Dharma & Greg

Psycho & Pathological

R1 LOL who is who?

I DETEST Jenna Elfman. I don’t believe I was able to sit thru an entire episode.

I rewatched it on Hulu during the early pandemic days, and the first several seasons still held up and were very enjoyable. Season 4, when they started to inject the drama and the potential infidelity plot, is when it started to go off the rails, and the fifth season was pretty tired. It was clearly time for the show to end. It was nice that they were able to give it a satisfying finale (that still would have allowed the show to continue if it hadn't been canceled).

I hate that Chuck Lorre brought the characters (or at least the actors) into Two and a Half Men just to shit on them, but at least that's easily ignored.

But yes, Sullivan really made that show, with Elfman close behind. (Haven't liked Elfman in anything else though.)

Susan Sullivan was so hilarious on that show. Kitty Montgomery was both a snob and a priss, yet Sullivan made her so incredibly lovable.

The Dharma character was the epitome of Manic Pixie Dream Girl. I'm glad she's dead.

r5, agreed. Kitty would be unbearable in real life, but they allowed her a lot of nuance.

I loved this one where Greg tells her off for trying to rope him into mother-son activities so she takes up with a gay guy played by Scott Thompson who seems to worship her...only to have him end up doing a drag show mocking her.

How she says Edward is ingrained in my mind.

And Mitchell Ryan is a very underrated actor. He was always the villain- Dark Shadows, High Plains, Drifter, Magnum Force, Midway, Lethal Weapon, Hot Shots! Part Deux, Speechless, Judge Dredd, and Liar Liar. Really sad he died this month.

I forgot about this show lol. A lot of late 90s and early 2000s shows like Dharma and Greg, Becker, Spin City, Two Guys and a Girl, Yes, Dear, According to Jim and Veronica's Closet are all but forgotten.

Other nearly forgotten 2000s shows: 8 Simple Rules, Hope and Faith, Reba, What I Like About You, everything else on The WB and UPN.

Never was a fan.

Thomas Gibson was cute. Beautiful cheekbones.

He delivered Dee Dee's twins, Anna and Edgar.

It's a real testament to Susan Sullivan's talent that she has so far been the only actress who plays one of the manipulative cold bitches in Chuck Lorre's sitcoms and make her lovable. Neither Holland Taylor nor Christine Baranski were ever able to make you care about their similar characters in Lorre's shows; and yet after her initial episodes playing the role as Lorre had written her, Sullivan made Kitty the funniest and most engaging character on the show. I would watch it just for her.

Dharma and Greg annoyed me. I loved both sets of parents, though. The actor who played Greg's father died this week.

Mitchell Ryan was a hot daddy for the majority of his career.

I thought it was really funny Jenna Elfman and Thomas Gibson reprised their roles in a very sour way on two and a Hlaf Men. Although they did not use the characters' names on the episode of TBBT, the story made it very clear what everyone long suspected: once the enormous sexual attraction had finally settled, Greg would have become very tired of Dharma and would be looking for a way out of the marriage.

[quote]Mitchell Ryan is a very underrated actor. He was always the villain- Dark Shadows, High Plains, Drifter, Magnum Force, Midway, Lethal Weapon, Hot Shots! Part Deux, Speechless, Judge Dredd, and Liar Liar.

Don't forget Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers. Producer's cut is where it's at, yo.

As for Dharma and Greg, I remember it as an above-average sitcom, but I don't think I'd be able to watch it now. Jenna looked at Kirstie Alley's reputation as the most unhinged of all hardcore Hollywood Scientologists and said, "Hold my beer."

Jenna fizzled because she always plays a variation of herself.

Wait-- there were sitcoms on in the 90s that weren't Friends, Seinfeld, Mad About You, Roseanne and Home Improvement?

Mind blown!!!!

I remember watching this show while waiting for something better to come on. We didn't have cable. I remember Dharma was really "wacky" in that fake TV way and Greg didn't have a personality. TV seems to have gotten a lot better in the past 20 years

Susan Sullivan and Mitchell Ryan could have had their own show.

Fun article about how the show incorporated San Francisco into the plot and characters. It is very San Francisco

I vaguely remember watching this show as a kid. Dharma and Greg reminded me of my parents.

It was sort of the beginning of the Chuck Lorre sitcom factory.

It’s not Dharma and Greg’s San Francisco anymore is it?

I wanted that era of Thomas Gibson inside me quite deeply.

But apparently he's a punchy rageaholic and not fun to work with. How Criminal Minds functioned for even one episode (let alone a few seasons) with both Gibson and Mandy Patinkin in the cast is beyond me.

R27 I didn't think Gibson was a difficult actor

r23 Great read, thanks for that! I don't even care that it was published a decade ago, it's as relevant as ever. But did I hit a paywall, it just ends abruptly at memory problems?

It was a charming show, but even as a kid, I could easily clock that it wasn't as funny as some other sitcoms at the time. Sad to think Dharma would probably be into QAnon these days, with Greg performatively disagreeing with her, but secretly hoping for another – this time successful – insurrection. Such simpler times.

r27 Same. What I wouldn't give for a spin on that puppy back in his prime. He made my gayling body feel so good... [italic]down there.[/italic]

Isn't Jenna a Clam?

R28 He had a rep that grew more negative over the years.....he was ultimately fired from Criminal Minds

Hard core R30.

Dharma means well, but sometimes she has crazy ideas.

R29 The article discusses how Dharma and Greg is a very San Francisco-based show, the way Seinfeld is very New York, whereas most shows the location could be anywhere because:

The differences in parenting. On one hand you have Dharma's parents (Rachins/Kennedy), off the grid hippies who are ultra-liberal and anti-government. On the other you have the opera and gala loving old money of Greg's parents (Ryan/Sullivan).

Kitty's lines are the only ones I can remember after all these years:

When Kitty had to work at the thrift store for community service: Woman donating a sweater (after it was rejected by Kitty): "But it's a donation!" Kitty: "And this is a charity shop, not the city dump."

At the community garden (Dharma's parents have one plot, Kitty has another) Dharma's mother (when she sees Kitty's gardeners spraying pesticide): "But we have ladybugs!" Kitty: "Well, if there's enough left, we'll get to those."

Jenna was poised for a real career but chose to be a lunatic cultist instead.

It was Susan Sullivan's best work.

Her role in CASTLE was similar but she was too infrequently in the spotlight.

R37 What about Falcon Crest?

She was sort of a simp on FC, in my opinion. She was OK but her best work is a slightly bitchy/edgy role.

Mitchell Ryan has died.

He died two years ago when this thread was originally posted, R40.

I believe, at least here in DL, this show should be referred as “Dharma and that idiot Pruneslinger”