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Lisa was robbed of a second Oscar

Her performance in Stepping Out was legendary.

The nomination for Bette Midler's ridiculous performance in For The Boys should have gone to Liza. She would have gained momentum and won the gold.

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by Anonymousreply 56April 26, 2022 2:05 AM

LIZA! Fucking auto correct.

by Anonymousreply 1April 24, 2022 4:39 AM

[quote] LIZA! Fucking auto correct.

Liza with an "Esh".

by Anonymousreply 2April 24, 2022 4:40 AM

Poor Lisa

by Anonymousreply 3April 24, 2022 4:56 AM

Lisa Kudrow was robbed of a second Oscar? When?

by Anonymousreply 4April 24, 2022 4:58 AM

It's LIZA with a Z, not Lisha with an sh!!!!

by Anonymousreply 5April 24, 2022 5:00 AM

We felt it was just too soon to forgiver her for "Rent-a-Cop."

by Anonymousreply 6April 24, 2022 5:24 AM

I wonder if during this interview she could have even dreamed of one day giving such an Oscar-deseriving performance?

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by Anonymousreply 7April 24, 2022 5:25 AM

Warren Beatty was pushing his new wife Annette Bening for lead in Bugsy. The film hasn't aged well, but the AMPAS showered it with noms and she was arguably one of the best elements of the film (along with the costume/production design that glorious lighting, and a few of James Toback's zingers [i.e. "Why don't you go jerk yourself a soda?" which Bening delivered]). She got nominated by the Chicago critics and made it into the Drama Globe pool with the rest of the Oscar nominees sans Midler (who won in Comedy). I think Annette Bening would have gotten that fifth nomination if For the Boys was removed from the equation.

Midler didn't beat anyone competitive, so her win didn't have any extra value. The other nominees included Ellen Barkin in the poorly received Switch; Michelle Pfeiffer in the understated Frankie and Johnny; Kathy Bates in Fried Green Tomatoes (who was great, but more part of a female ensemble and had already just received Oscar glory the previous year); and I don't think--though fantastic--Angelica Huston had much chance winning the Globe as Morticia Addams back in 1991 (though, they did nominate her again two years later for the same role). They probably viewed Huston as "respectable filler" (even though, again, she was fantastic and would have been worthy of the win). But had any of those other ladies won, they would have had a tough time breaking into main competition (maybe Bates might have?). Midler's Globe win fueled her campaign and got her to squeeze into the Oscar race weeks later when nominations were announced. In some ways, Bening was snubbed.

That being said, had Bening been campaigned in supporting, there's a good chance she'd have at least one Oscar by now. Her Virginia Hill is a really smashing performance, and considered the nomination count (10), the key categories it got in (Picture, Director, Screenplay, multiple acting), and how great Bening was, I think there's an argument to be made she would have beat Mercedes Ruehl (who was also good).

I'm not sure how being "a supporting Oscar winner" would have impacted her career. It was pretty challenging being a lead actress in the 1990s. The roles just weren't that numerous. And, at that point, she had already dropped out of Batman Returns due to pregnancy. Her return to film after that was Love Affair, which she would have gotten cast in anyway, due to Beatty's involvement (if it went forward). The only 1990s film where she drove the plot (or, was the true lead) was In Dreams years later (which was unfortunately a mess).

by Anonymousreply 8April 24, 2022 6:07 AM

R8 shays a lot of fanshy wordsh but doesh’nt even mentshion yoursh truly.

by Anonymousreply 9April 24, 2022 1:39 PM

Who’s Lisa?

by Anonymousreply 10April 24, 2022 10:21 PM

Nettie Bening should have won for Being Julia.

by Anonymousreply 11April 24, 2022 10:46 PM

For Stepping Out? Is this a joke?

by Anonymousreply 12April 24, 2022 11:05 PM

I’ve actually never heard of Stepping Out

by Anonymousreply 13April 24, 2022 11:06 PM

I've actually never heard of Jane Krakowski, Ellen Greene, Bill Irwin, Sheila McCarthy or Carol Woods.

by Anonymousreply 14April 24, 2022 11:12 PM

Stepping Out was shit. The only highlight was Liza’s solo dance number.

by Anonymousreply 15April 24, 2022 11:14 PM

Sholo - A Shtar Warsh Shtory

by Anonymousreply 16April 24, 2022 11:15 PM

Liza stepping out...

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by Anonymousreply 17April 24, 2022 11:20 PM

I think this is the film that destroyed her hips and knees. She worked so hard, and few years later had to get new hips. But it still left her wheelchair-bound in the end.

by Anonymousreply 18April 24, 2022 11:23 PM

Better quality...

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by Anonymousreply 19April 24, 2022 11:23 PM

Stepping Out isn't bad, but not Oscar-worthy. Andrea Martin and Shelley Winters also are good in it.

by Anonymousreply 20April 24, 2022 11:29 PM

Miss Minnelli is now rolling out, with my assistance.

by Anonymousreply 21April 24, 2022 11:32 PM

Whose baby did she lose?:

"Minnelli has no children; one pregnancy left her with a hiatal hernia as a result of the medical steps taken to try to save the baby."

by Anonymousreply 22April 24, 2022 11:42 PM

She lost mine when she was supposed to be babysitting them.

by Anonymousreply 23April 24, 2022 11:44 PM

OP, it's Liza with a Z, not Lisa with an S.

by Anonymousreply 24April 24, 2022 11:52 PM

Lisa...Lisa Minnuli!

by Anonymousreply 25April 25, 2022 12:21 AM

R22, she became pregnant when she was married to Jack Haley Jr.

by Anonymousreply 26April 25, 2022 12:32 AM

[quote]she became pregnant when she was married to Jack Haley Jr.

By whom?

by Anonymousreply 27April 25, 2022 12:57 AM

Bette couldn't compete with Jodie, Susan and Geena. If For the Boys were released in 1992, she would have stood a better chance of getting the oscar. 1992 was one of the weakest Best Actress oscar races on record.

Liza thought Shelley Winters would get an oscar nomination for Stepping Out. I believe she said this on either Donahue or Joan Rivers.

by Anonymousreply 28April 25, 2022 1:01 AM

I love Lishhhhha!

by Anonymousreply 29April 25, 2022 1:04 AM

Shtepping Out

by Anonymousreply 30April 25, 2022 1:06 AM

Liza's ruby slippers

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by Anonymousreply 31April 25, 2022 1:24 AM

R27, your guess is as good as mine.

by Anonymousreply 32April 25, 2022 1:28 AM

I loved Bette but FTB's was absolutely horrible. I drug my poor husband to see that dreck and it took him weeks to forgive me.

by Anonymousreply 33April 25, 2022 1:31 AM

Luis from Menudo?

Fucked that little habanero right up el mondongo.

by Anonymousreply 34April 25, 2022 1:35 AM

Drug?

by Anonymousreply 35April 25, 2022 1:36 AM

"I'm pregnant -- and I don't WANT TO BE!!!!"

by Anonymousreply 36April 25, 2022 2:17 AM

I remember that Liza went on every talk show she could to promote Stepping Out and they always showed the same clip from the movie - the clip was so bad and indicative of the entire movie which turned out to be a huge bomb and possibly the low point of her movie career. An Oscar???!!!

by Anonymousreply 37April 25, 2022 2:37 AM

[quote]Lisa was robbed of a second Oscar

Robbed? No shweetie, I acshully shtole sheveral of them from friendsh...

by Anonymousreply 38April 25, 2022 3:15 AM

Uhm, OP...hate to break it to you BUT...

Lisa with an ESS goes Ssssssss, not Zzzzzzzzzzz...

by Anonymousreply 39April 25, 2022 3:18 AM

She should've been supporting. And no one was gonna beat Jodie that year

by Anonymousreply 40April 25, 2022 3:18 AM

Shweeetie, do you have any of that wondaful powder that you shniff up your noshe?

by Anonymousreply 41April 25, 2022 3:21 AM

What need does Lizsha have for a shecond Oshcar?

by Anonymousreply 42April 25, 2022 3:22 AM

I’m not Lisa. My name is Julie…besides, it was a damn made for TV movie!

by Anonymousreply 43April 25, 2022 3:48 AM

Lorna Minnelli would have cinched that Oscar spot!

by Anonymousreply 44April 25, 2022 3:51 AM

I’m Liza with a “Z” because Liza with an “S” spells “schnozz”!

by Anonymousreply 45April 25, 2022 3:52 AM

Please look at Julie Walters in that cat suit.

by Anonymousreply 46April 25, 2022 4:00 AM

[quote] I've actually never heard of Jane Krakowski, Ellen Greene, Bill Irwin, Sheila McCarthy or Carol Woods.

Well, THEY'VE never heard of YOU either!

by Anonymousreply 47April 25, 2022 4:06 AM

[quote]the low point of her movie career.

Someone hasn't seen Rent A Cop.

by Anonymousreply 48April 25, 2022 10:51 AM

I believe she hawked the movie on every talk show (02:05). Though I get the feeling that the film didn't turn out quite the way she'd hoped- a little too "TV movie".

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by Anonymousreply 49April 25, 2022 5:28 PM

[quote]Minnelli has no children

Her alleged child that was miscarried is probably very grateful LiZa was not her mother.

by Anonymousreply 50April 25, 2022 8:27 PM

[quote] is probably very grateful LiZa was not her mother.

Not anymore.

by Anonymousreply 51April 25, 2022 8:32 PM

Minnelli should have been nominated for Arthur. Dudley Moore and John Gielgud got the acclaim and awards, but Liza was the glue that held it all together.

And I go back and forth on New York, New York. A flawed masterpice.

by Anonymousreply 52April 25, 2022 9:52 PM

I dunno, R52, because it would have been in the SUPPORTING category.

by Anonymousreply 53April 25, 2022 11:42 PM

Who would you knock out of supporting actress that year to give Liza a spot? It was a pretty solid year in that category. Maybe Melinda Dillon?

by Anonymousreply 54April 26, 2022 12:02 AM

I would have campaigned harder for a Best Actress nod in the reboot, but I had church to attend.

by Anonymousreply 55April 26, 2022 1:58 AM

I love the idea of Liza Minnelli making Oscar predictions about Shelley Winters on the Donahue show.

These things don’t happen anymore. Say what you will about Liza, but had magic!

by Anonymousreply 56April 26, 2022 2:05 AM
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