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Natalie Green was almost raped

She was almost home and a rapist saw a big fat girl dressed as Charlie Chaplin and decided to rape her. If those people hadn’t startled him, he would have done more than put his hand over her mouth.

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by Anonymousreply 179June 22, 2022 10:20 PM

Why DID Natalie get all the sex related storylines?

by Anonymousreply 1May 27, 2022 8:17 PM

And then they made her look at that Charlie Chaplin mask when they opened Over Our Heads. That thing loomed over every scene.

by Anonymousreply 2May 27, 2022 8:18 PM

Eastland was a rapist hunting ground. Jo almost got date raped at the cotillion!

by Anonymousreply 3May 27, 2022 8:22 PM

It was Tutti

by Anonymousreply 4May 27, 2022 8:28 PM

[quote]Why DID Natalie get all the sex related storylines?

The rape storyline was originally meant for Lisa Welchel, but she told them she wasn't going to do it, so they reassigned it to Natalie. Poor Natalie got all the reassigned storylines.

by Anonymousreply 5May 27, 2022 8:31 PM

It’s ‘Tootie’ Goddammit!

by Anonymousreply 6May 27, 2022 8:32 PM

Natalie was a comic diversion from the seriousness of rape. The writers knew people would laugh at the thought of Natalie being sexually assaulted.

by Anonymousreply 7May 27, 2022 9:04 PM

Natalie probably just lied there

by Anonymousreply 8May 27, 2022 11:01 PM

r8 reminds me of the ending of Catherine Breillat's Fat Girl

by Anonymousreply 9May 27, 2022 11:04 PM

It was in fact a lie. Nobody attempted to rape her. She made it all up for attention.

by Anonymousreply 10May 27, 2022 11:12 PM

It was Charlie Chaplin they were after. Natalie just got in the way.

by Anonymousreply 11May 28, 2022 1:04 AM

Very Special Episode trigger warning.

by Anonymousreply 12May 28, 2022 1:15 AM

Well, if she’s going to go around dressed as Charlie Chaplin she obviously asking for it.

by Anonymousreply 13May 28, 2022 1:22 AM

You’ll notice how they did a closeup of Tootie. That because Mindy Cohn couldn’t act.

by Anonymousreply 14May 28, 2022 1:25 AM

Because Natalie almost got raped, they fired Mrs. Garrett and brought in Phyllis Lindstrom.

by Anonymousreply 15May 28, 2022 1:26 AM

Somewhere there's a man with PTSD from being sexually assaulted by a fat girl in a Charlie Chaplin costume.

by Anonymousreply 16May 28, 2022 1:30 AM

Was it behind a dumpster?

by Anonymousreply 17May 28, 2022 1:52 AM

I was almost home!

I’m envisioning a tale somewhere between The Wizard of Oz and The Time Traveler’s Wife.

by Anonymousreply 18May 28, 2022 1:57 AM

Straight men like more cushion for the pushin', Natalie had to beat them off with a stick.

by Anonymousreply 19May 28, 2022 2:02 AM

Are you kidding? Natalie was a regular at the Peekskill Metro North Station. How else do you think she paid her school fees?

The one that tried to “rape” her was probably an angry housewife.

You’ll notice in OP’s clip that Mrs. Garrett is going to bed. She doesn’t care that Natalie isn’t home because she’s used to Natalie stumbling in at 2 am after working the train station.

by Anonymousreply 20May 28, 2022 2:17 AM

Sienna D'enema (of Jiz fame) redubbed these scenes to perfection. Sadly he seemed to have deleted it of of youtube. Some of the funniest shit I ever heard.

Anyway, anyone find it inexplicable hilarious that phat Natalie was almost raped while dressed as Chaplin? Tell me that image ain't funny.

by Anonymousreply 21May 28, 2022 2:26 AM


by Anonymousreply 22May 28, 2022 2:28 AM

That rape would have taken too long. Natalie needed to be rolled in flour so the rapist could find the wet spot.

by Anonymousreply 23May 28, 2022 2:33 AM

The Charlie Chaplin walk doesn’t lend itself well to outrunning sexual predators.

by Anonymousreply 24May 28, 2022 2:33 AM

It was her stache that made him do it.

They gave her that episode to point out how rape is an act of violence, not attraction.

by Anonymousreply 25May 28, 2022 7:27 AM

Rape! Rape!

by Anonymousreply 26May 28, 2022 7:41 AM

Why didn't she mime the attack?

by Anonymousreply 27May 28, 2022 7:45 AM

She was asking for it, dressing like a tramp!

by Anonymousreply 28May 28, 2022 7:58 AM

She looked like Rene Zellwigger before her learning to suppress her appetite.

by Anonymousreply 29May 28, 2022 8:00 AM

[quote]And then they made her look at that Charlie Chaplin mask when they opened Over Our Heads. That thing loomed over every scene.

Are you kidding, Natalie was completely turned on by the Chaplin mask after that - she pretended to kiss it while she had long extended sessions with her vibrator...

Mrs. Garrett finally had to speak to her, because her sex toys were causing electrical brown outs at Eastland!

by Anonymousreply 30May 28, 2022 8:41 AM

What’s this show?

by Anonymousreply 31May 28, 2022 8:58 AM

The Facts of Life. It was a spin-off from Diff’rent Strokes.

by Anonymousreply 32May 28, 2022 2:52 PM

R21, WHET Sienna D'enema? I liked his Jiz and Golden Shower Girls series.

R30, wasn't Natalie the first one in the group to lose her virginity?

by Anonymousreply 33May 28, 2022 3:02 PM

Well she certainly wasn’t the LITTLE tramp!!

by Anonymousreply 34May 28, 2022 3:13 PM

After Natalie’s attempted rape experience she turned down free concert tickets, from Blair, to see Bruce Springsteen in NYC. So Mrs Garrett had an self defense instructor come to Eastland cafeteria to teach the basics to the girls. Blair wore a Karate inspired outfit she bought after watching the miniseries Shogun on NBC. Jo wore mens hanes sweats. Tootie wore her Eastland track suit. Natalie wore jeans and an eggplant sweatshirt. Mrs G wore a denim blue jumpsuit with a gold zipper. The self defense instructor wore a burgundy velour track suit. They learned how to jab a would-be attacker’s face with a Dum Dum lollipop stick, keys and a hairbrush across the eyes. The instructor taught Edna Garrett to yell FIRE!!

by Anonymousreply 35May 28, 2022 5:20 PM

I hope her attacker was apprehended

by Anonymousreply 36May 28, 2022 7:31 PM

R35 Wait, they really used the yell “Fire” when being attacked in that episode? The third time I was mugged, in broad daylight at twelve noon with witnesses watching I did have the piece of mind to do that and it actually caused the two attackers to flee, but I thought I had learned that from the time on the hard streets of NYC, not from FoL?

by Anonymousreply 37May 28, 2022 8:08 PM

R37 FOL all the way. 1981.

by Anonymousreply 38May 28, 2022 8:13 PM

Was it rape rape?

by Anonymousreply 39May 28, 2022 8:16 PM

Was it Chaplin Chaplin?

by Anonymousreply 40May 28, 2022 8:20 PM

“Attempted” rape.

by Anonymousreply 41May 28, 2022 8:24 PM

[quote] Well, if she’s going to go around dressed as Charlie Chaplin she [is] obviously asking for it.

Damn straight. Felice Schachter wisely went as Buster Keaton, and everyone left her alone.

by Anonymousreply 42May 28, 2022 8:30 PM

Mindy Cohn's acting at the OP's clip is just awful.

by Anonymousreply 43May 28, 2022 8:35 PM

Tootie went to the party in a full length tube dress as Diana Ross. Nobody tried to rape her.

by Anonymousreply 44May 28, 2022 8:35 PM

Jo went as Peter Fonda in Easy Rider. That was an odd choice for a budding lesbian in 1981.

Blair went as 60s era Jane Fonda, not early 80s Jane Fonda Workout, that was hugely popular at the time. Another odd choice especially she didn’t wear a costume. All she had was a picketing sign.

by Anonymousreply 45May 28, 2022 8:39 PM

Mrs. Garrett wanted to go as Theda Bara, but she had to stay in the dorm.

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by Anonymousreply 46May 28, 2022 8:45 PM

Was it a pity rape?

by Anonymousreply 47May 28, 2022 9:00 PM

R46 the woman with the deranged eyes.

by Anonymousreply 48May 28, 2022 9:06 PM

R46 And she couldn’t find a metal snake headed bra to fit her bazoombas.

by Anonymousreply 49May 28, 2022 9:19 PM

The creep didn’t think Charlie Chaplin could talk, much less try to scream.

by Anonymousreply 50May 28, 2022 9:24 PM

I think it was suspicious that Natalie pre-made several silent movie caption cards addressing a rape situation.

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by Anonymousreply 51May 28, 2022 10:00 PM

Oh, big woo. I was attacked in that abandoned mall in broad daylight.

by Anonymousreply 52May 28, 2022 10:01 PM

I had a dream about that last night, r52. Only it was at The Mall of America and I was attacking Anthony.

by Anonymousreply 53May 28, 2022 10:45 PM

[quote] Natalie probably just lied there

Do you mean that Natalie lied to the other girls and Mrs G. about almost being raped? Or did you mean that she just laid on the ground still while some perv dry humped her?

by Anonymousreply 54May 28, 2022 11:56 PM

Any Natalie Green fans??

by Anonymousreply 55May 29, 2022 7:14 PM

[quote] The rape storyline was originally meant for Lisa Welchel, but she told them she wasn't going to do it, so they reassigned it to Natalie. Poor Natalie got all the reassigned storylines.

No, the losing of virginity was originally meant for Whelchel and she turned it down because she was a Christian and didn't want her fans to think it was okay to have pre-marital sex. So after much consideration (and realizing that Jo was a lesbian, Tootie was black and Edna had probably given it up already) they settled on Natalie. But only after all the other girls from Season 1 refused to come back.

by Anonymousreply 56May 29, 2022 7:20 PM

R44 Tootie could barely walk in that outfit. I remember as a child watching this episode with my older sister who said if the attacker had gone after Tootie, she'd would never have had a chance.

by Anonymousreply 57May 29, 2022 7:55 PM

[quote]Natalie Green was almost raped


by Anonymousreply 58May 29, 2022 10:31 PM

I heard they asked Natalie to make a papier-mâché bust of the man who attacked her, but when she delivered it to the police station they later only threw it away.

by Anonymousreply 59May 29, 2022 11:00 PM

Another teen harlot, walking around with a mattress on her back.

She should have been expelled, I tell you.

by Anonymousreply 60May 29, 2022 11:39 PM

[quote] Any Natalie Green fans??

(Raising hand)

by Anonymousreply 61May 29, 2022 11:49 PM

I'm telling ya, Tootie...his big hard penis was this close to penetrating my vulva....

Oh hi Mrs. G, yeah, I'm still pretty upset about the rape attempt...could ya bring me some more donuts

by Anonymousreply 62May 30, 2022 12:00 AM

^ then I accidentally farted and it seemed to frighten him for some reason.

by Anonymousreply 63May 30, 2022 12:02 AM

[quote] Natalie Green was almost raped

That fat thing?

by Anonymousreply 64May 30, 2022 12:03 AM

Natalie's in trouble.....make it a double!

by Anonymousreply 65May 30, 2022 12:03 AM

That's nothing, Nat...Jermaine Jackson came "this close" to fucking me...and I prolly could've had his brother Michael too!

by Anonymousreply 66May 30, 2022 12:07 AM

The influence of this "type" of girls is one of the reasons I had to pull Christina out of the Eastland School!

by Anonymousreply 67May 30, 2022 12:10 AM

I think you're underreacting, Mrs. Garrett!

by Anonymousreply 68May 30, 2022 12:27 AM


Natalie GREEN is EATING a meatball sandwich RIGHT OUT IN CLASS!

by Anonymousreply 69May 30, 2022 1:38 AM

Mrs. Garrett, my compliments to your school on its impeccable reputation

by Anonymousreply 70May 30, 2022 3:11 AM

But was she almost "almost"?

by Anonymousreply 71May 30, 2022 6:35 AM

Was this the same season where Tootie's never-again-mentioned brother Marshall fell victim to an SUI? (Skiing Under the Influence?)

by Anonymousreply 72May 30, 2022 11:25 AM

Marshall loved booze and driving

by Anonymousreply 73May 30, 2022 5:22 PM

It’s always the fatties who “fear assault” the most in real life too.

Hey fatty, telling me I’m being disrespectful for lusting for you with my eyes — guess what? You’re very much barking up the wrong tree.

by Anonymousreply 74May 30, 2022 5:28 PM

I was VIOLATED....

I mean...he almost....

He touched my breasts...

Could someone pass the donuts, please...I'm still struggling

by Anonymousreply 75May 30, 2022 6:30 PM

You think Peekskill is dangerous? Try We Ho!

I don't feel safe!

by Anonymousreply 76May 30, 2022 6:32 PM

This episode seems like what someone would write their dissertation on.

by Anonymousreply 77May 30, 2022 6:38 PM

I’m glad Mr Parker talked to the school board about getting me a raise. I hated working nights at Howard Johnson’s and I didn’t want to think about the possibility of eating dog food in the future.

by Anonymousreply 78May 30, 2022 6:41 PM

^ "Wait for Your Laugh: On Normalized Rape Culture As A Fact Of Life."

By Xavieria Amarylis Womynsdottir, PhD.

by Anonymousreply 79May 30, 2022 6:42 PM


by Anonymousreply 80May 30, 2022 7:25 PM

I get kind of sad watching the shows from FOL 1981-1982 season. I was in the 4th grade and my life was happy at that particular time.

by Anonymousreply 81May 30, 2022 9:25 PM

^ if the male patriarchy is oppressing you or denying you your happiness...

I will help you shut that shit down...I mean, if you are a woman

by Anonymousreply 82May 30, 2022 9:45 PM

Something about her makes my stomach upset.

by Anonymousreply 83May 31, 2022 1:32 AM

Forty years later, I'm still a wee bit in platonic love with Mindy Cohn.

by Anonymousreply 84May 31, 2022 1:36 AM

This must be the 3,742nd time this has come up on DL.

by Anonymousreply 85May 31, 2022 2:34 AM

^ We were triggered and we are still working through our trauma...do you have a problem with that?

by Anonymousreply 86May 31, 2022 2:48 AM

"Send In The Clown: Natalie Green And The Queering of Gender In Sexual Assault Narratives," by Xavieria Amarylis Womynsdottir, PhD.

by Anonymousreply 87May 31, 2022 5:06 AM

Only because you're a disingenuous asshole, R86

by Anonymousreply 88May 31, 2022 5:43 AM

I had no idea what any of this was about before reading this thread and am still in hysterics over it.

Also, why was the audience clapping after hearing her story? "I was almost home..." *thunderous applause*.

by Anonymousreply 89May 31, 2022 9:00 AM

R89 - the audience was impressed that Natalie actually walked anywhere.

by Anonymousreply 90May 31, 2022 10:28 PM

if it was male stripper Cliff or Blair's first boyfriend, gorgeous Steve (played by greg bradford) ole Natalie should have been begging for it!...

by Anonymousreply 91May 31, 2022 10:31 PM

The rapist could tell that she was into it so he took off in disgust.

by Anonymousreply 92May 31, 2022 10:57 PM

Was she working at the taco place then? Maybe she ripped a bean & cheese shart that made her would-be attacker's eyes water.

by Anonymousreply 93June 1, 2022 2:55 AM

Look, you dress up as Charlie Chaplin, sooner or later you'll eventually get raped.

This is from one who knows.

by Anonymousreply 94June 1, 2022 3:56 AM

93, according to Grace and Frankie, elders are supposed to soil themselves, to ward off attackers. In Natalie's case, I think the reverse happened. The attacker ripped her bowler and stache off, and in shock, lost continence. Possibly lost consciousness, too,

Her best defense was her offensiveness.

by Anonymousreply 95June 1, 2022 7:03 AM

Who wouldn't want some of Mindy Cohn's pussy?

by Anonymousreply 96June 1, 2022 7:15 AM

I couldn't fuck that, even with your dick!

by Anonymousreply 97June 1, 2022 7:18 AM

[quote] then I accidentally farted and it seemed to frighten him

I once read that you should fart if you're about to be raped. it will drive the rapist away. Ive always remembered that piece of advice.

by Anonymousreply 98June 1, 2022 7:44 AM

I bet he ran when she unhinged her jaw and tried to eat him, like she did in "It".

by Anonymousreply 99June 1, 2022 7:50 AM

It was actually "Strange" Cindy Webster who approached Natalie in the dark that night...

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by Anonymousreply 100June 1, 2022 8:57 AM

[quote] Who wouldn't want some of Mindy Cohn's pussy?

Why does it smell like Doritos?

by Anonymousreply 101June 1, 2022 11:40 AM

[quote] I once read that you should fart if you're about to be raped.

I'm not sure if I should feel impressed or appalled that you can fart at will.

by Anonymousreply 102June 1, 2022 11:41 AM

There was a farter who was a celebrity in Paris because he could fart at will. He put on shows, quite like Louis CK or Ricky Gervais.

by Anonymousreply 103June 1, 2022 11:45 AM

R103 - It's a gas!

by Anonymousreply 104June 1, 2022 11:56 AM

Natalie Green was almost raped!

by Anonymousreply 105June 1, 2022 12:08 PM

Mrs G's head was fucking huge! I heard she had to get steel wrapped around her vertebrae in order to hold up her huge pumpkin.

by Anonymousreply 106June 1, 2022 12:27 PM

Off topic, but I wanted to see Mrs. Garrett, turned into a Horny lonely old woman for a time, having her way seducing and being seduced into a secret dirty affair with Blair's boyfriend, the male stripper Cliff..... the motherly son relationship turned to sex! her horny for him and him thinking what the heck, old women need screwing too, besides, she does have way bigger breasts than blair, so why not!...

then ole cliff turns her on to the other male strippers at the club, and for a time, ole horny mrs. garrett is getting screwed and rotating with all of the strippers! laugh! i know, i know! i'm bizarre and kinky!

by Anonymousreply 107June 1, 2022 1:03 PM

This is such a rude and fun thread🤣

by Anonymousreply 108June 1, 2022 4:56 PM

You’re supposed to shit if rape is attempted

by Anonymousreply 109June 1, 2022 8:01 PM

Why didn’t she just lay back and enjoy it?

by Anonymousreply 110June 1, 2022 9:39 PM

He took off r110

by Anonymousreply 111June 1, 2022 10:28 PM

Sure, Natalie.

And I "almost" went all the way with a guy.

by Anonymousreply 112June 1, 2022 10:58 PM

Look at that whore Chaplin shakin his ass

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by Anonymousreply 113June 1, 2022 10:59 PM

^ Those mincing little steps...

her jiggling ass...

she knew exactly what she was doing!

by Anonymousreply 114June 2, 2022 2:48 AM

Mrs G could have smashed that black rapist bastard to death with her huge fucking head. One bop and Negro be down to hell where he belong.

by Anonymousreply 115June 2, 2022 12:20 PM

Do we know, was there a serial rapist loose on campus that season?

by Anonymousreply 116June 2, 2022 12:44 PM

Oh wait... was she a great, big, fat person?

by Anonymousreply 117June 4, 2022 8:59 AM

This show was before I was born and that clip is the first time I’ve ever watched anything from it. Wow, the acting was terrible! How the hell did that show stay on for more than a few episodes?😳

by Anonymousreply 118June 4, 2022 9:26 AM

R118, same! And I am as perplexed as you!

by Anonymousreply 119June 4, 2022 9:27 AM

R119 It was like watching a parody skit on Saturday Night Live!

by Anonymousreply 120June 4, 2022 9:31 AM

It’s interesting because Season 1 was a bomb. It was NBC’s lowest rated show.

In its first season, it had many more girls and part of the problem was that there were too many characters to follow. They retooled the show by getting rid of most of the girls (including young Molly Ringwald) and kept the beautiful stuck up girl, the black girl and the fat girl. The lesbian girl was later added.

Who knows why NBC stuck with the show after it’s dismal first season, but starting with Season 2 the ratings picked up. It was never in the Top 10 shows, but it sat comfortably in the Nielsen 25-35 range.

My guess is that NBC stuck with it because it was cheap to produce and target towards teenage girls. Believe it or not, there were special episodes. I think the girls went to Paris and Australia.

by Anonymousreply 121June 4, 2022 11:08 AM

R118 For the same reason Golden Girls stayed on the air. It had only a handful of episodes or scenes that were actually funny. Peeps loved crap in the 80s.

by Anonymousreply 122June 4, 2022 11:16 AM

[quote]My guess is that NBC stuck with it because it was cheap to produce and target towards teenage girls.

Well, you just keep thinkin' that darlin'

because me and other girls sucked a lot of executive cock to keep that show going...

by Anonymousreply 123June 4, 2022 11:17 AM

Was it a show that deal with a "very special theme" every week?

by Anonymousreply 124June 4, 2022 11:46 AM

R118 it was also a Norman Lear show too and he had power at that time

by Anonymousreply 125June 4, 2022 11:48 AM

What nights of the week was this on throughout its run?

by Anonymousreply 126June 4, 2022 12:10 PM

R125, Facts of Life wasn’t a Norman Lear show. You can tell that because nobody is yelling and slamming doors.

by Anonymousreply 127June 4, 2022 12:45 PM

[quote] How the hell did that show stay on for more than a few episodes?

They got rid of Felice Schacter, that's why.

by Anonymousreply 128June 4, 2022 1:02 PM

R122, PLEASE share what sitcoms you think are funny if you believe The Golden Girls only had a handful of funny episodes.

by Anonymousreply 129June 4, 2022 1:05 PM

[quote] What nights of the week was this on throughout its run?

I think earlier seasons may have been a Tuesday or Wednesday. Around the Over Our Heads era, it became the anchor for the Saturday night lineup.

by Anonymousreply 130June 4, 2022 1:06 PM

Felipe was a real downer, she was like the equivalent of box office poison to TV shows.

by Anonymousreply 131June 4, 2022 1:08 PM

I was in my 20's when the whole TGIF phenomenon was happening. I've never been able to sit through an episode of Full House or Family Matters.

I wouldn't expect anyone who wasn't a teen or pre-teen in the 80's to understand the appeal of FOL.

by Anonymousreply 132June 4, 2022 1:23 PM

[quote] Felipe was a real downer, she was like the equivalent of box office poison to TV shows.

Who is this Felipe? Some pioneer of gender pronouns?

by Anonymousreply 133June 4, 2022 1:31 PM

Sorry, self corrected Felice for some reason, Felice Schachter who somehow got many Hollywood opportunities with very little talent.

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by Anonymousreply 134June 4, 2022 1:37 PM

Nat may have called it an attempted rape...

but I could feel the heat from her throbbing vagina for weeks afterward!

That fat girl was "turnt on"!

by Anonymousreply 135June 4, 2022 9:01 PM

Didn't Natalie had two marriage proposals in a reunion movie? Were we really supposed to believe that?

by Anonymousreply 136June 4, 2022 9:07 PM

If sitcoms can convince us a fat guy can marry a beautiful woman, they can also convince us a fat chick can pull some decent-looking men. 😛

by Anonymousreply 137June 4, 2022 9:24 PM

R136, Nat was using a website for Chub-Chasers at the time...

and one of them just wanted to feed her for his YouTube channel

by Anonymousreply 138June 4, 2022 9:55 PM

r129 has stated her boundaries!

by Anonymousreply 139June 4, 2022 9:57 PM

R127 uh yes it was as well as Diff'rent Strokes, did you not see the December episode of Live in front of a Studio Audience which had DS and FOL episodes done live

And Norman Lear was there as it's his show, he produces it through his production company Embassy

Kim Fields and Mindy Cohn even tweeted pictures of him and thanked him for creating th show, which he based off his real life daughter in an all girls boarding school and Mindy even said "Norman came to my school and cast me with Charlotte Rae and Alan Horn, he changed my life forever"

by Anonymousreply 140June 5, 2022 1:03 PM

R134... because she had that dark haired, blue eyed prettiness model type look... (think connie selleca, stefanie kramer, etc) that was "in" at the time. That's how she got work.

by Anonymousreply 141June 5, 2022 1:04 PM

First she was passed over as Kimberly on Diff'rent Strokes, then she was first cast of Facts of Life only to be the first fired.

by Anonymousreply 142June 5, 2022 1:14 PM

R121: NBC stuck with TFOL (opting to "re-tool") because they'd been mired in third place for years, and were completely desperate for half-hour comedies. At the start of the 1979-80 season, they only had TWO sitcoms on their schedule -- Diff'rent Strokes & Hello, Larry (which were paired together on Wednesday night).

They tried-out several others (in addition to TFOL) as midseason/spring replacements on Friday & Saturday nights -- Here's Boomer, Me & Maxx, Joe's World, Sanford (no Son), and Good Time Harry. They all sucked.

As R118 commented, being a Norman Lear show (and a spin-off from the very popular Diff'rent Strokes) definitely factored into it. Given his track-record, the NBC execs probably figured if there was a show that could be re-tooled and "turned around"...it was going to be the show from Lear's production company. (note: NBC also tried to re-tool Sanford, given how popular the original Sanford & Son and Redd Foxx had been, but it didn't work/last)

by Anonymousreply 143June 5, 2022 9:15 PM

^^^ Aye, that should have been: "As R125 commented..." (not R118)

by Anonymousreply 144June 5, 2022 9:18 PM

Natalie Green almost raped who?

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by Anonymousreply 145June 5, 2022 9:57 PM

[quote] I think earlier seasons may have been a Tuesday or Wednesday. Around the Over Our Heads era, it became the anchor for the Saturday night lineup.

Season 1 = Friday night

Seasons 2 - 6 = Wednesday night

Seasons 7 - 9 = Saturday night

by Anonymousreply 146June 5, 2022 10:31 PM

I'm still have nightmares.

by Anonymousreply 147June 5, 2022 10:36 PM

If wacko Jacko raped her the tabs headlines: Nataleeeeheeeeee!

by Anonymousreply 148June 5, 2022 11:27 PM

Can;t rape the willing. This is why I don't comprehend gay rape.

by Anonymousreply 149June 5, 2022 11:29 PM

The Facts of Life's season-ending Nielsen rankings:

1979–1980 – #74

1980–1981 – #26

1981–1982 – #24 (Tied with Little House on the Prairie)

1982–1983 – #36

1983–1984 – #25

1984–1985 – #30

1985–1986 – #27

1986–1987 – #31

1987–1988 – #38 (Tied with Highway to Heaven)

On one of those E! True Hollywood Story/Behind the Sitcom Scandals-type programs, a former NBC exec, or a t.v. critic/historian (I can't recall which), talked about FOL's ratings and its somewhat surprising longevity -- given how awfully things started & that it never cracked the Top 20 in the end-of-season Nielsen rankings.

FOL was the highest-ranked show in its *time slot* only three times during its run (S2, S3 & S7). But it was NEVER third/last in its time-slot (after S1)...and that mattered. It was opposite Dynasty for a couple seasons on Wednesday (while it shot to #1/ became a sensation) and FOL still held its own, always coming in #2 in the time-slot. The guy described it as "the little show that could". It just kept plugging along at #2 in its time slot, doing well enough to not be cancelled.

by Anonymousreply 150June 6, 2022 12:41 AM

Wow, given how popular the show was I figured it would've been in the top 20 for a few seasons.

by Anonymousreply 151June 6, 2022 12:58 AM

The rapist didn't go after Tootie because she was carrying a switchblade just like the real Diana Ross.

The rapist was also dressed like Ronald McDonald.

by Anonymousreply 152June 6, 2022 1:11 AM

Then he should have used his brain and offered Natalie a free Happy Meal.

by Anonymousreply 153June 6, 2022 1:13 AM

I would imagine the demographic for FOL was also pretty young (and completely opposite that of Dynasty, gaylings excluded), so I can see why it would have staying power with the network.

by Anonymousreply 154June 6, 2022 1:23 AM

FOL had some things going for it, as time marched on. Namely that we Gen-Xers felt a connection to those characters, as they aged in "real-time"....from high school to college and beyond.

by Anonymousreply 155June 6, 2022 1:57 AM

[quote] Facts of Life wasn’t a Norman Lear show. You can tell that because nobody is yelling and slamming doors.

Clearly, R127 hasn't watched an episode with Jo Polniaczek.

by Anonymousreply 156June 6, 2022 4:28 AM

[quote]Natalie Green was almost raped

Then he ran away so fast...

And I had to finish myself off lying there in those bushes.

I guess I made a lot of noise, because eventually a security guard came and shined his light on me and told me to get dressed.

by Anonymousreply 157June 6, 2022 5:23 AM

I don’t mean to victim-blame, but maybe this wouldn’t have happened if she wasn’t dressed as Charlie Chaplin?

by Anonymousreply 158June 6, 2022 6:55 AM

Fun fact: Lisa Whelchel's manager's office is in the building that was used for the exterior shots of The Townsend Agency.

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by Anonymousreply 159June 6, 2022 7:03 AM

So Blair is one of Charlie’s Angels?

by Anonymousreply 160June 14, 2022 12:38 AM

Did any of the FoL girls ever make it onto the Love Boat?

by Anonymousreply 161June 14, 2022 12:52 AM

Nancy appeared in episode, pre-FOL (and Fantasy Island, too). Lisa was on it twice, and Charlotte appeared three times.

Someone at Spelling Productions must have really liked Lisa. Both of her Love Boat appearances were two-part "sweeps" episodes, filmed on location in Germany & Greece. (that's a "thing" among Love Boat guest-stars -- were you asked to be on an episode that was all filmed on a set in Burbank, or on a location-episode?). Her love interests were Jack Coleman & Parker Stevenson, respectively. AND she was cast in Spelling's totally craptastic t.v. movie, "The Wild Women of Chastity Gulch" (which, IMO, should be required viewing on DL), where her character macked on Donny Osmond.

by Anonymousreply 162June 14, 2022 2:01 AM

Jo was so fucking butch and super masculine. I wonder how many young lezzies and gaylings would rub it out thinking of her taking their cherries?

by Anonymousreply 163June 14, 2022 4:08 AM

^^ You're the only one thinking about that, Loser.

by Anonymousreply 164June 14, 2022 5:46 AM

R164 Fuck you, cunt. Nancy McKeon was the butchest bull dyke in the history of the fucking universe.

by Anonymousreply 165June 14, 2022 6:05 AM

Are you going to like your post again, R165?

by Anonymousreply 166June 14, 2022 6:33 AM

No, the biggest 1970s dykette was Kristy McNichol on Family.

by Anonymousreply 167June 14, 2022 6:55 AM

Why did this gem never come to fruition?

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by Anonymousreply 168June 14, 2022 9:47 AM

Kristy MacNichol and Nancy McKeon should have done an enemies to lovers TV movies of the week. Jimmy and Philip too. If the world was Gay it would have happened, instead we got denied these movies.

by Anonymousreply 169June 14, 2022 3:07 PM

R169, Kristy already did that movie with Tatum O’Neal. It was called Little Darlings.

Best bit of dialogue:

Kristy: I’m not a woman, Randy.

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by Anonymousreply 170June 14, 2022 4:13 PM

R170 That was a theatrically released movie, TV movie of the week would have been a whole other creature!

by Anonymousreply 171June 14, 2022 4:16 PM

I’m watching the episode when Blair & Jo graduate on TV

by Anonymousreply 172June 14, 2022 8:33 PM

I remeber reading the National Inquirerer in the 80s and they stated a remake of "Mildred Pierce" was in preproduction starring Farrah as Mildred and Lisa Whelchel as Veda. I'm sure I squealed at the time and still fantasize about that inspired casting.

by Anonymousreply 173June 14, 2022 8:54 PM

R170 Eh not that movie. She ended up screwing Mat Dillon. That was the whole point, she was tomboy-ish and everyone thought she was lezzy but she was really a misunderstood straight-y. If anything Tatum O'neil ultimately came off as the likely lesbian,

by Anonymousreply 174June 14, 2022 10:29 PM

[quote] Believe it or not, there were special episodes. I think the girls went to Paris and Australia.

And Darfur. That really was a very special episode.

by Anonymousreply 175June 14, 2022 10:31 PM

Tatum O'Neal was at the peak of her beuty in Little Darlings.

by Anonymousreply 176June 14, 2022 11:13 PM

I recently caught the first minute or so of an episode of The Goldbergs (in syndication) which referenced FOL, but managed to screw it up! During the opening voiceover, the lead character starting waxing nostalgic about TV friendships of the 1980s:

[quote]" Back in the '80s, TV gave us some of the most iconic friendships ever. Ricky had Alfonso (insert quick clip of the boys dancing on Silver Spoons)....Natalie had Blair (quick clip of Blair wrapping an arm around Natalie's shoulders at Eastland)....Tattoo had Ricardo Montalban (quick clip from Fantasy Island)".

Natalie & Blair?? WTF?!?! Had The Goldbergs writers ever actually seen an episode of FOL??

Jo & Blair OR Natalie & Tootie were the "iconic" friendships! But never Natalie & Blair, or Jo & Tootie!

This is one of the reasons I've always hated The Goldbergs, in addition to the annoying AF characters/actors. They don't even get the 80s references quite right.

by Anonymousreply 177June 19, 2022 8:30 AM

R177 You are right. Every character I'd put into a fucking oven and then blow the oven up after theys dead. The characters were more despicable and obnoxious than the Golden Girls if that is even possible.

by Anonymousreply 178June 22, 2022 8:53 PM

So is an oven reference necessary for a show called The Goldbergs?

by Anonymousreply 179June 22, 2022 10:20 PM
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