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Coronavirus Megathread 14: The B Side

Where we ponder the various sub variants and how many language’s letters can go into a virus’s name.

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by Anonymousreply 249June 27, 2022 5:14 PM

Link to previous thread.

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by Anonymousreply 1April 18, 2022 4:30 PM

Thanks Lez!

I rarely talk about COVID these days. It's not that I want to think it no longer poses a threat, but it's just that I find that I can live my life just fine with the minor inconvenience of wearing a mask aboard planes and public transport. Shaking hands, hugging friends, standing close to someone.. it just doesn't feel weird anymore.

I think being vaccinated and boosted, together with the much milder Omicron variant (compared to the original virus of early 2020) puts one more at ease.

Still looking forward to the day we can forego masks altogether, of course.

by Anonymousreply 2April 18, 2022 4:50 PM

Thank you ElderLez. Hope you and your wife had a pleasant Easter.

by Anonymousreply 3April 18, 2022 5:51 PM

Is anyone getting the 2nd booster? For all the other Covid shots I got them as soon as I was eligible but I haven't got the 2nd booster yet. I have not had Covid so I will eventually get the 2nd booster, I was just waiting a bit to see if they had to change it due to new variants.

by Anonymousreply 4April 18, 2022 9:21 PM

It was a lovely Easter R3. And my wife is Jewish so we got to celebrate (and eat, and eat) all weekend. I hope you had a nice Easter as well.

Dutchie, I have to think about COVID every day because of what I do IRL, but I feel the same way you do about just living my life with the addition of the mask aboard trains, in public restrooms etc. I will be happy to ditch masks altogether when we get to that point though. I hope we get an intranasal vaccine soon. I think that (plus Paxlovid and evusheld) will get us as a society back to blissfully coughing in public unmasked.

by Anonymousreply 5April 18, 2022 9:45 PM

My doctor told me that I could probably wait until Fall to get the 2nd booster, but I think I'll likely get it soon. I just need to schedule it to have a sick day afterwards since I've needed one after all my previous shots. Also, I'm considering getting Moderna this time to mix it up (previous 3 have been Pfizer).

Interesting in that in the past week or so, I'm starting to see more people with masks indoors again. Also, I picked up a new pair of eye glasses today and the office was requiring masks, and when I had my exam a few weeks ago, I don't think it was a requirement.

by Anonymousreply 6April 19, 2022 1:54 AM

No more mask mandates for travelers

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by Anonymousreply 7April 19, 2022 3:57 AM

Mandates dropped

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by Anonymousreply 8April 19, 2022 3:58 AM

Lez R5 That’s the first time I hear of an intranasal vaccine. I suppose many more vaccines could be administered that way?

Anti-vaxxers still won’t be persuaded, I’m afraid.

by Anonymousreply 9April 19, 2022 6:02 AM

All these assholes claiming we should live with COVID won't address the fact that means, for a huge number of people, living with Long COVID.

by Anonymousreply 10April 19, 2022 6:55 AM

I posted this on megathread 13, but here you go. The current vaccines are fabulous, but they leave the front door open.

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by Anonymousreply 11April 19, 2022 9:51 AM


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by Anonymousreply 12April 19, 2022 2:36 PM

This is a little tangential but if you are interested; General Accounting Office report on political interference at HHS agencies.

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by Anonymousreply 13April 22, 2022 3:22 PM

Oy governmental accountability office not general accounting office.

There isn't a big enough "oh dear" in all the world for that.

by Anonymousreply 14April 22, 2022 3:24 PM

This seems like it is important and should be more widely known. Pulse oximeters three times more likely to give wrong results in black people than white people.

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by Anonymousreply 15April 22, 2022 3:30 PM

That’s a recurring theme with many, many devices - both medical and non-medical: The test groups are often comprised of only/mostly white people.

by Anonymousreply 16April 22, 2022 5:53 PM

Time Magazine:

Two recent case studies highlight how unpredictable the virus that causes COVID-19 can be. The first describes a 31-year-old fully vaccinated and boosted health care worker in Spain who tested positive for the Omicron variant just 20 days after being infected by Delta, in what’s thought to be the shortest documented time between COVID-19 cases.

The second details what’s believed to be the longest active COVID-19 infection doctors have seen yet: an immunocompromised patient in the U.K. had a case lasting 505 days. While both cases are extreme outliers, they highlight how much researchers still have to learn about the virus.

by Anonymousreply 17April 22, 2022 8:41 PM

Yeah, R16, it's racist that white skin is more transparent.

by Anonymousreply 18April 23, 2022 12:28 AM

Nice little twist of what I was going for, R18.

by Anonymousreply 19April 23, 2022 8:53 AM

If all medical devices were sized for petite women because all of the test groups were drawn from women shopping for size five shoes I’d be thrilled and the rest of you’d be at increased risk of death. And of course what would allow such silliness to occur other than bias?

R18 unless you were in charge of recruitment for the oximeter trials I don’t understand why you are acting so defensive. Medical devices should give accurate results for all users and if they don’t they need to be fixed. And while they are being fixed providers need to know that the results are more likely to be wrong for certain groups. Pulse oximeter readings are often used to determine whether or not to hospitalize someone and whether to provide other medical treatments. And that can determine whether someone lives or not. A human life outweighs whatever culture war nonsense about don’t say race is being pushed at the moment.

by Anonymousreply 20April 23, 2022 10:07 AM

Information about sub variants with an emphasis on BA.4 and BA.5.

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by Anonymousreply 21April 24, 2022 10:48 AM

I've been very careful, though not perfect for over two years, isolating, masking and social distancing. I guess I was COVID weary, and sure as shit when I was careless in a crowd 3 weeks ago, I got it. I'm double vaxxed and had one booster. Let me tell you, you don't want to get this. It knocked me on my butt with body aches, extreme fatigue, sore throat and a hacking cough. I still haven't completely recovered. I guess I'm lucky that I didn't get the original variant and was vaxxed. Still, you don't want to get this.

by Anonymousreply 22April 24, 2022 12:05 PM

Hope you feel better, R22.

It isn't done with us, even if we are done with it. A sobering message from you.

by Anonymousreply 23April 24, 2022 12:17 PM

from ElderLez's link about the sub variants: studying whether lineages BA.4 and BA.5 escape immunity from COVID-19 vaccines and previous infections.

That's what really concerns me. And that I cannot get a 2nd booster because I am too young. Probably the last time I will whine about being too young for something in my lifetime.

by Anonymousreply 24April 24, 2022 12:19 PM

My 54 year old colleague double vaxxed, single booster, got it 3 weeks ago. She’s still a mess, migraines, can’t remember words on team calls and lost her voice. She is worried about long term cognitive effects. Get double boosted if you can even if it lessens severity a little it’s worth it.

by Anonymousreply 25April 24, 2022 12:36 PM

There is a chartable uptick today in the Mayo Clinic's numbers, even as they've made it harder to see any trends. at the moment, the only state not on the East Coast with higher numbers is Colorado.

by Anonymousreply 26April 24, 2022 12:39 PM

The adagio here is that a 4th shot (2nd booster) won't do anything for the <40 crowd, but it's recommended for those working healthcare, or the elderly / those with a compromised immune system.

It's been 4 months to the day since I had my booster. Summer will probably be relatively tame again, but I just wonder if it would still make sense for me to get that 4th shot in, say, September/October — almost a year after the 3rd jab.

by Anonymousreply 27April 24, 2022 4:57 PM


Not adagio.

by Anonymousreply 28April 24, 2022 4:57 PM

RE my link at R13 I’ve read the detailed portion of the report now and it is fascinating that they had no cooperation from CBER staff at the FDA (biologics so the group that oversaw the monoclonal antibodies I think) and that most FDA staff who did cooperate wanted a lawyer present.

by Anonymousreply 29April 25, 2022 9:45 PM

[quote] I went into it thinking that [the risk] was going to be most pronounced and evident in people who smoked a lot or had diabetes, heart disease, kidney disease, or some [other] risk factors. What we found is that even in people who did not have any heart problems start with, were athletic, did not have a high BMI, were not obese, did not smoke, did not have kidney disease or diabetes—even in people who were previously healthy and had no risk factors or problems with the heart—COVID-19 affected them in such a way that manifested the higher risk of heart problems than people who did not get COVID-19.

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by Anonymousreply 30April 26, 2022 2:24 PM


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by Anonymousreply 31April 26, 2022 10:02 PM

ElderLez What do you make of the Hepatitis cases in children? Do you believe it could be co-infection with an Adenovirus+a Covid strain? Some interesting theories floating around...especially the one that we may be witnessing a mutated new strain of Adenovirus.

by Anonymousreply 32April 27, 2022 1:08 AM

I don’t know enough yet to have an opinion R32.

by Anonymousreply 33April 28, 2022 12:20 PM

[quote] Some interesting theories floating around...especially the one that we may be witnessing a mutated new strain of Adenovirus.

Laurie Garrett: Just did an interview with the BBC about this. Less than half the sick children have tested + for #adenovirus 41, so while it may be correlated, it's by no means proven to be causative. With 1 child dead & at least 17 needing liver transplants, this is an urgent mystery.

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by Anonymousreply 34April 28, 2022 12:33 PM

[quote]I don’t know enough yet to have an opinion [R32]

Wait, isn't this DataLounge?


by Anonymousreply 35April 28, 2022 12:45 PM

That's one of the reasons Elderlez has a fan club, but I thought the same thing, R35.

by Anonymousreply 36April 28, 2022 2:53 PM

ElderLez works in mysterious ways, R35.

by Anonymousreply 37April 28, 2022 7:37 PM

Her wonders to perform.

by Anonymousreply 38April 28, 2022 8:04 PM

Somewhat tangential, but I expect some posters will be interested. (NEIDL!) I missed about 40 minutes in the middle myself because of an overlapping meeting and am looking forward to seeing what I missed.

R32 sorry I took so long to respond. In my mind I had answered you, but apparently my fingers didn’t get the message.

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by Anonymousreply 39April 28, 2022 9:52 PM

The Guy Injecting Urine for COVID Has Been Arrested

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by Anonymousreply 40April 30, 2022 11:06 PM

Cases going up. Next week should be interesting.

by Anonymousreply 41May 1, 2022 3:25 AM

Going up, and up, and up thanks to the unvaxxed and the unmasked. Fuck them both.

by Anonymousreply 42May 1, 2022 5:00 AM

I tested positive for covid 2 days ago. I had symptoms and did a self-test. fever and chills and sore throat (a little) so far.

Does anyone know how soon after I recover will I be able to go the dentist?

by Anonymousreply 43May 1, 2022 7:28 PM

R43 once you test NEGATIVE two days in a row, you should be fine to see the dentist. Add another day if you want to be extra safe.

by Anonymousreply 44May 1, 2022 8:00 PM

And, at least tell the dentist if you do go. I mean, can't you just wait a couple weeks to be sure not to pass anything along? Of course, you probably caught it because you weren't wearing a mask when around other people, so you probably don't care that much.

by Anonymousreply 45May 1, 2022 8:40 PM

Cheer ElderLez, no rush. It's very mysterious, and widespread. Whatever it may be, I wonder if adults are infected/affected by it, yet we don't develop the Hepatitis?

by Anonymousreply 46May 2, 2022 6:13 AM

R44, thank you for the info.

by Anonymousreply 47May 2, 2022 6:30 AM

“According to the White House, there are now more than 2,000 test-to-treat locations around the country where people can get tested for COVID-19 and, if a prescriber says they need it, [bold]immediately get antiviral pills. COVID.gov has a new locator tool,[/bold] making it easier to find these services quickly.

"The nation's medicine cabinet is full of effective treatments, we have free at-home tests, high quality masks, vaccines and boosters all available, so the website brings all these tools together and makes it convenient,"

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by Anonymousreply 48May 2, 2022 6:45 AM

[quote]immediately get antiviral pills. COVID.gov has a new locator tool, making it easier to find these services quickly.

Just searched my county. There are two test-to-treat locations within 60 miles. Don't know that I'd consider that "easy" for people who don't have regular doctors.

by Anonymousreply 49May 2, 2022 11:05 AM

Amazing that some of the highest infection rates in the country are in upstate rural NY state counties.

by Anonymousreply 50May 2, 2022 11:21 AM

It's that Troy bathhouse everyone on here is going to.

by Anonymousreply 51May 2, 2022 11:48 AM

I don't even know if there are numbers that would tell me how things are, really. It would seem there is a spike in motion right now, but since there are so many testing at home, and it has been declared over, who knows for sure.

I'd have to go 80 miles for the test and dose. I am hoping they get Paxlovid at a local pharmacy, but they have not yet. Rural NW.

by Anonymousreply 52May 2, 2022 12:46 PM

Should you get anti viral pills if you are not in high risk category?

by Anonymousreply 53May 2, 2022 1:05 PM

Found out last week that my co-worker's 1 year old grandbaby tested positive for Covid. Has had cold symptoms, so they got her tested. They've been babysitting and Grandma is positive (minor cold symptoms) and last I heard Grandpa is still negative. Looks like baby might have spread it to the grandma. The grandparents are in their 60, pretty sure they're vaccinated/boosted. Don't know about health state of the parents.

by Anonymousreply 54May 2, 2022 1:32 PM

I know you'll want to extend your thoughts and prayers to Michele Bachmann, who has been "struggling with COVID pretty severely lately."

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by Anonymousreply 55May 2, 2022 4:36 PM

And I would do just that if I gave a fuck.

by Anonymousreply 56May 2, 2022 5:00 PM

r49 & r52

The reason for the distance is that pharmacies must have a licensed health care provider on staff to prescribe (one stop, test to treatment). This is not as common in rural areas.

[bold]Test-to-Treat pharmacies are not the only way to get the medication[/bold]. If you have a regular doctor, call them first. Urgent care and your local community health clinic/department of health, next.

Essentially, what should be simple is cumbersome, due to overlapping regulations and agencies. There is work being done on these problems but am not sure where we stand on progress.

The linked locator will find your nearest community health center

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by Anonymousreply 57May 2, 2022 7:51 PM

To find out if medications to treat COVID-19 are right for you, you have options:

* Talk to your healthcare provider * Visit a test to treat location * Contact your local community health center or health department

Familiarize yourself with high-risk criteria so that, if the provider is hesitant to prescribe, you’ll be able to advocate for yourself.

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by Anonymousreply 58May 2, 2022 7:53 PM

The other covid thread has been paywalled (Covid IS big. It's the pictures that got small. ).

A very kind DLer posted the info for test and treat. I went to a CVS minute clinic earlier and got the drugs for free. I had the positive self test pic on my phone as proof. I am not immunocompromised so I don't think they were gonna give it to me at first. However, I smoked in the past so they gave it to me.

today is my fourth day. low grade fever, tired, a little cough with phlegm. felt like shit until I took advil.

by Anonymousreply 59May 2, 2022 8:58 PM

Oh, I’m so happy it worked out, r59! Wishing you a speedy recovery.

by Anonymousreply 60May 2, 2022 9:09 PM

Thank you R60! I love you!!!

by Anonymousreply 61May 2, 2022 9:11 PM

I love you, r61!

Everybody please see r48, r57, and r58 for info on how to get anti-virals. They’re plentiful and easy to get now!

by Anonymousreply 62May 2, 2022 9:16 PM

New York City raised its COVID alert level to medium on Monday as cases surpassed a rate of 200 per 100,000 people in the five boroughs. Manhattan and Staten Island, respectively, have the highest transmission rates per 100,000 residents, the latest health data show, but it's the first borough that is having a disproportionate impact on the city's overall rolling new case rate.

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by Anonymousreply 63May 2, 2022 9:29 PM

Despite so much enthusiasm for ditching the masks, after mandates are dissipating, on planes, transport, shops, etc... There still is good evidence that masking offers statistically significant protection from infection, even on airplanes. I was about to post this video in another thread which has become closed to me, but I hope those without [italic] strong political opinions [/italic] consider the message.

Some repeatedly claim due to the HEPA filtration, and the 50% covid-free high altitude air that they're not necessary. The following shows the benefit.

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by Anonymousreply 64May 3, 2022 10:22 AM

Thanks for whining and getting the other Covid thread paywalled. Cunt. Beyond sick of your shit.

by Anonymousreply 65May 3, 2022 11:03 AM

R65 Posting relevant medical information doesn't necessarily make me a cunt. Your reaction however to the SCIENCE is more than a bit disconcerting. There exists no HEPA filters on subway cars, hence my original point that masking helps in crowded spaces is entirely accurate. I don't fare to breathe your breath as it is, you toxic troll!

I had zero to do with having that thread closed. I'd only posted four times in a thread with over 300 replies, so stop being a child here.

by Anonymousreply 66May 3, 2022 11:30 AM

^care to

by Anonymousreply 67May 3, 2022 11:30 AM

Got the paxlovid too through my PCP because of a helpful person on the other covid thread. Starting it today.

by Anonymousreply 68May 3, 2022 11:55 AM

Hope it helps R68!

by Anonymousreply 69May 3, 2022 12:05 PM

R65 is obviously a newbie troll since those other threads have been getting paywalled regularly when they hit a certain number of posts for about two fucking years at this point.

Anyone else notice the "waaaaaah, masks take aways ma freedums" crowd has gone quiet as the cases skyrocket yet again? As predicted. Morons.

by Anonymousreply 70May 3, 2022 12:05 PM

[quote]Anyone else notice the "waaaaaah, masks take aways ma freedums" crowd has gone quiet as the cases skyrocket yet again?

No, one just started another thread to bash those concerned about covid.

by Anonymousreply 71May 3, 2022 12:16 PM

But, R71, they were endlessly posting one after the other on all the covid related threads. They are slowly going quiet. They've accomplished their Putin-assigned mission to get idiots to not wear a mask in the middle of a highly contagious pandemic. There work is done here since the idiots happily complied with their orders.

by Anonymousreply 72May 3, 2022 12:34 PM

R70 Cheers mate. Well sadly we still have an especially persistent one amongst us. I can't help but think of that Janis Joplin song "Freedom is just another word for nothin' left to lose"... or something like that...That attitude didn't work out too well for her in the end either. RIP Janis

Another way to easily spot these types is that they're both incessantly and inordinately angry. They say shite like we're not fully participating in life due to our masks, and that we ought to temain indoors, but they're deeply aggrieved there's scientific evidence posted in defence of masking. I'm certain he thinks Dr. Seheult is a cunt as well.

by Anonymousreply 73May 3, 2022 12:37 PM

R72 Four posts cretin. Try harder next time!

by Anonymousreply 74May 3, 2022 12:37 PM

R72 Sorry about my reply, thought the cretin was accusing me of dominating that thread again.

by Anonymousreply 75May 3, 2022 12:39 PM

I had to dump those side Covid threads and just stick to the main numbered ones because of all the bullshit on there from the anti-maskers. Same old troll crap. Not worth anyone's time. Let them get their jollies in those and leave this one to actual news.

by Anonymousreply 76May 3, 2022 2:32 PM

Another COVID thread deteriorates into a cat fight between two ancient dykes.

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by Anonymousreply 77May 3, 2022 3:02 PM


The b side to the b side.

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by Anonymousreply 78May 3, 2022 4:38 PM

Deep Cut!

by Anonymousreply 79May 3, 2022 6:14 PM

Yikes. Another reason to avoid Covid - and to get the Shingles vaccine.

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by Anonymousreply 80May 4, 2022 2:00 AM

Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) suggested in a recent interview that Covid vaccines “may” give people AIDS, but that more research on the matter is necessary. Johnson sat down with Todd Callender, whom the Wisconsin Examiner described as an anti-vaccine attorney.

Callender shared a wild theory with the senator: Covid shots are intentionally spreading HIV/AIDS to people who receive them. Callendar called the actions of the FDA “criminal,” and suggested action be taken against public health authorities.

Johnson replied, “You’ve gotta do one step at a time, everything you say may be true, but right now the public [wrongly] views the vaccines as largely safe and effective, that vaccine injuries are rare and mild.”

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by Anonymousreply 81May 4, 2022 2:19 AM

As of Friday, a total of 37 of 62 counties in New York fell under the high-risk category. Just two weeks ago, only 10 counties were “high risk,” according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidance.

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by Anonymousreply 82May 4, 2022 2:21 PM

Send in the clowns

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by Anonymousreply 83May 4, 2022 5:27 PM

Now I am going to be singing that song in my head all day.

by Anonymousreply 84May 4, 2022 5:33 PM

R83, well, of course

by Anonymousreply 85May 4, 2022 5:36 PM

New York City could bring back Covid mask mandate, vaccine checks if hospitals come under pressure .”

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by Anonymousreply 86May 5, 2022 2:57 PM

Suddenly, everyone I know who had avoided Covid are catching it, 5 in 2 cities, all vaxxed and boosted. I told them it wasn't over.

by Anonymousreply 87May 5, 2022 7:50 PM

[quote] New York City could bring back Covid mask mandate, vaccine checks if hospitals come under pressure .”

Yes, the CDC changes its mask guidance by making hospitalizations a big part of it. This means COVID is still spreading like wildfire but unless people get hospitalized, there will be no mask mandate.

by Anonymousreply 88May 5, 2022 7:54 PM

Severe Covid-19's brain impact is like aging 20 years, study suggests

Cognitive impairment resulting from severe Covid-19 is equivalent to 20 years of aging and losing 10 IQ points, according to a recent study published in eClinicalMedicine.

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by Anonymousreply 89May 5, 2022 7:57 PM

Slightly tangential

Mary! (Klotman)

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by Anonymousreply 90May 5, 2022 10:16 PM

my friend tested positive for covid and made an appt at the CVS minute clinic. But 2 hrs before his appt, he received a call from the nurse from there that if he was there to get the antiviral pills, he won't be able to get it. She said she was not comfortable prescribing it, she's telling people she won't even recommend her own mother to take it.

My friend's didn't go but his symptoms are mild so far. just running nose and discomfort in his throat.

I read that some people's symptoms came back after taking the pills.

by Anonymousreply 91May 5, 2022 10:45 PM

FDA LIMITS use of Johnson & Johnson COVID vaccine due to risk of life-threatening blood clots - a year after it lifted pause on one-shot regimen that 18million have already taken

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by Anonymousreply 92May 5, 2022 10:46 PM

Wow that’s pretty messed up R91.

by Anonymousreply 93May 5, 2022 10:46 PM

That is so bizarre. Does she have the authority to do that?

by Anonymousreply 94May 5, 2022 10:51 PM

Okay, I hope the asshole who said I was being a Mary! for wondering if people were going to start dropping dead of blood clots reads that!

by Anonymousreply 95May 5, 2022 11:53 PM

I've heard about symptoms "coming back" after Paxlovid, but some people think that suggests that means it's simply not long enough of a course of drugs.

by Anonymousreply 96May 6, 2022 1:22 AM

9 deaths out of 19 million shots *does* make you a MARY! r95.

[quote]There have been 60 confirmed cases, including nine fatalities, through March 18, 2022 from the nearly 19 million doses administered nationwide.

by Anonymousreply 97May 6, 2022 4:59 AM

This article doesn't seem to discourage prescribing Paxlovid, but I wonder if this is why the nurse referenced at R91 is being so cautious:

Donoghue, his wife and her 95-year-old mother have all been infected with COVID in the past month. All three received Paxlovid, felt better and tested negative on rapid tests for four or five days. Then their symptoms returned and every one Tested positive again.

“The symptoms the second time around are milder,” Donoghue said. “In some ways, we feel that Paxlovid did his job. This removed the extreme symptoms of the first round and very quickly reduced in all three cases.

However, some infectious disease specialists, while still promoting the benefits of Paxlovid, have expressed concern that the rebounds they see and hear about may indicate patients after completing treatment – and testing negative and subsequently positive, again – may still be infectious and Transmitting the virus to others.

“If you have a rebound after 12 days and you are back at work and not wearing a mask, are you still contagious?” Said Dr. Kathryn Stephenson, an assistant professor at Harvard Medical School, and a physician of infectious disease at Beit Israel Deacons Medical Center. “If you test positive on a rapid antigen test, you have a decent amount of viruses and Probably an infectious amount of viruses, “she said.

Pfizer, the pharmaceutical giant that manufactures Paxloid, noted in documents submitted last fall to federal regulators for its emergency use license that “some subjects have appeared to have a rebound at SARS-COV-2 RNA levels around day 10 or day 14.” But said. That “currently there are no clear signals” the virus has developed a resistance to one of Paxlowid’s primary components. The documents say that Pfizer will continue to analyze the data.

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by Anonymousreply 98May 6, 2022 5:36 AM

I didn't realize the article I cut-and-paste(d) had so many typos (within the article).

Here's a more recent (and grammatically correct) article on the same subject:

Some doctors have recently reported on medical blogs and social media that their Covid-19 patients have improved after taking Paxlovid — and even tested negative — only to have symptoms flare up again a few days later. The rebound may occur just four or five days after treatment, although symptoms appear to be milder the second time around. You may develop a sore throat, runny nose or chills, for instance. But there is not enough data yet for experts to say how often this phenomenon occurs or who’s at risk of a rebound.

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by Anonymousreply 99May 6, 2022 9:18 AM

R97, my comment about people dropping dead of blood clots a few years after having Covid was not specific to the Johnson & Johnson vaccine but to Covid in general. As we've said before, nobody knows nothin' 'bout the 'rona.

by Anonymousreply 100May 6, 2022 12:31 PM

Is paxlovid being reserved solely for the elderly and then immunocompromised or should everyone use them?

by Anonymousreply 101May 6, 2022 12:37 PM

Judging from Twitter, it depends on where you live, what your doctor believes and how persistent you are in the face of possible resistance, R101.

by Anonymousreply 102May 6, 2022 12:41 PM

Five healthy children aged 10 and under have died in mysterious hepatitis outbreak in the US: 109 cases have been identified in 25 states and 14% of infected kids have needed liver transplants, CDC announces

The leading hypothesis is that adenoviruses — which can cause the common cold — are behind the illnesses across the country. But Butler said the CDC was also investigating whether a previous Covid infection and weakened immunity due to lockdowns was a factor.

No link has been detected with Covid vaccines, with most of the patients not yet eligible to receive them.

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by Anonymousreply 103May 6, 2022 7:04 PM

The White House is preparing for as many as 100 million Americans to get infected with COVID-19 during a wave this fall and winter, but warns there will not be enough vaccines or treatments to protect everyone unless Congress provides new funding.

This compares with the roughly 130-140 million Americans who are estimated to have been infected over the omicron wave this winter, which led to a significant spike in deaths.

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by Anonymousreply 104May 6, 2022 7:51 PM

NY Gov. Kathy Hochul tests positive for COVID-19

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by Anonymousreply 105May 9, 2022 3:13 AM

Long Covid is ‘continuing to increase,’ experts say. Here’s how to know if you have it — and what to do about it

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by Anonymousreply 106May 10, 2022 2:54 PM

I was planning on waiting until the Fall before getting my 2nd booster, but 2 people I know have been diagnosed with Covid this week, and both are vaccinated & boosted. So, I wonder if their immunities were waning. (I do not know about their masking.)

So, I've scheduled my 2nd booster for this Friday evening. Hopefully I'll get in a good night's sleep before any side effects occur. Sticking with Pfizer as I know what to expect. Saturday may be a vegging on the couch type of day.

by Anonymousreply 107May 11, 2022 12:25 AM

NIH director confirms agency hid early COVID genes at request of Chinese scientists

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by Anonymousreply 108May 11, 2022 11:53 PM

Hmm if it isn’t human subject genetic data, it isn’t generally required to destroy or return all copies after accessing so I am going to assume moire than one researcher outside NIH has that data on their computers from before it got pulled back: They *probably* signed a data transfer use agreement that precluded re-sharing, but maybe not.

by Anonymousreply 109May 12, 2022 12:10 AM

Just got my second booster this evening. I'm hoping that by booking an 8pm appointment that I'll get a good night's sleep in before any side effects start. May mess up my weekend, though.

by Anonymousreply 110May 14, 2022 1:45 AM

Metro Detroit is High Risk again. No mandates yet, but they're recommending masking indoors again.

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by Anonymousreply 111May 14, 2022 2:13 AM

Same with Portland, Or, R111.

by Anonymousreply 112May 14, 2022 2:32 AM

r109- I *adore* moire, ElderLez!

by Anonymousreply 113May 14, 2022 3:10 AM

They will never bring back mask mandates because of the whiny babies.

by Anonymousreply 114May 14, 2022 3:39 AM

the lecture

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by Anonymousreply 115May 14, 2022 4:10 AM

R113/Doris, I saw that too, and I am in the midst of working with moire in a gown for a production, so I especially noticed. 24 yards of apple green moire- it is a period piece, and I am in heaven. Even costume staff gets to "work from home" sometimes these days.

by Anonymousreply 116May 14, 2022 10:21 AM

Oh dear!

Now if only I had been discussing a material transfer agreement instead of a DTUA, I could have made it work. Thank you for your kind corrections R113 and R116. It’s a great fabric, but not COVID related one would hope. Enjoy R116

Hope you are feeling OK R110

Long Island also back up to high. This week on the Long Island Rail Road on one of my morning commutes a maskless conductor kicked off a man with a bike because it was “against the rules.”

by Anonymousreply 117May 14, 2022 10:35 AM

ECDC upgrades B.4 and B.5 to variants of concern.

by Anonymousreply 118May 14, 2022 11:23 AM

I'm getting on a plane to NYC in 5 weeks. Hoping against hope that airlines reinstate the mask mandate, but I truly think that ship has sailed.

by Anonymousreply 119May 14, 2022 5:04 PM

[quote]I truly think that ship has sailed.

Yep. Sixteen counties in my state are now considered high risk (up from one county last week) and positivity rates in many areas exceed 20%, but the health dept. says only that "the CDC recommends that residents should take precautions and wear masks while in public and indoors."

by Anonymousreply 120May 14, 2022 5:17 PM

Why aren't the antimaskers fighting against those horrible, discriminatory, criminal 'no shirt, no shoes, no service' policies? We can kick people out of every single indoor space in the country for not wearing shoes because they might spread athlete's foot. But covid? That's fine. Just cough and spew all over the place.

by Anonymousreply 121May 15, 2022 2:16 AM

Article in the Lancet about possible cause of severe acute hepatitis outbreaks in children.

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by Anonymousreply 122May 15, 2022 11:06 AM

Mask mandates are back, for some.

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by Anonymousreply 123May 15, 2022 12:38 PM

Cells infected with Covid can 'explode': Landmark discovery could lead to radical new ways to tackle virus

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by Anonymousreply 124May 15, 2022 2:41 PM

Like a Spearhoeven Krispie!

by Anonymousreply 125May 15, 2022 7:13 PM

A good overview of where we are now. (Spoiler: We're in the shit.)

"First, this family of Omicron variants with functional impact indicates more rapid evolution of the virus than what we have seen previously. Very few of the thousands of variants since late 2019 have led to significant spikes of cases around the world—only 4 (Alpha, Beta, Gamma, and Delta) before Omicron. But now multiple Omicron subvariants are outcompeting one another, predominantly because of more immune evasion, such that BA.2 with 30% more transmission overtook BA.1, and BA.2.12.1 (in parallel to BA.4 and BA.5) has a substantial transmission advantage over BA.2. To put this in context, Dr. Linfa Wang recently opined: "Based on its immunological profile, it should be called SARS-3".

Second, it is about the reduction in vaccine effectiveness that we are now encountering. Obviously, a breakdown of protection from transmission occurred with Omicron with “breakthroughs” in people with vaccination occurring quite commonly. That, and reinfections, were an unusual phenomenon (~1%) before Omicron. Now we are seeing people with 4 shots who are getting breakthrough infections, even at 1-2 weeks from their most recent shot, when there should be the maximal level of neutralizing antibodies induced. That’s not a good sign, relative to the 95% vaccine effectiveness we had against symptomatic infections against the ancestral, D614G, Alpha, and Delta (with a booster) strains.

But it’s worse than that. Because we have relied (and taken for granted) on vaccines to protect us from severe disease—to prevent hospitalizations and deaths. Prior to Omicron we could, with a booster, assume there was well over 90-95% vaccine effectiveness vs severe disease. It is clear, however, from multiple reports, including the UK Health Security Agency and Kaiser Permanente that this level of protection has declined to approximately 80%, particularly taking account the more rapid waning than previously seen. That represents a substantial drop-off: instead of a gap or “leak” of 5%, it is about 4-fold at 20%. And we don’t yet know how well vaccines are still holding up with the BA.2.12.2 and BA.4/BA.5 variants. Likely similar to BA.1 and BA.2 because we haven’t seen substantial increases in hospitalizations, but no data are yet available and it’s still early. "

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by Anonymousreply 126May 16, 2022 4:16 PM

Great. Just great news.

by Anonymousreply 127May 16, 2022 4:18 PM

Whatever happened with this?

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by Anonymousreply 128May 16, 2022 4:20 PM

NYC Mayor Eric Adams masks up as city's health department quietly reveals plans to set Covid alert level to 'high' and tells residents over the age of two to wear face coverings in ALL indoor settings

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by Anonymousreply 129May 16, 2022 7:48 PM

R128 operation warp speed is over so I expect the DOD is fighting with the FDA regarding the design of the Phase 2 trial. Phase 1 is just safety so I wouldn’t expect to see much publicity around the results. That is assuming they’ve even gotten to the FDA to look at the results of the Phase 1 study.

As much as OWS is responsible for half of my gray hair, they really need to bring it back.

Also Sylvia/R127 while I generally get cranky when people call variants strains, I totally agree with Dr. Wang that Omicron is its own beast and should have been treated as such from the get-go.

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by Anonymousreply 130May 16, 2022 9:28 PM

Thank you ElderLez.

by Anonymousreply 131May 16, 2022 9:42 PM

Why is ElderLez's original post grayed out? Has this thread attracted a number of covidiot trolls, since I haven't visited it in some time? Sometimes, Muriel will gray out threads which display unusual (troll) posting patterns.

by Anonymousreply 132May 16, 2022 9:47 PM

I think this thread has been relatively troll free.

Obviously there are some posters who don’t like me and I expect that they’ve pushed the freaks and flames button. The same thing happened on the last megathread.

by Anonymousreply 133May 16, 2022 9:56 PM

We need intranasal vaccines, and we need them yesterday.

by Anonymousreply 134May 16, 2022 10:06 PM

From your lips to the FDA’s ears.

If you ask me, the inclusion/exclusion criteria make enrollment for trials of new vaccines difficult to enroll.

by Anonymousreply 135May 16, 2022 10:22 PM

I appreciate the posts ElderLez and Sylvia.

by Anonymousreply 136May 17, 2022 12:36 AM

Theory that the hepatitis being seen in kids is a result of an adenovirus on top of covid that hasn't been completely cleared from the body:

Wonder what other maladies lurk, waiting to be triggered?

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by Anonymousreply 137May 17, 2022 1:49 PM

ElderLez, I assume you know about this trial?

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by Anonymousreply 138May 18, 2022 2:36 PM

This is the traditional way of making vaccines, using an inactivated virus, and if it works it will ve a huge step in the continuing fight against COVID-19 because that technology is cheap and already in use all around the world.

Using an inactivated virus also "presents" more of the virus' genome to the immune system rather than just the spike protein (as is the case with the current mRNA vaccines), This gives our immune system more epitopes to target which might prevent immune-escape because the virus can't mutate every part of itself at once without becoming unviable.

by Anonymousreply 139May 18, 2022 6:40 PM

But of course Sylvia!

I’d be the first to volunteer, but my Crohn’s disease makes me ineligible. Still keeping my fingers crossed I can take it eventually. 10-20 doses per egg

by Anonymousreply 140May 18, 2022 7:55 PM

"Lots of new COVID-19 vaccines, drugs & tests are in the pipeline, but Congress has not approved a covid bill, USG is tapped out, and Ashish Jaha says, ""The U.S. government and no one in the United States is in negotiations with these companies," to buy, because there's no $$$."

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by Anonymousreply 141May 18, 2022 10:26 PM

According to a well written post in the Daily Mail comment section, the kids are getting hepatitis due to the viral shedding from vaccines that contain the adenovirus delivery system, which are primarily the Astro Zeneca and J&J vaccines. The UK which was primary Astro Zeneca has the highest incidents or did. I think the US has more cases but we are a bigger country. Israel who is almost all Pfizer is not experiencing this with their children. It makes sense. I doubt it's from the family dog or because the kids of weekend immunity. There is no way they would ever say anything even if they knew, at least for a few more years.

by Anonymousreply 142May 19, 2022 3:00 AM

[quote]the kids of weekend immunity

An After School Special

by Anonymousreply 143May 19, 2022 3:39 AM

The average age of the kids getting hepatitis is 2, so no, the hepatitis is not secondary to vaccinations since kids that age aren’t vaccinated in any country.

by Anonymousreply 144May 19, 2022 11:14 AM

[quote]the kids are getting hepatitis due to the viral shedding from vaccines that contain the adenovirus delivery system, which are primarily the Astro Zeneca and J&J vaccines. It makes sense.

"That reasoning is flawed on multiple counts. First, it fundamentally misunderstands how adenoviral vectors work in the COVID-19 vaccines. The vaccine viruses are modified to no longer be harmful — and they don’t replicate inside cells, so you can’t be infected with the adenovirus from the vaccine. The virus is simply a way to deliver to cells the instructions to make the coronavirus spike protein, which is what the immune system responds to to provide protection.

Second, there’s no indication that any of the kids with hepatitis have received the J&J vaccine. It’s not authorized for use in children in the U.S., and the company confirmed to FactCheck.org that it’s not authorized for kids anywhere in the world.

Third, the specific adenovirus that has been identified in multiple hepatitis cases in children is human adenovirus type 41. The Johnson & Johnson vaccine uses a modified type 26 virus. (The AstraZeneca Oxford COVID-19 vaccine, which also uses a viral vector design, is only authorized for adults in places such as the U.K., and uses a chimpanzee adenovirus.)

To propose a link to the J&J vaccine on this basis is illogical and ignores all available evidence."

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by Anonymousreply 145May 19, 2022 11:21 AM

it can't be the vaccine. I read that the kids who have the liver problems are too young to get vaxxed. They think it might be covid related. who knows?

by Anonymousreply 146May 19, 2022 2:22 PM

One theory is that the kids had covid and hadn't cleared it entirely when they were infected with an adenovirus. The combo triggered hepatitis.

Who knows what other ugly surprises await those who had covid?

by Anonymousreply 147May 19, 2022 2:59 PM

That appears to be r142's only post...

by Anonymousreply 148May 19, 2022 3:24 PM

Well, thank you for dropping the new Propaganda Talking Points here on DL early, R142. Thanks, also, to ElderLez and friends for the immediate debunking.

This is why I keep this set of threads on watch. Like the "Treason" threads, they are fascinating at how much DL knows, and how there are dedicated trolls here, even HERE, spreading their lies relentlessly. I am glad they get shut down on this thread quickly. Other Corona threads are just full of the roaches.

by Anonymousreply 149May 19, 2022 5:39 PM

One word, r149...Flit.

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by Anonymousreply 150May 19, 2022 6:49 PM

I like the Dr. Suess art. Thanks, Doris. I was feeling cranky earlier.

by Anonymousreply 151May 19, 2022 7:25 PM

The CDC has changed its stance on a second booster for 50+ from "option" to "urge," citing “a steep and substantial increase in hospitalizations for older Americans.”

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by Anonymousreply 153May 21, 2022 9:56 PM

Please not little bunnies!

by Anonymousreply 154May 21, 2022 10:06 PM

r154 - How about big ones, Sylvia?

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by Anonymousreply 155May 21, 2022 10:20 PM

Saw this today. Anyone here able to give insight?

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by Anonymousreply 156May 24, 2022 11:01 PM

Looks like boosters are still more protective, but the gap is narrower than it was over the winter.

It’ll be interesting to see how BA.4 and 5A.5 compete with BA.2.12.1, which is now the dominant variant in the US.

by Anonymousreply 157May 24, 2022 11:49 PM

Thanks, ElderLez.

by Anonymousreply 158May 25, 2022 12:18 AM

The CDC says 20% of under-65s and 25% of over-65s who had covid develop long covid.

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by Anonymousreply 159May 25, 2022 9:36 PM

Covid vaccines, while holding up strong against hospitalization and death, offer little protection against long Covid, according to research published Wednesday in the journal Nature Medicine.

Compared to an unvaccinated individual, the risk of long Covid in a fully vaccinated individual was cut by only about 15 percent, the study found.

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by Anonymousreply 160May 25, 2022 9:39 PM

R159 And yet, they don't give a flying fuck about it.

by Anonymousreply 161May 25, 2022 11:30 PM

Jeff Bridges says

[quote] Covid Made My Cancer Look Like Nothing

[quote] Jeff Bridges is opening up about his serious bout with Covid, saying he came “pretty close to dying” and noting that “Covid made my cancer look like nothing.”

[quote] “The doctors kept telling me, ‘Jeff, you’ve got to fight. You’re not fighting.’ I was in surrender mode. I was ready to go. I was dancing with my mortality."

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by Anonymousreply 162May 26, 2022 5:56 PM

[quote] I was dancing with my mortality.

It's better than dancing with a stranger.

by Anonymousreply 163May 26, 2022 9:36 PM

I think Rhode Island is finally off the increasing cases list. (For realz this time, not just my wishful thinking)

by Anonymousreply 164May 26, 2022 10:04 PM

The West Coast is heating up.

by Anonymousreply 165May 26, 2022 10:49 PM

Well, shit. Husband came back Wednesday evening from his conference with a sinus drip (but he frequently has a sinus drip), home test was neg but we isolated as best we could anyway. His PCR from yesterday came back poz. He's 4x vaxxed so it hasn't escalated beyond the sinus drop and mild aches so far. *fingers crossed*

ElderLez, any tips for isolating in a small home? He's been wearing N95s around me, except for meals, which we eat near an open window and door. I hope the pets don't pass it between us.

by Anonymousreply 166May 27, 2022 12:58 PM

We took turns eating Sylvia, we didn’t eat any meals or drink coffee together. And we both wore masks during the day. Our apartment is just two rooms, but it’s a duplex so we’d switch floors to keep apart as needed. And of course we slept separately. It was a MISERABLE 10 days. But as hardcore as that sounds, she was sick starting on Friday and we didn’t start isolating from each other at all until Monday so for her most infectious days we were breathing all over each other.

Best wishes for your hubby and for you.

by Anonymousreply 167May 27, 2022 1:23 PM

Thanks EL. Luckily his office is in our basement anyway (along with a futon for sleeping.)

by Anonymousreply 168May 27, 2022 1:35 PM

"Bottom line: the pandemic is not over, and it's NOT getting milder."

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by Anonymousreply 169May 27, 2022 1:39 PM

I mean, aside from the trolls, is anyone at all surprised that it is not over? Nor milder?

Sylvia, I hope your man gets better and you avoid it all together.

by Anonymousreply 170May 27, 2022 3:13 PM

Good luck, Sylvia. Hoping your husband gets better quickly and you manage to dodge it!

by Anonymousreply 171May 27, 2022 6:14 PM

Oh keep him in the basement for sure! (Do you have a new pet? I only remember Seamus. I hope I remembered the correct name)

A little look back from Mike Lauer.

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by Anonymousreply 172May 27, 2022 7:12 PM

R172 We have three cats in addition to Seamus.

by Anonymousreply 173May 28, 2022 12:23 PM

When I got covid, my partner got it 3 days later...tried to keep him from getting it but it was not possible.

by Anonymousreply 174May 28, 2022 12:25 PM

The current BA.2/BA2.12.1 wave is the 2nd highest case burden for the US pandemic; we're likely only capturing 5-10% of the real number of cases.

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by Anonymousreply 175May 28, 2022 6:50 PM

Lisa Scimens and her husband John Moss were elated in early May to finally be going on a European odyssey to celebrate their 30th anniversary.

But what started off as the perfect trip, ended up with Scimens and Moss quarantining in a hotel in Germany with COVID-19, uncertain of when they can get home.

Scimens and Moss were in Berlin when Moss, 66, felt a bad head cold coming on. Two days later, Scimens, 59, started to get a runny nose and cough. Both tested positive. Thecouple, who are fully vaccinated and double boosted against COVID-19, have been been stuck in isolation at their hotel in Berlin ever since, their journey derailed.

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by Anonymousreply 176May 28, 2022 6:57 PM

Wait? You mean, they went on an international trip during one of the highest waves of a pandemic and got sick???? Whaaaaaat? How could that possibly happen???

Fucking morons.

by Anonymousreply 177May 28, 2022 7:06 PM

R174/Sylvia we were completely incapable of keeping Puccini away from either one of us. I think cats *might* be easier, but, if anything, the dog was extra snuggly.

I hope your husband is starting to feel better.

by Anonymousreply 178May 28, 2022 8:56 PM

R177 I WISH I could be trapped in Germany with no means to return to the US, ever!

by Anonymousreply 179May 28, 2022 9:44 PM

No you don't.

by Anonymousreply 180May 28, 2022 10:54 PM

Gavin Newsom tests positive for COVID

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by Anonymousreply 181May 29, 2022 12:53 AM

Billy Crystal tests positive.

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by Anonymousreply 182May 29, 2022 11:26 AM

I'd forgotten that Billy Crystal was alive.

by Anonymousreply 183May 29, 2022 1:38 PM

Not a Broadway baby, Sylvia?

by Anonymousreply 184May 29, 2022 3:00 PM

Ron DeSantis' Administration Clears Him Of Accusations Of Covering Up COVID Deaths

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by Anonymousreply 185May 29, 2022 8:19 PM

The United States is recording more than 100,000 infections a day — at least five times higher than this point last year — as it confronts the most transmissible versions of the virus yet. Immunity built up as a result of the record winter outbreak appears to provide little protection against the latest variants, new research shows. And public health authorities are bracing for Memorial Day gatherings to fuel another bump in cases, potentially seeding a summer surge.

It’s a far cry from a year ago, with predictions of a “hot vax summer” uninhibited by covid concerns. Back then, coronavirus seemed to teeter on the brink of defeat as cases plummeted to their lowest levels since spring 2020 and vaccines became widely available for adults. Even the vaccinated and boosted now grudgingly accept the virus as a formidable foe that’s here to stay as governments abandon measures to contain it.

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by Anonymousreply 186May 29, 2022 10:42 PM

[quote]Even the vaccinated and boosted now grudgingly accept the virus as a formidable foe that’s here to stay as governments abandon measures to contain it.

A formidable foe that only reached Omicron and it's newest subvariants because assholes wouldn't wear masks or get vaccinated. We could have held this at bay and turned it into something that would have small, localized outbreaks that would need to be contained. We could have stopped the unending production of newer and newer variants by having everyone be vaccinated. But, instead, the ignorant pieces of shit who wouldn't mask or get vaccinated have powered up Covid beyond what it needed to be. They should be ashamed of themselves but they are too fucking stupid.

by Anonymousreply 187May 30, 2022 12:07 AM

The last guy quoted in the article at R186 makes me want to bash his head in with a bar stool.

by Anonymousreply 188May 30, 2022 10:15 AM

No one in my small town is masked, and we are at 18% positivity rate. Our Governor isn't running for re-election, so I am not sure why she isn't mandating masks.

by Anonymousreply 189May 31, 2022 12:06 AM

[quote] Lisa Scimens and her husband John Moss were elated in early May to finally be going on a European odyssey to celebrate their 30th anniversary. But what started off as the perfect trip, ended up with Scimens and Moss quarantining in a hotel in Germany with COVID-19, uncertain of when they can get home.

Ha! Karma Chameleon's a bitch!

by Anonymousreply 190May 31, 2022 12:46 AM

Husband is feeling much better, but still testing positive on home tests after 5-6 days of symptoms. I did a PCR test Sunday and have thus far evaded the 'rona.

by Anonymousreply 191May 31, 2022 12:19 PM

So happy to hear that Sylvia!

by Anonymousreply 192May 31, 2022 12:26 PM

If anyone else is concerned about infection at home, this explains how to make a cheap and effective air filter. Useful for those dealing with wildfire smoke, also.

Glad to hear you’re both doing well, r191.

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by Anonymousreply 193May 31, 2022 4:54 PM

'I couldn’t take it any more' Lionel Messi opens up on Covid-19 hell and reveals his lungs were affected and he was unable to run

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by Anonymousreply 194May 31, 2022 9:23 PM

Two million people in the UK are thought to be living with long Covid.

About two in five of those with long Covid, or 826,000 people, noted that infection was at least a year ago while one in five, or 376,000 people, said it was at least two years ago. In addition, 71% of those with long Covid said their symptoms had a negative impact on their day-to-day activities, with 20% saying activities had been “limited a lot”

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by Anonymousreply 195June 1, 2022 3:51 PM

For ElderLez. Dogs' ability to detect COIVD around 97%.

Just another tool to stop spread that absolutely no one will use.

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by Anonymousreply 196June 2, 2022 12:28 PM

Ooh, maybe all the Terminators had Covid in the future! Fuck. Now we know what our future holds.

by Anonymousreply 197June 2, 2022 12:59 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the one thing I've noticed seems to be missing from the narrative these days is people getting Covid from this new strain and either having no symptoms or ver very mild ones. It seems to be hitting nearly everyone about the same (bad, bad flu with lingering issues) and a small percentage needing to go to the hospital.

So are we out of the phase where some people may not experience any symptoms? If so, that's certainly not an improvement.

by Anonymousreply 198June 2, 2022 5:10 PM

R198 Tons of people (mostly the vaccinated) are getting mild symptoms that they can easily pass off as "just allergies" and go about their business, infecting everyone on their merry way. Which has been adding fuel to the "it's just a cold!" gaslighting narrative. My husband's symptoms never progressed beyond a head cold.

No one knows what portion will go on to have Long Covid and/or future heart troubles.

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by Anonymousreply 199June 2, 2022 5:58 PM

Ugh, I have to fly in 2 weeks. I'm in first class in a row by myself (and it cost an obscene amount) and I will be double masked and never take it off. But man, I wish I didn't have to go.

by Anonymousreply 200June 2, 2022 7:15 PM

Thanks, Sylvia. I felt like I had stopped hearing the stories of- I had covid and I didn't have any symptoms, etc.- stories that we'd been hearing with Delta and the first v of Omicron.

I was just talking to my therapist about this because I am concerned about a recurrence of the cancer I was treated for 6 years ago. He was trying to make me recognize that I'd gotten through it before. I told him- Yes, but that was before Trump was elected and Covid came around. I actually had hope then. Now I have no faith in anything. That people are so stupid they have allowed this virus to get to the point where it is unstoppable is just beyond my comprehension. I never thought we were this fucking stupid.

by Anonymousreply 201June 2, 2022 7:19 PM

The COVID sniffing doggies are awesome, so much better than those silly temperatures checks.

So happy to hear that your husband didn’t get any worse Sylvia. I don’t know what conference he attended, but anecdotally I’ve heard that the APA conference in New Orleans may have been a superspreader event. (Eight thousand attendees!)

R201, if the cancer recurs, and you don’t have a contraindication, you need to get on Evusheld. Like Paxlovid it is being under prescribed, but it is a miracle drug.,

by Anonymousreply 202June 2, 2022 9:42 PM

Thank you, ElderLez. I'm going to look that up right now!

by Anonymousreply 203June 2, 2022 9:53 PM

R202 He attended Digestive Disease Week in San Diego, I think it had seven thousand. Still testing positive after nine days of symptoms.

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by Anonymousreply 204June 2, 2022 11:28 PM

The United States is now in its fourth-biggest Covid surge, according to official case counts – but experts believe the actual current rate is much higher.

America is averaging about 94,000 new cases every day, and hospitalizations have been ticking upward since April, though they remain much lower than previous peaks.

About one in five – 22% – of adult New Yorkers likely had Covid between 23 April and 8 May, according to a preprint study. That would mean 1.5 million adults in the city had Covid in a single two-week period – far higher than official counts during that time.

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by Anonymousreply 205June 2, 2022 11:31 PM

San Diego is such a beautiful city. At least your husband contracted COVID somewhere scenic.

I am so over virtual conferences. A few weeks ago I was cursing having to attend another on-line FDP meeting and hearing that they wouldn’t be in person until May 2023 at the earliest, but then I hear about all the people who got infected at in-person meetings recently and I thank my lucky stars.

by Anonymousreply 206June 3, 2022 12:32 AM

Two actors died today of Covid-related illnesses. Brad Johnson, who was 62 (and likely an anti-vaxxer) and Charles Siebert, who was 84. Johnson was involved in Kirk Cameron's Jesus Freak movies, so I'm guessing he was a moronic Trumper. No loss there.

by Anonymousreply 207June 3, 2022 1:31 AM

Brad Johnson was very handsome in his heyday. Was he an anti-vaxxer?

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by Anonymousreply 208June 3, 2022 1:51 AM

It seems so, yes.

Also couldn't act for shit.

by Anonymousreply 209June 3, 2022 1:53 AM

I got covid last month and it took 10 days before testing negative. same for my partner.

by Anonymousreply 210June 3, 2022 2:41 AM

[quote]Correct me if I'm wrong, but the one thing I've noticed seems to be missing from the narrative these days is people getting Covid from this new strain and either having no symptoms or ver very mild ones.

Most of the asymptomatic cases were caught when people had to take mandatory tests for things like concerts, workplaces, sporting events, plays, etc. Now that no one is requiring proof of any vaccinations or tests, all of those cases are going unrecognized. The real numbers of infections now is most likely beyond comprehension and the fact that you can just get reinfected pretty quickly means covid is completely out of control at this point.

by Anonymousreply 211June 3, 2022 4:00 AM

[quote]Correct me if I'm wrong, but the one thing I've noticed seems to be missing from the narrative these days is people getting Covid from this new strain and either having no symptoms or ver very mild ones.

Yes, I'm sure Brad Johnson and Charles Siebert had very mild deaths.

by Anonymousreply 212June 3, 2022 10:31 AM

Los Angeles County Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer said today that at the current pace of increases in local Covid-related hospitalizations, the county will move into the federal government’s “high” virus activity category within a few weeks, possibly by the end of June. Ferrer has frequently said — and repeated Thursday — that that would trigger a return of mandatory indoor mask wearing in the county, a requirement that was dropped on march 3 of this year.

The Bay Area’s largest county, Alameda, announced Thursday it will return to mandatory masking in indoor public spaces.

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by Anonymousreply 213June 3, 2022 11:41 AM

The CDC is analyzing more than 100 deaths that could be attributed to long Covid by looking at death certificates from across the country over the last two years.

The review is the first of its kind and indicates that long Covid and the health complications associated with it could lead to death. NCHS is set to publish preliminary data from its analysis in the coming days.

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by Anonymousreply 214June 3, 2022 11:47 AM

R212, I don't understand your cunty response. Do you know how to read?

by Anonymousreply 215June 3, 2022 3:32 PM

FDA advisory panel gives near-unanimous recommendation to Novavax's protein-based COVID-19 vaccine - the first of its kind

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by Anonymousreply 216June 7, 2022 9:06 PM

Great news R216. I hope the FDA approves it soon.

by Anonymousreply 217June 7, 2022 10:28 PM

Pos, but not pos.

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by Anonymousreply 219June 11, 2022 7:23 PM

Hi WaPo- they gave up on it 5 months ago.

by Anonymousreply 220June 11, 2022 7:50 PM

Just a coincidence...

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by Anonymousreply 221June 11, 2022 7:55 PM

WHO releases report on COVID origins that suggests bats were to blame - but can't rule out a lab leak because China isn't sharing data on first wave of infections

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by Anonymousreply 222June 12, 2022 2:43 AM

[quote]China isn't sharing data on first wave of infections

And why not? The cover-up in the beginning and the ongoing refusal to cooperate with scientists in figuring out what we're dealing with points to a lab leak. What's to hide if the virus came from nature and is no one's fault? The world should be furious.

by Anonymousreply 223June 12, 2022 2:47 AM

One more point...if the virus did come from bats, China was warned a decade ago by its own scientists of the potential for a deadly pandemic virus if bats continued to be consumed, and they strongly advised against this practice. Would that be the reason for the secrecy? I hope this came from nature because at least there will be some sort of eventual predictability about it. But there are, unfortunately, strong reasons to suspect it was a lab leak. Hopefully we'll find out it was from nature.

by Anonymousreply 224June 12, 2022 2:54 AM

What difference does it make at this point, unless they're going to nuke China?

by Anonymousreply 225June 12, 2022 4:00 AM

The difference would be pressure for a possible worldwide regulatory framework for research regarding pathogens of pandemic potential. Over-regulating that research when done in the US or paid for by US government sources while the the EC and CCP funding sources are all unregulated is a recipe for disaster.

That said the CCP might just be hiding a catastrophic initial response to a naturally occurring event.

by Anonymousreply 226June 12, 2022 10:15 AM

"In early May, 27-year-old Hayley Furmaniuk felt tired and a bit congested, but after rapid-testing negative for the coronavirus two days in a row, she dined indoors with friends. The next morning, her symptoms worsened. Knowing her parents were driving in for Mother’s Day, she tested again—and saw a very bright positive.

Which meant three not-so-great things: She needed to cancel with her parents; she had likely exposed her friends; a test had apparently taken three days to register what her vaccinated body had already figured out."

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by Anonymousreply 227June 12, 2022 8:50 PM

i am traveling to nyc this coming week and taking 4 double boxes of tests with me and will test every day. Of course, one of the reasons I'm being so generous about it is that the CDC just sent me four more boxes on the government a week ago and they all expire in early August so I may as well use them.

by Anonymousreply 228June 12, 2022 9:49 PM

Safe travels R228.

The below is super frustrating.

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by Anonymousreply 229June 13, 2022 10:03 PM

Chair of UCSF Dept. of Medicine Bob Wachter says his 64-year-old vaxxed and double boosted wife took Paxlovid for her "fairly mild" covid infection and now has long Covid.

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by Anonymousreply 230June 13, 2022 10:06 PM

Bob is making quite the leap there, isn't he.

by Anonymousreply 231June 13, 2022 10:09 PM

Well, shit. Months ago I purchased tickets to an early July performance of "Richard III" (and a morning lecture -- I'm a Richard III junkie) at the Shakespeare festival in Stratford, ON expressly BECAUSE at that time they said masks would be required of all attendees. I thought, "It's Canada! Canadians are responsible, they won't bait and switch me!"


"As of June 22, the wearing of masks will be strongly recommended but not required for patrons of our theatres....Our patron surveys indicate a significant decline in the number of people seeking a mandatory mask policy at the Festival as more and more businesses lift their mask requirements. This change coincides with a decline in case numbers and the lowest test-positivity rate in the province since 2021."

Excuse me if that isn't reassuring. 1. People travel from all over for this festival, and 2. if testing is anything like the US, it has ground to a halt and low numbers are only indicative of low testing. Fuck this society.

by Anonymousreply 232June 14, 2022 4:39 PM

I got an MRI this morning and they asked me to take my mask off because of the metal nose clip in it. I totally understand why, but I wish I would have thought about that beforehand and found something else to use.

by Anonymousreply 233June 14, 2022 4:42 PM

Fauci got COVID! he's been vaxed 4 times~

by Anonymousreply 234June 16, 2022 12:36 AM

And has mild symptoms.

by Anonymousreply 235June 16, 2022 7:45 AM

This is theoretically a big step forward.

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by Anonymousreply 236June 16, 2022 4:28 PM

After five weeks of declining coronavirus deaths, the number of fatalities reported globally increased by 4% last week.

The U.N. health agency said there were 8,700 COVID-19 deaths last week, with a 21% jump in the Americas and a 17% increase in the Western Pacific.

Coronavirus cases continued to fall, with about 3.2 million new cases reported last week, extending a decline in COVID-19 infections since the peak in January. Still, there were significant spikes of infection in some regions, with the Middle East and Southeast Asia reporting increases of 58% and 33% respectively.

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by Anonymousreply 237June 17, 2022 9:25 PM

The number of coronavirus patients in serious condition in Israel reached 140 on Friday, marking a near 70% rise since last week, with health experts warning that the current situation was “unstable.”

While Israel has seen rising infection numbers for a few weeks, a rise in seriously ill patients marks a real concern as the country deals with the spread of the new variant BA.5, with experts warning that hospitals may need to reopen COVID wards.

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by Anonymousreply 238June 18, 2022 1:13 PM

R236 Theoretically, yes. But I can't conceive of any situation in which the average Joe would be able to obtain such a test. I'd love to have one!

by Anonymousreply 239June 18, 2022 6:15 PM

The return of COVID cruises!

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by Anonymousreply 240June 21, 2022 1:25 AM

White House Covid coordinator tells parents to vaccinate their children even if they have IMMUNITY from a previous infection: Covid cases drop 11% - below 100,000 per day mark for first time since May

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by Anonymousreply 241June 21, 2022 3:46 PM

I thought there is no coivd immunity? You can get it over and over again?

by Anonymousreply 242June 21, 2022 3:47 PM

R242 You are correct. You may have limited immunity but only to the variant by which you were infected. Caught Omicron ba.1? Guess what, ba.4 doesn't GAF!

by Anonymousreply 243June 21, 2022 5:08 PM

[quote]I thought there is no coivd immunity? You can get it over and over again?

Yes ... and it's not necessarily milder in subsequent infections.

"Compared to people with first infection, reinfection contributes additional risks of all-cause mortality, hospitalization, and adverse health outcomes in the pulmonary and several extrapulmonary organ systems (cardiovascular disorders, coagulation and hematologic disorders, diabetes, fatigue, gastrointestinal disorders, kidney disorders, mental health disorders, musculoskeletal disorders, and neurologic disorders).

The risks were evident in those who were unvaccinated, had 1 shot, or 2 or more shots prior to the second infection.

The risks were most pronounced in the acute phase, but persisted in the post-acute phase of reinfection, and most were still evident at 6 months after reinfection.

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by Anonymousreply 244June 21, 2022 9:57 PM

People continue to experience neurological problems six months after recovering from a COVID-19 infection, finds a recent study from the University of California San Diego. In fact, scientists say most coronavirus long-haulers battle brain-related issues.

The findings are part of a long-term study tracking the progression of neurological symptoms in people with long COVID. Not only do neurological symptoms persist, the researchers also found never-before-seen motor coordination and cognitive issues in long-haulers.

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by Anonymousreply 245June 22, 2022 1:09 AM

How Russia 'FAKED its Covid vaccine trial and made billions along the way': Scientists find 'ridiculous' anomalies in Kremlin jab data and say there's only a 0.02% chance trial results were genuine

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by Anonymousreply 246June 22, 2022 9:18 PM

I'm wondering if the future variants will make the current home tests useless.

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by Anonymousreply 247June 24, 2022 2:08 AM

Good article on where we really are now.

"In 2018, while reporting on pandemic preparedness in the Democratic Republic of Congo, I heard many people joking about the fictional 15th article of the country’s constitution: Débrouillez-vous, or “Figure it out yourself.” It was a droll and weary acknowledgment that the government won’t save you, and you must make do with the resources you’ve got. The United States is now firmly in the débrouillez-vous era of the COVID-19 pandemic."

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by Anonymousreply 248June 27, 2022 5:08 PM

This just could not have gone any worse than it has.

by Anonymousreply 249June 27, 2022 5:14 PM
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