Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman started 'shouting' at Biden's national security advisor re: Khashoggi murder

touchy lil thing, aint she?

Fuck this cunt.

And fucking Kushner, too.

Why do we indulge these useless cunts?

The Saudi Royal family? Really?

Just nuke their fucking asses and be done with it.

They don't tell US what to do. We tell THEM.

They have no power. We have ALL the power.

I hate to say it, but there is a reason some of the Trump people seemed to sometimes seem to break through with Middle Eastern leaders, where traditional Republicans and Democrats hadn't, because they were or acted crazy. We in the West view emotional restraint and detachment as being professional, they view it as weak. If you don't show emotion, especially anger and your temper, they think you stand for nothing. When they shout, you have to shout back. If they bang the table, you bang the table or flip it.

Basically, I think we would be better off with Middle Eastern diplomacy if our diplomats walked into any meeting with their Middle Eastern counterparts just like a real housewife walking out on the reunion special.

[quote] They have no power. We have ALL the power.

Not until we are fully energy independent.

They have the earl.

Wouldn't it be something if we could make what the Saudis and Putin and all of the rest of the oil oligarchs have worthless? Go buy an electric car.

I would have shouted: "YOU KILLED HIM IN COLD BLOOD! YOU MURDERED HIM!!! NOW ADMIT IT, YOU EVIL BASTARDS!!!! WE HAVE THE VIDEO!!!!"

Their mouths would have shut the fuck up in one second.

I do agree that a huge part of this is cultural. However, there is no way in hell Sullivan did not anticipate this outburst, I think it could have been part of a broader strategy to get MbS under control. And no, we do not have all the power, we are like junkies with our oil, we gotta get our fix and we will kill civilians to get it, like the good junkies we are.

Someone should choke that filthy bastard to death with that picnic tablecloth he wears on his head.

You shall be known by the company you keep.

Lol R9.

I wish.

Fucking cockroaches.

Does he have an Only Fans page?

This is what happens to people when they grow up with a golden spoon in their assholes while being told that they’re “special”. The world is full of people like him.

[Quote] Go buy an electric car.

Honest question: I live in an apartment complex in a "flyover" city, there are no charging stations in the complex, I only have seen a handful around the city at random CVS stores, so how do I manage that?

[quote] when the two men met for the first time since President Joe Biden took office.

Bumbling failure of diplomacy right off the bat. And ever after.

Murdering cunt.

R14, I’m not that poster, and I feel you.

Our coastal friends do not understand that every square of mile of the US is ready for electric — but that’s why Pete is working on our infrastructure. We are in a similar era to the US designing our grid system so that all rural citizens could have electricity. I bet the Fed will (eventually) force Midwestern apartment complexes to add a set number of charging ports based on their occupancy. New complexes should be required to offer charging, but there is almost no new construction going on right now.

[quote] Honest question: I live in an apartment complex in a "flyover" city, there are no charging stations in the complex, I only have seen a handful around the city at random CVS stores, so how do I manage that?

Maybe you could tell your elected officials and/or local businesses that there is a need in your community for charging stations. I'm R6--I wasn't trying to be snarky or a coastal elitist by saying that. Our way to not deal with murdering creeps like the Saudi royal family is to make oil worthless. The good news is that Ford is ramping up production of F150 electric trucks, which is the most popular vehicle type in the Flyover states.

And a need in your community to buy electric cars over three times more expensive than your old Toyota. Hope you have a job and lots of savings in the bank..

He has snake eyes. But that's what those people like: a psycho dictator.

I still think he'll be assassinated when his dad dies. MBS has pissed off A LOT of people used to getting their way.

Fuck this guy and the US military who played with him during our Middle East years. Haven't heard any of the generals who dealt with him speak against him.

[Quote] The US and other Western nations have pushed the kingdom to increase its production of crude oil to offset rising oil prices and squeeze Russia's ability to finance its war. But, The Journal reported, Saudi Arabia has refused to do so thus far and its interests remain aligned with Russia's.

Lay down with dogs and all that, enabling these fcuking terrorists. 911 wasn't even enough to cut these motherfuckers out of the picture. Let the little guy keep paying thru the ass though, right?

[quote] And a need in your community to buy electric cars over three times more expensive than your old Toyota. Hope you have a job and lots of savings in the bank..

Or we can just do nothing, keep paying $5-6 per gallon, getting involved with Saudi assholes, but above all else keep complaining about it all. Nobody said there would be change overnight, but you need to apply pressure to the industry and political leaders. We probably would've been driving electric vehicles if Dubya hadn't stolen the 2000 election.

Kneel before Zod!

Yeah, this guy isn't totally crazy.

[quote]Lay down with dogs and all that, enabling these fcuking terrorists. 911 wasn't even enough to cut these motherfuckers out of the picture. Let the little guy keep paying thru the ass though, right?

I fucking hate the Saudi Royal family and wish every last one of them would drop dead, but I don't think there's anything stupider than thinking the assholes invested in tons of American businesses and real estate are somehow involved in 9/11 just because they're Saudi. There's like a zillion relatives in that family and most of them are living in the west. They don't benefit in any way seeing their investments lost.

I think it was in one of the Bob Woodward books on Trump that he slipped in a paragraph about MBS being unreachable for a week because he was on a cocaine bender, and not the first time. Anyone else hear that?

The prince's nickname online is Prince Bonesaw.

Or R24 we can resume oil production in this country and provide jobs

You do realize that the Biden Administration is basically begging the oil companies to drill on leases that have ALREADY been approved R30, right? The bottom line is that the oil companies (not all of them Saudi) and OPEC don't want to spend the money to drill in new areas. They are making way more money right now by sitting back and doing nothing. It's not as simple as you're making it out to be.

Do we really have people who still believe the Saudis alone are responsible for the oil situation? It's adorable when people think the "All American" execs are "patriots" in times of crisis.

R30 is Sarah Palin.

r25 I caught that little 'curtsy' Trump did after the bow.

Trump is well versed in the protocols of receiving awards. Ask Rosa Parks or Mahammed Ali.

The Saudis will return to the sand. They are savages and good for one thing. We shouldn't engage with them anymore than we have too.

R36, don't be daft. A lot of them are actually very smart investors at this point. Your stereotypes don't translate into reality. It only reveals how provincial you are.

[quote]I do agree that a huge part of this is cultural. However, there is no way in hell Sullivan did not anticipate this outburst, I think it could have been part of a broader strategy to get MbS under control.

I was kind of thinking this too; what was the point of leaking this story? Biden's people get to show that the tried to hold MBS culpable and MBS gets to tell the world he told the US/Biden to suck it. From a cultural perspective, I wonder if this is a way for everyone to "save face" while enabling MBS to turn up the spigot. He's paid off Jared/the Trumpies and now he owes them nothing for whatever he got from them (probably a lot) and now he can move on to the current US regime

R38, there's a story that the Kushner -being the anti-American filth that he is- gave intelligence to MBS regarding one of his relatives who was supposed to be the actual crown prince. He was a CIA asset. Now, no one knows where he is. MBS imprisoned him and he hasn't been heard from since.

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R31 Because they do not trust that the administration will not strip it away as soon as the crisis is averted. If the GOP wins in November the oil companies might start drilling.

^ That's BS and you know it R41. The drilling leases are there, the oil companies don't want to spend the money on it. Unless their customers stop using gas, and that's not going to happen. They have us over a barrel (pun intended), that's why we need to transition away from oil and gas.

R31 nothing is simple, but it is an obvious solution. Where are our leaders?

[quote] The drilling leases are there, the oil companies don't want to spend the money on it.

R42 The reason they don't want to spend the money on it, is because they don't believe they will have a true chance of recouping their investment.

R37 Nah. The Arab royal family sucks. Their lack of investment integrity when it comes to commercial real estate is legendary. Pedal your shit somewhere else.