Harry and Meghan to attend Queen's jubilee but won't be on Buckingham Palace balcony

It would be disgusting if they were! They are NOT the faces of the royal family. They opted out, remember? You're a twat OP.

Its pathetic for them that the only thing that keeps them in the headlines is the "will they, won't they" with the royal family.

Negroes in the house, negroes in the house!

I think it's a big mistake having them attend anything after the way they've insulted the Royals and the nation.

They'll be sorry when Harry's memoirs are released.

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Justice for the Sussexes and Yorks!!!

Lock them in the Tower of London

He’s still my grandson even if he is a royal shithead. Besides, Harry makes me laugh. I eagerly await his latest ribald stories.

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Harry is so stupid. I don’t even blame Meghan for all pf the nonsense. It isn’t her family. She was a relative nobody before she met Harry. She gained the world by getting with him. He is the one who has lost in this whole situation.

They need those royal connections, don't they? Will they bring their netflix crew?

I can’t believe they would extend any olive branch to them. I would’ve cut them off completely and Charles should too when he rules.

The Queen outfoxed them. If they refuse to come because she won't let them have le grande photo op, they look like grifters. They'll get some royal glitter, but no more than other family members who just get to sit in the cathedral.

But having generously allowed them to attend at all, if Harry's memoir trashes the family, he'll look worse.

And, he's been classed with Uncle Andrew.

Well done to the Queen for calling it perfectly.

Big fuckin deal. These days the crowd underneath the balcony are mostly Chinese tourists, for whom the Royals may also well be Albanians for all they know. A guide at Chatsworth told me one Chinese thought he was touring Buckingham Palace and was pissed off to learn he wasn't.

It is getting more, and more awkward with the newborn pictures the older Archie gets.

If they are seen in public, wonder if the couple will elicit boos?

After The Harkles slammed the British Public, don’t think there is any love lost with the Brits (calling them racist, treating them like dirt, minimizing them, and insisting they fund millions millions for their “spectacle” of a wedding).

Queenie may bend over backwards to accomodate them, but they no longer have a connection to the British populace.

R10 Lost??? Au contrare. Ginger married a bludgeon that he can wield against the family he despises and blames for every perceived slight and problem.

I don’t know why, but I sense their kid is going to be used like a pawn between H&M and the royals for the rest of his life.

[Meghan to Archie, loud enough for others to hear]

It doesn’t matter you’re not allowed on the balcony, sweetheart, you’re special to ME.

Will Princess Michael of Kent be on The Balcony?

They need photos and material to promote themselves.

Hahahaha

When you click on OP’s link, the picture on the balcony has Meghan looking WAY darker than I’ve ever seen her.

Did someone photoshop that shit??

They need photos with the queen.

R19, she’s not a working royal, so no.

They have failed at everything they've done and are crawling back for any scraps to help their relevance.

I can't imagine any modern day person interested in that shit anyway.

Who are the “Working Royals?”

OP, does your trailer sink on the port side when you plop your fat ass down on that loose toilet?

"Harry and Meghan to attend Queen's jubilee in hopes of salvaging failing brand."

They're afraid someone might push them off the balcony, when they can't have their own security.

Good riddance to the rotted pair. Let them drown in their nothingness.

I WILL NOT appear on a balcony ANYWAY with those racists and haters of superior NATURAL talents!

Have you told them, Harry? Have you told them, Harry? Have you told them, Harry? Have you told them, Harry? Have you told them, Harry? Have you told them, Harry? Have you told them, Harry? Have you told them, Harry? Have you told them, Harry? Have you told them, Harry? Have you told them, Harry? Have you told them, Harry? Have you told them, Harry? Have you told them, Harry? Have you told them, Harry? Have you told them, Harry? Have you told them, Harry? Have you told them, Harry? Have you told them, Harry? Have you told them, Harry? Have you told them, Harry? Have you told them, Harry? Have you told them, Harry? Have you told them, Harry?

You don't love me. You want me to die like your mother, don't you? You don't love me. You want me to die like your mother, don't you? You don't love me. You want me to die like your mother, don't you? You don't love me. You want me to die like your mother, don't you? DON'T YOU? DON'T YOU? DON'T YOU?

After getting dumped by Netflix The Megaloon is desperate! How are they going to pay Harry's polo bills??? Help, Granny, help!

^^^. I know its not really you Megs, but it did make me snicker cause it's so true.

Hahahahahaha let the plate throwing in California begin!

I think keeping Andrew, Harry and Meghan off the balcony is 100% down to Charles, William and royal advisors. It was initially reported the Queen wanted the whole family on the balcony but Andrew on the balcony could very well bring down the monarchy and Harry and Meghan are too controversial and unpopular in the UK too. So on the balcony will be the Queen, Charles, Camilla, William, Kate, Anne & her husband whose name I forget, Edward, and Sophie. Possibly the Cambridge children too.

They're only unpopular in the UK because the right wing tabloids - all of them in the UK - keep painting them as monsters. The frothing-at-the-mouth red-faced stories in the Daily Mail and elsewhere from the Royals watchers are really unbelievable and would get the author committed to a psychiatric facility if they were happening elsewhere but in the UK, where elderly Tory royalists lap it up with a spoon. And don't even get me started on Piers Morgan and his one-man crusade to destroy Meghan because she avoided him after learning he was "undesirable".

I hope the Queen overrides them and allows Andrew up there, then they will actually have something real to hyperventilate about.

R36 who never goes to Publix and has failed to notice in the checkout line all the US tabloids feature attacks on the Markles every week!

r37 the right-wing tabloids, because it is a right-wing fervor that has carried over to the US from the UK because Meghan is perceived as "woke", which the right hates with a fiery passion. But nice try.

You think the UK public doesnt like her due to the tabloids? You dont think spitting in their face after they paid for her million dollar wedding (she called the "spectacle"), accusing them of being racist, putting Kate down and trashing the family on Oprah had something to do with it?

Nobody likes a golddigger or an aging starlet.

You would think the duo would pick up a clue , ut alas they never will.

Wrong r36. HaM did it to themselves with the Oprah interview.

Omid Scobie will be fuming.

R36 *eye roll* That's not what happened. Ironically almost all those headlines in the Oprah interview were from American tabloids hence the reason that clip had to be removed from the UK broadcasts because the Daily Mail threatened to sue Harpo Productions. The public mood turned against Meghan and Harry when Meghan in Africa in front of starving and sexual abused children said no one asked her how she was feeling...then there was all the pontificating about the environment while taking private jets everywhere....then Meghan's expensive taste in close purchased on the taxpayers dime....then there was reports of Meghan being a terrible boss...then the Oprah interview in which almost all their claims were later disprove by the mainstream UK media etc.

Yea it's not the tabloids, it's the woke nonsense which we don't necessarily hate but can see it isn't genuine.

Then it spitting in the public's face with the 500k baby shower, courting celebs they've never met, neglecting duties in favour of celebrity, refusing to share details of Archie's birth, lying, constant victimhood, the Oprah interview, lying about us Bdits being racist when we welcomed her warmly,

This sums it up well.

What R26 said. None of those leeches works.

R38 - respectfully disagree. Not everything is a right wing attack. Meghan isnt woke either she is just an idiot and a try-hard. Her faux avocado toast yoga vegetarianism is a persona to try to make her appeal to a younger 20-something crowd, as most women 35+ arent really looking to an actress with no career, who married a rich pale guy as a role model.

American living in the UK and the idea that it was the so-called "right-wing tabloids" that pushed "poor" Meghan out is 100% BS. Sorry but hard cold truth, the UK is a far more open and tolerant society than America...yup I said it. The issue with Meghan was never her background, her career, nothing. It was the reality that overtime it became clear she was a fame hunger Hollywood hypocrite. That Oprah interview was an attack on the Queen no matter what BS they use to try and justify otherwise. The Queen is sacrosanct in the UK.

Is the Queen even alive to attend all this shit?

We need Monty Python to do a send-up of this nonsense. So the "working royals" who cut ribbons when wings of hospitals are dedicated are all fighting over who stands by whom at the fucking "trooping of the colours" (colours of what? Legos in the royal playroom?)

Very silly people.

Using an old christening picture of Archie is kind of pointedly ridiculous. Don’t any of the working royals have a phone at their house? Couldn’t they pick up the phone and ask H & M for a picture of Archie so they could use a more recent one? Just because someone is no longer a working royal does not mean they are not still your family or no longer exist. The royal family is really terrible at dealing with people they perceive as outsiders. If it was up to them, after Charles and Diana divorced, they were going to act like she no longer had any relation whatsoever to the family, even though she had two young kids with Charles. In any other family, there are exes and relatives who live far away. No one acts like somebody is no longer their relative because of a job or a location, even though they may not like the person. It’s childish.

They should have just acted like H & M were family members who went on to live elsewhere and do something else, not Martians. This is 99% of why these two spend all their time trying to stir up controversy. That’s how they stay relevant.

Yeah, I'm sure Meg would have sent a photo right away.

They have to go,isn't Netflix making them? They need to put some money in Netflix coffers to justify the money Netflix paid them. Will Netflix wind up with egg on their face? The U S is tired of their self indulgent antics, so doubt many will be watching.

Harry just wants to make sure that his nan is "protected" and "has the right people around her" on the balcony.

Do you think M will try to squeeze in a royal christening? Will they lie and claim they had a private christening with only the queen present?

I have been keeping up .. last I heard they were trying to sell Montecito. Any luck?

"Lilibet immediately bonded with the queen and became her favorite great grandchild. They discussed horses and corgis for hours and hours."

R52, good question.

My guess is: That’s the only photo they own the rights to use.

The only family who *might* have laid eyes on the kids is Eugenie. If she met the kids and was able to photograph them, I’m sure she was forbidden from sharing them.

I’m tempted to say that if the children are being so jealously guarded, they probable haven’t been on any zoom calls with the family at all. It’s possible the only images of the kids they’ve seen are the ones we have. Can you imagine?

"Oh fuck yes we're going. Let the world see how we and our children are marginalized and excluded. In fact, let's put out a statement. Yes, right now!"

But but you barely escaped the palace with your life, Megsy!

[quote] Ummmm disgusting. They should be on the balcony! They’re the faces of the Royal Family now.

That is exactly what they are NOT--they made that agreement with the Queen and Prince Charles [bold]explicitly[/bold] when they the United Kingdom.

But you knew that. You're clearly just trolling.

[quote]"Lilibet immediately bonded with the queen and became her favorite great grandchild. They discussed horses and corgis for hours and hours."

"Recollections may vary."

Netflix has to be tagging along in this trip in some capacity.

The queen is choosing politics over family. She's a loser.

Oh wow. Did they announce this after the queen banned them from the balcony?

They're gonna be sorry.

We need to go. It's the right move.

Because they cancelled your cartoon, Meg?

[quote] We need Monty Python to do a send-up of this nonsense. So the "working royals" who cut ribbons when wings of hospitals are dedicated are all fighting over who stands by whom at the fucking "trooping of the colours" (colours of what? Legos in the royal playroom?)

[quote] Very silly people.

Fucking hell…the arrogance of Americans who have no idea what they’re talking about never ceases to amaze me.

R65 The Queen is choosing The Monarchy over Family, not politics.

The main job of the working Royals is to ensure its survival, It's exactly the same as a CEO making the correct decisions to make sure a business continues to flourish.

R52. It’s not the royal family’s responsibility to update the photo. If Harry and Meghan don’t want current photos of the child publicised, it would be wrong for the royal family to publicise it. On the other hand, if Harry and Meghan are fine with current images being circulated, it’s the responsibility of Harry and Meghan to provide if. If Harry and Meghan don’t care enough to provide photos to his family that is not the royal family’s fault.

The Sussexes were always going to come to the Jubliee. This will they/won't they stuff was just drummed up by them and their PR to keep them in the headlines. In their recent books people like Tina Brown, Andrew Morton, Robert Lacey are all saying despite all the antics and damage they have caused, Harry and Meghan still want to be part-time working royals. The need that royal connection to stay relevant long term. Meghan's star is fading fast. Harry's not as quickly because he is the blood royal.

It was actually OUR request that we not be on the balcony. It's just too dangerous for us.

[quote]Who are the “Working Royals?”

We are!

The Working Royals - new band name - called it!

Only working Royals will take part of the traditional balcony line-up at this year’s Trooping the Colour, which will take place on Thursday 2nd June 2022.

A spokesman for Buckingham Palace said: “After careful consideration, The Queen has decided this year’s traditional Trooping the Colour balcony appearance on Thursday 2 June will be limited to Her Majesty and those members of the Royal Family who are currently undertaking official public duties on behalf of the Queen.”

On the balcony next to the Queen will be: The Prince of Wales and Duchess of Cornwall and the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and their children Prince George, Princess Charlotte and Prince Louis will all join her, as will the Earl and Countess of Wessex and their children Lady Louise Windsor and James, Viscount Severn.

Princess Anne will appear, along with her husband Admiral Sir Timothy Laurence nex to her Majesty’s cousins the Duke of Kent, Duke and Duchess of Gloucester and Princess Alexandra.

You're all a bunch of bitches. We know that Harry and Meghan will utilize this experience to inform, elevate, and inspire, and will leverage the power of storytelling to embrace our shared humanity and duty to truth through a compassionate lens.

They announced this an hour after the no balcony statement. They are pathetic and predictable.

I, for one, am RIVETED!

HMTQ:No balcony for H&M and PA Netflix: Whaaaaaaat?? H&M: We are delightful to attend the Jubilee alongside the children

That's too bad about the balcony. I was looking forward to watching Smeg push her children out of the way to get front and center.

"No, I mean what better setting for the kids to make their debut on the world stage? This is their rightful heritage!"

I'm hoping for lots of PR about how much Granny wanted them there and how delighted she was to meet her namesake and how much fun she had with Harry, combined with concerned-face visits to poor folks and animal shelters with the attendant trademark Archewell-speak. If Meghan can also throw in a fashion disaster, it'll be perfect.

The woman who destroyed his parents' marriage is on the balcony and Harry gets classified with Andrew?

The BRF are idiots.

The biggest idiots being Andrew and Harry.

R84. Diana will be on the balcony?

Yes. Remember that Haz and Meg conjured her ghost in California?

HRH Princess Michael, the only royal who matters, will NOT be appearing on the balcony to be stared at by the peasantry: she's still in mourning for her bullet riddled Russian toyboy.

I wonder if Gan Gan will let me wear one of her cool PEARL necklaces just for the lolz when I get to meet fucking aunty Meghan again.

Is this just Markle sending a wish through the media to the royals again or is it confirmed?

I've been wondering about that too, R90. Sounds like them trying to do some manifesting again.

R49, not sure much of that is true. The UK press was vicious to her. However, they were also vicious to Camilla and Kate, and for a long time---years. They both took it with good grace, toughing it out and carrying on. She whined and called it racist, when she never considered herself black until it was convenient to do so. Brits are as judgmental as Americans. They are especially tough on those who are not good sports, but they developed respect for both Kate and Camilla because of the way they behaved under pressure. Once Meghan started whining and then added more fuel to the flames with her antics of constant demands, poor treatment of staff and lying or exaggerating about others, the British public began to dislike her in large numbers. Of course, those who dislike the monarchy tend to like her as they can use her as one more excuse to get rid of it, but they don't like her for herself..

[The U S is tired of their self indulgent antics]

No one in the US pays attention to them except fraus who scour gossip mags in the checkout line.

In this case the right people won't be around TQ.

Can you order these to match an outfit? Asking for a friend.

The Harkles should just hover nearby in a hot air balloon.

R15 - What are you talking about????

R19 - NO!

R51 Yet another American, unashamed of their ignorance, commenting on a subject about which they know nothing.

Do they teach you this in school?

R96, time to pick up bow-hunting, I guess.

Harry himself will tie up that fucking line and crash the system, r100.

R101, you know, sis', it's called ARCHery for a reason.

[quote]Using an old christening picture of Archie is kind of pointedly ridiculous. Don’t any of the working royals have a phone at their house? Couldn’t they pick up the phone and ask H & M for a picture of Archie so they could use a more recent one?

I thought that was kind of sad too; maybe they could use one of those computer generated "this is what this kid would look like" images they used for kidnapped kids.

I don't presume to understand the machinations of the Harkles, but I read somewhere Harry stating that "security details had to be worked out" (or some such thing); I wonder if made that announcement was made with the intention (of stirring up publicity, of course) of holding a gun to Chuck & Will's head to have his demands met, threatening to make a scene, only to have them say (to quote Charlotte) "you're not coming." Knowing how he's persona non grata & not really one of "them" anymore, can Harry's fragile ego stand the glacial shoulder he's going to get?

Megham really injected life and drama to the stale Royals. She is a gift from America to the UK tabloids.

I don't know why, but this has been stuck in my head all day.

"But there are dreams that cannot be

And there are storms we cannot weather

I had a dream my life would be

So different from this hell I'm living

So different now from what it seemed

Now life has killed the dream

I dreamed"

R92- But those women never have shown disrespect and ingratitude to the public like the Markles did. The public showed such an outpouring of love, support, and of course paid for that ridiculous wedding only to have those ingrates spit in their face. I do not believe that ever will or should be forgiven. They showed their true colors and that can't be undone.

Charles: Pardon me, Mummy?

Elizabeth: Keep that balding rufus and his Moroccan wife away from me in future, please. Did you know she [italic]touched[/italic] me? In a most unpleasantly familiar way. But don't worry, dear, at 50% Acceptable you're still doing better than I have with our broods.

Charles (calculating the current tally and feeling the cut): Yes, Mummy. Of course. Yes. Thank you. (Bows and recedes.)

R86 For the win.

She is an adventuress!

Why did I look at Celebitchy?

The commentary is delusional

Adventuress, one of my favorite words.

The Markles have to be freaking out. They thought they were superstars. Now they're nothing but trashy celebrities chasing after a buck. Getting kicked off Netflix has to have opened the Megster's eyes to the fact she is nothing without a connection to the royal family.

Sorry R 109 . R11 for the win. 'Platinum Jubbly..Lovely Jubbly, or Wubbly Jubbly. Love it, you couldn't make this up.

Now the real ??? How much lipo, fillers, plastic tweaks, hair 'stensions can she get between now & the Jubbly? If she looks anything like she looked at Invictus she will just die. You know the Sun & especially the Mail will capture, every fat back, side cutlet, skinny leg & face bloat. She will be skewered in real time, in real photos, with loads of English snark. The images will live forever on line to be reposted again & again And Kate will look like the long legged sporty English rose she is on the balcony, in the carriages with the real alpha, not with whingeing, whiny, EDM taping balding Friar Tuck look alike.

Of side note: Meghan needs to pack a few umbrellas. Rotten vegetation will be raining. The English are polite but unforgiving once you slag them off. And boy oh boy she has slagged them off in any way she can.

Have them put that in my book, about the fucking balcony and all. FUCK!!

I think we’re going we’re going to have to call it the ‘Jubbly’ from here on in.

It’s cause she’s black OP

That must be someone's idea of hell. Stuck with all those people you stuck it to and not a shot at the photo ops.

I think somebody's gonna have last minute COVID exposure or the flu or had the wrong date in their calendar or missed the flight because of traffic.

They'll back out at the last moment. No way is Meghan going back to the UK. They'll claim they're sick or the kids are sick.

Our brand is mayhem!

As the kids say: AWKWARD.

Andrew is rightly kept in the background. Harry and Meghan created the situation they find themselves in, but the UK tabloids have whipped up the public to the point where their presence could inflame racist nutcases to actual violence.

At least the Queen got the message that it was an affront to the public when she had Andrew the Philanderer walk her to her seat in the Abbey.

Why should the Montecito couple be out on the balcony? That dimwitted prince has openly stated that he considers California "home." A prince of the United Kingdom saying that? Parliament should begin the process of taking away his title of Duke. He can remain by virtue of birth Prince Harry. And his wife will be known as Princess Harry.

I vote for having harry and meghan thrown off the balconey to hungry lions( cant forget the british symbology) below ! Now thats entertainment !

R122 The newspaper attacks on Meghan aren't because of her race, it's because she's a lying, narcissistic, self entitled, cunt.

Anyone who behaved in the way that she has would be hated with equal measure, no matter what the colour of their skin.

Wonder how Eugenie and the other cousins are feeling towards Harry now that they have lost what may be their last opportunity for a balcony spot due to his behavior? Andrew alone could have been cast aside. To ensure Harry was not up there, all the nonworking royals had to go to have a plausible rationale. Charles certainly won't have the lot of them on their when he is king, especially the Yorks.

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Now who would you think would feed a line like that? Someone in the House of York, maybe?

[quote]Will Princess Michael of Kent be on The Balcony?

NO.

R128 It looks dumb enough to have come from Sarah, Duchess of York who still has contact with several journalists.

Is it true the $u$$exe$ announced they were coming 18 minutes after the Palace announced there'd be no cry for them on the balcony? LOL.

Harry and Meghan are not popular at all in the UK.

So the Yorks and the Sussexes will be together. Perfect.

Better a dummy than a darky.

Remember your Grand-Uncle John, dear. And better they put themselves away than your having to do it.

This White (well sort of orange) woman gets worse UK press than Meghan, mainly for the same reasons, she is selfish, deluded and exploits people.

Race is not an issue in her (or Meghan's) case.

It is wrong to put Andrew in the same league with Harry and Meghan. He is a fucking pervert. A sexual predator and a possible Pedo. He has been banned for life. All Harry and Meghan did was drop out. They ought to be treated like Princess Anne's kids and Princess Margaret's. Not working Royals. Period. And there is no reason for Anne or Edward to be on the fucking balcony. If it is about the line of succession then Charles Camilla William and Catherine and their kids. Period. Last time Charles and the Palace courtiers tried this it looked pretty pitiful. That balcony looked empty. Just once more why can't they do it the way The Queen wants it? The way it was when she was calling the shots? She invited whomever she pleased including Kents, Gloucesters, etc. For her it was about the family as she defined it. Inclusive. Fuck it. See, here's the thing. William is the heir, Harry is the spare. As a blood Prince he is still the spare. But Harry was going to have to take a step back according to protocol. And show deference to William. Now that was always going to be a problem with or without Meghan or any other wife. Because it was always going to be a source of fiction for the two brothers.

R136 They didn't just 'step back' though, they gave the Oprah Interview and condemned members of the family for racism etc.. They're fucked, there is no way back from that.

Harry isn't the spare any longer, George, Charlotte and Louis are, Harry has been usurped by his Brothers Children.

The Kent's and The Gloucester's are still officially Working Royals.

R135 Katie Price is a disgrace. Multiple drink and drives, child neglect, general anti social behavior. Come on.

R138 I was just making a point that we don't specifically target people based on race in the UK, we have equal opportunity cuntness.

This is going to be great if they go! We will be treated to press leaks, and pap photos of "surprise visits" and "sweet nods" all over London. I expect noting less than an outright circus of desperate stunts that only Harry, and Meghan can bring.

They didn't decide to step back. They demanded their idiotic half in half out arrangement and were told no. They had a tantrum and fled. They've been embarrassing themselves publicly ever since.

darn, I was looking forward to seeing Lord Frederick Windsor, Zenouska Mowatt, Lady Helen Windsor, and Sienna Philips, the real stars of the royal family lol

I imagine all the greengrocers in London are laying in an extra supply of bananas.

Who is Sienna Philips, R142?

Black AND blue, I see, dear one. Ouch!

Hope you're loving that California weather.

See you soon, apparently. The gardens here at Kensington are beauteous, as usual.

Princess M.

I thought Meghan writing messages on bananas to give out to hookers was a joke, but it really happened. They must have been laughing their heads off. She truly is a condescending moron.

I'm looking forward to the back fat shots, rolls, bulges, fat oozing out the sides of her underarm area, sweat stains, hanging tags, bad hats, bad hair, merching bad clothes & chintzy baubles, bangles & beads, while Kate is wearing the good stuff. Harry frantically doing EDM, scowling, seeing his bald patch glistening in the sun, holes in his shoes, rumpled, poorly fitting clothes.

The family politely but pointedly ignoring them.

Merchie & Lilibucks dangled over balconies with blankets over their faces ala Michael Jackson in Berlin. Boos following them everywhere they go. Rotten eggs pelting their car. The subtle & not so subtle snark in all the press.

Good times for me, not so much for them. They are my favorite comedy show.

Don't rule out the children of Princess Margaret, they hold a different position as issue of The Queens Sister.

The children of the other 'Working Royals' might also be around.

Besides standing on the balcony for the flyover, what else will Harry and Meghan be missing out on? How will they sneak Netflix and their mics into Buck House?

Regarding outdated photos, in Tina Brown's book, it's actually Harry who is crazy about not having the children photographed. It's not just a Meghan grift (although it probably works in their favor when the time comes). Harry put his foot down when it comes to any public photos of the kids.

I wonder if the Sussexes will use this non-balcony opportunity to make public appearances at the Jubilee with cameras in tow, like they did for that random New York trip. This will give them the opportunity to show them in the streets, shaking hands and kissing babies. Meghan will seize a "People's Princess" moment.

Harry putting his foot down regarding the kids pictures makes sense as to why the pap pictures of Meghan, and Archie pop up when he's gone. I also think she uses it to push his "my family are hunted!!" buttons. It still would be nice to give the family a birthday picture to use for an official family birthday greeting. I wonder how they are going to handle Lilibet's birthday pictures when the time comes. I dont think they have any of her in the public domain.

You know, I am recalling when Harry and Meghan first went public and then how, after their engagement was announced they began making public appearances together and she even went out with The Queen. The couple was wildly popular and drew huge crowds. ...and that was a problem. It was a problem for the palace (courtiers) and it was a problem for William, the heir apparent. The Palace was scheduling and planning the roll out of William and Catherine in more prominent roles and Harry's popularity and Meghan's ease were upsetting the Plan. Harry lacked the emotional maturity to dial it back, and Meghan who didn't get why he had to be second, why he had to step back, thought the custom, traditions and protocols were bullshit and unfair to Harry...and herself. Because she loved being popular. When she was schooled on how it has to be, I think that's when she lost her enthusiasm for the notion of being a Duchess. Nobody puts Baby in a corner.

It wasn’t William whio wanted half in/half out.

R152 William has never been the heir apparent. His father is.

People were curious about H&M, it would have been the same no matter who he married. That doesn't translate to popularity. No one was jealous of them. Just stop.

They were too jealous. They were jealous, and rude, and mean, and they were backstabbers who smiled in you face and were SO polite and snotty. And they were RUDE. I said that. And no one cared. No one asked whether either one of us were OK and the tabloids shat all over us constantly because no one wanted to talk about Andrew. And I noticed how he looked at me as if he were trying to undress me, and he was gross and smelled. And he had bad breath. I was practically suicidal and poor Harry was SO terribly worried and frightened, he said, "We're getting out of here!" and that's why we were forced to leave, pushed out really. It was horrible. Just horrible.

Hell yes. I would kill and die to have legs like Meg.

My sister's got bird legs like Meghan. She looks like an apple on two toothpicks.

What does Meg look like?

R151, I'm afraid you're using reason to solve the question. That will never do where they're concerned.

R142 Lol, forget Zenouska, I wonder what her mother has been up to? She was a wild child in her day.

With Freddie Windsor, we could have had Big Suze up there too. Missed opportunity. Wouldn’t have minded Princess Michael either.

This will always be funny.

R162, that is one of my favorite moments.

The Princess Anne Body Block. -

The Princess Royal to the Duchess of Sussex... "Oh, no you don't, bitch"

You don't mess with Princess Anne, she'll cut a bitch!

Sad. But considering dear Meghan's rather large uptick in weight, there would hardly be room for her on the balcony, much less in group photos.

I really don't think they will attend. Buy if they do, you can bet your ass she will plastic surgery and diet herself silly.

R136. You are correct that it is wrong to put Andrew in the same category as Harry and Meghan Whatever vileness and corruption Andrew has exhibited in his private life, Harry and Meghan’s public behaviour is far worse. Andrew at least never issued a public proclamation asserting his right to unlimited personal enrichment and corruption merely because of his birth. He also never asserted his right to political influence because he was of a higher birth than the rest of the UK In addition he never insulted the British public in a public forum nor did ask publicly that the British public help fund his corruption and political interference. That is why it is important that the Queen be careful about embracing Harry and Meghan publicly. The UK is a democracy. If the Queen endorsed Harry’s behaviour it would call into question the Queen’s commitment to democratic principles.

Andrew is a creep and corrupt in private and therefore has no business on the balcony. Obviously, there is no evidence he is a pedophile but you wanted to say it anyway.

it’s funny but Andrew looks more Alpha on the balcony in his uniform and medals than Charles or William.

Even if a 17-year-old doesn't count as a child, weren't Epstein and Ghislaine basically trafficking in quite young women, or whatever you call it, and providing them for wealthy clients who were surely paying top dollar?

Whether it's technically pedophilia, to be so indiscreet as to have his photo with such a young prostitute (along with the famous pimps) plastered all over the Internet - it's appalling "PR" for the BRF, isn't it?

But yes, R168, he was the best looking royal child - which is probably why he's the most narcissistic (not that Charles isn't, but still...)

R165, there may be structural considerations, too, given all the necessary repairs being done to the palace. One crack gives way under excess weight and the monarchy would literally be plunged into a succession crisis - with Andrew safely comfort eating in The Chinese Room.

No, Thomasina can't come. The risk is too great.

It is a shame they are coming. There will be so much focus on searching for signs of family drama and the photo of Kate and Harry's first wife interacting.

Imagine the conversations in private... four quick safe ones to avoid landing in her tell-all:

Oh, here's Meghan. How are you?

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How was your journey?

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Goodness, can you believe the weather for the Jubliee?

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Gosh, there's Cousin Sarah. Excuse me I haven't said hello to her yet. Lovely to see you.

R169. I’m not saying having sex with a 17-year-old is admirable but it is not in any way pedophilia. There’s no need to use a term completely incorrectly just in order to condemn the behaviour. In addition, there is a moral difference. Having sex with a 17-year-old is not as blameworthy as sleeping with a seven-tear-old.

R152, you’re saying that the Palace sabotaged Harry and Meghan because they were too popular?

Surely no one in that palace would dare try to physically prevent Harry and that woman from walking out onto the balcony. No one but the family would dare. So what if the Harkle-Markles just decide to dress up and go out there? Will we be treated to the sight of the old woman beating them back with her brolly? "No! No! We forbid it!!"

I would hope they WOULD have security people to stop Harry and Meghan from prancing out on the balcony when they were not invited and it's been announced to the world that for that particular event, it's only for specific people and the queen and her advisors have clearly made that decision.

At least in Florida, what Andrew did was statutory rape:

The Florida Age of Consent is 18 years old. In the United States, the age of consent is the minimum age at which an individual is considered legally old enough to consent to participation in sexual activity.

[quote] ...to be so indiscreet as to have his photo with such a young prostitute

A photo that was used worldwide as "proof" of the accuser's claim.

A photo that the "victim" now claims she has "lost". Thus preventing anyone examining it for evidence of photo shopping.

"Lost"??

Really??

Funny how that "proof" doesn't seem to exist.

Not a fan of PA, but I never believed the "accuser". And now the "lost" photo?

Right. Sure. Of course.

Geez R174 the BRF have never undertaken security measures, ever, and would appreciate you pointing it out.

At least in the UK they're not planning to legislate to carry firearms without a permit or required safety training. See how that works?

R173, not necessarily. I feel like the Palace was uncomfortable with the enthusiasm of the crowds. The Palace likes to feel like everything is under control and in their eyes it wasn't. They had this aging Queen and he consort. They had an aging and lackluster Heir apparent in the Prince of Wales and his wife. William as Charles' heir, was being groomed, and had reached an age where it was time for him to step up his game, and begin to take his duties seriously. There was an entire plan around William and Catherine. Even a schedule for how things needed to go over the next 6-12 months or WTF ever.

It's as if there is this glass of water on the table. Nice glass of water, and then someone comes along and puts an alka seltzer tablet into the glass of water and it starts to fizzle and bubble. Hay was the alka seltzer...so to speak. Harry was always the family rock star. And honestly if you look at any truly sensible documentary, he was very much like The Queen's Uncle David. When Edward the 8th was a young prince, fought in WW I and was wildly popular it was well received. But it was also concerning. Because there was a certain distance and formality he lacked for that time.

In the case of Charles' sons, the Palace created it's own monster. They enjoyed the fact that both boys were popular as the became young men. They even turned a blind eye to Harry's messes. But as they got older, it was time to get serious. And the blueprint was always focused on William. They never learn from past disasters. Harry and William both hoped they could continue to do things together. That whole mental health initiative that William, Catherine and Harry worked on together was the moment when it all came to a head. The threesome was unacceptable. The Palace said no. There is only one. The second son must step back. William takes precedence. The households were separated. ( Nothing personal. This is how it is done. With Charles, with Edward the 8th before him and so on.)

And Harry was at loose ends. Because even as Harry developed his own projects and became patron for various causes on his own, there was a feeling that he still overshadowed William. Later, the Palace was concerned Harry and Meghan would overshadow William and Catherine. Add to that that Meghan was outspoken and didn't see why she couldn't express her opinions about all kinds of political and social issues. That was a serious point of concern for the Palace. They asked the Sussexes to step back, dial it down. It was William and Catherine's "time." But Meghan didn't "get" that. And it played right in to Harry's insecurities.

I am not "blaming" the Palace except in the sense that they never learn from past history and are always determined to assert the custom and traditions and believe themselves custodians and protectors of the Crown. At the end of the day, it was the Palace that determined that the Duke of Windsor was to be the model for how to handle Meghan and Harry wanting to step back.. In a way they goaded Harry and since he has always been emotionally volatile, he reacted. I find it all very unfortunate. After all, the Duke of Windsor and his wife were fucking traitors. They were conspiring with the enemy while the country was at war. And a lot of the measures the palace took towards them were with that in mind at the time.

The Duke of Windsor wasn't the model they chose though, he was provided with an income in order to keep him on a short leash.

Harry and Meghan didn't need to leave the UK, they could have stepped back and received a reasonable allowance from Prince Charles, maybe done a few commercial projects that didn't detract from the dignity of The Monarchy. Truth is their greed will be their undoing.

R180, some of that isn't supported by reporting , though. We all know that Harry and Meghan didn't want to "step back." They wanted to be "half in and half out." That's what they said. They wanted to both appear at royal functions and monetize their royal connections. There's no reason why their demand to do that should have been met. I'm aware that other royals use their titles for financial gain, but it's not bluntly announced on the internet as a life goal. And there's no evidence that "the palace" goaded them into doing anything rash. The Sussexes were offered various options for living their lives (including retreating to one of Charles's country properties); nothing seemed to work. They did not even make a formal presentation to Charles about what they wanted, even though he asked them to do so.

R180, thanks for the thorough and rational comment.

The princes were heartthrobs back in the day. I think that Harry benefited from a robust and carefully-controlled PR campaign. I saw him as the fun one (stuffy serious William as the foil). He had a whole image created for him by the pros.

I disagree that they goaded him. I think they just stood aside and let him fail on his own two feet.

Lady Sarah and her children won't be on the balcony, either, and neither will her brother and his kids. There is a published list on the DM of who will be on it and who won't, that comes straight from the Palace. So why keep flogging the dead horse? Wales, Cambridges (including the kids), Wessexes (including their two kids), Duke and Duchess of Kent, Duke and Duchess of Gloucester, Princess Alexandra, Princess Anne and her husband.

What would the point be of dragging them all out again for a second balcony appearance three days after the Trooping the Colour? To get the rest of the people that no one gives a flying fuck about out there, and if that includes the Sussexes it has to include Andrew and Bea and Euge, and risk exactly the same booing they didn't want to risk three days earlier?!

They'd undercut the effectiveness of the Trooping the Colour appearance, which is to focus public attention on the Queen, her ending reign, and the future reigns of Charles and William, and the people actively supporting the monarchy.

It sounds mental.

That was a funny GIF with Anne (in military uniform) getting in front of Meghan on the balcony. Don't they have that all planned out in advance? Who will stand where.

Prince Michael of Kent will be there but not his wife, The Princess Michael. She's still in mourning for her German boytoy who died a few weeks ago.

No r180. HaM had been plotting their escape from around the time of their marriage. This is proven by their public registrations.

The Duke of Kent will be there but not Prince Michael.

How is it disgusting? They're not royals any more? Why should they be on the balcony after cunting the RF off?

"IT can never happen again"

It has happened already, yer maj @r190.

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[quote]The Duke of Windsor wasn't the model they chose though, he was provided with an income in order to keep him on a short leash.

Maybe that will be the model, though, when the $u$$exe$ run out of options. Their marketability is crashing... there's only so many times they can whine for dollars... maybe the way to shut them down is let them run their mouths until there's nothing left to say and then offer them an allowance to live in comfortable total silence. Because not so long from now there will be nothing left for them via their own devices. They're dreamers, not doers. Look at the track record.

Nothing will ever be "comfortable" for the Sussexes. They will always expect MORE.

Meghan thought she'd live the life of a billionaire like Oprah if she moved to California. She thought she'd be inundated with offers to star opposite Leo in A list movies. She must be furious.

Aside from the balcony appearance there will be many group photos of the entire family. H&M and and kids wouldn’t miss being part of that.

R174 They will be nowhere near BP that day. What did you think, that they'd be hovering just behind the balcony doors?! They won't be THERE at all.

R196 I think those will be seriously cut back this time due to the Queen's frailty and mobility problems. There are going to be "many" group family activities involving the Queen. It's going to be, for her, the Trooping the Colour and the service in St Paul's. They may take one huge family picture for the record, and I would expect the Sussexes to be included in that.

But it's not going to be the way it was at the Diamond Jubilee. The others will spread out and attend the concert, beacon lighting's, maybe head to some large street parties . . . But they're not foung to be dragging the Sussexes with M them. I think one giant party is being planned, butbthat will be private and I doubt photogs will be allowed. Even if the Sussexes go to that, they wont find themselves I grinning photos with Willism, Kate, Anne, Charles, and the Queen.

My guess is, the service in St Paul's and if they're lucky, a part in the family photo, maybe also at the concert, just one amongst others

And Harry is due back in Santa Barbara on 3 June for the last leg of the polo challenge.

As with the tiara, they'll get what the Queen gives them.

[quote]That was a serious point of concern for the Palace. They asked the Sussexes to step back, dial it down.

I don't even think I've heard the Sussexes say this - that they were specifically asked to step back/dial it down.

Appreciate the thoughtful comment, though. Myself, I would put Andrew up as the obvious direct comparison to Harry. Not 2022 Andrew but 80s Andrew, dashing playboy military hero younger brother of the future King. In hindsight we see that it was all image-making and PR and that Andrew has likely always been the zero self-awareness prat that he is, but at the time he seems to have been seen pretty much exactly the same as Harry was seen up until a few years ago. The tension between heir and spare is very similar as well, with one unable to see how their second place in the birth order still puts them above 99.99999% of other humans.

Seeing as this is not a family occasion, but a state one, how do the clueless figure there will be "many group photos?

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Harry is going to have to get his tits out to start bringing in money. If they get dropped by Netflix, I'd be curious to see what platform wants to roll the dice with them.

They'll come up with some excuse at the last minute and not go. They'll release a pic of their rugrat named after the Queen to take attention away from some event. I would be interested to see if they show her full-face or if she is cross-eyed like Archie.

R203 - Not a chance. This is either their last chance to make bank on their royal connections while they have a shred of appeal for giants like Netflix, or their hoped for opening to ease themselves back in. Either way, they can't afford NOT to go. The PR look would be so bad it would make the Oprah backlash look tame.

The only way they don't go is if the Queen doesn't make it to 2 June. Then Charles takes over and William steps up with his hand on Charles' shoulder and his mouth in Charles' ear. As Harry was still throwing shade at Charles after the IGs, Charles, expecting Camilla to be dragged in Harry's memoir? William, still livid at how they trashed him and his wife? I don't think so.

The Queen's and a link with her documented by this invite and a couple of photos, be they private or public, with Lili and Archie, is all the Sussexes have left of their royal glitter.

Had it been up to William, the Sussexes wouldn't so much have gotten off the tarmac at Heathrow.

It's now or never. Only the Queen's death will stop them from getting on that plane with those kids and showing up. And they will be careful to stay away from large public events where booing could erupt. They NEED those photos of the Queen holding Lili with Archie next to her for posterity.

Yessir, they need them BAD.

Uh, r186? That happened 10 years ago.

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r206 Totally agree.There is no way that Netflix have not realised that their contract with these two was a huge mistake .They bought the self generated hype instead of being savvy.

I'm betting Meghan and Harry want to make peace, even to the degree Harry goes back to being a working Royal going home from time to time for extended stays. Eventually this will put a stain on their marriage and Megs files for divorce. Betcha. She will want to ty to be on good terms with Charles and William and Catherine...because they hold the purse stings and her children will be like poker chips to play at the ight time. She and Harry will share joint custody, and she will restart her acting career and she will have a career because she won't have to live up to her social reformer image, she can just be her Hollywood self only moreso. (sarcasm.)

r189 Exactly. It is not disgusting but a natural consequence of their behaviour in the past 2 and a bit years.

The bottom line is they thought their popularity was so great that it was independent of the monarchy, they aimed to become mega rich and part of how they tried to achieve that was by throwing people in his and her family under the bus.That plan is clearly failing.They are millionaires who want to live like billionaires and cant afford too.Only now that the signs are their big hopes and dreams for Megxit and guaranteed riches wont come off do they now want back in in some way.But the truth is they are not very nice people who were prepared to throw both of their families under the pass on the road to becoming mega rich permanent a listers. They do not deserve to be trusted and certainly do not deserve a place on the balcony.

Not being on the balcony won't bother Harry a bit. He wanted out of the royal BS.

r210 No he didnt he asked for a half in half out arrangement.I know there is a push to forget that inconvient fact but they did.If they want out why are they keeping royal titles??

[quote] Not being on the balcony won't bother Harry a bit. He wanted out of the royal BS.

Actually, he didn’t. He specifically said that he wanted ti soend half the year being royal and the other half making money in the States. He was told “no”.

An inconvenient fact that people like you continually ignore. He was desperate to remain royal, it’s just that the £2m a year he was given wasn’t enough for him and his cunt wife.

You bitches are all ignoring the REAL news here, which is that DL fave Princess Alexandra will be on the balcony!

The Netflix article said they did not understand why they would give an explosive interview with Oprah to CBS vs. Netflix. If that interview aired on Netflix, they would have made their money on the H&M. It is said in the article, which confirms BI that I have read that M&H earnings are "inflated", The BI I had read was that they inflated figures to the press to seem more bankable (a lot of people like the Kardashians do this - inflated billionaires).

From a source at Netflix:

[quote] 'Harry and Meghan's slate [of projects] could be in jeopardy as they have announced plans to make shows that are educational and inspiring, rather than sexy and sensational,' the industry source said.

r213 I love Princess Alexandra! It was me who started The Divine Princess Alexandra thread several years ago!

Now this will be a 2 bucket saga. As in 1 bucket of salty greasy popcorn won't be enough. How can the Ego of Meghan show up. I still say she left Invictus because of the ghastly photos she was unable to control. Imagine the shots the English press she has skewered & sued get. Unless she get a full body transplant hair included she will be prime fodder for the evil cameras clicking away. England is a little place, nowhere to hide for sure, once the paps know they are on the Island.

The latest shot of Kate in that green dress at the fashion thing is like salt in a wound. No fat back there, Meghan

The British press is 'Merry go round' of the same people working for different newspapers/broadcasting outlets.

If you are stupid enough to annoy one of them they will all eventually become your enemy. Especially if you have managed to make the establishment 'fucked off' at you in the process.

Harry and his hag are justifiably 'fair game' now.

R198 I’m picturing the Queen seated securely on a chair in the center as various family groups - kids only, grandchildren, wider family, all the royal cousins Kents, Gloucesters, shuffle in and out of the frame. This is a historic moment that the BRF has captured for all previous reigns, so I’d be surprised if she isn’t up for this. Still, the palace really seems to be managing expectations around her likely appearances.

Will Harry finally get a proper haircut, groom the back of his neck and beard for the Jubbly??

There aren't lots of posed photo's for the earlier Jubilee's, maybe 6/7 including the one with other Monarchs.

I bet they replicate this painting of the extended royal family.

Hay is going to get more difficult for Meghan to manage. He is goin to resent her over time. Blame her for bad advice. They will divorce. I give it 7 years max

I think they're stuck with each other. The only way there'll be a divorce is if Meghan finds somebody else but, being a narcissist, her opinion of what kind of big fish she can land doesn't line up with reality. Maybe she'll divorce him, delusionally expecting there'll be a rush of interested, eligible suitors.

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Hahahaaaa I hope Netflix gets no good footage and cancels those bums.

As to H&M's half-in, half-out demand--maybe the half-in part came more from Meghan? It's often been reported that, pre-Meghan, Harry wanted all out, but was then convinced or decided to stay in. Things like the upset over Archie's title or the asserting on their Instagram that Harry would always be royal seemed to come from Meghan.

Looking forward to their possible attendance at the jubilee church service. Maybe Meghan is now being fitted for another Dynasty get-up like that green number she wore for their last church outing with the family.

[quote] Maybe Meghan is now being fitted for another Dynasty get-up like that green number she wore

The BRF should have a dress code for public events for family members . If you are not wearing the right attire (including colors), your limo gets lost on the way to the event.

R209, I agree they thought their popularity was independent of the monarchy but throwing the BRF under the bus was not their initial plan. That happened because none of their vague hand-wavey talk about their foundation’s goals did not get any traction with the public. Instead of joining an established cause, they needed to be in charge. They weren’t successful at fundraising though and there was too much publicity about their mansion. People were only interested in them as ex-royals. So they cashed in on that.

Remember when the rumors were that they would live in Africa? I wonder if Harry ever thinks about that.

^ oops double negative there “got any traction”

Only power bottoms use the word "cunt".

[quote]There is no way that Netflix have not realised that their contract with these two was a huge mistake

The timing was very bad; they were throwing a lot of money not just at the Harkles, but also the Obamas while raising rates & cutting down on sharing login/PWs. I love Michelle Obama to death, but there are only so many do-gooder documentaries one can watch.

Video for Netflix during the Jubilee is an interesting angle; after Harry's maneuverings at his grandfather's funeral (to get in a shot behind William in the funeral procession), surely they know that there isn't any trick he won't pull or stunt he won't stoop to to get what he needs to keep his deals going. Probably the only events they'll be allowed in to are the very public/well chronicled events, thereby taking anyway from any "exclusive" angle.

I'm still not entirely convinced they'll show up because I'm guessing that they'll be on a *very* short leash by the BRF & are completely unwelcome by the British public.

Whatever their popularity was, their popularity is no longer what it was.

The spin the Harkle PR machine is putting out now is that "Harry and Meghan don't care about the balcony, they're only going for a family reunion.". (Express)

Which is typical of the sort of transparent You're Sacked/No, We quit shit their PR too often reeks of.

They were invited to the Obama birthday bash, the Met Gala, the Oscar's . . . But the decided not to go.

There is no one in the Known Universe who doesn't believe that Meghan and Harry would have sold what was left of their souls to get onto that balcony with the kids.

If they're lucky, they'll get into one last huge family photo that the Queen might want given her now tenuous hold on life. Suitably lost and in a side/row amongst Yorks Tindalls Phillips Wessexes and well behind the Cambridges who will be front and centre.

That and appearance at the service in St Paul's and maybe the huge concert are their best likelihood.

They shouldn't have made so obvious how untrustworthy they are so early in the game.

And they will show up, and they aren't getting divorced any time soon. They will likely head home after the service, a couple of private meetings with the family.

Why would Netflix pressure them for footage of the palaces and BRF? It’s a documentary about the Invictus games. That snoozefest (IMO, sorry) should be in the can already. Was there a collaboration on some other, undisclosed project about The Family?

I don’t really care about his family much; I’m a little more interested in Doria and the cult Meghan was raised amidst before Thomas got her.

They quit in January 2020, just as BLM really started to blow up. My guess is, they got carried away and thought by doing the Oprah interview they would ride that wave. Problem is, they did terrible damage to their family and their own brand, and now the winds are shifting. Now what? Dummies.

Marry in haste, repent at leisure. And the sentiment applies to all they’ve done since.

Who you marry is make or break.

Meghan played this completely wrong.

1- she should have stayed in the Royal family, that’s akin to winning the lottery for a D-list American actress. Attention just by doing a few ribbon cuttings a year. Endless money from her FIL/tax payers.

2- if she was going to turn on them, she should’ve waited to get more access and thus more dirt. As it stands they really don’t have much left and we’re cut off. She played her hand way too early.

3- she is beyond pretentious. The statements these two release are hysterical with their prose.

Meghan is smarter than Harry, but she totally misjudged the situation. Their causes, them.. it’s all boring. She’s operating under the old celebrity model. That’s dead. Even Diana wouldn’t have had the same international level of attention in today’s world as she did when she was alive.

r237 Precisely. I am firmly convinced that Meghan is stuck in the 1990s with the Diana obsession and complying and the Oprah Winfrey interview being indicators of this I live the 1990s but I understand how much the world has changed!The conditions were very specific to the era.

r238 Love not live the 1990s ! But r237 is right that model of celebrity life and showbiz has died and in some ways has been exposed . We have seen too many of the inner workings of all that nonsense.

The "no camera" rules are going to make for some exciting undercurrents to all of this Jubilee business. The Harkles are going to get "pushed around" and restricted enough so that they'll have fodder to sob and whine about for a few good years. (If anyone will listen to them by that point, which is seeming increasingly unlikely.) I'm sure Meg's glorious "outfits" will be equipped with all kinds of hidden lenses and be wired for sound. She'll have a complete film of the whole business.

Maybe Meghan can pop in to view some Tennis?

I still think they'll pull out at the last minute - test positive for COVID or claim they have. What they want is a photo of their little cross-eyed offspring with the Queen but any photo taken, will be taken by Buck House and they can't sell it for Big Bucks to People.

WHAT MEGHAN WANTS, MEGHAN GETS.

Watch.

R123 she would be princess henry.

I have a good friend who’s mom just died. I’ve know both for a few decades and witnessed the mom treating her daughter like crap when she was a teen. The mom let everyone know that she favored her son.

Anyway, there was a lot of drama and currying favor over the years. When the mom died, she pulled a Joan Crawford, leaving everything to her son. And she wrote her own obituary that lambasted the daughter.

It was wild!

My pointy in telling this is that some things can never heal. “They are beloved members of the family” is complete bullshit. When you’re dealing with family members with deep personality disorders—like Meghan and my friend’s mom—the only winning strategy is to keep them at arms length, never trust them and expect nothing but bad behavior.

M/H will never be part of that family again. I sure as hell wouldn’t talk to my brother again if he and his wife went on Oprah and tore into me and my wife.

M/H have made their bed. Quite telling that none of the Hollywood A list has anything to do with them.

[quote]Meghan is smarter than Harry, but she totally misjudged the situation.

Fairly certain my ficus tree is smarter than Harry.

R241, hmm, what for? For flashing her snatch to Serena's husband again?

Last week, Variety’s Power of Women event in Hollywood, lots of star power. No Megs.

"Beloved members of the family" is always accompanied in a public smack down from the Queen. I believe this exact phrase was included in the iconic "recollections may vary" statement (may every DLer please do their best to keep this wonderful phrase alive).

I see Harry and Meghan going, taking the cameras, going to BRF events, but also creating Sussex events independent of the Royal Family, out in the street, getting their own footage, "Look at the stuffy BRF sequestered on their balcony, while Harry and Meghan are just regular royal folks out with the people".

Meghan also doesn't seem to get that Diana put in 10 years of boring ribbon cutting ceremonies before she divorced and became the global icon she was prior to her death and she stayed very loyal to her patronages. Diana put in the work. For someone so studious of Diana, this is the plan of attack. Become loved first and then break away.

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I was just looking at photos and Meghan's face was so much thinner with stronger features when she was Royal/pre-Royal. She must have had to diet her ass off. Doria looks fabulous for her age, as many women do who don't raise children. She did not get Doria's trim, muscular body. I do think Doria is a gorgeous woman who looked better than Meghan in her few royal outfits.

Doria is attractive. But gorgeous? No.

I think MM is attractive but she’s had too many procedures. They have changed her face.

Wow, R250!

That's some picture!

Yikes.

R250 - that photo kills me. What was she scowling at? And why? If youre just sitting watching an event you generally have a neutral expression, not a look like you want to go choke a bitch.

How often do black women who straighten their hair have to straighten it? Doesn't it dry their hair out and turn it into hay?

Will the Sussexes be subject to cavity searches for secret recording devices? I certainly hope so!

R249 - The problem with Harry and Meghan out in the street with regular people, is that regular people in the UK detest them. They'd really have to stage something with stringent boundaries so that none of those "regular people" could get the boot in. It will be completely artificial and it will show.

At best, they may check in with their remaining personal and nonroyal patronages (her, the Hub Kitchen and Smartworks and maybe a school with lots of black faces); him, Sentebale and Travelyst), and they will do so making sure to get in and out without attracting unpleasant comment, but with photo ops from inside.

But the fact is, they really have to head back to America by the end of 3 June. My guess is that they'll get in and out as swiftly as they can. What they really need are photos of the Queen and Charles with the two kids. Then, an appearance at St Paul's, and why hang around when the polo ponies are calling?

Doria's weird looking, not attractive. Meghan is surprisingly good-looking given her two ugly parents.

The idea of BRF controlled security allowing Sussex spontaneous street theater amidst the Jubbly is ridiculous fanfic, as is the likelihood of them dropping into "patronages" on a Bank Holiday.

R257, I don’t live in the UK, but I think they’d be warmly welcomed. I’ve seen those crowds gather for the Royals and they’re pretty much like sheep. I think their biggest misgivings about going back is the reception they’ll get from the rest of the family. I imagine it’ll be icy and awkward, except from the Yorks.

R260 I don't agree, as a Brit in London many people were pissed at what the see as Harry's treachery and lies and their fame-whoring and hypocrisy.

R258 - You have to remember how much she had done to get to that place. Straightened hair, rhinoplasty, chiclet teeth . . .

Meghan au natural.

Many Brits take great pride in how un racist they are. Check out Dame Shirley Bassey, Tiger Bay Cardiff for one example. The insulted not nust the BRF, but the people as well, who welcomed her withsuch enthuiasm & warmth.

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Trying another link. Meghan Markle au natural.

Wow she sure was a minger!

Markle has had plastic surgery (and work on her teeth) but not that much, by Hollywood standards.

Sometimes I wonder if the spouses of people who have altered their appearance with cosmetic surgery realize that the kids are going to pick up the unaltered looks in their genes. When they finally realize it, all they can do is not publish any photos of the resulting freaks as they get older.

R268, a lot of times, the spouses are not so great-looking, themselves. Harry is looking worse and worse as time passes.

to the person who asked about WOC’s hair suffering from straightening treatments, yes it does. That’s why in the haircare aisle the black hair product section is so full of deep conditioning products and oils. Besides these hair products for restoring moisture they also try to avoid too much shampooing. It’s an endless cycle and ultimately healthier for women just to wear it natural, or braid it and wear a wig over it.

Even at her thinnest she still didn't have a waist.

So two rounds of rhinoplasty, jaw implant/unsuccessful underbite correction, a mountain of botox/filler, cheek implants/buccal fat reduction, and 6 or 7 dental devices, ongoing. Resulting in R250, shy of 40yo

R271 - Those were her best days. Look, not every woman who puts on a swimsuit like that has perfect hour-glass figure. She never had a great body, but she had a good enough one when slim. Two pregnancies and encroaching middle-age really finished her off, physically.

She looked her best at peak "Suits". The nose job helped, the straight hair helped, the dental work helped - but those are common practices in show biz. She looked fine, then.

It's now, when she looks like she's drowning in bronzer, heavy pancake makeup, heavy mascara, and hair that often looks coarse and badly trimmed, that she looks so artificial.

Something happened to her when she married Harry. I'm not sure what, but it was as if she lost all sense of what worked and what didn't.

Her makeup is much heavier these days - it's as if she and Kate, who used to wear much too heavy eye makeup, switched places. Kate a few years ago lightened up the eye makeup and now wears a much lighter, more natural look for daytime; Meghan's eye makeup has gotten so heavy it looks as if it must be hard to keep her eyes open. There are photos of her closeup with eyelash glue globs post-royal marriage.

I don't know what happened. It's as if the mirror turned inside out or something.

The one good thing the weight gain did for her, was putting some meat on those bird legs.

With all her money, she should get eyelash extensions.

It won't happen, but I would love for the Harkles to show up at the church and be stopped at the doors with a "sorry, you're not on the list."

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Markle looked good on Suits because she was being dressed, made up, styled, lit, and directed by professionals whose job it was to make the stars look good. Off that set when she’s her own boss, and thinks she knows best, is where she got herself in trouble. It started with the engagement photo op with the too-big shoes, the Hollywood glamour engagement photo, the disastrous shit-colored hat and accessories she wore as a guest of the RF to their Easter service, right to her wedding with the dress that didn’t fit and her d*ngling t*ndrils.

I'm sure lilibucks has all the worst features of both of them and that is why we haven't seen her yet. It was probably initially for the payday that never came, but I'm wondering now if we will ever see her until she's old enough for surgery.

I'm guessing Markle is plain rude to makeup artists, hairstylists, wardrobe stylists, etc. That's why she sometimes looks janky, clothes ill-fitting. Same with Megan McCain. Her makeup and hairstyles on The View looked like someone was playing jokes on her.

Legal setback for Harry in his latest case against the Daily Mail. The judge has refused Harry's legal team's assertion that serious harm was done. The judge is now giving the Daily Mail to make its case and it will go to a preliminary issues trial in June.

I know I'm in the minority, but I like Harry's tits-out photos. And I otherwise dislike the Sussexes on principal (family treachery and all that).

R281 He's having a great couple of weeks, eh? The hearing is 7 June. I suppose he doesn't have to be there, his legal team can handle it. He wouldn't want to miss the polo.

Any legal minds want to weigh in on whether Harry has a decent case here?

does polo in California the same cache as it does when played in The UK? I’m thinking not.

Nooo.

The only Polo I know is the lounge at the Beverly Hills Hotel.

R284, I suppose it does, for a very small group of people who think they’re special. I know lots of people who do rich-people things, who play rich people sports, but not one who plays polo. Golf at the Maidstone, tennis at Piping Rock, not a single polo player.

Harry best game is Stupid as in Play Stupid Games, win stupid Prizes.

[Quote] I'm guessing Markle is plain rude to makeup artists, hairstylists, wardrobe stylists, etc. That's why she sometimes looks janky, clothes ill-fitting.

I recall reading comments on articles a while back and this was the reason as to why she looked like shit on her wedding day. She kept changing her mind regarding the style of dress until the last minute, hence why it was so poorly fitted. She did the same on the wedding day and they had to do her hair and makeup several times. All that planning and the best they could do on her wedding day was pull her hair back into a bun with strands flying all over the place.

Now, the Netflix thing about the MegVictus games is something I wonder about. It's an accepted detail that it's always all about her. So, the Netflix home moobee is going to feature 95% Mrs Pricey Princey Polo Pony, and 5% The Other Thing That Happened in the Hague. You know, wirth those people in wheelchairs. Now, back to her...

My brother in law plays polo in the US only for the optics of it. They have their little tournaments around the South, and East Coast. I've been to a few of his games, and it only seems like an excuse to day drink, mingle, and judge the other spectators. I played a few times with him when he was practicing. The only use I had for a polo mallet was getting the tennis balls my dogs pushed under the couch out. Harry playing here is the regular people equivalent of getting to see Janet Jackson at the state fair on an general admission ticket to the fairgrounds.

[quote]I recall reading comments on articles a while back and this was the reason as to why she looked like shit on her wedding day.

Also, unlike Kate, Meghan couldn't pull off dressing in white for her wedding. That was acting beyond her ability.

It still shocks me that on the most photographed day of her life that Meghan looked so sloppy. She actually looked great for the reception party, why didn't she put the effort into looking good for the wedding? She has to have some mental illness.

Meghan's wedding dress was such a let down. I was expecting her to knock it out the park when we got the big reveal. When she did the car ride over, and we only saw the top I was at least hoping the rest of it was going to be beautiful. She stepped out of the car, and looked like she bought off the rack at a clearance sale. He reception gown was more glamorous than the wedding gown.

Megs didn't really care how she looked on the big wedding day - you know the production that cost millions and millions? If you recall, she and Haz had already had the ceremony that counted with just the two of them and the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Harkle's backyard.

Harry has really gained a lot of weight. Some men carry the weight in their tits and get moobs as soon as they put on the pounds. Since he got married, but more specifically since he moved to CA, he always looks wrinkled and disheveled. You would think with the beautiful weather, the beach, the polo, the private gym, the in home yoga wellness center, BOTH Harry and Meghan would be in peak physical shape. Lilibux is 1 year next month so the post pregnancy body is no excuse. Meghan is from LA & the industry - Angelina Jolie, her idol, wasn't carrying the weight. I saw a photo of (former) BFF Katherine McPhee who was pregnant at the same time and she looks svelte now. Harry has no excuse.

Meghan is really one of those who benefitted from the nose job. For some people it can transform an ugly duckling into a swan. She has Doria's nose, which is the nose Archie had on those leaked beach photos. Archie also has dark hair, not the vibrant red that is always put out in their saturated Xmas cards.

Also, why couldn't Harry put on sunscreen before leaving the house and why does he have man slathering him with it.

Harry has gotten uglier with every month since he left. The huge bald spot ringed with frizzy red hair, the scraggly teeth, beady close-set eyes, the harles-Philip nose ever more prominent, and the strangely flabby body - it's kind of sad. And she lost all resemblance to the the pretty actress from the early Suits days. Something about them physically, singly and as a couple, gives off serious mental issues.

Meanwhile, William, taller, broader, and in much better shape, smart enough to go bald and look good with it, with Diana's nose and smile, an increasing air of command and purpose, with the sleek, impeccably groomed smiling wife . . .

Which brother, really, was "trapped"?

Watching a youtube about the balcony -- and apparently the "Dean" was supposed to walk Queen Elizabeth down the aisle at Philip's memorial, but Andrew elbowed his way past the guy and what could the Queen do? so she went along with Andrew.

So... the family is taking extra precautions with upcoming events that Andrew might take advantage of. Apparently the oaf thinks he can force his way back in.

Harry's lucky there's a royal even more despised than he is (Meghan too, for that matter), not that they've ever appreciated any bit of luck they've ever had.

[quote]Sometimes I wonder if the spouses of people who have altered their appearance with cosmetic surgery realize that the kids are going to pick up the unaltered looks in their genes. When they finally realize it, all they can do is not publish any photos of the resulting freaks as they get older

Everyone in Hollywood gets plastic surgery. Name one woman actress or celebrity that hasn't at least gotten a nose job, apart from Barbara S and Carrie. Everyone gets plastic surgery.

[quote]Harry has really gained a lot of weight.

Part of it is no doubt the pandemic & not being required to make public appearances, but I wonder if he's on anti-depressants or some sort of mood stabilizing meds that make him lethargic

When I was a Peace Corps Volunteer in Nigeria, I would hang out at the Polo Club in Kaduna - a lot of wealthy retired generals lived there and they loved their polo. Another perk was that I could get real ice cubes in my G&Ts. I didn't have running water and electricity where I lived so this was a nice break. And I grew up with the "horsey" set riding, so it was great to get a chance to ride.

The food and drink was better in the former French colonies, however. You could get baguettes, cheese and nice wine for cheap.

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It's like Angelina and Brad's kids. Angelina is completely made of plastic and she churned out a few funny looking kids.

Ditto Posh Spice - she is also made of plastic and her children are meh in looks (they are also short).

And on and on.

If Harry and Meghan genuinely wanted to repair their relationship with the RF in any real way, they would have gone to Windsor for a couple weeks or even a month, and spent time with The Queen, privately and spent some time at Highgrove with Charles and Camilla, and then with William, Catherine and the kids away from the spotlight, completely private, and avoided Jubilees and public appearances. They could have made efforts to reconcile with Edward, Sophie and Anne, too. Zara and Harry used to be friends. His betrayal of trust really harmed him in ways he never considered, and he was foolish and selfish. He needs to show remorse and some level of emotional growth.

The world is full of the ugly children of really good looking couples. It happens all the time, without any plastic surgery being involved.

R305 It could never have happened, the Royals would assume that they were spying on them to gain more content for Netflix of the book.

If you betray The Monarchy (as opposed to just leaving) there is no way back.

I hate when people dissect the looks of kids online. It’s usually bullshit but even the smallest critique could cause a lifelong scar if they saw it. We’re all incredibly sensitive at that age.

There are no "working" royals. None of them do actual work. Cutting ribbons and making appearances is not work.

That said, why is this thread still going and when did DL become home to a coffee klatch of tabloid reading frauen and mean girls?

^Hi, Meghan!

Sorry, no, R310. I asked a question.

R 311 when can we take you out to get a new wig or 'xtensions. We can set up a GOFund, if you are a bit short on cash.

R310, showing un isn't seeking forgiveness, which at this point they need to do. They have to ask for it. They have to understand why they have to ask for it.

Backfat often sprouts hair as a person ages and organic and free range is always best, so just a matter of time, by the look of things.

Sorry, R313 for R305, not R310.

I forgot about the porkie re the backyard wedding in advance... the Bowers book will be rich with material even if he didn't find anything new, which apparently he has.

R312 visiting frau troll. You can tell as it has no clue how to properly respond using brackets.

Never understood why Meg spouted that story about the backyard ceremony when it was such an easily proven lie.

R309, the comments about grocery stores stocking up on bananas, violent deaths masquerading as entertainment for the public, the blatant hypocrisy, supporting a pedophile…it’s the “Eat. Pray. Love” and “Wine o’clock” breed of frauen.

Thoroughly detestable and predictable. Reading through some of these unhinged posts, I see why this couple is adamant about security.

Royal family threads used to be fun, properly bitchy and filled with lashings of hot gossip. Now…this mess of cunts, cunting over people that don’t know of their existences (that goes for all sides) are showing their true selves.

Bowers books will be like a copy of a lie detector test. Youch, and Owie for sure! It will herald many postings of blasts from the pasts of Prince & Princess Porkies greatest hits. Like the Greta Thunberg prank & many, many more. So many lies in such a short time.

Exactly R319. These fraus think they are witty but childish insults about back fat, etc. are just unclever and dull. No one has answered my question yet either. How and when did a group of fraus, largely British, descend into a gay space and start littering it with trashy UK tabloid stories about a couple no one else cares about? It's obsessive.

It happened at 7:08PM. ET. Jan.8, 1878. There was a fire in the sky over Manitoba. a British Frau looked up & said, Nelly, lets' descend on that sacred & venerable tome. Data Lounge & troll it. Yes, we will be attacked, but so bit it!

There you go..

I think someone mentioned they were kicked off another site and somehow found this place. I don't know why they don't go to reddit.

There are some recent gross exaggerations on this thread.

R321 You're scolding people for posting about H&M yet you've posted on this thread 7 times already to tell us how not interested you are in the topic of H&M.

If you're not interested in a thread topic then keep scrolling, toots. No need to trot out your tired hall monitor schtick. It's not our fault H&M provide so much material to talk about and laugh at on an almost daily basis.

Or perhaps you could switch to working for a different PR firm - one that doesn't require you to monitor an obscure gossip site at all hours of the day and night.

R309. Amen. Why do so many British people have weird idea that the Queen does any work? You are so much more hard working !

Sure, giving speeches on live television in front of audiences of thousands is slightly stressful but you probably speak in front of more people than that in an average week. And, of course, getting shot at while doing your job while maintaining complete composure is stressful, as is the ever present threat of being attacked, but I’m sure you fend off that kind of gun attack most working days. Every single thing she does is scrutinised and criticised, but, like most people, she probably enjoys public mockery. Just as she enjoys meeting odious public figures and staying on her toes and not offend them, making small talk with thousands of strangers, attending tedious events, etc

In summary, we salute your service and wish the Queen had more of your work ethic

R325 is a fucking moron. DL is not that obscure and I've been here since 1995.

You Markle loons are obsessed with pr firms.

R327 Then stop behaving like you're being paid to defend them and get all threads about them deleted.

The frauen reside at RoyalDish, which has banned any type of discussion of Prince Harry and his wife. Hence they swarm here to DL to spread their nonsense.

R326 thanks...I actually work unlike the old lady.

R328 I'm not getting threads deleted. As usual you're wrongly accusing.

Oh the irony.

R328 no one is defending them. Where do you see that?

All this talk of H/M repairing their relationship with the RF is absurd. It's as absurd as the thought that Meghan would be able to repair the relationship with her own family.

H/M told Oprah that: the RF is racist; that Charles "unfairly" cut them off financially and denied their kids royal titles; maligned Kate; insulted William; etc., etc. Then blew off Philip's funeral and apparently tried to allow Netflix to film in palaces without permission. On top of all this, they've made no real effort to correct misstatements (e.g. Charles can't give the kids royal titles until he's king) and left the racism charge hanging in the air, sullying the entire RF because they refused to be specific about who made the statement.

If you were a member of their family, would you be willing to "repair"?

We've all had people like this in our families. They're invited to family functions--usually big things like weddings but not smaller, intimate settings--and we make polite small talk with them for a few minutes. But that's the extent of engagement.

And that will happen here. If they show up for the Jubbly, they'll attend large events where no one has to interact with them much. They'll be forced to the periphery and, most likely, will find an excuse to leave early or miss most events because no one will engage in their drama.

The RF will get to say that they invited them, but they are under no obligation to actually speak to them--other than a few polite words. And that's what's going to happen. They will grey rock them.

I wish the Queen would dress up and hand out "alms" to her people outside the Abbey, just like the Queens of yore. Hopefully gold coins. This would really uplift her people in their time of need.

They have dodged a bullet. To stand out on the balcony with the rest of the Windsor grifters. They are not missing a thing.

Does Sam Heughan know of your existence?

None of the people discussed on DL know of any or our existences, not least because we're almost all anonymous.

It's a safe bet that Henry Cavill, Tom Hiddleston, Froylan, Faye Dunaway, never mind all those politicians, don't know of our existences, either.

That's why it's called a gossip site.

And for ffs retire that ribbon-cutting bullshit.

The Prince's Trust is probably the most successful youth-help organisation on the planet. It became so successful it's just opened an American component in New York City. Idris Elba is a graduate. Ask him what it did for him.

Charles was ahead of the crowd on the environmental issues, brought back flora and fauna to Gloucestershire that had disappeared, brought in organic farming, and established cottage industries that have enriched the residents.

The Royal Foundation headed by William and Kate got $500,000 to the Invictus Games - funny how Harry and Meghan never mention it, innit?

Dr. Barnados, the Great Ormond Street Hospital for Children, the National Theatre . . . those royal patrons are critical to steering big donors to those places.

Remember what the man said in "Wall Street"? "I just got on the Board of the Natural History Museum: cost me a cool million."

That's how these nonprofits get big donors.

And the Queen has three constitutional rights: to be consulted, to encourage, and to warn.

Really - no one is suggesting it's the equivalent of being a coal miner in Wales, but do get real and grow up.

There's a rumour flying around that Meghan is considering a second Oprah interview to "set the record straight" in response to Bower's book.

I can't believe Meghan would do anything so mental, given how little the first one did for her.

[quote] Harry has really gained a lot of weight.

[quote] Part of it is no doubt the pandemic & not being required to make public appearances

Right.

[quote] Harry has really gained a lot of weight.

[quote] Part of it is no doubt the pandemic & not being required to make public appearances

Right.

That's right R336. The Prince's Trust US was announced last fall, and the first gala was held 2 weeks ago, with fanfare, celebs and lots of money. Had H&M not been such raging assholes, the Prince's Trust would have been an awesome place for them to land. So many opportunities thrown in the garbage!

Fat Markle.

Fat Harry.

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The center parting and the long hair (extensions) being pressed flat on the head only emphasize her fat, jowly face. Ewww.

This evening on the 6 o'clock local news here in Texas, there was an extended segment about the Queen not opening Parliament and about how Prince Charles and Prince William would instead. Anybody who thinks Americans aren't obsessed with the British Royal Family is deluded.

Why does Meg think that Oprah would give her another go? Round one was pretty much a disaster.

Obsessed? I don't think so. Some people are royal watchers to some degree, but the Queen's health is of worldwide interest.

R345 I think it was just the tabs stirring the pot. The idea truly is mental.

What probably isnt untrue is that the Sussex lawyers are on Red Alert. They'll be going through that book with a fine-tooth comb looking for something libelous com defamatory com slanderous.

Jobson's bio of William comes out on June for William's 40th.

Valentine Low's book and Harry's are supposed to be published on the same day, 29 September.

With the Brown, Jobson, and Bower books all out by July, and the Jubilee over and everyone either waiting for HM to die, or just past her funeral, Harry's book might be just a little late to the party.

By then, everyone mght be just fucking hung over with it all.

It would be just like the Sussex tradition of Really Bad Timing.

Oprah as Philip is dying, Harry's vicious memoir at the tail end of the stream of royal books and the old lady's state funeral.

If they were going to do an interview it should have been 6 months earlier and coincided with the release of fuckwits book.

Nothing they can do to recover the Royal situation now and they have little left to sell.

Meghan will have to strap the mattress to her back again.

R348 Do you mean if the Oprah interview and Harry's book came out at the same time, he'd make more money off the book?

I'm probably not understanding what you're saying.

I think doing either of those things, at any point, and then they'd be fucked -- but probably doing them together would earn more book royalties, and maybe a bigger advance for more dirt (he's signed for three or four more books? does he have it in him? yeah I know - a ghost writer - but what else is there to say now that all these other books have come out?)

why would O want to go anywhere near these two toxic narcissists? That first interview made her look bad. To say nothing of the boots, the glasses, the wig, and the exaggerated gestures.

I hope you're right R350. But somebody's gonna host them. Andy Cohen? Perez Hilton?

Oprah’s been burned by liars before. She won’t make the same mistake with the same liars twice. She has washed her hands of those two grifters.

How will he handle the usual press tour when his book comes out? They're only going to want to discuss the dirt. Maybe he won't do it. I just posted on another thread how the Brown book has been so discussed and so copied and pasted I don't feel the need to buy it anymore as don't know what is left that would be new or interesting. Maybe serialisation is a mistake, though I don't think the Brown book was and it still feels completely told without having cracked the spine.

Harry Big Tits and Meghan Flat Chest are going to murder the Queen on the balcony. Don't let them into the UK.

Will Megs toss the little old lady's lifeless body off the balcony to the crowd below, snatching the crown first, and placing it smartly on her own head, in the process? She's been practicing "the wave" at home, in the mirror, for hours everyday. Queen Meghan I. So exciting. The rest of the family will be taken directly to the Tower, for some serious haircuts.

I was just looking at some of the photographs from Parliament today and thought about how she would look, with that Stepford smile plastered on her face, savouring a moment she can't really understand, thinking it all to be the best red carpet yet the most boring red carpet.

I'll always remember her whining about having to learn a new national anthem and all those hymns. Well, yeah, it's called memorization. Actresses do it a lot.

If the parts are big enough.

Every day they find a moment to furiously manifest the rapturing of gan-gan. “You’re not concentrating hard enough, Harry!”

R332 You think getting every critical thread about these two locked and deleted isn't defending them? Especially when you make that task your life mission? Really?

Did you work for Twitter during the last presidential election by any chance?

R358 I'm not getting these threads locked and deleted. Are you paranoid? What is wrong with you? You think one poster can get a thread deleted?

Get thee back to whatever gossip site you're from, frau. You don't know DL for shit.

I've been here for over 20 years, R359. Maybe you don't know DL, doll.

Been here longer, doll.

20 years and only posting on this Harkle thread? Hmmm......one wonders.

Yes R359 doesn't understand the ignore feature. You expect us to believe you have been on DL 20 years and the only posts you have made are a few regarding Harry and his wife.

FAIL.

I've had R539 on ignore for ages. I usually block only true misanthropes (a high bar in this joint) and evident avengers of the honour of Meghan Markle, which I imagine R539 is. And still up to her old tricks.

R361 What do you want? A medal?

Good heavens R365. Who mentioned medals?

R364, what tricks are you imagining?

Hackle obsessers are truly bizarre.

R359 is a refugee from RoyalDish, which banned all discussion of Prince Harry and his wife.

Here is one of her 4-5 comments (over 20 years mind you!). She uses the terms "PR" and such - she is one of those deranged women who hate Megan Markle even though they don't know her...

"R321 You're scolding people for posting about H&M yet you've posted on this thread 7 times already to tell us how not interested you are in the topic of H&M.

If you're not interested in a thread topic then keep scrolling, toots. No need to trot out your tired hall monitor schtick. It's not our fault H&M provide so much material to talk about and laugh at on an almost daily basis.

Or perhaps you could switch to working for a different PR firm - one that doesn't require you to monitor an obscure gossip site at all hours of the day and night."

R367 doesn't even know how to tag the right people she's throwing accusations about. You're very limited.

There was never any way they were going to miss this, the biggest and sadly probably last big blowout for the queen. They want that “Two Lilibets” photo and they’ll get it too, mothafuckas, if only in private with Harry’s phone.

“Gran. If it’s quite all right. A photo, for the little one?”

Harry's in trouble again.....

IMO, MM is probably angry with Oprah and vice-versa. Oprah hopefully realizes she gave them a platform to tell half-truths. MM feels ambushed (even though she wasn't) that the Oprah interview wasn't a huge image rehab and didn't "set the record straight."

Every critical thread on the Harkles has not been deleted or greyed out, wtf are you talking about?!

They've gone to hundreds of posts, parts I 2 3, etc., Chechen the archives, do a search on Queen Harry Meghan Sussex William Kate . . .

Hundreds of threads went forward many to 600 posts. Once in a while a really stupid one or one replicating two other threads on the same topic got deleted.

But no matter what that delusional Klan Granny Troll crows, the search and archives record more than two years of what Theresa May would call a "robust debate" on the Sussex Follies has been actively ongoing.

And will continue to do so. Royalty were the first celebrities. They remain, especially the BRF, and especially since Meghan Markle's arrival, the gift to gossip that keeps on giving.

[quote]no matter what that delusional Klan Granny Troll crows

And there it is. The mask always slips.

Um, there is no ONE Klan Granny troll. This is a delusion that real trolls cannot grasp. Just as old bag, Davida, constantly thought she had one stalker. It's almost always a collective of old DLers tired of the repetitive threads and the obsessive stalkers of certain celebrities who think they are being picked on by one particular person.

I'd rather any number of trolls that someone confined in the world of Davidas and s and that sad cast of Real Housewives of DL, but you do you.

New Harkle scandal. The Kiwi actor Harry hired for the Travalyst TV commercial is a notorious anti-Semite. oops

R376 Which one? And does someone get to be an anti-Semite in a country with no Jews?

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It's Dave Fane. Among his quotes "Hitler was right to roast the Jews."

Oprah would interview Hitler if he were alive and there was a buck in it for her.

She's not going to go back and do another interview with H&M because the first one only got buzz (and eyeballs and sales) because it was their first big interview together. Who cares about a second one until the divorce?

One dead giveaway is that these threads get busy during UK primetime but as the US nears evening they slow way the fuck down.

Maybe I’m stupid, but can someone explain what a “no-strings” interview might mean?

I wonder whether Harrys gets frisked for microphones when he mets with Wills.

I didn't realize DLers were all on a schedule, R381. Maybe people are posting from different time zones or they have insomnia or they're just checking their phones while on the bus or the toilet or a lunch break.

The fact that you're so paranoid you assume everyone who disagrees with you is a paid Russian operative speaks volumes about your mental illness.

R382 - no question or subject off limits.

[quote] Let's stop the farce that Oprah has a moral compass.

No, I know that, but I don’t think she likes looking like a dupe. And she’s been duped before.

R384 who mentioned paid Russian operatives? You do throw some crazy shit out, don't you? I merely think it's odd that these threads tend to go dead when the UK is sleeping. It is telling.

Of course, the Big O could do another Harkle interview and attack them for lying in the first interview and all subsequent BS.

THAT would get ratings.

Give it a rest, R387. You're constantly doing this shit and then claiming you don't then continuing with your shit. Your posting history proves you're a liar and a nutcase.

No R389, you cut it out. My posting history is very varied while yours is not. What am I constantly doing that am denying? The only thing I've denied is getting every MM thread shut down which is impossible for one poster to do.

You could take your own advice and ignore my posts, hmm?

Moral compass, I dunno. Ego, the one thing bigger than her ass. She may have got bragging rights for bagging the interview but she took personal criticism for her superficial handling of it.

No surprise R389 is an anti-choice frau on top of everything else. Probly also a Trumper as so many of the MM obsessed fraus are.

R390 Again, your posting history is here for all to see. But, yes, I will block you now just like I have to about every week because this site is fucked up and un-ignores trolls like you on the regular.

[quote] Let's stop the farce that Oprah has a moral compass.

[quote] No, I know that, but I don’t think she likes looking like a dupe. And she’s been duped before.

I agree that she would draw a line if she felt duped. She might agree to IV them again, but it won't be softball like the first interview.

Not comparing H/M to white supremacists, but in the '90s, Oprah had on the white supremacists & they ran her over. Oprah said never again.

I don't think MM would want to do another Oprah IV, esp. if Oprah was going to ask more incisive Qs.

The Potato Head family is in a precarious spot, and Oprah wouldlove to have them back. If that doesn't work out, how about the bubbly Joy?

Nothing in my posting history I'm trying to hide or ashamed of. I post on a wide variety of topics, my little troll, unlike you.

Never understood people who complain about the ignore feature not working or "unignoring" as I've never had that happen to me.

I can’t find a release date for Tom Bowers’ book, does anyone have it?

I see Valentine Low’s book on the UK Amazon site but not the American one, doggone it.

[quote]I can't imagine any modern day person interested in that shit anyway.

Yet you're responsible for almost half the comments in this thread so obviously some people ARE interested, dear. People like you.

R377 - "In the 2018 New Zealand Census, 5,274 identified as having a Jewish religion."

Hungary had about 2 million Jews before WWII. Now, they have about 90,000. Therefore, their notorious antisemitism must have declined by about 60%, right?

The thing about antisemitism is that it doesn't really hinge on anything real.

Britain's Jewish population is about 250,000 - out of 65 million.

And yet, the rise in antisemitism in Britain is rising alarmingly and exponentially.

Do think it's based on what percent of the population they represent?

Oh sweetie, I don't care about the topic. I come here to laugh at you women. So obsessed about a couple you project motives onto that you breathlessly follow.

Half the comments? Hardly. Where the fuck are you getting that from? Do you perhaps think one person only is giving you Markle loons shit?

Oprah should be lying low right now. Democrats are furious about her Dr. Oz.

R400 People tend to be bigoted against people they've had a run in with. In a country with only 5,000 Jews as you say, most New Zealanders have never met a Jew and never will thus would not have had a negative experience with one. I know. My father lives there.

Hitler hated the Jews because he was homeless as a teen because so many of the businesses were run by Jews and none of them would give him a job. And so he slept in and ate out of dumpsters while his hatred festered. His objective was all about getting revenge on them.

R404, I find this turn in the thread to be disturbing. Anti-semitism is not "caused" by Jews. It flourished in England even when Jews were completely banned. Poland has had no Jews to kill for many decades, and it is as anti-semitic as ever. No one has ever accounted for Hitler's hatred of Jews. It is known, however, that he was a liar who invented or exaggerated stories of his own suffering.

R368 You stupid fat fuck - go look at my post history - been here quite a while, with some 10,000 posts...

Yes an idiot from Royal Dish who recently found us. Claims to be on for 20 years yet only 5 recent posts all about denigrating members of the BRF.

Go away nasty frau. Just go away.

It's been suggested that having Harry and Meghan in London for the Jubilee means some ability to control their output. Netflix has been banned from anything The Palace has control of.

I still think there will be an announcement that she can't make it, and Harry will be there on his own. This is PR gold for them. It's free, not just publicity, but free headline news publicity.

I've only ever met 1 Jewish person here in 40 years (as far as I know, but everyone is pretty open about that stuff and nobody would hide it). I did hear about the David Fane scandal at the time. Everyone was outraged at what he said, despite hardly anyone knowing Jewish people.

The UK has had a sizeable Jewish population for hundreds of years, it looks like it has declined because all religion has declined in Europe in the past 100 years.

My husband was born Jewish (Mother & Father) but identifies as Atheist and ticks that box on official documents (as did his Mother and Father in later life)..

US religiosity is psychotic by European standards

If Oprah's munching Gayle's cooter on the regular there is no way it's dusty.

[quote]I come here to laugh at you women. So obsessed about a couple you project motives onto that you breathlessly follow.

Do you genuinely not see the irony here R401?

Oprah got huge backlash from the H&M interview. She and Gayle have both noticeably dropped them. No way Oprah would do an encore.

Harry and Meghan couldn't care less about standing on that stupid balcony. And the old bag won't be invited to stand on Harry's balcony in CA, either.

Gayle's cooter is like eating a thick roast beef sandwich a jus with the most delicious gravy that is finger licking good. So is fried butter and I am not talking about Omid Scobie's face.

Has Gayle mentioned either of them after babbling about Meghan's supposed receipts and Harry's unproductive phone call?

Well, *we* think the Oprah interview was a mess so there was a backlash as far as we’re concerned. The Megstans think it was tickety-boo. I don’t think the NYT or WAPO did a fact check after the interview. So for the majority of the US public who don’t give a shit, the interview happened, they dissed the BRF, what’s for dinner?

Oprah is more tuned in than the average American and she had made the decision to go soft on them, not question any of the answers. Maybe she thought the interview would be basically introducing H and MM in their new home to the public after a long Covid shutdown and they would be welcomed, Diana v.2, and she would be the prime mover of that success.

That didn’t happen. Harry, a purported adult, complained that the money tap was turned off. Weirdly, I think one of the biggest issues was not ‘Phillip on his deathbed’ (he could have lingered for weeks and it wouldn’t have gone over any better if it aired after his death) or ‘the BRF is racist’ (everyone assumes that some members are racist) but the: ‘we were really married the day before in the garden’. Immediately the A of C stated that absolutely was not the case and anyway, you can only be married at certain venues. That is something definite Oprah didn’t know she was going to say and wasn’t prepared for it. So it made Oprah look unprepared and foolish and revealed to viewers that MM was willing to embroider the truth so what else was she misrepresenting.

R413 - oh but they want to be on the balcony. It's just what their failing Sussex brand needs.

As for the Queen, she doesn't stand on anyone's balcony but her own and even that is looking precarious since she has mobility problems.

^No, 413 was not being serious. But it WAS funny.

[quote]It is known, however, that he was a liar who invented or exaggerated stories of his own suffering.

So Hitler was just like Viola Davis?

[quote]You stupid fat fuck - go look at my post history - been here quite a while, with some 10,000 posts...

Just because you live on DL 24/7 does mean you're not stupid. In fact, it kind of proves that you are.

Harry looks so ugly here

Why hasn’t Netflix simply given up? Unless they are allowed to mock Harry and Meghan, it will simply be impossible to assemble a program about them that anyone will watch. I can’t imagine how much dreary footage they have.

There is probably a fair amount of footage of them being vile and idiotic, but I doubt they could use it.

Meghan, the People's Princess.

Meghan isn't even a Pineapple Princess.

"People's Princess" - yech. Never liked that cornball honorific.

[quote] ...but the: ‘we were really married the day before in the garden’. Immediately the A of C stated that absolutely was not the case and anyway, you can only be married at certain venues.

So, Data Loungers, here's a question for you.

I saw the Oprah clip where MM states they were really married in the garden 2-3 days before. "Just the two of us."

But it was Harry who then chimed in with "And the Archbishop of Canterbury".

I have wondered since if MM's original plan was the first statement, trying to set up a tres romantic scene of the pair of them quietly pledging their troth privately with no one else around. (Not easy to disprove.)

But it is Harry (being a dunce), who drags in the Archbishop of Canterbury, which, of course, anyone with a functioning brain would have realized, would result in questions to the AOC who was never going to confirm a pretend, never happened, not with me, bub event.

So, did MM scream at "H" for his chime when they got back to the house on Rattlesnake Ridge?

Or was the AOC comment just part of the Sussex hogwash and planned all along?

In this Bonnie & Clyde Saga they have created they need to check the details before they bust into banks of public good will or speak in public. Otherwise, things will continually blow up in their faces & we will continue to feast on them with much mirth, laughter & derision.

They truly are the gift that keeps giving. Carry on Haz & Megs., carry on.

R422, I wonder about that, too. They made a bad deal, gambled and lost. Can’t they just write it off as a business loss? Those dumbasses.

I suppose NF will carry on with the Invictus Games program, probably losing money on it. They got rolled, sonething they must have realized as they were watching Oprah that day.

R368. You are just upset at getting caught for fibbing. You said you have been on DL for 20 years, yet you have only 4-5 posts, all recent, all about Megan Markle.

The proof is in the pudding as to what you are about. A RoyalDish frau, caught out in her lies.

Don't try to fool us here on DL - we will always sniff out fibbers like yourself!

Memo to R430. I said I've been on DL for 20 years (which is true). I didn't say this is the first and only account I've had. Maybe if fascist psychos like you didn't keep having people banned from posting for daring to disagree with you about any given topic (no matter how innocuous) one wouldn't have to create a new account almost every month to keep posting around here.

Two trolls

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The "we were married a few days before in a backyard" seemed like frau branding to me at the time, not like a major lie. She was trying to distance herself from the huge, expensive wedding ("that was just for the world"), both to play down the view of her as a social climber who then looked the gift horse in the mouth and to position them as two besotted lovebirds, content with simplicity.

It was a play for relatability with the American audience.

Prince Charles received an unexpectedly warm and enthusiastic today...and this is in London! I've said it before and I'll say it again, the monarchy is far more secure in the UK than the media would have you believe. Royals have a very predictable life cycle: they are hugely popular when they are young, become less so in middle age, and then have a reassurance when they are elderly.

R434. It was a major lie because it was an attempt to cover a major component of their fraud. There was a lot of anger that they demanded a lavish wedding and left less than two years later (and almost certainly had plans of an eventual departure at the time of the wedding). Meghan thought she was cleverly lying her way out of this scandal. But, as always, in her stupidity she made it worse. Not only were people angry she had scammed her way into a lavish wedding, she essentially told the British people the wedding meant nothing to her. Through her lie she went from looking like a scum bag to looking like an ungrateful scum bag.

Almost all of the lies in the interview were in this vein of “ image management”. She’s aching for more titles for her family but realises she can’t admit that. So she makes up a bunch of convoluted lies about tithes being linked to security.

Has ANYTHING gone right for them since they left his family? What are their successes?

They produced two children despite aging reproductive systems and that mystical, Darwinian pull of the universe to make it hard for certain entitled upper middle class types to conceive. IVF isn't just a fun way to spend a couple hundred thousand... it's because Mother Nature put her foot down.

R437 As Tina Brown said, H&M made the mistake of thinking the monarchy needed them more than they needed it..........

Will Trump getting back on Twitter make things better or worse for them?

???

R437 I'd say BetterUp went ok for Harry. I remember reading early on that they were approaching tech start-ups asking for a stake in ownership in return for being their shills. Not sure what sort of deal Harry got with them, but it's got to be pulling in steady money. I would also reckon to say the book deal is going to be a success for him. I know he has a four book deal, so as long as Meghan isn't shoehorning in on the other 3 they owe, I think that too can be marked a success.

[quote]I'd say BetterUp went ok for Harry.

Really?

The only successes you can point to are books that haven’t been released yet and an appointment to a startup, none of whose financial details have been disclosed?

Has Harry even started writing any of those books? After all he and Megan have a history now of signing big deals as content providers without wanting to put in the work of actually creating the content in question.

Harry's book is being ghosted. So he'll talk and talk and talk and talk and the writer will extract the good stuff to earn the advance. This guy apparently has a knack for extracting wounded feelings, which arguably Harry has a knack for having.

That figures. I couldn't picture Harry even knowing how to turn on a computer much less writing a few hundred pages of coherent sentences.

She was late 30s not 47. It's hardly a "miracle" that she had children.

I did not call it a miracle and if you could read carefully or post honestly you would have claimed that I did.

"As you reach your mid- to late 30s, your eggs decrease in quantity and quality. Also, older women's eggs aren't fertilized as easily as younger women's eggs."

Anything else I can correct you on, R448?

R433, I think you're correct about naive being the last word that should be used to describe this pair, Meghan especially. She has maintained a team of lawyers and industry representatives for herself, along with a PR team. They're pretending again if they are implying any lack of advice or understanding of how their contract with Netflix worked .

Isn't there ample basis now to wonder that they just don't heed anything they don't want to hear?

One of those four books is Markle's memoirs, and unsure about the other two..

I'm not reading 400+ posts on this but...

Has anyone said racist yet?

How tone deaf can the BRF be? It's like the Harry mixed race clan is in a segregated category.

Separate is inherently unequal.

R453. No. Remarkably free of idiots this time.

That is not what it is like at all, R453, unless you're a troll, trolling.

Smell the fraus

I think they should be miked up. The RF wouldn't be shocked or amazed. They'd expect it.

Imagine the tapes. Harry talking & Meghan talking over him . Will responding: "Hmm, Umm, cough, Hmm, Oh, Hmm, Umm. Kate: "Oh that's a lovely caftan, ti fits so snugly, can I look at the tag to see who made it. How's your dad doing after his heart problems, Meghan?".

You know they won't have the balls to talk to Ann. Or if they do, hoping against hope for a damning comment. Ann: "You're talking to me, because you're miked up? Are You? You do realize that I have warned MI6, they are right outside waiting for you. Don't you run away."

It's AnnE. Don't you know who I am?

Hey guys! I commented on this thread or another H/M thread that I recently learned the BetterUp—where Harry “works”—is a sponsor of the nonprofit I work for. It’s a very prestigious nonprofit—and the reason I mention this is because I’ve set a madcap plan in motion that will leverage my organization to snag Price H.

I spoke to our sales team about doing an event on mental health and inviting BetterUp to participate in the event. If they agree (and I’m sure they will), my next move will be to convince BetterUp to include Prince H on the panel

That’s a bit of a long shot, but I’m doing this all for DL in thanks for all DL has done for me!

R453 - WTF are you talking about?!

Harry's and Meghan's problem is how fucking unlikable they are. Even in American polls the Queen and the Cambridges come out ahead.

The BRF bent over backward whilst Harry and Meghan waltzed in already in oppositional stance.

What fucking "category" are you talking about, Pet, dear?

The $30 million wedding? The home renovated on the backs of the taxpayers? The staff that the Palace threw under the bus rather than make an issue of how Meghan treated them?

Go back to Celebitchy.

R453 - Oh, by the way? Andrew isn't allowed on the balcony, either. Nor are Princess Anne's kids, or grandkids, or Andrew's daughters.

This isn't about "equal" you fucking moron. It's about who held up the monarchy and who didn't.

Harry, by the way, has committed High Treason. Yeah, the law is still on the books: attempting to undermine a direct heir to the throne still qualifies as High Treason.

He's not on the balcony because he told lies about the family to the world, attempted to undermine his father and brother, is allegedly bringing out a memoir dragging his father, brother, and father's wife again, and shrieks about a more equal world - but won't give up his unequal title.

They betrayed the family, trashed it, and trashed the institution whilst still milking their membership in it. They put the boot into the old lady whilst Philip was on his deathbed. That's why they're not on the balcony.

And as far as tone deaf goes: go take a look at Meghan's and Harry's poll ratings. Let them onto the balcony and the booing from the crowds below will be heard in outer space.

The BRF know exactly what they're doing.

You're the one that's tone deaf. Report back to the Klan Granny Troll that it didn't work - again.

R459 Sounds good Eve. I hope you get to ask The Duke some pointed questions

R445 - The publication date for Harry's book is 29 September. That's also the pub date for Valentine Low's book on the byzantine world of Palace courtiers.

Harry has a first-class ghost writer. The book is probably well past the galleys now and is either in final proofs or being printed.

I wonder how soon after the Jubilee excerpts will begin leaking. Couple weeks?

I wonder if the Palace's lawyers are demanding to see the book before publication.

We are getting FOUR books from this cunt??

Book 1: How the BRF Killed My Mummy

Ch.1: How to Cheat Your Way Through High School

Ch.2: Fighting In The Military is Easy

Ch.3: Cressida and Chelsy are Cunts

[quote]‘we were really married the day before in the garden’. Immediately the A of C stated that absolutely was not the case and anyway, [bold]you can only be married at certain venues.[/bold]

I can see how Meghan wouldn't know, but Harry should have known this. It was an issue when Charles married Camilla. IIRC, they had wanted to marry in private setting, (a chapel not a garden) at Windsor, but couldn't. If a private setting is used for a wedding, it has to be open to general public. So they married elsewhere (registry office?). But Harry has the intellect of a turnip. He didn't know he's related to the Romanovs. But then to go a drag the AoC into it?

I should clarify. The private setting has to be open to the general public for marriage ceremonies.

Maybe they thought that the Archbishop would be too polite to refute their lie?

[quote] Maybe they thought that the Archbishop would be too polite to refute their lie?

Didn't the AoC point out that he signed the marriage certificate on the day of the big shindig?

And he (the AoC) stated that if he had actually married them before the date he signed the registry, that he would have been committing a CRIMINAL ACT by signing it the day of the shindig!

The Sussex pair are so inept, it would be hilarious if they weren't such a nasty pair.

I think they're so used to the RF not being able to answer back that they just assumed the AoC wouldn't either.

Book 2: How the BRF Killed My Mummy

Ch.1: Cuntess Camilla vs Saint Lady Di

Ch.2: That Wasnt My Heroin In My Pocket

Ch.3: Prostitutes & Poker

What I wonder about Harry's book is this: the ghostwriter is supposed to have talent/gravitas; Harry doesn't. How will Harry be able to promote the book? Maybe he won't and just let his PR people do the work? Or another sit-down with a friendly interviewer? Even then, they'd want him to go into the juicy bits, which could lead to another faux pas along the lines of "we had to live off my $10 million inheritance".

The publisher will give interviewers a small range of questions Harry will accept from them; then the publisher will give Harry an ear piece.

R473 That was a $40 million trust fund in USD.

And he had the tone-deaf gall to use the word "survive".

Two clowns. She's standing in the middle of Botswana moaning about her hard life and no one asking if she's okay, and he's using the word "survive" about having to create his new life without his Papa's backing at 35 with 30 million quid.

And they wonder why people dislike them so much.

The last Jubbly ever! Isn't this exciting?!?

Villains galore - HazMaghot, Pedo Andrew (ok, I know I'll get lectured that he's innocent and he just met with Epstein for the occasional game of checkers before taking his kids to a pizza party), Toe Suckee Sarah, even Prince Tampon though mostly he's aged out of his embarrassing phase and there's just his sausage fingers to wonder about... and those ugly York girls. And jolly conman Boris.

And FABULOUS heroines - old Liz (despite being too snobby to be seen in a wheelchair); beauteous anorexic (we wouldn't have her any other way) Waity Katie; board fave dyke Anne -- and then there's stern macho William and upstanding wimpy but delightfully gay Edward (even with socially admirable special needs daughter)... What's not to like?

Almost as exciting as the Trump annus horribilus, culminating in an actual fucking coup attempt. No wonder Putin decided it was a good time to go rogue.

[quote]even with socially admirable special needs daughter

It's their son who is rumored to be on the spectrum. She has or had strabismus. She may have had surgery by now.

Some DLers' insistence that Louise is mentally disabled makes me think that they might be engaging in DL's deliberate typo tradition (WHET, cak and graxy).

^ Well, deliberate error in this case.

1) Didn't the AoC say publicly he conducted a rehearsal in their garden, not an actual ceremony, three days before?

2) Archie's christening was very secret and we never got an attendance list nor the names of the godparents. Didn't the pair claim it was done by the AoC when official records show he was hundreds of miles away?

3) Louise was born extremely cross-eyed from a condition that eventually required surgery to correct. It gave her a weird look but there was never any question about her mental abilities. That was her brother, who has been rumored to be on the spectrum.

Open to correction.

[quote] The "we were married a few days before in a backyard" seemed like frau branding to me at the time, not like a major lie.

As was Donald Trump claiming to be a “very stable genius”, I guess.

They didn’t just fudge how much something cost, or exaggerate a bit. They made up a completely fictional event and dragged the highest ranking church leader into it. That’s a pathological lie, not “rebranding”.

Jesus. No wonder they get away with everything. They have idiot enablers everywhere.

[quote]That was her brother, who has been rumored to be on the spectrum.

That's an internet thing and there's no basis for it except some resident developmental pediatricians based on what they see in photos. You wonder what disorders we'd diagnose if we could have a look at them.

R480, Megs framed it as “the big wedding that was cruelly forced on us was so stressful that we had our own private little ceremony the day before in the garden and we exchanged vows”.. Didn’t she also claim that the AoC was one of her special friends?

Every time I see AoC that Archbishop of Canterbury is not the picture in my mind.

Lady Louise had stribisimus which was corrected with several operations. She had been well educated and neither she nor her brother evidence spectrum issues. The cabal of jealous cro es who hated Mary Donaldson floated the same tumour about Prince Christian when he was a toddler. A bunch of DL hopefuls spread the same rumour about Prince Louis as a baby because of his eyebrows. Years later, it is obvious that neither Prince is "on the spectrum".

The Queen is probably the least vain person in the BRF. FDR hid his crippled legs for the same reason: the necessity for reassurance that the ship of state was in capable hands.

Kate is blessed with an amazing physique. She looks the same today as she did in a skimpy black bikini coming out of the ocean next to William before they were married and he still had hair. She's has three plump babies, she looks nothing like Diana did when her eating disorders became so visible.

You could see Kate's legs through that gold gown at the Bond premiere. They looked anything but anorexic.

Andrew isnt a paedophile. That refers to people who are sexually attracted to children UNDER TWELVE YEARS OLD.

In fact, his accuser was at the age of consent in both NY and London. Bill Clinton and it's of other "distinguished" men partook of Epstein's private jets, stocked with quite a bit more than caviar and 100-year-old Scotch.

Andrew was Giuffre's token revenge. She went after the low-hanging fruit and it worked.

There's plenty to see here that is a matter of record without spreading vicious rumours without legal or reality bases lies.

Kate has never looked happier or more confident. And she's very shortly to step into the title that her long-dead mother-in-law held. Kate's doing fine.

^*rumour (not tumour)

lots (not it's) of distinguished men . . .

Fucking autocorrect.

She called the wedding a "spectacle" and said it was for the public anyway. The result was a pissed-off public, which I think was her point. In getting in her mean girl jabs, she fucked herself.

Take a look at the video. H looks surprised and fed up when she says it.

Harry looks down and starts playing with the chickens when M is going on and on with Oprah.

She’s not flying halfway around the world just to be treated like a visitor to a prison (searched and patted down, for heavens sake!) and a pariah. She will not go. She may allow Harry, if he feels it’ll be worth her wrath when he returns.

The thing about people like Meghan is that they’re territorial. Her fundamental insecurity bloomed like a nuclear cloud when she wasn’t on her home turf. I think she felt strongest in Toronto. How could she feel strong in a place steeped in her husband’s ancestry? (And I don’t blame her; I’d be intimidated, too!)

Sadly, my mother was very much like this. She had to control every little thing. If she couldn’t, there would be endless drama, pushing buttons until someone cracked.

Not sure what the personality disorder is, but I’m very in tune with it. I can spot them instantly.

Poor dear anorexic Kate a dozen years ago.

The Middleton girls and their enviable muscle tone.

Loonngggg before marriage, babies, etc.

Kate's very tall and very thin. Like a supermodel. Meghan is short and squat with toothpick legs. Like Spongebob.

Poor dear anorexic Kate in that nearly transparent golden gown.

Can we cut the crap already about the ED?

I was trying to imagine what the conversation would be like with those two in the room. The other thing is they're going to have to travel in unmarked cars with tinted windows. I guarantee there's going to be a tomato shortage if both of them are there. And do you really think people are not going to refrain from booing if they're seen with other Royals in public?

They have shat on the British public, and they have made absolutely sure the British public is aware of it.

^^^*Correction - just three years ago in that first photo.

The white bikini photos are the pre-marriage ones.

Backfat! Backfat! Where are you going?

Meghan has made back fat socially acceptable! If you've got it, girls, flaunt it!

The pancakey bust line in that red dress was at least as heinous as the squishy back roll. Meanwhike her thought bubble was DAMN I look marvelous, ready for my closeup.

With her hair pulled back and up in a bun, someone commented that she looked like Weezy from the first season of The Jeffersons.

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R500 If Rebecca English said she’d received an invitation then she was joking. There is no way on Earth that a Daily Mail reporter would be invited to anything by the Sussexes.

How could you be so dim?

The King and Queen of hollow, pointless announcements specifically meant to keep their names in the press.

Wow. It is now every fucking day. How on earth are they funding this PR assault?

R500, has River RSVP'd? He knows the daughter of an earl, after all.

Who will they invite to this shindig? Certainly not any of Harry's immediate family.

I was thinking that too. My first thought was the Beckhams but they made a public statement about always supporting the Queen and snubbing the Sussexes from their son's wedding. I wouldn't be shocked if they go the opposite direction. I wonder if they can squeeze in that christening as well.

Guess they can invite Oprah, Gayle, Serena and Dax Shepard

Maybe they’ll invite Scabies. He’d be so excited his face would fall off.

I could see Meghan having a co-party with the children of Grenfil Tower (sp? - the cookbook, the big fire) and their mothers. I know there is debate, but Lilibet is 100% American, having been born in the US in terms of citizenship. Archie is British.

They are probably dual- citizens, R509. It’s not that difficult to arrange with the right paperwork, and both the UK & US allow it.

Maybe Madonna would like to pop in - I mean, there will be paparazzi! Let's see - Katie Price? Katie Hopkins? One or two of the York girls and mum Sarah?

The possibilities are endless. Meghan has so many brilliant ideas, does she not?

The only good thing that can come of their visit is if Meghan is utterly and devastatingly humiliated for all to see.

"though Royal staff have put a "ring of steele" set to go around the Queen to keep her from getting on camera"

R500 - There is no reason for a "ring of steele" as Netflix CANNOT use any footage of QEII without the permission of QEII.

Where do people come up with all this nonsense??? The Daily Mail????

They can't do a public event in the UK during the Jubilee. Security, remember?

Yes! Meghan and Harry are hounded relentlessly by the press!

She won't show. She'll claim she has COVID or something.

R516 - if Meghan doesn't show up for the Jubilee, the children will remain at home too so that would defeat the purpose of the Sussex brand to mingle with the Royals and introduce Lilibet to her namesake. They NEED this trip more than the Royal Family needs them to attend.

Netflix may have their foot on their necks. There may be a clause in their contract that if they don't come up with something useable, advance paid back with a penalty. Not sure how these things work. I would think with all the financial losses for Netflix, at this point, the people who set up their deal might be under the gun & have moved the target onto the backs of Meg. & Haz.

Since Invictus was such a thud & the Hoda interview such a FU to them Netflix won't care how bad it gets for them, as long as Netflix gets the clicks & $$$. So, Boos, flung tomatoes, loads of humiliation on camera mo' money for Netflix. Big business won't care if She, he or whoever is O.K. Netflix at the end of the day is a Big Business on the verge of being not so big. They will fling Haz & Meg. to the lions, to humiliation & derision without a backward glance if it will benefit Netflix.

Getting some pix taken with Granny is all Megz has got left, now. Lilliebux and Merchie gotta get to work!!

Along with Pearl and excepting the cheezy Invictus footage, NF might abandon all other parts of the $100000Trillion deal. These two just cannot deliver anything beyond useless platitudes that disappear into the wind.

Of course, Netflix could always turn around and use whatever footage they (Netflix) has and build a negative video on the Sussex pair.

Doesn't Netflix already have permission to film the dastardly duo?

This is all such petty bullshit. This balcony shit. Seriously. This is her Jubilee. It is extremely are and special. You would think that all her family would be there. Yes. So Charles, Camilla, William, Catherine, George, Louis, and Charlotte, Harry, Meghan, Archie and Lillibet,; Andrew, Beatrice and Edo, Eugenie and Whatsis, and Anne and he husband her kids and grandkids. Edward, Sophie, Louise and the boy, James? John? WTF eve. The only ones not one the balcony would be Princess Margaret's kids and grand kids. Or the Kents and the Gloucesters. Enough. The Palace courtiers love to exercise their power disguised as "protocol," or "tradition." They enjoy being divisive. A bunch of fucking shit stirrers.

R522, all family celebrations will be held behind the scenes - I know I read there's a ball, for example. They always celebrate privately too, as per the link below. There will be lunches and dinners and such. The public facing events marking her service on the throne. Given the sensitivities, it makes sense to limit the visibility of the black sheep, although I get the sentiment behind your argument.

Private dinner marking their 60th wedding anniversary, whole gang, even Our Val.

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R522 most people despise Harry and Meghan. They don’t want people on the balcony that will generate Ill will. It is also a public institution. The queen can’t be seen to endorse their corruption or their animosity towards the British people.

So, what's the betting on what events they'll attend besides the Thanksgiving Service in St Paul's?

The concert in front of BP?

Private family parties?

Enquiring minds want to know.

Harry and Meghan were given a chance at representing a country (the UK). But for various reasons they didn’t like it. That’s one more country than most of humanity will be asked to represent.

If they want to stand on a head of state’s balcony, they can shop around to see if another country is interested in them and will offer them terms more to their liking. Otherwise, I suggest they get lost.

R522 - You are the shit stirrer.

Harry is busy suing the British government.

He and his wife have not lost any opportunity to trash Britain, the monarchy6 (remember when they're pet dog Omid Scobie called it an antiquated, racist, toxic institution? He takes his orders from Meghan.) Remember the lies they told on Oprah? And Harry gets 15 minutes with the Queen and a few days later is trashing the family again by suggesting the Queen is surrounded by vipers and throws more shade at his father and brother.

Remember when Harry leaked details of private phone conversations to fucking Gayle King who then came out and fucking THREATENED THE WINDORS WITH MORE DIRT IF THE SUSSEX'S "CONCERNS" weren't addressed. I mean, really, the fucking sour dimwitted brat got an American journalist to THREATEN Britain's Head of State and making it clear he'd told her shit that went down on the phone between him and his father and brother?!

Why the fuck do they deserve to be on the balcony?! They left, then they burned bridges right and left - you don't get back in because it's the old lady's Platinum Jubilee.

Neither one of them give a flying fuck about her. They only want their rapidly tarnishing royal aura simonised.

They forfeited their right to be on that balcony. And, it is highly likely they'd have been booed by the crowd below.

You pays yer money yer takes yer choices.

They made their choices whilst those courtiers and the family BEGGED Harry not to move too fast and consider the long-term consequences. He gave them two fingers up in response.

Fuck that shit. The Queen has done exactly the right thing.

^*their (not they're) pet dog

Harry and Meghan are opportunists, They want to exploit their notoriety and connections, and ironically, their proximity to the Royal Family. (Harry is still a member of that family.) This doesn't make them corrupt or unique. Not in the Royal Family or in the public. Harry and Meghan did generate animosity with their indiscreet and deliberately controversial comments about the Family. I am not judging the truth or falsity of their pronouncements. I'm just going on what they said. And they would have had to be unconscious or in a coma to not know how this would affect the family. IMO, They believed so fervently in their own celebrity, and the world audiences they were pandering to, that they never thought it would have consequences. They were wrong. They are incredibly self absorbed, opportunistic, and foolish. Even unlikeable. But not corrupt. No. Andrew put the C in corruption. And lord only knows the levels of corruption and influence peddling that goes on as a matter of common practice behind the scenes with the Palace staff. Charles and his top guys were tip of the iceberg. It isn't even that they need the $$$ as much as that they play a game tying to get away with shit, and laugh at who eve was dumb enough to offer them money.

I don't know R527. It's inconceivable to me that Mrs. Harkle would poke her linty weave up anywhere at all in GB, especially family events. Her anxiety would be off the charts. Harry's days of sitting bright and shiny in the front row are long gone, so how would he cope hovering way in the back of a group photo next to his beloved uncke Andy? But they announced they will be there, so I'm going to guess they'll be in the stands, no church, and drag their flat asses in to family dinner.

I can't imagine that anywhere other than front and center will be acceptable to Duchess D-List. If the Harkles can't negotiate their way into that, my bet is she stays home.

Her Majesty showed up unexpected at her Royal horse show. I guess she's doing what Philip did his final year, taking things one day at a time.

R53 Accepting a public title, issuing a manifesto stating that you expect to use it for your personal profit it and for political influence, and the. throwing a hissy fit when the Queen tells you that is unethical is the height of corruption. No other member of the royal family has issued a manifesto declaring that private enrichment is his or her birthright and then insulted tue British public and the Queen when rebuffed. Andrew, for all his personal vileness, has never been publicly so vile.

Harry and Andrew are going to be removed as Counsellors of State at the CHOGM meeting in June, it's likely why Harry was summoned before Invictus

I hesitate to teach the basics, but the CHOGM has nothing to do with Counsellors of State. Outside the UK the Queen is represented, where she head of state, by someone who lives there, for example the Governors General in Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Counsellors of State function only in the UK.

R524 THEY MADE ME SIT NEXT TO THE WOMAN WHO KILLED MUM!

Harry and Meghan shouldnt be on the balcony. She cant even follow orders to stand in one spot.

Meghan once bragged to her friends that she was one plane crash away from being the Queen of the UK. That's when the Cambridges started flying on separate aircraft.

Meghan ever had actual friends instead of people she was just using?

R539 that video speaks volumes. She is all attitude. You can see she has no respect for any of it. Now no matter how you or I may feel about them all and these traditions and ceremonies, she married into that family. She knew exactly what she was getting into. I want to see Harry reconcile with his family because he is going to need them.

LOL you know she tore into him later for daring to try to correct her behavior.

You have to have an official perform the ceremony. R426, I think Harry said it because he knew it was a necessary condition to get married. Otherwise it was just a romantic conversation. Meghan may have thought it could have been implied, but the comment was probably a spontaneous lie so Harry didn't understand the nuance. He was trying to follow her lead and sunk the thing. She's the better liar because he had a whole palace of people protecting him so he didn't really have to develop the skill much.

There are a number of people who have experienced racism who want to believe her stories. I think Oprah and Gayle were 2 of them and there are many in Britain. But these two were savvy enough, once the backlash started and the lies came out, to realize they didn't want to be any part of this. Prior to that, I think they just believed what Meghan and Harry told them, thinking racists often lie or cover up the truth. With this interview, however, Oprah had to do a lot of preparation so she knew what to expect, as someone said. But when others were able to convincingly refute H & M's comments and versions of events, they realized they were giving an audience to con artists. Oprah's had to come to grips with Dr. Oz after he morphed into a Trumpian, so she is getting a big dose of reality as far as grifters go.

Despite her very mixed record of fashion choices, Meghan did choreograph some good "fuck you all, we're happy!" looks during her last public outing in the UK. For example, the picture of them in the rain, under the umbrella, smiling at each other like crazy, came out quite nicely, and she looked good in the blue dress. She also looked good in the red evening dress. It doesn't matter if they were weather or occasion-appropriate--all that matters are the pictures that go around the world. So maybe she's got some good fuck-you looks/outings planned.

But I'm hoping for more train wrecks like the red Carolina Herrera or the green Alexis Carrington number.

R544. Oprah didn’t prepare. Oprah doesn’t prepare.

Even without preparation, most people with a Breton would realise some of it didn’t make sense.

R546 - Oprah prepares! I just read her bio and they said absolutely NOTHING is left to chance on her show. Everything is prepared, researched, etc. I agree with the poster that due to their own experiences of racism so desperately wanted to be on Meghan's side. Oprah steered clear, but Gayle is still in the fray. She was a royal commentator recently and she is still very much team Sussex. Gayle is a monster.

There is a huge difference between Oprah preparing and nothing being left to chance. The first is something Oprah has to do. The second is something staff do. It may be incorrect but I heard she watched The Crown in preparation! That is the extent of Oprah’s preparation.

Even immediately after the interview aired she remained very proud of it. That’s how dim she is. It was only the eventual public revulsion at the interview they made her aware it was actually a piece of trash.

I have seen no evidence that O has regrets about her "interview with the Harkles. What did I miss.

Oprah has been fooled/hoodwinked many times before*. She (or her staff) should know better. She was dazzled by the rare prestige of a descendant of Henry VIII sitting before her!

* the girl raised by wolves, the sweat lodge guy, Lindsay Lohan, the addict guy, the Holocaust survivor couple, Dr. Phil, Dr. oz, The Secret folks, $cientologists…

She hasn’t expressed any regrets. That wouldn’t be mer style. Soon after the interview Oprah was forced to remove the lies she herself included in the interview when it was rebroadcast in the UK ( the manipulated headlines). She also apparently hadn’t included along with most of her other interviews im the content she made available online.

r549 Oprah has had the full length version of the interview scrubbed from the Internet pretty much apart from a few social media brief clips. She has done that for a reason.

Meghan reminds me so much of Jodi Arias (and others who shall remain unnamed). Villain or victim? The personality disorder is palpable, but some are absolutely blind to it.

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^ or will they be hosting them and playing "Happy Families"?

A lot of the Festival of Lies with Oprah looked completely rehearsed, including O's OTT reaction to the question about the baby's skin color. Plus there is no way a control freak like Meghan would sit down to an interview without completing vetting and approving the questions. Meghan had a very specific agenda with the interview and nothing was going to detract from that. Notice that Oprah rarely did any follow-up questions to some of the Harkles' biggest whoppers.

Oprah came off looking like a royal dope.

She is. She's played out. Missionless. Aimless.

People are crying about oPrAh rEpUtAtiOn, but what does she care? She took the interview off her site, so what, and will wait patiently should either one need her setmrvices again during a breakup. Millions for all.

Oprah has jumped the shark. The joke of her Harry and Megs interview. Foisting the charlatan Dr. Oz on the US and the complete phoney “Dr” Phil, I have lost complete respect for the woman.

She’s evolved into a millionaire grifter. She’s a caricature now.

So when did your faux outrage occur? Phil first appeared 1996, Oz 2003

R561 have you followed Dr. Oz's recent career? Oprah loves her some snakeoil salesmen. Meghan qualifies as one more grifter for Oprah to make a buck off of.

Oprah is an enigma. Always will be.

R559, exactly right. Some of these posts are comical. MJ fans said the same about her interview with his accusers with nothing to back it up. She obviously doesn’t leave up her big interviews; whether it’s posted on her site or not is irrelevant. Oprah got her interview and moved on. If there is something else to be gained, she’ll be on it.

Oprah is as greedy and conceited as Meghan is.

It’s practically impossible to find, but Bill Zehme wrote a hilarious article about her in Spy Magazine. Page 30.

It is OLD, but I like it because it was written before she became the “media mogul” she is now. She was only a talk show host back then.

I miss Spy.

You and me both, R566. So smart. So sharp.

The Harkles are now leaking the story that they th old the Queen they never wanted to be on the balcony at the Platinum Jubilee. Exoress and DM carrying it.

No one, anywher of course, believes them.

Wtf is wrong with these two? It's patently obvious that this is a lame attempt to get in front of a bad story after it's already in the next county?

Frankly, were I them I would have been leery about it, given the risk of booing. Hey, if William, the national anthem, and Abide with Me aren't safe from it (all right, it was Scousers at the FA cup final), the Harkles should be uneasy.

But given Harry's sour face after meeting the Queen, his desperate clinging to his royal title, Meghan flinging it around like confetti, his attempts to get his security status changed based on his "immediacy in the line of succession" - the likelihood that they're uninterested in major photo ops like the balcony is ludicrous.

This is like how they never wanted to bring their kids up in the "goldfish bowl" of Kensington Palace, and were just thrilled to get Frogmore Cottage. Well, we know how thrilled they were with FC, don't we?

Meghan never met a goldfish bowl she didn't like.

Why do they leak stuff that makes them look like they're insulting the intelligence of the rest of us? And two weeks after the fact?

Their PR instincts are truly lousy.

It’s a shame things couldn’t be patched up. It would be nice if Harry and Meghan could be on the balcony—-Meghan wearing her New York City red gown squatting as if she needed the toilet and throwing copies of The Bench to the Crowd; Harry juggling while wearing his Girl Dad shirt and spreading.his cheeks at the end; Archie waving a sign naming the royal racist; and Lilibet being christened live at the center of the balcony. A Platinum Jubiler deserves something special like that.

R569, submit that script to The Windsors.

^^^An explanatory note on the booing at the FA Cup final . . . Scousers have been booing the National Anthem (occassionally not every time) since the 1980s. Strong Labour area and they hated Thatcher deeply- her policies bit the Merseyside badly.

Booing Thatcher herself was problematic as she didn't have a symbolic or personal presence at FA cup finals (the mind boggles at the image), so they began booing the Queen and anthem instead.

I think it's being blown way out of proportion. It's jusr the Scosers, stupid.

Don't forget the real lyrics to LFC anthem, "You'll Never Walk Alone" is actually, You'll Never Get a Job". Hold your head up high as you sign on. Walk one to the the job center through the rain, as your dream are tossed & torn. If you're in Liverpool

TH is total bullshit. The dying Queen, celebrating an historic Jubilee, and she's your grandmother. You have felt close to her. You and your wife claim you talk to her regularly and you have this relationship and if you had the chance to be on that balcony because she asked if you wanted to join her, and you refuse? Please. This is utter and complete bullshit and I doubt very much whether they were asked, and they refused. Personally I think Charles discussed it with Harry weeks ago, and told him how it would be and that was that. Charles probably consulted with the Queen, but he was the Decider.

I miss when the Royals were glamorous. Now Harry wants to parade those pickaninnies around, Charles and Andrew look so old, and the even the Queen looks like an old bag lady. They should feature William and Kate more.

See assholes?!?! We DECLINED!!!

R575 - we do see asshole. You weren't invited anyway and now your terrible PR is so predictable making up a story to make you look better. Sorry, we do SEE through you.

Tom Sykes in the Daily Beast was writing about the fact Netflix wants footage as close to the Queen as they can get: filming inside Toad Hall, etc. Netlfix apparently is pushing the Harkles to get real, royal footage - that's what they were paid for. Going to be interesting. Unless the Harkles can deliver something unique for Netflix, they're out the door.

That article did seem to hint around that Netflix was promised footage of TQ and other members of the RF.

Netflix hired them to get companion pieces to their big hit The Crown. No doubt Harry had promised them all the senior royals would be delighted to take part in tell-all documentaries. Then he and Markle went on Oprah to trash his family. Netflix had to be outraged. What other interest would they have in a D list actress nobody had ever heard of and a lower-level Prince who couldn't graduate from high school? No doubt promising the Queen would take part had been what sealed the deal. It's hard to overestimate how stupid Harry and Meghan are.

Nefflix was equally stupid if they thought the Harkles could actually get the RF to take part in any sort of TV program. And they were exceptionally stupid by giving the Drab Duo any upfront money.

[quote]$cientologists

Oprah's gone very easy on them lest people start asking questions about the cult she's involved in, that Agape church that Doria also is part of.

R549 100% Added that Gayle King was the one that asked Joe Biden's sister what she would think of Meghan running for President, so despite the rumors, Oprah is still very much milking her connections with H&M. The fact that Gayle asked Biden sister that out of the blue shows that Meghan has major political ambitions though I wonder if she realizes she'll have to drop her title or if she's waiting to dump Harry first then run for office?

On YouTube I watched a Brit documentary on Beatrice and Eugenie. I hadn't realized how the Brit tabs had constantly attacked them for years. Meghan got nothing compared to all the shit they got. You could kind of understand why Eugenie would sympathize with Meghan. And Fergie and Andrew have been relentlessly attacked for decades. Andrew threw a hissy fit when it was decided B & E wouldn't be working royals and the government refused to pay for their security detail. There had been massive attacks in the press about how B & E used their security people as chauffeurs and lackeys, dragging them out of seedy nightclubs where they used to go with Prince Harry.

Basically, Harry is copying Andrew who originally insisted his daughters had to be HRHs, working royals, getting the government paying for their security. And Meghan is copying Fergie who fled to America to make a buck off her royal connections. Not exactly a great celebrity role model.

Bea came across as dumb as shit but nice. Eugenie appears to be a real little schemer, insisting she have as big a wedding as William and Harry had.

[quote]Andrew who originally insisted his daughters had to be HRHs, working royals, getting the government paying for their security

With Andrew and Harry and family out of the picture and the Queen not able to get around, it was short-sighted not to have some spare working royals that could now be used to fill in.

Oh well. the Brits will just have to carry on without the oduous Yorks..

R574 is the Klan Granny Troll trying to get the thread shut down.

A bit late, though, dear, aren't you?

I might be missing something here, but it seems Netflix has only themselves to blame for this fiasco. H&M threw Netflix under the bus by allowing CBS to broadcast the Oprah interview. Harry, the same with NBC with the post Invictus games interview. What kind of contract did they sign? Do we have any confirmation of the actual advance amount? If it didn't state that Netflix would be their only source of any broadcast information, who can blame them? They're desperate for and bent on maximum publicity.

R587 I think we can safely assume that Netflix has now figured out that Harry and Meghan fucked them over. The only thing they have to sell is dirt about the royal family and they've been handing that out to all and sundry since the Oprah interview. Spotify had to take over the only podcast Meghan produced because it was full of plagiarized comments without attribution. Those two were really not ready for primetime.

I was at the supermarket yesterday and all the tabloids at checkout have articles trashing the Sussex. They need to start suing US publications.

R588, between them, they have five lawsuits in the works. They’re kinda busy.

No problem. Litigation is one of the Harkles' main income streams.

R588 “Sussex” is singular. “Sussexes” is plural.

They don't need more working royals they need a more compact monarchy like the Danes and the Swedes and the Norwegians.

The BRF aren't going to let the Harkles get shit for Netflix. If Harry told them that, he's either dumber than even we thought or a pathological liar.

Meghan running for president with not an iota of experience, a closet full of skeletons, and a royal title, is, again, symptoms either of clinical mental illness, or more evidence of the death-wish of the Democratic Party.

I don't believe any of it. Biden should tell his sister to shut it, the party is in enough trouble as it is.

Jesus. Harry and Meghan are like some sort of harbinger of evil: everything the touch and get involved with becomes cursed.

The BRF is lucky they left. They're America's problem now.

One too many, if you ask me.

Haven't you heard, they didn't want to be on that damned old balcony anyhoo.

Stinky, nasty old balcony, F that balcony, who'd want to be on it, only losers!!, Who'd even want to be on that tacky old balcony. We're putting a better, bigger, fancier balcony on Chez Monteshitto. We do have to put on extra foundation since our best bud, James Cordon will be on the balcony with us. We NEVER, Ever wanted to be on that balcony.

Signed HRH Meghan Queen of Everything. And yes, I have my own crown, better than all those stinky old crowns Kate wears. And this is my real hair & nose, so there!. And this is all true!!

Those 2 kids look like Pa Markle with Smeg's old nose. No wonder she doesn't show them. Also the boys hair is dark, not red like they tinted it in the picture they shared.

You think she wanted the girl to look like Diana?

r596 I just find the karma funny to have her kids look like her father

R594 So so accurate. Meghan reminds me so much of Donald Trump - just make anything up, as they go along, whatever makes them feel important in that instant (we were already married when we had that stupid big wedding, so THERE! ha ha ha)

You put that level of narcissism with an IG of around 80 or so... voila! These fools. And it fucking works!! In America, anyway. (only to a degree but still...)

* IG should be IQ. (well, G sorta looks like a Q ... and I've been absorbing so much stupidity for so long, it's seeped in)

There were photos yesterday of M on the polo grounds with H. She is wearing daisy dukes and a white button shirt unbuttoned to show her chest. Not a winner.