Why was the Academy so gung ho over Glenda Jackson in the '70s? She wasn't a bad actress, but she was so theatrical. Perhaps she was a fresh, new, exciting presence in films and her competition wasn't very strong when she won best actress for Women in Love, but how did she win for A Touch of Class, which a shitty, awful movie. Was it because she played the game later perfected by Fran McDormand, that she didn't care about awards so voters thought they were voting on merit and nominating a real actress? She just comes off as so unappealing to modern eyes and she didn't show up to accept either of her awards.
Eldergays, please explain Glenda Jackson
by Anonymous | reply 176 | September 24, 2022 12:12 AM |
Something to keep in mind:
A Touch of Class was a big hit -- it made $16.8 million worldwide in 1973, which adjusted for inflation is about $91.3 million. In addition to winning Best Actress, it was nominated for Best Picture, Best Original Screenplay, Best Dramatic Score, and Best Original Song. It was also nominated for 2 BAFTAs, 5 Golden Globes (winning for Jackson and George Segal), and won a Writers Guild award.
As for Glenda winning, I think it was the fact that she proved adept and successful in comedy having been previously perceived as a "serious" dramatic actress, and it led to her being cast in a number of comedies after that.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | May 6, 2022 8:25 PM |
She showed her boobs and bush
by Anonymous | reply 2 | May 6, 2022 8:29 PM |
I'm still traumatized by seeing her enormous, diamond-shaped ginger bush in "The Music Lovers" as she writhed about a train floor in the throes of nymphomania.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | May 6, 2022 9:17 PM |
Could OP have picked a LESS suitable clip for the evaluation of Glenda Jackson's acting?
by Anonymous | reply 4 | May 6, 2022 9:18 PM |
She's a terrific at comedy. I think "A Touch of Class" is lame, but her performance isn't. Similar to Diane Keaton in "Baby Boom": great timing and delivery make those roles ones to remember.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | May 6, 2022 9:26 PM |
[quote] Why was the Academy so gung ho over Glenda Jackson in the '70s
Because the Academy are idiots.
'Women In Love' is a well-made, entertaining film but obviously there were no rival contenders in the Oscars Horse Race in the following year.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | May 6, 2022 9:47 PM |
Oscar? I don't need no stinking Oscar.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | May 6, 2022 9:47 PM |
Poor Glenda looks like a weatherbeaten sore thumb.
She spent a decade following the Idiot Corbyn and was betrayed by her son.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | May 6, 2022 9:49 PM |
She was my favorite Elizabeth I
by Anonymous | reply 9 | May 6, 2022 9:53 PM |
The 1970s were short on magnetic actresses. Fonda went through a period where she didn't make many films, Ellen Burstyn and Faye Dunaway were probably the most interesting. Isabelle Adjani could have had a fantastic Hollywood career if she'd desired. So...we got stuck with Glenda.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | May 7, 2022 12:36 AM |
The second Oscar win was also rumored to be one of the closest races in Oscar history with a few votes separating 1-5.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | May 7, 2022 12:50 AM |
R11, I'd have probably given it to Woodward, with Burstyn and Streisand in second and third places. Jackson dead last.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | May 7, 2022 12:52 AM |
I loved A Touch of Class when I first saw it about 20 years ago. It's basically a remake of the Bob Hope, Lucille Ball flick "The Facts of Life" (with the same writers and director) One of the Real Housewives plays Glenda's daughter. I too, thought she was good, and secured her nomination, and win, for the scene where she confronts George Segal after seeing him and his wife leave the theater.
That being said, I don't think she won by many votes. None of the nominees that year really had huge momentum, and I believe that they came so close vote wise, that it allowed Glenda to get through. I think it was a similar situation with Frances McDormand last year.
Streisand, gracious as ever of course, went around saying in the press afterwards that she felt she deserved it, as opposed to Funny Girl, where she felt it should have been a five way tie.
A heavily medicated Susan Hayward zoning out as she reads Marsha Mason's name at link
by Anonymous | reply 13 | May 7, 2022 2:01 AM |
She took a lot of risks and worked with the likes of Ken Russell. You don't work with Russell unless you've got balls of steel. That man will make you do some of the most bizarre things ever seen on film.
She had a refreshing lack of vanity, but could be quite attractive if styled correctly. Actors like that tend to work longer and become more respected.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | May 7, 2022 2:27 AM |
It was while watching Women in Love I realized I was homosexual.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | May 7, 2022 2:29 AM |
R3, that scene is nothing compared to the one where her mom meets her at the asylum and she lifts her skirt and is groped by the hands of maniacs under a grill.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | May 7, 2022 2:31 AM |
[quote] It was while watching Women in Love I realized I was homosexual
That movie gave me a boner. I had to go and see it again the following week.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | May 7, 2022 6:08 AM |
The Academy Awards fetishizes anything with a British accent.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | May 7, 2022 6:16 AM |
Holy shit OP, that scene was hilarious!
by Anonymous | reply 19 | May 7, 2022 6:20 AM |
I loved her in Hopscotch with Walter Matthau, so smart. Such a funny movie.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | May 7, 2022 6:30 AM |
She should have won Oscars for "Stevie" and "Turtle Diary" too, and not shown up to accept them.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | May 7, 2022 6:33 AM |
R20 did you see House Calls (1978) also with Matthau?
by Anonymous | reply 22 | May 7, 2022 6:40 AM |
I did a million years ago, buy it didn't make as much of an impression on me, r22.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | May 7, 2022 6:48 AM |
I saw her in London in 1982. I was surprised by how small her feet were. She looks like the kind of horsey Brit who would have enormous feet like, say, Jenny Runacre (whom I can confirm has shoes like canoes).
by Anonymous | reply 24 | May 7, 2022 6:49 AM |
I thought her movies with Matthau were OK, but her second one with George Segal, "Lost and Found," is painfully unfunny.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | May 7, 2022 6:55 AM |
OP's clip should be featured on the multimedia encyclopedia under "mansplaining" and "bloviations".
by Anonymous | reply 26 | May 7, 2022 7:33 AM |
[quote]R10 Isabelle Adjani could have had a fantastic Hollywood career if she'd desired.
Oh, she desired it. She went over just about as well as glacial, flat chested Catherine Deneuve in “Hustle.”
by Anonymous | reply 27 | May 7, 2022 7:37 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 28 | May 7, 2022 7:43 AM |
Come back to the Five & Dime, Jean Seberg.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | May 7, 2022 7:46 AM |
[quote] "Lost and Found," is painfully unfunny.
That's because Jackson has no sense of humour.
She was more interested in proletarian hatred within the welfare state.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | May 7, 2022 9:21 AM |
Walter Matthau announcing best actress in a very florid style. I have to wonder if his intro helped position Jackson as the faux successor to Davis, Garbo, and Hepburn.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | May 7, 2022 5:38 PM |
Right, should Glenda have been nominated for "Stevie" when it came out in 1978? Or 1981? Thoughts?
She was superior to Jane Fonda in "Coming Home" or Hepburn in "On Golden Pond".
by Anonymous | reply 32 | May 8, 2022 2:52 PM |
Stevie was released only in LA in 1878 for a brief run. It was given a nationwide release in 1981, but since it had already played in the US three years prior, I believe it was ineligible for Academy consideration. Although Glenda won critics awards in both years.
Glenda (and Mona Washbourne) definitely would have been nominated had it had a nationwide release in 1978.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | May 8, 2022 3:00 PM |
Geri Page should have gone Supporting for Interiors, making room for Glenda in 78
by Anonymous | reply 34 | May 8, 2022 3:17 PM |
R34, if Page had gone to supporting, Olivia Newton-John would have been a best actress nominee.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | May 8, 2022 3:26 PM |
Plus she was on a roll in the mid to early 70s. After her breakthrough in Women In Love, she won two Emmys for the Elizabeth R miniseries in this time frame. And the Academy loves the Brits. Emma Thompson in the early to mid 90s and Olivia Colman currently got on to these rolls where they can do no wrong and are either nominated a lot and win. I loved ATOC. Glenda is very adept at comedy as much as drama and she infuses her scenes with punch and intelligence. Streisand probably had the best chance if Jackson didn’t win. But I can imagine the vote being very close and I wouldn’t be surprised if the rumor of only a handful of votes or so separating them all was true.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | May 8, 2022 3:51 PM |
Glenda Jackson is a tremendous actress, dear American. Of course, I don't expect much taste of someone who worships the likes of Crawford and Streisand, and who thinks the Oscars are serious awards.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | May 8, 2022 4:03 PM |
I'm a fully-committed homo but her tits looked really great, very suckable nips
by Anonymous | reply 38 | May 8, 2022 4:22 PM |
Of her peers, I prefer Maggie Smith or Judi Dench. They seem to have a sense of humor and lightness to their acting.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | May 8, 2022 4:39 PM |
She was my MP for a while. By all accounts she was extremely hard working. I agree that her Oscar winning roles were not her best film performances. I prefer her as Charlotte Corday in Marat/Sade and as Stevie Smith in Stevie. I have seen her on stage twice and she is a very commanding presence.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | May 8, 2022 4:54 PM |
[quote]The Academy Awards fetishizes anything with a British accent.
Exactly. A lot of those British wins were not based on merit. In fact, Brits often suck at the American accent(s). Hollywood is run by liberals, who tend to have a hard-on for Europeans. Nowadays, you've got the woke liberals who are ruining the arts tossed in there, too Thus, Hollywood need be purged of these woke Europhiles.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | May 8, 2022 5:00 PM |
Gasp! Lisa Vanderpump was in the movie!
by Anonymous | reply 42 | May 8, 2022 5:09 PM |
According to Streisand biographies, she lost for Way We Were largely due to being unpopular in Hollywood at that time. Her rep was at a low point, and she was a constant tabloid fixture during oscar season due to her romance with Jon Peters. I think he got into a brawl at some sporting event. Anyway, it's what supposedly cost her from winning.
Honestly, if she hadn't tied for Funny Girl, I wonder if she would even have an acting oscar.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | May 8, 2022 5:17 PM |
I doubt it R43, as pointed out people didn't like her as her Diva rep and messy lovelife turned people off. After The Way we were she was never nominated for Actress again.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | May 8, 2022 5:24 PM |
I believe she refused to perform The Way We Were at the Oscars that year and they got Peggy Lee to do it. And she hid backstage when her category came up, instead of out in the audience like all the rest of her co nominees. Her diva bullshit was already in full force. So it wouldn’t surprise me a bit it cost her votes in an extremely tight race.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | May 8, 2022 5:31 PM |
R43, Streisand would have definitely had an acting career. Funny Girl, a period musical about a Jewish comedienne, was the top grossing film of the year at a time when the world was more interested in topical events. Hello Dolly! was also a blockbuster.
As for winning for The Way We Were, if you dig into the archives for Oscar pundits columns in 1974, nearly everyone predicted Joanne Woodward to win. Several say that if there was momentum for The Exorcist, Ellen Burstyn could have been swept along to victory. Very few predicted Streisand would win. These pundits claim this was based on conversations with voters.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | May 8, 2022 5:32 PM |
R46 I think more voters probably saw TWWW than SWWD, that, along with Streisands star power, and you couldn’t count her out. Woodward was respected and won the NY film critics lead actress award. The Exorcist wasn’t going to sweep key awards like pic and director because of the controversy even though it was a monster hit. Mason was still a newbie up against established power houses so I believe she was never a serious contender despite her globe win. I still think it’s possible Streisand placed second. Woodward third, Burstyn fourth, and Mason fifth. Woodward maaaaybe second. We will never know for sure.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | May 8, 2022 5:44 PM |
If Glenda Jackson didn't exist, would Diana Rigg have had a movie career?
by Anonymous | reply 48 | May 8, 2022 5:48 PM |
I would have let Alan Bates put his big hairy cock in me circa Women In Love
by Anonymous | reply 49 | May 8, 2022 5:52 PM |
[quote]I think more voters probably saw TWWW than SWWD, that, along with Streisands star power, and you couldn’t count her out.
As I said in the Sally Kirkland thread, a lot of voters don't see every nominated movie and judge. The Oscars has always been more about politics, and popularity than the actual movie/performance.
Streisand was seen as a difficult perfectionist and her romance with Jon Peters raised eyebrows and drew a lot of unwanted, negative attention. Although Peters more than proved his naysayers wrong.
Barbara Walters (and John Huston) even talked about that period starting at 3:55
by Anonymous | reply 50 | May 8, 2022 6:01 PM |
R47, you say that in hindsight. In 1974, many people thought The Exorcist might sweep the Oscars. Linda Blair was predicted to win best supporting actress until it was revealed that Mercedes McCambridge contributed to her vocal effects. The film was a sensation and had everyone talking. It was the kind of hit that the film industry needed and think of how much more money it would have grossed for Warner Bros if it had won. Certainly, everyone at WB voted for it. I think The Sting only won by a few votes.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | May 8, 2022 6:12 PM |
Elizabeth R was the greatest acting performance of the 20th century. She's a better actress than Dench, Smith or Mirren COMBINED. Even Laurence Olivier said he had sleepless nights feeling envious of Glenda Jackson's genius.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | May 8, 2022 6:14 PM |
[Quote] Streisand was seen as a difficult perfectionist
She was seen as a pain in the ass.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | May 8, 2022 6:14 PM |
R52, LOL!
by Anonymous | reply 54 | May 8, 2022 6:19 PM |
I've always thought Burstyn deserved to win for The Exorcist. She grounds the picture because her character has to come to terms with the fact that her daughter is possessed and make us the audience believe it, too.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | May 8, 2022 6:29 PM |
R50 but a lot of voters DO see the films too. I think more than then now when in 2022 there are 20 million things to watch. It’s plausible Woodward came in second. But Streisand could’ve easily too. The Way We Were and the teaming of Redford and Babs, plus the song that was number one when members were voting which was promoting the film too, was much more in the zeitgeist than SWWD which is forgotten today.
R51 The Exorcist never stood a serious chance with the older contingent of voters, which even to this day, dominates Oscar voting. Disturbing horror films simply didn’t win in this era. Plus the McCambridge Blair thing probably served to subtract more potential votes for the film itself. Newman and Redford slick Hollywood studio film shtick was the type of material voters had a hard on for over Pazuzu any day.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | May 8, 2022 6:39 PM |
Burstyn probably had the last laugh since The Exorcist is still being talked about to this day while the others aren't. Her not winning for Requiem For A Dream was an even bigger oversight. She was phenomenal in that film and broke my heart.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | May 8, 2022 6:45 PM |
No explanation needed. She was a 'name' for about five years in the early 70's, then poof.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | May 8, 2022 6:50 PM |
If there was justice at the Academy Awards, Burstyn would have three Oscars: for The Exorcist, Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, and Requiem for a Dream.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | May 8, 2022 6:50 PM |
If Burstyn had won for The Exorcist then Our Faye would have won the following year for Chinatown
by Anonymous | reply 60 | May 8, 2022 6:52 PM |
r54, why are you laughing? This is all true. Olivier was at an insecure point in his career where the triumphs of a 35 year old where threatening to him.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | May 8, 2022 6:52 PM |
R60, if Burstyn had won for The Exorcist, Gena Rowlands would have won the following year.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | May 8, 2022 6:56 PM |
Let me put this into some context for the idiots who are too used to mediocrity to understand true acting greatness. Glenda Jackson in her mid 30s convincingly played Elizabeth I from the ages of 18 to 70 years old over a span of just six episodes and no viewer was left in any doubt of how real she made the entire lifespan. If you think ANY of your faves could do that, I don't know what to tell you.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | May 8, 2022 6:57 PM |
She wasn't shy, she gladly showed tits and hairy fanny in more than one movie.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | May 8, 2022 7:02 PM |
Typical that the moron OP selects a clip which doesn't even showcase Glenda's contribution to that movie.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | May 8, 2022 7:03 PM |
I’ll describe her: a wonderful actress always fascinating to watch- now you do the rest.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | May 8, 2022 7:04 PM |
R63, dayum, now we've got a Glenda Jackson troll on DL. Who'd have thought?
by Anonymous | reply 67 | May 8, 2022 7:05 PM |
r67, it's not my fault if you're threatened by greatness.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | May 8, 2022 7:07 PM |
Dame Helen Mirren was pissed that Glenda got all the 70s claim in spite of them both going nude. She said something like "Old Glenda gets her fanny out in a movie and gets an Oscar. I slips my knickers off and get called the Sex Queen of Stratford."
by Anonymous | reply 69 | May 8, 2022 7:15 PM |
R68, lol. She was acclaimed, but I doubt many would describe her as great. Smith and Dench surpassed her. She couldn't hold a candle to Vivien Leigh. Compare their performances as Emma Hamilton. Try to sit through Jackson in The Romantic Englishwoman or Hedda. It can't be done.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | May 8, 2022 7:32 PM |
It wasn’t just that she got naked, it was that she was an unattractive woman who did so that made people go nutso for her. She’s a worse actress than Maggie Smith and Vanessa Redgrave, on par with Helen Mirren (and I agree with Mirren’s complaints about Glenda, Mirren was just more conventionally sexy so her going nude didn’t get the critics all stirred). If you’ve seen one Glenda Jackson performance you’ve seen them all.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | May 8, 2022 7:43 PM |
r70 obviously you never watched Glenda in Elizabeth R. Otherwise you wouldn't be so ignorant.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | May 8, 2022 7:47 PM |
Helen had bigger boobs and blonde hair so was perceived as a bimbo. Both had unwaxxed whiskers down below
by Anonymous | reply 73 | May 8, 2022 7:56 PM |
Are we pretending that Helen was in prestige productions back then? Not on screen, mostly.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | May 8, 2022 7:59 PM |
I think Mirren resented she wasn't being considered for prestige movies and had to do shit like "Caligula" "Hussy" and "The Fiendish Plot Of Dr fu Manchu" where she had to strip
by Anonymous | reply 75 | May 8, 2022 8:04 PM |
I don't think "had to strip" describes Mirren well. She has her knockers. And you will see them.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | May 8, 2022 8:06 PM |
Mirren didn’t really get prestige vehicles til the 90s, unlike Jackson who after WIL and her first Oscar win never looked back.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | May 8, 2022 8:14 PM |
Damn, Baba Wawa is an annoying twit. That was so uncomfortable to watch. If I were Babs, I’d have shoved her Oscar up Wawa’s rancid cunt.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | May 8, 2022 8:15 PM |
Helen is a whore. She is pals with Harvey.
A Harvey girl, or in her case, a Harvey Dame.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | May 8, 2022 8:15 PM |
Helen titty fucking Liam Neeson must have been quite a sight.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | May 8, 2022 8:16 PM |
Dame Judi Dench was a Harvey Girl too. I think all her Oscar nominations were for his movies. Don't know if she traded sex for his promotion and roles but something is fishy.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | May 8, 2022 8:17 PM |
Glenda wasn't a Weinstein enabler like Dench, Smith and Mirren. Glenda also turned down a Damehood because she said fuck the monarchy unlike those luvvies.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | May 8, 2022 8:22 PM |
[quote]Mirren didn’t really get prestige vehicles til the 90s,
Like Judi Dench, they both rose in prominence after Glenda retired.
At least Judi acknowledges this.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | May 8, 2022 8:30 PM |
Mirren always felt the dames looked down on her as a common tart who always had her kit off. Part of why she campaigned so hard for her Oscar.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | May 8, 2022 8:49 PM |
R52, R54, R61 You will have to find a link for Olivier's alleged admiration for Jackson.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | May 8, 2022 10:48 PM |
She didn't have a lot of sex appeal, did she? And she played the title role in The Romantic Englishwoman, a mis-named film if ever there was one.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | May 9, 2022 5:13 AM |
I could never muster up the enthusiasm to read “Hedda Gabler” again after college, but the I saw that Glenda Jackson’s version was on YouTube and I’m so glad I watched it.
She’s vibrant… a lot of authority. This is star acting, that thing that has a little more electricity than other performers bring.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | May 9, 2022 5:15 AM |
Inspired by this thread, I watched Stevie (1978) last night (it's available on ScreenPix). Ha -- based on the movie poster and video box cover, I'd always assumed for decades that it was a comedy. No, no, no. There are a few funny lines, but it's a stage-bound, oppressive drama of Jackson monologuing all over the place about her unhappiness, loneliness, and obsession with death.. She's fantastic, no doubt, and so is Mona Washbourne, but 2 hours of a morose woman going on and on about death is not a lot of fun.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | May 9, 2022 7:16 PM |
I certainly don't remember it as "oppressive", r88. Anyway, regarding Helen's jugs...
by Anonymous | reply 89 | May 9, 2022 7:23 PM |
R89 lol, I want the crew to show their willies... Fish of their old cocks...!
by Anonymous | reply 90 | May 9, 2022 8:45 PM |
Jackson was tart and acerbic.
Jackson was not a luvvie or a team player.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | May 9, 2022 9:39 PM |
I saw Women in Love when it came out in 1969. She was incredibly sexual and vital. She ate Oliver Reed for lunch: "You break me, you waste me, and it is terrible to me." He crawls off in the snow and freezes to death. THAT was something new in films. I got hard just watching her performance.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | May 9, 2022 9:43 PM |
Oh, R92, you sound like a misandrist.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | May 9, 2022 9:55 PM |
Jackson would never play a supporting role in a movie or on stage.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | May 9, 2022 10:03 PM |
Got to meet Glenda a few time when she was doing Broadway. I asked what she thought of Brexit and she "Well it is a mess isn't it?" and I said YOu have to go back to Parliament and fixes it all and she laughed and said "Are you daft?". She signed "Woman In Love" Criterion Collection Blu-ray.
And I said it here before, I also met Juliet Mills and asked her if Glenda asked her except her Oscar and she said no, The Academy did. She was there the night her father won for "Ryan's Daughter".
by Anonymous | reply 95 | May 9, 2022 10:06 PM |
R95 I imagine the hard-faced Jackson would have been utterly contemptuous of the old-style, empire-loving luvvie Johnnie Mills and his spawn.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | May 9, 2022 10:19 PM |
Jackson's old BBC series about Elizabeth I was the definitive portrayal of Queen Bess - nobody else came close, certainly not Cate Blanchett.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | May 9, 2022 10:29 PM |
Elizabeth R was the best— it actually showed Mirrens’s limitations in playing that role. As someone mentioned above, going from teenager to old dying queen — and being convincing in each episode— is fucking impressive. She was more commanding as a queen who really kicked ass when the monarchy was strong. She did more than strut around and have temper tantrums like Mirren did.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | May 9, 2022 10:41 PM |
[quote] who really kicked ass
That seems to be the American's definition of great acting. 'Kicking ass'.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | May 9, 2022 10:49 PM |
I really enjoyed her in House Calls with Matthau. Hopscotch was dull and she made a dull cameo in it.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | May 9, 2022 10:59 PM |
R100 Glenda specialised in strong women/bitches.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | May 9, 2022 11:00 PM |
She had a fun cameo in "The Boyfriend."
by Anonymous | reply 103 | May 9, 2022 11:02 PM |
I read somewhere that Bette Davis called Jackson to tell her she’d one the Academy Award. Was Jackson considered a successor? She’s great in Sunday, Bloody Sunday. It’s a heartbreaker film.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | May 9, 2022 11:04 PM |
I was a child when she was at the height of her acting fame. Her looks frightened me. The teeth, the eyes – she just looked wicked to me.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | May 9, 2022 11:04 PM |
R97 I remember back then the PBS channel ran a promo for Elizabeth R in which she'd roar at some advisor, "Do not think you can trick ME!" It was very "Don't fuck with me, fellas!" In high school I'd grandly use the line (but only with my safe little coterie of school-play kids). I'd love to see that particular clip again.
by Anonymous | reply 106 | May 9, 2022 11:11 PM |
Burstyn’s role in The Exorcist is an ensemble part. I can’t see that as a winner. Woodward’s movie was a downer. It must’ve been a poor year for actresses. Wasn’t Clayburgh performing in something? Wasn’t that he year of Blume in Love?
by Anonymous | reply 107 | May 9, 2022 11:12 PM |
Glenda always seems irritated.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | May 9, 2022 11:13 PM |
R99–I wasn’t referring to acting as such but how monarchs ruled then, with an iron fist.
Are you that dense, oh subtle one?
by Anonymous | reply 109 | May 9, 2022 11:19 PM |
R109 Some nerd will tell us that that a disproportionate amount of American Oscars are given to persons playing monarchs and persons playing blind/deaf/cripples people
by Anonymous | reply 110 | May 9, 2022 11:23 PM |
1973 wasn't a great year for leading actresses. Tatum O'Neal (Paper Moon) got bumped to Supporting cuz she was a kid, thus depriving genuine supporting co-star Madeline Kahn of her rightful Oscar.
Other options that likely didn't stand a chance:
Julie Christie (Don't Look Now)
Sissy Spacek (Badlands)
Pam Grier (Coffy)
Kay Lenz (Breezy)
Tamara Dobson (Cleopatra Jones)
There were some great foreign actress performances from 1973 -- Romy Schneider in The Last Train, Florinda Balkan in A Brief Vacation -- but I don't know if they were released in Los Angeles in '73 to qualify.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | May 9, 2022 11:35 PM |
Shelley for Featured?
by Anonymous | reply 112 | May 9, 2022 11:40 PM |
Liv Ullmann in "The New Land" won some critics' prizes and had been nominated the year before for "The Emigrants," in which she played the same character at at earlier stage in her life. Both performances are among the greatest I've seen.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | May 9, 2022 11:44 PM |
Let's not leave out Jackson's Tony-winning performance in Albee's Three Tall Women in 2018. I am still pissed with myself that I didn't make the effort to get tickets.
Saw Marian Seldes as B in TTW in SF on its first national tour. Superb.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | May 10, 2022 12:30 AM |
Why do Brit actresses fail with Martha (of Albee fame)?
by Anonymous | reply 115 | May 10, 2022 12:38 AM |
[quote] Glenda always seems irritated.
You're right, Maggie @ R108. That's why she had to join the Labor Party so she could get paid to whine professionally. See R30.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | May 10, 2022 12:40 AM |
During a lull in her career, Glenda appeared opposite John Lithgow at the Vine Street Theater in Hollywood. She played Martha in "Whose Afraid of Virginia Wolf." I thought she would be terrific, huffing and puffing and chewing up the scenery a la Bette Davis. Not only did she stink she was a bore. Someone told her it would be novel to play a "nice" Martha. I think she excelled as a left-wing Labor Party Member of the British Parlement in real life. She'd have my vote, god damn it.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | May 10, 2022 12:42 AM |
GJ is also superb playing Elizabeth I in “Mary, Queen if Scotts” (1971)
Nice that she got a good paycheck out of it, as the public television “Elizabeth R” probably didn’t pay that well.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | May 10, 2022 12:44 AM |
[quote] Hopscotch was dull and she made a dull cameo in it.
I disagree, Egglady r101. Hopscotch was very clever and funny.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | May 10, 2022 2:59 AM |
r103 see r100
by Anonymous | reply 121 | May 10, 2022 3:49 AM |
Both of her Robert Altman films sucked: Health and Beyond Therapy.
by Anonymous | reply 122 | May 10, 2022 3:54 AM |
Just streamed Hopscotch free on OK. Very funny in a dry, clever way. Thanks.
by Anonymous | reply 123 | May 10, 2022 4:59 AM |
Judi Dench could never in a million years have given Glenda Jackson's Elizabeth R performance. That's how you know someone is great, when you realize all the luvvie actors like Dench and Smith who we have held up as the gold standard would be woefully inadequate trying to do Glenda's part.
by Anonymous | reply 124 | May 10, 2022 9:04 AM |
[quote] Dench and Smith
Dench is too soft and Smith is too campy.
Jackson is too hard and rather unpleasant.
by Anonymous | reply 125 | May 10, 2022 9:30 AM |
In a fight, Jackson could easily punt that midget Dench right out of the ring.
And I’d like to see it.
by Anonymous | reply 126 | May 10, 2022 9:32 AM |
Imelda Staunton was too much as Martha and Diana Rigg could have been great, but was never able to lose her accent. Brits don't do Albee well for some reason.
That said, Glenda was wonderful in Three Tall Women and I'm so glad I got to see her do that show.
by Anonymous | reply 127 | May 10, 2022 6:12 PM |
Even Billie Whitelaw disappointed.
by Anonymous | reply 128 | May 10, 2022 6:26 PM |
Glenda was great in the recent Elizabeth is Missing. Her performance and Anthony Hopkins' in The Father are the definitive portrayals of people with Alzheimer's and other actors needn't bother trying.
by Anonymous | reply 129 | May 10, 2022 6:29 PM |
R129 she was spectacular in this. Have you seen Julie Christie in "Away From Her"?
I also thought Judi Dench was marvellous in "Iris" in 2001 as someone battling Alzheimer's.
by Anonymous | reply 130 | May 10, 2022 6:33 PM |
NEVER got the appeal of Glenda Jackson. Utterly humorless and sour.
by Anonymous | reply 131 | May 10, 2022 6:35 PM |
I preferred Glenda and Anthony's performances. Glenda was all-out raging and Anthony's was so internalized, it was like the dementia was seeping out through his pores.
by Anonymous | reply 132 | May 10, 2022 6:36 PM |
Anthony's final scene in The Father absolutely tore me into pieces.
by Anonymous | reply 133 | May 10, 2022 6:44 PM |
R133 that performance certainly deserved an Oscar. Most great actors as they age just cannibalize (heh-heh) their early performances: De Niro, Pacino, Streep, etc. Hopkins broke new ground when he was over 80.
by Anonymous | reply 134 | May 10, 2022 6:49 PM |
r134, Anthony's upset win for The Father was one of the most satisfying wins in Oscar history, as far as I'm concerned.
by Anonymous | reply 135 | May 10, 2022 6:53 PM |
R135 even more galling when black twitter had a hissy fit about Chadwick Boseman losing for a mediocre performance in a mediocre film.
by Anonymous | reply 136 | May 10, 2022 7:01 PM |
Love Sir Anthony, glad he won't just be a winner for Hannibal Lecter (although he was mesmerising there too).
by Anonymous | reply 137 | May 10, 2022 7:02 PM |
Miranda Richardson played Honey in the early 80s, but I could see her as Martha...
by Anonymous | reply 138 | May 10, 2022 7:09 PM |
R139 Inappropriate miscasting.
Nineteenth-century Frenchman would not have warmed to an icy, bony, hard-faced, charmless woman like Jackson.
by Anonymous | reply 140 | May 10, 2022 10:22 PM |
I believe you mean inappropriate casting, r140.
by Anonymous | reply 141 | May 11, 2022 2:54 AM |
Youth-gay, please explain why you’re too stupid to decide yourself?
by Anonymous | reply 142 | May 11, 2022 3:13 AM |
I admire Glenda Jackson not only because she is a great actress but what she overcame in the process. Not conventionally attractive, she had lank greasy hair, severe acne that plagued her into adulthood, crooked teeth, obesity through her teens, and varicose veins. She had to constantly wash her hair and scrub her face. The makeup man did a good job covering her acne scarred cheeks. Here is an interesting photo of her from 1956 at age 20, the year she graduated from the RADA. She had a bit part in a movie called "The Extra Day" released June 25, 1956.
by Anonymous | reply 143 | July 21, 2022 8:32 AM |
OP She "wasn't a bad actress"? Do you even know what good acting is? She was phenomenal! I haven't seen her in anything of late after her political stint, but for me she is up there with Vanessa, Meryl, Charlotte Rampling, Julie Christie and Judy Davis.
by Anonymous | reply 144 | July 21, 2022 1:18 PM |
I remember going to a double feature as a teen with my sister back in 1976. This was before video rentals and the theaters would run older movies. This revival theater specialized in both American and British films. It was "Women In Love" (1970) and Vanessa Redgrave in "Isadora" (1968). I was shocked by observing my first nude sex scene on film in WIL when Oliver Reed sucks on Glenda's big red nipple. My eyes must have bugged out! Glenda was pregnant with her son Daniel during the filming in the Fall of 1968. Her normally flat chest had plumped out nicely. Director Ken Russell was delighted because it enhanced the scene. I recall during their rolling around on the bed Glenda returns the favor by sucking on Oliver's nipple.
by Anonymous | reply 145 | July 25, 2022 7:44 AM |
Her normally flat chest had plumped out nicely? God that sounds perverse.
by Anonymous | reply 146 | July 25, 2022 8:29 AM |
Bette Davis adored Glenda Jackson. Ditto Sissy Spacek & Debra Winger.
In the case of Jackson & Spacek it was thought Davis admired them because they were not considered beautiful and relied on acting ability.
In the case of Winger it was not only her acting ability but her cunty attitude.
by Anonymous | reply 147 | July 25, 2022 8:48 AM |
Though Jackson basically retired from acting after starting her political career, she was recently in a BBC production Elizabeth Is Missing. She was excellent playing a woman with dementia trying to recall a crime in her youth. Her Elizabeth I in the ground-breaking BBC series was superb. Nobody - not Blanchett or anybody else - ever came as close. I wonder if the series is still available anywhere.
by Anonymous | reply 148 | July 25, 2022 3:14 PM |
r148, Elizabeth R. is available for streaming on BritBox and Hoopla.
by Anonymous | reply 149 | July 27, 2022 11:21 PM |
Never understood her appeal.
by Anonymous | reply 150 | July 27, 2022 11:26 PM |
[quote] Eldergays, please explain Glenda Jackson
WHERE ??? All I see in that clip is Alan Bates <3 <3 <3
by Anonymous | reply 151 | July 27, 2022 11:35 PM |
r143 that creature is NOT Glenda.
by Anonymous | reply 152 | July 28, 2022 12:27 AM |
Another in the line of British actresses Carol Burnett reportedly had an affair with.
When Jackson did Hedda Gabler, she was roasted. Time magazine headlined its review "Turkey Gabler".
by Anonymous | reply 153 | July 28, 2022 1:55 AM |
Bitchy Pauline Kael hated Glenda. In her review of Ken Russel's Music Lovers, she noted that the audience is supposed to understand that Tchaikovsky was gay because of the train scene. "Glenda Jackson rolling around naked on the floor of a train carriage, surrounded by broken glass, is not everybody's cup of tea."
by Anonymous | reply 154 | July 28, 2022 2:35 AM |
Pauline Kael was a nasty old bag
by Anonymous | reply 155 | July 28, 2022 5:17 PM |
If you agreed with Kael, she was a genius, if you didn't she was a nasty old bag. And BTW, she loved Jackson.
by Anonymous | reply 156 | July 28, 2022 5:38 PM |
R156 she did - except in Music Lovers.
by Anonymous | reply 157 | July 28, 2022 5:43 PM |
R154 That is not as bad a making Vanessa Redgrave masturbate with a charred bone of Oliver Reed towards the end of the uncut version of The Devils.
by Anonymous | reply 158 | July 29, 2022 10:48 AM |
R10- She looks like John Hurt.
by Anonymous | reply 159 | July 29, 2022 11:19 AM |
R143- She looks so PLAIN and so DYKEY in that photo.
by Anonymous | reply 160 | July 29, 2022 11:22 AM |
Particularly then, the Academy liked to think of itself as having "taste" which gave an edge to foreign actresses and those from the theater and that had been going on and continued for quite awhile. That's why you get Geraldine Page winning for devouring scenery whole in "Trip to Bountiful". Glendawas stagey and foreign, so she had to win at least once.
by Anonymous | reply 161 | July 29, 2022 11:31 AM |
R69- Helen was at her best in the 1990’s playing Detective Inspector Jane Tennison.
by Anonymous | reply 162 | July 29, 2022 11:32 AM |
[quote]That is not as bad a making Vanessa Redgrave masturbate with a charred bone of Oliver Reed towards the end of the uncut version of The Devils.
SPOILER! Thanks 158!
by Anonymous | reply 163 | August 1, 2022 11:48 PM |
“No Knickers” Mirren is how she’s referred to in her homeland.
by Anonymous | reply 164 | August 2, 2022 1:48 AM |
John Simon also made nasty cracks about Glenda Jackson's looks in the 70's but what a great time it was! Being a young gayling and experiencing Glenda and Alan Bates and Oliver Reed in "Women in Love" (a wonderful film adaptation of the novel) was like a seismic, emotional, cinematic orgasm. I walked out of that cinema a full fledged homosexual. Between Glenda dancing a la Isadora Duncan for the bulls and the nude wrestling scene between Bates and Reed, I was gay levitating. Wish I could relive that moment on my life. I own the Criterion dvd just to relive those emotions. Glenda is an extraordinary actress. Her performance in "Three Tall Women" was a master class.
by Anonymous | reply 165 | August 2, 2022 2:45 AM |
Glenda Jackson is a brilliant actress. She remains the best Elizabeth I there's ever been. I have never been disappointed in a performance of hers and I'm thrilled she's back.
by Anonymous | reply 166 | August 2, 2022 2:51 AM |
She could make the mere action of taking the first sip of coffee in the morning an entire acting class. ( HOPSCOTCH)
by Anonymous | reply 167 | August 2, 2022 3:49 AM |
How does DL rate her performance in Genet's THE MAIDS?
by Anonymous | reply 168 | September 17, 2022 7:10 PM |
[quote] The 1970s were short on magnetic actresses
True. Apart from the Redgraves, Vanessa and Lynn, Sigourney , Keaton, Deneuve, Aggiani, Farrow, Gena Rowlands, Sarah Miles, Claudia Cardinale, Julie Christie, Monica Vitti, Jeanne Moreau, Pam Grier, Katharine Ross, Jackie Bisset, Lange, there was nobody.
by Anonymous | reply 169 | September 17, 2022 7:20 PM |
R26
Also, "Enjoying Making Women Uncomfortable While Mistakenly Thinking He's Sexy"
by Anonymous | reply 170 | September 17, 2022 7:38 PM |
The Academy loved Brits OP 1960s Best picture winners: Lawrence of Arabia, Tom Jones, A Man for All Seasons, Oliver and My Fair Lady which was an American production set in England with a mostly British cast.
The year after Glenda won 4 out of 5 of the Best Actress nominees were British. The lone American won.
by Anonymous | reply 171 | September 17, 2022 7:39 PM |
I fell in love with Glenda Jackson when I saw "Women in Love" at the same time I fell madly in lust with Alan Bates and Oliver Reed.
by Anonymous | reply 172 | September 17, 2022 8:15 PM |
I thought Jackson was great in "The Maids"; she had played the role on stage and we're fortunate to have a filmed record of that performance. If only they had also filmed her Phaedra and her Lady Macbeth...
by Anonymous | reply 173 | September 23, 2022 11:27 PM |
Why are we even discussing Glenda and her big bush? That scene belongs to the wonderful Eleanor Bron.
by Anonymous | reply 174 | September 23, 2022 11:51 PM |
She was terrific in Three Tall Women on Broadway a few years ago. Wonderful to see someone of her age still so sharp and energetic. I felt fortunate to be able to see her live and on stage.
by Anonymous | reply 175 | September 23, 2022 11:53 PM |
Very little shocks me, but you "sophisticated" bitches pulled it off! I'm the ONLY Datalounger who associates her with the leading role in [italic]La Casa de Bernarda Alba[/italic]? I mean, c'mon ... we're talking Ice Cold Bitch, and I'm the only one who recalls that? Joan Plowright powerless to prevent the trainwreck she sees coming.
by Anonymous | reply 176 | September 24, 2022 12:12 AM |