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Supreme Court abortion decision cancels Hollywood director Cary Fukunaga, according to Jezebel

Apparently, Cary posted on Insta about how the Supreme Court was destroying women's rights.

In response to his pro-Roe Insta, 3 women said he groomed them.

I can't tell yet if there's a Fox News angle to this.

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by Anonymousreply 199May 16, 2022 9:50 AM

OP, so be a good little lad and investigate whether there's a "Fox News angle". Everyone else will forge on with their lives, leaving you wallowing...somewhere.

by Anonymousreply 1May 9, 2022 11:23 PM

Nope, I've outsourced that to you.

Please investigate and report back, promptly, R1.

You are so ordered.

by Anonymousreply 2May 9, 2022 11:26 PM

So, they were adults and they seem to have all consented to be there. Yeah, he sounds like he has a thing for really young women and going after the sisters at the same time was gross, but cancellation where everyone is an adult? Give me a break.

I'm so tired of baby-women.

by Anonymousreply 3May 9, 2022 11:26 PM

How about we raise our youngsters to respond, when/to the extent reasonably feasible and safe--when someone tries to "groom" us as adults--to kind of learn to be accountable and responsible to ourselves and knee an asshole in the groin and tell them to fuck off and not do it again, if they don't want the same medicine a second time, instead of always whining, "I'm telling, I'm telling!" to others to take care of our boundaries for ourselves? Enough with this.

by Anonymousreply 4May 9, 2022 11:29 PM

<- Money seems to hypnotize women. If they smell it, they become helpless marionette puppets.

by Anonymousreply 5May 9, 2022 11:31 PM

Is "grooming" the same as flirting?

by Anonymousreply 6May 9, 2022 11:34 PM

It does seem awfully suspicious that he posted that and then 3 women immediately came forward on the same day?

by Anonymousreply 7May 9, 2022 11:35 PM

[quote] Is "grooming" the same as flirting?

Grooming is fox news's favorite word lately. Drug addicted tucker carlson rants and raves about grooming several times during his nightly program

by Anonymousreply 8May 9, 2022 11:38 PM

Being called a "groomer" has become the latest popular right-wing smear, so you can bet if it came after he voiced his support fro freedom of choice, it's a coordinated GOP lie.

He's being slandered and punished.

by Anonymousreply 9May 9, 2022 11:38 PM

You almost beat me too it R9

by Anonymousreply 10May 9, 2022 11:39 PM

If you pretend to be for women’s rights, but have a history of sexual harassment, don’t think you aren’t going to be called out for it. We saw this happen with the #metoo movement, where serial predators joined in on the virtue signaling and then got exposed.

by Anonymousreply 11May 9, 2022 11:40 PM

R9 R10, Yeah, because Jezebel is soooooo right wing. Continue being aloof and foolish.

by Anonymousreply 12May 9, 2022 11:42 PM

LOL! Grown women want to accuse an adult male of “grooming” them! Meanwhile, they are about to lose access to safe and legal abortions and blame a liberal Hollywood director for their trouble!

by Anonymousreply 13May 9, 2022 11:45 PM

Why is he pretending, R11? Sounds like he had relationships with 3 over 18 women. Granted, they were barely over 18, but still legal. Nothing in their descriptions went beyond "guy looking to have casual sexual relationships." These women consented and when they were done, they said so. He didn't assault them, force them to do anything. He's just a sleazy womanizer. I'm not sure why that means he's anti-choice?

by Anonymousreply 14May 9, 2022 11:45 PM

Women: “This adult male wanted to have SEX with me! Gross!”

Also women:

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by Anonymousreply 15May 9, 2022 11:48 PM

R15 Sums it up quite nicely.

by Anonymousreply 16May 9, 2022 11:52 PM

I came of age in the 80’s and 90’s, when all the rules about behavior and workplaces were different. That was the culture then.

I have since learned it’s not an excuse, in the office – or out of it. To anyone.

I realized some time ago that I needed to be a better person and my interactions with the people I work with have changed.

I appreciate the way I’ve behaved with colleagues in the past has caused a lot of pain, and I sincerely apologize for it.

Though I’m trying to do better, I know I have a long way to go. That is my commitment. My journey now will be to learn about myself and conquer my demons. Over the last year I’ve asked Lisa Bloom to tutor me and she’s put together a team of people. I’ve brought on therapists and I plan to take a leave of absence from my company and to deal with this issue head on. I so respect all women and regret what happened. I hope that my actions will speak louder than words and that one day we will all be able to earn their trust and sit down together with Lisa to learn more. Jay Z wrote in 4:44 “I’m not the man I thought I was and I better be that man for my children.” The same is true for me. I want a second chance in the community but I know I’ve got work to do to earn it. I have goals that are now priorities. Trust me, this isn’t an overnight process. I’ve been trying to do this for 10 years and this is a wake-up call. I cannot be more remorseful about the people I hurt and I plan to do right by all of them.

I am going to need a place to channel that anger so I’ve decided that I’m going to give the Roman Catholic my full attention. I hope the Pope will enjoy his retirement party. I’m going to do it at the same place I had my high school graduation party. I’m making a movie about our former President, perhaps we can make it a permanent retirement party. One year ago, I began organizing a $5 million foundation to give scholarships to women directors at USC. While this might seem coincidental, it has been in the works for a year. It will be named after my mom and I won’t disappoint her.

by Anonymousreply 17May 9, 2022 11:53 PM

Damn, harass me!

by Anonymousreply 18May 9, 2022 11:54 PM

He's hot. Let him groom me. I won't complain.

by Anonymousreply 19May 9, 2022 11:58 PM

This is ludicrous. Wanting casual sex with very young women makes him a typical straight male, not a rapist, a harasser, or even a "groomer."

If they didn't want to sleep with him, they shouldn't have. All of us have thought after hooking up with somebody "ew, gross," but that doesn't mean we were victims. For Christ's sake, this victim culture can't end soon enough for me.

by Anonymousreply 20May 10, 2022 12:02 AM

Cary looks like a vastly improved version of Elon Musk.

by Anonymousreply 21May 10, 2022 12:03 AM

Is he part Asian?

by Anonymousreply 22May 10, 2022 12:04 AM

I now immediately suspect a set-up anytime I hear or see the word grooming. It's a coordinated effort by the right to smear Democrats and gay people. Go back after the past few months and you can see it start with DeSantis. They're trying to equate pedophilia with liberals/gays and their keyword is grooming.

by Anonymousreply 23May 10, 2022 12:06 AM

Groom ME, Cary!

by Anonymousreply 24May 10, 2022 12:09 AM

If women do it is it called "briding"?

by Anonymousreply 25May 10, 2022 12:13 AM

[quote]Yeah, because Jezebel is soooooo right wing.

They're not "right wing," but they definitely take the "believe women" notion to its utmost extreme, e.g. "ALWAYS believe women even if their claims are obviously false or clearly exaggerated." The suggestion that grown-ass women are "groomed" and somehow incapable of making their own decisions relative to their sex lives is flat-out insulting to *actual* feminists (meaning non Gen Zers who don't note every single "microaggression" as some sort of massive attack against them). Jezebel also went apeshit with the total-bullshit story back in 2019-2020 that Biden fucked a frau who claimed he'd diddled her while she was in his employ in the Senate 25+ years ago, never mind the ginormous gaps in the woman's stories.

Further, the notion that any Hollywood male who dates a younger, but definitely legal, woman should be "cancelled" should probably talk to *actual* gross pervs into FAR younger women. I'm guessing many DLers remember the contretemps around the time "Call Me By Your Name" came out: conservative fuckwad James Woods inaccurately criticized its depiction of a fully consensual & legal relationship between Elio & Oliver (ages 17 & 24 in the movie, within the age of sexual consent in Europe). Since-disgraced-for-other-reasons star Armie Hammer retorted that there was nothing whatsoever wrong with a fictitious relationship between characters seven years apart, but definitely something fucked up about then 71-year-old Woods "dating" a 19-year-old wannabe "actress" at the time (albeit also not illegal).

In any event, these claims are ridiculous, and the women who claim Fukunaga "groomed" them leave out not-so-minor details like all of them being readily able to block unwanted DMs (or ordinary calls/texts).

by Anonymousreply 26May 10, 2022 12:17 AM

So “grooming” is the new “gaslighting”.

by Anonymousreply 27May 10, 2022 12:20 AM

Grooming = perpetual victim mentality, never having to take responsibility.

by Anonymousreply 28May 10, 2022 12:21 AM

Cary can fuku my naga ANY TIME.

by Anonymousreply 29May 10, 2022 12:27 AM

James Woods is the last person in the world who should attack anyone for grooming.

by Anonymousreply 30May 10, 2022 12:42 AM

What he did wasn't illegal but the incest stuff is incredibly creepy.

by Anonymousreply 31May 10, 2022 1:17 AM

Cary is notoriously known in NYC to date much younger ladies.

Michelle Williams was like the only age appropriate date he has had in the last decade. His former girlfriend Daniella Perez Lopez was 10 years younger.

Definitely not surprised by this story.

by Anonymousreply 32May 10, 2022 9:57 AM

I learned back during my LiveJournal days that there are a lot, and I mean a whole fucking lot, of straight guys who are performatively feminist, but then turn out to be gropers or sex pests.

by Anonymousreply 33May 10, 2022 10:05 AM

[quote]The suggestion that grown-ass women are "groomed" and somehow incapable of making their own decisions relative to their sex lives is flat-out insulting to *actual* feminists (meaning non Gen Zers who don't note every single "microaggression" as some sort of massive attack against them).

Don't be an idiot. Grooming in the sense of an older man with a lot of power using his influence to coerce women looking for employment in the industry to fuck him absolutely exists, and none of your rightwing "snowflake Gen Z microaggression" pop psychology keyword mess takes away from that.

If you're really, truly an old feminist and a "real" one, then you're already mad about Letterman, right? You should be mad about Fukunaga too. It's the same thing, you damn dope. One girl was an actress looking for work, the two others were on the set with him when the whole thing started.

by Anonymousreply 34May 10, 2022 10:10 AM

[quote]“Neither of us knew how to say no"

Some people are just stupid.

by Anonymousreply 35May 10, 2022 10:13 AM

Cary also talked about relationships & love in articles like he was a 15 year old in obsessive, teenage love.

Years ago it came off like he was this deep, romantic man…Now it’s just super creepy.

by Anonymousreply 36May 10, 2022 10:13 AM

R33

Those Lipstick Alley girls are fucking nuts too.

Wonder if there are all over this?

by Anonymousreply 37May 10, 2022 10:24 AM

[quote]At one point during his stay, they said, the three sat in a hot tub, where Fukunaga asked the pair if they were virgins and whether they’d ever participate in a threesome, suggesting that incest is fine “if all parties are okay with it.”

[quote]Fukunaga allegedly continued to invite the twins to spend time with him, despite few instances of physical intimacy transpiring between them—apart from head massages—and the sisters’ assertion that they didn’t intend to have sex with anyone they weren’t in relationships with.

20 year old twin sisters shared a hot top with a big name Hollywood director and were (rightly) creeped out when he asked if they'd have a 3some.

So creeped out they carried on seeing him, despite not being interested in a relationship? This isn't grooming, that's tolerating creepy behaviour because you want to get ahead in your acting career.

Read up about Thandiwe Newton's experience with John Duigan as a 16 year old. THAT was grooming.

by Anonymousreply 38May 10, 2022 10:43 AM

"Gen Z kids are all stupid and dumb and don't know anything." - Datalounge

"Gen Z kids are all smart enough to know better than to let themselves get groomed by an older guy with influence and power." - Also Datalounge

by Anonymousreply 39May 10, 2022 10:51 AM

R39 has a cumfart in his drawers.

by Anonymousreply 40May 10, 2022 10:53 AM

Stop advertising your stupid "cumfart" thread in other threads, r40. It flopped because it was a bad EST.

by Anonymousreply 41May 10, 2022 10:55 AM

Well, if the fathers of these naive little girls, these poor, unknowing babies, had kept them locked up in their homes until an appropriate man had come to court and marry them, as they should have, this would have never happened!

Clearly, these innocent, guileless 18 and 20 year olds belong in the Convent. They are in danger, wandering the street with savage beasts like this Japanese predator luring them into his opium den, filming their bare ankles.

by Anonymousreply 42May 10, 2022 11:14 AM

File a charge, go to court, let the jury decide. I don't do the kangaroo court of justice and I have never, especially against other progressive fellows.

by Anonymousreply 43May 10, 2022 11:21 AM

Isn't this what happened to Joss Whedon? A self-declared male feminist who is a creep getting #MeeToo'd?

Sexual predators use all sorts of angles to prey on their victims, like making them feel safe at first by getting their prey to trust them.

by Anonymousreply 44May 10, 2022 11:35 AM

This is so unfair to TRUE child victims of sexual abuse. Real victims who have been preyed upon by trusted adults, when they are too young to even know what sexuality is. When they cannot leave their home or get help from a trusted adult. These women ARE ADULTS. They would be the ones to help a child get away from a predator. They would be mothers in some communities.

Calling him a "sexual predator" for trying to have sex with 18 and 20 year old women, who would be in college or have jobs if not pursuing fame, while engaging in a relationship with them, is insane. This has reached an irrational point where I almost wonder if NAMBLA isn't behind this to change the dialogue and make the entire issue of what constitutes predator and prey seem irrational.

by Anonymousreply 45May 10, 2022 11:42 AM

R39 It's ALL relative

by Anonymousreply 46May 10, 2022 11:50 AM

His always been a crappy director. Good riddance.

by Anonymousreply 47May 10, 2022 12:11 PM

Fukunaga was born in Oakland, California. His father, Anthony Shuzo Fukunaga, was a third-generation Japanese American, born in an internment camp during World War II.[2] His mother, Gretchen May (Grufman), is Swedish American[3][4][5] and worked as a dental hygienist, and later as a college history instructor and university assistant professor of history, from whom Fukunaga got his original interest in history.[6] His parents eventually divorced.[4]

by Anonymousreply 48May 10, 2022 12:29 PM

In October 2021, Raeden Greer accused Fukunaga of pressuring her into doing a topless scene for True Detective, which was not included in her contract.[52

by Anonymousreply 49May 10, 2022 12:33 PM

R49, she was hired to play a stripper. Which is very funny. She was a fully clothed stripper? That's fine. But this is the New Victorian era.

by Anonymousreply 50May 10, 2022 12:37 PM

Why does datalounge always rush to defend every shitty man? It's always "boys against girls" for some of you. Are you 8?

by Anonymousreply 51May 10, 2022 12:39 PM

Why do you always defend anyone who claims sexual harassment and assault through vague social media posts? Due Process.

by Anonymousreply 52May 10, 2022 12:42 PM

I don't like to defend "shitty" men, but I do side eye many of these claims of "grooming" and "sexual harassment" because most of them are money grabs or accusations built around revenge and makes it more difficult for real victims. The vast majority of women are made of much tougher stuff than this bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 53May 10, 2022 12:46 PM

I think the time has come to seriously consider raising the age of consent for women to 21.

by Anonymousreply 54May 10, 2022 12:46 PM

he likes to give the women tats. that's his MO

by Anonymousreply 55May 10, 2022 12:47 PM

[quote] she was hired to play a stripper.

So why wasn't it in her contract that she had to get her tits out? Was it implied that she'd have to do it, or was she deliberately set up? It's highly unprofessional to make the actress look being difficult for stuff that wasn't properly negotiated in the first place.

by Anonymousreply 56May 10, 2022 12:48 PM

He’s HOT 🥵!

I bet he’s also HOT 🥵 in the sack

by Anonymousreply 57May 10, 2022 12:52 PM

This is not grooming. At the risk of sounding old fashion, this is dating.

by Anonymousreply 58May 10, 2022 12:53 PM

He's Asian, probably hung below average. That's why he goes after young girls who are not very experienced.

by Anonymousreply 59May 10, 2022 12:57 PM

^ resident anti-Asian troll.

by Anonymousreply 60May 10, 2022 1:07 PM

Not taking anything away from anyone who was truly assaulted at work, but fuck, I am so glad I'm older and not working anymore. Many of my jobs sucked so flirting or being flirted with at the workplace was the best part of the job.

No harm was done. I never look back and felt I was hurt or exploited on any level...then again, I was pretty streetwise and I would have known the difference right away.

BTW I have added another word I gag at hearing "Groomed" Bleech

by Anonymousreply 61May 10, 2022 1:13 PM

If I were a celebrity, I'd keep my mouth shut, shut, so shut about politics.

by Anonymousreply 62May 10, 2022 1:15 PM

Amazing how there is a whole industry now devoted to handling these crises and drafting apologies. R17 is parody, but barely.

by Anonymousreply 63May 10, 2022 1:18 PM

Women: ANY INTEREST A MAN TAKES IN ME IS PREDATORY!

Also women: BRITNEY ISN’T CRAZY, SHE’S EMPOWERED!

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by Anonymousreply 64May 10, 2022 1:20 PM

[quote]Amazing how there is a whole industry now devoted to handling these crises and drafting apologies.

"Apology itself is good. But public apology is a useless and self-defeating ritual. If you have done something wrong to another, I recommend that you privately apologize to them. That person can then accept your apology or not. They can publicize your apology or not. But all of the moral value of apologizing will be preserved, while nothing of practical value to your life will be lost.

Look, if nothing else it’s indisputable that public apology has no consistent ability to reduce criticism, and I think it’s obvious that in fact such apologies just show that blood is in the water."

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by Anonymousreply 65May 10, 2022 1:22 PM

R65 I happen to agree. The people and companies that survive scandal tend to be the ones that brazen it out. Now, Alec Baldwin is trying this, but whether it works for him remains to be seen.

by Anonymousreply 66May 10, 2022 1:33 PM

Cary is the type of dude who probably thought he could get by on his looks & intelligence. Too bad it caught up with him.

His instagram is still public, the post is gone…but most of his friends have gone private.

by Anonymousreply 67May 10, 2022 1:36 PM

Why don’t these guys just hire out for sex?

No one is canceling literal whoremongers.

Doesn’t Jezebel want us to elevate sex workers?

by Anonymousreply 68May 10, 2022 2:07 PM

R68, you can't trust the whores to stay quiet anymore either - see Elliot Spitzer, Stormy Daniel's, etc.

Everyone wants their 15 minutes of fame. Dignity be damned.

by Anonymousreply 69May 10, 2022 2:17 PM

Damn, he's good lookin'!

by Anonymousreply 70May 10, 2022 2:43 PM

How can an adult woman be 'groomed'?

by Anonymousreply 71May 10, 2022 2:43 PM

Women don’t want accountability for anything, that’s all. The Jack Nicholson line in As Good As It Gets was prophetic.

by Anonymousreply 72May 10, 2022 2:49 PM

he spends 3 years to try to get into their panties? I guess he's not interested if you're over 21.

by Anonymousreply 73May 10, 2022 2:52 PM

Makes sense ^

by Anonymousreply 74May 10, 2022 2:53 PM

My mistake. DYSLEXIA!

I saw “12” - not “21” lol

by Anonymousreply 75May 10, 2022 2:54 PM

He literally had his way with me! With his eyes!

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by Anonymousreply 76May 10, 2022 2:58 PM

But the POWER! Men who have power should only attempt to have sex with powerful women. If they want YOUNG women, they should only have sex with Billie Eilish or influencers with at least two million followers. Otherwise—CANCEL THEM!!!

by Anonymousreply 77May 10, 2022 3:04 PM

While I don't want to jump on the bandwagon of those criticizing these women for complaining, I'll point out that this is the problem that the liberal world suffers every time progress is made on such an issue. We've criticized men (not necessarily on DL, but you know what I mean) for not respecting the basic rule society has set regarding appropriate/inappropriate conduct with another person and determined that the age of consent (in most states currently) is 18. Whenever a famous person is castigated for breaking that rule, I'm among the first to point out that if you're into younger people, you're in luck because man-in-sky makes 18 year olds every day, and many of them continue to appear as much younger for years; leave the children alone and pursue people of age.

And then, we decide that men (not targeting males, but it's hard to think otherwise when society basically thinks any young male who falls victim to an adult female is "lucky") who follow the rules are somehow still just as predatory as those who don't. The picture painted in this article raises some serious questions, like who invites a predator to their family home and gets in the hot tub with him? Where were these twin girls parents? Am I the only person whose radar went off when I saw that their last name is Loesch?

We seem to have lost the ability to discern between a cad and a crook. This is not excusing the behavior. This is pointing out that we are our own worst enemy. We are busy castigating a creepy guy over behavior that when compared to actual child predators and outright pedophiles makes us look like we don't know the difference. And meanwhile, the rightwing stands back and says "See, this is why we need to force women to cover themselves from ankle to head, deny them equal access to healthcare, basic rights, and existence (so we can marry them at 14 and help them pop out babies as fast as possible)". Nevermind that we have multiple Republican congressmen under investigation for sex trafficking of minors; the important thing here is that liberal Hollywood must be held to account!

If you think I'm exaggerating, go read Alito's opinion on why abortion should be illegal, and notice the age of the "law" he's basing the argument upon.

by Anonymousreply 78May 10, 2022 3:16 PM

[quote] and determined that the age of consent (in most states currently) is 18.

States where the age of consent is 16 (31): Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Connecticut, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio,[a] Oklahoma, Pennsylvania,[b] Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, Washington, and West Virginia.

States where the age of consent is 17 (6): Colorado, Illinois, Louisiana, Missouri, New York, and Wyoming.

States where the age of consent is 18 (13): Arizona, California, Delaware, Florida, Idaho, Kentucky, North Dakota, Oregon, Tennessee, Texas,[c] Utah, Virginia, and Wisconsin.

by Anonymousreply 79May 10, 2022 3:31 PM

R79 is creepy as fuck for posting that

by Anonymousreply 80May 10, 2022 3:46 PM

Fuck you.

by Anonymousreply 81May 10, 2022 3:46 PM

How is it creepy to post the fucking law? Most of the world has an age of consent of 16.

by Anonymousreply 82May 10, 2022 3:48 PM

R80 Hardly, it's just information. Are you such a toddler you can't look at actual facts without shrieking "grooming"?

by Anonymousreply 83May 10, 2022 3:48 PM

R80 is 27 and thinks getting hit up by a 35 year-old is "grooming".

by Anonymousreply 84May 10, 2022 3:49 PM

It is very very weird how puritan and anti-sex Gen Z (especially women) are, while at the same time talking about "owning your sexuality", idolizing pop stars and celebrities that dress and behave like hookers, and how OnlyFans and sex work is WORK!

by Anonymousreply 85May 10, 2022 3:51 PM

[quote] We seem to have lost the ability to discern between a cad and a crook. This is not excusing the behavior. This is pointing out that we are our own worst enemy. We are busy castigating a creepy guy over behavior that when compared to actual child predators and outright pedophiles makes us look like we don't know the difference.

WTF? Is an adult victim supposed to feel less of a victim because she's not some innocent child raped by a pedophile? Is there some "Darfur Orphan" for sexual assault, dismissing the issue of sexual assault between adults (for example, employee vs. employer)?

by Anonymousreply 86May 10, 2022 3:52 PM

[quote]This is ludicrous. Wanting casual sex with very young women makes him a typical straight male, not a rapist, a harasser, or even a "groomer."

They tried to do this with Aziz Ansari (sp?). Aziz didn't do anything wrong. The woman (who freely consented to sex) grew upset days later that he hadn't been more romantic. It seems he just wanted to screw her and he didn't pretend otherwise. She was happy to fuck a celeb, but then felt like their date should have been something from a romantic comedy. Had he not been rich and famous, she never, ever would have so much as given him the time of day. And he was canceled for a very long time.

95% of the dating public wish their dates had gone better. It doesn't mean that any misconduct occurred at all.

by Anonymousreply 87May 10, 2022 3:53 PM

R86 If the behavior isn't criminal, there's no need for some public witch hunt or shaming.

by Anonymousreply 88May 10, 2022 3:53 PM

R85 they think everyone should have sex whenever they want but GOOD GOD IF YOU LOOK AT ME FUNNY I WILL REPORT YOU TO HR FOR RAPE.

It's like some sort of twisted game: "yes, you should be free with your sexuality!" at the same time they make everyone afraid to have sex.

by Anonymousreply 89May 10, 2022 3:54 PM

R86, is that a joke? Yes. A physically mature adult is responsible for their sexual development- you work for emotional and psychological understanding of your sexuality in this world. You can talk to people, including professionals, read books, experiment... a physically immature child is not a sexual being.

Holy shit. This has gone off the rails.

by Anonymousreply 90May 10, 2022 3:56 PM

[quote] Grooming in the sense of an older man with a lot of power using his influence to coerce women looking for employment in the industry to fuck him absolutely exists

If they give in that’s on them. It says a lot about their lack of self respect. Women need to take responsibility and stop acting like babies.

by Anonymousreply 91May 10, 2022 3:58 PM

[quote] It is very very weird how puritan and anti-sex Gen Z (especially women) are, while at the same time talking about "owning your sexuality", idolizing pop stars and celebrities that dress and behave like hookers, and how OnlyFans and sex work is WORK!

It’s total hypocrisy. They are the dumbest generation in history.

by Anonymousreply 92May 10, 2022 4:00 PM

R87, she also said that he should have just known that she didn’t want to have sex. lol. Now men are expected to be mind readers. Women have become infantilized and they find community among other perpetual victims. It suddenly becomes a pissing contest as to who’s been victimized more times than others. It’s very, very sick and the public continues to indulge this. These women want freedom AND a daddy to take care of them.

by Anonymousreply 93May 10, 2022 4:03 PM

[quote] [R86] If the behavior isn't criminal, there's no need for some public witch hunt or shaming.

Sexual assault is a crime. Not every "she said / he said" should be dismissed as "she gave her consent and regrets it now!" slutshaming.

[R86], is that a joke? Yes. A physically mature adult is responsible for their sexual development- you work for emotional and psychological understanding of your sexuality in this world. You can talk to people, including professionals, read books, experiment... a physically immature child is not a sexual being.

Wow. Just. Wow. You're basically saying "suck it up, buttercup" to adult victims of sexual assault.

[quote] We are busy castigating a creepy guy over behavior that when compared to actual child predators and outright pedophiles makes us look like we don't know the difference.

Why does it have to be compared in the first place? And who the fuck does that?

by Anonymousreply 94May 10, 2022 4:08 PM

R94, I am not. You cannot EVER compare an adult victim to a child victim. In anything.

You are truly overstepping a boundary of sanity and decency.

by Anonymousreply 95May 10, 2022 4:16 PM

"sexual assault" doesn't mean what it used to mean.

by Anonymousreply 96May 10, 2022 4:25 PM

He's quite hot so he's innocent.

by Anonymousreply 97May 10, 2022 4:27 PM

[quote] You cannot EVER compare an adult victim to a child victim. In anything.

You did by dragging pedophilia into the conversation for some reason.

[quote] We are busy castigating a creepy guy over behavior that [bold] when compared to actual child predators and outright pedophiles [/bold] makes us look like we don't know the difference.

by Anonymousreply 98May 10, 2022 4:30 PM

Here’s the instagram story post!!!

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by Anonymousreply 99May 10, 2022 4:56 PM

he must know he was doing something wrong, otherwise why the fuck would he refer to her as his niece?

by Anonymousreply 100May 10, 2022 5:23 PM

R100

He is in Leo territory, but Leo never got caught doing bad shit with the younger girls.

Cary is fucking around with the Social Media crowd which is bad since every fucking thing gets documented.

by Anonymousreply 101May 10, 2022 5:25 PM

[quote] he must know he was doing something wrong, otherwise why the fuck would he refer to her as his niece?

Because he knows how people will react. That doesn’t mean people who judge are correct.

by Anonymousreply 102May 10, 2022 5:29 PM

I have no idea what women want, they seem impossible. All men should just be gay

by Anonymousreply 103May 10, 2022 5:36 PM

Cary wanted them to HUSH because he knows that a 45 yr old fucking around with a 23yr old is GROSS.

by Anonymousreply 104May 10, 2022 5:39 PM

Only for mentally immature people, r104.

by Anonymousreply 105May 10, 2022 5:45 PM

the most embarrassing thing is he couldn't even close the deal. They didn't fuck him, did they?

by Anonymousreply 106May 10, 2022 5:45 PM

More embarrassing for them, r106. They could have had the attention of a hot guy with money, instead they gave it all up for fleeting social media clout.

by Anonymousreply 107May 10, 2022 5:46 PM

R104 Are you a woman?

by Anonymousreply 108May 10, 2022 6:03 PM

R108

It’s gross when you pick emotionally immature little girls who can’t handle a 45 yr old.

by Anonymousreply 109May 10, 2022 6:10 PM

I thought 'grooming' referred to someone underaged being carefully and slowly cajoled into having sex once they became an adult?

by Anonymousreply 110May 10, 2022 6:14 PM

Here's the longform tell-all from a pair of twins.

It's all too familiar and pathetic – from all sides.

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by Anonymousreply 111May 10, 2022 6:19 PM

R34, LOL "...your rightwing "snowflake Gen Z microaggression" pop psychology keyword mess..."

Since when has 'microaggression' EVER been considered a rightwing term?

by Anonymousreply 112May 10, 2022 6:24 PM

18-21 you're an adult, a young adult, but an adult nonetheless. You don't get to reset bad dates and bad choices as grooming, sexual harassment, and/or assault. You just don't.

by Anonymousreply 113May 10, 2022 6:31 PM

omg, the twins are fug! he has horrible taste.

by Anonymousreply 114May 10, 2022 6:32 PM

The twins thing seems overblown, they seem like immature girls who have never been in a relationship. The Rachelle situation seems more serious.

by Anonymousreply 115May 10, 2022 6:35 PM

I ain't buying their accusations

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by Anonymousreply 116May 10, 2022 6:36 PM

“ Vinberg said she’s since sought therapy and was diagnosed with PTSD.”

Of course she was. lol

by Anonymousreply 117May 10, 2022 6:44 PM

She was 18. Girl, fuck off.

by Anonymousreply 118May 10, 2022 6:44 PM

[quote] Cary wanted them to HUSH because he knows that a 45 yr old fucking around with a 23yr old is GROSS.

According to her. I’m sure her therapist also helped her with her “repressed memories”.

by Anonymousreply 119May 10, 2022 6:46 PM

Wait what R119? So sleazy and creepy behavior is only fake and it's all made up is it?

The only people who have no accountability are men, the way they see it, there are no such things as sleazeballs and creeps, it's all just "misunderstandings" and "overreactions" and suppression to actually call men out for bad behavior.

by Anonymousreply 120May 10, 2022 7:10 PM

Oh and the only bad sexual behavior is pedophilia. Everything else is A-OK.

by Anonymousreply 121May 10, 2022 7:11 PM

But pedophilia is okay if the kid has had sex before or has "street smarts". So you know, sex with a 12 year old is okay.

by Anonymousreply 122May 10, 2022 7:12 PM

Who the fuck are we to call out this random man for not doing anything illegal though? How is any of this my business? That's what I don't get about these stories, this one and the Aziz story specifically - it's just mean-spirited gossip really, that in no way is anybody's business but the people involved. If somebody did something illegal then by all means, drag them. But people are imperfect assholes, basically every one of us - I hate to quote scripture because I'm an atheist who was raised in that crap who got away but I still believe in the concept of let he without sin cast the first stone. I've been an asshole to people I've dated. I have manipulated people. Gotten trashed and had sex I have regretted. We have all done these things. I don't know why just because dude directs movies I have to know all about how he's not a perfect human being.

by Anonymousreply 123May 10, 2022 7:27 PM

[quote] it's just mean-spirited gossip really,

Where the hell do you think you're posting R123? I guess mean spirited gossip is fine and dandy when you're calling some frau a cunt or making elitist jokes about poor people but creepy, perverted or sleazy sexual behavior is somehow above reproach.

by Anonymousreply 124May 10, 2022 7:37 PM

All the Hollywood Trade have ignored this story.

Seems like 2 girls too immature to realize a guy really wanted the snatch without a relationship.

Those girls followed him and could have just not gone to his house and got into his bed.

by Anonymousreply 125May 10, 2022 7:41 PM

Regret is not rape

by Anonymousreply 126May 10, 2022 7:44 PM

I had never seen a photo of Fukunaga. For some reason I always thought that Cary Fukunaga was a woman.

by Anonymousreply 127May 10, 2022 7:50 PM

here's a pic of him. nothing special.

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by Anonymousreply 128May 10, 2022 8:36 PM

another picture of him.

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by Anonymousreply 129May 10, 2022 8:37 PM

He looks like Henry Cavill

by Anonymousreply 130May 10, 2022 8:40 PM

He’s gorgeous, but he has Mommy Issues.

by Anonymousreply 131May 10, 2022 8:41 PM

R131 like sucking on a nipple for milk?

by Anonymousreply 132May 10, 2022 8:43 PM

He is not gorgeous. he's is merely average. you guys need your eyes checked.

by Anonymousreply 133May 10, 2022 8:45 PM

So what’s the verdict on Cary’s career?

He’ll be papped next week with a 40 yr old “girlfriend.”

by Anonymousreply 134May 10, 2022 9:22 PM

R224 "creepy, perverted or sleazy sexual behavior" has been redefined in the past ten years to mean "anything I regret later".

It's also ridiculous because you are taking away these womens' agency and acting as if they are helpless victims with no choice in how this turned out. So which is it, are people empowered to make their own decisions and consent, or are they helpless victims who need protection at every step, lest they be accidentally "groomed"? At what point does it just become ridiculous excuse-generation from people who had their high expectations dashed?

by Anonymousreply 135May 11, 2022 6:22 AM

Carey's hot enough to get women without any grooming. This story is ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 136May 11, 2022 6:25 AM

Yes, he is fucking ridiculous. Fucking useless cunt

by Anonymousreply 137May 11, 2022 7:39 AM

He has an appalling taste

by Anonymousreply 138May 11, 2022 7:54 AM

[quote]The only people who have no accountability are men, the way they see it

Because you’re a gullible idiot. Men are responsible for everything we enjoy in the world. Get over your hatred or your wannabe second wave feminist bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 139May 11, 2022 7:58 AM

[quote]It's also ridiculous because you are taking away these womens' agency and acting as if they are helpless victims with no choice in how this turned out.

It’s actually incredibly misogynist. Stop treating women as though their children and women need to stop acting like perpetual victims. Men don’t act like that, especially not gay men who’ve experienced way worse and didn’t run crying. They picked themselves up and moved on. They didn’t act like damaged goods. They learn from the experience.

by Anonymousreply 140May 11, 2022 8:01 AM

I would disregard the word "grooming" because none of the women used it to describe their relationships. Why didn't they tell him to fuck off? Because he was a hot-shot director who could get them work and given their limited talent and education, maybe their only shot at getting a movie role. Definitely a power imbalance in the relationship. The proof of that is that these are all very young and not particularly well-educated women. Why would he bother with them when there are so many other women out there who are older, more sophisticated, more attractive and probably more interesting? Because the leverage was the turn-on.

The stuff he did with the twins was nauseating. Who knows what he did with the other woman, given how incoherent she was.

I think the twins are justified in exposing him for being a creep. Sexual harassment or assault, no? Grooming--not in the traditional sense. Just a creep who tried to get two young sisters to fuck each other for his benefit.

Should they have walked away? Sure, but that applies to every woman who didn't turn on Harvey Weinstein after being lured to his hotel room for a business meeting. Eventually, the twins did but only after they had irrevocable proof of what a creep he was. I don't equate this with Aziz Ansari--that story was an invasion of his privacy. This director has an MO and warning other youngn women does them a service.

by Anonymousreply 141May 11, 2022 8:15 AM

No woman was "lured" to Harvey Weinstein's hotel room. Everyone in LA knew what Harvey Weinstein was. Those women knew and they still went to his room.

by Anonymousreply 142May 11, 2022 12:00 PM

Oh R79, you're right. Dismiss and disregard everything I said because I used an overly broad generalization without investigating age of consent laws state-by-state. Now never mind that the consent you've creepily (I agree, it's an odd distinction to make in this context, R80) and in detail brought to our attention is, in the context of discussing a cad hitting on an adult or adults of majority age, a distinction without a difference. Somehow, if any of the women this guy seduced were under 18 but over the age of state-by-state consent you've detailed, I don't think that would stop authorities from investigating (unless, of course, he were a religious figure, and then rape and consent mean nothing).

by Anonymousreply 143May 11, 2022 2:45 PM

R135 bullfuckingshit. A 35 year old man asking teenage twins to have sex with each other is creepy and perverted. I'm sure you'll try to deny it of course (sex negative! anti-sex!) or try to rationalize it (they could have left, you know, hmm, tsk tsk). But it is the definition of creepy and sleazy by every fucking definition and understanding of those words and even your little pea brain knows it.

This has nothing whatsoever do with whether or not those sisters had the power to walk away, which they obviously did because that's exactly what they did nor does this make him a harasser or criminal.

by Anonymousreply 144May 12, 2022 7:04 AM

[quote] They didn’t act like damaged goods.

You are one deluded twit R140. Gay men are some of the most damaged people around, GTFO with that nonsense.

by Anonymousreply 145May 12, 2022 7:32 AM

And you can tell they are damaged, forgot to add that.

by Anonymousreply 146May 12, 2022 7:33 AM

Call me a FOX news anchor if you want to but any dude in his 30s and 40s who only wants to fuck teenagers isn't right in the head on any level. People have been talking about this with Fukunaga for a while now.

by Anonymousreply 147May 12, 2022 7:38 AM

Cary Fukunaga made it to Lainey Gossip.

He lost the asian girls now.

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by Anonymousreply 148May 12, 2022 9:17 AM

R147 Men being attracted to youth is normal. See video at 11:19 for explanation. As long as the age of consent wasn't ignored and he didn't force them to do something against their will, everything should be fine.

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by Anonymousreply 149May 12, 2022 9:53 AM

Is it really "Grooming" if she's an adult and fully capable of making her own decisions? Seriously.

by Anonymousreply 150May 12, 2022 9:57 AM

R150 They are infantilizing these adult women who regret hookups.

by Anonymousreply 151May 12, 2022 10:01 AM

This creep pressured two teenage sisters to have sex with each other and people here are defending him. Unreal.

by Anonymousreply 152May 12, 2022 11:59 AM

It's only grooming when you don't get the role you thought you were going to get by fucking a film director.

by Anonymousreply 153May 12, 2022 12:51 PM

R152 where does pressured come from? As far as I know they didn't do it so they were free to make the decision for themselves. The sisters were also 20 years old according to OP's link, not teenagers and the link also states that he and the twins were in a hot tub when he asked them if they would do a threesome, so I'm pretty sure they were able to handle a perverted question when they were also ok with being half-naked in such a tub with him (maybe even fully naked because it was the twin's family home?). Later in the link it says that he pulled one of the twins on top of him but "he looked disappointed" when she climbed off. Yes, that is a rude thing to do but how much of a creep is he when he immediately accepts her rejection and just looks disappointed afterwards according to them?

by Anonymousreply 154May 12, 2022 1:21 PM

[quote]A 35 year old man asking teenage twins to have sex with each other is creepy and perverted.

Frau alert!

by Anonymousreply 155May 12, 2022 1:34 PM

[quote]This creep pressured two teenage sisters to have sex with each other and people here are defending him.

They had free will. The sisters should be shamed, not him.

by Anonymousreply 156May 12, 2022 1:35 PM

Meanwhile, r147, the gay community is all about twinks and incest porn.

by Anonymousreply 157May 12, 2022 1:37 PM

[quote]the twins were in a hot tub when he asked them if they would do a threesome, so I'm pretty sure they were able to handle a perverted question

How is it perverted? Give me a break. Tons of guys would love to fuck twins. You’re either a frau or a very weird gay man.

by Anonymousreply 158May 12, 2022 1:38 PM

This is probably going to get me cancelled, but whatever.

Women, pick a lane.

Either you're naive waifs at the mercy of mean ole men who just want to plunder your goods and you can be talked into just about anything, when you're not being constantly raped over and over again.

Or, you're these fierce empowered warriors with agency and owning your choices.

You can't have it both ways. Choose 1, just 1 so that everybody can be on the same page.

by Anonymousreply 159May 12, 2022 1:39 PM

If you don't think there's a connection between 20 year old women claiming they're being "groomed", co-opting the language of child rape, and the loss of reproductive freedom with the end of Roe, you're deluding yourselves.

The infantilism of young women today cost them abortion.

by Anonymousreply 160May 12, 2022 4:40 PM

R158 exactly, and while we are at it, how is fucking a goat perverted? What's wrong with wanting to fuck your father? If someone has had these urges then it can't be gross.

by Anonymousreply 161May 12, 2022 8:41 PM

R155 misogynistic pervert alert! Which is redundant of course, but still.

by Anonymousreply 162May 12, 2022 8:42 PM

R139 I wouldn't be alive to enjoy anything if it weren't for women because humanity wouldn't exist.

by Anonymousreply 163May 12, 2022 8:46 PM

Cary’s girlfriend before he started dating teenagers.

He has always dated young—Imogen Poots, Margaret Qualley. Emma Watson. But fucking with immature teenagers just tempting to get caught.

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by Anonymousreply 164May 12, 2022 9:35 PM

RapeLounge

by Anonymousreply 165May 12, 2022 11:04 PM

Where is the sex tape?

by Anonymousreply 166May 12, 2022 11:09 PM

I see this all the time, lots of men have been accused of grooming 18+ year old women on Twitter.

Age of consent for females should be 22. Women are trying to send a message that they should not be held accountable for sexual activity at 18. So raise the age to 22-25.

by Anonymousreply 167May 12, 2022 11:32 PM

Get their parents to sign consent forms for them. Especially if they're still using the parents insurance.

by Anonymousreply 168May 12, 2022 11:42 PM

Bring back the chastity belt with an auto unlock at 25.

by Anonymousreply 169May 12, 2022 11:57 PM

R167 Yep and these “grown” women love the attention of victimhood , apparently 18-22 year old women are completely incapable of making headstrong decisions around older men aka “groomers”. These groomers used them for sex and they need to pay!!! Lots of bottoms doing this also.

by Anonymousreply 170May 13, 2022 12:20 AM

And it's not as if the women's youth and sex could yield any power for them in these situations.

by Anonymousreply 171May 13, 2022 2:19 AM

Women can't even vote their own interests? Why do we think they can exercise any responsibility regarding their sex lives?

by Anonymousreply 172May 13, 2022 3:03 AM

[quote]Grooming in the sense of an older man with a lot of power using his influence to coerce women looking for employment in the industry to fuck him...

So much wrong with this.

If you are eighteen or over you cannot be "groomed" and no one can "coerce" a woman if she doesn't want to be flirted with or dated. Getting a show biz job is not in the Bill of Rights and it is a KNOWN FACT that young women aren't exactly unaware of the currency of trading their youth and beauty for jobs, men, jewelry and everything else.

If women demand equality, they might quit being professional victims as a starting point!

by Anonymousreply 173May 13, 2022 4:11 AM

This useless cunt probably wishes he was Marc Anthony! He is 53 and is engaged to a 23 year old,a former beauty queen.

by Anonymousreply 174May 13, 2022 6:47 PM

Men like youth women like bank accounts, tale as old as time, deal with it.

by Anonymousreply 175May 13, 2022 6:49 PM

Men like young men too and gay men and how they behave really debunks a lot of ideas of sexism. Cause gays prefer younger men and have things like “the male gaze” too. It’s simply male nature and men get punished for behaving like men.

by Anonymousreply 176May 13, 2022 9:19 PM

PAGING DUSTIN LANCE BLACK

PAGING DUSTIN LANCE BLACK

by Anonymousreply 177May 13, 2022 9:24 PM

R176 gay men also like rich men, it really does turn the war of the sexes on it's head.

by Anonymousreply 178May 13, 2022 9:45 PM

He wants abortion to stay legal for his own selfish reasons. He doesn't care about women's rights

by Anonymousreply 179May 13, 2022 10:41 PM

R178 Absolutely!

by Anonymousreply 180May 13, 2022 11:04 PM

And to continue, it feels like people refuse to look at gay men and women and compare them to straight people to understand these societal roles and etc.

Lesbians are more violent in relationships than gay men, is that an insight into women’s view of other women?

by Anonymousreply 181May 13, 2022 11:07 PM

I really liked this guy's version on Jane Eyre.

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by Anonymousreply 182May 13, 2022 11:21 PM

Michael Fassbender is another questionable character.

by Anonymousreply 183May 14, 2022 4:53 AM

I get this guy mixed up with the dude who is dating Kate Hudson

by Anonymousreply 184May 14, 2022 8:04 AM

R184

Because they are both half-white & half-japanese?

by Anonymousreply 185May 14, 2022 9:50 AM

Cary Fukunaga’s sidekick tweeted this out…interesting…

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by Anonymousreply 186May 14, 2022 9:53 AM

No, R181. Lesbians have more testosterone than gay men and are therefore more violent.

by Anonymousreply 187May 14, 2022 11:30 AM

R181, People get crazy over pussy.

Getting dick calms you down.

by Anonymousreply 188May 14, 2022 11:55 AM

If Cary Fukunaga wasn’t hot this story would be much bigger & his career would be 100% destroyed. But he has alot of people in management protecting him. Even his college friends have participated and enabled him. The swooning comments from years ago are creepy now that he waits for teenagers to become legal.

by Anonymousreply 189May 14, 2022 1:15 PM

[quote]he waits for teenagers to become legal.

And? Does anyone remember the magazine covers and countdown clocks for when Britney and Lindsay Lohan turned 18? This isn't new. I remember on here there was that guy on the Wolf show. I can't think of his name, Castleberry or something. He was 16 with a full hairy chest and bitches on here had it clocked to the nanosecond when he would be 18.

by Anonymousreply 190May 14, 2022 1:27 PM

I remember the Britney and Lindsay stuff. I thought it was gross then and I was just a preteen. One thing I've noticed is that kind of attention to girls reaching legal age (in mainstream media) has not happened since or before then that I can see. Obviously I wasnt around before then but reading older periodicals from before the 2000s, I don't see that kind of in-your-face sleaze.

by Anonymousreply 191May 14, 2022 4:56 PM

Oh now men are coming for Cary Fukunaga!

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by Anonymousreply 192May 14, 2022 8:17 PM

wow, what a scumbag. I hope he's cancelled.

by Anonymousreply 193May 14, 2022 8:42 PM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 194May 15, 2022 4:39 AM

Some people notice that if you overuse words, they will lose their meaning.

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by Anonymousreply 195May 15, 2022 12:02 PM

That tweet is incorrect R195. He suggested an incestuous threesome. Important detail left out.

by Anonymousreply 196May 15, 2022 5:53 PM

moral of the story—never fuck around with emotionally unstable teenagers.

by Anonymousreply 197May 16, 2022 9:02 AM

Moral of the story to all straight men - turn nelly because you'll be hard pressed to find a gay man that will complain.

by Anonymousreply 198May 16, 2022 9:23 AM

SEX PEST.

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