BREAKING: Supreme court Justices Amy Coney Barrett/Alito: US needs a “domestic supply of infants”

Of course, poor people are a great source for babies and domestic staff. It's one of our greatest resources, said the handmaid 🙄

Ewwwwwww

Next stop, Soylent Green.

How is this the business of the Supreme Court?

She really is a cunt isn't she?

I will make the decisions about your ejaculations

That makes no sense. Justices don't file "briefs" with the court.

They also think they need more babies in the under class to become domestic servants.

This is what you get for fetishizing adoption

Prime Domestic Baby

Is the court prepared to open up the homes for wayward mothers again to give baby factories the support they need to carry babies for the wealthy to term?

Blessed be the fruit.

^ Thank you, but this isn't about Gays 😉

It's quite interesting that these retrograde Justices are happily basing their decision to overturn Roe on a CDC report, while Congress (aided/abetted by SCOTUS) made it ILLEGAL to fund CDC/NIH research on the scourge of guns and other firearms.

Senators Whitehouse, Klobuchar, and Warren are practically the only ones even talking about this specific issue.

Crazymaking Bizarroworld, for sure.

^ Hypocrisy is what they do, always, every single fucking time

r7, it's in Alito's draft, not in a brief. Not sure why Coney Barrett was named in OP's headline.

The weird thing about this is that the right, including our very own anti-trans trolls, have been adamantly anti-surrogacy lately, and now we find out a SCOTUS justice wants a "supply of infants" for what sounds like an entire adoption industry, and it just seems too coincidental somehow.

I'm guessing the anti-surrogacy thing wasn't just an anti-woman's choice, anti-gay stance like I'd assumed, it was also about turning the adoption field into a full-blown industry.

I'm also guessing there are a lot of fundies who own adoption agencies.

She means "more white babies".

Women are baby factories...brood mares. That's all they are. The whiter....the better.

[Quote]... but this isn't about Gays.

Well, not yet anyway.

Coney Barrett should have never been confirmed. That was the only thing Susan Collins has ever gotten right in her life.

[quote]She means "more white babies".

Yes, this is the quiet part being said out loud. It's ALL about the whole white replacement theory.

If my tinfoil hat was on a little tighter, I'd say there's a large-scale scheme going on here, entirely about profit-making and bolstering the numbers of fundies in the country.

Think about it: reduce or eliminate immigration, forcing Americans to take the lower-paid jobs that are OSHA nightmares, instead of relying on undocumented immigrant workers. To do this, you need to raise a generation with the expectation that a segment of them will HAVE to take those jobs. To achieve that kind of desperate lower-income tier of the population, you increase the amount of unwanted births, placing millions of children into neglect and poverty.

You have to make sure they can't get an education, so you gut public schools or eliminate them altogether, like that guy in Texas is already trying to do, and you make universities impossible to afford. This gives them very few ways to survive as adults, basically either the military or these terrible jobs. Corporations then benefit from a whole underclass of people desperate to work in sweatshops like it was 1902 again.

Those children that are given up for adoption will end up in fundie households, placed there by a network of Christian fundie adoption agencies, who make good profits on the scheme and raise the kids as fundies, bolstering their numbers. Christian fundie adoption agencies would refuse to let non-fundie or Jewish or Muslim people adopt, for the same legal reasons fundies don't have to bake you a wedding cake.

Meanwhile, the far-right SCOTUS slowly chips away at the rights of gays, women, voters and workers, further prioritizing the rights of corporations over humans. That underclass would be denied the right to vote. Gays wouldn't be allowed to adopt. Women wouldn't be allowed to abort and, if this goes further, which I know they want it to, they would be severely limited in how or when they could use birth control. The insurance may not pay for it, their employer may fire them if they find out they use it.

I dunno, now that I've typed it out, it doesn't sound so far-fetched anymore.

The way you’re probably fucking right, R23. Chills.

Currently in the U.K. , and I’m scared this type of mentality will one day soon make its way over here. We’re alright at the moment, but the ever-growing political allyship with the U.S. makes me anxious and fearful.

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Justices don’t write briefs.

R13 who the fuck do you think Ginni-Pig Thomas is coming for next?

@r26, but they make decisions, what's your point?

It should be noted that Alito is quoting the CDC's report on a year where there wasn't a large "domestic supply of infants...available to be adopted" and that it's not strictly his phrasing; however, the way he uses it in his draft is very much an argument that abortion should not be allowed because we don't have a large "domestic supply of infants."

Yes, but when you quote someone in your argument then you own it

Dear Americans:

This is what you want. I realized this when I was living there. We may howl at SCOTUS, we may howl at Trump, but there is a large, huge swath of America, more than you think, that wants America to be exactly this, right now. A scarily large portion of the country. You might point to yes, 73% Americans want abortion rights. But what part of that 73% was actually voting to keep the people in power that would fight for R V. Wade? There is a saying - a country gets the leadership it deserves. This didn't happen over night. This has been a push for over forty years now. So either through admittance or just plain acquiescence, this is America now. And as they say as well - Love it or Leave it. I left it.

Babies on Ebay does have a nice ring to it.

babies babies get yer fresh homegrown babies

Can’t they afford to grow their own babies with test tubes and surrogates?

@r31, "Love it or Leave it. I left it. "

Coward 😠

R35 How is it a coward? Stay and fight a battle that is never ever going to be over? Racism, Abortion, gun control. Gay rights are going to be under attack again. And Americans are so happy to be divided now. So many people's identity and reason for being is tied up in their political beliefs right now - more so than it ever has been. When I was a kid, at least there was a desire - fake or not - to come together, an idea of it. When is the last time you heard anyone talking about "coming together" as a nation? It's only about one side winning and vanquishing the other now. I am not a coward. I just finally saw the place for what it is and it's future, that most people seemed excited to be careening towards, is rather bleak.

My decision is akin to getting out of the car once you realize your friends are too drunk to drive, after a party. And they don't want to listen to you. I am not a coward for not wanting to go on that "joy ride."

🐻👑

R23 should be the Democratic Party spokesperson/chairman, not whatever mealy mouthed, nameless, faceless party hack now holds the title (and just the latest in a very long line of non-entities chosen for the position).

Fighting for Pronouns got you guys this... I hope you're happy.

@r36, You stay and fight for what's right, because if America falls, the rest of the world won't be far behind and you'll run out of places to hide

Actually: fake news.

Or should I say BEARKING: FAKE NOOZ

Pretty effective video!

These people are not only malicious they are very stupid. We already have thousands of children and babies in the foster care system and they are NOT being adopted.

It was a citation of a CDC publication. A quote in a footnote.

R24 My advice to the average concerned Brit is to make sure that if the extreme anti choice people make it to the UK do not give them a single INCH. America is in this situation because of the constant 30 year gentle handling of these people. Even the supposedly liberal media makes sure to constantly do the " both sides" routine when it comes to this subject ( while always making sure to favor the anti choicers). I've seen this favoring of the anti choice side in very prestige publications, not just Fox news. If they had been given a firm hand from the beginning (no, you will not scream and shriek at women entering Planned Parenthood, no you don't have to ever have an abortion but some women will choose to and you must accept that), we would never be in this stinking mess.

That's a fallacy R40. We as american's would like to believe that. But the world existed long before America came along. And it will exist after a supposed fall.

^ Give up and go, I don't care, but when it falls it's going to take you right with it. At least some of us will go knowing we gave it our best shot and didn't run away

I believe that Justice Amy OfAlito should carry Justice Alito's baby to term.

And the procreative act needs to be witnessed and televised.

Too late, they've been fucking in the judge's chambers for a year, because Jesus told them to

I wish there was a searchable version of the draft, because the only reference I can find to "domestic supply of infants" is the footnote about a piece published by the CDC. If you are aware of a reference to "domestic supply of infants" elsewhere in the draft, kindly advise.

FYI: A link to a PDF version of the CDC piece that was cited in the draft appears in link below.

R31 where did you go lol?

Suggesting people leave the US like it’s so easy and affordable to casually immigrate to another country and find a job.

^ It's right here...

For r51... ^

Why is this 72 year old white man making decisions about women? Especially a decision that is favorable to his narrow religious views? The court is fucked up.

Thanks R54. I made the mistake of downloading a PDF copy of the draft and using the PDF reader in Firefox which has no search functionality. MS Edge PDF reader has search functionality.

R46 yes, that's exactly right. Zero tolerance is the only and best approach.

As far as Britain, I feel that we are at least lucky that most of our native population is secular, and history tells us that fertility rights tend to come under strongest attack from zealots & fundies. Honestly, the DUP (easily sidelined and ghettoised) and the burgeoning !slam!c extrem!sm (maligned by the current majority) pose the greatest threats to us in this regard. That said, being a rural/suburban midwestern Brit with Pagan beliefs, I have noticed a disturbing if slow and subtle groundswell of American-style Xtian megachurches taking root and accruing popularity here, and I do not like it one fucking bit.

In terms of media, again we British are somewhat protected, in an odd and backwards sense, by the curiously libertarian stance of our right-leaning/Conservative publications. Generally British journalism is, I daresay, a bit more no-nonsense and a lot more moderate than the American counterpart. Our media also harbours a constant suspicion of anything new and shiny, trendy, or too foreign, which is usually a limitation but in this case could be a boon. Unfortunately, a handful of very lefty media outlets let the side down in this respect, especially the likes of The Guardian who kowtow to anyone claiming to have ever had a hurt feeling. Brutally, The Guardian are under institutional capture by the T and the 3rd Wave 'feminists' already, so goodness knows what they'll do if or when the Alt/Nu Xtians come knocking. Let's just hope that fundamentalism and 'tradwife' ideology never really catches on over here. So far we're doing rather well in resisting the T, so I have a good bit of hope.

Wondering now if there's something we can do in the coming years for vulnerable American women sent on the lamb by this horrific legislation change you are enduring. Our island is small and frankly overcrowded as it is, and our health services are already stretched too thin, but perhaps outreach and fundraising on a temporary and remote basis could be organised. I feel helpless and angry on behalf of American girls and women forced into this by an abusive ruling majority of men. I want to help, somehow.

Everything the Republicans/Christian White Male Supremacists do is at the behest of the corporate elite. Banning abortions for a "domestic supply of infants" suits the corporatocracy for cannon fodder for wars and cheap labor.

There’s babies and kids in foster care who need parents. Amy why don’t you adopt one of those? Oh, you want a specific type. Sorry, can’t help you unless you have a lot of extra cash.

If Amy had her way, American women would be this.

You know who DOESN'T adopt babies available for adoption?

Fundies.

They believe that such offspring are tainted by their origins. They will not have them in their godly homes.

These justices are living in the past.

Many people have not the money nor the desire to adopt today.

People with means are using reproductive technology.

Women have access to the Internet which will offer unthought of ways to access abortions.

[quote]Coney Barrett should have never been confirmed. That was the only thing Susan Collins has ever gotten right in her life.

Not entirely true: she also voted with McCain against repealing the Affordable Care Act in 2017 and thus made Trump incandescent with rage. So she got it right *twice* in her lifetime.

@r62, That's what I was thinking, there has to be a work around

Susan Collins was permitted to vote against Amy Covid Barrett because Mitch already had enough votes to ram through confirmation. Good girl Susan, good girl! Now go lay down.

The silver lining is that Alito is enough of an arrogant piece of shit to put this in the draft. R4 is right; how is it the business of the Supreme Court to secure market supply of anything, much less infants? These people are Mammon-worshiping scum.

[quote]^ Hypocrisy is what they do, always, every single fucking time

Absolutely - they whine about statism and say keep the state from meddling in their nuclear families but want to use the state to make the rest of us their slaves.

Bizarre and nothing to do with the case or Roe. There is no “need” for more adoptive children. In fact good public policy would do its best by minimizing the numbers of adoptive kids.

R67 yes! Focus on taking care of the kids you have, if 'children are the future' as these types love to say.

But then there's less cannon fodder, cheap labour, and proles to exploit. Though you'd think with automation and the singularity on the horizon, this would be an undesirable outcome, meaning more useless mouths to feed and support and take up space....

r24 I am in the UK and I dont think you need to be so anxious.US republicans and british conservatives are very different beasts.Plus the UK government is going to publish a surrogacy reform act in the autumn and abortion has not become the totemic big issue in UK politics as it has in the US. You are comparing apples with pears.

Handmaiden will handmaiden, what do you expect.

It was reported before that at one of these arguments (forgot which deplorable state case it was about) Barrett asked something to the effect of if rearing a child will be undue burden, why can't they just put it up for adoption instead of having to abort.

Basically she was saying rather than give women the freedom to make their choice, she'll rather impose on them the 'solution' of adoption and eliminate abortion altogether.

France has this “crèche” system which is government run daycare, free of charge (well, paid for by taxes) that frees up women to work outside the home. I think it starts at age 3.

R71, it will never fly in the old US of A:

a) cannot be free - "no more free handouts"

b) will mostly be used by low income urban families, a group which is associated with being nonwhite, and therefore see a)

Are we still calling today "Mother's Day" or is it now "Domestic Infant Supplier Day"?

r72 Crazy because there is so much corporate welfare and laws designed to protect massive corporations in the US yet ordinary people receiving support is seen as a moral outrage.

Thanks Alito -

Putting my rapist’s child up for adoption, still means I have to carry an unwanted fetus to term, undergo a possibly painful childbirth, and then figure out an adoption (by whom, him !?)

Women who will be forced by law to carry to term should hit these deplorable SCOTUSes with a class action lawsuit for child support.

[quote]You know who DOESN'T adopt babies available for adoption? Fundies. They believe that such offspring are tainted by their origins. They will not have them in their godly homes.

Don't be silly, R61. That's just code for "there aren't enough white ones". That's what Amy's really talking about here. "Domestic supply" means we want good, [white] American babies, not these inferior foreign products.

Gays, be very scared if they really said this, because of course a chunk of the adopting population is gay male couples. It will therefore be an early order of business for the Court to remove them from having the right to adopt this new, choice, cohort of babies. That is perfectly clear from the logic. And how best to do that?...

^ That's a huge leap, but ok 🙄

R71, you can put your kid in a crèche as soon as he's 2 yo. There is another condition though: that the kid has had all the jabs he's supposed to have had to be vaccinated against common diseases. Imagine how this would fly in America: but my freedumb!

Is she planning on feeding on their blood?

Gawd, this site has become a total shithole.

She sounds like Heinrich Himmler, who created baby farms of kidnaped blond foreign children for married SS men to adopt.