No Pain Meds for You!

The streets

Thats what is has come down to, and i agree the STREETS ! Pathetic f ing goverment.

Slam a shot of whiskey

You just have to insist on them and keep insisting. They don’t hand them out anymore.

What is this, Eastern Europe or something?

Did you miss the opiate crisis? Physicians were way too lax about handing out opiates like candy and it got so many people addicted.

I have some opiates for a rainy day. If my friend the anesthesiologist says it’s ok, I might take them. But they’re really old.

Be careful buying from the street. A large amount of oxycodones and various other ‘scripts’ are actually fentanyl or a potent opioid.

If your pills are old they may have lost their efficacy. I had some left over from hernia surgery and when it started acting up again about three years later, took them and they didn't do much of anything.

You'll need to contact your doctor or the surgeon and say the pain is too much and you need something stronger.

The opioid crisis was 2000s. The crisis now - and for the past 5 years - has been fentanyl. And it’s worse than the OxyContin issue.

The crisis now is the elimination of any sympathy or concern for legitimate post-operative or nerve pain - and the effective outlawing of a legal drug. The cruelty and absurdity of the “just take a Tylenol” mantra of every doctor in 2022 needs to be a higher priority. What will it take for America to awaken to the agonizing, constant pain - especially of the elderly and chronic pain victims? Let doctors do their job - prescribing opioids in a safe and responsible way for the 95% of patients who took them and never abused them.

Same thing happened to me around 8 years ago, OP.

I’ve never been into pain meds and they actually have upset my stomach quite a bit, the times I’ve had to take them, however, I had dental surgery in this one instance, and genuinely needed them.

The pain was radiating through my jaw, my cheek, even my temple. It was BAD.

The dentist finally prescribed me 3 Vicodin, which helped with the pain tremendously, but made me wanna puke, so there you have it.

Hope you feel better soon, OP. I’m glad they caught it before it got too serious.

Also, I wear sunscreen on my earlobes, because you never know…

OP is just jonesing for some hillbilly heroin.

I say suck it up! Did Lincoln ask for girly gas when they blow'd his head off?

I don’t have Lincoln’s fortitude.

R12= Matt Gaetz

A friend of mine had a prolapse of the bladder, IIRC, and was given oxycodone and didn't like it, asked for dilaudid, and I was surprised she got it.

I've been on extended release opiates for a degenerative condition and the last med I was taking was discontinued in manufacturing because not enough people are getting opiates for the 'better, safer' meds. (In all honesty extended release makes the most sense bc they don't get you high and if you tamper with them they're rendered inactive by design.)

Too many Dr's choose to "not believe in opiates " in favor of neurontin/gabapentin, steroids and NSAIDS (was actually on all at one pt, neurontin for seizures but did nothing but fog my head) and the result was premature kidney damage.

But, you didn't exactly have terribly invasive surgery and you can try CBD as it's an anti-inflammatory that's not harmful to organ function.

The FDA has actually started trying to get more Dr's to prescribe but the war on opiates didn't factor in the collateral damage to patients who have no other options.

^ getting the newer safer ER meds prescribed, ie. not enough money being made to keep manufacturing.

The word "prolapse" just makes me shudder. Put it on the list, along with "moist" and "pergola."

R15, I hope you get some relief and improve.

What happened to your kidneys sucks. I’m so sorry.

A lot of older people are disabled with pain. It is cruel to treat patients like that. I have such bad back problems, I am thinking death would be much better. I can't have any quality of life. I wish they would let us commit suicide if we can't stop the pain. I hate this country.

THEY DO SELL RAT POISON AND LOOK UP JAPANESE CAR SUICIDE.

R17 I'd like to suggest an addition to your list: Catheter...she was screwed bc there were multiple surgeries. R18 I'm not in terrible shape all things considered. Thank you though for the words, and it's funny because in order to get to extended release meds, a small amount of damage HAD to happen to make a medical case for the medication. It's beyond fucked. But I also use non drug therapies (have mentioned in several threads about neurofeedback, and I got REALLY into yoga, which as a science has helped in SO many ways but, it takes a lot of effort to get to the non drug therapies (uncovered by insurance and not inexpensive either) and Dr's really don't seem to understand that, nor do most care.

Absolutely do NOT buy anything on the streets, unless you want to risk accidental overdose. There are non-opioid pain medications that could be prescribed if that is the concern. If all else fails, Rx-based Motrin comes in 800mg strength - OTC Motrin is usually 200mg. Do the math here - maybe that will offer some relief.

I get ya op. I broke my wrist in three places last year and was in awful pain for about 5 days which caused my blood pressure to skyrocket. Everyone from the Urgentcare doc to the 1st Ortho I went to said the same thing...take Tylenol. I also hate the attitude you get when you do ask for something stronger. The Ortho treated me like a drug seeker even though they had electronic access to all my drug history going back a few years which clearly shows that I'm not a drug abuser.

R15 your friend was fortunate. My mother had surgery for pelvic floor prolapses about a month ago and was in the hospital for two days. The first night, I told the nurse that my mother was in pain and he came back with two Tylenol. I was absolutely incredulous. I voiced my concern, as did my mom, but the nurse said, "Let's just try this and see." Two hours later my mother's pain had increased so I went back to the nurses' station. I told the nurse what was going on and his reply was, "I'm sorry sir but this is all the doctor has ordered." Then he said, " I think she needs to give the medication more time to work." I was pleasant for all of about thirty seconds before I let him have it. An hour later he came back with Tramadol which took the edge off her pain but didn't alleviate it. When her surgeon made his rounds the following morning my mom and I both told him she needed better pain control. Now, aside from this, we both really liked the guy. He's known to be the best in the area, but he just wouldn't budge. I finally said, "That's fine; just discontinue any further pain medication and I'll have a relative write her a prescription." My uncle who's an internist wrote her a prescription for ten Lortab, out of which she took eight, and that was that.

I hope I never need them, as my few experiences were awful as they made me nauseous as fuck and believe me, you don’t want to be puking with broken ribs. Dr switched me to something that worked better than Tylenol and little nausea but a dozen of them were like 200 dollars and my insurance didn’t pay for that drug.

Okay—So I have some generic Percocet dispensed in 2017 and some generic Vicodin dispensed in 2015. From what I’ve read, they are likely to be still somewhat potent if not close to full potency.

Since they both contain acetaminophen, I’ll wait until my next Tylenol dose, then take a Perc.

I would certainly think both those meds would be fine, OP.

I hope you get some relief.

My sister had an emergency c-section last year and her doctor sent her home with five oxycodone. Despite the tremendous pain she was in. That was it. She's not a drug seeker/user, but the medical staff treated her like an addict. In the end, she had to double ibuprofen for pain relief. It's unfortunate what the opiate epidemic has created. Like the above poster says, whatever you do don't buy street drugs. Much if it is cut with fentanyl.

Tylenol is for shit if you’re in real pain. It’s fine for a little headache or fever reduction but that’s about it. I’m

People are overdosing left and right from just one pill laced with fentanyl. Please do not buy anything from the street or accept anything from anyone that is not prescribed to you by a physician.

I know pain sucks, but dying is worse if the pain is temporary and eventually subsides.

R15/R16, lots of love to you. Hugs 🤗

More to the DL point, how hairy is your chest? Will you be growing hair in your earlobe?

The Tylenol has helped. I suppose I might say it “took the edge off” the pain. Maybe that should be enough.

Perhaps we’ve been mislead to expect to have no pain, but that’s what I’m hoping for.

Blame the suburban druggies who developed a problem and then ran crying hysterically to the ever indulgent media ( who don't give a rat's ass about the truly vulnerable and suffering). Cue the wall to wall hysterical news coverage about how Something Must Be Done. Fuck the elderly, the disabled and the sick. Kayden and Kellie decided to become tweakers now everyone must pay.

I too broke my wrist last month, the ER doc told me to take Tylenol. A few hours later a different doctor called me at home to follow up on something and he was kind enough to give me 4 whole painkillers.

The doctor went for a hairless patch of skin, R31.

But you remind me of the first day of Contracts: Hawkins v. McGee

R24 Like I'd said, she had 4 surgeries total, one including an implanted biofeedback device, but because the two reconstructive surgeries required anesthesia they were REALLY invasive and she only asked for the meds for the last two surgeries. You really almost have to prove to your dr that you're willing to live with pain if you have a shot at getting those meds. Also fun fact, patients are dying again for mixing gabapentin (50 yrs of unregulated status) with opiates and OD'ing and dying because Narcan only works on narcotics so clearly the problem doesn't begin and end with opiates.

R30, thank you.

Docs here seem ok with prescribing painkillers. When I went to the ER for pain, they immediately offered morphine (I was writhing), which I initially refused because I hate the constipation that opiods cause. But several minutes later I was like "OK YES PLEASE". Turned out to be kidney stones. They sent me home with a prescription for more which I only used a few of.

This is one of those things where I hear two drastically different kinds of stories. 1. Cancer patient with a lung removed can’t get anything stronger than Tylenol. 2. Patient is offered OxyContin for root canal.

What the hell?

There have been some studies that show Tylenol plus Advil can be as effective as opiates. I would certainly try going that route first.

They should go back to at least giving people Codine3 or Vicoden. I used to get that sometimes for different things. It was always limited use. If you have high blood pressure, your blood pressure goes way up with bad pain. I had a patient (nurse) who had a heart attack because she was in so much pain and they would not give her anything. It is sick and cruel.

[quote]There have been some studies that show Tylenol plus Advil can be as effective as opiates.

Didn't work for me when I broke my wrist. There's also studies that say ibuprofen is bad for broken limbs.

I was told not to take ibuprofen.

Me too, r42. But I did it anyway because Tylenol had the same effect as an M&M.

I sympathize, OP, but we did have a thread like this not too long ago. I’ve had some problems getting pain meds for chronic back pain but I’m not going to tell the whole story again. Docs were threatened with losing their licenses a few years ago because of an over reaction to the “Opiate epidemic” and became very reluctant to prescribe too many narcotics. There are new guidelines now, but it takes a while for prescribing patterns to change.

My anesthesiologist friend says storing and using old pills is not “good stewardship” of opiates. To which I say I never promised to be a good steward.

^ correction. He said it is “not wise.” Good stewardship is promoting wise use of opiates.

Whatever.

Old pills are usually fine as long as they are kept dry, and ideally, not exposed to much light. The worst that will happen is that they lose some strength, but it’s usually not noticeable.

I suppose he says it’s unwise because they could fall into the wrong hands.

like your junkie hands, r48?

If I were a junkie, would I have old pills lying around?

and there you go.

They handed out opioids by the fist fulls way before the opioid epidemic. If you’re in pain, you’re not getting addicted. It was not Vicodin that hooked people. It was Oxy. Doc were prescribing it in huge amounts. My dentist once gave me 16 Vicodin for a deep teeth cleaning in 2003 when I was 18. I got 50 the same year for wisdom teeth removal. I was on Vicodin for 5 years after a wreck and before/after surgery. Never got addicted.

They are being RIDICULOUS with pain meds now. It is insanity.

I had 2 teeth pulled recently, and was told to take Advil and Tylenol, until I called my dentist screaming in pain. There were giant fucking holes in my jaw, these were back molars. Finally, he gave me 4 Tylenol with Codeine, which barely helped, but was better than nothing. Next time I go to Canada, I am buying as much as I can legally bring back.

I don't understand why for profit health care doesn't let us have all the pills we want.

[quote] and there you go.

Huh?

It's the opioid crisis. About 12 yrs ago my mom had a total knee replacement & was on Percocet for 3+ months.

She just had the other knee done & was given a prescription good for about 2 weeks. She had to beg to get another week added on.

Mama has some left over Darvon for muscle spasms she had in the 1960s. After my dental exam and teeth cleaning I always ask for some Demerol to take the edge off. My dentist obliges.

I don't usually judge addicts but I have developed a bit of a prejudice towards opiate addicts. The two I knew ( casually not a close friendship) were appalling and hateful right wing assholes. This was long before they ever got hooked. It was hard to feel compassion for them knowing how judgemental and contemptuous they would have been towards others experiencing addictions. Yeah, I know anecdote is not data but still.

I fell and had a concussion and a compression fracture in my back (T-3) in late November. I was given 2 Tylenol in the ER. Luckily, I had gone to Mexico in early November and bought 2 bottles (100 pills total) of Tramadol for when I need it (degenerative bone disease.) I still have 90 pills left. I’m holding onto these for dear life.

I was able to get Oxycotin if I wanted it $500 for 5 pills, but I wasn’t interested. The pharmacy was legit and very nice.

30ish years ago when I was first going to the doctors on my own as an adult (I was pregnant) I made the terrible mistake in being honest on my medical form. They asked a million questions and everything was 'do you have a family history of blah blah'. Because I was 18 they also asked for the names of my parents (I don't know if that's a real thing or was just for me)

I answered all the questions as honestly as I could and explained to them that I didn't have a full history of my father's side because I had only met him a few years prior but I knew he was a heroin addict (one of the questions was you or family have a history of drugs).

Well, that flagged my medical records forever. That may be an exaggeration but I have been to the emergency room and doctors where anyone else would have been prescribed painkillers and never once has anyone prescribed them for me. I made the mistake one time of asking in the ER about pain medication (not opoids, just pain medication) for the migraine I was in for and the nurse literally snorted and said something about my father.

Meanwhile, every junkie I know can get a prescription. A few times I have had to get painkillers from friends (codeine cough medicine for whooping cough etc, a pill for throwing my back out) and now of course I am terrified of even that because while I assume no one I know is getting stuff off the street, I can't chance it obviously.

I better hope that I never get anything long term painful or I'm fucked.

I’ve already said if I need surgery for something I will not get it if I don’t have adequate pain meds for after.

and i bet you'll give them a "look" as you say it, r61.

[quote]The crisis now is the elimination of any sympathy or concern for legitimate post-operative or nerve pain - and the effective outlawing of a legal drug. The cruelty and absurdity of the “just take a Tylenol” mantra of every doctor in 2022 needs to be a higher priority.

It's NUTS! Last year, my brother had an outbreak of Shingles (first time) and was in excruciating pain. The NSAIDs & prednisone prescribed by his doctor provided no relief. He couldn't sleep, couldn't eat, couldn't concentrate on work (even reading emails on his laptop), etc. He was in agony. And this is a guy who NEVER complains about pain.

I asked if he could get the doctor to prescribe a painkiller. He had tried, but the doctor flat-out refused -- even though he has NO history of abusing painkillers (or other substances) and was practically begging. He just wanted to be able to sleep at night! Doctor: "Sorry, you'll just have to cope with it."

Well, FUCK THAT! And that asshole! I was not going to allow my brother to suffer. Like R7, I had a little stash of painkillers left over from various procedures/surgeries. I'd been prescribed Hydrocodone (16 ct. ) about a year earlier, following oral surgery. I'd only taken a few of them. I put the rest in a padded envelope (no bottle) and went straight to the post office.

They definitely helped! Didn't kill the pain entirely, but he was finally able to get some fucking sleep.

R62 Oh well if I die, I die. I’m not suffering.

I asked for one painkiller a few months ago in order to sleep because I was in agony from a kidney infection. The doctor wouldn’t give me even that one. They can look at your records and see that’s you’re not a drug seeker, so I don’t get what their problem is. They seem like they’re using the opioid epidemic to be mean and sadistic.

OMG ear hole?? Did they cut off your ear? Are they gong to grow a new one on your arm? I met a woman who had to have an ear grown on her arm.

They didn’t cut it off. The just took a big scoop out of it. Like with a melon-baller.

Maybe I’ll just stick to weed. It seems to work.

[quote]They didn’t cut it off. The just took a big scoop out of it. Like with a melon-baller.

Oh thank God. Well, at least you can still wear sunglasses.