Are gay men misogynists for not being attracted to biological women?

I remember reading this in an old (pop?) psychology book I leafed through in a thrift store. It said that, because gay men cannot form sexual bonds with women, they are incapable of viewing women as fully human.

More evidence that the trans activists are using the term "queer" as cover to attack gays and lesbians (and a lot of gays and lesbians are unwittingly going along with it).

R1, The person who told me this was trans and specifically said the revulsion to vaginas is based on misogyny. I don’t think was looking at it in the old second wave feminist way but the new “queer” way.

No, they're just homosexual.

"Queer" activists seem to be like a fifth column in the community, who take the arguments of homophobes and add some words, so that now what was homophobic is "woke."

I am a GenX feminist and the idea that gay men are misogynists because they are not attracted to women is bullshit.

What I find misogynistic is the way gay men voice their revulsion toward women, not the fact that they are not attracted to vaginas.

Gay men on Datalounge.

OP, I'm curious if you were hypothetically interested in trans women, would that also make you a misogynist? Given that the hole in question would have been man-made.

This is just nonsense being spewed by our young navel gazers.

r5 Which is why it is so frustrating and baffling that the UK labour party and the US Democrats have given them a political home. Truly it is impossible to fathom.

Are lesbians misandrists then for avoiding penises?

[quote]I just had a discussion with a “queer” activists

Never happened.

The activist sounds exhausting. Use their own tactic and cancel him/her/them.

cool, yet again rape culture dressed up as progress. I won't use the clap emoji because it's fucking obnoxious but for those who need to hear it: no one is obliged to be fucked by anyone who doesn't want to fuck them. no is a complete sentence. No reason is needed.

Queers aren't usually active. They are usually passive bottoms. ( not that there's anything wrong with that).

Bullshit. I love women, but have zero sexual attraction.

One more time... The dick wants what the dick wants and dismisses any input from me

It's not just the gays on the DL. I have plenty of friends who love to do the 🤮 face when talking about the ginas.

@r18, If my dick could drive and carry money it would leave me at home. My dick has brought home people that I probably wouldn't have given the time of day to. Do you think I could tell it to like women? Hahaha!

This is all such woke, academic bullshit. We're just going to have to go back to being garden variety fags. It's much less complicated and exhausting.

Nonsense!

"Queer" now means pudgy young "poly" women with blue/purple hair and tattoos, nerdy straight emo boys who wear nail polish and bearded men wearing dresses.

Meet my favorite queer of the day: a poet named MIN KREINER. Min is "genderqueer" and keeps busy scribbling away.

R23 here

No surprise - our "queer" of the day Min appears to be an obese woman and she is married to someone who appears to be an obese male.

Queer mostly means straight people trying to be "edgy" and to be able to claim victimhood status.

To this day I have never felt hatred from any one gender to another as that of TERF's to men, straight men in particular but men in general.

^ Nonsense - the "man-hating feminist" trope went out with the 1970s. And anyway there is no such thing as a TERF. It's just a made-up term of abuse to hurl at people when you can't counter their arguments.

"Queer," meanwhile, is purely a cultural term now, like "hippie" or "redneck" - it refers to a very specific, readily identifiable group of people (a stereotype, even, just like R23 says), and I get really annoyed when people use it as an all-purpose substitute for "gay" or "lesbian." Most of us gays and lesbians are not queer, but queer activists like to pretend we are so they can tell us what we're supposed to think.

Trust women to label any man that doesn’t want them a misogynist.

Women can be manipulative creeps.

R26 um in what universe did the trope die? lol....it is healthily kept alive by many....especially on this board, and by the same terf-y old broads as you'd expect.

Go visit tumblr or certain reddit subreddits and come back to me.

Excellent point Op !

r29

Now you understand that the T and Q are the enemies of LG people

Are they misogynists?

Um. no, they are just gay.

Are straight men misandrists for not sucking dick?

^ I don't know, but they sure are rude about it when you ask

And our gay women misandrists for not wanting dick in a dress?

R31 Also, B, because regardless of what some people think being bisexual does not mean you are automatically attracted to T. I am attracted to men and women not some mixture. The point is that individuals should be free to be attracted to whomever they are attracted to, forcing someone to be attracted to you and sleep with you is rape. It seems like we are losing all the progress made by LGBs upon the demands of the Ts who are much smaller than we are.

0/10

Just a pretext for yet another anti-trans jihadi thread. Because there aren’t enough of those on DL yet.

R37, go tuck your limp dick in between your legs

R13 nailed it. This '"queer" activist' doesn't exist.

Also true: OP is a POS troll.

How is it some people here can't see through it and just FF that fucker and put the cunt on ignore.

Where did this interaction happen, OP?

are straight men misandrists for not being attracted to biological men?

It gets more fucking ridiculous every day.

Why are you doubting the OP, pos at r39? Lesbians have to put up with this bullshit all the time, with "transbians" and their "allies" smearing us as "transphobic" because we don't want to have sex with biological men who "identify" as women.

It's funny how the idiot followers of the trans cult deny what their trans friends are literally saying and the logical conclusion of trans demands.

R37, do lesbians have penises, in your opinion?

DL's Bis and Queers would answer YES to your question, OP. Without hesitation.

r3 are you sure they weren't a rad fem?

OP, if someone says that to you, just cut them off. Don’t debate. Just tell they’re ignorant and homophobic. Definition of sexual orientation isn’t up for debate

Some gay men are misogynists, but not necessarily because they are gay.

Some straight men are also misogynists. We mostly call them "incels" now but they can also be womanizers.

Some women are misogynists, too.

All of the above rationalize their hatred in various, sometimes shockingly similar ways.

r42 It's funny how the idiot followers of the rad cult deny what their rad fems friends are literally saying and the logical conclusion of rad fem demands.

you made it about lesbians without confronting the gay men aspect of it. Is it because it's a common belief system among the various women that believe lesbianism is a political choice and that ultimately, the fault of everything wrong in society is the result of gay men. While certainly they hate trans... a larger portion of their 'activism' targets gay men specifically. Why is that?

[quote] It said that, because gay men cannot form sexual bonds with women, they are incapable of viewing women as fully human.

Gee, that would mean that because straight women cannot form sexual bonds with women they are incapable of viewing women, including themselves, as fully human.

R47 funny no mention of women hating men

Get the fuck out of here. You are so transparent.

[quote] ultimately, the fault of everything wrong in society is the result of gay men... a larger portion of their 'activism' targets gay men specifically. Why is that?

Because they hate them because gay men don't want or need pussy

r49 dive into the realm of the "political lesbian" and be scarred for life!

Oh shut up, r48. I didn't "make it" about lesbians, I pointed out that I absolutely believe what OP is saying, contrary to the homophobe at r39, because lesbians have to put up with similar shit all the time.

r53 but yet men, don't?

R48 WTF are you smoking?

No, in fact, gay men are usually the ones who value a woman's humanity wheras straight men see her as a sex object. Gay men have historically been the glorifiers of women. Your friend is a moron, OP.

r55 funny how often ad hominem is used to avoid questions, no?

Ok R57

Waiting for you to get beamed aboard the spaceship.

R50 because the topic of the thread is misogyny.

Should we go through the numerous claims of high profiled self described political lesbians and/or radical feminists that have pushed these homophobic narratives for decades -- and often at the very root of the trans positions?

because it is interesting.

those that despise trans but want to abolish gender

but hate gay men because they're born that way - and well, any woman really that expresses sexual attraction....

while believing every woman would naturally "choose" to be a lesbian (they play fast and lose with that definition, too) without the patriachy.

r59 again, are the insults necessary? Or do you just capitalize on people's ignorance, what next screaming I'm misogynistic when this is routinely championed from the left to right under the guise of feminism, where just people regardless of their prefered pronouns, are free to be homophobic because "it's about misogyny" and if we want to address those conflicts we could go make a forum for misandry -- which, of course, they don't believe exists... except in the form of toxic masculinity.

Am I supposed to unpack the word salad at R61?

Anyway, some people seem really invested in the idea of radical man-hating feminists. If they really do exist, they're about 0.001 percent of the population and not really relevant to OP's point.

(On the other hand, I have to say there are definitely some misogynistic gay guys on this thread and plenty of other threads on DL, but they have mother issues, it has nothing to do with being attracted to dick or pussy.)

Women are perfectly capable of being CEOs and presidents but are simultaneously delicate iddle flowers because patriarchy, so any criticism of them is misogyny.

OP is a fat, stupid troll who doesn't understand the meaning of "hate" and "feel not attracted."

r62 Ah, yes. claiming they largely don't exist.

I have to wonder if you've read any of the published works, anywhere, from any of the academics to it's most popularized media personalities.

But it show just show you are relying the public's ignorance. So, thank you for answering the question.

Oh, one more, can you name a high profile rad fem that is a staunch advocate for gay men?

Or maybe if such evidence was found of expressed homophobia rooted within the larger body of the feminism movement and particularly the gender critical or those opposed to trans, would you denounce it?

(yes, it's a trap.. dear. And no, merely claiming others have misinterpreted isn't the same as calling it out... as again, we can highlight the many, many high profiled women on the frontline that have no qualms on targeting gay biological males for little else than being gay and biologically male.)

Of course I agree with you, R49. I was just reminded of this BS by OP's post.

[quote]Oh, one more, can you name a high profile rad fem that is a staunch advocate for gay men?

well, there's obviously J.K. Rowling

Ever noticed that whenever there's a thread or discussion about the homophobia that is at the root of genderist ideology, some incessant poster rams in and starts banging on and on about feminists as a distraction from the transqueer lunacy?

I have just written on another thread about a straight female friend. She says that she couldn' t be with a FtM, but a MtF, who didn't have any operation, top nor bottom, would be rather intriguing for her.

Call those troons for what they are op, homophobic fucks.

In other words, r70, your straight female friend is open to sleeping with people who have male bodies (aka men) but has no interest in sleeping with people who have female bodies (aka women). Did you point out to her that this is because she's a straight woman?

You are kinda right here, R72.

R68, ask an actual radical feminist if they think JK Rowling is a radfem.