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Those of you that were in high school in the mid to late 90s, remember the Sarah McLachlan/Paula Cole/Shawn Colvin craze?

There was a brief period of time when these three were super popular, and there was a certain type of teen that were into these three. They thought they were so much deeper than all the other kids.

by Anonymousreply 118November 26, 2022 8:02 AM

Yes, and Alanis all the time too

by Anonymousreply 1April 8, 2022 3:25 AM

I never appreciated Sarah McLachlan at the time, but I listen to her music now and she was SO good.

by Anonymousreply 2April 8, 2022 3:29 AM

I guess they were the anti Britney/Christina/Jessica Simp/Mandy Moore

Also Jewel was really popular and I never got into her.

by Anonymousreply 3April 8, 2022 3:31 AM

Joan Osborne "what if God was one of us..." got played a lot too.

by Anonymousreply 4April 8, 2022 3:32 AM

I heard that poor Sarah McLachlan is working as a landscaper in Portland.

by Anonymousreply 5April 8, 2022 3:40 AM

Sarah's doing all right, R5. She sold the rights to "Arms of an Angel" to ASPCA and is rolling in dough.

by Anonymousreply 6April 8, 2022 3:42 AM

Remember South Park? “I’m Sarah McLachlan. I was famous for two months.”

by Anonymousreply 7April 8, 2022 3:44 AM

[quote]They thought they were so much deeper than all the other kids.

Definitely. I understood where Sarah's place was in all of that. She was a bit like Lana Del Rey in that era. Simple lyrics backed by a symphony that made it sound much deeper than it was.

Paula Cole was the horse girl favorite.

Shawn Colvin got all the girls that wanted to move to NYC like Felicity and practice their "art."

[quote]Yes, and Alanis all the time too

I wouldn't put Alanis with them (not that you were). Yeah, she had music out at the time but her lyrics were much more relevant to all teens back then. She had no problem being angry and her lyrics were deep without insisting upon themselves. "One Hand in my Pocket" was such a mood back then.

by Anonymousreply 8April 8, 2022 3:46 AM

graduated '82

by Anonymousreply 9April 8, 2022 3:46 AM

Oh Yeah. All the "Lilith Fair" Dykes were huge for a short period. Add Indigo Girls, Ani DiFranco & PJ Harvey to the list.

Paula Cole is probably the one I personally enjoyed the most. I think she would have had more success in toda musical climate.

And damn Sarah McLachlan for her part in those rupulsive, unwatchable ASPCA commercials!

by Anonymousreply 10April 8, 2022 3:46 AM

Here's the Arms of an Angel commercial. Still gets to me.

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by Anonymousreply 11April 8, 2022 3:50 AM

I remember one time in the 90s a local radio DJ referred to Paula Cole as “Paula ‘I need a shave‘ Cole.”

by Anonymousreply 12April 8, 2022 3:51 AM

I was never really clear on why Paula Cole was so pissed off. Apparently, the man she was fucking didn't like doing the dishes, and she wanted to do the dirty, smelly, shitty work of being a cow-hand. Why not negotiate a healthier division of labor? It's easy, happens all the time.

by Anonymousreply 13April 8, 2022 3:54 AM

And to be clear, I liked all three of them. I just hated the attitude that their fans had.

by Anonymousreply 14April 8, 2022 3:54 AM

WHET Billie Myers? She had a song called Kiss the Rain and she was trying to cash in on the Lilith Fair type singer craze.

by Anonymousreply 15April 8, 2022 3:59 AM

That was her only song.

by Anonymousreply 16April 8, 2022 4:00 AM

Natalie Merchant

by Anonymousreply 17April 8, 2022 4:03 AM

[quote]I was never really clear on why Paula Cole was so pissed off.

She was upset because she married him and was happy to be his wife and do all the housework but then she got bored because the romance was gone. He just went to bars while she stayed home and took care of the kids. I guess it spoke to bored housewives.

But ole' girl lucked out with that, "I Don't Want to Wait" track after it became the theme song for Dawson's Creek for 128 episodes.

I'm upset Meredith "I'm a Bitch" Brooks hasn't been mentioned yet.

by Anonymousreply 18April 8, 2022 4:05 AM

[quote] I'm upset Meredith "I'm a Bitch" Brooks hasn't been mentioned yet.

She's a....bitch and a huge Republican.

by Anonymousreply 19April 8, 2022 4:42 AM

I remember that period.

I would prefer to forget about it.

by Anonymousreply 20April 8, 2022 5:39 AM

Paula's second album was crap

by Anonymousreply 21April 8, 2022 5:51 AM

WEHT Dido? I vividly remember hearing Thank You the morning after I lost my virginity, & wanted to play it for my deflowerer.

by Anonymousreply 22April 8, 2022 6:45 AM

I hated Meredith Brooks and that stupid song. She looked 45 years old trying to be 20. I always thought she was a poser.

by Anonymousreply 23April 8, 2022 6:55 AM

In the mid-90s, the cool girls in high school (the smokers at the back of the bus) rocked the riot grrrl and kinderwhore look. Think cutsey with Magic Marker scrawled slogans on their arms or legs. They were more into Courtney Love.

by Anonymousreply 24April 8, 2022 7:10 AM

Paula is pissed because she is wearing her new dress tonight but he don't, but he don't even notice her.

by Anonymousreply 25April 8, 2022 7:12 AM

I preferred Lil Kim’s very relatable lyrics to young girls.

“I used to be scared of the dick. Now I throw lips to that shit. Handle it like a real bitch.”

by Anonymousreply 26April 8, 2022 7:20 AM

All the shit they played in the montage at the end of Ally McBeal in other words..

by Anonymousreply 27April 8, 2022 7:22 AM

During the period, I loved Brandy and Monica’s The Boy Is Mine

by Anonymousreply 28April 8, 2022 7:25 AM

What the fuck kind of song is Sunny Came Home.

by Anonymousreply 29April 8, 2022 7:26 AM

Yes r26!

"I don't want dick tonight, eat my pussy right."

by Anonymousreply 30April 8, 2022 7:35 AM

Alanis Morissette singing about being sexually groomed by an older man she slept with from 14-19 ... but putting it to a pop beat.

Was scary and brilliant.

I didn't even know what the song was about until I was an adult and actually licensed to the lyrics.

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by Anonymousreply 31April 8, 2022 12:57 PM

R23 Meredith Brooks was already around 40 when that song came out. She has previously been in a band with one of the former Go-Go’s in the late 80s that failed to take off. They had one minor hit that was covered by Belinda Carlisle a few years later.

by Anonymousreply 32April 8, 2022 4:47 PM

R29 Shawn Colvin had been around long before that song came out, and yet somehow that’s the only song of hers anyone has ever heard.

by Anonymousreply 33April 8, 2022 4:49 PM

[quote]I guess they were the anti Britney/Christina/Jessica Simp/Mandy Moore

The Lilith Fair chicks were all before Britney and the other sluts came on the scene. Britney killed them and ruined music.

by Anonymousreply 34April 8, 2022 4:53 PM

R13, that reminds me of all these songwriters who talk about how they 'wish [they were] a bird', how they're "like a bird", how they're "more than a bird".

Bitch you wouldn't last ten goddamned seconds as a bird! You have no fucking idea!

by Anonymousreply 35April 8, 2022 4:59 PM

Nelly Furtado is too fat to fly like a bird.

by Anonymousreply 36April 8, 2022 5:06 PM

The one that always got me was that song that went "I'm more than a bird, I'm more than a plane [blah blah blah]. It's not easy to beee meeeeeee."

The nerve.

by Anonymousreply 37April 8, 2022 5:14 PM

I went to Lilith Fair and saw Alanis perform at it, I think that was 1997? I love all of the music in this thread, still do. My first boyfriend played Sarah McLachlan's album Fumbling Toward Ecstasy on his CD player the first night I stayed at his house, I'll never forget! That album remains interesting now and is better than the soppy lite-FM stuff she started putting out later like that ASPCA song she's now become synonymous with. Listening to FTE makes me feel like a heartbroken teenager all over again though because that boyfriend broke up with me six months later and I listened to that album into the ground.

by Anonymousreply 38April 8, 2022 5:23 PM

Natalie Merchant was great, too. She was huge for awhile then kind of disappeared.

by Anonymousreply 39April 8, 2022 5:28 PM

Miss Bernhard hath spoken.

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by Anonymousreply 40April 8, 2022 5:35 PM

Nobody in 2022 knows who Sandra Bernhard is.

by Anonymousreply 41April 8, 2022 5:36 PM

[quote][R23] Meredith Brooks was already around 40 when that song came out. She has previously been in a band with one of the former Go-Go’s in the late 80s that failed to take off. They had one minor hit that was covered by Belinda Carlisle a few years later.

Charlotte "Junkie" Caffey's band was called The Graces and their single was Lay Down Your Arms. It's much more anthemic than Belinda's version. The other one in the group is Gia Cambiotti. They followed the Bangles templated and each had songs with the lead vocals. Meredith and Gia didn't write any of the songs.

When I hear Lilith Fair I think of Kathy Bates in Six Feet Under where she played Bettina, Patricia Clarkson's nurse. At one point she declares "We don't want any of that Lillith Fair crap" at an event with the Fishers.

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by Anonymousreply 42April 8, 2022 5:49 PM

[quote]But ole' girl lucked out with that, "I Don't Want to Wait" track after it became the theme song for Dawson's Creek for 128 episodes.

When the DVDs came out, they hadn't the budget for the song (so stupid that they didn't get the later rights as part of the TV show lincense) so the song was missing. It wasn't Dawson's Creek without it.

by Anonymousreply 43April 8, 2022 5:49 PM

Dawson's Creek DVD had this theme song:

Not remotely the same but captured the same era and sound.

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by Anonymousreply 44April 8, 2022 5:53 PM

[QUOTE] there was a certain type of teen that were into these three.

Yes. They're called lesbians.

by Anonymousreply 45April 8, 2022 6:17 PM

I read that originally the theme song for Dawson’s Creek was supposed to be Alanis’ “Hand in my Pocket”. But that song had been out for a couple years at that point, so the producers went with Paula Cole’s newer “I Don’t Want to Wait”.

by Anonymousreply 46April 8, 2022 6:26 PM

R38- did you see my parents there? They left me w my Aunt to see that crap. BUT...my Aunt treated me like the King I was for three days.

by Anonymousreply 47April 8, 2022 6:29 PM

Shirley Manson from Garbage was the most memorable of that whole slew of post-grunge, Lilith Fair crowd. Pre-global fame Sarah McLachlan was far more interesting than the smoothed out, ready for VH1 version that blew up with "Surfacing". I will say this though: "Silence" is a monster of a club banger.

by Anonymousreply 48April 8, 2022 6:43 PM

R48 I still break out the Tiesto mix of Silence a few times a year. Absolutely euphoric. I remember hearing it at Twilo on that Phazon sound system and losing my mind.

There were some great remixes of Sarah tracks back in the day, the Rabbit In The Moon of Possession being one of my faves.

I’m also partial to this track by Manufacture with her on vocals.

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by Anonymousreply 49April 8, 2022 8:31 PM

OP, I don't really recall these artists (minus Alanis) being too popular with teens in my area -- or at least people didn't cop to being huge fans. They were considered more Adult Contemporary/VH1.

But their music was everywhere.

by Anonymousreply 50April 8, 2022 8:34 PM

R15 she had a couple of club hits but I don’t recall any other mainstream hits after Kiss The Rain.

I went to Lilith two years and she was at one. She climbed up the scaffolding supporting the stage and I remember being so nervous about her possibly falling that I can’t even remember what she sounded like while singing.

by Anonymousreply 51April 8, 2022 8:41 PM

I loved the video for Paula Cole's I Don't Want To Wait, where she's this immortal woman who lives her life throughout history.

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by Anonymousreply 52April 8, 2022 8:44 PM

R22 she has been releasing music the last few years under the name R Plus with her brother Rollo.

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by Anonymousreply 53April 8, 2022 8:45 PM

Some other adjacent artists: PJ Harvey Bjork Ani DiFranco Poe Tori Amos Fiona Apple

by Anonymousreply 54April 8, 2022 9:02 PM

Music for co-eds to lez out to.

by Anonymousreply 55April 9, 2022 12:58 AM

[quote]Shawn Colvin had been around long before that song came out, and yet somehow that’s the only song of hers anyone has ever heard.

Shawn Colvin's song, "Nothin' on Me" was the theme song for the second season of Suddenly Susan.

And that + the other song are the only songs of hers I can remember.

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by Anonymousreply 56April 9, 2022 1:25 PM

I don’t know that these artists were that popular with high school and teenage crowds around that time. They definitely had a large following among college-aged people during Lilith Fair.

by Anonymousreply 57April 9, 2022 1:28 PM

[quote] Those of you [bold]W H O[/bold] were in high school

by Anonymousreply 58April 9, 2022 1:29 PM

Here's Paula Cole in 2005 with Chris Botti. 'My One and Only Love'

Gorgeous.

Quite a change, but then, we all got older.

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by Anonymousreply 59April 9, 2022 1:35 PM

Jewel was a favorite. She had some good songs. Then she tried to go pop/dance, which backfired and ended her mainstream career. I remember her performing with Beyonce at some VH1 concert, and she lwas so out of her element.

Either she's wealthy or she married money, because last I checked, she hangs out in Hollywood with a group that includes Carole Bayer Sager and Roma Downey.

by Anonymousreply 60April 9, 2022 6:07 PM

I thought Jewel’s mother stole all her money?

by Anonymousreply 61April 9, 2022 6:09 PM

I always thought Paula Cole was singing "Ottawa, wait."

Then I saw some live footage of her on YouTube - woman can sing.

by Anonymousreply 62April 9, 2022 6:18 PM

Natalie Imbruglia and The Corrs were also on a lot of these lineups.

Jewel won the Masked Singer last year and seems to be having a small resurgence (I think people are singing 'Hands' or something on Tik Tok).

Does Norah Jones count? Or is she too jazzy. I remember that album was just in everyone's house somehow, the way the Alanis and Dido one were at the time. Especially with women of this sort of demographic.

Lilith Fair inspired Erykah Badu, Queen Latifah, Kelis, and Jill Scott to do a black version of it (I think it was called Sugar Water Festival or something) and frankly it was a much better gig.

by Anonymousreply 63April 9, 2022 6:52 PM

Jewel, Alanis, Tori and Sarah M were the CDs in heaviest rotation in my emotionally volatile teenage sister’s stereo back in the latter half of the 90s. She’d play these albums at full volume so as to hear music while showering and while blowdrying her hair before school in the morning.

by Anonymousreply 64April 9, 2022 8:37 PM

All that baby dykes in college were into this music.

My only contribution was penning What If Bob Were One of Us about a boss I had that was a real ahole .

by Anonymousreply 65April 9, 2022 8:46 PM

What about Loreena McKennitt? She catered to the Himalayan crystal, tarot card-reading, henna tattooed lez.

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by Anonymousreply 66April 9, 2022 9:39 PM

What about me, bitches?

by Anonymousreply 67April 9, 2022 10:09 PM

[quote] Those of you that were

Oh DEAR

by Anonymousreply 68April 9, 2022 10:13 PM

Shawn Colvin's album "A Few Small Repairs" is still one of my favorites; I think I remembering hearing how she was an alcoholic & wrote the songs after a period of trying to get sober & put her life together again, which I can believe because there's such a tinge of sadness, anger & regret to all those songs. After she got sober, she married some guy & I guess a happy life doesn't make for good music or art.

Roseanne Cash wasn't exactly part of this group, but her music is/was in the same vein as these other artists. Her album "The List" is very good.

by Anonymousreply 69April 9, 2022 10:33 PM

R66 I loved that song!

by Anonymousreply 70April 9, 2022 10:34 PM

All great artists, I wouldn't include Morissette in this grouping.

by Anonymousreply 71April 9, 2022 10:36 PM

Side note: Loreena McKennitt put out a Christmas album with some classic English/Irish songs (alas, no "Baby It's Cold Outside." It's kind of a nice alternative to more modern, but way overplayed Christmas music.

by Anonymousreply 72April 9, 2022 10:37 PM

[quote]After she got sober, she married some guy & I guess a happy life doesn't make for good music or art.

All these chick’s careers fizzled out as soon as they got into stable relationships and had kids. They definitely can’t write the good songs anymore once they have a happy, settled life.

by Anonymousreply 73April 10, 2022 1:23 AM

I agree, r69 - that entire album is one of my favorites. I follow her on Facebook and she tours, but I haven't really liked anything else she has done.

You guys always give Sheryl Crow so much shit on here, but she had two fantastic albums (Globe Sessions and her self titled album), and a few good ones. She's been far more consistent than anybody else mentioned here

by Anonymousreply 74April 11, 2022 12:58 PM

The Globe Session is a very good album, supposedly made after her breakup with notorious creep & racist, Eric Clapton. Talk about an angry & sad album!

by Anonymousreply 75April 11, 2022 1:11 PM

Speaking of Sheryl Crow, Strong Enough holds up well all these years later.

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by Anonymousreply 76April 12, 2022 11:53 AM

Ooh you get me ready in your 56 Chevy,

Why don't we go sit down in the shade?

Take shelter on my front porch;

The dandy lion sun scorchin’,

Like a glass of cold lemonade?

by Anonymousreply 77April 16, 2022 8:05 AM

Sophie B. Hawkins, Lisa Loeb, Mazzy Star, No Doubt, Hole, Liz Phair, Fiona Apple and Garbage.

by Anonymousreply 78April 16, 2022 8:54 AM

Typical sound from that era. Not a huge hit but I blasted it in my dorm for months.

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by Anonymousreply 79April 16, 2022 9:29 AM

Alana Myles started it in 1990.

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by Anonymousreply 80April 16, 2022 9:35 AM

Human by The Pretenders evokes quintessential 90s feelings for me. I'm thinking of myself and friends in a Central Perk-like joint in New York

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by Anonymousreply 81April 16, 2022 9:43 AM

Britney sings Paula Cole Feelin Love at 1:00

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by Anonymousreply 82April 16, 2022 9:59 AM

That Britney vid was from a 2002 documentary. She danced to it more recently though.

by Anonymousreply 83April 16, 2022 10:03 AM

Here is a video of Britney dancing to it.

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by Anonymousreply 84April 17, 2022 12:27 AM

[quote] Loreena McKennitt put out an album with some classic English/Irish songs

FTFY

by Anonymousreply 85May 1, 2022 7:10 PM

Women got radio airplay in the '90s.

Stop the presses!

by Anonymousreply 86May 1, 2022 7:20 PM

R76 'Hundreds Of Tears' from the early 90s (found on the POINT BREAK soundtrack) is a stunning track by Sheryl, and so underrated.

It has this moody, icy, unsettling and desolate quality than few songs of this genre did. Almost like the perfect mid-point between the anthemic and spacious drama of 80s power ballads and more stripped-back and intimate confessional 90s Lilith songs. There's no other pop song I can think of like it.

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by Anonymousreply 87May 1, 2022 7:50 PM

I was in middle school at the time and it was awful. But not as awful as Britney Spears and the teen pop craze.

by Anonymousreply 88May 1, 2022 7:55 PM

[quote] WEHT Dido?

Whenever I read her name, I automatically say "dildo" instead.

by Anonymousreply 89May 1, 2022 7:57 PM

It's genuinely depressing that poor R22 popped his cherry to Dido.

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by Anonymousreply 90May 1, 2022 8:00 PM

R37 that was from "Superman (It's Not Easy)" by Five for Fighting, a male singer. It received a lot of airplay after 9/11, particularly for this verse:

♪ It may sound absurd, but don't be naive

Even heroes have the right to bleed

I may be disturbed, but won't you concede

Even heroes have the right to dream?

And it's not easy to be me ♫

by Anonymousreply 91May 1, 2022 8:33 PM

Sarah McLachlan's 'Angel" also was played a lot on the radio post-9/11, but I don't understand why. Isn't the song about contemplating suicide?

by Anonymousreply 92May 1, 2022 8:34 PM

Here’s a 90’s flashback.

Liz Phair & Lisa Loeb cover Verve’s Bittersweet Symphony.

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by Anonymousreply 93May 11, 2022 11:09 PM

Thanks autocorrect. Sympathy ^

by Anonymousreply 94May 11, 2022 11:10 PM

Not one of Sarah's heavier songs but one of her best. She was more than that "Angel" song.

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by Anonymousreply 95May 11, 2022 11:13 PM

Paula Cole was a horrible "singer". Puke. I went on a date with this guy who was listening to her and I was like she fucking sucks. He goes this date is over. I laughed. And left.

by Anonymousreply 96May 11, 2022 11:15 PM

It grossed me out that Paula Cole didn't shave her arm pits. 🤢 It's very noticeable in the "I Don't Wanna Wait" music video. 🤮

by Anonymousreply 97May 11, 2022 11:20 PM

Also, I remember taking great offense when in an interview she stated that her most embarrassing moment was having to sing "I Enjoy Being a Girl" for a school recital, because it's a nauseating anti-feminist song, yadda yadda yadda. As a gayling, I loved recreating Nancy Kwan's interpretation in my room in front of my mirror. 😂

by Anonymousreply 98May 11, 2022 11:24 PM

R93/R94 nah you had it right the first time pal. It's mistitled on the video. And it's three separate words, if anyone wondered. 'Bitter Sweet Symphony'.

As you fookin' were.

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by Anonymousreply 99May 11, 2022 11:27 PM

My friend and I changed “Where Have All the Cowboys Gone?” to “Where Have All the Razors Gone?”

Also, remember Tracy Chapman had her comeback around that time with “Give Me One Reason”. I also think Lauryn Hill hit the Lilith Fair circuit after she went solo.

by Anonymousreply 100May 11, 2022 11:27 PM

If you ever wanna make someone kill themselves or stab their ears to make it stop, play them this shit-tastic song.

by Anonymousreply 101May 11, 2022 11:32 PM

Fuck! here it is

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by Anonymousreply 102May 11, 2022 11:33 PM

Also Jewel and Meredith Brooks. The late 90's was very female oriented. Remember the Lilith fair? Is that still a thing?

by Anonymousreply 103May 11, 2022 11:37 PM

Not all of them were horrible like Paula Cole. I liked closet carpet muncher Sarah McLachlan. Has she ever come out yet? She married a beard for awhile there in the 90s.

by Anonymousreply 104May 11, 2022 11:41 PM

R104 what makes you think she's Lebanese?

by Anonymousreply 105May 11, 2022 11:51 PM

Ha R99, fucked that one up.

-r 94

by Anonymousreply 106May 12, 2022 12:01 AM

It was weird to see Shawn Colvin turn up in Tremé because her sound is more pop than the other music on that show. Especially as she interacted with Steve Earle and the violinist.

by Anonymousreply 107May 12, 2022 12:05 AM

Building A Mystery is a fantastic song

by Anonymousreply 108May 12, 2022 12:28 AM

At my high school, the Shawn Colin/Sarah Mclachlan girls were the virginal Christian types who were slightly judgmental. Virtually all of them grew up to be very liberal and not at all religious.

by Anonymousreply 109May 12, 2022 12:56 AM

R105 Har har. Ya Golden Girls watching fucking geezer. You old turds find that stupid humor hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 110May 12, 2022 1:33 AM

Shaw Colvin seemed more easy listening/adult contemporary to me.

by Anonymousreply 111November 1, 2022 3:43 AM

Shawn Colvin’s “Steady On” album is amazing, and it’s how I first came to know of her. The title track is far superior to “Sunny Came Home.”

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by Anonymousreply 112November 20, 2022 6:16 AM

“Dead of The Night” from that album is amazing.

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by Anonymousreply 113November 20, 2022 6:18 AM

I preferred Meredith Brooks’s second single over “Bitch.” The video had sexy Billy Wirth as the male lead.

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by Anonymousreply 114November 20, 2022 6:21 AM

Meredith Brooks’ Twitter feed was insane. She was always 2 degrees short of going full Breitbart.

by Anonymousreply 115November 20, 2022 8:26 AM

Ok bitches, I have to admit something. I was a big fan of these artists (Jewel, Paula Cole, Sarah M etc) bc they were heavily featured on Dawson's Creek and Buffy every week.

by Anonymousreply 116November 20, 2022 11:47 AM

What an era for music!

I hated Shawn Colvin though. I heard Sonny Came Home and wondered how the hell that made the Billboard charts.

I had a soft spot for many female fronted bands, not just the folksy ones (like Hole, Veruca Salt, and secretly No Doubt).

I didn’t discover Tori Amos until the 2000s, other than liking a few songs. Later I appreciated more of her music catalogue from the 90s..

by Anonymousreply 117November 26, 2022 7:23 AM

Poor forgotten, underrated Heather Nova...I liked her better than any of these other bitches.

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by Anonymousreply 118November 26, 2022 8:02 AM
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