BREAKING: Taylor Hawkins is DEAD to me

Found in a hotel room.

Soo young.

Oh no. I love this band. Dave must be devastated. Another band mate dying on him

Damn. Now that I'm firmly in my 40s, shit like this bothers me. I'm a minor Foo fan (huge Nirvana fan). This sucks.

Also, a hotel room in Colombia? Hmmm. I wonder what might have killed him.

Dead in Bogota.

Hope he scored some hot, huge Colombian cock.

[quote] Found in a hotel room.

I hope he wasn't with anyone from Erie.

Moral of the story:

Don't be in a band with Dave Grohl.

He had started looking like a blond Dave Grohl. Wonder if they were 'sharing DNA'?

R7 in with the priorities.

[quote]He had started looking like a blond Dave Grohl. Wonder if they were 'sharing DNA'?

You think jizz suddenly makes you look like the person you're fucking?

He just turned 50 less than a month ago.

Was he gay?

Tremendous talent and a big heart... what a shame... I feel awful.

20 years ago he overdosed on heroin and was in a coma.

He definitely had a junkie look to him, but seemed like a likable guy. Really too bad. Great drummer.

Colombian coke? Sad

How did he die at such a young age? Was it natural causes?

They all just stared in that comedy horror movie where each band mate was murdered, this is too eerie! He was on Colbert a few weeks back & seemed fine.

[quote] He was on Colbert a few weeks back & seemed fine.

He sent his love.

Fentanyl

What happened?

Taylor!

Oh no!

[quote] What happened?

He died.

It's so crazy how a person is alive one moment and dead the next.

No! I loved his version of Andy Gibb's Shadow Dancing. Always thought it strange you never hear the biggest song of 1978 on oldies station. It was the best of their Gibb covers. Also enjoyed his Sister Christian.

If there’s a rock & roll heaven, well you know they’ve got a hell of a band,

RIP Taylor.

Sooooo sad! RIP

Is it too late to airlift him to another country to recuperate?

Way back before the Foo Fighters.

Imagine dying in Bogata.

This is heartbreaking, honestly. I enjoy the Foo FIghters.

I almost died in Antigua, Guatemala. And let me tell you, I was DETERMINED not to die there.

Poor Taylor.

Oh, shit, I didn't see this one coming.

Condolences to his family, May He Rest in Peace.

I hope Candace Bure doesn’t jump in and foul the memories

Oh Foo-ey. This is sad news!

He was America’s Father

I liked the guy for being willing to get punched in the face on SNL.

R.I.P., Taylor.

He was such a good drummer. I am so shocked. Way too young. I always thought he was good looking. Seemed nice. This sucks.

[quote] RIP Taylor.

R40 Is that supposed to be funny?

Assault isn't funny.

Has Alanis commented?

Hope for Taylor Swift & painless

I hate the FF's but adored his personality and talent. Very sad.

I hope they can get afford Saget’s coroner

[quote] I hate the FF's

but love the WWs.

[quote]Was he gay?

Yes. He was an openly gay man, survived by his wife and three children.

Good teeth!

He's with Neil now.

[quote] Good teeth!

The better for identifying a body.

Wake up world! Dave Grohl is a serial killer.

Suicide?

Is this another Bob Saget esque death?

R43 fuck off twat.

Now the Gen Xers are starting to go.

You're next, millennials.

Sad to hear this. FF seems like a band that generally gets along pretty well. I like Dave Grohl, he seems like a nice guy, in spite of being an extremely wealthy and successful rock star.

Enough people thought so, according to all the likes it has. Just because you can't tell fantasy from reality (it's a fucking skit, numbnuts) doesn't mean the rest of us are equally impaired.

^ for R43

You know, he was kind of hot.

[quote] Found in a hotel room.

Hotel rooms kill again. They must be stopped!

Is Taylor Hawkins in that unfunny skit video at R40?

Gentle reminder that hotel rooms are far more likely to be killed than to kill. #CheckInNotOut

I would’ve ate his ass.

Aww....Ringo....

[quote] I would’ve ate his ass.

But he still wouldn't have lived forever.

Taylor is now Living His Truth.

Terribly sad

[quote]Is Taylor Hawkins in that unfunny skit video at [R40]?

Yes, that's why I said so in the original post.

Can I have his teeth?

Nice teeth and hair but I can't find a really flattering picture of him.

It IS kind of common to die in a hotel room. Suicides do it to spare the family the grisly discovery and I guess drug and alcohol abuse spike when one is away from their family.

[quote] Assault isn't funny.

Oh, for fuck's sake: lighten up, Francis.

You're not on reddit trying to impress the other SJWs.

Did someone assault him in the hotel room?

Dave Grohl & Taylor Hawkins inducting Rush into the Rock Hall of Fame.

I don't think he killed himself.

My guesses would be OD based on past addiction history and a prior OD putting him in a coma for 2 weeks, next would be heart attack brought on by prior drug use. Sad. I don't think he killed himself, I think it was accidental.

Oh shit. That's sad. He was a great drummer.

Acshidental.

Is he dead to me as well?

This should've been a "bearking" news thread.

If I was in a hotel room in Colombia it would definitely be cocaine to kill me

I always thought he was kind of attractive and my eye was drawn to him in their videos but that changed when I sat near him at LAX about 15 years ago. He was sitting on the floor against a wall with a woman and they were both eating McDonalds and when the flight boarded, they just left the trash all over the floor. He was always just a pig to me after that.

[quote] they were both eating McDonalds and when the flight boarded, they just left the trash all over the floor.

That alone made him deserving of an early death.

[quote] they just left the trash all over the floor.

Rich trashy people need servants to clean up after their bad behaviour.

Drugs, drugs, drugs. I met the band backstage in high school, and all the guys were awesome. Taylor was nowhere to be found…not too long after he’s doing a stint in rehab.

In school, in a physiology class, I remember learning that drug users systems reach of physiological stasis, a steady state with the amount of drugs they’re taking and their vitals (heart beat, blood pressure) compensate and acclimatize. But when they leave the place where they usually do drugs, that stasis is gone and they’re prone to bigger changes in their vitals. So they’re using the same amount of drugs, but because they’re in a hotel room, their hearts and other vitals don’t compensate and they end up ODing on what’s normally their regular dose. And that’s why rockstars always OD on the road in hotels.

i immediately think,covid. But there's no mention of a cause.

Brian Jonestown massacre

Interesting R88 I have never heard that before.

Fuck off R40, that shit isn't funny. Especially with the shit that's happening in NYC. Fuck Andy Samberg and SNL, too.

Long addiction history. Don't do drugs, kids. Especially if you're 50. His middle-aged ticker just couldn't take it.

You fuck off R43, I'm not R43, but he's right.

Yep R60, he was. A lot of people think shit like that is funny. It fucking isnt. Yes bitches, I'm triggered.

Damn. I loved this guy. A great drummer and a cutie with a great sense of humor. Horrible news. RIP.

FENTANYL.

Did he have the same condition as Tony Robbins and the celebrity makeup guy?

R43 Funny? Yeah. Go back to watching "I love Lucy" reruns

The Andy Samberg video isn’t funny on a literal level, but on a “I can’t believe how stupid this is” level it’s pretty funny. Or maybe I’m just really tired.

I laughed, R100.

But I have a secret 13 year old straight loser sense of humor that laughs at stupid thing like that skit.

Oh no! He was my favorite Foo. Cute and funny and talented. I’ve had a crush on him for years. Dammit.

Are they dropping out of Lollapalooza Brazil?

On a related note, is Dave Grohl a known booze bag? He’s looking very bloated and dissipated these days.

An acknowledged drug user and rock drummer died on tour in Columbia? Must be the Covid vaccine!

Faster Courtney Pussycat! Thrill! Kill!

R105, I'm already seeing assumptions on Twitter that he died from the covid vac.

Fentanyl. Too many deaths because of it. I see it every FN day.

Booze and pills and powders and here’s another goodbye to another good friend

It's not just now, r57, GenX rockers have been dying for years. There's hardly anyone left.

[quote]He's with Neil now.

I'm dead?

Doesn't he smoke as well?

I think it a mixture of pills and booze. Accidental. Like Anna Nicole Smith etc

He was in Colombia, he called complaining of chest pains. it was coke. Thread closed

Rock star found dead in hotel room? I’m sure it wasn’t drug-related.

R107 get used to it.

Did anyone else first think 🤔 it was the kid from Hanson? But I don’t think they actually play music 🎶

When a seemingly healthy man dies at age 50, there is a chance that it was drugs.

Place that man's body in a hotel room, the probability that it was drugs increases.

Place that hotel room in Bogita, Colombia, I'd say there's now a 76% chance it was drugs, namely cocaine.

Add to that mix the man is a rock star, and you're at 95% likely it was cocaine.

Finally, the fact that he struggled with addiction issues makes at very very close to 100% chance he died of a heart attack doing coke.

Under other circumstances, I would agree that cocaine laced fentanyl would be the culprit. But, coke is so cheap and plentiful in Bogita, that seems unlikely.

I had a couple of friends who vacationed there. They said cocaine there is like pot in Amsterdam. It doesn't get talked about too much in America due to the social stigma still attached to coke. I had to specifically ask my friends about it, they didn't offer up the information.

R43 Why don't you pull that stick out of your ass and live a little.

Jessica Fletcher at r117

Awww. My Fraulein soft/radio-rock loving sister will be heartbroken to learn of this.

More of a hardcore/pysch/alt fan myself so from a music perspective it’s whatever, but he seemed a capable drummer and a nice dude so it’s a sad loss all the same😔🕯

Foos on Top Chef.

Taylor sings at Kennedy Center Honors.

He had a great smile...very sad.

This one is shocking. RIP..

Guessing there will be a tribute concert thrown together in short order. All the mid-period MTV Rocks! & Kerrang! bands in attendance I’m sure.

He was hot as fuckin shit yo.

Wow, bummer! He and Dave were best friends; he was funny and went nuts on the drums. Poor Dave and Pat.

are they gonna do an autopsy ?

No joke, he had great dental work- perfect veneers.

This guy was loved by all, and that alone is a huge legacy.

He had charisma in spades.

Courtney should seize the moment to get Grohl back for ‘Best Of You’. He really did her dirty with that song, and made millions out of the deal besides.

Is fentanyl a problem in Colombia?

He was the only good part of that horrible Alanis documentary on HBO recently. RIP.

Que r130?

Letterman's favorite band. They cancelled a tour in South America to do this appearance on Dave's show after he came back from heart surgery.

police said it may be drug related.

From what I read on the internet...Local reports said hotel staff called the emergency services after Hawkins suffered chest pains but he was already dead by the time medical responders arrived. Foo Fighters had been scheduled to play at a concert in the Colombian capital.

I'd hate to hear that it was drug related, as he supposedly kicked that habit. Maybe his heart was damaged from years of drug use, and smoking, and his former life-style caught up to him.

He was a good drummer. Too bad the music they made sucked so hard.

Sad, but not surprising. Allegedly, he was a functional addict for many years, similar to Anthony Kiedis.

As soon as I heard, I thought of Jeff Porcaro, legendary drummer whose heart just gave out after years of coke abuse. IIRC, there were drugs in his system, but not a fatal amount. To the ME's credit the autopsy report was released and was quite thorough.

It will be very interesting to see Dave Grohl's reaction in the next few days, and how industry people, esp. session musicans react.

R40 Such an unfunny clip. Who came up with that crap?

It will be along Dey, indeed, for all the bandwagon Susans

Worked with the band in LA. He was a good dude, very down to earth and his family was with him. Wife and Kids were great too. I feel bad for their loss.

Very sad news.

In some photos he's just....so hot. And I say that as someone who is generally not a fan of long hair. And with a very childlike, happy look, which just enhanced the hotness.

And in others he looks almost haunted.

In any case, sad news.

[quote]I would’ve ate his ass.

As you do the orange con man's one, Lá Lindzebelle, we assume you would do his. Now sober up.

Can all you assault is unfunny scolds please go stick your faces into the nearest grease fire please.

Why d'ya have to kill all the good dick, man?

Is r120 using a death announcement to humble brag about his refined and superior taste in music

Here he is again with Alanis, this time on Letterman. Do any of you eldergays remember this?

As an aside, whoa, was she intense or what??

Recently saw him on the Count Me In drumming doc on Netflix. Lovely, talented guy. Those drummers need a lot of endurance and strength. Poor guy.

The photo on JoeMyGod's post.....holy fuck was he beautiful

Awww...."that's the Taylor people care about." Sweet, funny, and self-deprecating.

So sad

Condolences to his band and family.

Looks like the Foo is taking out the fighters.

I'm mortified that it took Hawkins' death for me to learn that FF made a Bee Gees cover album.

Drummers are the best people and seem to be the nicest band members. Ringo, Neil, and Taylor. All great guys and personable.

Yes, R154!! Here's another.

Letterman (or his people) tweets.

This clip has Taylor on vocals.

Dave Grohl is considered one of the best drummers of all time . I guess he wanted the allure of being a front man instead

He seemed like a sweet guy.

I read Wikipedia last night and they had heroin overdose as cause of death. Not sure if true or not obviously.

It’s sad that generation of musicians are going too soon. Just the other day Black Hole Sun came on I thought of Chris Cornell and it transported me back to teen years listening to it. Layne Staley was another favorite when I was growing up and obviously Cobain. Shannon Hoon also died tragically. DJ Am was another one that was gone too soon.

The Dee Gees was the FF side project. You know they were having fun and were at the no fucks to give stage when the decided to become a Bee Gees tribute band.

Dee Gees

Lol, this is awesome.

If it WAS heron, dollars to donuts it was cut with fentanyl. He was clearly an experienced drug user, and was likely careful with amounts. of opiates But with Fent that doesn't matter. There is a very small difference in the amount that gets you high and the amount that kills you.

I'm still thinking it was more likely coke. I think maybe he was used to lower quality road coke. Maybe the shit in Bogota was too pure, and and he over estimated the amount he could take.

I had no clue they did an entire Bee Gees cover album. I think I’ve heard a few songs here and there, but not all of them. The Chili Peppers and Frusciante also cover some Bee Gees, I think How Deep is Your Love is one.

[quote]If it WAS heron

Pecked to death in a Colombia hotel room!

R88 interesting. I thought it might be buying from unknown dealers.

Pretty sure this one will be OD.

I can't imagine they will perform at Lolo tomorrow R103.

^ LolA

Apparently the FF have been trolling the WBC for years, lol.

Here they are Rick-rolling them. I think that's Taylor holding the big sign.

Awesomeness!!!

Dave Must be devastated. They were so close

R139 I think it was the guy who created the Golden Girls or was it Gilmore Girls?

R164, that is exactly what happened to Janis Joplin. She had just begun using again. Her regular and trusted dealer didn't do a chemical test on the batch of heroin he sold her. It turned out to be 50x stronger than the usual mixture. It was responsible for a record number of fatalities that weekend.

Fooey.

.....

R163...Loved the signs saying, "God H8s...God Hates..." held by the xtians. Xtianity is all about hate.

Why couldn't it have been Dave?

I remember seeing Alanis in concert at Tramps in NYC back in 95. Small venue you no matter where you were you had a great view. I noticed Taylor playing drums and thought he was so hot. RIP

.....

sad.

I know someone who was clean for years, even became a drug counselor. He relapsed and OD’d. The body isn’t used to the former amounts they used to use. Same thing happened with Corey Monteith I believe.

Was not looking well earlier this year

How did he die? OD?

Probably, R185. Way too early for a tox screen to be back.

I know someone with a similar story, R183. Coke use earlier in life can really damage the heart, along with smoking, ODs seem more common in 50s with that history. In Columbia hard to imagine it did not involve coke and chest pains are another big clue. Sad. He had a history with heroin and pills too, but in Columbia Oskam's razor suggests coke. Narcan only works re: opiates.

No disrespect but I did not know this guy. I am surprised there are so many Foo Fighters fans at Datalounge.

Definitely not a Foo fan (they're basically the American Nickleback) but I absolutely am a Taylor fan

R187- I could not name a Foo Fighters song if you asked me too.

I only knew this man because of the Alanis documentary (he was the standout of the entire thing!!) Funny, charismatic, and self deprecating. I had no idea that he was her drummer.

I learned I cannot stand Alanis, and I was embarrassed that I liked her 20 years ago after seeing the clips of her live in concert. Oh my god- She was goofy as balls.

This guy was really loved and respected.

to ^^ Oh dear as usual.

I was thinking just last night about how many Gen X rock stars have died young. It's as bad as the baby boomer rockers from the 60s.

Totally agree with R188. He really deserved a better band. YT has some videos of his 70s cover band, Chevy Metal as well.

Stay away from drugs, kids...

[quote] The global music icons and Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductees Foo Fighters were set to be the final day headline act at the Formula 1 Etihad Airways Abu Dhabi Grand Prix.

Ugh.

Is everyone up for auction to the Em!r@tes?

Survived by his mother Sophia Phawkins.

R188 are you fucked in the head? The Foo Fighters are the anything but the American version of Nickelback. Just because you may not enjoy the genre doesn’t make them untalented. They are a terrific band great songwriters and master showman. Their life shows are amazing. So fuck off.

FF were great the first four cds but after that it's been a total bore fest. Same shit over and over and over and over and over.

I wonder if fentanyl will factor in. Even in Columbia, dealers love cutting their stuff with that shit.

Columbia? Was Dylan Geick involved?

He died on a toilet in honor of MAMA!

For those of you who don’t know them, this is one of their more popular songs and personally my favorite song of theirs. Rumored to be about Kurt Cobain, but think Grohl denied that.

R188, totally unfair. I am not a big Foo fan, but comparing any band to Nickelback, who, with Creed, are far and away the worst "major" band of all time - better come with receipts. Meaning, not one good song.

Foo's first album is packed with not just good songs, but great songs. Check out I'll Stick Around if you don't believe me.

It's been hit or miss since then.

The songs are actually quite good, but Dave isn't all that compelling as a frontman. He's totally serviceable. Likable. But not compelling. Hell, from clips of seeing Taylor sing? Dave should have stayed behind the kit and let Taylor lead.

If the The Goo-Goo Dolls and The Foo Fighters toured together what would be the name of the tour?

Dolls, Here's the Goo-Foo Fighters!

Never heard of him.

Also not a big Foo fighters fan but I loved Everlong and Taylor is hilarious in the video. Definitely the highlight. That said I never really found him attractive. He has dwarf features, like a normal sized achondroplasiac.

I'm glad I got to see the Foo Fighters in 2018. Really fun show. I'm sad for Taylor's three kids. They're only 16, 13 and the youngest is eight.

As a musician myself, another musician death hits hard. Good looking, talented man gone too soon. He chose the ‘live fast, die hard’ rock n’ roll lifestyle. Even Brian Wilson wrote something on his page about him. He was obviously well respected in the music industry.

R196 I mean, he's not that far off. Wouldn't say American Nickelback, but pretty close. At least the last two decades. Big arena, Budweiser commercial, predictable butt-rock.

R205 Grohl actually plays the drums on this song (and the whole album).

Wonder if he died alone? You would think that someone with his history might be babysat by some assistant when they were headlining big festivals. Esp if it was him that was recently taken to a hospital in IL.

I thought Taylor Hawkins was that guy that Ketanji Brown Jackson sentenced lightly for child porn.

R88 Interesting, but I’m curious that with rock stars traveling so much, do they have a usual place to do drugs? Seems like hotel rooms would be one of the places they usually take drugs.

I visited Columbia 10 years ago, and the cocaine was amazingly pure. You could even sleep well after taking it. It makes me think that he took something else.

[quote] In school, in a physiology class, I remember learning that drug users systems reach of physiological stasis, a steady state with the amount of drugs they’re taking and their vitals (heart beat, blood pressure) compensate and acclimatize. But when they leave the place where they usually do drugs, that stasis is gone and they’re prone to bigger changes in their vitals. So they’re using the same amount of drugs, but because they’re in a hotel room, their hearts and other vitals don’t compensate and they end up ODing on what’s normally their regular dose. And that’s why rockstars always OD on the road in hotels.

IMO, this doesn't make sense. I can understand altitudes (airplane) affecting how your body processes drugs. But simply being in a hotel room shouldn't affect how much you can handle.

[quote] Doesn't he smoke as well?

Not anymore.

[quote] I visited Columbia 10 years ago,

I assume the school, because the country is spelled Colombia.

[quote] Place that hotel room in Bogita, Colombia,

[quote]But, coke is so cheap and plentiful in Bogita,

JFC.

I thought addicted musicians were typically prescribed opiates to avoid the buying/quality/safety issue and so it could be carried across borders. But, playing festivals on the weekends left a lot of downtime in between for parties or solo use.

He had that very thin, wiry frame that opiate addicts seem to have.

Although a stimulant, cocaine doesn’t seem to keep people thin, interestingly.

No offense but he was ugly. Dave Grohl is ugly and I hate that fucking commercial he’s in where he shouts LASAGNA over and over. I mute it every time.

[quote] Definitely not a Foo fan (they're basically the American Nickleback) but I absolutely am a Taylor fan

Agreed. I didn’t really like Foo Fighters. People who hated, say, The Eagles and Toto, love them which is super funny as FFs sound is just as slick but with poorer musicianship. FFs are more akin to Matchbox 20 than Nirvana, but Dave and Taylor had so much positive energy they made their music seem harder than it is.

[quote] I had no clue they did an entire Bee Gees cover album

Almost, it was 5 BG covers (side A, so to speak) and 5 live versions of songs from their own collection.

It was called Hail Satin. (dad joke groan)

[quote] IMO, this doesn't make sense. I can understand altitudes (airplane) affecting how your body processes drugs. But simply being in a hotel room shouldn't affect how much you can handle

I’m not r88, but for instance the amount of stress someone experiences has a direct on hormones such as cortisol. Cortisol affects glucose levels, blood sugar, tissue repair, metabolism and even your fight-or-flight responses. It makes sense that as being in the road, in a hotel alone/with a hooker as opposed to tucked up in your own bed, would affect your hormonal levels and thus how a drug would react in your blood.

[quote]Although a stimulant, cocaine doesn’t seem to keep people thin, interestingly.

I beg your pardon?

Put a sock in it, tedious fuck r92. The point was that Taylor is in the video, not that anyone is condoning assault or bad comedy.

Back in my day sonny, rock stars died, but only at the Ramada Inn.

what was on his ipod?

Too bad Prince Harry wasn’t there to slap him awake.

Taylor, Taylor, Taylor!

Good grief R219, that’s filmmaker Kevin Smith in that commercial, not Dave Grohl.

The Daily Mail is reporting that he had 10 different types of drug in his body.

Pffft. Amateur.

From what I've read, the hotel called EMS when Taylor reported having chest pains. Now I've never done cocaine or heroin but if you're overdosing on either one of those are you aware enough to call the front desk and say Hey I need help?

Do you think he was only taking one kind of drug? He was probably doing other shit too and the combination wasn't great and his chest starts to hurt, he is wise enough to call for help. but it was already too late. there was vodka in his room too.

I'm glad he got to see Studio 666 come out.. I had a lot of fun with it. It's on VOD now.

This is horrible. Drugs fucking suck.

"White powder 'similar to cocaine', and hallucinogens, were allegedly found in the five-star Casa Medina hotel room of Foo Fighters drummer Taylor Hawkins, who has died aged 50.

Well-known Colombian journalist Luis Carlos Velez, the Bogota-based director of radio station FM, claimed earlier today that a police officer who entered Hawkins' room had told prosecutors he saw a 'cocaine-like' white powder.

Meanwhile, respected Colombian newspaper El Tiempo said a confidential report it had been informed about pointed to hallucinogens - mind-altering drugs that can include LSD - being found inside the hotel room.

Velez added: 'In the room, Colombian authorities found an empty beer can, an opened bottle of vodka, a Coca-Cola bottle and some other articles which are being analysed by authorities."

[quote] I've never done cocaine or heroin but if you're overdosing on either one of those are you aware enough to call the front desk and say Hey I need help?

For cocaine, yes, you can be aware enough to call for help.

Cocaine makes the most sense, considering he was in Colombia. Sounds like he had more than one drug of choice. Doesn't make sense to be in Colombia and not buy cocaine there (if you're a polysubstance abuser).

It's Grohl in the Sirius XM commerical with Kevin Hart, r229.

R236, whats the source for this? First I've seen anything mentioned about what they found in the room.

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Sounds like the John Entwistle death: hookers and blow.

This article says it may have been a heart attack. He was 50, so it's possible.

R242, if it was a heart attack, it was brought on by what I assume is copious amounts of drugs.

Thanks R240. Actually R243, it could have been a small amount, but being in Columbia was likely more pure, thus more potent than what his body was used to taking.

R236 was from The Daily Mail, yes.

I didn't know we could link to it, sorry, see r240.

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Here’s a funny video of Dave Grohl’s coffee addiction:

[quote] One unconfirmed local report said several glasses were found inside the drummer's room, sparking speculation he had been entertaining guests before his death.

[quote] One unconfirmed local report said several glasses were found inside the drummer's room, sparking speculation he had been entertaining guests before his death.

Maybe he had different prescriptions. You know, one for reading, one for driving, one for….oh.

I wonder if the hotel had a contract with EMI or how they were brought in?

Which article states he had 10 different drugs in him? Quick tox screen.

Sad, esp for his young kids.

[quote] but being in Columbia

SMH.

Just heard on NBC Nightly News that per Colombian officials, preliminary tests show that he had 10 substances in his system, including opioids.

Good for you, Winchell!

We hadn’t heard that. 🙄

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Isn't it a bit too quick to know what was in his system?

Or am I wrong about that?

heart attack

I'm sure the two week coma didn't help his over all lifespan. He was looking rough. Like a guy who'd bother you in front of a gas station at 3am. Junkies all start looking the same. See it once and you'll instantly recognize it. Like Down Syndrome.

[quote]"The toxicology test on urine from Taylor Hawkins' body preliminarily found 10 types of substances, including: THC, tricyclic antidepressants, benzodiazepines, and opioids," the Attorney General's Office of Colombia shared Saturday in a statement (translated from Spanish) on its Twitter account.

Gee, if he was having problems, and the band was aware of it, I wonder if they thought about postponing the tour to get him help.

Dave G. is one of the nicest guy in music, super nice to fans and he will sign a million things for you. I have seen pictures online where he signs hundreds of guitar pickguard for resellers.

R147, "he" (R120) is a she.

Sad. He was looking so thin. People will never learn. Maybe this will be a wake up call for Dave. He’s been looking like a bloated mess lately.

His wife has the eyes and lips like those Housewives. Shudder.

Not one of those substances listed in the urinalysis would kill you in combination at medicinal doses. Hell, I have nearly the same list in my system. I going w heart attack. Just wore out.

[quote]"White powder 'similar to cocaine'

Many white powders look "similar to cocaine." Ask any drug dealer.

[quote] Dave Grohl is ugly

More ugly than me.

Another dead rich junkie.

A lot of famous people have died from the combo of opiates and coke. It's very hard on the heart even for much younger people.

It took how long for the toxicology tests from the family who died in the heatwave whilst hiking in CA last year, but we have the results of Taylor's toxicology tests a matter of hours after he snuffs it.

Different countries, R269, different circumstances. Plus, this was a quick urine tox screen, those people died of dehydration.

Imagine being 50 years old, having a wife and kids, and STILL being addicted to drugs? How fucking pathetic. Don’t start a family until you’re ready to grow the fuck up.

He can't help it. it's an addiction. and you cannot force someone to get help if they don't think they have a problem, it won't work.

Actually, R272, some studies indicate compelled treatment has almost the same success rate.

I think he got clean for a while after coming so close to death in London. That might have been when he started a family, don't know. 2 kids are teens, a 3rd is even younger, very sad for them.

A Facebook friend of mine got on my ass about my comment regarding how he died. Covid? OD? She fired back it doesn’t fucking matter. Like it showing disrespect or something. Of course it matters bitch. It matters to his wife and three kids, not to mention his many fans. Not a big FF fan but a relatively young guy dying people will be curious.

This band is finished. Dave writes songs with Taylor. He's gonna be so lost. They are like brothers.

Opiates and benzos combinational long can kill you

Did Dave know his addiction history?

Taylor Hawkins sounds like a name you'd find on a jazz album released by the Japanese.

Taking anti-depressants and opioids is a bad mixture.

These days I'm more surprised if a rock star dies and it's not an OD or health problems related to drug use.

R275 yeah no

or suicide r280

Yes, R277, he was in a coma in London for 2 weeks after ODing in the early years of the band.

Dave created a whole album, writing it and playing almost all the instruments, he will be fine and will continue to work as a musician, with the Foos or otherwise, I am sure of it. They played up the "brothers" thing as part of the brand but Grohl has been a working musician since he toured with Skinny Puppy as a teen.

[quote]Found in a hotel room.

You didn't have to tell us. Hotel rooms are now the go-to spot for sudden deaths whose causes are then not revealed to the public.

Taylor Hawkins wasn't involved with the first two albums, which are their best and most consistent

Benzos and booze can stop your breathing, popular combo with fraus. Quite reckless. But, probably a speedball that killed him. Quite the pre-game for the show that night. Wonder where his "guests" went as he OD'd? Narcan might have helped with part of the OD, surprised no one was assigned to babysit him with it close at hand since he had been relapsing for months, at least and they were contracted for such big shows.

Red Hot Chili Peppers are bad influence.

If I knew and I never met the guy, then I’m sure Dave knew R277.

You can say that again, R287!

I bought tickets to see RHCP this summer, they better not fucking die before the show.

This aged like milk.

R286, if the toxicology tests came back this fast, I'd expect to see something about the identities of the guests. I'm not CIA, but if we don't see info about them, there's something going on behind the scenes.

Another thing, and I'm not LE, but I'm immersed in The Rolling Stones's history, if the touring party can get the fuck out of the country they needed to do it last night. I'm not saying Colombia is a kangaroo court kind of place (living here in The Colonies there are plenty of kangaroos to go around), but if I held an American passport and I heard about Taylor's death my ass would be on an Avianca 777 to LAX faster than you can say ay corumba, or however it's pronounced.

If I was still a guest at Heartbreak Hotel, I'd be waiting for the knock at the door wh. reveals uniforms and badges on the other side. I wonder what if anything the American Embassy is doing about this, as in showing a concern for getting those who clearly have no involvement back home, or offering some kind of assistance.

[quote] Not one of those substances listed in the urinalysis would kill you in combination

Are you serious? You never heard about opiates + benzos being a fatal combo?

He was obviously partying with the guys on the tour, the crew probably. The guys in the crew are usually the guys who score drugs for the band. I once met a guy who worked for bands and he said he used to score and hide drugs for a famous rock star. The mgmt etc would be watching the lead singer like a hawk etc but they could never figure out where he got the drugs from.

He seemed like a nice guy. Very sad.

I was always "meh" about Nirvana and Foo Fighters. But Dave Grohl really IS that good of a guy so always wanted him and his projects to do well - which they obviously have to a huge degree.

omg who the fuck takes 10 drugs? He must have a death wish.

I thought benzodiazepines were opiates?

Probably multiple rx drugs, including an anti-depressant, anti-anxiety, maybe even something like Viagra mixed in there. He was 50, so maybe even acid reflux meds, etc.

Cocaine is probable.

Not hard to add up to 10 drugs, unfortunately.

His bandmates must feel terrible. I pity the Foos.

You think you're the only one suffering?

I pity the Foos as well.

OMG, I heard that he had 10 different drugs in his system.

I know this is slightly off-topic, but does anyone know if the hotel serves a complimentary continental breakfast?

There are fabulous breakfast buffets in Columbia, r302. Eggs, bacon, pancakes, and so many fresh fruit options. Such a shame to die and miss out on the buffet.

Do they count love as a drug?

[quote] He can't help it. it's an addiction.

Yes, society must turn a blind eye while this addict kills himself.

It's a mental illness just this current fad for transvestites.

[quote] But Dave Grohl really IS that good of a guy

Is he man of good character, a careful husband and sensible parent to his children?

Shocked there aren’t the “it was Covid or the Covid shot” trolls on this thread.

Grohl is deaf

I’m sure I just read an article stating his heart was enlarged. As in twice the size 600grams. Twice the size of a typical adult male’s heart.

Likely overdose . Addicts hide their addictions — doesn’t matter if looked good a few days ago

R264, that’s such an incredibly dumb statement. Heroin is an opioid, that alone could kill him. Add is 9 other substances and I would be shocked if he didn’t die.

About 8 drugs found in his body. I guess the big question is how did this cesspool of dope live this long?

R283, I'd forgotten about Skinny Puppy--they were regulars at my local club in the 80s, so I guess I must've seen Dave Grohl.

I was into different music by the time the Foo Fighters came along, but whenever they turned up, Taylor Hawkins stood out. I guess it's the blond hair/boyish look. Not my type, but very charismatic.

So magnetic. He looked like he really enjoyed beating on those drums

Drummers are more muscular than guitarists.

It’s really sad

In London, in 2001, Hawkins was in a coma for 2 weeks. He said he was not a junkie "per se," but he was "partying ... a little to heavy."

Frankly, that sounds kind of dumb.

Very dumb.

[quote]A Facebook friend of mine got on my ass about my comment regarding how he died. Covid? OD? She fired back it doesn’t fucking matter. Like it showing disrespect or something. Of course it matters bitch. It matters to his wife and three kids, not to mention his many fans.

It matters to his wife and kids, r274, not some nosy-ass bitch like you who isn't even a fan.

[quote] It's a mental illness just this current fad for transvestites.

It only took r305 comments! Ding! Ding! Ding!

Is it true that Hilary Swank is going to be playing him in the biopic?

🖕🏽👏🤣

People are saying that we don’t know enough about what actually happened yet .

R219 Dave Grohl is annoying and looks like a bloated, tomato-faced alcoholic these days, but in his youth, he was basically my dream man. I love me a gangly, brown-haired/brown-eyed skater-looking (but not actually a skater) type. He was so cute.

It's tempting to simply shrug it off and mutter "junkie" when someone suffers a drug-induced/related death.. But drug addicts are always, without exception, self-medicating. They are in mental anguish, with unresolved issues and anxiety.

Very sad.

Is Pat Smear a gay?

R326 he's always pinged, but I don't know. He looks flaming here in this picture with Courtney in the '90s. They were apparently friends in the '80s, long before Pat ever knew Dave or Kurt. I believe they are still close.

The article at R242 mentions that his heart was enlarged (as R309 stated). So whatever drugs he was doing in combo with his "shocking" enlarged heart was a lethal combo. Three kids left without their dad due to his selfishness (don't talk to me about how he couldn't help it because he was an addict. Give me a break).

R326 No, he has a wife.

R327 How does that work? Him being close to Courtney and her and Dave hating each other

What is the Rock and Roll hall of fame going to do? Don’t they have him and Dave there every year for some reason.

R319 fuck off. You know nothing.

Their stage manager died in June last year. He was 45. Cause of death undisclosed.

[quote] About 8 drugs found in his body. I guess the big question is how did this cesspool of dope live this long?

Some (or maybe all) of them were likely prescribed to him. You seem nice, btw.

Grohl is looking none too healthy himself of late. He looks puffy and booze-bloated. Worse than Ben Affleck even.

Not begrudging boozy Dave Grohl his years of big success, but I have never understood the massive love garnered by this band. David Letterman usually has better taste. They're Dullsville, plain and simple.

Hearts are so unreliable these days.

What’s scary about heart disease is that most of the time you don’t even know you have a problem.

I don't understand, regarding his heart. It's fucking huge. I mean, that doesn't happen overnight right?

How did he pass his medicals?

He definitely knew he had heart problems. You have to go for medical exams for tours like that, for insurance purposes...

There's something else that is known to give an enlarged heart too, but they won't dare mention that.

Cocaine, in concentrations commonly sold on the street, causes the abnormal buildup of primitive proteins in heart muscle -- a process causing heart enlargement that can ultimately lead to sudden death

What are you insinuating, R341? Do you suspect Taylor died from learning the true meaning of Christmas?

Grohl has huge nostrils👃

The urine test showed 10 substances in his body including heroin+ they also found hallucigenics and a "powder" in his room. Sad.

r333 Hawkins should never have been on tour. I understand he's an adult, but putting him in that situation, then allowing it to go on bugs the fuck out of me. Hawkins was a great drummer, but he was a session/concert player. That's why I posted upthread about being interested in the fallout reaction from musicians in the next few weeks. Most will probably keep their mouths shut since it's a difficult industry these days. Lifers like John Lowery get work by discretion, but it will be interesting if blind items start appearing from industry leaks. Say what you want about RHCP, and you can say a lot (poor Josh), but IIRC they canceled dates in Australia and pulled Kiedis back from the brink when he OD'd there.

Grohl is a notorious anal control freak-he didn't want a bandmate, he wanted a contract player. Fair enough, but you should at least have a contingency plan if he's a functional addict who's rapidly deteriorating. And maybe talk to all the OGs you like to IG starfuck about how to manage an addict bandmate on tour, cause by the sounds of things a lot of unwritten rules were broken. Oh, and take an honest look in the mirror, because you don't look so good yourself these days.

Grohl has a lot of hair and he does look puffy. My friend and I watched 666 a few weeks ago and his eye bags are really something

If the band knew about his relapse, then they should have assigned him a handler, a minder on tour to watch over him.

I wonder if their wives were allowed on tour. They would have been able to watch over them at least. Unless they have substance issues as well.

I’m really surprised about the amount and range of drugs he was doing

He was on antidepressants too, so it sounds like he was self-medicating poor guy

He seems like the type of guy who couldn't be comfortable in his own skin sober, always gotta be on something.

It's a grueling tour too. they are in a different country every other day.

Agreed, R346. The FF have earned millions over the years and didn't need to do another tour right now if one of them was suffering.

Especially if your bandmate has a spouse and minor children, everyone should be thinking of mental and physical health first.

Now, of course, it's too late.

Greedy Grohl

Anybody know if the band is back in the states yet? Or still in Colombia?

Not sure if it's greed but Dave himself has said that he's a person who cannot be idle. he has to be doing something all the time, that's why he wrote his autobio in the pandemic and made the movie.

He likes to tour and play concerts. a lot of them and I think Pat Smear quit the band the first time coz it was just the same 20 songs over and over again. He got sick of it and didn't want to do it any more.

I wonder if his family is having their own doctor do the autopsy as well.

Wait...so let me get this straight......

So, there were 10 drugs found in his system?

Ten, like between nine and eleven?

Are the number the same in Colombia?

Maybe he really wasn't there, but was a projected hologram?

“Colombia’s National State Prosecution Service can confirm the following after the initial autopsy on the body of Taylor Hawkins.

"That in the toxicology test on Taylor Hawkins’ urine ten types of substances were preliminarily found, including marijuana, tricyclic antidepressants, benzodiazepines, and opioids.

"The National Institute of Forensic Medicine is continuing its medical studies to be able to completely clarify the facts that led to Taylor Hawkins death.

"Colombia’s National State Prosecution Service will continue with its investigation and reveal the results obtained as part of this investigation as appropriate."

wow I'm really surprised this is all being revealed in such a speedy manner!

In reading about these Gen X musicians who are dying early (Cornell, Weiland, Bennington, Nowell, Cobain, DJ AM etc... Staley being the exception) they are all from broken homes that seemed to trigger a spiral. Some with sketchy parenting. Weiland and Bennington were also victims of sexual abuse (not family). I’m guessing Taylor fit into one of these categories.

Sort of disappointing to see that Grohl pretty much turned a blind eye to Taylor’s addiction problems.

It sounds like Grohl might be better off as a solo artist who employs session musicians. That way, he can tour whenever he wants and just replace people if they're burning out.

Grohl Has not made any comments he must be completely wrecked

I wonder if any of the band members did drugs with him...

In the documentary Back and Forth, dave told taylor (after his drug OD) that he wasn't gonna be a cop or his dad. but "I don't want you to die, you're like my brother"

How hard is it to hire a babysitter for a bandmate with an addiction problem? Preferably somebody cool and friendly who also knows all about the shit junkies pull and has experience with life-saving measures in the event of an OD.

They’re back in the US R356

Somebody posted somewhere here that multiple glasses were found n the room, meaning he was not partying alone that evening. I would think that the band and crew would be questioned.

However, the fact that HE (reportingly) contacted the hotel staff to get him help for his chest pains makes me wonder. I don't think we're talking a speedball (i.e., Belushi, Farley)

We shall see.

If you had 10 different substances in your system at once, you either intentionally killed yourself or you had been on drugs for so many years that you had to keep adding stuff because you weren’t getting the same high.

R330 I'm not sure—as far as I can tell, the Courtney/Dave feud is more or less over these days though. I remember hearing an interview with Courtney where she said that she met Pat in LA while he was working at Tower Records, and that they both rode the bus together. She is the reason Pat ever ended up playing in Nirvana, and, consequently, the Foo Fighters.

OMG!! I just heard and rushed to DataLounge!

TEN DRUGS!!! 10!!!! ONE-ZERO!!!

I thought we only listened to Speak-n-Spell music, like by Britney Spears, here on The DataLounge

[quote] Not sure if it's greed but Dave himself has said that he's a person who cannot be idle. he has to be doing something all the time, that's why he wrote his autobio in the pandemic and made the movie.

People like that are tiring. What's the sense of money if all you want to do is work?

Krist Novoselic is pretty much unheard from.

I saw Grohl on Hot Ones, where the guest eats hot sauces that get progressively hotter & hotter. Dave made a big deal out of drinking alcohol & getting the host to drink. It wasn't even something Dave was shilling. Maybe he is an alcoholic.

BOOZEBAG!

R363, Taylor grew up in Laguna Beach with both parents, who bought him a drum kit when he was 10. The full Rolling Stone interview just released reveals he dealt with extreme stage fright his whole career. He also says Grohl has it too and drinks to deal with it – so they were probably enabling each other.

Why do celeb tox screens always show tricyclics, the most dangerous kind of antidepressant?

I never realized before the extent good teeth/veneers contribute to the overall appearance of good health. Blonde hair, slight tan, gleaming smile…he did not look like a drug addict to me. Interesting to hear some of you say that you could see the signs.

His skin looks very saggy

He does seem very southern California / surf & beach community.

Without his long, blonde hair, I doubt DLers would think he was hot.

His skin was probably sun-damaged in addition to the drugs.

That RS article above is very telling. He spends the majority of it talking about and praising Dave Grohl. He does not sound happy in that article and only feels grateful for having a job and money.

Sounds like Joe Walsh (Eagles).

I loved his vocals on Shadow Dancing the Andy Gibb song. I thought the Foos had some good songs over the years, but I agree they were not that compelling.

Interviews over the years suggest that Taylor’s mom was a pass-out alcoholic and dad a stony asshole.

Here’s one article

The RS article was kind of sad. He certainly hero worships Grohl but doesn’t have much confidence in his own ability and talent. Performing seems to have made him crazy. I wonder if his drug use ramped up again after the Covid pause? After 28 years of touring, he finally got a break, but then was thrown back into the world of pressure and performance.

Surely he had enough money after all those years to quit touring. He could have offered to stay in FF as a songwriter and studio musician or left the band entirely.

In the RS article, seemed like he was doing better "on pause" than being on tour. He dodged the question of whether he was sober now. He also refers to drinking as just some alcohol (with regard to Dave).

Yes, he did seem to have hero worship over Dave. But at one point, he did challenge Dave and then Dave put him in his place.

He forced himself out on tour so as not to disappoint Dave and then OD'd from the pressure.

Now Dave is REALLY disappointed.

Two things:

1) For most famous artists there comes a point when they're no longer on stage for the money — they're there for the sheer adoration. Talk about a drug.

2) As for assigning TH a babysitter: You really think that diva, they all are, was going to have someone tell him what to do and when to go to bed?

R384, that is kind of a sad article now that he’s gone. It heavily implies that mom had issues, which sadly fits the pattern with these guys. His sister must be devastated.

the whole band used to get drunk before performing gigs, they admitted it in the documentary Back and Forth.

Alcohol and cocaine combo kills anxiety and energizes simultaneously

He’s a grown up and he did what he wanted. At least he died doing what he loved.

I have a crush on Pat, I hope he’s alright. Darby, Kurt and now Taylor.

“ And I just found out from my doctor, got all my blood tests and my heart everything checked and he goes, “dude, you’re in amazing shape. Your heart’s big, because you exercise a lot. It’s like a runner’s heart.” And that’s fine. The only thing is, he said, “I think you have sleep apnea.” And my wife’s always saying you snore and you fucking make weird noises while you’re sleeping and stuff.” He sounds like he’s in denial

[quote] but he was "partying ... a little to heavy."

[quote]Frankly, that sounds kind of dumb.

Irony.

R310, they had to cancel a show in UAE and stop en route to hospitalize Hawkins in IL a few months ago. They knew he was relapsing.

I do wonder if it will come out who the "guests" he was entertaining were and if they will face any charges. He might have died anyway but Narcan could have helped the opiate part of the OD. Maybe if a doctor had been summoned a bit earlier he could have been hospitalized and saved.

This was not a one time slip, he was pre-gaming HARD with a big show that night.

[quote] Is Pat Smear a gay?

[quote] No, he has a wife.

You’re adorable, r329.

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Pat Smears has always had a bit of a sinister vibe to me. What is his deal? Grohl and Hawkins were always pushed to the front.

In case you haven't seen it, check out this excerpt from Pat Smear's [possibly first-ever] interview in Penelope Spheeris's documentary "The Decline of Western Civilization."

"I don't like girls very much."

Dave’s coloring does not look good @r399

Pat Smear brings a dark cloud. He caused Darby's death when they were in the Germs together.

yes, this is all very sad. So they already knew he was in poor health and yet his wife didn't go along with him to take care of him. Maybe she couldn't stand his drunk ass...

Dave looks like one of the Statler Brothers.

Coke is not good for the heart, kids! Decades of being a junkie will fuck your heart up.

Maybe Taylor did what he wanted despite everyone asking him to stop touring and/or take care of himself. As stated above, at least he died doing what he loved. I hope I die at my desk and those fuckers will have to cart me out and fumigate.

Thanks, R401, have always just gotten a dark vibe from him.

Dave has looked uwell for a while.

If every band with a junkie or drunk in it stopped touring there would not be much live music.

He died doing what he loved, partying in a foreign hotel room, possibly with "paid" company?

I don't think the wives go on tour. There is a "What Stays in Vegas"-type agreement about the groupies and such.

R404, there are 3 young kids. She could not leave them to tour with him. Junkie's gonna do what a junkie's gonna do.

Hopefully Dave will treat this as a wake up call. He looks terrible these days (glug glug.)

I don't think anyone in the band or his wife wanted him to stop touring, there are staggering amounts of money at stake, they headline large festivals.

He has been a junkie for decades, this was not some sudden, new, acute emergency. And remember, Grohl shattered his leg and got back up on the stage.

In the RS article he says his doctor warned him of an enlarged heart but he lies and says it is due to excessive exercising.

[quote]"That in the toxicology test on Taylor Hawkins’ urine ten types of substances were preliminarily found, including marijuana, tricyclic antidepressants, benzodiazepines, and opioids.

I don't know why you bitches are clutching your pearls about TEN substances. That could include a lot of prescription or OTC medications. For example, a 50-year-old bashing the drums every night probably needed Advil. The opioids could have been prescribed. Lots of people are on Klonopin and antidepressants. And pardon me if I'm not shocked that a rock star smoked pot.

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[quote]I don't know why you bitches are clutching your pearls about TEN substances. That could include a lot of prescription or OTC medications.

You don't mix opiates and benzos. Heroin is also an opioid. There was a white powder in his room.

Do you have a link, R413? TIA.

Pat Smear is such an unfortunate name.

R417, here’s a link to RS article without paywall.

Taylor sounds very strung out / almost disoriented in that RS interview.

If I had been that interviewer, my eyebrows would have been raised to the heavens the entire interview.

10 substances seems like an alarming number but my non rock star ass is sitting on my couch with at least 4 maybe 5 in my system.

Thanks, R419. So he knew he was on borrowed time. The link about the stage manager dying suddenly at only 45 is also suss as hell. Thought they were the designated babysitter with the Narcan, typically, on tour.

Methinks the heavily pushed narrative of family, nice guys, etc, was a bit of a deflection, or incomplete.

Lots of death around Grohl and Smear.

Well, R421, if you have a grossly enlarged heart, or maybe even if you don't, you might want to skip speedballing. Tough on the ticker. Has killed a lot of famous folks, many of whom were not middle aged, like River Phoenix.

He was the Rocker I loved. Like Tom Petty's drummer Stan.

Sad. He seemed like a sweet guy.

Wish he could have overcome his issues.

I love that DL blames it in the wife. Never change dickheads

It’s interesting that these guys still have such debilitating stage fright after doing this 30 years. You would think the body would lose its ability to mount a stress response after so many exposures.

There’s a Nomi Malone connection, bitches!

[quote] It’s interesting that these guys still have such debilitating stage fright after doing this 30 years.

Exactly. Also, Taylor said he dreamed of performing in a stadium like Queen did. I saw an interview of David Chase (Sopranos). The interviewer (Michael Imperioli) was talking about how James Gandolfini hated the fame and Chase said: then why be an actor?

Also, from the start, they were probably at least drunk as they stepped onstage. Hence, it was a ritual that they were used to and comfortable with.

One drug that was off-limits (on stage), for Taylor, was marijuana, only because it fucked up his timing (drumming).

"Pat Smear is such an unfortunate name."

Right??? It's almost like a punk rocker just, you know, made it up or something.

Booze actually increases anxiety in some people.

And / or maybe the stage fright was less an issue than the ritual of getting fucked up together.

Thanks, R429, I am not old enough to know these people.

Pergormance anxiety can get worse, more ingrained, as time goes on and weak points get weaker. People who don't have it apparently cannot grasp that.

And yet, here you are in this thread about these fifty-something-year-old people that you have no knowledge of nor interest in, R431. Quite odd.

Do people get high on cortisol injections?

[quote] Never change dickheads

I changed dickheads when I got circumcised.

Without a comma, that’s got to be what you mean.

In my youth “partying” meant an enjoyable evening with friends, usually preceded by an invitation and RSVP. I now understand it means to get together with other people for the sole purpose of taking massive quantities of illegal drugs.

Guess you didn't party with rock starts R436. Northing has changed in 30 years.

If he Got loaded with other people, then we will hear much more about this story

[quote] Do people get high on cortisol injections?

I have high cortisol. It's not pleasant. If you could get "high" from cortisol injections, I'm guessing it's not a pleasant high.

Slip away into the 70/80/90s world of "Sound City" with Dave Grohl, Taylor Hawkins, Stevie Nicks, Lindsay Buckingham, Tom Petty, Barry Manilow, Frank Black, Neil Young, Pat Smear, Rick Springfield, Trent Reznor and Johnny Cash

[quote] In my youth “partying” meant an enjoyable evening with friends, usually preceded by an invitation and RSVP.

Mary!

Chris Cornell was taking prescription Prednisone when he hung himself, I think at least orally that it's not good for one's mental state.

So many great musicians died 2016-2017.

"In my youth 'partying' meant an enjoyable evening with friends, usually preceded by an invitation and RSVP."

R436 forgot to add, "Your finger sandwiches were especially delicious, Mrs. Cleaver, although Wallace retired early with a stomach ache."

Probably uncut. He had that look in his eyes.

seriously, wanda?! This isn't funny at all. They look like clowns!

shit, sorry, wrong thread!

Taylor could’ve sat on my face anytime.

I've always thought Pat was hot. Does anyone know if he has any nudes? I looked around, but no luck! Glad to see he's a sliver daddy. Taylor was only average, but if there are nudes to prove otherwise I am willing to change my mind. Dave was cute back when he was skinny, and had the short hair. I not even going to ask for nudes on him, because he seems the type to piss in a stall so no one sees his dick.

Taylor was good looking when younger. He was sort of morphing into Iggy Pop now. Chris Cornell was by far the best looking rocker from that era.

I don’t know how Wanda can function this evening. So brave.

Thanks for the link to the Rolling Stone piece. The band dynamics are kind of how I expected, it is not a democracy. Hawkins clearly had put a lot of thought into their dynamic and how to make it work for him. Bands are hard, wasn't it Metallica who took a shrink on tour with them? Wonder what tensions the addiction was causing esp after the cancelled gig and rumored hospitalization of Hawkins in IL on way to UAE? For someone who has control issues and with so much on the line, not surprising maybe that Grohl looks like he has been hitting the bottle hard. The comment about the enlarged heart and the drinking a huge amount of water, wonder what that was about?

Yeah, Metallica had a group psychiatrist or psychologist. It's documented in "Some Kind of Monster." James Hetfield went back into rehab in 2019, canceling a tour.

History of the Eagles is also interesting b/c of the band member dynamics, Joe Walsh being the alcoholic contract player, etc.

Does Henley -still- treat Walsh like a bit contract player, even all this time after Frey's death?

Life is shit.

Even if you're rich, people want to be out of it as much as possible to get through life.

Antidepressants, Valium, illegal drugs, booze - whatever to get through the horror show.

He really was looking like Iggy Pop. But Iggy is in his mid-70s.

That’s why I’m horrified by the thought of reincarnation, r455. Fuck that.

I can’t believe Taylor will never know that Will slapped Chris at the Oscars.

Totally. With that oversized rockstar heart, that slap would definitely have finished him off.

[quote] Does Henley -still- treat Walsh like a bit contract player, even all this time after Frey's death?

Not sure, but I'd guess that yes, Walsh is still a contract player. It's not just "treatment," it was a legal fact, I think. As asshole-ish as Henley & Frey appeared in the History of the Eagles, I could understand why they felt entitled to more money & set up the financial structure accordingly.

There was one hilarious line in the documentary. Randy Meisner said he was tired of singing Take It to the Limit and didn't want to sing it any more. Apparently, it's a taxing, vocally, song to sing. Frey got mad and said, "Do you think I like singing Peaceful Easy Feeling every night?"

Anyway, fans love Take It to the Limit and Frey was right to push the issue.

I get it r460, re Henley and Frey's superiority complex. They founded the band, wrote most of the songs, and kept the whole train going throughout the 70s.

These days though Walsh is a major rock industry star and player in his own right. He's besties (brother-in-law) of Ringo and hangs with Sir Paul regularly, he and his wife are big mainstays on the A-list celebrity scene since he sobered up permanently and had all of that (very good, imo) work done on himself. That may be why Henley seems a bit more respectful towards him when discussing him in interviews.

Will band survive this? The anti-VAX or’s are reveling in this. They resent the Foo Fighters for their vaccine requirement

That's so fucking stupid. The anti-vaxxers can go fuck themselves, especially the ones inexplicably hanging out on a gay gossip forum. They are even dumber than the Foo Fighters' very basic dad-rock song structures.

If Foo Fighters disband after this, it's because Dave is too worn-out, tired and drunk to start all over again with a new drummer. Or maybe they'll put out 10 more albums that all sound pretty much the same, none of which I will buy or download.

[quote] Glad to see he's a sliver daddy.

Does this mean he’s not hung?

Just a sliver?

Not one of them could’ve stayed behind to accompany his body back? Pretty cold.

I noticed that too, R465. I’m assuming one of their managers is still there in Colombia.

Taylor Hawkins- OP , if you didn't have a photo posted of him I would have assumed he was BLACK. The name sounds black.

Did you say that you “assumed” R467?

Tour cancelled.

Although I don’t follow foo fighters music, I like some songs like Everlong and others. I feel so sad, I really liked them as persons. Tylor seemed like a nice, funny, humble guy and very talented, when I think of the band I see Dave and Tylor in my mind. Also for David must be so hard as he was like his brother and best friend. I wonder if he miss used the amount of cocaine, ‘cause in Colombia its much purer and stronger. Maybe he went overboard and his heart couldn’t take it.

Dead is as stupid does.

Aren't you a compassionate one, R471?

A musician dead from a drug overdose…who’d have thunk 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

How very sad -- I had a crush on him circa Everlong era.

was his Everlong cut 💎 or uncut 🧀

I wonder if they will break up over this like Zeppelin after Bonham died?

That would be just like the plot of Studio 666 released a month or so before his death, R476. Guess time will tell.

To the deserving, r472; to the deserving.

From Sir Paul (Facebook and Twitter)

Paul McCartney

24m

Taylor’s sudden death came as a shock to me and the people who knew and loved him. Not only was he a GREAT drummer but his personality was big and shiny and will be sorely missed by all who were lucky to live and work alongside him.

I was asked by the Foo Fighters to play on one of their tracks. It turned out that they wanted me to play drums! - on one of Taylor’s songs. This request came from a group with TWO amazing drummers! It was an incredible session and cemented my relationship with Taylor and the guys. Later they asked if I would induct them into the Rock and Rock Hall of Fame. I sang with them on 'Get Back'. Taylor provided a powerhouse drum part. I’ll never forget that night. All of which made it much more of a desperately sad shock to hear he had died. So thanks Taylor for sharing some glorious minutes with me. You were a true Rock and Roll hero and will always remain in my heart.

God bless his family and band - Love Paul X

Cancelling the tour creates lots of work for those involved in its creation and ongoing day to day running. Millions of dollars lost, not only refunding tickets, but the hotel reservations, air travel (private chartered plane or commercial). It's a fucking nightmare.

I can't understand why there was nobody assigned to look after a known addict on a trip to fucking Colombia. If I was in Colombia I'd inquire about cocaine discreetly, and I don't even use it. Nobody thought to make sure Taylor stayed on the straight and narrow? It doesn't matter if Taylor liked it or not. Touring is about money, lots and lots of money. And when one weak link in the chain breaks, this is what happens.

The thing about his chest pains is that pure cocaine is mega potent. A friend I worked with in 1980 told me she was in Colorado and a fellow laid out some teeny lines. She thought he was just stingy until she inhaled it. It was pure. It blew her mind. I'm guess Taylor chopped up some runway threshold lines and just got down there and did a superhero job of inhaling it. Cue chest pains.

r480

Was he related to Screaming Jay Hawkins?

I'm thinking Dave might feel some amount of guilt- it's clear from the Rolling Stone article that Taylor wasn't happy touring.

Also, he must feel even worse if they partied together. That he participated in doing the things with Taylor that eventually killed him.

Poor Dave.

Eh, Dave seems like a bit of a prick, actually. I don’t feel sorry for him. I feel sorry for Taylor’s kids, though.

r472 I think the poster was harsh, but I see his/her point. I'm sorry he's gone, and I don't wish anyone suffering, but OTOH I'm pissed that he had every chance available and didn't take it. He was a multi-millionaire rock star who could've afforded and accessed the best rehab and treatment options, and taken time off to utilize them. There have been literally tens of thousands of drug deaths in North America in this epidemic, of men in his age group alone. Greedy radical & religious activists have forced harm reduction policies down the throats of communities without a rehab option, creating a poverty industry and adding to the death toll. it’s even affected the life expectancy of North American men.

So many could've and would've if we had a proper 4 pillar public drug strategy. The death of someone by his own choices who didn't take anyone else out with him is low on my sympathy list these days. If that sounds cunty, so be it.

R484 Really? I always got the notion that Dave was a pretty great guy. Easy going, fun, ect. I could be wrong, of course. Kurt, I think, could be unpleasant, especially when addiction took hold. But Dave I always liked.

Dave drinks. He's probably drinking right now...

[quote] I wonder if they will break up over this like Zeppelin after Bonham died?

Wait. Bonham died?!

Why haven’t I heard about this?

Elvis is dead too, r488. Sorry to break it to you.

Dave is still far removed from non celebrity/ non rich world . He’s affected

[quote] I'm pissed that he had every chance available and didn't take it. He was a multi-millionaire rock star who could've afforded and accessed the best rehab and treatment options, and taken time off to utilize them.

I can't argue with any of this, but I am sure he didn't intend to die and thought he could handle whatever he was doing. Most people who do illegal substances aren't looking to die.

Yes r482 he was one of his many children

I found the Rolling Stone article upthread to be a really interesting look at the dynamic between Dave and Taylor. In the interview Taylor almost sounds like a cowed wife with a megawatt, narcissistic, controlling husband. And I'm a Dave Grohl fan. Taylor sounded like he was in a constant internal swirl around not being able to bring his own ideas, talent and touring (or not) desires to the table. He makes excuses over and over for Dave being the dominant force. I found it quite sad while I was reading. It felt like it was All Dave All The Time and Taylor was around to be Dave's court jester and companion. I have no doubt their relationship was deeper and much more complex than this, but that was my impression when I read the article.

Dave came across in his autobiography as a boring kiss-arse.

I remember Courtney saying Kurt never liked Dave on Howard Stern.

Ah, yes. The paragon of virtue that is Courtney Love.

I wouldn’t believe her if she said “the sky is blue”

Actually the sky was made of Amethyst

^Zing!

Knowing Hole lyric references makes you lame, not clever.

I was surprised that DG named his kid Violet, a big hit for Hole. I thought he and CL hated one another.

I think Grohl's "nice guy" rep is pushed really hard. That interview with Taylor was sad. The FF are in essence DG and his backing band and I guess he made that clear, repeatedly, to Taylor. A lot of bands are like that and this one did pay very well. So, there's that.

500!

All the side projects are totally about D's ego, the "DGs" disco covers, Studio 666 where Grohl is "possessed" and kills all his bandmates, bit Freudian there, etc. Most of them seem to not care but Taylor liked the limelight too.

From the RS article, it sounds like Hawkins did bring something to the table: the look of the concerts (lighting, effects, etc.). Hawkins was a Queen fan and had eclectic music tastes. I can see Grohl being stuck in a stripped-down, unplugged grunge aesthetic.

I've never seen a FF concert, so I don't know how spectacular the stage looked. I'm just basing this on what TH said in the RS interview. He's so self-effacing, that I would guess it's true that he upped the concert look.

I went through a huge Queen phase about 10 years ago in which I became obsessed with their music. One of the things I liked about Taylor Hawkins was how much he loved Queen too. He seemed like such an unlikely Queen fan which made it cooler.

Kurt didn't like Courtney either! Lol.

Taylor was both visible and vocal at Foo shows and in interviews. And Dave was fine with that.

I liked Dave until I saw some interview where made vaguely sexist remarks about dating models or something along those lines. Plus his music isn’t the most dynamic.

It said there was white powder resembling cocaine on the table but coke was not listed in his urine test. Maybe crunching up pills to snort.

R502 Grohl is a huge metal fan.

Watching Studio 666, now. Rami Jaffee seems gay.

r498? Re-read your own post. Now think.....

[quote]I liked Dave until I saw some interview where made vaguely sexist remarks about dating models or something along those lines. Plus his music isn’t the most dynamic.

Dave's wife isn't exactly a super model.

Taylor and his wife Alison, think they had two kids.

She looks a bit like Anna Paquin.

[quote]He has dwarf features, like a normal sized achondroplasiac.

Exactly my thought every time I saw him. He has a dwarf's head.

When I first saw the picture at the top I thought it was Peter Dinklage.

She pays good money not to be ignored, R496.

My condolences to Sarah Paulson

R512, they have 3 kids. Youngest is 8 I read.

RIP but this Taylor guy is weird looking

R512 might have wanted to read the thread before commenting.

This story seems to have disappeared. Any updates anywhere?

He's still dead, R520. You're right, it was all over the media and disappeared overnight.

THE SLAP pushed Taylor’s death out of the headlines.

[quote] I was surprised that DG named his kid Violet, a big hit for Hole. I thought he and CL hated one another. I think Grohl's "nice guy" rep is pushed really hard.

Yeah, something about Grohl seems so fake and forced and desperate to please, which cannot be said about Courtney whatever you think of her or believe about her.

Pet theory is that Court rejected Dave or mocked him or didn’t take him seriously as a Big Sexy Rockstar Man back in the day, and he never got over it. Narcissist males who are goofy and plain and boring never really can take it well when they realise women aren’t buying what they’re selling.

Imagine being so salty you write this⬇️ about your close friend’s widow to cash in.

Are we sure that song is about Courtney?

I’m not a huge fan of the song, but now that I’m really thinking about the lyrics, it seems more of a “trust your instincts about people— get away from them if they make you feel like shit” kind of song.

I have trouble picturing Dave and Courtney really being a part of each other’s lives to that degree.

I really liked that song but it’s hard to listen to since I heard it’s about Courtney. Everyone involved is talented but I love that crazy bitch. She has no filter and I really admire people who are so genuine even when it’s messy. I love her music too.

Watch ‘Soaked In Bleach’ you’ll hate that borderline bitch for having Kurt whacked and getting away with it!

[quote]I think Grohl's "nice guy" rep is pushed really hard. Yeah, something about Grohl seems so fake and forced

He certainly came across as passive-aggressive in the Howard Stern interview snippet about Jakob Dylan. He talked big about the Foo Fighters giving more work to Rami than the Wallflowers did (true) and made a lot of vague, snickering remarks, but never came out and said what his issue with Jakob was.

[quote]Rami Jaffee seems gay.

Not that having a wife and kid means he isn't, but factor that in. He's a self-described "New York Jew" with a Moroccan parent, so maybe it's more about mannerisms? He doesn't set off my gaydar, but mine isn't highly calibrated, so...

any details regarding where he's buried etc?

was he cremated?

Grohl has acted the same way re: other bands too.

Grohl is kind of a bitch.

Now he’s a fat, bloated bitch.

Still dead?

[quote]Grohl has acted the same way re: other bands too.

Maybe Grohl should worry more about crafting songs that don't all sound the same and less on what more talented songwriters are doing.

Sounds like he hated their brutal touring schedule.

I was just coming to post that r534. He seemed like a good guy who couldn't say no.

In interviews, it was mentioned that Taylor pretty much worshipped Grohl and wouldn't contradict him.

[quote]Rami Jaffee seems gay.

He may not be gay but he sure is a pussy.

Wow, Cameron really stepped in it. Rolling Stone has long passed the point of respecting artists.

Whole piece

Check out the sagging face at r534

Maybe his heart gave out, it was enlarged . And who knows how accurate a third world country is when they’re doing medical exams? He was supposedly addicted to exercise to give him e same feeling as the drugs. He seemed so genuine. Always loved him in interviews, really like a kid who was so happy to be there doing what he loved. He always crushed it singing Queen songs. Very sad. Yet we’re stuck with Kardashians and MAGAs and BLM shady fucks !

Did they do a tribute to him at Glastonbury?

As the Foo Fighters did not 'believe' in AIDS, do not think they were embrace vaccine damage.

I just want to say that Dave Grohl strikes me (especially in his mustachioed/dadbod/Oak Ridge Boys-looking Foo Fighters incarnation) as the type of guy who leaves carnage-level stink in the bathroom when he takes a shit. And he doesn't care who hears the sounds or smells the smell.

He just strikes me as that type of guy.

So he died of heartbreak? I don't get it.

Did they ever release an official tox report? All we heard was that preliminary report of the 11 or so substances, but it takes time for a true tox read.

[QUOTE] All we heard was that preliminary report of the 11 or so substances, but it takes time for a true tox read.

Must be a Heath Ledger stan.