Eldergays, tell me about Stephen Fry

It started out as Monet funny, took itself too seriously, and then shat the bed.

Fuck off you condescending little shit. He's still alive, he's still working, Google him

I like him. He's interesting.

Passable actor, mediocre writer. Decent presenter. Bipolar. Easily would up. Yo-yo dieter. Social-climber. Was of the time when Cambridge "footlights" stepped into easy jobs in the media.

Quite charming but not much of an actor. His performance in The Dropout, the Theranos drama, showed up his weakness as an performer.

[quote]His name has come up in conversation several times recently.

Keep better company.

He's always been annoying to me.

Over exposed, and pompous with it.

Yes he is a bit pompous and a diva. Remember his twitter meltdown over being called out at calling someone a "Bag Lady" at the BAFTAs.

Isn’t he a chickenhawk? I heard that he was.

A big girl. Large around the hips. Roomy.

I’m not sure why you think an elder gay would be more qualified to know who Stephen Fry is.

He writes exactly as he speaks.

Self-confessed pedophile. He only likes underage boys. His husband looks like he was mummified to look forever young. All his books are about that and I started hating him after reading them. He is also friends with other notorious pedos and refers to men who like boys as "an elite historical club to which I'm proud to belong". Vomit.

Every time I log into Audible he’s hawking another narration of some classic freshly in the public domain.

R4- I always felt he was good at kissing Aristocratic ARSE.

R14 that's really untrue. A quick check shows his husband was about 28 when they married, he's 35 now. He's about 30 years younger than Fry but doesn't make Stephen a paedophile.

Fry's previous boyfriend, of 15 years, was 12 years younger than him.

I have never read anywhere that he identifies with other men who like young guys. Spin your scurrilous lies elsewhere you bugger!

R17, first: make the effort to actually read his books and then make a fool of yourself by commenting.

Second: yes, he has clearly made the choice to date men who are of age but who look like adolescent boys. I enclose photo of his previous boyfriend.

Fun tidbit: the two met at the recording of the "Winnie the Pooh" audiobook. Fry was the bear. Future bf was Christopher Robin.

Oh, and he was over 30 yrs younger.

Didn't he once walk off stage right in the middle of performance, and out of the production? Does he still do theatre? Something was going on with him.

[quote] Oh, and he was over 30 yrs younger

I think he’s tremendous.

R18 I have read his 4 novels and two of his autobiographies, I do not recall anything about lusting after teen or underage boys. I'm not a fan of his any longer but no need to twist reality

I miss him on QI. No doubt he was tired of doing it, but I wish he and Sandi would alternate seasons.

Yeah, sure, I believe you, R17 / 22. You must have read them while sleeping, right? Try again.

Honey what about The Stars Tennis Balls mentions underage boys?

I loved him less when I found out about his condescending dismissal of Merchant & Ivory's Maurice movie adaption.

He is the principal's voice in the recently released Heartstopper.

R26 what did he say about Maurice?

Eurgh! Painful. Not good looking enough to be another Rupert Everett. The definition of privilege, got poor reviews for some shitty play he was doing in London so went AWOL. Oh the mystery of it all. Then tried to reinvent himself as a 90s Oscar Wilde with bon mots which were just as contrived those uttered by his idol. He was celibate and never shut the fuck up about that, then got laid and hasn't shut the fuck up about that. Someone described him as 'a stupid person's idea of what an intelligent person is like' and that sums him up perfectly. He married some guy years younger than him but he's the type to justify it by giving a history lecture on pederasty in classical era Greece.

What must Fry's Cambridge Footlights friends say behind is back.

I’m not r26 but one of the first Google responses is this thread that reveals little.

Stephen Fry should be so lucky to make something so good as Maurice.

His cod sergeant major routine from the 1980s didn’t mean he could direct comedy. Sitting through the appalling Emily Mortimer braying “ooooooh! I do rather love cocaiiiiine!” In Bright Young Things was a burden I shudder to think of 20 years on.

He was fucking awful in Gosford Park.

I like Fry. He's the type of overeducated literary gadabout and posturing intellectual public figure England does so well.

An Oscar Wilde wanna be.

Cell Mates was the play he walked out of after three days. Fry claimed it was a bipolar episode but actually it was because he received bad reviews and critics were praising his co-star, Rik Mayall.

Yea R35 that was a lousy thing to do, he effectively brought the show to a close and left everyone in the shit.

[quote] He's the type of overeducated literary gadabout and posturing intellectual public figure England does so well.

Overeducated? He has a lone BA. Don’t confuse his accent and him reciting the answers production pipes his earphones on QI for actual intellect.

Fry is a pedo. I read a story about Rik Mayall leaving an interview when Fry began talking about his dalliances with underage boys.

I've never heard anything paedophilic from Fry. If anyone can prove anything, I'll listen, but until then... I do know he is very critical of religion and the crimes it has committed against children. Certainly never heard him justifying that.

Who cares if his partner is younger? They're both over the age of consent and people seem to forget that this means the younger person has agency to make their own decisions about who they sleep with too. As someone who regularly dates older men than myself, I can assure you of that.

Is it just because he has a younger partner and is a fan of classical Greece that people make these statements? Also, writers write about all sorts of topics, not always comfortable ones too. That's nothing new and doesn't mean anything about the personal life of the author. People who think so remind me of those who argue that an actor must be the same person as the role they play in a hit show.

Read his three autobiographies, R39. No one is gonna summarise them for you.

Yeah, no. I'm not taking the word of someone just saying something if they're not going to back it up themselves. You make the claim, you are responsible for backing it up. Until then, I don't believe it.

I am not responsible to chew anything for you. The books are out there, moreover you seemed to claim you've read them - figure it out, toots. This is not the court.

No, R42. That's not how it works. You made a claim. The onus is on YOU to prove it, not everyone else. You sound like someone who argues that it's other people's responsibility to prove the god you believe in doesn't exist. That's not how it works.

^Also, I'm not the poster above who said he had read the books.

He's not as clever as he thinks he is and he's also slightly pro-pedo

Imagine a locked-cage death match, Stephen Fry vs. Brian May!

Who would win?

Imagine being stranded on a desert island with Stephen Fry, Levar Burton, and George Takei.

Brian May's hair has several 15 year old girls trapped inside

Why Brian May, lol?

R34 Be there, done that.

Why is his nose going two different directions at once?

Stephen Fry is the kind of person that the less you know about him, the more you like him.

Another successful gay man DL hates.

Fry's success is limited. The plummy voice has secured him voiceover work. His own writing has become so basic-retellings of Greek myths and legends. Prior to that he was knocking out autobiographies in numbers that would do credit to Napoleon (three volumes to date). Any dislike for Fry on here is not due to his sexuality but the sense of entitlement he exudes. He has flounced off twitter on a number of occasions when being criticised or called out. His entitled comes from a shitty second class honours degree, albeit Cambridge.

Liked Stephen Fry in "Jeeves and Wooster", that's far as it goes, much of his later work leaves one "meh". Not even Gosford Park was that great.

R54- You sound rather INSUFFERABLE yourself

Hi Stephen at R56. So, just how easy is it to lift your stomach enough for your penis to penetrate hubby?

Insufferably left wing and woke

It’s so strange that so many gay men on this website are quick to slander people as being a peadophile. Do they even know what the definition of a peadophile is? There’s some great people on here and many of the threads are brilliant, but there are also some thick as shit uneducated idiots as well.

R59, oh dear! Clearly you don't know the spelling.....

Oh for fuck's sake, R59, we look down on both pedophiles and ephebophiles! For right and just reasons!

So no, ephebophiles don't get to disassociate themselves from the pedophiles, they're all despicable.

I am convinced Fry is familiar with the appearance and taste of Hugh Laurie's considerable penis, and knows the pleasure of being rammed by it.

R62, guaranteed! What larks and japes all those homosexual indiscretions were between two good friends at Cambridge.

Fry got a lot of mileage out of being part of that study buddies clique that features Emma Thompson, Kenneth Branagh, Hugh Laurie, Rowan Atkinson, etc.

They epitomised the privileged set in '80s London, dominating the theatre world. Little wonder alternative comedy and alt performers started a backlash.

I will never understand why being unfamiliar with a famous actor, musician or movie is a point of pride for some people. "OMG who is this person? I have absolutely no idea but I'm so incredibly young teeeheeeheee". Get fucked, OP. You tedious bitch.

R64 correct, as I said upthread, he walked into steady work in the media on account of being in "The Footlights" and his voice.

R40 its me who said I'd read his books and I still say the only underage sex I remember Fry discussing was being buggered by an older boy at boarding school. Are you talking about the play he wrote "Latin! Or tobacco for boys". Know nothing about it so it may be about younger lads.

Fry is a Parthenon Marbles apologist and wants them returned.

A face with a nose in a different postal code.

I think the people calling him a pedo are hetero nazis who have no business even being on this site. Apparently dating someone in their 20s is predatory. Better tell Kate Beckinsale, Mel Gibson, Sean Penn, Nicholas Cage and Madonna. Oh wait all those people are straight and the same standard doesn't apply to them. What a surprise. Just because he played Oscar Wilde 25 years ago doesn't mean he likes minors.

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Ups, sorry, Operation Jewtree Investigation was started AFTER Saville's abuse scandal.

R67, yes, and his long musings about yhe "special club" of pederasty, and the underage boys sexualized in The Hippopotamus, that Greek myths book (according to him, the Greek heroes were 14 and stunning), that book where underage boy porn was found on the computer of a politicoan and there was a long and heartfelt discussion how he only found youth sexually atteactive, his numerous comments of his ideal being teenage River Phoenix, etc, etc, there's so much I can't think of everything! Oh, and his public defense of an accused pedo (forgot his name), he founded with Cliff Richard and other VIP men accused of pedophilia a group campaigning for the anonymity of accused sexual abusers and for stopping referring to their victims as "victims" (see link). He laughed at childhood sexual abuse victims, telling them to get a life or something (will provide link). He said a pefo limerick in QI. And so much more!

....

Yewtree, dear boy, Yewtree.

Oh yes Gambaccini! Thanks, R71!

His entitled comes from a shitty second class honours degree, albeit Cambridge.

And yet I bet he knows it's 'entitlement' not 'entitled'.

Huge Laurie joined Cambridge Footlights where he met (and had brief affair with) Emma Thompson. The two remained good friends and expanded their circle of friends and work to include Stephen Fry, Rowan Atkinson, etc...

It is amazing what most of that lot got up to in 1980's and 1990's, you couldn't get away from them on large or small screen.

If forced to say who overall has had longest and better career, would put my money on Huge Laurie and Emma Thompson in upper places. HL was great as Dr. House with few Americans knowning he was actually British.

You should watch his documentaries about bipolar disorder and his discussion of his own. He is very troubled and tortured, a lot of his pomposity can be attributed to his mental illness. His tendency to waffle on and on and talk fast is pure bipolar. At odds with his pomposity is his tremendous self hatred. He is very conflicted. Bipolar is a terrible illness i wouldn't wish on anyone.

But isn't the troubled and tortured 'schtick' just that? A bit of an act. He hasn't had the success of Emma, Hugh or others in his clique. He's become a rent-a-quote rather than an actor, director or whatever he envisioned for himself.

I think part of it came down to the fact that he couldn’t really compete with Alfred Molina who was a better actor, had much more versatility and straight. By all rights Halliwell would have been a perfect part for him in Prick Up Your Ears, but he didn’t get it. I wonder in how many auditions he competed with Molina and didn’t get the job.

no r80 the documentary interviews Fry's teachers and parents who profess to him being manic at school, he was suspended, stole his parents credit cards, went on a buying spree, went to London and stayed at expensive hotels, served a small jail sentence, he has tried to kill himself three times... this is not a joke or an act, he has a serious mental illness.

worth watching

sorry...here

He actually confesses in one of his biographies that he once tried to persuade his little sister to jump out of a thitd floor window... for fun.

He also made a boy who liked him in school to take the blame for one of his misdemeanours and the boy was severely punished. He doesn't seem to feel any remorse for that even today.

Yeah, the guy is fucked up.

if anything he plays down the bipolar, he really is unbalanced. Buys five of the same ipods but in different colours etc.

He hasn't had the international success of Hugh and Emma, but he is highly successful in Britain and probably worth a pretty penny. Why are we bashing someone who continually stands up for gay rights? His takedown of the Catholic church was epic and for that alone he deserves our respect. What have Hugh and Emma ever done that wasn't about themselves?

I can't get past the nose.

He's not wrong in the larger sense that care should be taken in accusing people of serious crimes, especially something as serious as pedophilia.

We know MeToo was overall a very positive thing and a much overdue movement, but with anything like that, there tends to be an element of a "pile on" or a few unsupported accusations mixed in with the majority of serious, legitimate and provable offenses.

R88 neither can my ass.

He's just given a speech at the Jubilee Concert. Probably thinks all those 'queen' headlines are for him

People tell me I look like Stephen Fry. And I do. That's all I have to say.

And please: no smart remarks. I'm a sensitive.

[quote]ephebophiles

Sorry to be ignorant, but what [italic]is[/italic] this? I've seen it mentioned before, but I really don't want to Google it.

It's interesting, the group of Footlights comedians and the alternative comedians came up at the same time and actually seem to get along pretty well. Fry, Laurie and Thompson were all in The Young Ones, for example (playing oiks, of course), and while they teased each other they all sorta hung out together too. I don't think there was that much of a problem between the two groups (the alternative comedians of that era don't even know what alternative comedy was meant to mean, it was a title given by others).

What are Footlights comedians?

^The ones who went to Cambridge - the Footlights is the dramatic club at Cambridge.

Comedians like Fry, Laurie, Thompson, the Monty Python guys, the Goodies, David Mitchell, etc.

Oh, so it’s like Hasty Pudding at Harvard? Thanks.

For a very long time he suggested that people with bipolar should not take medication, which I think maybe explains some of his behaviour.

R89 speaks sense.

It must rankle Fry he's liked Royal arse since the 80s and still no title.

[quote]It must rankle Fry he's liked Royal arse since the 80s and still no title.

There was a French and Saunders sketch once where they played staff working for the Royal Family who were stealing all the presents sent to the family and selling them at some East End market stall, and at one point they open a huge cupboard chock full of flowers that they say are from Stephen Fry, still hoping for a knighthood.

R89 is very right. These things tend to work like a pendulum though, they will eventually settle in a hopefully more improved place that still holds itself up against vigilante justice.

Proving sexual abuse cases is very difficult. Especially "cold cases" when pedophilia is concerned. Sometimes outing the abusers and warning others against them is the only justice victims will get.

This was the case with most Catholic priests, this was also the case with Operation Yewtree which targeted an alleged VIP pedo ring in the UK. It's very telling that Fry supports these people's rights so ardurously. He's also good friends with many of the suspects.

Interesting guy, but as R31 says he's totally wrong about Maurice though, thats an absolutely beautiful film.

Undoubtably he's struggled with being bipolar, thats a shit of a thing to be stuck with. No wonder he's messy at times. No idea about the pedo accusations, I'd want to see evidence of that

Only other thing I can add to this, he's a side - from linked article;

[quote] “But I’m not interested in anuses and penises,” Fry said. He then listed his preferred sexual practices, none of which involved penetration.

"For a very long time he suggested that people with bipolar should not take medication, which I think maybe explains some of his behaviour."

Sometimes I worry about Fry's little husband, I hope he can cope with both Fry's monumental ego, and the bipolar disorder.

Which BTW is a horrible disease, and one of the ways in which it can ruin lives is financially. People in the throes of mania seem to think that literally anything is a good idea - anything from playing in the traffic to spending your life savings on "collectible" stuffed animals. So while I'm sure Fry has earned a pretty penny in his life, I'm not sure he's still got it.

For a very long time he suggested that people with bipolar should not take medication

He had this opinion for himself, that HE was better off without it, he never suggested others shouldn't take it. As the second documentary shows, he's on meds now. A lot of creatives with bipolar don't take meds because they say it prevents the creative process. I think his seemingly monumental ego is because of the bipolar, not in spite of it. I know bIpolars who have extraordinary egos one day then plummet the next, it's the nature of the illness unfortunately

It must rankle Fry he's liked Royal arse since the 80s and still no title.

I'd be pissed that someone like Joan Collins has a title and I didn't if i were Fry. What's Joan ever done that wasn't all about Joan? Services to entertainment, pfft!

R65 In interviews, Tony Robinson (Baldrick) said as good as said that Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie were super cocky and and loud Hooray Henries on the set of Blackadder. And conversely, Rowan Atkinson was kind and sensitive and one of the most decent men he had ever met.

ps Tony Robinson HAS received a knighthood.

someone said recently that John Cleese and his Monty Python set were arrogant shits too

R107 It broke my heart a little in Sarah Polley’s essays that came out in March, Eric Idol came forward and confirmed that Terry Gilliam was crazy and dangerous on the set of The Adventures of Baron Bon Munchausen and that he multiple times put Sarah’s life at risk and in extremely dangerous situations, some that sent her to the hospital, and he should have been stopped and he himself did nothing and he regrets it now. It was a very humble and surprising thing that I didn’t imagine coming from one of them, let alone since Gilliam is still alive.

Operation Jewtree, is that a Nazi thing?

His husband reminds me of this, I don't know what it's called ... premise?, where pets resemble their owners. There's nothing pretty or youthful about Elliot Spencer. Him letting himself go would be considered a compliment. Was he depressed / bipolar on his own, and was that the common theme that drew them to each other?

Depression and bipolar disorder totally kill both body and mind.

R110 The partner is a 'comedian' apparently. So yeah, bipolar all round.

bipolar meds kill the body

Rowan Atkinson suffered from a terrible speech impediment when young, something he only recently got control off by his acting days. You watch him carefully in early work like "Black Adder" and you'll notice how careful and studied his words sometimes appear.

Bullying and embarrassment suffered by his stuttering likely has made Mr. Atkinson quite open and kind to suffering of others, and or at least a kinder perso.

"Person".

Oh yes, Huge Laurie can sing and play piano.

Forty-seven ginger-headed sailors sounds like my idea of heaven.

Fry looks like he does pungent farts.

One of his better-known comic devices is over-articulation of the "B" sound, such as his pronunciation of "Bob" in the Blackadder II episode "Bells". Atkinson has a stammer,[56][57] and the over-articulation is a technique to overcome problematic consonants.[58]

[quote]ephebophiles

[quote]Sorry to be ignorant, but what [italic]is[/italic] this? I've seen it mentioned before, but I really don't want to Google it.

Those who like teenagers, as opposed to p*dos, who like the pre-pubescent.

Had a falling out with George Michael when GM agreed to be in his AIDS documentary. George was supposed to take an AIDS test in the middle of the program and then bailed at the last minute. Fry has a love for hype. George thought to be pos and got scared.

Stephen Fry says he has never had anal sex.

That's what he told the angry Ugandan hate preacher on the TV special. ^

R119 trying to make someone take a live AIDS test? What the fuck was Fry thinking? What a piece of shit he is.

Apparently, George Michael agreed to taking the AIDS test initially, but then bailed. I agree with Fry that pulling such a stunt at the last minute wasn't very professional.

Sad about Atkinson, but like Fry, he is pretty predictable and unfunny.

Has a random lump of clay where a nose is supposed to be.

He's kind of a cunt of that public school variety.

Thanks for the explanation, R118!

"National treasure" though he might be, he singlehandedly destroyed Oscar Wilde for me with his portrayal of, well, Oscar Wilde in "Wilde." I can now only think of Oscar Wilde as a contrived sad sack who insists on cornering one at a party to spew trite, recycled bon mots.... as one frantically tries to come up with an excuse to escape his clutches to slither away.

[quote] I can now only think of Oscar Wilde as a contrived sad sack

Well, what did you think of Robert Morley's portrayal? I thought it rather sad.

Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec presented Wilde as a sad sack.

If he hasn't received a knighthood by now something's up.

R129 I've only ever seen snippets, but am now inspired to watch the whole thing. Appreciate the reminder. From the excerpts I've seen, Morley definitely exudes the sad-sack persona as well. I'm sure that Wilde was a tragic figure in his way and day, but I haven't yet seen him portrayed as the biting, scathing wit that was his legend. Rupert Everett did him some justice on (well, off) Broadway a few years back.

"If he hasn't received a knighthood by now something's up."

Well no, he's one of these Brit "national treasure" ever-so-eriudite celebrities who never goes away, because they've always got a limited TV show or a book or something out there, but face it, Fry has never had the kind of huge success that leads to knighthoods.

He's been moderately successful as an actor, a writer, a TV host, and a talking head, but only ever moderately successful. He hasn't even had a hit like his ex-partner's "House" TV show, and Hugh Laurie isn't knighted, either (CBE). No, to be knighted I would expect Fry would need not just some big successes, but some prestigious successes, and I don't think he has.

People who show how desperately they want to be knighted usually don't get knighted. See: David Beckham.

I don't know, R134, knighthood-grubbing worked for Elton John.

Elton John’s knighthood was an attempt by the Royal Family to appease the Diana grieving hordes who were mad at the old trout and her tampon obsessed son.

He destroyed Jeeves for me... I can't make peace with a pedo Jeeves. I'll never forgive him that.

And yes, Wilde was abysmal. But it was not all his fault, the writing and direction were off the charts awful too.

I tried looking up r14's "an elite historical club to which I'm proud to belong" quote and found nothing.

I also tried finding an interview with Rik Mayall and Stephen Fry together and couldn't find one, let alone one where Mayall walked out when Stephen started talking about being a pedo. What I did find was someone describing a passage in the book "Fat Chance" by Simon Gray, which supposedly describes Fry discussing "Greek love" in such an approving manner that Mayall left the room.

There have been suggestions that Fry was too approving of the teacher-student relationship in "Latin!" as well as downplaying "Greek love" in his book "Mythos," regarding it as "beauty" and "infatuation" rather than what it really is.

There isn't anything out there as damning as some on this thread said, however. A few opinions based on fiction he's written, and one anecdote, maybe.

He is a very gifted narrator. He really slips into different characters and seems present at every moment. Gorgeous speaking voice too. (My other favorites are Nigel Planer and a German narrator, David Nathan.) He was brilliant on QI, wonderful in Jeeves and Wooster. The first book I read of him was Paperweight - I still love it many years later. He has a very unusual way to see and talk about things. The fuminating rant against sex with the surprising self-deprecating conclusion in "Paperweight" still cracks me up.

You'll need to actually read the books, not just google half-arsed quotes, R138.

I’m surprised he hasn’t tried to mount a new production of The History Boys casting himself in the Richard Griffiths role.

Great as Jeeves and a great speaking voice. Certainly not handsome, but wears himself reasonably well.

Terrible in Gosford Park - came close to ruining the movie, but that seemed as much Altman's mistake as Fry's.

Peter's Friends is the most self-congratulatory pile of wank ever committed to screen - it was a long time before I could take any of that cast seriously again.

Oscar Wilde has always been more interesting to me as a historical figure rather than a writer or personality and Fry did nothing to change that.

Bright Young Things was a brave try to get Evelyn Waugh on the screen but was mostly leaden and oddly miscast. (Fenella Woolgar is an interesting, capable and likable actress but completely wrong physically for the character of Miss Runcible.)

Sorry to hear he has mental issues but what he pulled with walking offstage was a dick move that also damaged Rik Mayall's career.

His husband is none of my business as the man is an adult. Don't find him the slightest bit attractive but then I'm not having breakfast with him, am I.

And finally it seems stupid to make moral judgements about the social mores of Ancient Greece, but there is a difference between an objective history or discussion thereof and looking back upon certain details as The Good Old Days.

Peter's Friends exudes the smarmy self-indulgence that you'd expect of Fry, Branagh and Thompson. If there was a modern equivalent of box office poison it would be those three.

[quote]Bright Young Things

Anyone know the reason why he didn't call it Vile Bodies, like the novel?

[quote]And finally it seems stupid to make moral judgements about the social mores of Ancient Greece, but there is a difference between an objective history or discussion thereof and looking back upon certain details as The Good Old Days.

I really like the way you put this.

R44 Vile Bodies is a quote from (misogynist) Saint Paul to the Ephesians.

Waugh was a scholar but 21st century people are ignorant of Bible quotes.

Waugh wanted to call it Bright Young Things and then decided the term was overused in the press. He later admitted he was unhappy with Vile Bodies as a title and thought it hurt sales.

“Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.”

I strongly suspect that Fry reads and writes here on the Datalounge and possibly even starts the threads about himself. Don't ask me how but I'm sure.

[quote] Eldergays, tell me about Stephen Fry

OP, it's pointless asking about "Stephen Fry".

On one hand there's 'Manic Stephen Fry' but on the other hand there's 'Meshuga Stephen Fry'.

[quote] Meshuga Stephen Fry

One of his great-great-uncles was in Belsen but Meshuga Stephen Fry was determined to make his great-great-uncle the centrepiece and emotional climax of his one-hour long genealogy TV session.

R148 I doubt it. He has a very distinctive style.

Stephen was a jack of all trades and master of none

Stephen Fry (then 38) gave up 16 years of celibacy in 1995, when he started seeing Daniel Cohen, who was 26.

After they split up in 2010, Stephen (then 53) started seeing an actor called Stephen Webb, who was 26.

He then, at the age of 56, met his future husband Elliott Spencer in 2013/14, when Elliott would have been, err, well, 26.

OMG the only chickenhawk in the WHOLE WORLD.

So, 26 is the magic number huh? Mommas, don’t let your gay sons out of the house during their 26th year!

R153 What a weird fetish.

Guaranteed there's someone in classical history who reached their peak at 26. I'm thinking Alexander the Great? If we look much later, Bosie was 21 when he started getting railed by Wilde, so it can't be him Fry is looking for.

Boyfriend no.2 Steven Webb would definitely pass for "I look younger than my age"

What the flying fuck do these young guys see in him?

What do they see, R159?

$$$$$$$

On his radio show, Frank Skinner described Stephen Fry as “the stupid person’s clever person”.

R161 Brilliant description. That's how I feel about Jordan Peterson.

Almost as good as Trump being the poor person's rich person.