The Uvalde Police ARE PUSSIES!

What was even your vision for this thread?

R1 Trying to quiet down rumors that FBI targets and grooms mentally ill young men to be deployed as school shooters, even though they've been caught repeatedly.

That's why the shootings don't stop, the calls are coming from inside the house.

Also, that's why most of these shooters are already being monitored by the FBI, and yet somehow "mistakes" get made at politically opportune times and a rampage shooting happens at a school. The reporting and monitoring system is a farm system hiding in plain sight. They make "mistakes" multiple times a year.

Doesn’t this refute the very idea that teacher-training for guns is a no-goer? If trained policeMEN cannot take out an active shooter, how is ONE lone teacher going to be able to take out a random shooter (that has the element of surprise) whilst protecting her students????

The idea that schools need to be armed is absolute hogwash. We’ve seen security personnel and now police forces (emphasis on the plural) back down in the face of domestic terrorists.

And a teacher is going on to singlehandedly take on a shooter. Rrrrriiiiiggggghhhhhtttt.

No OP, you made a mistake. It is not they "should have placed their lives on the line like MEN"....it is "they should have placed their lives on the line like FEMALE SCHOOLTEACHERS."

Teachers have been shitted on for years while cops have been lionized yet - once again - the cops were useless and hid in the shadows while the teachers died by shielding students with their bodies.

Where's the one good guy with gun? He didn't show up for work in a blue inform that day.

There no good guys in Texas law enforcement or government.

R4 Rampage shootings are terrorist attacks which use the slaughter of innocents as leverage to force cooperation/obedience from politicians.

If someone kills the shooter before they can kill innocent people, the last style of attack has been rendered ineffective. That's the idea behind arming teachers. Not saying that would work.

Rampage shootings happen in places where the planners expect civilians won't be armed- churches, schools, festivals, shopping areas. They look for "soft targets," people who don't have combat experience or the ability to fight back.

*that style of attack. Sorry. Typing angry.

The real hero is the mother who was handcuffed and then released. While the tough men in body armor stood around, this mom sprinted over the fence went in and rescued her children.

Hey, our job is to harass brown people not to save them

Although it sure looks like many of the police are "brown".

Nothing is as it seems. Do these just happen, or are they made to happen?

And why? Who benefits? What's the agenda?

So now the Righties trust the "Groomer" teachers who are "shoving" the CRT and subversive literature down precious Anusleigh and Braydoxxen's throats -- with GUNS????

Wow.

The Rights really DO love their guns more than they love their kids.

[quote] If someone kills the shooter before they can kill innocent people, the last style of attack has been rendered ineffective. That's the idea behind arming teachers. Not saying that would work.

Teachers in the US are paid so little that they have to buy their own teaching aids for students: with their own money. They are often overworked, underpaid and under recognized in this society

And now we are asking them to shoot people? It doesn’t take Einstein to recognize that the shooters need to be neutralized, R8, by any means possible. That’s a given.

To place the responsibilities upon already-burdened teachers is insanity. They already have HUGE loads to carry. Now we are asking them to do the work of policemen....or in this case, Tactical Border Patrol Agents who deal with cartel gangs?

Madness.

What if blind overpopulation isn’t the way forward for humanity?

[quote] “As a teacher, not only am I responsible for curriculum, but I have to be a counselor at times a parent, a guardian, a cheerleader, supporter, a nurse, a custodian and now I need to be a police officer,” Patterson said.

-Texas Teacher

R15 The only ways to stop the attacks:

1.) Render them impossible, meaning instituting some system where potential victims ("soft targets") are always armed and can kill an active shooter.

2.) Dismantle the recruitment and grooming system where mentally ill young men are scouted, targeted, trained, and manipulated into commiting rampage shootings.

Option 2 requires identifying all of the organizers involved, cutting off their funding, and cutting off their methods of communication with each other. The most dangerous aspect of option 2 is that these people involved in the active shooter farm system are going to lash out against any crackdown on them with.... mass shootings. Necessitating Option 1.

The only thing guaranteed not to work is any kind of gun ban, because a gun ban creates more soft targets which mean more rampage shootings. Rampage shootings usually happen in "gun-free zones."

It’s the YOU HAD ONE FUCKING JOB!!! This is what cops are actually supposed to do with their guns, go into dangerous situation to diffuse and save lives. They’re a bunch of pussies and fake gun toting assholes.

A lot of the contact with targets is done is videogame chats and on Discord.

"Two law enforcement officials with knowledge of the probe told the Buffalo News that the feds believe the former agent — believed to be from Texas — was among at least six people who regularly communicated with alleged gunman Payton Gendron online about his racist views."

Federal agents don't actually retire.

R8 doesn’t realize Guns + Guns = More Guns.

Guns ARE NOT the solution. Look at virtually any other 1st World Country that has a shooting. They then do something about the level of guns in their countries and guess what! Bang! The random shootings rapidly decrease or cease.

Even yesterday as a reporter on Fox News was reporting on gun violence, some thug walked by and pointed a gun at the camera. Guns are everywhere in the US and need to go. NOT increase.

But mouth breathers don’t realize that 1+1 = 2. They somehow think that amplifying the level of guns EVERYWHERE here is going to cease shooting and the overall use of GUNS.

Delusional.

Puss pigs and they were funded to the gills.

More like a bunch of incontinent Barneys.

R22 Other first world countries don't have the American intelligence community controlling their country through constant terror attacks. There's no reason to think that people who have no qualms massacring schoolchildren on a regular basis will stop because you've made it EASIER for them to do so.

Guns are not magical, they are tools. Also, as I've already pointed out, you actually need some practice and training in order to kill people with them. You can accidentally hit someone, you can hit one person with no experience. If you're going to shoot person after person quickly you're going to have to be at least a little rehearsed because it's not possible otherwise.

Someone who knows something about guns would also need to be the one who chooses the weapon, since not all rifles are suited to beginners.

[quote] [R22] [bold] Other first world countries don't have the American intelligence community controlling their country through constant terror attacks....

Ah.....what?! R25 / R8, are you a q-anon nut?

Is JFK, Jr rising from the dead and going to bring guns to save the USA from “the America can Intelligence Community controlling their country through constant terror attacks”?

Do go on and grace us with your intelligence and wisdom.....

Cops don't keep us safe. They don't protect us and they certainly don't serve us.

[quote] Teachers in the US are paid so little

Depends on state. Some make very good money with fabulous benefits.

New Jersy make as much as public defenders with less education & less stress.

Less stress? You must be an attorney.

Thanks for coming out of your End Times bunker to share R8/R25! Don't forget to pick up some Wonder Bread and essential oils before y'all head back.

R26, R30 Ignorant and pathetic.

Fascinating that R8 / R25 / R31 has this to say:

[quote] Other first world countries don't have the American intelligence community controlling their country through constant terror attacks

When other posters question this, R8 et al responds:

[quote] —R8, posting from the real world

and about the other posters:

[quote] [R26], [R30] Ignorant and pathetic

Sure, in R8’s reality, American intelligence could be shooting up schools. Just like the schizo patient in Bellevue has the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus stalking him. That’s true for them. However, for the consensus MAJORITY, the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus do not stalk. And guns plus more guns equals heaps of guns. Hence, more shootings. With guns like the AR-15s that leave severe cavitation injuries, these are many, many times more devastating than weapons such as handguns.

The fact that an 18-year-old-male can purchase these instruments of destruction to massacre young children is insanity. As is R18’s defense of increased artillery in the USA.

Why isn’t there a problem with mass grenade bombings in the USA? Or mass bazooka incidents? Oh, that’s right. It’s because grenades and bazookas are ILLEGAL in the USA for civilians.

R8 / R25 / R31’s argument is INSANE. And the very poster claiming they are in “reality” while everyone else is “ignorant and pathetic” might be served by spending some time, themself, in Belluvue.

OP, you're a sexist. Why can't they be dicks? Or if you prefer limp dicks?

"Trying to quiet down rumors that FBI targets and grooms mentally ill young men to be deployed as school shooters, even though they've been caught repeatedly."

Sure, Jan! They just found some random teenage boy in Texas and forced him to murder people! *rolls eyes*

Are you Alex Jones?

I'm a Texas teacher. I am so glad my school year ended before this happened.

If these asshole cops arrest another black guy foe being black on a Friday night or pick up a Queen cruising in the dessert, the citizens should defund the whole lot of them.

Instead of turning teachers into cops we could turn cops into teachers. But why would they work twice as hard for half the pay.

Except for the fact that the Uvalde police had nothing to do with it.

It was either a standard CIA military intel job or it never happened at all, outside of your television.

R38 Evidence?

People who claim that mass killings like this are "false flags" are a special kind of evil and stupid, Erna.

R32 Buzzwords and nonsense. "Cavitation injuries-" you mean holes? What makes an AR different from other rifles? You have no idea. It just sounds scary. We do have a bombing problem, by the way.

For you, frau at R41

The effect of bullets from your precious AR15 on CHILDREN

R4 It's not that they *could* not take him out, it is that they *would* not because they were cowards. Literally right after this, a woman in West Virginia prevented another mass shooting of students by killing the shooter with her own gun. He had an AR-15, she had something much less powerful, but she had both balls and good marksmanship.

R37 Cops aren't smart enough to be teachers, not even gym teachers.

But, R44, they could just go ahead and shoot the kids themselves, thereby bypassing the middle man.

The number of victims of mass shootings is inconsequential compared to car accidents or lightening strikes. Children and school teachers frankly are expendable . Hatred of cops is irrational. They just enforce the rules and protect us from immigrants and foreigners.

Absolutely, R46; you hit it right on the head. However, one of those expendable teachers might have been able to help you correctly spell " lightning."

Isn't it the older you get is the more you see things for what they actually are? But of course, innate wisdom as a derivitive of natural good sense(s) is at play for some, though not many. Surely experience figures prominently in rational, focused problem solving. Alas, there are those among you who see truth very, very plainly and easily.

Happy Sunday, DL! 😁

I don't want to in any way take away from this incredible woman's actions - she is fabulous. But she did have a clear shot. The guy wasn't in some room behind a door.

Don't equate the Uvalde Police force with "pussies." Pussies are - at the very least - USEFUL and SERVE A PURPOSE.

the Uvalde Police force did NOTHING. They served pretty much NO purpose.

Read Programed to Kill by Dave McGowan. Here ya go:

R51 Thank you.

R47 someone finally recognizes my insight but ruins it by pointing out a typo. I guess you are black and learned to spell lightening vs lightning buying products to lighten your black skin.

New precinct uniforms

[quote] [R32] Buzzwords and nonsense. "Cavitation injuries-" you mean holes? What makes an AR different from other rifles? You have no idea. It just sounds scary. We do have a bombing problem, by the way.

No not “buzzwords”, R41. CAVITATION is an accepted and standard medical term we use to describe severe wounds caused by assault weapons. It’s a distinct term, and as R42 astutely rebuffs your unintelligent post, is known by many “in the know”.

So cease the whole “you have no idea”, crap. I have taken care of many GSW (that’s GunShotsWounds to you) and Cavitation Injuries whilst working in one of the largest inner city hospitals in the US.

Cavitation wounds are another ballgame altogether as far as what they do to living tissues: essentially they blast and destroy the tissue - much like internally released bombs to the inner corporeal system. They disintegrate the microvasculature, and even if rounds from AK-15s (and other such weapons) miss major organs/essential structures, they ultimately destroy the microcirculation which inexorably leads to death.

Don’t go around lecturing others about what they do not know, when YOU are in the dark. You come across as a hypocrite and ignorant. Hence, your arguments are completely unsound and unsustainable.

There’s been little mention of the 17 children that were injured. There is likely a reason for this, as the wounds are likely to be devastating. The death toll may increase and with the numbers rising higher, the UValde event could outnumber the largest school shooting in history.

Not a good look for the police given their controversy. Someone on another thread said that some in Texas want the details hidden.

Even if all 17 children survive, here is what another poster said:

[quote] [R176] they don't want to discuss the wounded because some of them are probably still fighting for their life. A .223 bullet will turn your organs into jelly. Their wounds will turns into knotted aneurysms, turned inside out. Those kids, if not disabled completely, will probably require multiple surgeries over their life.

R2 Show proof or get lost. Tinfoil hatter.

Why did an 18 yr old kill ten year olds? Kind of cowardly. He prolly would have surrendered if treated more aggressively. This is first time he has seen dead people. You would think the gory mess would make him sick. Schizophrenics need to be institutionalized. If he was white they would call him a Nazi.

The fact that many of you seem to believe that whole criminals would willingly surrender their firearms to the government to, presumably, [bold]follow a new law[/bold] is incredibly naive. You will merely have a nation full of unarmed, law-abiding citizens surrounded by armed criminals and trigger-happy cops.

As a female who lives alone in world where men are increasingly losing their shit and taking over our areas, I wish you would take my Glock 9.

R59 is of course statistically way more likely to be killed by her own Glock than by any cop or criminal.

[quote]than by any cop or criminal.

So then what, exactly, are you worried about considering these are the individuals actually killing people? You know damn well people don't start calling for the banning of guns when someone commits suicide or is killed by their own accidental discharge.

[quote] [R47] someone finally recognizes my insight but ruins it by pointing out a typo. I guess you are black and learned to spell lightening vs lightning buying products to lighten your black skin.

If you were going to point out specific words, they should have been put in quotation marks (... learned to spell " lightening" vs " lightning"...). Had you listened to your useless teacher instead of constantly playing with yourself under the desk, you might have learned something. However, we all know that your original post was satirical, since no one can be that stupid. But, the second one makes us all wonder....................

Will Joe Biden—and the Democrats—fund them even more?

If this were feudal Japan, the police chief would have already done the honorable thing and committed seppuku.

Most cops just want to play cop, they don’t really think the whole thing through.

R62 is that what you learned at your dark-skinned black college? I'm dazzled.

The Uvalde police weren't about to risk their lives for a bunch of brown kids and teachers.

Sad and ugly, but that's the reality.

R67 Uvalde is at least 90% Mexican. Everyone involved in this story is Mexican-American, save like three people.

Facts speak for themselves.

Police officers stepped aside to allow a gunman enter the elementary school and kill dozens of people, mostly school children whose remains were so battered by the assault gun DNA testing was required to identify some of the victims.

These officers tasered, pepper sprayed and restrained desperate parents who pleaded with them to get their kids.

Whether this incident is due to cowardice or lack of training is irrelevant.

Gunnuts insist the solution to preventing school shootings is to install armed law enforcement at schools. This incident proves them wrong again.

One of the first victims of the Tops Supermarket mass killing in Buffalo, NY was an armed security guard who shot at the white supremacist but was outgunned.

The only solution is a complete ban on assault rifles for civilians.

Who told the police to stand down?

Joe Biden called the cops personally to tell them stand down . Biden also hired the fake gunman and the fake school children to fake their murders at a fake school that does not exist in a deliberate attempt to violate your second amendment rights.

Don't recall anyone saying the shooting didn't happen.

When the police are afraid to go in to rescue the children, it totally blows out of the water the conservative mantra "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun"

The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is to see that they have no chance to get a gun in the first place.

The police may have been afraid to act but ultimately a border control officer shot and killed the gunman.

[quote]The Uvalde police weren't about to risk their lives for a bunch of brown kids and teachers.

The Uvalde police are all 'brown' too, including the chief running the operation (and supposedly the one who held back police going in). His name is Pete Arrendondo.

R69, this is bad enough without you making up things.

R2, it's even more ridiculous than even what you said. Keep in mind that those cops are in there KNOWING there's a shooter.

If Ms. Jones is in the middle of teaching the kids about the parts of a cell and writing something on the board, you think she anticipates someone walking in with an AR and a 30 mags? And what if going forward, shooters know the teachers are armed? Who do you think they immediately shoot first the moment they walk in?

^^^ Why is anyone just able to walk into schools or classrooms in the first place?

You'd think we'd know by now to lock the fucking doors. Bullet proof glass. Alarms on doors or windows if breached. This seems basic safety.

R78 Yes, how did Ramos know which door would be unlocked? He didn't try any other doors, he walked directly up to the correct one.

Make up what r76?

R78, this guy was able to get past several police officers.

And the supremacist shot and killed an armed guard at Tops before blowing away senior citizens shopping for groceries.

Maybe the cops would have responded faster if the kids had told 911 their teacher was getting an abortion

R79, assuming that’s true, that door was propped open.

R80, they didn't just step aside and let the shooter into the school. Maybe go reread some of the more credible reportage.

Who cares about the door, a better door will not make a difference but gun control will.

Of course a better door and safety protocols being followed rather than ignored would make a difference but that's just part of it.

How did the gunman get into the elementary school with a single entrance armed with a police force r78?

^^^ huh? Rephrase your question, please. TIA

No. You know how to read. You're knowledgeable about the incident to answer it.

Your question implies that the police were right at the propped open door at the time the gunman slipped in. They were not.

So, if that is what you are asking then you could be clearer. Being properly able to form sentences avoids misunderstandings - in all areas of life.

Thank you for your wisdom. I will remember that the next time I post a message on an anonymous message-board..

I think I might be on your side in this, but I can't help myself R92. Elipses have three dots... and message board doesn't have a hyphen.

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[quote]The police may have been afraid to act but ultimately a border control officer shot and killed the gunman.

"ultimately." Meanwhile, in the 40 minutes from the time the Border Patrol's tactical unit until the gunman was killed, how many children were shot or bled out from their wounds, R74?

Bidens economy has caused so much despair. This would not happen if trump was in power. The black guy in charge of police told them to stand down. The police were inside the school keeping the Mexican criminal trapped in one classroom. This is about affirmative action incompetence and Mexican violence.

R2????????????????????????

limp, mental gymnastics coupled with a pedantic fetishism for grammar and punctuation. All this to avoid the truth that a total and a complete ban of the sale of high powered assault guns is a requirement for a civilized society.

I think the cop (school officer) who was coming back from lunch or wherever was away in the parking lot stopping and questioning the teacher or employee he thought was the suspect - I think this is when the shooter stopped hiding behind cars and started moving down the side of the building toward the door and shooting into the classrooms. He might still have been behind cars at that time which were parked in front of the windows. He may have noticed the door propped before he started shooting into the windows - maybe he could see that it was open from where he was hiding.

Was it about this time that some other cops showed up in response to the Funeral Parlor guys calling 911 that they had been shot out by the shooter's car crash? So were these the 3 (or so?) cops who were on hand and followed the shooter into the building?

I think one of the border patrol agents was getting a haircut and heard the call - I think he said he borrowed the barber's gun and headed for the school.

Have we had a computer re-enactment yet? Did I miss that? What about other surveillance videos like from the funeral parlor - any found and shown yet?

Here's the Border Patrol guy who was at the barber shop. His wife teaches at the school and his daughter attends.

cops are not cooperating with investigators. Can you imagine

The Uvalde PD and Uvalde Independent School District police force are no longer cooperating with the Texas Dept. of Public Safety's investigation into Robb Elementary School shooting, multiple law enforcement sources tell @ABC News.

More mysteries: apparently surveillance footage shows that the door initially propped open by a teacher was closed before the gunman entered, prompting the suggestion that the lock must have failed to work. There must be more to this.

I don't think it is really any mystery why the police didn't go in, the police officer in charge had just been elected to the city council and he was starting a new job in a couple of days. He didn't want to die a couple of days before escaping the job as a police officer.

I’m so over this fake outrage. The media and hillary themselves to praise the Orlando police as heroes after sitting outside the club for 3 hours out of fear. Innocent lives are innocent lives!! Fuck this emotional manipulation.

Or women, OP.