How profitable is abortion?

the majority of non profits, their lobbyists, the 1% from corporate to celebs, but this is true of most things....

the left has several issues that directs huge sums to be funneled into it

the right has several issues that directs huge sums to be funneled into it

both launder insurance companies.. (worse than what people attribute to banking, lenders and wall street.. and the way they're setup, they can withstand the losses because the possibility of getting a full return at high numbers is impossibly low. It has worse stats than the lotto, baby, so more $ to burn)

but even if abortion didn't have that funding (let's be real how abortion saves lives isn't with the women, but leftover waste.).., it would be used as front now because of the polarizing divide between the candidates and potentials.

(right/left most of the DL are pendatic crybabies.. muh muh candidate. you're literally worse than hitler! so, this is beyond their grasp or considered conspiracy theories because politics runs on magical farts from unicorns and nyan cats.)

Gavin Newsom is the Linda Evangelista of politicians. He doesn't speak a single word for less than $10,000.

OP you clearly don't understand this. It isn't about money at all.

r3 Hi, do you prefer magical farts from unicorns or nyan cats?

It cost $200 when I had a D&C done at 6 weeks, several years ago. That's about the same as a dental filling or an office visit with a specialist. A medication abortion should cost much less.

How much do they make on baby parts ?

technology and science is always benevolent or malovent but it has no bearing on our lives or politics, certainly not in competition with other nations or the expanse of biological warfare. It is completely unrelated.

ignore the politicians and corporate figureheads buying coastal homes, traveling by private sea/air, having multiple kids but telling you that Margaret Sanger was right. I mean, anyone that has had to use public transportion knows what a problem the poor are... salt of the earth, hearthy, people for sure, but so many cities would be improved if reduced their numbers. Since they're unwilling to move outside of them for their own benefit and communute and the rest of you idiots want them to stay poor, abortion and euthanasia are the more liberal routes to go... we'll solve more crimes, too, with donating their bodies to farm. It's a win-win.

Sometimes we just don't want daughters, OP. Dongs are much more pleasant.

Not sure about abortion but trolling seems to be, based on the sheer numbers we're seeing lately on DL.

Clearly this thread and the "populaton control" thread are the Right trying out new diversion tactics.

r9 you should ignore the trolling and watch the vid -- it goes to why at the national level we need to decriminalize abortion rather than legalize aboriton. However, it doesn't really get into the benefits of why it would serve both sides of the divide or how it would be better than the examples they're using of states that already have abortion codes written into their state constitution or legislation. . . but they are speaking more in general and the conflicts to constitutional law.

r10 egos like hairdos or assumptions/opinions like assholes, dear?

Abortion is so much fun! Every woman just LOVES getting abortions! It's great! So much money flowing EVERYWHERE! It's HUGE! Yup! Every rape survivor is partying it up! With stepdad's favorite 12 year old girls! It's a fucking PARADISE! We're so glad old men are making this decision for us! Praise Republicans and their Sharia Law!

Abortion pills are generic and cheap. Typically you have an U/S to confirm presence of fetus, that is cheap too.

I think there is med technology that will enable a woman to do the u/s at home via web-based technology.

D/Cs are relatively minor outpatient procedures, often done by NPs or CNMs. Cheap as well.

I have wondered in recent weeks if it did have something to do with the population. We are not producing like we used to and it could affect everyone. I have also always believed that the right never really wanted to end Roe vs. Wade as they just had a great platform to stand on because there were enough people to vote Repub who are against abortion. I think they were just as shocked by that leak as everyone else. What is their platform going to be now? They can't disagree with the decision though because they have run how many years on this platform and they can't allow it to look like they never really wanted it overturned.

Men may vote based on the economy but women are going to vote based on their freedom and women are going to win.

But the ensuing societal burden of impoverished unwanted children- including high costs of incarceration- is priceless.

R15 Who gets paid to cull the poor?

Who's paying you, r16?

R6 Who is they? The JeWS!!!1!!1????

I post of my own free will R17.

Rue, the herb comes in handy and cheap.

So, i looked it up, they make 155.00 per fetus.

Planned Parenthood promotes abortion to make money selling baby parts. They were exposed in an undercover video a few years ago.

[quote]They were exposed in an undercover video a few years ago.

The only thing the convicted criminal James O'Keeffe has ever exposed is his own lying, grifting ass.

I remember about 30 years ago, the "pro lifers" here in the US claimed that abortion was a multi billion dollar a year industry (I'm laughing while I'm typing as most were repubs) well anyway the US average number of abortions then was between 3 to 4 million a year with the average cost about $190.00. If you multiply 3.5 million times $190.00 you won't even get a billion a year industry.

The annual abortion numbers would have to be in the eight figures to even get to a multi billion dollar industry which has NEVER happened. I never saw CNN or anyone from the left refute their crazy stats. Most "pro lifers" you know would benefit from a calculator for their birthday or holiday gift this year maybe with a little note attached for the reason behind the purchase..

You can get them cheaper through Wayfair. Plus you got children trafficked inside an armoir.

both sides play this game of the other side are conspiracy nutters... which is true and they all deflect the accusations they are as well.

Why are so many people afraid of DNA ancestry sites?

The question ties into questioning why so many aren't concerned with medical waste, abortions or otherwise.

Frankly, we could get into the discussion of the profit of circumcision, if you want.

What are the applications for foreskin in science?

(and mind you, I prefer cut.)

I really do think a lot of sad, crazy, angry people post here for free - because they like it.

That's what's really depressing about all these racist trolls, woman-hating trolls, trolls with pornographic fantasies about what abortions are like, what abortion clinics are like.

They really do believe this shit.

r27 Funny, you don't mention the gay hating trolls, isn't it?

r27 Also, nice deflection and card stacking.

It's possible to be pro-choice and recognize there are problems

or even recognize how medical waste is used, in some cases, to help a variety of medical and non medical issues.

We can also recognize there are some ethically questionable areas of misuse or abuse involving medical waste... and much of the information comes from thinktanks and rights groups on the left... such as bio-testing, specifically genetics and how it negatively impacted minority (i.e. african american) communities that was mostly funded by health insurance companies.. and the fear was that this would be used to target african americans with pre-existing health conditions or expand pre-existing health conditions based on the susceptibility to certain demographics, gender or age.

so, while the political positions on the surface may veer one is side more for or against...

when we get into the personal holdings of politicians themselves and the great many lobbyists that fund their campaigns, we see more discrepancies.

Yes, "pro-choice" people publicly fulminate about DEAD BABY PARTS.

R31 go on....

r33 It's about medical waste in general and ownership of... let alone when we get into the problems of testing, research and patents.

The most famous (and damning) case is Henrietta Lacks.

the damning side: the court ruled that a person's discarded tissue and cells are not their property and can be commercialized.

^ or in short, could be used for anything without the patient's consent.

likewise, obviously you can't have it to be disposed because it's deemed a biohazard

and if you don't recognize it as a life the loophole of a funeral is out in most cases... the same as any other biowaste.

kind of like how law enforcement will obtain dna through ethically questionable means....

R34 et al.

So, parsing what you've said..... the fetuses and placentas are sold to pharmaceutical companies for product development?

The unethical aspect... pharma is financing the pro-choice side?

Aborted embryos and fetal tissue were used in the development of Covid-19 vaccines.

Pfizer has made an estimated $32 billion off of Comirnaty so far.

"How profitable is abortion?"

Not nearly as profitable as the "gospel of prosperity," as preached to gullible morons by incredible thirst traps like Joel Osteen.

I'm assuming this was what R1 was alluding to but didn't say.

Aborted fetuses are used to make bibles. FACT.

I wasn't aware the kind of federal guidelines that existed around "donation" of fetal tissue. You aren't allowed to mention donation of fetal remains until after the woman has given written consent to the abortion. Calling these "donations" is a legal fiction, since the selling of human remains is illegal in the U.S.

"Donated" placentas are valuable for wound care after delicate surgical procedures.

R44 Is the first logical explanation I've ever seen for why anyone would ever want abortion legalized in the third trimester.

The older the fetus is, the bigger the placenta is and the more cm^2 you can harvest from it to sell. But then, women give birth everyday and don't keep their placentas. There shouldn't be a scarcity.

So where is the fetal tissue going to come from now?

In the case of Japan, doctors long lobbied FOR abortion because it was so profitable, and AGAINST birth control pills because they were not. That began to change in the 90s after the Japanese government fast-tracked Viagra to the market, and people began asking why low hormone birth control pills were illegal and abortions were not.

That said, I don't think abortion is a big moneymaker in the US.

Goodness!

R47 It would be the only form of healthcare in the U.S. that isn't a cash cow.

Does Miss Newsom use that Lady Clairol blue rinse for 'mature' women?

[quote] It cost $200 when I had a D&C done at 6 weeks, several years ago.

So it hasn't even kept up with inflation. Abortion has never been expensive. In 1973 it was $125 at the Planned Parenthood Clinic in NYC. The boyfriend was supposed to pay.

I am sure the pharmas will make more money from medications. Obviously not talking about more complicated abortions or ones needing anesthesia.

It's going to be profitable now!

Are Planned Parenthoods really closing already? I keep seeing claims on social media but nothing substantiated.

r3's naïveté is [italic]adorable!

Sweetie-darling, it's [italic]always[/italic] about the money.

The claim is made in this article that clinics have closed, but none of the places mentioned by name have ceased operating.

One clinic in Mississippi has 9 days to close.

OP is a troll. Regardless, do you know how much money so-called Christian adoption agencies make peddling babies?With Roe, I wouldn’t be surprised if their rates just went up.

You're the troll, you braindead bitch.

Another w-i-n of E-d or De-Fuckto troll thread.

Someone on this thread just gave some authoritative sounding figures. Someone else already repeatedly called abortion a "cash cow" 😆

"Fyi, as of last year, and depending on the state, a first-trimester non-surgical (self-administered oral medication only) abortion's retail cost typically averaged $500, ranging from $75 (nonprofit, subsidized by donors, staffed mostly or fully by volunteers, no pointless 'tests') to $2,500 (state where multiple visits on multiple days, accompanied by politically-motivated ultrasound & comprehensive 'exam' whose entire purpose is to try and shame the woman into changing her mind and/or establish legal proof that the fetus still qualifies for termination).

Full-on surgical D&C, ectopic pregnancy, etc STARTS around $2,500... and if it's performed at a hospital, the sky's literally the limit. Think about how much a typical US hospital charges just to do something like lance, drain, and pack a cyst or remove an ingrown toenail. Ultrasound, X-rays and/or MRI, anesthesia, waste disposal fees, the works.

Surgical abortion is so expensive relative to pharmaceutical abortion, I'm honestly surprised large corporations don't have free pregnancy tests in employee restrooms & encourage monthly self-tests to steer female employees towards early-detection & action, regardless of when the legal limit is."

R59 who?

Haven't seen the effects of this yet. This was published in May when these groups were fundraising. I certainly hope that money they raised wasn't pissed away on expenses.

This might not be a good strategy:

[Quote]With the most intense period of campaigning only just beginning, Democrats have already invested more than an estimated $124 million this year in television advertising referencing abortion. That's more than twice as much money as the Democrats' next top issue this year, "character," and almost 20 times more than Democrats spent on abortion-related ads in the 2018 midterms.

R64 As of last week^

pair it up with their other investment r64

R66 They're still doing that?! Jesus!

R66 Great idea!