Jon Stewart Angrily Calls Out Lack of Supporters at Veterans Events for Memorial Day: ‘Where Are The American People?!’

In 1980, he could have gone down to his local recruiter and joined up. Airman Basic Liebowitz could have reported for Basic Training,

But no, he didn't. 40 years later he just wants to exploit the poor schmucks who did.

The days of "war veteran" ceremonies are long over, John.

WW2 ended over 75 years ago.

The Korean conflict ended over 60 years ago.

And Americans were not big fans of the Vietnam War.

The "war generations" have pretty much died off.

Boomers are starting to die off, which makes Gen X the upcoming senior citizens.

You're talking about entire generations removed from the big wars.

Those types of ceremonies just aren't in the American consciousness any more.

Blah he can suck a cock.

I’ll never forget what a homophobic grump he was on the Howard Stern Show when they all dressed up like sailors and had a male only partner dancing. He refused to participate.

R2 He’s really getting riled up over nothing.

Jon Stewart has really lost his touch. The issue he should be angry about this weekend is gun control. Memorial Day is about veterans but it's also about patriotism, and what could be more patriotic than saving the lives of American schoolchildren?

Exactly, R5.

Which makes this all the more relevant.

I feel like he's always acting. Like he's starring in a movie about himself, in his mind.

Stewart is an insufferable asshole.

I am sick and tired of of veterans, who consider themselves the only true patriots in our country whine about their plight. Why don’t we idolize them for their choice of profession? Because many have served. EMT, FD, Police all put their lives on the line to protect us. And what about the poor teachers who have shit jobs and now are expected to be gun toting security guards as well as educators. Where is the Memorial Day for them.?

R9 back in the old days, the veterans who went to war were mainly civilians who either volunteered or were drafted into service.

So in that sense, they were heroes because they left their regular lives to go fight in wars for the country.

Many of them were also just barely over 18.

It was right to recognize them.

But as mentioned, their generation has mostly died off. So it doesn't mean as much to today's young people.

Though it probably should.

I’m not proud of people who volunteer to fight wars I don’t agree with.

I’m sick of “worship vets” porn

Why isn’t he screaming about murdered children and gun control? If he feels like using his celebrity for something relevant.

is he transitioning to a Magat?

They heard you were gonna be there bloviating and they steered clear, you preening popinjay.

Annoying old school white liberal.

He and Bill Maher are both insufferable.

Have any veteran's groups showed up for the NRA protests or gun control rallies? That could be a very powerful message to counter the gross "real patriots carry guns" messaging from the right. If they won't show up for slaughtered children, why should anyone show up for them?

Yes Jon, MORE military fetishization. That’ll help.

r14 He's on the path. After all he made that movie which basically boiled down to "both sides bad" - and this was in 2019

Memorial Day is May 30th. Today is May 28th. Memorial Day is for soldiers killed in action. Veterans Day is to honor people who served in the military and is observed in November. With everything else going on in the world this is a ridiculous thing to be outraged about.

Jon, we don't have veterans we actually feel proud of.

Do you really want to celebrate people that raped, tortured and killed Iraqis or bombed goat herders in Afghanistan?

^^ and got Bin Laden. But you probably have a problem with that too.

Bin Laden was one mission, and supposedly those guys are dead.

He was going to the grave too eventually. Wasn't he on Death's door the very year the towers came down, and being seen by visitors quite openly in a hospital in Pakistan?

R5, I agree. I notice without his writers, he's not that profound. He doesn't really make astute points even when speaking on behalf of 9/11 rescuers. He's yet another one of these cowards who tries to pull the "both sides" bullshit when it's only ONE side that refused funding.

I'm so fucking tired of PSAs where people tell us "the politicians" aren't doing this or that when it's clearly only Republicans who refuse to do ANYTHING on major issues.

I don't thought he was a Jew??? Deport.

R11 it’s a good thing I can’t punch you in the face.

R23 you immature bastard. Being relevant ,which for you means popular, isn’t the point. You’re a sheep and I couldn’t think less of you if I tried for your inane post.

R26, why do you want to punch me in the face?

Like I give one fuck what you think. We aren't talking about you.

We are talking about Stewart pretending at "conscience of the nation" again.

R29 is for R27, to be clear.

We didn't need to bomb poor Afghanistan for 20 yrs to catch ol'Bin Laden.

[quote]is he transitioning to a Magat?

All straight white men do once they get old.

I never liked him and never thought he was funny.

Jon always seems so worked up these days, maybe he should start a podcast instead of attending random events and berating everyone.

Jon Stewart helped fan the flames of the division in this country by mocking and stereotyping poor and working class whites, southerners and midwesterners.

Life-long Democrat here (I know, I know) working class, from Kansas, and I always found him beyond insulting. It seemed to have worsened as the years passed.

His Daily Show monologues earned him may This Is Why They Hate Us awards.

So spare me the lecture on patriotism.

If he genuinely wished to honor our veterans he wouldn't have showed up looking like a bum.

So fucking tired of people with looooonnnngggg paper acting like they don't ever have to respect the causes they champion. It's not like he'd have to go without food or meds in order to buy a fucking suit or nice shirt, pants and actual shoes, not athletic wear.

R28, because he feels hundreds of thousands of Iraqis incl. a little Iraqi girl who was raped and burned to death along with her family , deserved it for "ar' freedumbz," special interest, a foreign policy based around pure evil/greed, creating enemies and for having the audacity to be brown.

Yeah I don’t get riled up over blow hard comedians.

The US has been in perpetual wars for the past 20 years at least. Why do you support the politicians who get us into these regime-change wars and other conflicts, then say things like veterans don't matter? You're the voters sending these young people into these wars. I don't agree with these wars, but if you're going to vote to approve of them, at least honor the deaths of the kids who fight in them. They're mostly poor white, black, and brown kids who enlist to get job training or a free education later. They still die for their country. Ignoring them is wrong.

I'd love to go, but I have a gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled

[quote]Jon Stewart helped fan the flames of the division in this country by mocking and stereotyping poor and working class whites, southerners and midwesterners.

You know what has really gotten old? Your sense of entitlement that white people should be coddled and treated extra special and you think J O K E S alone gives you a license to be a little bitch, because you sure as hell can't actually point to a single Dem policy geared to helping the working class with an * excluding white ones.

Be pissed at those same working class whites who still voted Republican despite the fact that Obama literally earmarked money for useless coal miners to get off their asses, pull up their bootstraps and learn a new skill so they're able to actually compete in a world moving ahead without them. But no, instead, they voted for the born-on-third, elitist corrupt, adulterer, racist, bigoted buffoon from NYC who wouldn't so much as let them step foot on any of his properties without the finances to back up their presence. And why? Because he was white and hateful. He didn't offer any policies that would've helped working class people. They can't point to him having done so. I guess it was OK when Trump wasn't telling "jokes" but dead seriously being cruel towards the disabled and non-whites by demonizing and vilifying and scapegoating those working class people, eh?

Here's a little reality check: Trump would say far worse about those people you weep for and has. He's already been caught essentially saying Jeff Sessions sounds like a "retard" for his southern accent. You think "jokes" are a problem? Jesus Christ, if you only knew the kind of shit Trump has said about those same white people, but it's OK, because at least he strokes their egos to their faces by shitting on others.

[quote]I don't thought he was a Jew??? Deport.

I don't thought trolls could be this lazy.

R40, do you think I'm a Trumper?

R42, I absolutely *don't* think you're a Trumper - that's the problem. That's why I'm tired of the bellyaching from the constant BS "economic anxiety" crowd.

You keep telling us about white, working class being ignored by Dems. You can't point to *economic* policies to back that up whereas I can point to a policy specifically geared to a group who happen to be mostly white and it was put forth by the BLACK president. They rejected him and resented him in general. You want a perfect example of the white, working class mentality? Joe the Plumber who became the darling of the right-wing. He didn't want to hear about Obama's policies that would've help the real life Samuel Wurzelbacher who had unpaid medical bills and no actual plumbing license. He attacked Obama based on his delusions of who he was. The white, working class need a reality check as to who is actually hurting them and who is helping them. And if they can't accept they're going to have to compete, tough shit, don't claim you believe in the "free market."

There is a sense of entitlement with many white, lower income people who think simply being white should get them bonus points. Then they go and bitch about something like "affirmative action" and then when it is shown which group is *actually* in the top tier (Asians), those same white people want their own version of affirmative action, because they can't compete with the Asian kids and they make all sorts of excuses as to why Asians do better - all negative.

Trump isn't their friend and they need to suck it up and accept this country isn't just going to hand them things due to skin color, but the Dems are at least trying to make it easier for them to survive.

r43 He didn't say anything about what Dems were or weren't doing, he said that Jon Stewart fanned the flames of division, and he did. I don't even think Jon is a Democrat, he describes himself as "more socialist or independent". He criticized both sides when he was on the Daily Show, however there was a lot more low-hanging fruit from what the Republicans were doing so that got more attention.

His current show is bombing - he doesn't attract much of an audience and he's likely going to be doing more dramatic things to get attention so his show doesn't get cancelled early. It makes you realize how the Daily Show writers had a huge part in shaping his public persona. He was good on the Daily Show for awhile, but then he just turned into a self-important crank.

R44, the post reads like every single one I've seen complaining about Democrats forgetting white, working class people and I'm sure he would admit that he thinks that beyond Jon Stewart's jokes. You can't act as though we haven't seen it over years now. The same sentiment expressed in different ways by non-coastal Dems who will constantly complain about the "far-left" taking over the party and "elitists" looking down on them. I sure as hell don't look down on anyone who works hard for a living. I never understood the jokes about people who work in fast food. I have respect for anyone who works hard.

Look, I wish that every white, working class/low income person would accept that non-white working class people are in the same boat as them and that the Republican party uses the former's resentment as a cudgel with which to beat other working class people. The GOP knows what they're doing and I don't understand why white, working class people can't accept it and tell the GOP to fuck off. The poster is not my enemy, I'm just tired of hearing that viewpoint because low income white people can't justify voting for someone like Trump or Republicans that makes them look very good.

Do I have to go if I’m a veteran myself?

No, R45, I merely think (wealthy) Jon Stewart was divisive when he talked about poor and working class white people. I am not anti any minority. The issue is largely socioeconomic and as long as the well-to-do keep pitting poor people against each other, the more they can get away with. As long as everyone at the bottom is pointing the finger at each other, those at the top are safe.

[quote]I can love myself at home

Pics, please!

World War 3 in Europe, Covid, monkeypox, cost of living, children being murdered in their classrooms and Jon Stewart is tutting at us. Meanwhile, he sat out the Trump era like the poussey he is.

On Memorial Day, we're supposed to be all sad about the Vets who died in war, yet these Vet are always pro-war and vote for that.

Fuck that shit

John McCain who was a prisoner of war and was tortured was crazy pro-war. His was his answer to EVERYTHING

[Laughing and singing]"Bomb. Bomb. Bomb," R51

[quote]“Rolling to Remember” is a series of demonstrations put on in Washington, D.C. by AMVETS, described on the event website as “a motorcycle demonstration ride in our nations’ capitol to raise awareness of the critical issues facing our nation’s veterans and demand action for the 82,000 service members missing, as well as raise awareness of the 22 veterans who die by suicide each day.”

Who the hell is going to motorcycle demonstration????

[quote]Blah he can suck a cock.

You mean, he can go eat a cunt like a monkey, right?

Americans are not down with being lectured by Jews.

Why they refuse to accept this is a mystery.

Too associated now with Trump Republicans.

Why are so many veterans trashy bikers?

And what do hordes of motorcycles have to do with solemn commemorations of our war dead?

Let them ride and protest on November eleventh.

R51 r52 Seriously the guy was utter and complete filth. Him and John Bolton were two of the most bloodthirsty warmongers of our era. The media insisted that everyone should crawl up his ass for being a POW but even after his experience he remained a monster who wanted to inflict misery and pain on others. Giggling like a schoolgirl at the thought off blowing Iranians to smithereens...because what America did to Iraq wasn't enough apparently. Good riddance.

In Canada, many veterans were part of the Ottawa convoy and more recently a bunch of them descended on the city again, this time on motorcycles, to "reclaim" the War Memorial, whatever the fuck that means. Absolute trash they are.

[quote]Jon Stewart helped fan the flames of the division in this country by mocking and stereotyping poor and working class whites, southerners and midwesterners.

Examples please.

[quote]Look, I wish that every white, working class/low income person would accept that non-white working class people are in the same boat as them

And vice versa.

Stewart is a mixed bag. Some aspects of him I like some I really don't. He's still not as annoying as John Oliver and Trevor Noah though. Two non Americans constantly pontificating about the U.S. ( which I'll admit is a shithole). If an American comedian went to the UK or South Africa to host a show carrying on about their adopted country Brits and South Africans would rightly tell them to stfu. More importantly neither Noah nor Oliver seem to believe much of what they say. Noah seems phony and Oliver married some rich Republican military asshole.

[quote]All straight white men do once they get old.

Nailed it, R31.

What is it about this phenomenon? Why do people like Bill Maher and Jon Stewart...once bastions of liberalism...veer so strongly to conservatism when they get old? Are they going senile?

[quote] Jon Stewart has really lost his touch.

What touch did he have?

He spent his time on TV bitching and was whining over soft targets and 'preaching to the converted'.

I don't watch Bill Maher. But he does try and tackle difficult issues. But Jon Stewart Leibovitz took the money and ran after handing the reins (and reign) to that import.

[quote] What is it about this phenomenon?

It is a normal part of human life, R64.

Stewart is on board with wokeness so he’s very different from Maher. He just comes across as angry and unfunny to me now.

Remember all the hype around his directorial debut?

Crickets.

Jon Leibowitz is old. He had a good run. He has an excellent wife and a lot of money. He was insightful about the lead up to the war on Iraq, I loved him at the helm of the Daily Show, he made it much better than it was when that frat boy was doing it. He has a legacy that is pretty fucking good.

He has been out of the loop for a while now, and thinks he ought to command the same audience he once did. He takes himself far too seriously. If he meant anything he says at this point he'd be running for office. The "I'm just a comedian" bit doesn't work because he so clearly wants to be a political force.

It's got to give him the shits that Tucker Carlson gets far better ratings than he does at this point in time.

Go back to your animal shelter, Jon. It's okay that your kids are going to college. You can pay for it. Be happy for your life.

Stop with the stolen valor shit. You never had any interest in soldiers until you calculated that they wouldn't object to your shallow, hollow, cheerleading.

Honestly, fuck off.

I think everyone supports generous benefits and healthcare for ex-soldiers, and Stewart has been a good advocate for that. The problem is he's always angry and the projects he's originated have been kind of meh. I don't think anyone wants to hear form him, about anything.

Maher was never a liberal until Trump got in, and now he's reverted to type.

[quote] I think everyone supports generous benefits and healthcare for ex-soldier

Not Republicans.

R70 is a right-wing shitstain.

[quote] Jon Leibowitz is old

And he now looks like—

[quote] R70 is a right-wing shitstain.

R72 prefers abuse rather debate.

[quote]Jon always seems so worked up these days, maybe he should start a podcast instead of attending random events and berating everyone.

Since leaving The Daily Show Stewart has lost his sense of humor entirely, which for a comedian is deadly. He's a professional scold now.

As for Trevor Noah, Samantha Bee should have gotten his job.

Stewart spent years tearing down the U.S. to his viewers and now he expects his former audience to be pro-American?

^ Exactly.

R34, You mean he called out bigots and racists, right? People who are too ignorant to know which political Party promotes laws and policies to help them, right?

[quote] Airman Basic Liebowitz could have reported for Basic Training,

Liebowitz might have been more useful in the army instead of being a millionaire whiner on TV.

The American people are busy burning down cities because a white man called a black woman “articulate”

Priorities.

[quote]is he transitioning to a Magat?

He has always been a both sides kind of guy. That 2010 rally where he and Colbert complained about the extremists on both sides was criticized heavily by Rachael Maddow at the time, and Stewart was ugly and mean to her in response to her questions. Bill Maher said the same things that Maddow did and Stewart didn't even reply to him.

When he talks about the 911 veterans issues he supports, he always makes sure to say that both sides are at fault. A few years ago he was directly asked what he felt about the Republicans who were blocking the legislation and he said it wasn't a political side thing but that everyone, even the Democrats who were trying to help him, were at fault.

He is not a MAGAt but he is also not a liberal or a Democrat. He said George Bush Sr. "had an integrity that I respected greatly" and yet calls himself "socialist" sometimes. The best label for him would probably be "insufferable."

Many years ago he was on Teri Gros's NPR show, early I think in his Daily Show years. She gave him quite a most glowing introduction and was met with a grumpy subject. Early on she made the mistake of joking with him about some small thing, agreeing with but is a joking mock sarcastic way that he misinterpreted as critical. It was clearly a misunderstanding on his part him but no amount of explanation or apology could save the interviewer or the interviewer. He was a genuine cunt and answered in begrudging monosyllables afterward with pauses and sighs intended to show his disdain for the interviewer. The thing was clearly cut short and was difficult to.listen to for his cuntiness and imperiousness.

I never had much exposure or opinion of him before, but his deep unpleasantness and meanness that day always tempered anything I saw of him thereafter.

His Daily Show talent to my eye was to talk down to his audience as if they were slightly hyperactive children and to corral them into an "us" against a bad "them.' Not something that many others haven't done and do, but like Rachel Maddox, for example, something he did not with any finesse but by brown beating an audience of the already like.minded.

Look at me! LOOK AT ME!!!

R82 I think you mean 'browbeating' in your last sentence but I definitely agree!

Indeed, R84, "brown beating" sounds like it might something else entirely! Thanks.

Two things are true: 1. Veterans literally protect(ed) their country and in light in the Ukraine invasion, is a good idea to reflect on that, and on who's asses would be in the line first and willingly if the shit hit the fan. I know some of the rhetoric can get nauseating and boy can it but let's not lose sight of the real soldiers who really do comprise our military who really would die in the streets if we were invaded. 2. Jon Stewart is a total phoney. I can't believe I ever liked him, I find myself wondering if he was always so sanctimonious, not so much on this but also on his new show. I remember at the time watching Colbert and skipping daily show at some point, this must have been why.

[quote]That 2010 rally where he and Colbert complained about the extremists on both sides was criticized heavily by Rachael Maddow at the time, and Stewart was ugly and mean to her in response to her questions.

[quote]Many years ago he was on Teri Gros's NPR show, early I think in his Daily Show years. She gave him quite a most glowing introduction and was met with a grumpy subject. Early on she made the mistake of joking with him about some small thing, agreeing with but is a joking mock sarcastic way that he misinterpreted as critical. It was clearly a misunderstanding on his part him but no amount of explanation or apology could save the interviewer or the interviewer. He was a genuine cunt and answered in begrudging monosyllables afterward with pauses and sighs intended to show his disdain for the interviewer. The thing was clearly cut short and was difficult to.listen to for his cuntiness and imperiousness.

At the end of the day, he’s just another straight white Boomer man that doesn’t think women are on the same level as men. It’s obvious by his attitude towards them.

As for people confused why people like him and Maher seem to be acting differently: they are entertainers - not people who actually care about the state of the country. Their schtick is to say stuff to push buttons and get attention. They’ve run out of liberal talking points so now they’re going to jump to the deplorable talking points and will try to cater to them now. Same old story.

Not white.

[quote]If an American comedian went to the UK or South Africa to host a show carrying on about their adopted country Brits and South Africans would rightly tell them to stfu.

Actually no. Rich Hall and Reginald D Hunter have successful careers here and they mock the way things happen in Britain. If we add in Australians, there's also Adam Hills on The Last Leg.

[quote] All straight white men do once they get old.

R31 You nailed it, and based on how many are supportive or sympathetic towards " the great replacement theory" on DL, it might not limited to "straight" only.

A lot of American People are tired of "America is #1". That feeling bleeds over into these theatrical celebrations.

I'm also noticing many more people that are refusing to stand up and recite the Pledge of Allegiance. Pledging allegiance to a fucked up country filled with fucked up people?

I think many Americans are over it.

R64, Liberalism has gone off the rails. Anyone who calls out the insanity is not a Right-winger.

R91, Top Gun proves otherwise.

He’s mainly angry that his apparent Star power couldn’t attract anyone else

[quote] At the end of the day, he’s just another straight white Boomer man that doesn’t think women are on the same level as men.

They’re not, which has been proven. Both sexes are better at certain things.

[Quote] Top Gun proves otherwise.

Um, people are going because it tells a cogent story, not because they’re patriotic

[quote] Top Gun proves otherwise.

It might be a self-selecting group of viewers. You know, Real Americans (c).

R62, you can't expect "vice versa" when the over-whelming majority of the latter witness the over-whelming majority of the former, voting over and over again to hurt the latter

And the former hurting themselves in the process

Why is it a scandal that people didn’t show up for a contrived an unnecessary event?

In addition, being a veteran in decades past meant there was a high likelihood you had seen combat or were at risk of seeing combat. That is true of a much smaller percentage of our military today. Many people serving today have a much reduced risk of combat service. For a lot of them it’s job like any other.

There is also the issue that those who have seen combat have done so in wats whose justifications were less clear. That doesn’t mean their heroism was any less or the losses they experienced were any less. But it can be harder to celebrate.

I tell you when Jon Stewart has turned into just another kvetching alte kocker, he's starting to become like my old Uncle Ignaz. He used to yell at the TV when "77 Sunset Strip" came on.

R100, the same people who claim everything is so "pc" and "woke" and whine about "cancel culture," are the ones who can't handle the truth: A lot of people don't want to celebrate the fact that we have war veterans who went to a nation that literally did nothing to us, destroyed it, killed and tortured its citizens, turned them into enemies and that is the reason we have seen an increase in terrorist attacks - that's the only reason ISIS even exists.

Frankly, it was that foreign policy over decades of invasion and propping up dictators and CIA ops killing secular, democratic leaders that led to something like 9/11 itself, but we're not allowed to have that discussion. We're just to pretend "they hated us for ar'[sic] freedom" or some bullshit about setting up a "caliphate." Every fucking excuse to pretend the west didn't invade them and then I see "Poor Europe being invaded!" Fuck them. You want to stomp all over the world fucking over people without consequence?

I'm not saying we shouldn't respect any vets, but I don't respect the ones who went there specifically with the goal to just kill brown people knowing full-well they had nothing to do with 9/11. Like that "American Sniper" dirtbag. Yeah, tell us again how "liberal" Hollywood never produces right-wing propaganda.

Are there "good" snipers?

Except for the white ones. He is such a fucking joke. You are long gone and irrelevant, Jon. Please fade quietly into the sunset, you pathetic old man.

For the past 40 years the military only has served Israel’s needs. Let Israel celebrate them.

Of course Stewart is a bloodthirsty Zionist.

[quote]For the past 40 years the military only has served Israel’s needs. Let Israel celebrate them.

The anti-Semites are drooling at this thread.

Go back on your meds assholes.

Wealthy Jooz like Stewart/ Leibovitz never joined the military. They just use it to exploit the poors as slave labor.

Most veterans at these events would want me dead. So no

Leibovitz never joined the military and is a hypocrite.

Next decade we will see Rachel Anne Maddow Angrily Calling Out Lack of Supporters at Veterans Events for Memorial Day.

It’s a tough issue how to treat veterans of questionable wars. Unless you are a total pacifist, you have to acknowledge that military personnel perform a potentially vital service. Members of the military also Have no choice in the wars. they participate in.

The guy who never served also thinks America should bring back the draft

[quote]When I say there should be a draft, I also think it should be noncompulsory military. There should be a draft where every young person has to do one year of something — military, public works — something so that we all feel invested in the same game, because that’s the part that we’ve lost.

Nothing stopping him from volunteering for a year of some kind of public service.

I'm a fan of Stewart's, but the last thing we need is more outrage for it's own sake. If you want to rant about something, rant about vets needed better care and better benefits.

Here we go with the whataboutism

R112, whatta cunt. Spent his whole career smugly informing us what a shit country the US is and how our culture and institutions are all oppressive garbage. That's his right, I get it. He's allowed to speak his mind. But now he's wringing his hands that young people don't feel invested and don't want to contribute? Boo hoo, fuck off and die.

All he has proven is that his writers were underpaid and he was overpaid.

Go back to your animal farm, asshole.

[quote]Americans are not down with being lectured by Jews.

He can lecture other Americans all he wants and we can continue to ignore him without resorting to lazy antisemitic trollery.

Jon has always had anger issues as well as being a big misogynistic loser. I still remember when he had his show he was big time hero worshipped, it was total cringe.

R111 I treat them as I do fellow human beings--mainly neutral. Probably economic conscripts, but that doesn't mean they deserve my worship any more than it does my scorn. Unless they start preaching about how grateful we should all be.

Killing brown people all over the world didn't "preserve (my) freedoms". It preserved geopolitical dominance for the transnational rentier capitalist class. If they come back and don't understand their role in upholding neo-imperialism, I've got nothing more to say except "enjoy your earned military bennies away from me".

Outrage, anger, and hyperbole are overdone. Who wants to listen to an endless loop of loud and angry speech? Not everything has to be Fox News.

r64 uh if you're talking about Stewart, he isn't becoming more conservative. He recently had a show on systemic racism with all white people discussing race (this was intentional) - basically everything, everywhere is racist and the system is set up to be that way and can only be totally dismantled from the ground up by white people - that was the most pandering bullshit I have ever seen, based on the clips I saw. He invited some (white) woman on who throws some sort of "Race 2 Dinner" parties where she charges a thousand dollars a plate to go and let left wing people wallow in their own guilt for a few hours.

But again, he doesn't consider himself a Democrat, he is a socialist / "free thinker" which means he's got that chip on his shoulder about how both parties are pandering to corporate interests. The only problem with that is that there's this weird overlap between far left socialists and libertarians (who are Republican Lite) so you end up with the Bernie Bros who are one or the other or both.

If classism were allowed to be discussed in the media as much as race is we could actually make meaningful change in this country.

The problem seems to be the class discussions always end up becoming about race when they are led by the far left. It ends up being a "in order to fix this, we FIRST have to fix this impossible problem, and it also all involves global warming somehow probably" situation, so nothing ever gets done. If people could learn to focus on individual problems instead of packaging everything together, it'd be great. All the packaging does is make it feel hopeless and then you end up with the angry people like Jon who think the only real solution is to burn it all down and start over again, which also isn't going to happen.

[quote] they are led by the far left. It ends up being a "in order to fix this, we FIRST

So true! !

R123 those aren't leftists. They might call themselves that, but they're just liberals. They are masquerading because "liberal" became a right wing epithet.

The only people who want to have the class discussion honestly is the genuine left-the economic left.

I'm less concerned with what they call themselves than the fact that this attitude is pervasive amongst Dems and is why there is so much infighting.

Liberals have been overtaken by the cult of intersectionality’s which means race comes first before anything else.

R125 is a Tankie.

Tanky not Trotsky.

I appreciate veterans as my dad is a Vietnam veteran. But, the people who have extreme worship of veterans weird me out for some reason.

People forget there is no draft. It’s an all-volunteer military so you kind of get what you signed up for if there’s an armed action. I think the biker thing exploded after Vietnam and the way veterans were treated after coming home. It was disgraceful and society is now bending over backwards to make up for it. Which is fine with me, although I served between Vietnam and Lebanon when nothing much was happening.

R131 unfortunately the lack of a draft means that 80% doesn't have to face when our stupid wars go on for 20 years for no discernible reason. There's no impetus to stop them, aside saving lives that obviously few here care about.

As for who ends up going--mostly poor men that want college money/a leg up in the horrible job market without incurring the student loans everyone else ends up with.

R112, is that really him in that photo!? Now, I'm a fat whore but he really turned into a big fat tubba lard! Is he eating his farm animals?

Looks like he just left the country club by the way! What a gaudy get-up, as they would say in Weekly World News.

Oh wait, his outfit was a joke, right?

[quote] The anti-Semites are drooling…

No, R106, the whining Liebowitz is the deceptive anti-Semite who ignored his people and chose a fake name in order to sell himself to wider market. And now he's whining.

Wasn't it a myth, all those stories about Vietnam vets being spit on etc? Like Nixon wasn't president? The Silent Majority??

In the 1980s when I was in high school, I saw a news program, possibly "60 Minutes," that mentioned there were no documented events of Vietnam veterans coming home and being spit on just after getting out of the plane. However, they did have one story where someone was punched, I believe, and had a photo, but there wasn't any context other than what we were told.

The Spitting Image is a book written by a researcher who tried to find examples of the spitting happening, but never could.

Just some CIA psy-op.

Thank you, r20. What you pointed out - why there is a November Veteran's Day as distinct from Memorial Day, is necessary to make clear.

“If they really want to honor the boys, why don’t they let them sit in the stands and have the people march by?” – Will Rogers

There's a lot to that remark. I see it as a trenchant observation on how easy it is for Americans to, with jingoistic gusto, spout off and make ourselves feel better by "honoring" veterans, and meanwhile we give tax cuts to the wealthy, and if you're poor, veteran or not, you better not need affordable health care.

I don't want to see young, poor people go into the military. I want to see the children and grandchildren of majority shareholders in the Northrop Grumman, Lockheed and Boeing go into the military.

No deferments, no exemptions, no desk job; straight to the front lines like any other grunt.

Speaking of Memorial Day, all holidays, no matter its stated theme, are, to me, about only one thing: the relentlessness of time. They, therefore, all have a bittersweet poignancy to them.

I love most holidays except Memorial Day and NY Eve. All day, I'm overwhelmed with memories of the past.

Is he talking about the very same veterans who fought tooth and nail to keep gays out?

That was the generals who did that, wasn't it?

He’s losing that great sense of humor. From Vietnam on, there’s nothing honorable about American wars. For me it’s very sad that young men and women were talked into giving their lives for the political initiatives of American politicians. With a few exceptions (drafting is what ended Vietnam) and pursuing Bin Laden), our vets have been fighting immoral wars. I feel awful for them.

Reading about the Vietnam war is very difficult. It’s a story of American political leadership and military lying and people dying in the thousands (millions if Vietnamese) as a result.

He seems to have a real hard-on for blue-collar support. He must have gotten bored when he owned middle class white America.

[quote] a real hard-on for blue-collar support

Yes, John Liebowitz (net worth of $120 million) has a hard-on for blue-collar support.

While Springsteen (net worth of $650 million) also has a hard-on for blue-collar support.

R143, yes, and people eat up these phonies and expect you to prove your progressive bona fides by joining in the praise.

No thanks.

Just remember, today's progressive darlings will also be proven tomorrow's big fat phonies.

(same for today's right-wing darlings, but of course that goes without saying).

[quote] Jon Stewart Angrily Calls Out Lack of Supporters at Veterans Events for Memorial Day: ‘Where Are The American People?!’

As an Army brat, my veteran father and my mother HATE veterans events around Memorial Day. Memorial Day isn't about living veterans, it is about the ones that died and therefore didn't get to become veterans. It isn't just a warmer Veteran's Day.

TIL: Only conservatives are allowed to participate in our capitalistic system and make money.

This retiree never stops whining.

This 15 minute whine is too long and it doesn't even have a punch line.

When was Jon Stewart in the military? Or his brother Larry who was CFO of New York Stock Exchange? Armchair patriots.

TIL: only veterans are allowed to care about what happens to veterans.

Borrowed valor, anyone?

[quote] TIL: only veterans are allowed to care about what happens to veterans.

душка, Memorial Day isn’t about veterans. Brush up on US holidays.

R151, what does the thread title say, and how many posts in this thread mention veterans?

Memorial Day is about the soldiers who died. They never had a chance to be veterans. Their surviving comrades observe Memorial Day, of course, but the day is a memorial for the dead.

Of course, but this thread is also about veterans. Someone just didn't like that I didn't join in the Stewart bashing.

^ But you can join in the Liebowitz bashing

R107 wealthy anyone does not enter the military these days. Wealthy people don't need a GI bill for college or free healthcare at VA facilities (which vary in quality)

R155, funny how him having a stage name, just like most other performers, is such a big deal in this thread. That's strange ...

I wondered if he had dementia, I read an interview where he spoke so fondly of Pete Davidson it was strange.

[quote] funny how him having a stage name, just like most other performers, is such a big deal in this thread.

He's a faker. He used a fake name to climb the fame ladder.

So, just like most every other performer. Why does him using a stage name piss you off so much?

He claims to be a man of superior wisdom and honour.

Citation needed.

Memorial Day is not about veterans

Well, life is not about Jon Stewart, but just try getting through to him....

Angry Liebowitz should confine his preaching to his own synagogue.

OK, Shitler

Ugh r147. Nothing is on the nose more than white liberals whining about white people.

Leave it to people who have a legitimate grievance.

167, correction: Jewish liberals whining about white people.

White Nationalists are thick as fuck in this thread.

Doesn't Jon realize that most military types vote Republican? What's up with Stewart's advocacy here? These people literally voted for the people who overturned the burn pit bill.

Is Stewart still liked and revered like back in the day? He seems angry and out of touch. And I’m not stating this because of the veterans thing. I mean in general.

Angry Liebowitz harassing McFarlane

This man has gone completely gaga, actively pushing for the Transing of kids

R173 He does nothing but whip up hatred towards people not himself. He's doing his utmost to be the guy in front of the torch-carrying mob, pointing the way for everyone else.

That way he won't be the one the mob comes for.

R174: I can’t bear to listen to his voice and the way he speaks

It’s like someone deep in a Cult, and his soul has been completely taken over by some malicious unknown entity

There’s no possibility of getting through to him, let alone communicate

Very creepy

I'll admit to liking the Daily Show at some point, maybe pre-2010, when Colbert was on the show sometimes. I thought all the 'correspondents' were funny-- Samantha Bee, John Oliver, Colbert, in whatever capacity his character played on the show (I loved the Colbert Report, don't like the late night show though). In the later stages of the John Stewart iteration, it just got nasty, though. More nasty than funny. Or maybe I just got older.

But when all those people got their own shows-- Colbert on Late Night, Samantha Bee, John Oliver-- they would all literally shout their monologues and they would, like Jon, talk very condescendingly to/about anyone who wasn't in lockstep with the message, and I just couldn't stand any of them anymore-- any of them. It left such a bad taste in my mouth. It's like the feeling of getting drunk and subsequently badly hungover on some hard liquor you never had before and will never have again. Whenever I see or hear any of them I just have a visceral reaction.

It's strange, I loved the show for years, but it slowly took that turn from laughing into misery. I'm a liberal (I know, I know), an old school liberal, but still, a liberal, and Jon's "humility" rubs me the wrong way after seeing his mask fall to reveal what a condescending snob he was. Not buyin' it.

Is this anti Stewart rage the work of DL's favorite anti Semite, the Unfuckable Muppet?

There's a few of those on DL. They hate Jews, blacks, anybody left of Hitler, and love Trump and especially Putin.

[quote] This man has gone completely gaga, actively pushing for the Transing of kids

Probably getting all his talking points from Chase Strangio - who sadly Christiane Amanpour had on her show tonight. I turned it off immediately. I cannot listen to that lying little baby.

He's so annoying. I'm so sick and tired of his out of control narcissism and grandiosity. Typical straight white guy who thinks he has moral and intellectual high ground above everyone else. It's normal for comedians to transition into humorists once they get really successful and age, really. But he isn't even in humorist territory anymore. What are they putting in comedians water to make them think their opinions matter in any way?

He's a shoutier Andy Rooney at this point.

I like Jews, I just don't like Jon Stewart.