There has been an explosion of interest in women's soccer over the last couple of years. Particularly in European domestic leagues. This weekend's champions league match between PSG and Lyon is sold out with 47k a sold. The next match in Wolfsburg is breaking their club record with over 20k in attendance. Barcelona women's team has had two back to back home matches with over 91K in the stadium. Sweden's national team recently broke records with their attendance and all of England's matches in the upcoming euros are sold out including 87K at Wembley for the final. In the US a recent preseason NWSL match had more viewers than the regular season MLS match. The English women's league is consistently having high viewership. And this interest should only continue to rise with the upcoming euros and World Cup.
Women's soccer is having a moment
|by Anonymous||reply 77||June 24, 2022 1:33 PM|
And Dennis Rodman's teenage daughter is the best young player that the United States has. She's electric on the pitch
|by Anonymous||reply 1||April 29, 2022 2:45 PM|
Their stock is up, a lot of well known people are buying shares in teams, even from other sports (Serena Williams, Naomi Osaka, etc.).
|by Anonymous||reply 2||April 29, 2022 3:17 PM|
R2 Yeah. The new NWSL franchise in California has a lot of celebrities shareholders and part owners
|by Anonymous||reply 3||April 29, 2022 3:20 PM|
Angel City is having their first home match tonight and have sold out at 22,000 spectators.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||April 29, 2022 3:22 PM|
Something else that is exciting for us that play EA sports FIFA. The next edition well reportedly feature women's domestic leagues for the first time. So you can play as Chelsea and Arsenal etc.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||April 29, 2022 3:44 PM|
Women's soccer is always having a moment.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||April 29, 2022 3:53 PM|
Let’s talk about the English, American, Australian and Swedish women’s teams who were beaten by school boys.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||April 29, 2022 4:03 PM|
That is such a silly and tired argument. No one is saying they can beat men. No one is saying that that matters. It stands alone as a good, engaging and entertaining product. And many many people agree
|by Anonymous||reply 8||April 29, 2022 4:25 PM|
More positive momentum in women's soccer.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||April 29, 2022 6:21 PM|
If they can’t beat teenage boys it can’t possibly be good, engaging , or entertaining.
The average audience for a women’s premier team in the uk is between 4-8 thousand, so I’m not alone in finding women’s football a joke.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||April 29, 2022 9:32 PM|
[quote] If they can’t beat teenage boys it can’t possibly be good, engaging , or entertaining.
How and why would one expect that fair or engaging competition could possibly be had between two different biological sex types with different physiology? What a ridiculous statement. This of course is the very reason why we need and why we have sex-segregated physical sports.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||April 29, 2022 9:45 PM|
Because, r11, we ‘re told women’s football is exciting, having its moment, and more skilful than the men’s game. In truth outside of America the viewing figures are a joke, and the standard of play an embarrassment.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||April 29, 2022 10:22 PM|
The women's FA cup final tickets just went on sale a couple days ago and they are already over 30,000 sold
|by Anonymous||reply 13||April 29, 2022 11:26 PM|
Aren’t they worried about possible womb tilt from all that running around?
|by Anonymous||reply 14||April 29, 2022 11:57 PM|
It's still soccer.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||April 30, 2022 12:54 AM|
That’s terrific R13, but the average attendance at a premier match is 50,000 to 70,000.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||April 30, 2022 5:35 AM|
[quote] women’s football is exciting, having its moment, and more skilful than the men’s game? In truth outside of America the viewing figures are a joke, and the standard of play an embarrassment.
R12 the comparison to the mens’ global game is needless, facile and unfair—that’s what other posters are trying to get through to you.
Because the reach and popularity of mens’ pro soccer across the world is stratospheric, and has always been popular since its inception some 125 years ago, that doesn’t mean that the much-younger, underfunded, and only recently validated womens’ pro soccer should be expected to match these levels and then judged as the poor sibling for inevitably falling short.
If the same endless dirty money, intense and constant media coverage, and the overwhelming attention & respect isn’t there for the womens’ game like it is for the mens’, then of course crowd attendance and tv/streaming viewing figures will be lower. The same financial and cultural hype machine isn’t in place for the females. Nothing to do with athletic skill or credibility.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||April 30, 2022 10:55 AM|
If you do n’t want women’s football to be compared with men’s football then women players should stop demanding equal pay.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||April 30, 2022 1:36 PM|
R17 very well said
|by Anonymous||reply 19||April 30, 2022 3:23 PM|
I'm watching Barcelona vs Wolfsburg right now and Barca is on a whole different level. Best women's football team of all time? so far.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||April 30, 2022 4:30 PM|
And just like that Barcelona gets their first loss in 48 matches. They still advance on aggregate goals but actually got out-played today. The end of the game was fantastic.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||April 30, 2022 5:56 PM|
Do the women play on the same size field as the men?
|by Anonymous||reply 22||April 30, 2022 6:01 PM|
I wish I understood soccer like I do American football. I know the very basics of soccer but none of the strategy. I still like to watch it though.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||April 30, 2022 6:19 PM|
R22 Yes. They have exact same rules and regulations.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||April 30, 2022 6:32 PM|
R22 Yes. All the same rules and regulations. Including same pitch size, same size soccer ball and same size goals
|by Anonymous||reply 25||April 30, 2022 6:32 PM|
R23/R24 bear in mind though that American/MLS soccer is run differently to European/English football, though both are adjucated by FIFA (since 2010).
Most significantly, the financial structure is radically divergent. In the U.S., players sign their contracts to play with their League as a whole single entity, which is an unthinkable scenario on the Continent with its competitive market between individual magnate owners for players, managers & teams.
The League champions of each are decided differently. The U.S. rely solely on playoff match results to decide their season-winning team, whereas in Europe & the U.K. League the finalists & winners are decided by points totals from a regular-season record. Another difference is that of team promotion & relegation between levels in the League, which is a consistent threat and possibility in Europe & the U.K. but not in the U.S. Also, the timetable of games and the calendar of the season are different between the two; for Europe & the U.K. it's August to May, for the U.S. it's March to November.
Even the playing style and the development of players don't match up. Continental & British play style favours crossing and passing the ball up the pitch and using movement in what is called 'long-ball' style; American style favours keeping possession of the ball and using strength of each individual player on the ground to get goals. Most American players are scouted and drawn as older teenagers from high-school or College/University teams, and then trained and developed into pros from there. In the European and especially in the British Leagues, however, promising talents are spotted and seeded for specialist training as young as 5 or 6 years old, and sometimes as young teens go to academies that allow them to train intensively rather than follow a 'normal' mainstream education. Continental youth will also be recruited by big world-class professional clubs at a young age, to play youth tournaments for their own in-house under-21/19/16/14/11 teams.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||April 30, 2022 8:22 PM|
To be a world-class footballer requires low brain function and certain degree of, how shall we say, licentiousness.
Females have a higher baseline intelligence than males, and females are socially-conditioned to keep their legs closed to men. Not so with males.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||April 30, 2022 9:09 PM|
I enjoy it.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||April 30, 2022 10:18 PM|
If peak Amanda Bynes couldn't make womens' soccer happen big, no-one can.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||May 1, 2022 2:37 PM|
Another big reason that womens' soccer isn't really as big across the world as mens', besides funding and advertising/sponsorship and media broadcasts, is that so many boys play it daily, on the street or the school tarmac or the local fields, as a common and socially-acceptable/encouraged way to bond and pass the time, whether they ever turn pro or not. Particularly in England, Spain, Italy, and South America, it's more or less a ubiquitous sight to see groups of young lads playing a game of football together in a public space. Then there's the culture of football on top of that, an all-consuming interest for so many boys due to aggressive marketing and socialisation, capturing the interest of lads who aren't even athletic--we all knew a 'Statto' (a nerdy Aspergic kid obsessed with player stats and match details) or a Freestyler (someone who does tricks with a football but doesn't really play the game properly) growing up. It's a rite of passage for so many young and teen boys.
Much fewer girls play or participate in the culture of football in this social way with such regularity, whether due to enforced socialisation (the general societal expectation that little girls oughn't to dedicate all their time to such a puerile pastime), due to exclusion by their male peers and lack of space to play on their own (schools often only have one pitch taken up by boys, and streets/roads are less safe places for little girls to play), or due to genuine organic lack of interest in intensely focusing on a trivial competitive sport (there's an argument that most females have less testosterone and therefore less interest in sport).
|by Anonymous||reply 30||May 1, 2022 5:15 PM|
Newcastle plays in the 4th tier of Women's Football in England. Today they had over 22,000 in the stands for a regular season league match
|by Anonymous||reply 31||May 2, 2022 7:22 AM|
R31 hopefully the womens' senior squad are less cunty than the mens'.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||May 2, 2022 2:00 PM|
^^than their *fans*, I should say
|by Anonymous||reply 33||May 2, 2022 2:02 PM|
Todays FA Finals between Chelsea and Manchester City is an absolute banger! Great match with over 49k in attendance.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||May 15, 2022 3:46 PM|
Do they wear outfits like those beach volleyball strippers in which their labia are so full frontal? And now they are taking broadcast times away from men's sports. It sucks.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||May 15, 2022 3:53 PM|
Womens football is increasingly popular with viewers because the quality of the play is high and its loads of fun to watch.
I can’t complain.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||May 15, 2022 4:12 PM|
R36 it's cool to see how the womens' game has far more aggression and a more constant pace, though the players are technically physically weaker and slower by biology. Proves that females go harder at this than the spoiled and divo males.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||May 15, 2022 4:26 PM|
[quote] The average audience for a women’s premier team in the uk is between 4-8 thousand, so I’m not alone in finding women’s football a joke.
If you're going to go there, then the most powerful country in the world and enormous sports viewing audience finds your whole sport a joke (male or female). It's only Eurotrash countries that are obsessed with soccer.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||May 15, 2022 5:59 PM|
R38 Are you kidding me? It's also the biggest sport in Africa and Asia and the Middle East and South America and Central America and Eastern Europe.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||May 15, 2022 6:04 PM|
Lol, ooh the Middle East!! Middle Easterners are the biggest Eurotrash wannabes! The point is, if you're going to point to low viewing audiences as evidence of how inferior women’s sports are, then you may as well call out the whole sport of soccer, as Americans don't give a shit about it.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||May 15, 2022 6:11 PM|
I work in college athletics and male soccer players are the biggest assholes. Most of them are international. Basketball, baseball, football, etc. are mostly decent guys. But the soccer players are all jerks.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||May 15, 2022 6:13 PM|
[quote] It's only Eurotrash countries that are obsessed with soccer.
I BEG your pardon?
|by Anonymous||reply 42||May 15, 2022 6:15 PM|
Jesminda did this 20 years ago
|by Anonymous||reply 43||May 15, 2022 6:15 PM|
Do gay men even watch women's sports? There are no hot guys to leer at.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||May 15, 2022 6:26 PM|
R44 Gay guy here and a big sports fan. I've attended more professional women's matches than I have men's. I'm a fan of both and the game.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||May 15, 2022 6:33 PM|
The female athletes are tougher mentally than the men, and it shows.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||May 15, 2022 6:38 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 47||May 15, 2022 6:44 PM|
Juventas won the Serie A title in front of a sold out stadium. A year before the league makes the leap to being a true professional league.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||May 17, 2022 10:18 PM|
Today USA soccer announced that they have agreed on a new CBA that guarantees equal pay for men and women players on the national teams. It also makes the World Cup winnings equal. And it guarantees equal quality of venues for the national teams
|by Anonymous||reply 49||May 18, 2022 9:33 PM|
That’s great news.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||May 18, 2022 10:52 PM|
One super cool element of the new CBA is that US soccer has agreed to pay for childcare for the men's players at their tournaments and training camps same as they have for years at women's events.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||May 19, 2022 6:52 AM|
All they need now is for MTFs to horn their way onto their teams.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||May 19, 2022 8:22 AM|
I've been watching US women's soccer since the World Cup in 2019 (was the best tournament I've ever seen!). I've also watched some of the English superleague like Chelsea and Arsenal, which both boast a lot of amazing international stars. Chelsea has some of my favorite Swedish nationals.
Spain seems to be really backing its women players in terms of fan turnout, although pay I hear is egregious there for Madrid and Barca, and they haven't put much money into girls' soccer there, but I hope that is changing. I'm expecting that Spain will be a serious contender for the world cup in a few years once they become even more cohesive nationally.
To the jerk saying smaller muscles that women have = boring play. Go back to your cave. Some of the women's games are amazing to watch (like the US/Sweden games in the World Cup or Olympics--they go back and forth in terms of wins and losses). I've sat and tried to watch men's soccer and the men flop so much and grandstand so much that it's embarrassing.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||May 20, 2022 2:51 AM|
R53 The USA/Canada game with Alex Morgan's last minute goal was one of the best soccer matches I've ever seen. And the ending to the USA/Brazil match with Abby Wambach's last second header was phenomenal.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||May 20, 2022 3:05 AM|
R54 Yes! And who could forget Brandy Chastain scoring the winning goal in the US vs. China penalty kick shootout in the World Cup in '99 and pulling off her shirt (something men do all the time but don't get headlines for)? Good stuff! Many of those games are extreme nail-biters, especially semi-finals and finals.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||May 20, 2022 3:13 AM|
I find Arsenal & England’s Beth Mead so adorable and so lovely.
Beth does so much outreach work for deprived kids in the community, too. She grew up in a low-income family, so she can definitely relate to the struggle. Got to love her.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||May 20, 2022 12:33 PM|
it looks like this is a world wide movement. The Colombian women's league just had their final in front of more than 37,000 fans. That is incredible. Women's soccer has always had limited appeal in North America and parts of Europe but has been massively under funded and under attended and underappreciated in Latin American countries. This is huge.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||June 8, 2022 5:42 AM|
No one in Europe goes and pays to see women's soccer (football). Who are we kidding?
|by Anonymous||reply 58||June 8, 2022 6:54 AM|
Spain's national teams also announced an equal pay agreement between the Men's and Women's teams
|by Anonymous||reply 59||June 23, 2022 4:06 AM|
and the Netherlands too
|by Anonymous||reply 60||June 23, 2022 4:07 AM|
That’s great news! I’m hoping more countries will follow.
The USSF always argued that women didn’t pull in as many fans, but they refused to release the numbers on how much they spent on mens vs. womens marketing. I strongly suspect the numbers were vastly different.
In 2019, they somehow “accidentally” scheduled the women’s FIFA US vs. Netherlands world final match on the same day as the men’s gold cup final match and Copa America cup final. Guess who had the more prime time slots and who played at 11 a.m. Eastern (I had to wake up at 7 am to watch the women’s final on my coast!). It was RIDICULOUS that they didn’t put a winning US team in prime time in the evening for all of USA to watch and I’m pretty sure they purposely scheduled them in the same day as a “fuck you!” To womens soccer.
Just spend the money on women and people will come. Give them a chance.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||June 23, 2022 5:46 AM|
Lioness lesbian Leah Williamson can step on me honestly
|by Anonymous||reply 62||June 23, 2022 2:20 PM|
Women players pull no punches and i love that for them
|by Anonymous||reply 63||June 23, 2022 7:10 PM|
Christ, r63, that was the most boring video I've ever seen. That's what you call pulling no punches? I've seen Peewee football games with more fire. There's a reason why soccer never took off in America. It's boring 😴
|by Anonymous||reply 64||June 23, 2022 7:39 PM|
R64 we're talking verbals, banter, stick, mate.
Not everything is about physical violence, or needs to be. But you enjoy your backyard lighttube wrestling, or whatever.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||June 23, 2022 7:48 PM|
SOCCER IS BORING ENOUGH, WITH HOT GUYS. NO ONE IS GOING TO WATCH A BUNCH OF DYKES KICKING A BALL.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||June 23, 2022 7:52 PM|
Yep, and the trash talk is weak as hell too, r65. Your average men's basketball game has better trash talk than that. And don't get me started on men's pro wrestling. What a dull game. You Eurotrash can have it.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||June 23, 2022 9:15 PM|
What might happen if they lower the men’s soccer pay downwards?
|by Anonymous||reply 68||June 24, 2022 12:10 PM|
I’m r68. Did not mean to be facetious since reading some assholes earlier replies going backward from latest to earlier remarks. You need to be sure to cover all deplorable tactics the owners of teams might pull out of the bag. Someone needs to look further into this scenario because equal pay alone may not mean more pay if they lower US Mens pay. There is no Good Faith adherence these days. Have some lawyer close up this loophole NOW!
|by Anonymous||reply 69||June 24, 2022 12:16 PM|
Also, I donut follow Women’s soccer too closely - or not too much into soccer as a whole.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||June 24, 2022 12:20 PM|
Shit! …do not follow…
|by Anonymous||reply 71||June 24, 2022 12:21 PM|
FUCK OFF, YOU QUEENS and White Supremacist faggot assholes. Please feel free to merge yourselves with the abhorrent MAGAT Neanderthals! Women will be the only ones to save your sorry asses when the Christofascist Pukes come after you. Don’t forget.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||June 24, 2022 12:26 PM|
Meant to include incels as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||June 24, 2022 12:28 PM|
I am so excited about the women's Euros coming up. It should be a fantastic tournament
|by Anonymous||reply 74||June 24, 2022 12:59 PM|
[quote] Women will be the only ones to save your sorry asses when the Christofascist Pukes come after you.
Uh, no we won't.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||June 24, 2022 1:08 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 76||June 24, 2022 1:31 PM|
I would watch it if they let CR7 play in a sportsbra.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||June 24, 2022 1:33 PM|