Attention: This is NOT the fucking Pride Flag!

It’s ugly. But times have changed. Now the asexuals are demanding a stripe.

This is the new flag... as much as we hate it. I can see sometime in the future you being 'cancelled' if you still don the old rainbow flag. So very sad.

Jeez, Shutterstock really would bleed you dry, given half the chance.

I know I was sick and tired of all the purple and green people getting representation and not me!

So don't fly that flag. Problem solved.

I totally FUCKING agree with you!!! Rainbows have no "black& brown colors" in it. When it does...I fly the new flag. I've yelled at enough queer trans peoples. "not everyone gets a trophy...deal with it"!!

When I see that flag, I don't feel pride. I feel sad knowing how dumb this world has gotten. The rainbow represents us all. By adding colors shows how ignorant people are. Shame not Pride

So we have to look at few more colors pasted onto the back of some dyke's Subaru. Big deal.

I for one couldn't give a damn about this flag one way or the other. But what's more concerning is the way that so many of you are essentially gatekeeping queerness for everyone else. You think the flag belongs to you and your approved queer peers, but no one else. It can't be changed, or loosened up, or evolved along with human sexuality. It's your way or the highway.

A lot of you are becoming your dick fathers, and you don't even realize it.

It's ugly. The original was such a clean, simple design and looked good.

I'm spinning in my grave.

Blacks fuck up everything. They made this shit in Philly.

Racist.

This flag is okay to represent everyone, but it shouldn’t replace the rainbow flag for LGB..

R8 just proved my point in R7

R 11 is not lying about the situation about the PhillyPride parade. These clueless men& women(or whatever) have fucked up the parade and have no idea how to organize one.

R15 Plenty of younglings avoid Pride altogether. Between the cheesy corporate sponsorship, the pointless and obnoxious elders who either guilt you for being young or berate you for being less bigoted than they are, and the fact that most of us have more social acceptance/visibility than in generations past, it's really not a draw anymore.

We also have no interest in learning about pride and universal love from a crop of (mostly gay men) who clearly forgot those concepts a long time ago.

The old one is nicer looking. But R16 has a good point - it's become over-exposed and co-opted by numerous corporations.

I wouldn't fly the new one though. I have taste.

trans can get their own damn flag. Ts having nothing to do with whether or not your LGB

In a way, it's a perfect emblem of our current experience as gay people: the TQ+ crowd coming in from the far left colonizing our space.

R19 In other words, now that you've got safety and acceptance, it's time to shut the door on the next crop of outcasts?

You're supposed to know how it feels to be rejected, mistrusted, hurt, called horrendous names, etc. by the Christian Right. You're supposed to know how it feels to be born different and constantly told you're broken and perverted and doomed. You're supposed to have empathy for other outcasts.

Guess not.

If it's being changed to include representations of skin color, then there needs to be a white stripe in it.

I'm with you R20. Too many people here appropriating the word "colonizing", despite how offensive that is to native peoples.

All because people are trying desperately to pull the ladder up behind them even though the GOP are so obviously trying to knock gays off it.

Having separate movements for different causes is not discriminatory. Everything doesn’t have to be lumped together. You can be a gay feminist who supports racial justice without having it all in one big organization. That dilutes the specific issues of the various groups.

I hate ALL flags, and ALL parades. I said it so what.

I hate how gay life has been co-opted by every fucking disordered freak under the sun who have nothing in common with homosexuality.

r20, given that the next "crop of outcasts" are choosing this -- many of them are just str8 people larping as oppressed -- or whose battles don't align at all with the experience of gay men and lesbians -- trans has nothing to with sexual orientation -- it's not that I'm shutting the door, it's that there's not a door there at all. The TQ+ crowd is just blasting a hole in the wall demanding to come in. Like colonizers.

R26 You're still deciding for yourself what qualifies as fit for your little group. You're still gatekeeping. You don't understand these people, and you don't seem to empathize with their legal or social struggle. In fact, you seem to think they're a joke.

You're pretty damn lucky the people who came before you didn't treat you this way when you were the one looking for acceptance and equality under the law. They could've laughed at your queer ass, dismissed your demands as "larping," and insisted your gayness was your own choice and your own fault. But they didn't do that to you, and you owe a big part of your freedom to their openness to helping you.

Now it's your turn, asshole. Someone else needs your help. Are you going to be a mocking bigot, or are you going to reach down into the space where your heart used to be and remember how it feels to be stepped on?

Ugly fat girls who can't get laid, with pink hair and multiple piercings, screeching about microaggressions.

The amount of Photoshopped toothpaste flags and attempts at recognizing microidentities is partly why our acceptance rate is going on the downswing.

R27 The gay rights movement did not insist that NAACP change to NAACPGLB to include them in the civil rights movement. They started a group that represented themselves. Was that wrong?

R27, until they can give me a valid reason for inclusion, they're on their own.

It's the same as people wanting to come to the United States: sure, the tired and poor can come to our nation, but the price of citizenship (inclusion) is you agree with the political philosophy that underlines our founding documents -- representative democracy, freedom of/from religion, freedom of speech, etc.

Therefore, if you want to be part of the gay/lesbian community, you don't go around calling us bigots for our sexual desires, you don't go around attempting to indoctrinate gay/lesbian youth into putting chemicals into their bodies or chopping off parts of their bodies, you don't go around attempting to rewrite our history, etc.

Gay men and lesbians tried to be accepting and tolerant, opening up our organizations to the TQ+ crowd, but the only response we've gotten from them is shitting on our culture and history and medicalizing our youth. I've had it, and I will fight against this insidious group of people to my last breath, just as I fought against the religious right for decades.

That's not a gay pride flag, it's an LGBTQ+ pride flag.

The rainbow flag was perfect because it represents “all the colors”… and that means *everyone*. Roy G. Biv folks. Once you try to find a color for every subset of humanity, you enter a death spiral that can never be satiated.

I've always hated the gay rainbow flag and it's not even a self hate issue. I thought it was but after the work I was like naw, I just am not a rainbow person and people picked that for me. WHERE WAS THE VOTE? WHO CHOSE? Not fucking me.

What's wrong with the old flag? I always felt it perfectly represented me.

Are they going to add space for advertisements? I would like to see an Arby’s logo on there.

Don't even joke about that R36, I could see that happening in 2 years. And it would be Arbys or Taco Bell or the worst shit ever. Since it's a corporation now. That nobody even voted for. Someone extra was like "Let's just do the rainbow and it's fine" and here we are 50 years later.

I'm not reading your psycho babble rant about a flag. No one is forcing you to use it, and the original flag is still used by the majority of LGBT so put a sock in it.

Just another divisive thread started by terf/right wing trolls so they can whine endlessly about trans.

[Quote]When I see that flag, I don't feel pride.

MARY!!!

This is a lot of emotion over a damn flag having a few extra colors. I can't.

There is already a trans flag. In fact I think there are dozens.

Can't we just once have something that's just for the lesbians and gay men? If you're lesbian or gay and trans you're included.

Who the hell decides this stuff anyway? I didn't get a memo asking me to vote on it.

It’s the Intersectional Pride flag that represents social activism. I suppose it has its place. IMHO It does not and should not replace the already inclusive Rainbow flag.

The white on the new flag doesn't represent white people which surprised me. There's zero representation for whitey on the new flag.

R1- and the NON binaries

Lesbians always get first billing with LGBT. Gays include male and female. And why are BI and Trans allowed to attach themselves?

OP - I was just in Portland, ME. I swear that stupid flag was hanging outside EVERY business. It was overkill. Curious -If it’s so backwoods why do you live there?

I truley believe that people have been brought up and educated to make them dumb cows. They are too stupid to understand a symbol.

BUT I AM NOT IN THIS FLAG!

Yes you are, the rainbow is a symbol. It symbolizes EVERYONE.

BUT I AM NOT IN THIS SYMBOL!!

And I truly misspelled truly!!

[quote]But what's more concerning is the way that so many of you are essentially gatekeeping queerness for everyone else.

“Gatekeeping queerness” Give me a fucking break.

You’re fucking right we’re gatekeeping every asshole appropriating our community and our movement. Straights, trans, furries, asexuals, zoos and pedos have all tried to muscle their way in— NO.

Gay = same sex attracted. That’s it.

OP has stated her boundaries!

LET YOUR FREAK FLAG FLY!

well I never minded bi's in the gay movement. But did we need absolutely heterosexual "queers"? No we did not.

The end game

Oh, you poor fragile flowers! Waaaahhhh. Mommy, they’ve changed the gay flag! However will we cope???

Go dilate r54!

The rainbow flag included everybody because the colors represent everybody. The new flag is ugly as shit and if it doesn't make you want to hurl you have shit for taste like dickhead R54.

But it wasn't inclusive enough we're now being told because fuckwads have no idea that rainbow colors are all colors. We fucked ourselves over by including the T. And now we are paying for it bigtime which is why this new flag represents the assholery of extremist leftists which in terms of vocal stridency has overtaken the leftist movement. It's too late for the left to get its shit together because most people have been asleep. We've got superannuated people in government because they can't let their power go assuring a conservative majority in the Supreme Court, a president ready for a nursing home, guys swinging their dicks and balls about claiming they are women and others justifying theft because it is due to oppression. Yeah this all makes sense.

[quote]You're pretty damn lucky the people who came before you didn't treat you this way when you were the one looking for acceptance and equality under the law. They could've laughed at your queer ass, dismissed your demands as "larping," and insisted your gayness was your own choice and your own fault. But they didn't do that to you, and you owe a big part of your freedom to their openness to helping you.

And who do you suppose are "the people who came before (us)," r27? AFAICR, they were other, older gay men and women, not some other species on whom we were parasiting. The people who "came before" me did not believe my gayness was my own choice, or any of the rest that unhappy horseshit you're slinging. They were people like me, not people who could not accept that they were like me.

As for the flag, the visual image that comes to my mind is that of the powder pink / baby blue / brown / black set fucking us gays and lesbians up the ass, probably sans lube.

Gender-fluid, homeless, shop-lifting, people of color need a stripe!

Way to destroy a design. It does look like as someone already said as if they're fucking us up in the ass and not in a good way.

If Trans POC had actually been in charge of the gay rights movement, homosexuality would still be illegal.

I know the guy who designed the new flag. He goes by the name "Daniel Quasar" and he lives in Portland, OR.

He/Him, or they/them/bunself, R61?

Daniel Quasar" seems to not quite have figured out this "growing a beard" thing

R60, it'll be illegal again if you keep carrying water for the GOP.

r64 you can STFU. Nobody said anything about the GOP. Just that mentally ill basket cases aren't the best representatives.

You can STFU yourself, asshole, R65. You're doing the GOP's work for them. You fucking suck.

Its greatest sin, as far as I’m concerned, is that the new design is so *jarring* and displeasing, from an aesthetic pov

And I thought we gays’re supposed to have great taste, especially when it comes to visual stuff

I’m sorry, but is the designer at r63 a biological boy? I can’t tell anymore

I could understand better if he were a trans male…

Those who dislike this flag are not necessarily "carrying water for the GOP." Both the aesthetics and the spirit behind this flag are inherently dislikable. There were already numerous trans pride flags, and the rainbow as it existed already included people of all colors.

So the flag just [italic]had[/italic] to be redesigned to appeal to the younger demographics, yet at the same time these same demographics don't give a crap about Pride anyway partly due to gatekeeping eldergays (as noted by R16).

Am I getting this right?

the designer of this flag belongs in the same category as Lance Bass they both look like insects

[quote]But what's more concerning is the way that so many of you are essentially gatekeeping queerness for everyone else.

We're not "gatekeeping queerness" because we're not queer, we're gays and lesbians.

We've been told we're no longer allowed to be gays and lesbians. Instead, we've been subsumed into this larger group, queers, who share some of our goals and concerns but definitely not all of them, and that if we don't like it, we need to shut up. (Although secretly the queers are just waiting for the gays and lesbians to die off and this problem will go away.)

[quote] Once you try to find a color for every subset of humanity, you enter a death spiral that can never be satiated.

The Intersectional Pride Flag is an insatiable bottom.

This new flag is not a "design" in any traditional sense of the word design. It's an abomination.

It's got a Nascar vibe. Tacky.

The original pride flag was meant to represent “everyone under the rainbow” — and the T cult already has its own flag. This repugnant addition was unnecessary and betrays the Ts relentless desire to dominate and usurp the LGB movement.

On the plus side, it serves as a flashing sign, indicating to sane people that the person flying or wearing this monstrosity is delusional and best to be avoided.

It does look like something from a Tasteful Friends thread.

Looks like something from an addled mind. And FUG!

[quote] "Daniel Quasar" seems to not quite have figured out this "growing a beard" thing

He seems to be going for the Shaggy-from-"Scooby-Doo" look.

R39, blocked for being an insipid cult follower without an original thought in *their* head.

[quote]And I thought we gays’re supposed to have great taste, especially when it comes to visual stuff

We do, R67, but the troons have trojan horse’d our movement. Might as well ask a schizophrenic to explain what reality is.

I choose to stick with the rainbow flag. people fly whatever they want. I have other flags too depicting my partners sports teams. You do you. I'll do me and I'm not flying that ugly flag.

I hear they're adding another stripe for people who once considered beating up a faggot but restrained because it might interfere with getting into the college of their choice.

What color stripe is attack helicopter?

I am not against anyone in the alphabet soup, but I often wonder if gays and lesbians are the first minority group to just cede control of their own movement to everyone but gays and lesbians.

If Datalounge has taught me anything, R85, it's that if you're gay and you put your own interests above anyone else in the alphabet soup at any time, you're considered "elitist" and "part of the gay Taliban".

"dyke's Subaru" "gatekeeping queerness" "queer"

r8 can go fuck zirself along with r38/r39

What is “queerness”? Is it different from homosexuality?

It's for people who don't want to do the icky things with someone of the same sex's genitals but want to be 'edgy'.

No, it’s not OP.

The current one includes the Crescent Moon to show our solidarity with marginalized Muslim folx.

Yes, that fugly white gay creator above of this abomination of a new flag is indeed a XY male and has a classic "woke white gay douche bro, fervent lgbTQ+ cult member out of Portland" look, just like another douche Portland gay man who was doing his lgbTQ+ mansplaining at Wi Spa.

How many of the letters in the alphabet soup do gays and lesbian really have anything in common with? Maybe questioning, but don't most people know what gets them off by puberty. That is why I don't understand why we just let everybody in.

Can't we just "let in" anyone who's become the latest nonsense target of Christian conservatives?

It's not a crime to be a homo, or to be trans, and most people just want to work and fuck and shit in peace!

I've never seen an ugly rainbow in nature. This flag is unnatural. See the problem?

R94 So is ass-fucking. See the problem?

The guy in R63 s link. What the flying fuck? A celestial object masquerading as a human? What kind of megalomania does this “thing” have? Can people just be people?

Not every gay man ass-fucks R95.

And nice lesbian erasure (again!)

Cut out the triangle. Turn flag upside town with the two points out. - hang it that way. There's the Pride flag corrected.

God I hate the trannies, they have ruined everything and need to be stamped out.

This new Pride flag is simply representative of the Queer Community as a whole: pointless, ugly, fucked up, and stupid.

I don't even blame the trannies for this one, R99. I blame the YASSSS KWEEEEN gays, like the creator of this monstrosity of a flag, who seem to have a constant and contentious relationship with their own maleness.

Of course he has to be from Portland, and I also thought of Mustache Man from the Wi Spa, R91. What is with that city and its gays there? Seattle is not as bad; I've been to both cities several times.

I hope this is the end of the rainbow flag. Hated it. Dumb and no design sense.

So will there soon come a point when flying the original Pride flag will be akin to flying a Confederate Flag?

R103 There will become a point where it is declared literal violence and responsible for the suicide of millions of trans a day.

r104 the tragic thing is I can actually see that happening, joking aside.

If the Lesbian & Gay Alliance can be tarred as a 'hate group' for working on things that are of concern to lesbians and gay men, then sure any flag that 'excludes' the trans will be declared offensive.

What’s wrong with Portland Maine?

What about religious minorities? Can we add a Star of David and a Crescent & Star to the flag? Not having those there is the kind of literal violence that I find extremely triggering.

This one’s nice!

R109 - you wait! That'll become THE flag soon.

I for one welcome my Jamaican overlords.

R112 Only went to Jamaica to present hole

The gay community has any number of attached barnacles these days.

I thought people had been ass fucking since the beginning of time.

What make you think they haven't, r115?

[quote]You're still deciding for yourself what qualifies as fit for your little group. You're still gatekeeping.

Yes, groups get to decide their own membership criteria. That’s the definition of a group.

I was referring to the poster who said ass fucking is not normal.