What happened?

Obviously. They were pegged as desperate fame whores and gullible as fuck.

[Quote]What happened to that, was it just a Scientology recruitment thing?

Yes, but the English are not so gullible.

Tom Cruise is such a fuckwit. He can't have friends outside his religion? Apparently there are only 35K clams in the US anyway

R2 There's a Church of Scitentology chapel in London and ten years ago the UK Supreme Court declared Scientology to be a religion.

I’ve been watching Leah Remini’s series on Netflix.

The series is devastating. I thought I knew a lot about this cult, but boy, was I wrong.

What strikes me is how so many of these people agreed to be separated from their children for years and years.

Who in the world allows their MINOR CHILDREN to float off in some ship, in order to do hard labor? Who allows their child to be subjected to an actual labor camp in the middle of the desert?

Brain washed or not, these are just horrible, horrible people and they should be arrested for abandoning their children into a life of child slavery.

Scientology is nothing but a human trafficking organization that somehow convinced the most fucked up people ever, to pay for their own trafficking and the trafficking of their own kids.

I am now much more educated on why law enforcement can’t really do much to shut this down, but it’s stupefying to realize that this is an organized crime set up, that’s allowed to kidnap and hold children and adults against their will, right here on American soil, and still be granted tax exemption while not having to worry about the Feds raiding their facilities and arresting those holding people captive.

It’s truly fucking unbelievable.

This is probably one of the most evil organizations I’ve ever learned of, with the worst being the Catholic Church.

Unfuckingbelievable.

How on earth do people get suckered into staying with such a harmful cult? How can anyone in modern times even justify aligning themselves to something so sinister?

All props and respect to Leah Remini for doing this series. And she’s a better person than me, because I would have NEVER spoken to my mother again, had she forced me into a cult as a child.

R5, it’s disgusting.

Cults are all about separating people from their families. But it’s just as bad when these freaks raise their children inside them, because the kids wind up severely damaged from it. I knew a girl who was raised in one of those 70s hippie commune cults, and she’s a fucking mess.

Also, OP, remember when they were courting Oprah?

R6, I cried while hearing some pretty heartbreaking stories on the Netflix series.

The story told by the woman who said that at age 13, she was forced to walk out of their Hollywood building named “Big Blue”, leaving her mother behind and becoming instantly homeless because she refused to sign the billion year Sea Org contract, just gutted me.

My heart went out to her, and I wanted to give her the biggest hug.

Many Scientology policies and tactics have seeped into all areas of life, whether we realize it or not.

Corporations share much in common with Scientology-policies. Ugh. What a fucked up world we live in.

Probably a slapping incident.

I still remember Lainey Gossip said Beckham and Cruise were an item.

Were they, r7? Recently watching the Tom Cruise jumping on her couch episode was super creepy, especially the way TC manhandled a shy Katie Holmes onto the stage with encouragement from Oprah

Katie Holmes is a mother-fucking super hero for getting herself and her daughter out of that deranged cult.

R12. You’re damned right about that. Someone should make a movie about it. I posted here before, but I used to work at The Seagram Building (Park Ave betw 52 and 53). On the 52nd side (where entrance to Four Seasons is), is where we (disgusting) smokers congregated. Across the street (the south side of 52 betw Park and Lex) is a loading dock entrance (large) for workers/equipment/trucks etc going into that building (where BlackStone is by the way). Over a series of days, I watched odd caravans of blacked out extra large SUVs enter in that side/worker entrance. Three times I saw a female, quite short w huge Jackie O sunglasses depart amidst Security Guards and even at that time I thought it looked like Katie. Then NY Post (I know) exposed that it was with a law firm in that building that Katie’s dad collaborated to pull it all off. Burner phones. Decoy hotel reservations. Her dad was/is a hero and a smart guy. Someone needs to research all the behind the scenes skullduggery. There is more there than any of us know.

^ In the interest of safety for her and Siri I doubt we'll ever know the whole story

Why did she (Katie) even hook up with Tom?

By then, all of the Scientology info was already making its way on to the internet.

Google is your friend, in a case like this.

IDGAF who you are or hoe in awe I am of some dude who’s a movie star- if you’re telling me that you can read minds and move objects with your mind because you’re “clear”, I’m getting the fuck away from you asap.

They probably hid all of this from her, and probably convinced her that the internet stuff was just bad PR aimed at taking the church down.

ALL religions are cult like and sheer insanity, but this one stands out due to the disconnection policies and the amount of money these people are strong armed into donating to the church or harassed into purchasing very expensive courses.

People gave MILLIONS of their hard earned cash to this cult, with little possibility of ever recovering that money.

I can’t imagine paying out millions of dollars over decades of my life, only to find out I was hustled out of that for an ending where I learn about a science fiction novel character named Xenu!

It’s the equivalent of going to church forever, and being brainwashed into believing that Jesus is a supernatural entity, when indeed he was just a man who was murdered by psychopaths because he rebelled against the system of his era, except way more expensive, with your family being torn apart to shreds.

I LOATHE this David Miscaviage person. I guess he’s this irate midget, who runs around beating the shit out of anyone who angers him.

I’m not wishing I’ll on him, but if anyone deserves a huge and fatal heart attack on the spot, it’s him.

And I’m blown away that Tom Cruise and other successful actors have thrown away all of their credibility for the sake of this organization.

WHY?

No way that they haven’t read shit online about how this is a cult. These clams must have some deep shit on these people, because I cannot find a reasonable explanation for sticking around for something that is so evil and frowned upon by normal and reasonable people.

Allegedly, all it took for Paul Haggis to GTFO was spending a day or two on Google, reading about all of the horrific malfeasance his church engaged in for decades. I mean, here’s a smart man, who fell for this shit for a very long time.

Don’t these people ask themselves questions?

I started asking myself questions about the Bible very early on, as a kid.

I’m grateful I never stopped asking myself questions and challenged myself to be brutally honest, because had I not, I’d still believe in things aren’t physically possible or real.

Nothing had damaged society more than organized religion. It’s the toot of all e veil, and I’m profoundly grateful I had the intelligence and consistency to reason my way out of the totally unreasonable.

* the root of all evil ^

Americans had zero interest in the Beckhams. Their fame didn't translate to the US. And they weren't all that attractive by American standards. Same with Robbie Williams. In the US he was considered homely but in Britain he was supposed to be sex on a stick.

R17, Robbie Williams is or was attractive, even by American standards.

No r18

David is attractive by US standards and is well-known. His wife and children aren't. The Spice Girls are purely seen as a 90s pop act and nobody buys Victoria's brand. His kids are unremarkable in every way. They were never going to be big stars in The US. They assumed they could be like The Osbournes or Kardashians or the Smith family but they lack their amorality, stunts of desperation and outrageous behavior. Despite being annoying, the Beckhams are well-adjusted and seem like a caring family.

Aren't they billionaires now? One of their kids hit it big or something.

They're uninteresting white trash and the US has plenty of that already. Beckham is a soccer star. No one in the US gives a shit about the game. Posh is tacky and unpleasant. In the US the Spice Girls were a novelty act. The kids are boring, talentless nobodies.

They married Brooklyn off to a billionaire's daughter. They're going to also try to pimp out their other kids to whatever wealthy man or woman they can find. Romeo is a legit model but he's not going to age well.

David Beckham is more famous for being a whore. He strips down and sexually objectifies himself. Posting thirst traps for gays for decades. He's famous for being famous in The US. Vicky B is not considered remotely hot by American standards like Kate Beckinsale, Kate Moss, Kiera Knightley, Elizabeth Hurley or Alice Eve. Mel C and Baby Spice are considered the hottest Spice Girls.

R[5], what you wrote, really made me think.

David Beckham, Cary Elwes, Orlando Bloom and the such are novelties to Americans since most British men are not associated with beauty.

David's voice - instant soft-on. I'm convinced he got all the tattoos to try to counter it