Who’s more hotheaded: the Irish or Italians?

Why do Americans call themselves Irish or Italian etc? Unless you or your parents are directly from those countries you are 100% American!

It is also really offensive to claim negative character traits are somehow based on a physical country you have absolutely nothing to do with!!

Fuck off, Judy. If you’re neither Italian nor Irish, then go eat some wonder bread and think about your shitty life.

Italians

Depends on what you mean by hot-headed. If you do something to offend them, Italians will knife you to death without turning a hair. The Irish, on the other hand, will smile in your face as they slowly poison you to death over a long period, making it look natural when you finally kick it.

End result is the same, it's just that one takes a bit longer.

I’ve known plenty of calm and a handful of hotheaded Irish. I’ll withhold comment on Italians because I don’t want to be accused of being just another white guy with opinions about POC.

And out of interest what would Africans or Mexicans do? Are there any particular traits you’d like to discuss there considering this isn’t a racist, offensive stereotypical discussion about bogus ethnicity?

The Lebanese are the hotheads.

I heard one say "You show me your penis, I will cut off your head'.

Why were they let in? It seems like we let anything in to get cheap labour.

R1, I'm guessing you're not American.

When Americans says they are "Irish", "Italian", etc. they're not saying they are actually a part of those cultures. They know they are Americans.

However, America is a big country and has numerous subcultures. Some of those subcultures originated with immigrants from other countries. So, Americans just say "Irish", "Italian", etc. as shorthand to identify that they are descended from one of those subcultures.

To be honest, it's a little annoying when non-Americans squawk about this point. It's really none of their business.

That doesn’t track with what I’ve always observed from lebanese. Rosie O’Donnell was the queen of nice, and wasn’t she one?

In my experience, many Italians refuse to apologise, and have even told me they were raised this way. These are mainly Southern Italians, and Sicilians. I think a handicap or reticence to make an apology makes for more lingering resentment, or grievances. This sort of stuff is the type of baggage which makes people really explode.

I'd say Irish tend to be snappy, and more sassy, similar to Scots. Things sound and look worse than they really are from the outside. Tempers flare, and everyone makes up later.

Wops.

[quote] Why do Americans call themselves Irish or Italian etc? Unless you or your parents are directly from those countries you are 100% American!

They’re not American, idiot. There’s a difference between ethnicity and nationality. Your mother should have swallowed. You’re too stupid to live.

Boy are you a smelly cunt, r1.

And I do not mean that in an admiring way.

The Micks just get into fistfights after binge drinking. Italians are much more passionate. However, if you’re family they’ll usually forgive you. Fuck with them as outsiders and they’ll make your life a living hell.

[quote]When Americans says they are "Irish", "Italian", etc. they're not saying they are actually a part of those cultures. They know they are Americans.

[quote]To be honest, it's a little annoying when non-Americans squawk about this point. It's really none of their business.

Right R9, because the rest of the world lives for the pleasure of visiting Gabagool "Italians" and Yankee "Greeks", and Paddy and Mick "Irish", visiting their "homelands" of an often very uncertain connection, and insisting they may be cousins! How delightful.

R16, and yet those very same countries run ads in the U.S. directed at Americans telling them to "come home" and visit and such nonsense.

Maybe they should stop doing that stuff and quit $ucking from the tourism teet.

I don't know why Europeans get so triggered at Americans describing their ethnic background. Especially if you live in a big city, it's not uncommon for people to inquire about your heritage, what languages you speak, etc.

Lived in the northeast for several years in an area with mainly Jewish, Italian and Irish Americans. Then the mid Atlantic and Midwest for about the same time. And very briefly on the west coast. I know this will go against the prevailing sentiments of DL, where everyone still resides mentally in 1962 but I have not noticed any disproportionate level of anger in either Irish or Italians. They did tend to be fairly direct but that's the northeast for you.

Irish

My boyfriend is Italian and Irish. And I know what you’re thinking.

Yes, I have been screamed at in a Quick Chek parking lot.

I agree with r1. Americans are annoying AF with this shit. I grew up with so many white trash people who bragged about their Norwegian, Swedish etc. background when they have never traveled outside of the US and have no known family members there. It has white supremacy vibes to me. R18, I have no idea what you are talking about. People ask about where you grew up etc. I honestly have no clue about the background of some of even my closest friends. Conversations don’t generally veer into discussing where their great great great grandparents came from.

[quote] [R18], I have no idea what you are talking about.

You've never been asked about your ethnicity? I live in LA and feel that this has been a fairly common question (usually just innocent curiosity) throughout the years.

[quote] It has white supremacy vibes to me.

And you feel this way when blacks and Jews describe themselves as such. God, you’re a moron.

R22, is white trash whose family owned slaves. This is where the issue he has comes from.

Italians are crazy with anger. Irish can explode with anger because they keep it bottled up and are superficially polite. To much alcohol makes them prone to explosions. Italians seem to be in constant argument with family members - not sure I’d call it hotheaded, just confrontational.

I'm thinking that OP is posting from 1957 when Italians and Irish mostly still lived in their respective ethnic enclaves.

Or that he's one of those "Italians aren't white" trolls

[quote] Also, for the race worriers, fuck off. It’s all good and no offense taken.

OP says something arguably offensive, and then self approves by stating “no offense taken.”

Obviously Irish-American.

R25- My brother had a girlfriend in college. Her family still had this document that listed the slaves they owned. I guess it was a family heirloom. She was from Long Island but her ancestors were from Louisiana.

I think Italians are more hot headed but the Irish are more violent drunks.

And to the Europeans, yes, we know we are Americans in your eyes, but that's we roll in the US. Also, be flattered that we are visiting your country to learn more about our heritage vs. discouraging about it.

Incorrect, r27. You must be of “English descent”.

R27, why do they have to live in ethnic enclaves? Like anyone else in America they can identify as whatever they want.

Our 1960s New Jersey neighborhood was populated by what my father called "The Three I's," the Irish, the Italians, and the Israelites. A lot of North Jersey was like that. We were Irish, and to me, diversity consisted of Italians and Jews, to whom I was much more attracted than my fellow Irish. To this day, "my type" is some mixture of the three. I'm blond blind.

R24, African Americans don’t know what country they came from for obvious reasons. Black is not a country. Judaism is a religion. You are a fucking moron.

America is supposed to be 100 percent English. Letting in the Irish ruined america because the Irish voted liberal and stabbed us in the back. They fought for Hitler.

I'm descended from both.

So I'll knife ya, then sing a weepy song into my beer about it later.

R25 is so misguided.

White trash = too poor to own slaves and seen as utterly valueless to slaveowners.

Slaves were considered better than white trash--theyu were valuable as property and workers. White trash were viewed as generally useless, at the level of vagrants.

Italians are hot-headed all the time. Irish are hot-headed only when they're drunk.

Seriously this thread is so utterly offensive! Americans claiming to be Irish, Italian etc is bad enough but then making negative stereotypes about those nationalities is just insulting.

I remember seeing Patti LuPone and Joy Behar on The View discussing their tantrums and saying “I’m Italian it’s what we do”. No dear you’re a cunt! Never confuse cunt with country!

R39 are you new here? Everything about this website is utterly offensive

The only evidence I have that I'm Irish is when I get "weepy or misty-eyed" or when I'm standing over the toilet searching for my dick!!!!

FUCK THE IRISH!

R34 We do because of DNA and I think the ultimate conclusion is we’re Americans. The results have multiple countries and you realize those countries are younger than the slave trade and you just realize it’s kind of pointless to identify with something that happened 300 years ago.

I feel like white people who have that “mixed breed” Scottish / German / Irish / etc mix identify as just American too. Except they’re not treated like foreigners the way black people are. Black Americans being Americans seems to still be disputed after 400 years here as we’re compared to Latino and Asian immigrants.

Let's move forward from 1987 DL

In 2022, the Irish and Italians are intermarrying at very high rates--often with each other--and the ethnic stereotypes that were prevalent during the midcentury period 50-75 years ago are much less pronounced. Yes, there are small enclaves here and there where these stereotypes live on, but they're the exception, not the rule

In my experience they’re both great at the sort of “you’re dead to me” silent treatment thing.

My parents were Italian immigrants and I agree with r38.

Also, I beg to differ that Italians don't hold grudges against their family. I had two uncles that lived next door to each other and didn't speak for TEN YEARS over one uncle's construction company being awarded a bid on a city job over the other uncle's company.

As a kid I would run around closing all the windows so the neighbors couldn't hear the yelling when they all got together. The reason for the yelling could range from something as trivial as an ashtray not being fetched quickly enough to someone being "disrespected" twenty years ago back in the old country.

It's so easy to rank white ethnicities as far as inherent goodness. English at top and Italian/gypsy at bottom. It's ludicrous when social engineers then try to say blacks, etc are equal to whites . Equal to which whites?

I'm Irish and Italian (first generation). My father was Northern Italian and they don't have the big temper at all. I think my own temper is more from my mother's Irish side, meaning I get malicious when I drink.

[quote]Also, for the race worriers, fuck off. It’s all good and no offense taken.

Well, if it's "all good" with respect to race, then I would say blacks have both the Irish and the Italian beat by a country mile when it comes to being hot headed.

R1 needs cock! STAT!!!

Italians don't get mad... They get even 😒

I don't get mad. I get stabby.

Can't speak much on the Italians. But I'm from the south and I'd say the Irish are probably more hot-headed. The Irish are the ones you see in smiling in those old black & white photos of black people hanging from trees back in first half of 20th century America. Bryant is also an Irish last name. Roy Bryant is also the one who beat Emmett Till to death along with his brother inlaw. So based off that and knowing that most whites who live in the south are also of Irish decent. I'd say the Irish are definitely more hot-headed and angry.

They're the ones overwhelming pictured in those old black &white lynching photos from decades ago. They're also the reason why the south is so red politically. I'd say both the Italians and Irish are both trash and garbage through. They're history in both NYC and Boston speak for itself!

English Americans remain superior I guess.

Being Amrican but mostly of Irish decent with a little German, I don't get where the Irish have small cocks comes from. I have a huge dick, my 100% Irish dad does, and so does Collin Ferrel. Italians definitely do have big dicks. Same goes for Jewish men. Every Jewish guy I have hooked up with has a beer can, so anyway, I don't think these dick references are correct. The only one that is consistently spot on is Asian men.

Italians, hands-down.

No, the Irish. Total hot heads. The Italians seethe and plot revenge, they'll get you later. The Irish react in the moment.

The Irish are completely untrustworthy.

Tell me about it.

The Irish are perpetually angry because of their tiny penises.

The dreaded Irish hair trigger temper seems quite idiopathic. There’s no telling what’ll set them off.

So r39 you've never heard of subcultures former from ethnic groups in certain areas. For instance, Americans in Louisiana live a different life and culture than those in Boston. After a few generations those traits become a feature. Same with Italian or Irish Americans. They held onto certain traits from the ghettos and as a response to the rest of American society by their existence in the US. So you can say, it's he Italian in me which means a bit about how Americans viewed Italian immigrants that become a feature to Italian Americans.

So what Joy said is valid to American Italians. Plus, it's her heritage so fuck off.

My father, whose parents met in New Jersey after emigrating from Ireland in the early 20th century, learned to cook from his Italian next-door neighbor lady, who had emigrated from Naples around the same time. And he taught me to cook in a style we now think of as Italian-American. Meat sauce for spaghetti, chicken cacciatore, baked ziti, lasagne all'americana.

My Irish grandmother was a terrible cook. So was my mother. So my father, thankfully, did a lot of the cooking when I was growing up.

When I was old enough to cook for myself, I found the cookbooks of Marcella Hazan and Giuliano Bugialli, and I learned the cuisines of Emilia-Romagna and Tuscany. There's nothing I love more in all the world than lasagne alla bolognese, made according to Marcella's recipe, with ragu alla bolognese, besciamella, and Parmigiano-Reggiano, instead of mozzarella and ricotta.

So, the Italians definitely win for cooking, and if that gets the Irish hot of head, well, sit down and eat, bitches.

R1 reminded me of this Reddit post from last week:

[quote]Hello,

[quote]I'm Italian-American from the state of New York and I'm dating with half Irish half French girl (her father is Irish and her mother is French-Canadian) from Massachusetts.

[quote]Apart of Italians (me) and French, there are a lot of Irish in the East Coast. What do you guys think of them? Have you guys ever been to New York or Massachusetts? I mean my girlfriend is really proud of her Irish heritage through her Irish father. Thank you.

[quote]PS: If I had a baby with my gf, he/she would be 50% Italian, 25% Irish, and 25% French! :D

I don't know, but the way America is going, I don't think any of these countries sent their best. I'm including mine 75% German with a bunch of Nordic shit and thankfully only 2% Russian. Why yes, I did just get my Ancestry.com results yesterday.

You have to be a little nuts to just move across the ocean with little to nothing. Especially back then.

R1 has a point. I've always thought people who are third generation and try to hang onto an ethnicity are a bit ridiculous.

[QUOTE] I think my own temper is more from my mother's Irish side, meaning I get malicious when I drink.

Mary! Do you act like Michael from Boys in the Band?

[quote]I’ll withhold comment on Italians because I don’t want to be accused of being just another white guy with opinions about POC.

Americans are so bizarre with who they consider "white people."

they say Long Island Irish are the biggest hotheads

[quote]In 2022, the Irish and Italians are intermarrying at very high rates--often with each other--and the ethnic stereotypes that were prevalent during the midcentury period 50-75 years ago are much less pronounced. Yes, there are small enclaves here and there where these stereotypes live on, but they're the exception, not the rule

Exactly. People from European backgrounds are all just lumped under the "white people" umbrella now. It's been more than 100 years since the big waves of European immigration and after several generations everybody is just 100% culturally American at this point.

I know this will make the bizarre anti-Italian trolls incredulous with disbelief, but in New England Italian Americans are indistinguishable from any other group of white people at this point. Most of them aren't even religious anymore.

[quote] they say Long Island Irish are the biggest hotheads

¡Gracias a dios, nosotras las mujeres Castellanas de Boston, Massachusetts somos muy tranquilas y divertidas!

[quote] Black is not a country. Judaism is a religion.

Oh, dear.

Italians in America still have old world customs that are handed down from generation to generation. They’re like Jews. They have a distinctive cultural identity. Their interaction and temperament are Italian. Family is a big deal, food is a big, and children staying at home until they’re married. The majority are also bilingual and have been to Italy.

r71 what fucking decade are you living in? The complete ignorance of the modern world that DL eldergays have is mystifying.

There are some pockets of Italian Americans in the NY Metro area who are stereotypical, but most Italian Americans are indistinguishable from any other white people these days.

[quote] Black is not a country. Judaism is a religion.

Black (aka African American) is an ethnicity and identity. Judaism is also an ethnicity. Both groups stay close to their cultural identities regardless of how many generations they’ve been in the US. Both will claim that they’re black or a Jew before they call themselves an American unless you specify that you’re asking them what their nationality is, not ethnicity. Ethnicities come with their own customs and traditions.

[quote] Family is a big deal, food is a big, and children staying at home until they’re married. The majority are also bilingual and have been to Italy.

The Italian American kids I went to school with in CT had the same familial relationships as everyone else, the girls had eating disorders like all the other white girls, they all couldn't wait to get the fuck out of their parents' houses and go to college, and none of them spoke Italian. They mostly did travel to Europe, though.

R63 I knew this is where this thread was going. I took the AncestryDNA test too. And yes I’m black with 25% German, English, French, Danish. So mostly Notthern Germanic Region. And then what tripped me out I have like 2% South Asian flowing through me as well. The rest is from Sub Sahara Africa.

Also you could upload your results to different sites as well. Some are a bit off though.

Ahh well it’s interesting to learn how these sub cultures made up one big culture AMERICA.

Anyway, it’s a great deal of white people with a small percentage of African running through their veins as well.

Go figure…

R64, what happens sometimes is people stay in the same general area as the original immigrants that started the subculture so the culture hangs around.

Not so sure about that R76. There is something called a plastic paddy which means a poseur from America who pretends to be Irish.

R61- Italian food wins over French food too.

R77, see R13.

R78, I agree! It's much less fussy and time-consuming than the French with their hours-long preparations and no room to deviate from technique. I'm biased though! ;)

R13's post makes no sense.

R77, we're talking about American subcultures in the U.S. Opinions held by people in Ireland are not relevant.

Maybe since they are now getting immigrants they will "get it" when a child of Polish immigrants (and the descendants of the child) identify with their Polish ancestry ("Polish-Irish").

This forum is way too New York centric. That's why people here are actually defending this practice of identifying yourself in this manner. No one outside of that place (except maybe Boston) goes around calling themselves Italian, Irish.

R83 do you apply that thinking to everyone or just white people?

R83, you're an idiot.

Italians and Irish descendants born for 2 generations in the western U.S. are still telling me about Nonna and how vital it is to understand whiskey.

Identifying yourself with a Euro-nation you've never lived in -- often never been to -- is a low class and sometimes low IQ marker.

[quote]Americans are so bizarre with who they consider "white people."

This is more so about stupid people who don't understand that Italians /are/ "white people".

I agree R87. It is a mentality limited to people who've barely ever been out of the northeastern, urban neighborhood they grew up in.

R80- The food tastes better too.

I just found this on the web:

That thing at R90 is wearing makeup and has some kind of skin disease.

And this brings me back to the point that most gay men have a natural attraction to F to M trans.

With Americans, the Irish-Americans are more hotheaded to their own tribe, and the Italian-Americans the same. It's usually a family/tribe sort of thing. Polite to everyone else, for the most part.

Truth. Love my F to Ms.

Then why does Al Baldwin get into it with total strangers, R93?

It has a name. It's called rosacea R91.

And don't make fun of people for how they look or for other traits they have no control over.

People ask about ethnicities all the time. I was at a party recently with immigrants from Turkey, Syria, and Croatia and they asked me where my family was from. I didn’t know what to say since my family came over here 250 years ago at least, from probably around ten different countries. I say I’m an American mutt. I definitely don’t identify as anything European although I know people that are equally as mixed that do. If you live in a big urban area full of immigrants, these conversations do happen. I’ve also had British people insisting that my name is British and being kind of pushy about it. I don’t really want to be British. Or Irish for that matter.

[QUOTE] People ask about ethnicities all the time.

No they don't. Where are you that this is happening all the time?

R98, where are you that this is so strange?

Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly types do this kind of thing.

I've never had anyone ask me that question R99. Most people know its rude and nosy. Only in a place like NY that likes to think of itself as consisting of ethnic blocks would one even care.

Perhaps you live somewhere mono-ethnic/racial? It is not uncommon at all in big, multiracial cities and really not that nosy and/or intrusive.

I’m in Washington DC. It’s recent immigrants who ask, not old plain Americans. , I think it’s interesting, you get to hear about places all over the world. I wouldn’t lie about it! My local bar is like the UN. I know people from Pakistan, Russia, Bangladesh, Vietnam, Portugal, El Salvador, Argentina, Philippines, Sudan, Iran , China etc etc and the reason I know where people are from is because I’ve been told, it’s not a secret! And it’s not rude to swap stories about your life.

Christopher Moltisanti : I'm going to hell, T.

Anthony 'Tony' Soprano Sr. : You're not going anywheres but home.

Christopher Moltisanti : I crossed over to the other side.

Anthony 'Tony' Soprano Sr. : You what?

Christopher Moltisanti : I saw the tunnel. And the white light. I saw my father in hell.

Paulie 'Walnuts' Gualtieri : Get the fuck outta here!

Christopher Moltisanti : And the bouncer said that I'd be there, too, when my time comes.

Paulie 'Walnuts' Gualtieri : What bouncer?

Christopher Moltisanti : The Emerald Piper. That's our hell. It's an Irish bar where it's St. Patrick's Day every day forever.

[QUOTE] My local bar is like the UN. I know people from Pakistan, Russia, Bangladesh, Vietnam, Portugal, El Salvador, Argentina, Philippines, Sudan, Iran , China etc etc

A gay bar right next to the UN building. So amaze.

Is the one in R90 F to M? I kind of get that vibe.

R103, when I was young and beautiful, men would ask my ethnicity and insist I had some of whatever their blood was. Maybe it was a come-on, knowing Americans are obsessed with our genetic makeup. Hence Ancestry etc.

Dear Europeans: We are slutty, mutty trash who are American due to getting kicked out of everywhere else. Please be kind. We have chips on our shoulders.

^ Speak for yourself "slutty, mutty trash". A lot of people who came to America did so because they had a lot on the ball and found stuffy old Europe to stifling to soar. They left the lazy dullards behind 😏

^ *too*

R87 Well....the Moors.

Italians if sober

Irish if drunk

That’s a spicy meat-a ball!

I'm of Irish and Italian descent, and I'd be hard-pressed to make that decision. I have hotheaded relatives on both sides.

And I can get hotheaded too!

I follow the advice of the lat Dr. Joy Browne ("Ann Landers on the Radio"), whenever I'll be at a gathering with certain relatives -- Be cheerful and act stupid.

So R113, which trait did you get from each side? Start with the junk and then work your way to cooking skills.

Makes me laugh in Real Housewives of New Jersey when they go on and on about how Italian they are. It’s cringey to watch sometimes, eg “as Italians, we love food, as Italians, we love Christmas” etc

R115, but they do not respect Prostitution Whores.

In danger here because am wading in to something I know little about, being English rather than American ( and therefore equally a mix, probably, but further back in time.)

Anyway, here goes.

I have always been impressed that some US families relate culturally back to their European descendants who migrated, and want to continue to honour that. It’s continuity and a sort of respect, and a sort of anchoring point.

I would have thought. I can see it might get overbearing and artificial if taken to extremes though.

Arabs are more HOT HEADED than either of those groups.

Armenians will slit your throat and curse your mother when they slip in your blood.

r110 DNA testing has shown that Italians don't have much Moor blood. The Moors were more of a ruling class who didn't mix with the locals, like the British in India.

[quote] being English rather than American ( and therefore equally a mix, probably, but further back in time.)

The English have a lot of French and Scandinavian blood.

Italians are worse.

[quote] Identifying yourself with a Euro-nation you've never lived in -- often never been to -- is a low class and sometimes low IQ marker.

Our resident antisemite chimes in.

Italians were relegated to ghettos when they arrived. They were kept out of jobs and seen as troublemakers thanks to their pro-union stance. Groups that are pushed into ghettos have a strong cultural identity and for good reason. They depended upon one another.

Europeans don’t understand that the US is a melting pot. It doesn’t have a set culture. Its culture is made up of subcultures.

R120- What about the MOOPS?

I grew up in New Jersey and I agree most Italians and Irish Americans are culturally just white. Same deal with Jews, Hungarians and Polish. Especially in the suburbs. Some do still pass on their culture but usually it's those from metropolitan areas who are insular, big on marrying inside and maintained connections to relatives in the motherlands. The Guido culture isn't Italian culture. It's more just NY/NJ party douchebag culture that includes every type of white people with a spray tan and jelled hair. A lot of obnoxious Northeastern qualities are stereotyped as "Italian", "Irish" or "Jewish" when it's more a densely populated area with a high income and high competition. The confrontational attitude is just an adaptation to a fast-paced environment and highly packed population.

Italians, Irish and others also immigrated to the South and culturally Southerners. I think actually Southerners of all colors are the most hot-headed due to the culture of honor which takes any slight insensitivity as a threat to a person's entire sense of self. Also the intense heat and religious oppression in some areas don't help.

[QUOTE] Our resident antisemite chimes in.

And our resident hall monitor weighs in with baseless attacks. Feel better after posting that toots?

What about people who wave the Puerto Rico flag and plaster it over everything they own? Does that impress you, or do you find it gauche?

Irish people remain calm when speaking to them, even if things don't go their way, Italians go from zero to fucking asshole ALMOST as fast as a fucking Jewish woman, Indian douche or some dumb bitch from the West Indies--The unholy triad of entitled cuntery.

Some Blacks can be more hotheaded than either the Irish or the Italians.

R131 No, just No!

We have nothing to do with this conversation.

R131 That's because most African Americans are culturally Southern thus have that culture of honor. African immigrants are completely different and act more similar to Northern Europeans or Asians in being more stoic and industrious.

I'm always amazed at the number of anthropologists that gather here at DL. It's a regular brain trust 🤔

R134, you have a criminal skull. I can tell by the way you type.

^ Are you a lump reader?

R135- He also types fat.

^ No I don't, but I did pick up on a lot of dumb typing here

Stormfront.org has a section where nonmembers can post. They would not allow this thread. Datalounge is last bastion of free speech

America was built on white criminality & the Irish and Italians were a part of helping to perpetuate that criminality.

So there's that!

[quote]Irish people remain calm when speaking to them, even if things don't go their way, Italians go from zero to fucking asshole ALMOST as fast as a fucking Jewish woman, Indian douche or some dumb bitch from the West Indies--The unholy triad of entitled cuntery.

The US's crime statistics clearly show who the hot heads are.

America was built on white criminality.

America was LITERALLY built on the backs of trans sex workers of color.

R142 white criminals are put in jail . Blacks, not so much. Whites ended slavery. Asians and Africans still have slavery.

[quote]America was built on white criminality.

And non-whites are clamoring to move here.

We Italians don't become hotheaded. We just get even.

Both Irish & Italian have loud, constant, passionate tempers that boil up over the smallest incursions.

But if you manage to transgress in such a way as to rile the usually placid and temperate British man, you will know what anger really is.

Matters not whether you wake the white Saxon wyvern, or the red Brythonic draig....

Apparently Iraqis are hot headed

I'm always entertained by threads like this. If there aren't Europeans whining that Americans don't have the same perspective as them, there are American 4chan/stormfront refugees whining about the thread not focusing on 'teH bLackkS!!11!!'.

[quote] African immigrants are completely different and act more similar to Northern Europeans or Asians in being more stoic and industrious.

r133, as someone who has worked and lived around them, they aren't stoic, especially when compared to Asians. As for being industrious, if that were the case, their continent wouldn't be filled with 3rd world countries and developing countries that are only developing because of massive foreign investment. Harsh but true. The ones that immigrate here do tend to be less apathetic and more driven than their racial counterparts from the Americas, but that same thing can be said about them in comparison to the Africans in their home country.

R149 You ignore the fact that most Asian countries are not developed either (only South Korea, Japan and Singapore are developed) and the fact that African countries are less than a century old and were created by colonists who made lines based on which was which countries territory. There are so many different ethnic groups and tribes that created so many division that it makes it difficult to form a national identity. Immigrants in general are more educated, hardworking and often come from the affluent sphere. Most white Americans came here from when their European countries were still poor countries and would be looked at by the wealthy Anglo-Americans how we look at Mexicans today. History just repeats itself.