“Verse” men do not exist

What a scintillating revelation that's never been made before.

[quote]Who’s with me?

Verse men do so exist! Shakespeare, Wordsworth, Shelley. . .

De facto, happy to see you are here, I thought the mob got you excommunicated once again.

Why are fat nazi turds like Op still allowed to post their nonsense here?

[quote]Who’s with me? —D3facto

I think it is safe to say that with the exception of the equally deluded r4, no one.

But why are you so much against verse?

Bossy bottoms can be hot.

R4 Thanks, hon! I'll never succumb to the mob... I know the more witty and clever posters here appreciate me, so I stick around for you guys :)

You're the one who sounds like the bossy bottom, dear.

I think that Defacto is a bossy bottom, but I like it.

I'd be more apt to believe tops and bottoms don't exist.

I don't recall knowing a total top or total bottom that wasn't a trainwreck by some means.

There's many a top that will suck a dick as there are bottoms that enjoy getting sucked. So, are they not vers?

And not quite sure how those that only engage in other play, like frottage, engage in the labeling... the concept often crosses over into dom or sub, passive or active for the lot of them.

Hence, the discussion of top, bottom or vers continue to carry those socially (mis)gendered stereotypes and assumptions.

from the str8 world, there's disbelief in gay tops.. and from the lgbt+ the ever prevalent hostility towards them for the same reasons --- which I'd garner is the continuation of homophobia by viewing the top as a predator/masc and the bottom as a victim/effeminate. . . and how it becomes twisted under the liberal accepted branches of homophobia, like modern feminism. . . let alone how much more damaged it becomes among the radical wings.

still, fewer believe in switches. . . but most enjoy a good lashing now and again.

Of course they do. I, myself, am in one such mixed marriage.

R12, going by DeFacto's own account (last we heard, he hadn't had sex in over five years), he is not qualified to talk about sex at all.

Vers men do exist, you don't have to be 50-50 to be vers and the extent to which you want to top/bottom can change over time. These are all things that are known to people who actually have sex.

It is as bizarre for DeFacto to make pronouncements on this matter as it is for a certain poster to participate in threads on anal sex and kinks when she (a woman) admits elsewhere that she's never had sex.

R13, same here.

I forgot how retarded you were, defatto

Boring.

And I'm not easily bored.

[quote]continuation of homophobia by viewing the top as a predator/masc and the bottom as a victim/effeminate. . .

It's not homophobia, it's accurate.

and it's a beautiful thing.

this is all the school of nihilism that seeks to disrupt any and all power imbalances.

but the power dynamic between a lustful, macho top bursting with raw sexuality and a hungry, passionate bottom who wants to please his man is a wonderful thing. i accept reality and celebrate it instead of angrily lashing back against it.

Wrong OP some men are verse. I avoid them like the plague. Give me a bottom who knows and loves being a bottom and I am happy.

[quote] “Verse” men are just bossy bottoms who can’t accept the fact that they are bottoms and always will be.

[quote] Give me a bottom who knows and loves being a bottom and I am happy

My dude, we're saying the same thing, just coming at it from opposite angels :)

[Quote]De facto, happy to see you are here, I thought the mob got you excommunicated once again.

Give it time.

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OP have you encountered any of these people in the real world or is this all theoretical? You strike me as someone who rarely gets laid.

OP hates poetry!

He's a regressive!

why do you have to think so hard about sex?

it's a boner-killer

Sometimes I feel all aggressive and want to push my weiner into holes. Sometimes I feel passive and want to be dominated.

Maybe my testosterone levels ebb and flow. Maybe I ate too much soy. But my partner would have to 'surrender the pink' once in a while.

[quote]going by DeFacto's own account (last we heard, he hadn't had sex in over five years), he is not qualified to talk about sex at all.

[quote]You strike me as someone who rarely gets laid.

Ding ding ding!

It is cute when DL's celibates go on and make pronouncements as if they're any kind of expert in sex and sexuality. Porn isn't real!

I find it very lame and sad when gay men get into these rigid roles. “I’m a bottom, I don’t rim.” “I’m a top, I don’t suck dick.” Who the fuck came up with these stupid rules?

Our bodies are pleasure centers. Sticking your cock in another man’s ass is extremely pleasurable. Being penetrated by another man is also extremely pleasurable. I refuse to give up either of these things just to try and conform to some idiot’s idea of “correct” gay roles.

Besides, when you’re in a long-term relationship, experiencing both top and bottom roles with your partner is yet another way to build intimacy.

This is a very hot flip-flop scene, with both young men enjoying their holes and poles equally (NSFW).

R27 not everyone is you, not everyone is a version of you. People like what they like. This is not about rigid roles but people pursuing what works for them. Allow others to exist as they are.

I respect everyone and what someone does in bed is not my business, but why wasting a perfectly good cock?

I bottom when asked, and top when needed. Left to me, is rather make out and cuddle with a cute guy.

And cue trolldar.

I love how DeFacto bumped himself at R21 but didn't sign the post (even though he usually gets a masochistic thrill out of signing posts and then taking flak for them). Such a creep.

R33 He is not a creep. He is sweet.

Verse does not exist but prose does.

I don't mind Defacto except for the self-loathing part. I got no time for that.

I do love the ingenuity with authenticated users, tho.

Thanks r34, cuz Ive been called defacto too! I'm not sure what it means though. I prefer Mary! as it's more my generation.

[quote] Maybe my testosterone levels ebb and flow. Maybe I ate too much soy.

R25 what's soy sauce got to do with testosterone and being a passive bottom. Worried, i like soy.

They say that soy has a lot of phytoestrogen R38. But I think it shouldn't interfere in healthy men's hormonal system.

Is that why all Asians are bottoms?

R40 Nah, it was just an excuse they gave you, cause they didn't want to fuck you and you know how polite they are.

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What r14 said.

We all know you are a sad loser who hasn't had a man touch you in years Defacto. Your viewpoints about sex are not much different than some straight incel.

R44 the fact that I have standards and don’t just get on my knees for any random guy is not the insult you think it is.

R34, he wants DeSantis to be president, and he wants gay marriage and gay sex to be outlawed. He is not “sweet.”

Being a "top" or "bottom" is just a label that comes from heteronormative expectations as derived from a misogynistic history of mandatory gender roles. Just be what you want to be and stop trying to apply antiquated personalities to where you stick your dick.

R47 No it's not. It adds a layer of mystique to gay sex. "Vers" takes that away and makes it just two bottoms mashing their bodies together... boring.

The power dynamics of top/bottom is full of amazing sexual tension. "Vers" is an atheistic cheap imitation of real gay sex... with defined roles.

What a sad, strange little world you live in.

I need a good laugh someone post defaturds hideous fat mug again.

Aaah, that wasn't him, r50. Keep up. DeFatso is far less attractive.

It's usually written as "vers" just FYI - as it's a contraction of "versatile" whereas "verse" refers to writing. Yes I'm pedantic, but I just couldn't not state that from the outset.

Anyway, VERS men do exist of course. I'm one of them, even if I'm not 50/50 (more like 95/5 top/bottom) and I personally think that any guy who is 100% on either end of the spectrum is missing out and is probably not truly good at either role.

Though I do tend to agree that flip-fucking isn't all that - I like seeing it in porn but in real life, the rare occasions when I'm in the mood to bottom, I am not really in a 'top' frame of mind so I'd rather stick to just that within the same session. I think the exception might be in a threesome where I'd possibly want to do a bit of everything, just to make the most out of it.

I'm honestly vers. Generally, I like to top shorter/younger guys. I like to bottom for older/taller guys.

But, if it's important for you to think I'm truly a bottom who can't accept it, OP, so be it.

However, life is a lot more interesting when you live your own.

I like to top older/taller guys and bottom for shorter/younger guys.

When will DeFugTurd be be hanged, drawn and quartered? It's crime against the humanity just to be DeFugTurd. What a sad, miserable, wretched, abject life it scrapes by.

R55= bitchy bitter bottom trying to knee cap the competition!

R56 Your only competition is Ed.win the seacow in ugliest obese bottom troll of Datalounge.

I'm a top, but I don't mind some cock up my ass once in awhile. I much prefer pumping my cock inside of a tight hole.

Of course “vers”” men exist. It’s beyond ludicrous to state otherwise. And good for them! I’m just not one of them. Bottoming is just not my thing. I don’t think about it, don’t seek it out, don’t really think I’m missing anything, and don’t fantasize about it when I masturbate. I’m a self-identified top who is totally obsessed with beautiful male asses. I don’t look down on bottoms or see them as emasculated in any way. In fact it’s the exact opposite. Although I do see power dynamics and role playing as really hot. In my fantasies very “masculine” presenting men-of which I’m not particularly one-love to give up their holes. It takes all kinds. I like what I like and I don’t want to be shamed for that either.

R59 If you could meet me, I bet you would change your mind.

But will you suck his dick if your partner wants you to, r59?

If he wouldn't R61, the partner should chase him away.

So strange that, when DeFacto is bumping threads, he never uses his username du jour. See R42 and R43.

R63 Defacto bumps threads a lot. News at 11.

^ That clearly wasn't the point. The point is that you usually sign posts (presumably for the purpose of getting attention, even if it's 99% negative) but you don't sign bump posts because you know how toxic you are, i.e. if people saw who was bumping the thread, the discussion would focus on how disliked you are rather than the thread topic.

Isn't it kind of logical that you would sign a post where you are commenting or giving opinion on something, but not the bump R65

R65 I’ve never tried to hide the fact that I bump threads. If I did, I’d bump with a ghostie. What you’re saying is not logical. You’re just obsessed with me. Sry sweetie, I don’t fuck bottoms.

Defacto, in spite of being a sub total bottom, you are the manliest DLer.

R68 Wow! Words I never expected to hear! I’m speechless! But honored.

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