Jackie has rightly been given the big screen treatment but I often think that historical stories can be more interesting and quirky if told from the perspective of people who were a few small steps away from being the central figure while at the same time still being near the heart of events. When I say biopic I am not suggesting gushing, sugary sweet but rather the whole Kennedy saga told through a different lens and character warts and all. As the widow of an assainated presidential candidate she is not insignificant.
Should the lifestory of Ethel Kennedy be given the big silver screen biopic treatment by Hollywood ?
by Anonymous | reply 58 | May 7, 2022 5:31 PM |
Ethel the documentary films was good but I think dramatised portrayal has merit too.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | May 3, 2022 3:28 PM |
I would say there should be. She led such an eventful life. I love the book "The Other Mrs. Kennedy". Her young life was just as fascinating - the Skakels were quite the rambunctious family.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | May 3, 2022 5:49 PM |
r2 Thanks. Would you say the book 'The Other Mrs Kennedy ' should be the basis of what books or a completely new script not based on existing work? I haven't read that book so I don't know how translatable it would be to the screen.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | May 3, 2022 5:54 PM |
I bet you could use that book as the basis for a screenplay.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | May 3, 2022 8:52 PM |
I am trying to think who could play Ethel?
by Anonymous | reply 5 | May 3, 2022 8:55 PM |
Give it to G. Nobody's going to see a turkey like this anyway.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | May 3, 2022 9:01 PM |
Ooh meow r6 !!š I think it could be more popular than you suppose!
by Anonymous | reply 7 | May 3, 2022 9:24 PM |
I hope you recover from your apparent head injury.
Ethel Kennedy came from a braying clan that made the Kennedys appear to whisper. The entire film would be like Patti LuPone holding the Lloyd Webbers hostage at Christmas.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | May 3, 2022 9:37 PM |
r8 Sounds like it could very watchable!!
by Anonymous | reply 9 | May 3, 2022 9:39 PM |
"Ethel, Joan and Jackie" would make a great movie, and I don't mean Mertz, Crawford and Hoffman.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | May 3, 2022 9:57 PM |
How about Merman, Van Ark, and Curtis?
by Anonymous | reply 11 | May 3, 2022 10:02 PM |
They already did the miniseries of that book 15 years ago r10.
The Kennedy Women would make a great miniseries.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | May 3, 2022 10:05 PM |
No, no, no r11! Itās Waters, Fontaine, and Mason!
by Anonymous | reply 13 | May 3, 2022 10:17 PM |
Or r12 Oscar nominated film like Jackie was about five years ago.?
by Anonymous | reply 14 | May 5, 2022 7:23 PM |
Ethel lacks an essential glamour that Jackie had in spades.
No one cares about Ethel.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | May 5, 2022 7:26 PM |
r15 She does lack glamour but is glamour neccesary to a compelling dramatic or interesting story? I'm sure plenty of films that have done well have lacked glamour.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | May 5, 2022 7:30 PM |
The Skakels are a nutty family. One of my friends went to school in LA with one of Ethel's. nieces- Caroline. I forget the Ethel's brother's name, he's long dead. But once I tagged along to their house in Bel Air, and it was Sunset Blvd. territory. One of the rooms had a hole in the roof, and grass was growing on the floor.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | May 5, 2022 7:35 PM |
What??!! r17 š²
by Anonymous | reply 18 | May 5, 2022 8:08 PM |
That's not surprising r17 - the Skakels were slobs. Lots written about them and their Greenwich home life back when Ethel's nephew was being tried for murder. A total mess, inside and out.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | May 5, 2022 8:27 PM |
r19 Murder?? I remember a rape trial from the early 1990s but not murder but then again I was quite young so
by Anonymous | reply 20 | May 5, 2022 8:39 PM |
Look up the case of Martha Moxley r20, and the conviction of Michael Skakel for her murder.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | May 5, 2022 9:49 PM |
In The Other Mrs Kennedy, one of Ethelās brothers (Jim) moved to Bel Air with his wife to get away from the Skakels.
The wife was a depressive alcoholic who spent her days smoking in a housecoat and the house was a pigsty.
Thatās probably the house r17 visited.
Ethel had another relative who was a murderer. Mike Medaille was the son of Ethelās cousin Betty Skakel Medaille, and he murdered their neighbor, a young boy who was their neighbor in a Brooklyn apartment building
by Anonymous | reply 22 | May 5, 2022 10:50 PM |
R22, yes- that's who I was speaking of. The mother never left the house, cooked (there were servants) or did much except lay in bed watching TV.
The daughter I knew was funny, but a little off herself. When she bought her own place, she was using a very expensive antique silver bowl as a water dish for her dog. She worked briefly as a costume assistant for the studios. Last I heard, she just waits for that monthly direct deposit from the trust.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | May 5, 2022 11:10 PM |
Who should play Ethel? Maybe that ugly bitch Stephen Baldwin. They look alike.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | May 5, 2022 11:34 PM |
r21 Thanks for the pointer š
by Anonymous | reply 25 | May 5, 2022 11:43 PM |
Featuring Christie Metz as āthe boogerā.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | May 6, 2022 12:03 AM |
Chrissie, goddammit!
by Anonymous | reply 27 | May 6, 2022 12:04 AM |
Olivia Colman could play Ethel.
Ethel used to come to the Merchandise Mart and shop whenever she needed furniture. She expected to purchase everything 'at cost' because the Kennedy's owned the Mart.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | May 6, 2022 12:05 AM |
Chrissy can play the Bel Air mansion.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | May 6, 2022 12:05 AM |
Oh, that Ethel would never agree to a final script.
Everyone knows she's so picky, picky, picky.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | May 6, 2022 12:08 AM |
"The big silver screen biopic treatment"?!?!?!? ETHEL?!?!?!!?
by Anonymous | reply 31 | May 6, 2022 12:14 AM |
r30 Would they need her blessing? If it were made after she died it would beca moot non point.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | May 6, 2022 1:06 AM |
R22 - Google search doesn't turn up anything on the Mike Medaille story.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | May 6, 2022 1:59 AM |
Itās in The Other Mrs Kennedy, r33, the author takes with Ethelās cousin about the murder.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | May 6, 2022 4:23 PM |
Who could play Andy Williams?
by Anonymous | reply 35 | May 6, 2022 5:19 PM |
r35 Ryan Gosling?
by Anonymous | reply 36 | May 7, 2022 12:03 AM |
There's something very squirrel-like about Ethel Kennedy. Who can convey that?
by Anonymous | reply 37 | May 7, 2022 12:14 AM |
Amy Sedaris as Ethel?
by Anonymous | reply 38 | May 7, 2022 1:00 AM |
Whoāll play Claudine Longet?
by Anonymous | reply 39 | May 7, 2022 2:43 AM |
[quote] Olivia Colman could play Ethel.
Quit suggesting roles for that award stealing horse woman Colman. This cunt has robbed American actresses too much.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | May 7, 2022 2:51 AM |
Possible titles:
PICK OF THE LITTER: THE ETHEL SKAKEL KENNEDY STORY
LETTING THE CHILDREN RAISE THEMSELVES: THE ETHEL SKAKEL KENNEDY STORY
RICH, RAWBONED, AND RESENTFUL: THE ETHEL SKAKEL KENNEDY STORY
THE HAG OF HICKORY HILL: THE ETHEL SKAKEL KENNEDY STORY
ETHEL, PLAIN AND TALL: THE ETHEL SKAKEL KENNEDY STORY
WE LIVED IN A ZOO!: THE ETHEL SKAKEL KENNEDY STORY
by Anonymous | reply 41 | May 7, 2022 3:04 AM |
r41 What about Ethel?
Just ethel on its own.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | May 7, 2022 3:12 AM |
r42: people would assume that title was about Vivian Vance.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | May 7, 2022 3:14 AM |
I pick my nose.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | May 7, 2022 3:17 AM |
Who would pair the name "Ethel" with the surname "Skakel"?
That's beyond hideous.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | May 7, 2022 3:23 AM |
Knocked Up Yet Again!: The Ethel Skakel Kennedy Story
by Anonymous | reply 46 | May 7, 2022 3:28 AM |
No. Enough with this family. Multiple movies have been made, there are recent documentaries, some of which are directed by family. Itās time to move on.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | May 7, 2022 4:34 AM |
Just the small screen for little Ethel.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | May 7, 2022 4:37 AM |
There should be a Nickelodeon movie about Ethel's life.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | May 7, 2022 1:41 PM |
Let's see:
1. Born into a wealthy Midwestern family. Raised according to the mores of Catholics of that social milieu and generation...Sacred Heart, Manhattanville, marriage. 2. Marries into wealthy Irish-American, Catholic family. Patriarch of that family has checkered background: survives Stock Market Crash, shady business deals, extramarital affairs (notably Gloria Swanson). Patriarch has ambitions to make oldest son first Irish Catholic POTUS. Ambitions transferred to more intelligent second son, after firstborn son is killed in War. Husband is second fiddle to older brother. He's ambitious. Patriarch gets him job with dubious senator. He's able to extricate himself from that mess. Husband and older brother follow in Patriarch's footsteps when it comes to extramarital affairs. 3. Has large brood of kids. She's a Crazy Catholic. Later in life children have many woes. One (or two?) die in tragic accidents. 4. Brother-in-law and husband assassinated. After first assassination, evidence that husband may have had an affair with grieving widow of brother-in-law. 5. Add into the mix: tragic deaths of parents, one brother, and murder charges against nephew. 6. After husband's death makes herself into this tragic, yet somewhat comedic, figure of a martyr to the Kennedy legacy. Children largely raised by help. Complete religious fanatic and all round oddball.
As a movie, it would need a lot of cuts. Concentrate on one episode of her life (I'd go with the son who died of an overdose and use a lot of flashbacks).
For all the rest, it would have been a great TV mini-series had she died 10 years after her husband.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | May 7, 2022 2:02 PM |
Lifestory?
by Anonymous | reply 51 | May 7, 2022 2:14 PM |
Clown Car: The Ethel Kennedy Story
by Anonymous | reply 52 | May 7, 2022 2:31 PM |
Ethel Kennedy = Octomom + 3 children
Ethel Kennedy + Law Degree = Amy Coney Barrett
by Anonymous | reply 53 | May 7, 2022 2:58 PM |
Nicole Kidman IS Ethel!
by Anonymous | reply 54 | May 7, 2022 4:58 PM |
Excellent summary r50. I'd add "Shoplifter" to the final line of #6.
Not only were Ethel's parents both killed in a private plane crash, in 1955 - her brother George Jr was also killed in a small plane crash, on a hunting trip to Idaho in 1966. Just a few months afterwards, his teenage daughter was driving the family convertible when a young child "fell out" of the back fell out and died. Few months after that, his widow Joan choked to death while eating at home in CT. She was pronounced dead at the same hospital where her pre-teen son, Mark, was still recuperating from a serious accidental detonation of experimental explosives he'd been playing with. He would later became a forestry and environmental advocate in Vermont, and died in his mid-fifties there while "working in the woods", leaving behind a large brood of children himself.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | May 7, 2022 5:13 PM |
I think that there should be a Kennedy- Shriver TV movie or something but I'm pretty sure that Maria Shriver and her brothers would never allow it. There's something about Eunice that was just quite something else and Sargent Shriver was a highly educated and accomplished gentleman who was also handsome. Sargent Shriver is my favorite Kennedy in law but I do also truly respect Joan Kennedy for hanging in there for soo long poor dear. .Ethel's family would make a good movie and then maybe end it with her courtship and marriage to Bobby. I dunno.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | May 7, 2022 5:21 PM |
Amy Ryan could play Ethel. She has that loud-mouthed shanty Irish (with money, in this case) schtick down pat. And the pinched face.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | May 7, 2022 5:25 PM |
Ellen Page for Ethel.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | May 7, 2022 5:31 PM |