantage, sexual and non-sexual violence, and psychiatric disorders, which are interrelated.

The claim that we’re all sexually fluid negates the idea that we are born gay. Gay=straight.

Is there a gas leak in here?

We were in the living room of a fabulous elders sister when a hot closet case declared that he was"bi'. .....to which eldersister responded without missing a beat "Oh, men and boys?"

We are planning to enjoy massive intact Ukranian sizemeat, 30 years old, this weekend! And NO rubbers!

80% of humans are actually bisexual., to varied degree. It’s not a surprise that men fuck men in prison. It’s natural. It’s nature. It’s the only option for intimacy in that situation without the awful constraint of conformity.

My partner is Cuban. While his parents accept me, he told me never even hint that I have been fucked. The worse thing you could tell hin was his son was fucked in the ass.

Sounds like fun, jeez

r111. I guess fisting is off the table also.

I'm sure its been said before and I'm not going to bother scrolling back through, but its statistically documented that only a miniscule number of prisoners engage in same sex activity while in prison.

R114

And how would anyone know the real statistics when most men keep it a secret?

Homos, honestly, ask yourselves, would you resort to licking pussy if you were incarcerated and it was the only sex available? No, you'd jack off thinking about dick.

Another frau alert in aisles 114 and 116. Clutch those pearls, grrrls!

R114 it's actually been confirmed on different polls that about 50% of male prisoners ADMIT to engaging in same sex activity

I'm no math genius but that would be half, that's hardly miniscule, and they're the ones who ADMIT (big distinction) it, factor in the guys who will never admit than it's probably closer to 80%

I'm bisexual and ever bisexual man I've been with would never, ever ever, under circumstances admit to fooling around with another guy because of the unmanly, negative stigma attached to male/male sex

For some odd reason, straight people don't get this

You're correct, R118. A lot of gay men don't understand that, either.

[quote]80% of humans are actually bisexual., to varied degree.

Sure, Jen. Maybe, the other way round, 80% of people are not bisexual, but I think the number would be even bigger. People are "bisexual" or "fluid" or "pansexual" when they are kids and experimenting, but by the end of college they are mostly either straight or gay. Of course, there are closet cases and men with internalized homophobia forcing themselves in heterosexual relationships and today it is modern to call these men bisexual. Again, I am not saying that there are not bisexuals, but they are really in minority.

I think DL collectively needs to take a trip to a good library and see what the actual breadth of opinion on men who have sex with men actually looks like. Hint: books have been written about this since 1930.

Not anyone who can refute Kinsey….the topic has become more infused with politics than ever.

The guy I dated above, the ex-com who moved in told me it was all over. There were the new guys who got targeted, gay men who would Boo up for protection and be sold out to other inmates for sex (like their own private hookers to pimp out). guys who really were into each other. He said the mob guys would never ever be seen or thought of as fucking guys but they had their private guys who serviced them.

Boo up?

In the early 2000's one of my clients at the ASO in LA was a 18 year old black female. She was getting ready to leave for college when she found out her status. She states she did not use condoms with her partner one time; it was right after he was released from a nine month jail sentence. She felt it was safe because he had been abstainate for nine month. How wrong was she.

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r124 Find a big man to be their husband. It was along the race lines as well. Whites with whites, blacks with blacks , hispanics with hispanics, Italians usually stuck together as well.

Thank you, R127.

Straight men will fuck anything and due to male entitlement, will rationalize it however they can manage.

The only thing keeping a lot of men from crossing over is the stigma of homophobia, which falls more heavily on men. Otherwise yeah, a great deal of them would likely try to get into your pants as much as they do ours.

[quote] I’ve been to prison/jail 3 times. 3,8,15 months. It’s really not that prevalent in my experience circa early 1970s.

R39, glad you haven't done time recently. I'm guessing your sentences were drunk-driving related. No offense intended.

I think things change when you're in prison with long-timers. 15 months is a long time, but relatively brief.

Turned Out: Sexual Assault Behind Bars (2004). This is a documentary about long-timers (murder, etc.) in an Alabama (?) prison. Pretty candid interviews. You be the judge on whether these guys were situational homosexuals.

[quote]Estimates are that 20 percent of all men serving in US prisons have been raped.

Uh-oh.

R125, God, a black female. Haven't black women made some million percent of women who got Aids from their bisexual husbands/ boyfriends

Facts

Same thing happens in female prisons. Except there, women usually develop some sort of a romantic relationship between them, it's not all just about fucking and letting off steam, like in male prisons.

Happens a lot in women prisons

I saw a documentary on Youtube about this 19 year old, adorably handsome, southern twink (5'6" 135 lbs) who went to prison and was immediately raped by multiple men, daily, to the point he begged to be in solitary just so his body could heal. They would put him in solitary, then return him to general, and the raping would resume. He wrote letters to his parents, the warden, the governor, begging for help. His pleas fell on deaf ears.

He was so psychologically traumatized, he ultimately committed suicide.

^ And he wasn't gay.

After Colin Quinn met me about 20 years ago, he told a friend mine that he wasn’t gay but if he was in jail with me, he’d want to fuck me.

Men are not "sexually fluid."

They are horny. And incarceration in the circumstances demanded by corrupt, deluded governments lead to social structures where power-setting rape is added to the "normal release of tensions."

Gay men are generally turned off by females from a purely physical perspective.

Straight men are generally turned off by men due to cultural and societal implications.

Tis why gay men wont seek pussy in prison whilst straight guys are free of the cultural implications due to the sociological construction of prison life.

They return to their straight life when they leave prison and conform to their natural environment.

R141, I know a lot of gay men my age and younger. Most aren’t turned off by females physically. Most are neutral about women physically but not repulsed. A huge percentage have had sex with a woman at least once, and many still are open to having sex with them. Many are homoflexible. There are gay men who say they are repulsed physically by women, but they tend to be older or/and very flamboyant.

How much is that because they are really attracted to women, r142, and how much is it a sort of unspoken pressure on young gay men today (which I know young lesbians have) to be "flexible" and "fluid", etc. Being gay is apparently boring now and we all have to be "queer" or say we're "LGBTQ+". What does gay actually mean for you if it involves men having sex with women?

You might also have noticed a number of the older gay men on here saying that they would have fucked anything when they were younger because they were horny all the time.

Straight men are very visual and objectify women’s looks

[quote]Straight men are very visual and objectify women’s looks

Unlike gay men who would never objectify other men's looks...

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