Why are cats so vicious?

I got bit by a dog.

I was molested.

You have never met a pitbull, right?

Cats are little psychopaths but they are very sweet as well - maybe you're handling them wrong or stressing them out. The biggest mistake I see people making is that they don't understand that cats aren't dogs and manhandle them.

House. Cats. Belong. Indoors.

They are not squirrels.

Pitbulls don't count, R3.

They were bred to kill. They're like dangerous weapons.

We're only talking about "normal" dogs.

I love how that stupid lady stands right in the middle of the hissing and clawing cats.

She must have been ripped to shreds!

I'd trust a snake before a cat.

Cats are great.

Cats are like DL'ers, moody with disdain and contempt for everyone. I love them.

Dogs were domesticated thousands of years before cats. All cat breeds have inner instinct to be predatory hunters.

Terrifying!

I love the headline of this video, lol.

[quote] Vicious Fur Flying Rabies Possessed Cat Fight

Op is pointing out our cattiness. Hisssss!

Cats are tough. I’ve seen cats take on dogs, bears, alligators, people. I’ve seen plenty of dogs terrified of cats, few cats terrified of dogs.

And they’re vengeful. I was on a zoom call and watched my cat piss in my shoes while looking over her shoulder back at me, KNOWING I couldn’t stop the call to make her stop.

But they’re also lovable snuggle bugs and are way cuter than the cutest dogs.

Cats colonized the internet. And even though there are more dog owners than cat owners, there are more pet cats because people are nuts and will have six of them.

Cats rule. Dogs drool.

Cats are pussies. If they were bigger, I'd be scared.

[quote]Cats are pussies. If they were bigger, I'd be scared.

They make bigger ones, you know. Tigers, lions, mountain lions. All big enough to kill you. But I love videos of the people who work with big cats and get to rub their tummies and boop them on the nose. They’re still cats after all. But I do expect most of those people will get killed by those cats at some point.

Your typical house cat can be violent, and as others have noted, if they were physically bigger like other large felines (panthers, tigers, bobcats, etc.), they would likely at some point kill you. However, dogs also attack humans and, because of the large variance in breeds amongst domestic canines, dogs invariably cause much more physical harm to humans than domestic cats could ever capable of. How many people die from cat attacks?

Both cats and dogs will eat your face off your rotting corpse if given the chance. But cats will just do it sooner. Like while you’re still alive, disabled and laying on the floor, waiting to die.

R19 as if humans wouldn't eat a cat if they were starving..

Evil

Most hardcore dog people are highly codependent and prefer dogs because they provide consistent affection and can be easily commanded. People who have cats tend to be more comfortable on their own and don't need the constant reassurance from their pet—if you want that from a cat, you will not get it at your disposal like you will with a dog.

Anyone remember Miss Sissyboodles?

[quote] Cats are tough. I’ve seen cats take on dogs, bears, alligators, people. I’ve seen plenty of dogs terrified of cats, few cats terrified of dogs.

[quote] And they’re vengeful.

Why in the hell would anyone want to own a cat, after that explanation?

[quote] Cats colonized the internet. And even though there are more dog owners than cat owners, there are more pet cats because people are nuts and will have six of them.

There's a reason they're called "crazy cat people."

My cat is an angel.

[quote] [R19] as if humans wouldn't eat a cat if they were starving.

Point taken.

[quote] My cat is an angel.

My cat is an angle.

Cats self-domesticated, and it wasn't until the Middle Ages that humans interfered with their mating to create a whorled tabby. Cats are solitary and territorial. You can get cats to like each other, but for the most part it takes time, and a lot of work to do so.

Cats are ruthless and efficient killers, ask the songbird population. The black-footed cat is one of the most efficient killers on earth, but is small, cute, and looks like a house cat.

Cats do appreciate the company of humans, but on their terms. Dogs seek the approval of their humans, cats tend to require humans to seek their approval. They are affectionate when they want to be, and expect you to respond. When they are done, they are done. Time to stop petting me now, or it is biting and scratching time.

[quote] Why in the hell would anyone want to own a cat, after that explanation?

Because they’ve infected us all with toxoplasmosis which makes us impulsive and love them like little mice attracted to cat urine? Nobody’s saying it’s rational, but cats are evolutionary advanced to make us love them despite all their horrors.

I think they’re from another planet.

I have a theory that cats have taken over the internet because more people than ever before are renting and can't own a dog. I prefer cats myself but wonder where all these cat lovers were when I was younger.

They were in their houses with their cats.

Long time cat lover, first time caller.

I’m not sure cats took over the internet simply because of renters. I think they took over the internet because we all have phones with cameras now and catching a cat doing something ridiculous is easier than catching a dog doing something ridiculous. Dogs are cool and loyal, but they’re not batshit crazy like cats are. Hence our fascination with them. If they were people, they’d be the most dramatic, unhinged people in the world that you’d never want to get serious with but would invite to parties just because you know they’ll do something that everyone will be talking about for years.

I love when my 3 indoor cats are sitting in the window and see a stray cat on the property. The sounds that come from their mouths is incredible. It's as if they're trying their best to form words.

I'm very much a dog person and used to be ambivalent towards cats, but my neighbours got a tabby last year and I've grown quite fond of her. If she sees me through the window, she jumps onto the sill and mews at me, and if I'm in the garden, she crouches under a bush and watches me. She's so sweet and gentle (although the local bird population would probably disagree with me on that one).

I love both dogs and cats, but it's unlikely I could own a dog. They require too much work and attention.

[quote]I was molested.

By a dog?

[quote]Pitbulls don't count, [R3].

Then perhaps you shouldn't have made such a blanket statement OP.

Was Bootsy Gumdrop a cat or a dog?

Dogs do require more work than cats, and although it's true that dogs are generally more gregarious and friendly than cats, I have met some very, very sweet cats before and some standoffish-with-anyone-who-isn't-their-person dogs.

I don't dislike cats but I'm definitely a dog person. And I love watching cat people who end up with dogs (marrying a dog person, moving in with a dog owner etc.) become dog people. Like ex-addicts they generally become pretty hardcore about their new thing. I defy anyone to spend any length of time with a balanced dog and not become a dog person, actually. They're designed to be lovable, and to love us, and I don't know that I've ever seen anyone successfully resist. That whole meme of parents (esp. dads) who hated dogs and didn't want one being pictured baby talking and sleeping next to the family dog exists for a reason.

Because They see through your bullshit OP

There are all kinds of vicious dogs who attack, which is why there is the standard phrase "attack dogs."

Moreover, dogs can (and have) killed human beings.

Among dog breeds that can be vicious, extremely dangerous, and even deadly... besides pit bulls (which are by far the most dangerous and the deadliest): Rottweilers, German Shepherds, Mastiffs, Presa Canarios...

I have a dog and cat and love them both. They are both cool in their own way.

Unless you've been in between 2 cats fighting, you have no idea how loud, fast, chaotic and scary it is. The guttural groaning followed by ear bleed screeching is something that still haunts my dreams.

I have one cat now, but had 2 originally, brothers. Had them since they fit into the palm of my hand with room to spare. As soon as they reached adolescence they started a blood fued that could not be stopped. I did everything I could, tons of research on how to reacclimate them to each other, keep them calm, situate their litter boxes, trees, food, toys etc., to reduce territorialism and nothing worked.

The third and final fight landed me in the ER with scratches all over my arms for which one always needs antibiotics where cats are concerned. Trying to separate them basically guarantees you will be injured. I adopted one of them out, and it was very sad to have to let him go but I wanted them to have a good life. I still have his brother who is a very well behaved kitty. To this day I do not know who the instigator/aggressor was.

Henceforth and forever after, I shall have only one cat. They really are like little lions. We forget sometimes that they are not fully domesticated animals; perhaps it's that wild streak that makes them so irresistible to us.

R41 Cat kills you by poison with toxoplasmosis. Very Fitting, they like to give you a long, painful, expensive death

Same here, R42. My cat had a tough life before I got her at the shelter. She was so matted they had to shave her from the neck down, and she is not a long haired cat. It was almost five years before I could touch her below the neck, other than picking her up, and touching her on the back, just above the tail is now tolerated, but just barely - that was after nine years. She is very affectionate, but only in short spurts. When she has her fill, it is best to let her be on her way, unless you want to be bitten.

[quote]They're designed to be lovable, and to love us, and I don't know that I've ever seen anyone successfully resist.

You forgot delicious.

That sounds absolutely horrific, R43.

What a nightmare.

That situation would put me off cats forever.

I can touch my cat anywhere.

Anywhere.

Dogs are vicious to rats.

I love cats. They’re independent and you know where you stand with them.

[quote] I can touch my cat anywhere.

[quote] Anywhere.

And I'll bet you HAVE. Pervert!

You should be reported to the molestation police.

[quote] they provide consistent affection and can be easily commanded.

Admirable qualities I look for in lovers.

R39, I think most cat people love dogs, while only some dog people love cats. Hardcore cat people (like myself!) are drawn to the chaos and violence naturally.

I’m a left handed, old, gay, depressive. I never expected or wanted life to be easy. And cats make sure that’s true.

R28 Lions are not solitary cats

[quote] People who have cats tend to be more comfortable on their own and don't need the constant reassurance from their pet

What about people who have multiple cats. I'm guessing there's one cat in that group who is more dog-like than the rest. That cat is probably the favorite.

Cats are adorable they even give you presents( dead things) to show love

[quote] I can touch my cat anywhere.

The only kind of cat I'd want is a cat who would allow me to touch his stomach.

My brother had 2 cats (from a shelter). One was kind of stand-offish but did like belly rubs. Anyway, I saw something on TV that I tried on the stand-offish cat.

While the cat was standing up on all fours, I petted his face, back, stomach, up and down all four legs, the entire length of his tail.

At first, he looked dumbstruck, in shock. In time, he became friendlier to me. My brother said the cat knew the sound of my car and got excited to hear me drive up.

R57 I have two cats and they like to be touched everywhere- belly-legs-head-tail- everything- they have a very sweet personality.

My past cat didn't like the belly- or not for long- it always ended in blood, my blood.

Touching my cat's stomach is not recommended if you value your skin. She will not tolerate it.

Not just because I’m incredibly allergic to them but God I hate Cats. They scare the hell out of me.

Aaaand cats are weird. My cat wants her stomach rubbed always and forever and will complain if you stop.

Because cats are INSECURE and always have an INFERIORITY COMPLEX vis-a-vis dogs.

I'd also want a cat who enjoyed a bath (in warm, soapy water).

I like to give dogs a bath. A cat would have to have a bath in my house.

Oh, r62, I think you have that backwards! Cats are definitely secure and have superiority complexes. People think dogs are smarter because they can be trained. Cats can be trained. They just don’t wanna be told what to do and couldn’t give a fuck. They think dogs are dumb little bitches for doing what the humans tell them to do.

R64 So true. Cats also tend to obey if they trush you

For years I suffered under the impression that I had conditioned my cat to do things like come when I whistled the Imperial March from Star Wars. Finally realized, nope, she conditioned ME to whistle the Imperial March theme just because she could.

R64, the three cats in OPs video don’t seem very secure to me. Dogs are a bit dumb, I grant you that, but they are also very relaxed. Unless you enter their territory and they don’t like you.

You can buy a dog a dog bed and it’ll be so grateful that it’ll sleep in it. You buy a cat a cat bed and it’ll sleep dead center in your king sized bed, because that’s what it feels it’s owed. Try to move it and you’re gonna fight! Unless it decides it’s taking the dog’s bed.

I have had several cats. All sweethearts and loving.

[Quote] It's as if they're trying their best to form words.

"Look at that tramp, sashaying across the yard like she owns the place!"

"I hear she deserted her litter. And will you look at that collar? Petco Trash!"

"Y'all are the cuntiest cats that ever meowed. I think she's divine!"

A dog is a pet, a companion. A cat is a roommate who may or may not hate you.

I was living with a long-term boyfriend and couldn’t be there to sign the lease. The rental agent knew we were living together but the property office apparently didn’t, and when we broke up and he moved out, they declared that I was unlawfully occupying the apartment and wanted to raise the rent and Jane me sign a new lease. But I’d been paying rent and a pet rent (because she was on the lease) for year before they started this.

I told them the cat was still legally a tenant, if they raised the rent, I’d sue and I said I’m sure it’ll make a funny local news story where you look like a bad landlord.

They didn’t raise the rent.

Dogs kill people. Dogs, mostly pets, kill around 25 people per year in the US alone! More than snakes and spiders kill put together! But you're afraid of cats? Okay. I understand irrational fears cannot be rationalized away, but surely you realize the truth about dogs? By the way, the US has never recorded even one instance of a kitty cat mauling a person to death. Never once. Just saying. Maybe you can't stop fearing cats, but you really should ADD dogs to that phobia. Remember that poor woman from France who got the first face transplant? A corpse's harvested face? Her face was mostly ruined by a dog attack.

Great aren’t, troll. In fact there are more cats than dogs living as pets in human homes.

The true meaning of ACAB. They should all be euthanized.

R33 they’re actually calling on alien spaceships for backup

As R69 noted above - I have had many cats over the last 3 decades and they were all very gentle and sweet to me and with each other. My two current sweeties are both strays. The male cat has been with me for about 17 months and the female one about 6 months. They get along wonderfully and groom each other and sleep together. I took the female cat to the vet to be spayed and they remarked how sweet she was. Little Freckles is a 7lb calico and has the cutest meow - barely a whisper and she 'smiles' to let me know she's glad I took her in.

How many deaths are attributed to accidental falls down stairs, when in truth the cat tripped their victim intentionally?

I feel sorry for indoor cats, never to be let out.

Have you seen their penises? Barbed and pointy. I caught mine licking his the other day. I'm still traumatized.

I think this saying sums it up nicely: "dogs have owners. cats have staff"

Dogs are not more friendly than cats. It's just that they're friendly in a different way than cats are. Dogs are needy, begging, rambunctious creatures. Cats are calmly sweet and caring to their people (if they've been raised right). Cats like to give love to get love. And when you receive love from a cat you know you are well loved.

Weird that 75% of the replies in this thread are simply OP replying to itself.

r23 I remember this exchange:

My cat's name is MISS SISSY BOODLES!

to which someone replied:

I was NOT EVEN gay till I read this!

They aren’t - sorry for the typo

Total murderous intent:

He probably deserves it.

R72 hundreds die each year from toxoplasmosis, often with cats as vectors.

Nothing in this thread speaks well of cats.

Not even the cat lovers comments are all that positive.

"My cat treats me like shit and ignores me. And I'm totally fine with that!"

As a dog lover, I say "What's the point?"

Dogs show affection and love, and they will do anything for you. Loyal to a fault. That's what I love about them.

When I'm having a bad day, I don't need a pet (CAT) treating me like shit. I already get that from people.

I need unconditional love. And that's what dogs give people.

Multiple studies have found that preferring cats is associated with high intelligence.

That's pretty irrational. Dogs can kill you. Cats can't (unless you let an infected wound untreated).

I love cats because having one doesn't feel like a codependent relationship. You can have time for yourself, and enjoy your cat's company too, without it being overwhelming. It's like sharing a place with a friend . Whereas having a dog seems like having a needy, clingy toddler.

The cat in R86 is clearly communicating its unhappiness with what the guy is doing to it, and he deserved to be attacked. Don't abuse animals for clicks.

This cat looks like it's possessed by a demon.

Psycho cat "Susam," versus the sweet little puppy in the background.

There's really no comparison.

Cats are evil.

Shithead at R86 was asking for it. Hope he got what he deserved.

The cat is just stressed out because they're at the vet, no big deal, R94. I almost got mauled by a dog as a kid. I'd take "Susam" over one any day.

Even polar bears are sweeter than cats.

Polar bears seem surprisingly much like dogs.

They get along so well with each other.

Cats are predators. Dogs are scavengers.

R97 that is a very bad idea.

Cats are vicious because they are hunters. Humans took in cats because they killed vermin. When human populations started adapting to agriculture. There was the issue of storing food like grains and dairy. Mice and rats would incest farms and eat the food that humans needed to survive. Cats would naturally be around to kill rodents. Humans saw this and decided to keep cats in close proximity by feeding and providing shelter. Cats slowly evolved to tolerate human presence and start seeking out human interaction. Unlike dogs which humans domesticated when we were hunter gatherers to assist us in hunting and guarding. Cats so not see human owners as their "alpha" to submit too. They see humans as partners or friends.

Not to be stereotypical but I noticed dog owners tend to be very needy, love validation and attention. Often taking their dogs everywhere even in stores, coffee shops and restaurants. Giving people the stink eye if they dare tell them that dogs aren't allowed.

It is actually the opposite, R101. Humans didn't domesticate cats. Cats domesticated themselves. They followed rats and other vermin to human agricultural settlements and humans noticed that they were useful, and let them stay. Eventually the relationship evolved, but the cats started it. We didn't go out and find them to bring them to our farms, they just showed up.

Humans didn't even start messing with selective breeding in cats until the middle ages, and we didn't start breeding them for specific traits until the 19th century.

Cats have been in charge of the human/cat relationship since the beginning.

Because everyone wants some of that fluff.

R43, why didn't you simply tell them to knock it off? That's what I did and they managed to ignore each other. They knew I was boss and didn't want me riled up. I'm the parent and I FEED them, therefore they care what I think. No blood fights in my house, period.

[quote]I love when my 3 indoor cats are sitting in the window and see a stray cat on the property.

I don't because an intruder in their territory leads them to spray it with urine.

Spray urine, why don't you just tell them to knock it off R104?

[quote]I'd also want a cat who enjoyed a bath (in warm, soapy water).

I hope you're joking. Cat groom themselves and should not be bathed.

[quote]I have a dog and cat and love them both. They are both cool in their own way.

Ever notice which animal is dominant in a dog-cat household? CAT!

Giving a cat a bath is a nightmare from the depths of hell. When I brought my cat home from the shelter she stank. I gave her a bath, and it was 15 minutes of hissing, spitting, fighting, and scratching. The cat was even more violent.

It was not a great start to our relationship, but at least she didn't reek anymore.

R89, that's true of me!

Cats aren't unfriendly, they show their emotions differently than dogs. I'm at a friend's right now, and her orange cat is looking out the window - while standing on my chest and shoulder. He could have jumped on the other chair and avoided me altogether, but we're close pals.

My cat is sweet and friendly at the vet. They always say she’s the sweetest thing and they can’t believe how well behaved she is.

But she’s old and she’s stopped grooming herself well and she has tufts of hair coming out of her and looked like a stuffed animal coming undone, so I asked friends for advice and they recommended a cat groomer. Knowing it might not go well, I sedated her with gabapentin the same way I have when she had to fly on a plane. Dropped her off at the groomer and waited for their call to pick her up.

When they called, I asked how it went and the woman on the phone, who presumably has years of experience grooming cats, paused and finally said “not well”. Basically the sedative didn’t help, she turned into a vicious groomer-killing machine and they put her in a Hannibal Lecter mask for their own safety. Plus, they charged me an extra $60 for something like additional safety precautions and hazard pay. I was lucky because they actually have a $150 bite fee and she didn’t manage to bite anyone.

I’ll never do that again. She can be as stinky and dirty as she wants.

Gross, R110.

During the mice plague here, they find dogs are better at killing them. Cats merely catch the mice and play with them.

^ Cats with no experience merely catch the mice and play with them. It takes some on the job training for them to become expert killers.

Cats don't have the physical strength of most dogs therefore nature has given them other ways to protect themselves. Claws & teeth like needles, and the ability to make sounds so frightening when they're mad it would scare the dead.

They're quite viscous too, hard to dissolve.

r9 I love Binky and his owner is a character

R114, you neglected to mention the running speed, jumping and climbing ability of cats.

Cats are also more liquid

Cats are delicious!

I feed strays and the males don't fight if they're neutered.

Spay and neuter all house pets as soon as possible.

Cats are beautiful animals. One just has to follow their cues and respect them.

[quote]I feed strays and the males don't fight if they're neutered

True, but I'm reminded of two neutered males we had when I was a teenager - the mild mannered gay one (we always thought he was gay, also a master hunter), that HATED the younger swaggering punk. If they ever got face to face, gay one would swat punk one. There was plenty of room and it rarely happened, but occasionally punk was too stupid to stay out of gay's way.

This is why I love cats...

Probably because most of them are owned and have been raised by (potential) Dataloungers.

Again, R123 is just another example of cats being mean and nasty.

It would be nice if the owners bought that sad little dog his own bed instead of making him share with the cat who obviously doesn't want to share, R123. People do some awful shit to post videos online.

That probably IS the bed that they bought for the dog, and the cat has taken it over. There likely is a cat bed off camera that belongs to the cat.

R125 How was the cat being nasty ?

R101 Maybe in NYC and LA people take their dogs everywhere, not the case elsewhere. I live in NC and we do not take our dogs to restaurants, shops, etc. Dogs stay in the yard.

Have you been to an airport lately, R129?

Dogs are everywhere now!

So many people just refuse to leave them at home.

And these are not service dogs.

I see people wheeling them around in strollers, and carriers, or just walking them on a leash.

They're mostly small dogs, though.

The bigger ones have to be actual service dogs.

My friend’s cat bites and attacks everyone. It even draws blood. The cat has some psychological issues that my friend ignores. It needs drugs or something. Seems cruel not to treat it. I had a lovely cat for 20 years. It never once attacked me. I like cats, I love dogs.

Then that's one dumb dog, R127, though I doubt there's another bed.

They aren't vicious! They are powerful forces of protection and destruction and should thus be revered as sacred.

Having a cat as a pet is kind of having a little wild animal in your home. My cat ways alerts me to the bugs I have to kill bexUse she sees them first and wants to chase them

Sorry for typos

No time to read entire thread. Sorry if already pointed out.

Cats are not as smart as dogs. They're too primitive an animal to be much more than basic. And I mean really basic.

Results showed that the dogs, having larger brains to begin with, had more than twice as many neurons in their cerebral cortex as the domestic cat, with around 530 million cortical neurons to the cat's 250 million. For comparison, there are around 16 billion neurons in the human brain.

Cats are just stupid and not capable of learning all that much. Cat owners love to pretend cats are just too "independent" to learn or obey but it's simply they are too dumb to.

Lol R136!

You are going to feel the full wrath of the crazy cat people.

Even though you are exactly right.

How very dare you!

Cats are cunts.

[quote] Cats are cunts.

Fat cunts. Lol.

Dogs are more obedient which people mistake for intelligence. Cats are half-feral so they're not going to do stupid shit for humans.

To be obedient you have to understand what is expected of you. They are able to "read" people which is very much a form of intelligence. People who can read other people and pick up on body language and vocal intonations are usually very smart. They usually are also better survivors. How many serial killer victims did the smart thing in their encounters with said serial killer? (not counting serial killers that just jump out of bushes and knock you out)

Cats are half feral because they are incapable of being fully domesticated which is because they are stupid. Like gerbils.

But keep trying, Cat Lover.

Being obedient like a German Shepherd jumping at a criminal with a gun is not smart, it’s sheer stupidity.

My cat saved me from a serial killer. I dont know how she did it but Missy Pooty Boops read Jeffrey Dahmer and just KNEW he'd eat me if given half the chance.

Let's see a corgi do THAT!

[quote]Dogs are more obedient which people mistake for intelligence.

Not people. Straight guys.

Cats are bitches. I don't trust them or their owners. Serial killers, all of them.

So right OP, so many domestic cats kill people every year, unlike dogs..... oh wait.

Bird killers.

My sweet babies love me and only me. Just the way I like it. Cat people and cats…you know when you belong together.

I will concede that much, reply 148 :).

I can't believe people are trying to argue that cats aren't vicious. There have been numerous reports of their viciousness and I belive that a cat caused Jaclyn Smith to suffer from brain damage.

I love the retro chic, wild cat fashions from the Jaclyn Smith collection at KMart.

I have the worst neighbors. Sometimes I daydream about zapping them with a magical, shrinking ray gun. Here, kitty, kitty, kitty.

All cats are sneaky and kill birds.

If you see one roaming loose on your property the right thing to do is to kill it.

They're not much difference than rival women in an office.

There are some sweet and nice cats, but I don’t want them in my home. They tend to urinate in the house in spite of a clean litter box. Their urine is odor is so foul and there’s no way to remove it. Nothing eradicates it. It lasts forever and it ruins a house.

^ NEVER had that problem. Perhaps you should suggest your friend have his male cat neutered, R155.

Why are cats so vicious?

Well, like some who are biologically challenged and jeaolous, they know they can never be dogs.

They are little tigers. You are wise to fear them.

Because cats are stupid.

Dogs can stop tornadoes.

Never turn your back on a cat.

Why have you nitwits again turned this into a competition? This time between cats and dogs?

I'll have you know that when I've had cats and dogs, if there was a feud it was between cats. They all got along with the dog.

[quote] Why are cats so vicious?

That's why de-clawing was invented.

This is a great cat

Chows are notably standoffish R39. All those banging on about how needy dogs are and how independent cats are have obviously never encountered the disdain and contempt that most Chows have for everyone except the very limited circle they regard as family.

I was going to devote a thread to that cat, R164. Wait - I AM!

An estimated 30-40 percent of cats are infected with Bartonella henselae, which causes 'cat-scratch fever' or 'cat-scratch disease.'

I had Bartonella along with Lyme disease years ago, and I had major mental health problems at the time. I became paranoid and agoraphobic, and I had mental visions all day every day of myself falling off the roof of my apartment building. I was *really* anxious and overly sensitive especially to sounds, one of the primary reasons I became a shut-in, and I couldn't stand to be around noisy people, animals, etc., and would panic and yell when visiting my family and they made me nervous. I knew I was crazy and it was very upsetting. I saw a shrink and she had me on several different medications.

It took years to be diagnosed, and after I was treated with antibiotics, I suddenly stopped being nervous/anxious, stopped lashing out, my social anxieties went away. It was crazy. I felt like I had been possessed and then had an exorcism. My body is covered in scars caused by the infection.

I think a lot of the crazed domestic cats who are overly aggressive and act schizophrenic probably have Bartonella in their nervous systems.

Here's a case history of a teen boy who was diagnosed with schizophrenia and later discovered to have Bartonella. All his psychotic symptoms went away when he was treated with intravenous antibiotics.

[quote] The August 2005 issue of National Geographic Magazine had a news item entitled “Who Knew? Your Cat Could Make You Crazy.” In the article it reported that some infectious agents, Toxoplasma gondii and Borrelia burgdorferi [Lyme disease] can cause psychotic disorders in humans. We feel that Bartonella should be added to this list. In this regard, we have studied 2 people who were hospitalized due to psychoses who recovered after therapy for their Bartonella infections. Several case histories reported psychotic disorders, dementia, and aggression in people with neurologic disorders caused by feline Bartonella.10, 11

Remember, as estimated 30-40 percent of cats have Bartonella infections, and they can spread it with their claws or teeth.

Debbie Downer has arrived.

I love cats.

[Quote] Cats are just stupid and not capable of learning all that much.

I've learned enough to shit in your mouth when you fall asleep tonight.

^ animal abuser, future serial killer

OP why are you such a pussy?

No matter how domesticated, dogs and cats are animals that will revert to natural behavior given the circumstances. Cats can bite you. Dogs bite, too.

Have you seen human behavior lately?

Here in the United States, humans...usually young men...obtain guns of all calibers and shoot other humans. Shooting humans in large numbers...men, women, and children...is the trend these days.

Why are humans so vicious?

Cats are the sweetest.

This cat dad makes his pussy the star of our favorite movies.

R175 is a real asscat.

^ animal abuser, future serial killer

Eleanor Parker vs devious feline.

Evil or what ?

Thanks for that clip R179. I laughed out loud.

I love cats, but this fucker is completely out of control!

Any animal that eats its own and others' shit (dogs) is not worthy of much respect.

I don’t trust people who don’t like cats.

I'll take a cat over a pit bull.

Hahaha! That's very clever R176..

r182 I like domestic cats, but I've never understood why they overreach -- we're clearly larger than them, so why do they think attacking us is on the table? Is it because we coddle them so much? Could hitting the cat really hard once after it attacks you send the message you're not to be trifled with? Or do they just not care?

r186 Lizzy has a huge YouTube channel and all the videos are really well made.

I like cats. i have a stray who wanders in now and then, demands a snack and then stretches himself or herself out wherever. You can have a cat yet not have one. Purrrfect.

I can’t even keep plants or fish alive. And I don’t have any patience with house training pets. Love animals so much, but I can’t keep one in my house.

Let a cat keep you.

Because we are NOT one of your fans, OP.

Smart kitty

[quote]And I don’t have any patience with house training pets

Cats train themselves, R190.

Cats are very loving if they know you love them.

I think it's one's personality. Cats seem drawn to cat lovers, introverts, quiet people, those with sensitivity and patience. Cats seem to have better bullshit detectors and aren't going to waste time impressing those who aren't going to be nice or entertaining to them.

Totally true, R196.

Can your dog do this?

That’s right, what now, bitches?

R198: so gracefully! Like some well trained martial artist!

I grew up with cats and dogs, and as R15 noted, a lot of dogs are truly terrified of cats when push comes to shove. We had a coonhound growing up (dogs bred to hunt foxes), and both of our cats—one of whom was a runt and marginally larger than a kitten—had complete command over her once she tested their boundaries. She was both fascinated by and terrified of them. All it took was one hiss and her tail would drop, head went down, and she'd run to the other room for safety.

[quote] Dogs are so sweet.

Do tell!

That's awesome, R198. The cat even does it when his human doesn't say anything.