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Are you offended by attractive males being used in ads aimed towards gay men?

[quote] How Andrew Christian has used low self-image and body shaming within the gay community to create an underwear empire.

[quote] Andrew Christian is notably known for his very popular line of designer underwear for men. His catalogue extends from swim suits to T-shirts, as well as jock straps to briefs. His underwear line has reached mega fame by being worn by gay men, literally, all over the world. His booth is most frequented at Gay prides, and his models are the most favored stars at Pride and other LGBT events. The muscled hunks, present and past porn stars, are more celebrated than organizations that lead to progressivism within the community.

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[quote] Body shaming has been a very sure fire way to sell clothing items to people who have a low self-image. The idea is to create an ideal beauty. In Andrew Christian’s case, it is making the ideal gay man’s body. Which he would believe he has in the models he selects to be ambassadors for the Andrew Christian name. Body shaming is creating an ideal persona or body that all others must now compare themselves to. Andrew Christian and his marketing campaign for muscled and tanned men strictly limit those that could ever be Andrew Christian models, or models of any kind. It is nice to look at a man with muscles, but the overall perception of beauty being only as superficial as muscle and looks sends the message that the gay community is one solely based on our visual perception of others.

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[quote] Sexualization is to make something sexual in character or quality. Andrew Christian does just this to the gay man. When something is sexualized it becomes the norm for what should be seen as sexy, same as Victoria secret models, or beauty pageants. What happens when you create sexy? Not only are you exposing the world to a certain culture, we are also isolating, and we out cast, a majority of people who do not fit this mold. Andrew Christian’s models and advertisements do just that. The gay community is filled with insecurity of not being good enough. From our coming out we are either faced with learning that our families either say “We don’t want a gay son,” or even learning that they just want us out the house. We become immediately insecure with not being what they want, not being a good enough son, and feeling alone.

[quote] The psychology of coming out is one based on validation of others, and a denial of that validation can lead to many other mental stability issues. We seek comfort from those that are similar to us. Still, we can be told we aren’t good enough. We can be told, we are too masculine and trying to fit into a straight world, all the while trying to find love in the world, we are then faced with am I good looking enough to be with someone, will anyone find me attractive? At the end what is our go to, but images in the media to tell us where we stand in the world. . . .

[quote] Andrew Christian once said in an interview that he makes his underwear to make people feel sexy, that his underwear, are in fact, to make everyone feel good about themselves, good; however, there remains the lack of understanding of what happens with gay men when we see these images of “beauty”, posted for us all to measure up to, on the internet. The argument can be made to say that there is always that one special person out there for us, but what happens when that one person has become clouded with images of the gay man he is supposed to be, and the gay man he is supposed to be with. When does the everyday gay man become the poster for gay pride? He does not. He remains silent because the images of the ideal gay man is plastered up on the internet, and he is left to feel insignificant; his voice is quieted by dance music, as well as, the partying that comes with the celebration of Andrew Christian models and porn stars in our community.

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by Anonymousreply 94April 30, 2022 10:16 PM

So ads should use ugly models so people who watch them won’t feel bad? Really?

by Anonymousreply 1March 20, 2022 8:30 PM

From the author's bio at the end of the piece.

[quote]I frequent Disneyland. My idol is Walt Disney,

Not surprising.

by Anonymousreply 2March 20, 2022 8:35 PM

[quote] Are you offended by attractive males being used in ads aimed towards gay men?

Offended, hell no, it should be a requirement.

by Anonymousreply 3March 20, 2022 8:39 PM

To the person who wrote that article:

Then don't buy the underwear you insecure, jealous, fat whore.

by Anonymousreply 4March 20, 2022 8:42 PM

"Examining Andrew Christian’s advertisement, “The Audition,” we are exposed to many stigma and prejudices others have of the gay community. For example, Excessive use of alcohol, half naked men with jock straps having their rear ends hanging out, and also the promiscuity."

The writer sounds like quite the prissy pisspants. Fuck off, you fat cunt!

by Anonymousreply 5March 20, 2022 8:53 PM

Welcome to the life of the perpetually offended.

by Anonymousreply 6March 20, 2022 8:57 PM

It’s very simple. As you age and mature, you realize that most people in the real world don’t look like a fitness model. I have a full-time job and I’m also in grad school. I don’t have time to spend six days a week in the gym, nor do I think this is something I need to aspire to. As long as I’m reasonably in shape and not 300 pounds, that’s good enough. That’s good enough for most people.

You should also realize that celebrities and fitness models with six pack abs don’t look like that all the time. They only look like that when they’re getting ready for a movie or a photo shoot. It’s impossible to keep that up all the time.

by Anonymousreply 7March 20, 2022 8:58 PM

Who wears that effeminate fetish wear? Seriously

by Anonymousreply 8March 20, 2022 9:00 PM

R2, I saw that as well and thought the same thing.

by Anonymousreply 9March 20, 2022 9:01 PM

OP- I don't see ANY attractive males in your photo. I just see a bunch of Hardcore Scene Queens.

by Anonymousreply 10March 20, 2022 9:02 PM

Stupid! Pretty people are good at selling stuff! The madness!

by Anonymousreply 11March 20, 2022 9:05 PM

The author. He’ll be crying over his student loan debt and his inability to find a job.

David Mosqueda

I frequent Disneyland. My idol is Walt Disney, and my favorite author is F. Scott Fitzgerald. I’m an LGBTQ Writer/ Director for film. I am studying to get my Bachelor’s in fine Arts for film and minoring in Queer Theory. My greatest goal in life is to create a world where Queer Cinema and the cinema we are regularly exposed to are one in the same.

by Anonymousreply 12March 20, 2022 9:14 PM

The author is a deranged Bernie supporter.

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by Anonymousreply 13March 20, 2022 9:16 PM

I only buy underwear advertised by elderly, fat-tastic, male-to-female transgender persons of color, thank you very much.

by Anonymousreply 14March 20, 2022 9:18 PM

[quote]Are you offended by attractive males being used in ads aimed towards gay men?

I'm offended when they're not being used.

by Anonymousreply 15March 20, 2022 9:19 PM

R12 I just spontaneously puked after reading that.

by Anonymousreply 16March 20, 2022 9:22 PM

No.

Next question.

by Anonymousreply 17March 20, 2022 9:27 PM

"I’m an LGBTQ Writer." Oh, so he's not only gay and queer, he's also a bisexual lesbian tranny too?

by Anonymousreply 18March 20, 2022 9:31 PM

"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent."

- that homely broad in the White House

by Anonymousreply 19March 20, 2022 9:37 PM

R18 I fucking hate people who identify as “LGBTQ.” That is NOT a real identity. It is physically impossible to be gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, nonbinary, and a straight woman with blue hair.

by Anonymousreply 20March 20, 2022 9:39 PM

This self-obsessed over-entitled journalist refers to himself as 'The Gay Gatsby'.

by Anonymousreply 21March 20, 2022 9:40 PM

As if. Stupid queen.

by Anonymousreply 22March 20, 2022 9:42 PM

LGBTQ Fresno? That ranks up there with LGBTQ Stockton and LGBTQ Modesto. Probably better than LGBTQ Peoria or LGBTQ Lima, OH

by Anonymousreply 23March 20, 2022 9:47 PM

What a pethetic thread.

by Anonymousreply 24March 20, 2022 10:45 PM

R24 We can't make a slk purse out of a 'pethetic' pig's ear.

by Anonymousreply 25March 20, 2022 10:49 PM

The author took gender and queer studies at Fresno State an WILL NOT BE IGNORED. It's and OUTRAGE. HOT GUYS IN UNDERWEAR ADS IS LITERAL GENOCIDE AND HEGEMONIC RAPE OF THE HUGELY FUG!!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 26March 20, 2022 11:16 PM

[quote] Are you offended by attractive males being used…

I'm offended by millennial journalists who give us three thousand words of worthlessness.

by Anonymousreply 27March 20, 2022 11:21 PM

No. The existence of attractive men is not a threat and doesn't spin me into ennui over "impossible beauty standards."

[quote]half naked men with jock straps having their rear ends hanging out

Are we sure the Mosqueda's grandmother isn't the real author of this piece?

by Anonymousreply 28March 20, 2022 11:34 PM

No one said you had to be a well-built, handsome man to enjoy looking at well-built, handsome men.

Personally, I would rather they be full-frontal naked wearing the underwear around their necks.

by Anonymousreply 29March 20, 2022 11:41 PM

Why don't they SELL the unwashed underwear from these photo shoots?

by Anonymousreply 30March 20, 2022 11:42 PM

I'm confused where are these "attractive" "male” Andrew Christian models? For the last several years he's been using ugly midget women larping as men, drag queens and every repulsive effeminate stereotype you could think of to market his tacky underwear. Surely that's where the complaint should be—the lack of attractive male models.

by Anonymousreply 31March 20, 2022 11:49 PM

Why doesn’t he hire regular masculine models? The only time any of his models are somewhat masculine is when he uses porn stars

by Anonymousreply 32March 21, 2022 12:37 AM

No one wants to buy stuff from ugly people. This isn't the UK, you know.

by Anonymousreply 33March 21, 2022 12:43 AM

When I was a kid, ads with hot men were the closest we ever got to gay porn.

by Anonymousreply 34March 21, 2022 12:44 AM

Lmao, if there is ONE thing that united gay men besides love of dick it's love of hot men. Ugly models would be the offensive thing. We speak with one voice.

by Anonymousreply 35March 21, 2022 12:46 AM

R31 That is because OP is among the new wave of BRAINLESS DLers who don't realize that everyone on the Internet is not new.

The shit link for this shit "article" is to SHIT reposting site that doesn't even have a date.

But the article appeared in 2015. Because of course it did.

DL circling the drain.

by Anonymousreply 36March 21, 2022 12:47 AM

[quote]ou should also realize that celebrities and fitness models with six pack abs don’t look like that all the time. They only look like that when they’re getting ready for a movie or a photo shoot.

Not only that, they are using HGH and steroids--and are digitally altered in all photos and films.

by Anonymousreply 37March 21, 2022 12:48 AM

R23 F/F asshole LGBT Peoria has notable alumni such as myself and DL Fav Aaron Schock.

by Anonymousreply 38March 21, 2022 12:49 AM

When I was a kid, an ad with a 40 year old man was the closest we ever got to gay porn.

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by Anonymousreply 39March 21, 2022 12:49 AM

Someone writes about the "sexualization of gay men" as though it's a bad thing!

by Anonymousreply 40March 21, 2022 1:01 AM

It's an outrage!

by Anonymousreply 41March 21, 2022 1:02 AM

The early 2010s called and wants it bloggy "journalism" of outrage back.

by Anonymousreply 42March 21, 2022 1:08 AM

His Queer Theory electives must have skipped history (physique mags, duh).....

by Anonymousreply 43March 21, 2022 1:14 AM

"Offended by"? Hardly! I love all sorts of free entertainment.

by Anonymousreply 44March 21, 2022 4:35 AM

I wonder if Jesus Christ would be upset that the Andrew Christian Corporation has stolen his surname to help men jerk off.

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by Anonymousreply 45March 21, 2022 6:31 AM

Exsqueeze me? Hot people have been used to sell everything from laxatives to cars since the beginning of print and television advertising. If the hot, pretty people offend you, you don't have to buy the product. Get real.

by Anonymousreply 46March 21, 2022 6:37 AM

Offended or jealous, OP? Take your stand.

by Anonymousreply 47March 21, 2022 6:44 AM

r36 social media revives everything, dear. It came up on another platform and I thought it was worth a laugh.

by Anonymousreply 48March 21, 2022 6:46 AM

It's just the author projecting his insecurities on others. Some people are able to discern fantasy from reality. I know those fitness models advertising shaving cream aren't the norm. It doesn't mean I don't appreciate looking at them.

What's next? We tear down Michaelangelo's David for "unrealistic depictions of the male form"?

They can take down all those hot Jesus' as well.

by Anonymousreply 49March 21, 2022 6:47 AM

r40 Oh but it is... so I'm regularly told, it's that gay men desire male privilege and therefore, homosexuality is constructed in the vision of heterosexuality. blah. blah. homophobia is really misogyny and so is gay male sexuality because it expresses the intent to harm the feminine, e.g. women... especially, if we exhibit the male gaze and don't cry over every subsequent erection.

by Anonymousreply 50March 21, 2022 6:58 AM

Anyone who says homophobia is misogyny has no idea what they're talking about R50. In some ways forms of misogyny, particularly toxic masculinity, are actually rooted in homophobia.

by Anonymousreply 51March 21, 2022 7:04 AM

The more attractive males being sexualized the better, in my view.

Lately I'm liking those two guys in the t-shirt ads.

by Anonymousreply 52March 21, 2022 9:31 AM

I definitely don't have a problem with the use of attractive male models. I do have a problem with the use of half-attractive porn actors being used as models and I think the gay community's and it's commercial leader's push of those sketchy sorts is in bad taste. Like someone said above, I appreciate a hot guy in underwear but AC "models" are gross caricatures of an even grosser subset of gay men. The entire catalogue is basically fetishwear for over-stimulated scene queens. It must be some horrid trash-heap of an upbringing and existence that leads a gay man to don such ghastly, gaudy drawers.

by Anonymousreply 53March 21, 2022 10:32 AM

I think Andrew Christian is a prick and I don't buy his products, but I have no problem with using attractive people to sell anything - it's just good business. I don't understand why people complain about hot people being on magazines and ads etc - I want to see hot people selling a lifestyle, I can see ordinary ugly people all the time just walking down the street.

by Anonymousreply 54March 21, 2022 2:48 PM

Wow everyone here is unanimous on supporting looking at eye candy. It shows truly how vapid and superficial the community really is--so much it is CELEBRATED!! ENCOURAGED!!! No one seems to care about the scores of gay men who are hurt by this advertising. I can see the typical DLer saying "Who cares? They're fugly anyway! Show me hot guys all day!!" UGH. I am tired of the "sex sells" mantra. I want reality... I know I am in the minority about this. Some gay men struggle with identity issues, self-worth, and body image all their lives. These images do not help. I guess they should just be considered ugly and discounted, while the bronze gods of Andrew Christian are celebrated and hoisted up as the real heroes of gay men...

by Anonymousreply 55March 21, 2022 3:31 PM

Not offended, just find it completely unappealing. It looks like a bunch of mannequins. They all look the same. I don't find jockstraps appealing either. They've been done to death.

by Anonymousreply 56March 21, 2022 4:01 PM

That look is a complete turn off: the candy/pastel coloured clothes and accessories; the slutty briefs, and jockstraps on anyone who isn’t an actual jock. The hottest guys are always the ones who don’t try to look hot.

by Anonymousreply 57March 21, 2022 4:05 PM

[quote]So ads should use ugly models so people who watch them won’t feel bad?

Have you been to Target lately? Their in-store "posters" feature fat women with skin disorders in their panties. I just avert my eyes.

by Anonymousreply 58March 21, 2022 6:26 PM

R55, I see your point, and to some extent, the article's point.

I think the main concern here is that the article was poorly written by an insecure queen. It could have been more effective to write an article that highlights the few examples of more realistic/hot eye candy for gay men to look at, and encourage that, instead of complaining about something that's already out there, as if that is supposed to make us 'think'. I'm not going to suddenly feel ashamed because I enjoy looking at men in print, or that I tried to zoom in the photo of all those pastel packages to get a better look (and was annoyed that I couldn't).

But one thing is universally true for gay men, a nice looking guy is worth looking at - AND they don't have to be vapid scene queens to get our attention. Look at all the love DL gives to stars like Andrew Garfield, Benedict Cumberbatch, and Antonio Banderas (who is still hot as an elder, and never was a buff bronzed god). None of these guys should be selling 'sexy pastel' underwear, but they give a vibe that turns a lot of men on.

by Anonymousreply 59March 22, 2022 5:32 PM

Isn’t David Mosqueda the “lispy queer” that Steven Crowder got in trouble for making fun of?

David, quit trying to make “lispy queers” happen. Many of us are not into that. Focus on being what your target demographic is looking for.

by Anonymousreply 60March 22, 2022 11:22 PM

Exceptional beauty is always going to be prized and valued, no matter what.

by Anonymousreply 61March 22, 2022 11:24 PM

Yeah, it’s a stereotype. I’m attracted to mature and rugged types, but people automatically assume as a gay amn I’m only attracted to college-age model types or barely legal twinks.

by Anonymousreply 62March 23, 2022 8:40 AM

^ “man”

by Anonymousreply 63March 23, 2022 8:40 AM

Andrew Christian models have never been hot, they look like circuit queens with butterfaces.

by Anonymousreply 64March 23, 2022 1:05 PM

And extremely stereotypical

by Anonymousreply 65March 23, 2022 2:18 PM

Being an ugly slightly overweight gay is literally (yes LITERALLY [MARY!]) worse than death!

by Anonymousreply 66March 23, 2022 6:24 PM

Oh give it a rest, gurl. If we wanted to look at ugly people we'd un-fog the bathroom mirror getting out the shower. I'll buy the undies worn by cute models. This has all become so tiresome!!!!

by Anonymousreply 67March 23, 2022 6:30 PM

OP- There is NO ONE hot in that photo. It's just a bunch of HARDCORE scene queens.

by Anonymousreply 68April 30, 2022 2:24 PM

Fine, these are my new models.

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by Anonymousreply 69April 30, 2022 2:32 PM

What a stupid question, OP. The only ones who would be offended are stupid straight men. But you knew that, right? Unless you're a stupid straight man?

by Anonymousreply 70April 30, 2022 2:35 PM

Years ago, I worked with an agency that marketed drugs to doctors. The account I was working on included several HIV drugs.

Most of the doctors who specialized in treating HIV patients were gay men. One of my jobs was watching market research videos of these doctors rating various ad concepts, and typing up summaries of results.

Again and again and again, they would choose the concept with an attractive man. If there was a concept with more than one attractive man, even better. The more buff, the less clothed, the better. This held true with both American doctors and foreign doctors. The ad copy and the drug's claims were secondary concerns, at best. Often they were quite open when asked why they preferred a concept: "I like that guy in the shorts."

I suspect the agency eventually realized that if they wanted a particular concept to be well received in market research, they either had to include cute boys in that concept, OR they had to make sure that there were no cute boys in ANY of the concepts, because the ones with the boys would win every single time.

All this to say: People may or may not be offended, but sex sells.

by Anonymousreply 71April 30, 2022 2:41 PM

R70 check your meds

by Anonymousreply 72April 30, 2022 2:43 PM

R72 fuck yourself.

by Anonymousreply 73April 30, 2022 2:44 PM

R73 check those meds again

by Anonymousreply 74April 30, 2022 2:50 PM

Sexualization of gay men?

You'll be hearing from my lawyers.

by Anonymousreply 75April 30, 2022 2:50 PM

R74 fuck yourself again, since no one else will touch you.

by Anonymousreply 76April 30, 2022 2:51 PM

Does anyone remember the very popular Andrew Christian model from videos about 10 years ago. Said he was straight but had lots of threads here. White guy. Well, weren’t they all. Damn, my memory is fading.

by Anonymousreply 77April 30, 2022 2:51 PM

Ads that use guys that look like porn models make no impression on me. I only want to see guys like that naked and having sex.

by Anonymousreply 78April 30, 2022 2:56 PM

R76 you're the one lurking in a thread about the use of sex to sell products to gay men, hoping for a glimpse of hot guys.

by Anonymousreply 79April 30, 2022 2:58 PM

Quinn Jaxon. Memory cell awakes. Wonder whatever happened to him.

by Anonymousreply 80April 30, 2022 3:03 PM

Oh, am I, R79? Actually, I wasn't, I was merely commenting on the stupidity of the premise as posited by OP. Now, fuck off.

by Anonymousreply 81April 30, 2022 3:32 PM

R81 Good job on killing the thread then, psycho

by Anonymousreply 82April 30, 2022 3:37 PM

Oh, did I single-handedly kill it, asshole, R82? All 81 posts of it since March 20? Good.

by Anonymousreply 83April 30, 2022 3:48 PM

So I want to see unattractive males being used in ways that are intended not be aimed at gay men?

Idiot.

by Anonymousreply 84April 30, 2022 3:50 PM

Thank you, R84, for seeing the stupidity of this thread. You're quicker than others.

by Anonymousreply 85April 30, 2022 3:51 PM

Because gay men have NEVEH EVEH been sexualized.

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by Anonymousreply 86April 30, 2022 4:28 PM

I'm not offended at all. I like it.

by Anonymousreply 87April 30, 2022 4:30 PM

I love it. Attractive men SHOULD be used for their looks and their bodies. That's all they're good for.

by Anonymousreply 88April 30, 2022 4:35 PM

R88- I like seeing attractive guys too but I’m he guys in a OP’s photo are NOT attractive.

by Anonymousreply 89April 30, 2022 4:41 PM

Sorry for my shitty typing- The guys in OP’s photo

by Anonymousreply 90April 30, 2022 4:42 PM

Attractive guys not really but porn performers are kinda gross.

by Anonymousreply 91April 30, 2022 6:17 PM

This is TikTok's basic model.

by Anonymousreply 92April 30, 2022 6:20 PM

Not offended, but don't expect me to fall for the blatant attempt at manipulation.

by Anonymousreply 93April 30, 2022 7:31 PM

When I see Andrew Christian on a waistband I think "cheap underwear".

by Anonymousreply 94April 30, 2022 10:16 PM
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