Why is Oprah so afraid to come out?

O's orientation was being discussed on the VIew one time.

The panelist said she was straight. Rosie said: "Well, she and Gayle call each other every day, share their secrets, go on vacations together...they are there for each other. (Beat.) They're a little gay."

I know! It’s so silly not to come out when you’ve already reached the peak of your career.

She might be straight. Women have very intense, almost intimate relationships sometimes.

I am in one with one of my friends, we've been close for 30-something years - no sexual attraction there, though.

It's of no interest to me what she does. She just keeps getting hounded about this.

It's pathetic how gay people hound straight people for not being gay.

Have the courage to be a minority. A lot of people are.

I really think she is straight, maybe dabbled at some point. Honestly, does it matter?

R6 She’s fake through and through. According to her family, she grossly exaggerated her family’s poverty. Would be nice to see her be honest about one thing.

I think Oprah has been asexual since she was about 25.

Come out of where, Dorothy (what irony)???

Black issues, just like Gayle, and Whoopi, and Queen Latifa, and, poor, poor pitiful Whitney... Over and over again!!!

[quote]I think Oprah has been asexual since she was about 25.

I can see this, honestly. It would also explain all of the lesbian rumors/speculations. It's impossible for most sexuals to fathom the possibility that a certain subset of the population legitimately has no desire to fuck anyone. If you show no sexual interest in the opposite sex, the common conclusion is just to automatically assume you're gay, because "what other options are there??" /s

I've had the same rumors following me since 6th grade because of this. It is what it is.

I think she is straight. She has just had it with men

She literally ran down the street chasing John Tesh (!) 's car in hysterics. She was raped. She has Gayle to talk to and Steadman for appearances but the sexual parts are closed to all I'd say.

Well, she and Gayle call each other every day, share their secrets, go on vacations together...they are there for each other. (Beat.) They're a little gay."

My best friend and I are like this but we are certainly not fucking

When you go through menopause, many women lose all interest in sex. I think that Oprah and Gayle have never been sexually intimate, but in every other way, they are partners. I wonder if Gayle gets to spend Oprah’s money.

If Oprah comes out Stedman is out of a job

Please, like Steadman GAF.

^ So, you would put an old Black man out of a job? Nice 😏

Probably cause she's straight and gay only in minds of delusional people, like OP.

She dated the late Rodger Ebert.

Of course she's straight, she's been in a hot romance with Stedman for 40 years. Everyone knows they can't keep their hands off each other. Gayle is just their "third" for occasional spice 😜

I'm not so sure she's gay. Just because she has a very close friend, who is also a Woman, doesn't mean they're lovers.

I think she just went off sex as her star rose to superstardom. She had some well-documented painful relationships WITH MEN and once she rose to mega success she had a career at the centre of her life, and she knew she was never going to get a man on her extraordinary level. Gayle is her soul mate and companion, but there's no licking or scissoring.

If Steadman is free, give him my number.

It’s an open secret in Hollywood and they get away with the hypocrisy because nobody fucks with O!

of course gayle gets to spend Oprah's money. Oprah bought an apt for Gayle in NYC years ago. It was on 57th street and 3rd Ave. They even had a segment where Nate decorated the apt (penthouse if my memory serve or very high floor). Gayle lived there but it was Oprah who bought the apt. But it was sold a few years ago.

"I'm not even kind of a lesbian," Winfrey says. Persistent gossip to the contrary annoys her, she says. If it were true, she asks: "Why would you want to hide it? That is not the way I run my life."

Wait, what happened with John Tesh?

Apparently she was obsessed with Tesh and the loss of control really bothered her. She's a control freak. I get it. I don't like that loss of control either. Who likes to feel like a hysterical loved up teenager, at the mercy of someone else's whims.

Someone was obsessed with John Tesh?

Oprah wanna blond white man...lean body, blue eyes.

And he wanted her. Apparently they were good together. I can see that. There are similarities. They are allegedly still good friends to this day.

because the straight Black community is homophobic. Straight black men and women have a superiority complex over gay black people.

"He's mine, bitch!"

I mean she doesn't even try to pass Stedman off as her lover anymore, does she? I think she and GAYle are living together in Hawaii and Montecito and that's why GAYle is always absent from CBS Mornings (which is a blessing, all they need now is for Nate to be shown the door).

They're mine, boys and girls... So, keep on guessing 🤔

Could you imagine Oprah performing cunnilingus or scissoring with Gayle? Honestly, can you really?

I just doesn't happen.

They eat cake and scissor roses in the garden.

I don't think she's gay. I'm sure she would have come out already. Really, what's the big deal now, especially with all of her success and wealth.

@r37, Can you imagine Stedman rockin' her world? 😳

She doesn't pretend anymore that he does. Like many couples of their vintage they are friends.

At this point in her life I don't think she's afraid of coming out, exactly. It just requires no effort to stay in. Many of the responses in this thread illustrate why. There's a big blind spot when it comes to women who are frau icons, and exploiting it lets her enjoy some semblance of privacy.

Sexy time with my big black Gay stud, I mean Sted. Who's never really had any life outside of OprahWorld, except for the Gay bars in Chicago he was frequently seen at 🤔

Was he really seen in gay bars?

Maybe she doesn't want people to know she licks pussy. Nothing wrong with that.

Oprah transcends antiquated notions of race and sexuality.

"Was he really seen in gay bars? "

Back in the day Stedman was quite well known around the Chicago Gay scene

[quote]Why can’t she just admit that she and Gayle are dyke lovers?

Because Oprah leads a celebrate life - she and Gayle haven't been lovers for decades.

So, no sex = no sexuality according to Oprah. She's said she isn't a lesbian, but has SHE ever said she was straight?

Oprah should come out about exactly how many donuts 🍩 she eats a day.

celebrate s/b celibate

Coming out would be suicide. I'm not sure why gay men would want Oprah to be gay. Blacks are not attractive so who cares. Oprah has nothing to offer anybody.

"Blacks are not attractive so who cares"

😳

The racists are up early this morning

R50- RACISTS are not attractive either

[quote]It’s an open secret in Hollywood and they get away with the hypocrisy because nobody fucks with O!

Exactly, no one in Hollywood would dare out her, she has too much power and there would be too many repercussions. She has to keep up the facade she started in the 80s, if she changed her story now it would negate what she's peddled all these years.

Same goes for Clooney, the Italian press know but they protect him plus he's so charming and friendly and sends his neighbors personal letters apologizing for the disruption caused by construction at his villa and other niceties. Also, he has the polizia in his back pocket....

Because she doesn't look good in flannel.

Excuse me? We're rockin' this look...

they definitely fucked. probably had too much wine and fooled around at the very least!

R56 not how it works

She can't come out. Her Frau fans would go: "Bitch, you lied to us!". Oprah cares (too much) about her current social standing. Once you got the taste of superiority, you can't let go of it. Why do you think Madonna can't just retire? She holds on to the idea of still being a pop icon worshiped by millions.

Even a house negro got severely punished and Oprah is too dark and ugly to be let in house. The white fraud are only liberal to a degree.

[quote] Why do you think Madonna can't just retire? She holds on to the idea of still being a pop icon worshiped by minions.

There, fixed it for you.

r60, huh? You think her minions DON'T worship her?

I just find it amazing for a woman of Oprah's wealth that her feet are in such back condition.

Money & Power are drugs to some. Look at the horrendous stuff people do to get & keep them(alooking at you Mr. Putin, among others). Yes, she has loads of both, but as an addict there is never enough.

And O is definitely an addict..see food &all the stuff she auctions off that she has hoarded, just for a strt

If being gay would give her more money & power she would announce it in a NY minute.

As a childhood sexual abuse survivor she probably goes one of 2 ways..Either: G string as in whoreish sex addict or big white cotton Granny pants sex avoidant.

Many obese people who are incest survivors used that fat to make them less attractive/vulnerable.

It's a generational thing. Her pride and ego refuse to allow her to admit to telling "lies" for her entire career, because then it would expose her to other forms of scrutiny. Same reason Seacrest remains firmly stuck in that closet.

People always assume that celebrities don't care about public opinion and even after a backlash, laugh all the way to the bank. But that isn't true. Celebrities care about public / their peers' / their fans' opinion even when they resent the public, their peers, their fans at times. It's like with families, you hate them (most of the time), but still care what they think of you to the point a single heated argument can ruin your whole day or week.

I think Oprah thinks that sexuality is beneath her to discuss. That there are so much more interesting things about her than her sexuality.

Maybe she’s not gay, OP.

It is common for black women to gave girlfriends who are extremely close, almost to the point of acting like siblings. DL doesn’t understand this. It’s a cultural thing, not a gay thing.

Right R67 and R68. She might be straight...*horrors* (on here).

" She might be straight...*horrors*"

But her boyfriend isn't 😉

R62 feet look ok compared to face. She's not a romantic lead in the movies like someone like woody Allen who has to be perfect head to toes.

[quote] Was he really seen in gay bars?

No. It's just part of the Oprah-is-gay mythology.

^ Yes, it was common knowledge around Chicago. r72, is a Frau who's can't take that her heroes may be Gay. Perhaps DataLounge isn't right for you. The door is that way>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Because they aren't. No relationship ever would have lasted this long. They are friends. Not saying Oprah is 100% straight but they aren't a couple.

^ I'm talking about Stedman, who are you talking about?

What in the name of all that is holy made her sweat a waste of skin like John Tesh? Her self esteem at the time must’ve been subterranean…

^ It's the chin, women can't resist a lantern chin

r75, I was replying to OP post. Should have been more clear. Talking about Gayle.

Il faut toujours cultiver le mystere, cheri...

Look how it took Queen Letifah. Blacks are ridiculous when it comes to coming out. They're rabid homophobes.

I never had to "come out" because I was a heterosexualist until the day I died.

Nippy, seldom right…

[quote]As a childhood sexual abuse survivor she probably goes one of 2 ways..Either: G string as in whoreish sex addict or big white cotton Granny pants sex avoidant.

I'm with R63, and I tend to believe she's the latter. Food addiction serves a dual purpose for avoidant abuse survivors. It fills the emotional void left by lack of intimacy, and once you're fat no one expects you to have any type of sexual life.

Oprah probably cares much more about her TVQ score or her standing on the Forbes list than getting her rocks off.

And Giada Diilaurentis is also an incest survivor and she is rumored to be a very sexually active woman who has had numerous affairs during and after her marriage.

You would think Whitney Houston would be a cautionary tale, but instead it's "She was a stupid crack ho, I'm a lot smarter. This won't happen to me! I won't end up drowning in some bathtub of some low rent hotel!"

Because Oprah is a snake oil salesperson who gave us great people like Dr. Oz and "Dr." Phil.

86- Dr Phil is a practicing HOMOSEXUAL

According to Kitty Kelley's tell all book about Oprah she has had a fair amount of lesbian experiences in the past. A man from her past who knew about her gay experiences was given money by Oprah and delivered by Gayle in order to keep his mouth shut. Straight she ain't. I suspect she is at least bisexual. Stedman is a man of 'convenience' for her for the sake of appearances. Oprah is not going to open her mouth any time soon about her 'secrets'. Sometimes I thinks she is confused about herself more than anything else and channels all her energy into business and making money.

R13 nails it, I suspect. If she is a lez or has ever been with women, it may have been as a result of the abuse she experienced as a child.

I think Gayle has become her family - she had issues with her mother, sister and brother and only grudgingly got along with her father (or the man who acted as her father and gave her her last name). I don't know if she continued on in a relationship with the second sister also named Patricia.....I suspect that fizzled out but who knows.

At this level of fame, she has only a few trusted people and I can see her being with Stedman (who may well be gay and is apparently as exciting as a wet rag) and Gayle, who's been a long time friend.

I am not Oprah and not famous but my family is made up of my spouse and a few close friends. I had a decent relationship with my parents, but one is dead and the other is in the throes of dementia. One of my siblings is dead, one is mostly estranged from all of us, another one has a terribly shitty spouse that has turned them into a full on Trumper. (And then there's the sibling who doesn't know any of us exist yet....)

So yes, I keep it simple, with those I can trust. I'm Team O on this one.

^ 🤣😂 ^

Don't dump him on our doorstep

^ For r87

You misread it, R61

My mother is a black 69 year-old, who is like Oprah an incest survivor (brother sexually assaulted her for 7 years). She is also very erudite, well spoken and proper just as Oprah is.

My mother is heterosexual and her molestation never got in the way of relationships with men. She is clearly attracted to men. She is an attractive woman and has dated/married the gamut — white, Asian, and black men.

My experience is that black Boomer women and men who are perpetually, lifelong singletons are probably gay. Condoleeza Rice is an example.

No one believes Oprah and Stedman are lovers. Oprah doesn’t even pretend they are either, as there is zero chemistry between them in videos I’ve seen.

Just like with Tyler Perry, Oprah feels she can’t come out due to her conservative upbringing and the expectation that blackness always supersedes gayness. There’s a fear that if people knee the truth, they’d reject her. So she stays closeted.

The video below is proof Tyler Perry is gay, as if it weren’t already obvious by looking at him.

[quote] You misread it, [R61]

I think you did. My post meant that she THINKS she is still worshiped by millions and still on top. And then you claim she thinks she is worshiped by minions? That doesn't even work as a joke.

FWIW, nearly 20 years ago I had an acquaintance who worked out at the same fitness club as Stedman (sorry, can't recall the name). He and Graham had similar workout hours and said the few times Latinas worked out there, Graham would try to pick them up.

OK, I wasn't reply to what you meant to say. Just what you did say. It could be read either way. Even so, it's a joke and not worth 3-4 replies for clarification.

I think she's a homoromantic asexual. A clumsy term but I can't think of anything else. As in she's emotionally attached to women but has no interest in sex basically. She was molested as a young girl, so I can see that turning her off from sex due to the trauma. Also, her personality is androgynous, she's very large and take charge and is very driven and narcissistic to achieve her goals. Even though she did try to "doll up", she never projected an image of sexiness that many unsexy famous women have desperately tried. If she was born in this era, she'd call herself non-binary.

Oprah is also from the generation of "don't ask, don't tell." She grew up in the South and in the Black community. I think people who were single were assumed to be gay (or "different", "special", "not like the other girls or gays" in a euphemistic way) but also as long as they don't say it, it's ambiguous enough to not have faced discrimination. You could live with your "sister" or "brother" or "cousin" who looks nothing like you who would really be your lover. Suspicion would occur but unless you specifically was making out or holding hands with your lover, people would mind their business.

* "not like other girls or boys"

[quote] ^ Yes, it was common knowledge around Chicago. [R72], is a Frau who's can't take that her heroes may be Gay. Perhaps DataLounge isn't right for you. The door is that way>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>

Ridiculous. It is a common urban myth. And I am not a frau.

Who cares? She peaked in the late 1990s.

^Aren't you supposed to sign those comments, "The 'Who Cares' Troll" Because ya are, Blanche, ya ARE.

While she is a huge egomaniac who pushed so many psuedoscientists and snake oil grifters and has a cult of Boomer housewives who worship her feet. O comes across as someone who genuinely believes her own persona as this savior to mankind. Given her rough past, it's clear she needs to be this savior to feel valued. Narcissistic personality disorder often comes from abuse and neglect as well as poverty and marginalization. If you grow up feeling you don't matter, you develop an inflated sense of self importance and a strong desire for constant validation. Many of the greatest activists and politicians who did good were narcissistic people. So it's not entirely malicious. Oprah is extremely problematic and enabled a lot of shady shit. But I don't get an evil or cynical vibe from her like Trump, Dr Oz, Goop or others with cults.

But why does o not do stairs nor walk?

Because she is a goddess, waiting for the oiled young man to carry her in her litter. That's they was a Goddess travels, silly you.do.

Im with r101, can we find someone else to discuss? Oprah is almost 70 years old, and mostly retired. At this point even if she was a lesbian it would serve her no purpose to come out.

^Hi GAYle!

Like John Travolta and Tom Cruise, she'll likely die in the closet.

@r100, "Ridiculous. It is a common urban myth. And I am not a frau. "

Then stop acting like one

From r95...

"FWIW, nearly 20 years ago I had an acquaintance who worked out at the same fitness club as Stedman (sorry, can't recall the name). He and Graham had similar workout hours and said the few times Latinas worked out there, Graham would try to pick them up. "

R103- She has FRAUS who worship her.

R103 I agree, Oprah is a cult. If she ran for President, every other middle-aged white woman would swiftly vote for her thus giving her the win.

How many ordinary gay people come out? There is a cost to coming out. Social rank is much lower if you are gay. People think of u as lower.

Just like she had Travolta on her show to crow about his love story with Kelly (RIP) Preston

Do people really need to know if this national treasure dives for muff or munches carpet or goes bobbing for clam?

A lot of hot air being blown around on this thread- not much else.

[quote]I don't know if she continued on in a relationship with the second sister also named Patricia.....I suspect that fizzled out but who knows.

This reminds me...I don't know how on earth I came across it, but I saw a show where Oprah made a surprise visit to her newfound sister Pat's house for her (Pat's) birthday. Oprah just showed up and they were both so happy to meet each other. Anyway, the only reason I remember this is because at Pat's birthday party Oprah made a speech before they cut the cake and began by saying (in all seriousness), "Pat entered earth space fifty years ago today..." Oprah's sister wasn't born, she entered earth space. I got a kick out of that, even though Oprah thought she was being deep. New Age lingo amuses me.

Because she's a straight old lady. Next question.

I think the best take on this was given to me by a dear friend. He said, My sexuality is about 15-20% of my personality. I'm John, I'm a man, I'm American, I'm a native New Yorker, I'm Jewish, I'm of Eastern European ancestors, I'm a Doctor, I'm a Plastic surgeon, I'm a Democrat, I'm an animal lover, I live & practice medicine in NYC, I have a horse farm in Upstate New York, I'm a great partner in a long term relationship, I'm an opera lover, I'm a great friend, I'm a kind & generous person. Oh yes, I am gay.

Maybe its the same for Oprah

Cause really who wants to be Daffyd.

Oprah is the best gaslighter in the business. The "mhmm"'s are priceless.

Have you seen her size? She's probably afraid she'd never be able to get back inside.

R119 that's the Southern Baptist church upbringing right there. She's just missing the big fancy hat and hand fan.

Remember when Oprah cried during an interview when asked about Gayle?

Oprah cries when you mention fried chicken and biscuits. She has orgasms at KFC 😛

[quote] People think of u as lower.

Well, some of us do spend a lot of time on our knees.

MYOB

🤔 Don't you already have enough to worry about?

Is Conan the last straight talk show host? The latest crop seem to be closeted gay.

There are always a number of people who say “this woman/man is asexual because they don’t give off any sexual vibes.” When I see that, I immediately think closeted and trying to hide it. Everyone says that about people like Jessica Chastain, who has an obvious beard (check out those awkward wedding photos)!

Yes, there are a few rare asexuals out there, but most of the time whe people assume that about celebrities, they’re just hiding their sexuality.

And no, being molested or assaulted 1. Doesn’t make you a lesbian (I can’t believe someone said that in this thread), and 2. doesn’t mean you’re automatically going to shun sex.

R127 I don't see her as neither asexual or gay, just a straight old lady that's not very sexual. Plus, why do you think that Jessica Chastain is gay? That's news to me. Just because of her wedding photos?

I believe her if she says she's not a lesbian. But her relationship with Stedman might not be "authentic" (to use an Oprah word). Here's a recent article where she talks about staying isolated while living through the pandemic, and she doesn't even mention him, the man she supposedly lives with:

[quote]I’ve been so careful with myself that my own friends make fun of me. I didn’t leave home for 322 days — literally did not leave the house. So it has not been for me personally a heavy burden to bear.

[quote]It was only the latter part of 2021 that it started to wear on me like, “OK, had enough of this.”

[quote]What has surprised me the most is how well I was able to adjust to the isolation and not being around other people. I remember one point [Gayle King] said, “Don’t you just miss being around other people?” I go, “Eh, not really.” And I think it’s because every day, I was in an audience of 350 people twice a day, so I’ve had shaking hands and autographs and selfies, and lots of attention, and exposure to being around a lot of people. I was able to be with myself in a way that I haven’t been able to for years, because usually, even if I take time off for myself, I’m thinking about what is the next thing to come. Overall, I was able to adjust because I have the ability [and] really strong sense of being in this present moment and living this moment without having to worry about the next.

John Tesh is a big-dicked Aryan sex machine.

Of course Oprah was obsessed.

Tesh is a big Aryan nerd machine who makes elevator music for the masses.

Why is lady Gaga or madonna afraid to come out? Dolly parton?

R132 Dolly Parton and Madonna aren’t big ole 300 lb dykes. Lady Gaga is questionable.

Because Gail knows shit. A bunch of shit.

r134, it's G-A-Y-L-E, bitch! Don't let me have to tell you again.

Now lady Gaga, madonna and Dolly parton are gay too?

R136 duh

John Tesh's cock is so big, and his ejaculations are so forceful, when he cums, he lets out a primal scream and slaps his partner hard in the face.

Even lesbian Oprah was in awe and wanted more..

This is such a stupid topic, probably created by a white person. Oprah is the most famous black person of all time. You don't understand the level of alienated she would get from the black community if she came out. They are the most homophobic ethnicity on earth.

Because she isn’t afraid because she isn’t gay- troll.

I don't think there is anything more irritating than people making assumptions about your sexual orientation based upon [insert whatever inane bullshit attribute they believe defines a person's sexual orientation here]. Whether it's gay, bi or straight, honestly, who the cares? I'll never understand the human fascination with what is, by all accounts, the private sex lives of others.

I cannot stand Big-O. She's vile in so many ways. But gay? No, I'd bet money she's not in a lez relationship with Big-G. Those two are just very close, as in something akin to sister twins.

^ That is EXACTLY right, R142. It's just a coincidence that neither has been in a relationship with a man since the 1990s.

Oprah wishes Kevin Costner had a crush on her like he had on Whitney.

I heard that oprah revealed in that apple+ series on mental health that she has never sought professional help for her mental health. She just goes to Gayle with EVERYTHING. given how life endangering Oprah's weight has been at times and the fact that she would obviously benefit from professional counselling in that area at least, as well as all the traumas she claims to have suffered, this seems gravely stupid. It also elevates Gayle. But if you were Gayle, knowing everything, would you find Oprah attractive? She sounds like a burden who pays well but won't do what is needed to sort herself out. Plenty of successful people need therapy and possibly meds. That Oprah is a preacher but hasn't explored this astounds me. I'm not a fan so i wouldn't know, but does her weight still go up and down all the time? Maybe she has huge trust issues and Gayle has to be the one who deals with everything emotional.

Successful women are by definition lesbians because straight women are too soft to compete at anything.

R146 So all the successful women are gay? Does the same applies for gay men? Are they too soft to compete at anything?

R147 gay men are overrepresented in positions of power. Edgar hoover was not anomaly. The rolling stones were all gay.

Many of you are overthinking this. Why believe that everyone must have a sexual relationship to be happy or whole? Very famous people often have trust issues when it comes to friendships. Oprah and Gayle are life-long, tight friends that trust each other with their deepest thoughts, issues, and secrets. I have a friend like that. It's someone I've known for most of my life and knew me when. I'd bet the bank O & G are not in a sexual relationship. I am in a relationship AND I have this additional relationship that is NOT sexual, but extremely close. As close or closer than the sexual relationship. It IS possible.

She substitutes food for sex.

Agree, r150.

What's steadman's backstory? Any dirt?

Back in 2018, Oprah gave a speech at the Golden Globes, floating the idea that she might run for President.

There's a reason she never did. Or reasons...

R93, quite interesting that that video has been up for NINE years, and Perry hasn't gotten it pulled (pardon the pun)?

Never had to live in the closet, so not sure what the experience is like. I hear about the experiences of others & feel such compassion for the pain they have had to endure. I'm quite low key & just do me. Obviously friends, family know & accept me, always have. I'm blest. Had big accepting family so didn't get bullied. Lucky, count my blessings in this regard. It helped me be who I am today.

All that being said, I can't imagine coming from a group that is highly negative about gay people. So, I don't judge. I feel bad for her & Perry if they have to cope with this.

My parents and older brother attempted to beat and shame the gay out of me when they could. Didn’t work. But the black American culture is based in fear mongering religion and hyper masculinity. Combine all of that stuff with good old American homophobia, you’re lucky to come out alive.

Black cultural rejection of homosex is what killed Whitney.

[quote]But the black American culture is based in fear mongering religion and hyper masculinity.

Which came from slavery. So...it's all still White people's fault. Christianity was, quite literally, beat into us.

Before that, we were worshiping water spirits (see Igbo people).

Well, r157 I am atheist, so I am free from the shackles of Eurocentric Christianity.

Because OP, she looks dreadful in flannel.

Oprah enjoys the cock.

R158 and I’m sure If your ancestors had stayed in Africa, they would now be having lots of fun with an even more insane version of Christianity, or even better, with Islam.

If abolition is abolished, what exactly is Oprah's job as a slave? The pendulum seems to finally swinging back to a saner world.

Internalized homophobia and selfishness

R7, incest in families is typically denied. Then those family members claim other things are false as well to cement the lie. And families of self-made people can be particularly odious. I don't agree with some of her beliefs but I don't think she is phony. BTW, she's not perfect, she has flaws, but she's not phony.

OPRAH & GAYLE ANNOUNCE JUNE WEDDING IN MONTECITO! STEADMAN TO ACT AS MAID OF HONOR.

Stedman allegedly has incest in his family. Cousins married cousins and such. A couple of them are a bit strange looking.