Bernie working to block Kamala in 2024

Kamala is also working to block Kamala in 2024.

Does this mean Bernie or Elizabeth Warren won't be running?

as if Kamala Harris would win anyway lmao

Of course Bernie would try to clothesline the most powerful Black woman in the country.

But he is deluded to imagine far-left whites would vote for an Indian man, so I'm not too pressed.

[quote] Of course Bernie would try to clothesline the most powerful Black woman in the country.

BWAAAAH.

[quote] Of course Bernie would try to clothesline the most powerful Black woman in the country.

BWAAAH.

Ro Khanna!

Oh, my sides, MY SIDES!!!

Ro Khanna does not have a prayer. I genuinely like Bernie but so much of his strategy is just pure delusion because his people don’t listen to criticism. He’ll be like Goldwater: the next generation of Democrats will be heavily influenced by him, and his legacy will come about that way.

Sherrod Brown has been waiting in the wings since he took a pass on 2020. His wife’s Twitter addiction might be an issue, but maybe not.

Ro Khanna's presidential campaign will go the same way as that of "Bobby" Jindal.

Yes, yeah, this will help and seal the deal that the Republicans won't retake the White House in 2024. Seriously, the far-left Democrats are visually, socially and politically clueless.

I'm a realist, if the election were held tomorrow, none of them would win. Kamala, Pete, Ro, Stacey. But a lot can happen between now and '24, good and bad.

This thread's r1 is the best r1 so far this year.

r2, Bernie is a thousand years old; he'll likely be dead to us by 2024. As for Warren, the republican will just dust of the jokes about her being a Native American.

r4, why do you think the far-left wouldn't vote for him because he's Indian American?

Dems need a charismatic moderate.

Go down with your best. I hope Warren is the chosen candidate. In another place and time - Kamala could win this. She's incumbent and attractive and likeable and smart and progressive and cautious and surrounded with talented and all wrong. Pete is not as fake - but he's meaner and weirder. They ain't it. Stacey Abrams seems sketchy to me. I don't know what it is.

Elizabeth Warren will not be undone by that native remark. STOP repeating it. Nobody cares about it but Donald Trump.

Trump will NOT be in the 2024 race. Warren is an excellent candidate and would be a marvellous president. The rhetoric is changing. Biden is the bridge back to something resembling more normal communication. That's his historical purpsose.

My god it's 3. Fucking. Years. Away.

And we still have Lyin' Trump caterwauling.

Take a breather. Let the man be President.

I want Warren or Abrams. Harris is a distant third for me.

Jeff Weaver is a cunt and a big part of why Bernie failed. Why not just run Nina Taylor for President? The Bernie Bro momentum has run its course, people want to move back towards the center.

Ro Khanna ??

I thought I followed politics semi-closely and I've never heard this name before. What is her name recognition, ffs?

I agree w/R16 but worry about the rustbelt refusing, yet again, to consider a woman.

Where's the guy you'd have a beer with - Beto? Is Gavin Newsome a no-go? Petey?

I actually think we're just fucked. That New York bitch who ran Al Franken off should be drawn and quarterered - I think he couldda been a contenduh. Charisma is in short supply - on both sides actually but the Repugs don't give a shit who runs - anybody to own the libs. They'd vote for Giuliani or Cruz or Rand Paul. Just burn the whole thing down.

Dems can cheat with mass mail in ballot fraud this time. So it's no matter who they run.

I like him. He'd make a good President.

Thank GOD. Please nominate someone practical like Klobuchar or Ossoff. These Pelosi/Schumer/Harris/Warren types need to disappear.

R19 they already did that in 2020.

Ro Khanna is a tool. He's one of the people behind the "windfall profits tax" legislation, which already failed in the 1980s but which he and Warren want to try again?

More about Ro Khanna:

Exactly in what manner was this unproven "mail-in ballot fraud" perpetrated?

Corrupt postal workers? Corrupt election staff?

Oh, wait. It's because Raffenberger refused to find "enough" votes in Georgia for Trump!

No, wait. It's because the illegal fraudulent fictitious Trump electors were caught out!

Won’t Bernie just die….

r26 = Hilary

AOC would actually be the best candidate to deliver an Obama-esque landslide, but I don’t think she can get the black vote in the primary. It has to be someone who appeals to black voters and suburban white women to win the primary… I’m thinking Stacey Abrams best fits that Venn Diagram.

Why are people down on Kamala?

Assuming that Biden doesn't run in 2024 and that Stacey Abrams gets the nomination, then Kamala is out of the picture anyway. Khanna would be a good choice for Abram's VP.

Ro Khanna sounds like a guy from a Star Wars franchise.

[QUOTE] Thank GOD. Please nominate someone practical like Klobuchar or Ossoff.

Klobuchar is another Kamala -- can't get along with staff, etc. And Ossoff is a nobody.

R15, it STARTS a year and a half from now, not even that. The campaigning will be in full swing by June 2023. That's NEXT YEAR.

Michelle Obama could actually win, if she run.

Nobody cares about Bernie and the far leftist loons like the Squad anymore. Most sane Americans want stability and calm, which they are getting from the Biden/Harris Administration.

Harris is an unsuitable VP. She will make an even more unsuitable President.

Why do people keep mentioning Michelle Obama? She didn't want her husband to run and didn't much enjoy her second term as first lady. The Obamas are on their way to becoming Billionaires. Michelle has no interest in holding any elected office, ever. Have you been black in this country? She doesn't have Barry's tolerance or arrogance. Like Oprah, she likes her life just fine. Thanks. And no, she doesn't view your endorsement as a compliment. Sheesh. And she has no experience. Stop with the popularity contest thing. She has no stomach left to appease amuricans anymore.

Only sociopaths and/or narcissists want to be president of the United States. ONLY. Ever. You don't have to be so mentally disordered in some other countries to want to run and rule. But in the USA, yes.

Don't idealize them. Just grade them.

Warren, Klobuchar, Pete and Kamala DO come out on top. AOC will one day be great. For Canada or Denmark. Bernie could have been IT - the great change - but it's too late now.

Stability IS required. But Change is NEEDED. If they can strap Joe onto one of those things they wheeled the dying Eva Peron aroung on - he might even win another term! Dieing in office and giving Kamala 18 to 24 months to prove her considerable worth would be ideal.

[quote]Why are people down on Kamala?

The giggling, for one. It's a nervous trait, a dead giveaway that she's risen to her own level of incompetency.

Whoops! Meant CAN'T cheat r22.

Verbose much R37? All I said was she would win IF she ran. Of course she's not going to.

R13, you rang?

[quote] Verbose much?

Huh, R40. Why are you pretending to sound 14 - when you are at least seventy years old? Your juvenile mind and contemplative skills are exactly why both sides of the aisle are fucked. Americans always want more money - but most would benifit more from 10 extra IQ points. I wish you peace, R40. You say the same thing about Michelle Obama running for president on many threads. It's necessary for me to take corrective action now.

You can enjoy my post about Michelle Obama and all other matters whenever you choose to improve yourself. Others on this site can assist you also.

Don't vote for Pete. Kamala or Elizabeth would embrace you first.

There are politicians and politicians. Bernie has a tin ear when it comes to presidential and electoral politics. As a man distinctly lacking in charm himself, he doesn't see Khanna is off putting.

Bernie strength is in ideas. That's where he should be working, helping shape the agenda. ( Is he still in the democratic party?)

I neither support nor oppose Kamala. She's underwhelming. But so is Biden to me and he's doing a decent job.

However a decent job is not going to be enough i fear.

This thread is hilarious. Please stop - I'm trying to go to sleep and you are killing my sides.

Why does Kinzinger run as a Democrat? Hell, even Liz Cheney looks better than whatever Democrats have got. This dude looks like someone they would run in London.

[quote] Bernie strength is in ideas.

And not actually accomplishing anything.

[quote] Bernie strength is in ideas.

Yeah, bad ones.

[quote] Rice/Haley 2024

Who?

This is a great idea. Americans love Mo Rocca, he will win in a landslide!

It's Gavin Newsom for the win!

So Bernie is choosing as his replacement a man worth $50 million?

"Clothesline?"

Lol, good luck with that, Bernie.

Is Bernie in the dem party? I thought he was dem only during presidential campaigns

Bernie Sanders worked even harder than Vladimir Putin to get Trump elected

This guy won't open the EC to get any kind of WH win.

BS is exactly that... BS!!!

Good. Kamala is a disaster.

The "Bernie is a Russian agent" lie was literally started by Russian trolls. Of course half of DL was dumb enough to run with it.

Kamala is perfectly fine. It's interesting the hate that just springs forth from the far left and the right for any strong female candidate.

The only thing we need to be focusing on right now are the 2022 mid-terms.

Don't put the cart before the horse. Thanks.

R58 Strong? She is a giggle fest which needs to shape up or ship out.

You probably think she'll get elected like Hills.

Wake up.

As a lifelong Democrat who has watched the last 5 years with such despair and then to watch this clown car of a party the last 15 months flush all this opportunity and goodwill down the toilet. Democrats will get creamed in the midterms. And will probably lose the WH in 2024 because of two things. Messaging and going toe to toe with Republicans. We can all bitch about what horrible people they are but they get their message out and they get new demographics everyday. And we come to street fights with recycled plastic knifes. I’m so tired of these weak ass party and it’s weak ass messaging. Biden is a strong leader and we need to play to that.

Sherrod Brown should run. I just don’t know how he (or any other candidate) can elbow Kamala out of the way without hurting his image with the base, black women voters especially. There would need to be some kind of behind the scenes deal where Kamala chooses not to run. And that doesn’t even factor in getting Biden to decide not to run again…

Why do the Democrats allow him to run as one? He quits the party after each failure.

[QUOTE] Why do the Democrats allow him to run as one?

Um, because he's allowed to by law.

[quote] Sherrod Brown should run.

The guy who bears his wife and looks like he hadn’t had a shower in the years?

[quote] Sherrod Brown should run.

The guy who beats his wife and looks like he hasn’t had a shower in the years?

Sherrod Brown has no name recognition outside of heavy Democrat politics followers.

The only logical choice is Pat Leahy.

[quote]Kamala is perfectly fine.

R58 No, Harris isn't. She's what happens when jobs are based on the racism of skin color and the bigotry of chromosomes rather than abilities.

Pat Leahy is too old. But, he is wonderful.

We already have one mummy in the POTUS, R70. Why not another?

Why is Bernie always cock-blocking WOMEN? So shameful. Needs to check himself.

Bernie was spending his wedding naked in the USSR. Dude is a commie.

[quote]We can all bitch about what horrible people they are but they get their message out and they get new demographics everyday. And we come to street fights with recycled plastic knifes. I’m so tired of these weak ass party and it’s weak ass messaging.

It also helps that people are stupid, which Republicans count on more than anything else.

R73 Bernie is a grifting shyster, all talk and no action.

Under his watch, VT poverty rose and the state had one of the highest opiate OD rates in the country. Bernie can't even help his own state, apart from naming a post office after a slave owner.

So glad he and his screeching bespectacled side kick (who lost her congress race) are DONE!

r8 Sherrod Brown's voice is the problem. nobody would vote to hear it every single say. voice is an underestimated quality of candidates and often doesn't matter in politics unless its inviting it into your ears daily.

Bernie Sanders is one of the worst things to ever happen to the Democratic Party.

If they’re looking to nominate a progressive, just go with the most recognizable one: AOC. And then watch her lose in a crushing landslide.

[quote]Please nominate someone practical like Klobuchar or Ossoff. These Pelosi/Schumer/Harris/Warren types need to disappear.

Klobuchar/Ossoff would be a really strong ticket. Amy got a lot farther in the primaries than Kamala did. She’s practical, MODERATE, has a record of getting things done, and she works across the aisle in the Senate. Make Kamala Attorney General where she’s be more effective.

Have you ever heard Ro Khanna speak? It's like a chipmunk on helium.

Ro Khanna has the charisma of a clothes hanger.

why do democrat politicians all have that same dour, pulled-down look??🤣

Its over for the democrats.

What does "works across the aisle" mean? What significant bi-partisan legislation has there been in the last ten to 20 years? The days of Republicans working with Dems for the goid of the country are over.

If a halfway decent and articulate Republican emerges it’s over, indeed. The shrill and depressed have taken over the Democrats, people are vying for somebody that instills hope and optimism. Biden is too old. Boy, I miss Clinton and Obama.

The only way Biden won't run in 2024 is if he's dead. He's got a massive ego and the Dems won't dare challenge him for fear Trump'll win. The DNC fucked up totally ensuring he got the nomination in 2020. Insanity.

I know a woman who worked for Pelosi. She was a DNC insider. She told me back in March 2019 (when the Dems polling highest were 1) Biden 2) Bernie and 3) Beto) that the plan was first of all to take out Beto O'Rourke and Kamala Harris because they could block Texas and California, the big delegate counts. O'Rourke would be taken out through a concerted media campaign to trash him, harping on him being a "privileged white man" and getting all the women and black TV pundits to attack him. Kamala would be more difficult as that same media and pundits couldn't overtly trash her and look racist/sexist but her campaign would prove to be a disaster. It did. Not ready for primetime. Bernie and Warren would cancel each other out. Buttigieg had no natural constituency - Indiana's irrelevant. Nobody could take Biden out even though the DNC knew he was too damn old to be running for anything. She was right about everything.

Thinking someone else would be better for the job and endorsement of them is not the same thing as "blocking" Kamala Harris.

R87 in case you haven't noticed, the allegedly 'liberal' media would throw a massive hissy-fit if a black woman is deprived of a job. There would be hell to pay.

The thought that Biden could have stroke and Harris would take over makes me shudder.

[quote]Democratic officeholders are reluctant to speak publicly about their ambitions in a potential open race in 2024 out of concern that they could undermine the president, who has said he plans to campaign for a second term if he is in good health.

This is a huge problem with Democrats. We are in the post-Trump era. Americans have short attention spans and don't give two shits about coy politicians acting so precious. You've got to get your ass out there and let bitches know you mean business.

Republicans are campaigning YEARS before the actual elections which allows them to build huge momentum. Ron DeSantis keeps his name in a headline, all he has to do is announce his campaign and the media will hold onto his every word.

Bernie is a misogynist, someone will say.

Ro Khanna has no chance, not because he’s an Indian, but because he’s an asshole. No one in CA likes him.

[quote] The thought that Biden could have stroke and Harris would take over makes me shudder.

Why? She’d certainly do better than Trump or Bush did.

[quote] Kamala loses her TENTH staffer since June: VP's National Security Adviser Nancy McEldowney joins staff exodus after widely-criticized trip to Poland and Romania

I swear I told Kamala Ukraine was NOT part of NATO

Klobuchar and Abrams are the only two people that have real momentum, Klobuchar because she's been so visible in recent years, and Abrams because she can totally energize huge numbers people to get to the polls.

R86 Did they say anything about bringing back Hillary?

[quote]Klobuchar and Abrams are the only two people that have real momentum, Klobuchar because she's been so visible in recent years, and Abrams because she can totally energize huge numbers people to get to the polls.

Abrams should be in charge of the DNC and voter turnout then. She’s way too obese to be considered as a Presidential candidate. She would seriously need lap-band surgery before she could launch a national campaign.

R97 Obesity didn't stop Trump from becoming president.

Exactly r98.

r97 the weight even gives her more potential in my opinion. Even if she doesn't get a lap band and loses 30-40 pounds naturally in the next three years, women around America would be totally enthralled and want to know how she did it. = More votes

Because she is incompetent, R97. Plain and simple. The current situation is extremely dangerous and I want competent, cool headed, and confident leaders at the helm.

Telling you now so I don't have to tell you later--Kobluchar will raise the hackles of anyone that ever had a shrewish bitch teacher in school that liked to unjustifiably humiliate students in front of others for minor errors.

She had that same energy throughout her debate appearances.

r101 I like Klobuchar but she always had a very nervous and manic energy during the debates. Especially that one time when her hair kept vibrating.

[quote]Elizabeth Warren will not be undone by that native remark. STOP repeating it. Nobody cares about it but Donald Trump.

Wrong. I care about it and I've been voting for Democrats since 1981 is every election. Warren is a tone deaf former Reaganite and a liar, by the way.

She let Harvard tout her a "women of color hire" when she was still a Republican. How do you think that will go over to black women who are the most reliable base of the Democratic Party?

She's a total nutjob.

You're old and nuts R101. And you hate women.

R104 no, I hate wicked bitches who humiliate people.

Kobluchar was rumoured to throw things and berate her staff as well.

You're rumored to be insane R105. And in love with Pete Buttigeiger. He hovers his ass over world problems and then you eat out the answer. Yikes.

I'd rather eat salad with a comb.

R106, I can't stand CIA butt-gig.

But do keep sharing your demented sex fantasies while the adults talk politics.

[quote]It also helps that people are stupid, which Republicans count on

R74's arrogant assumption - we know betterism - is repulsive and damaging.

Completely off topic but . . .

Sanders' adviser Mark Longabaugh. Since the family name is uncommon, wonder if he's any relation to Harry Longabaugh, aka the Sundance Kid.

What about a Sherrod/Ro ticket? Or will we be in hot water for having no femme on the ticket?

[quote] Or will we be in hot water for having no femme on the ticket?

Absolutely not! Voters with more than one functioning brain cell will realize that the Dems are interested in suitable leadership and direction, rather than empty political correctness.

I am not clear on why Kamala was not chosen for the Breyer replacement on SCOTUS. It is the perfect opportunity to gracefully move her out of the VP role.

OP....That guy looks like a wimpy Democrat....yawn....It's like we are begging Trump to move back to the White House in 2024. And HE AIN'T LEAVING next time. He will have his GOP Congressional Cult change the Constitution so he can stay as long as he feels like it. Wait and See..Future Idiot GOP Senator Josh Mandel is going around talking about term limits. Wait until his King wins in 2024 and Senator Josh is going to walk that back real quick.

Klobuchar has momentum. Biden should have named her VP but he got pushed around by Clyburn who is a nobody. Klobuchar should push Schumer out as Majority Leader. He's such a useless, ball-less POS.

Abrams is way too goofy. Pulling that Star Trek shit was ridiculous. She'll need to win the Governorship of Georgia massively to even stay in competition. Her ego is massive and the talent attributed to her for organizing actually belongs to Lauren Groh the woman who ran her campaign. Abrams has only ever been elected as a state legislator which is a part-time job in Georgia.

Klobuchar is a bitch and she has exposed that quality often oh

[quote]Klobuchar is a bitch

Bitches get things done.

Biden will run again.

Who the hell thinks anyone would vote for Kamala?

Democrats are insane if they run her as a candidate, but then, the Dems often make choices that hamstring their own party.

Wonder why, hmmmmmmm.

Klobuchar's been a very successful Senator unlike Harris who in her short stint, did jack shit. Klobuchar also can manipulate and attack Republicans head-on. They're scared of her. She's a bitch we want on our side.

Bernie was just another male chauvinist pig in the movements of the time. Raging misogyny in the leadership ranks of the civil rights movement. the peace movement and the environmental movement.

Same as it ever was.

Because she's a complete idiot r112.

R120 needs attention and his medicine.

I don’t know what is happening with Kamala, but she has become a joke in the last two yrs. I did not see that coming. I thought she was great. There is no possible way she could lead if Biden died. It is a very scary situation now.

Everytime I glance at this, I think it says "Beanie Working to Block Kamala."

[quote]AOC would actually be the best candidate to deliver an Obama-esque landslide...

Nuttiest post so far in a thread full of nutty posts!

AOC spent 19 million to win re-election in a D+28 district where shockingly few bothered to vote for her (she still won). The enthusiasm for her is in her media fandom, not the voters.

I (from Colorado/Utah) voted for Klobuchar in the primary. She’s a feisty Midwestern moderate and the Dems so need that. Enough with the coastal “elites.” Kamala needs to bow out using some excuse like wanting to be a circuit court judge.

AOC will only qualify by age 22 days before election day 2024, regardless of how you feel about her, I don't see America voting in someone that young as President. Young people don't vote in the numbers that old people vote and old people aren't going to vote for her at that age.

To me the most important thing is winning and while I would gladly vote for a qualified minority or woman, I am not sure America would. There are several attractive, and lets face it an ugly person is at a disadvantage, white men who could possibly win. Senator Chris Murphy (Connecticut), Senator Brian Schatz (Hawaii), Senator Martin Heinrich (New Mexico), Senator Bob Casey Jr. (Pennsylvania), Senator Mark Warner (Virginia), Congressman Jason Crow (Colorado), Congressman Jim Himes, (Connecticut) born in the country of Peru but to American Parents, are just a few that come to mind. Running someone who won't win doesn't interest me and won't help minorities or women either.

I like Katie Porter. She has a big mouth & can really get in people’s faces. I think that’s a good thing, Her voice isn’t haranguing like Hillary’s. She’s not an annoying performative grandstander like Corey Booker. She sticks to topics like jobs, schools, graft, asshole bankers. People liked Trumpfir getting in faces with for his big mouth. Problem is theu mistook him for a populist who actually cares about the population. Katie Porter really does care.

But she might be gay and that would be red meat for the Fox News evangelicals. I know she was married to a man and has kids but it almost seems like they got married to have kids then divorced so she could call herself a “single mom” to further her political career. Lots of gay people marry heterosexuals and lots of lavender marriages still take place. If she is gay the narrative would immediately be switched over to trans by GOP and that would sink her candidacy. And she is funny looking. That’s never been a problem for a male candidate (Nixon & LBJ, yikes), but of course there’s a double standard.

R122, I am sure you weren't there and know nothing about those days. Go back to your sandbox. And stay stupid.

Chris Murphy might not do it because he has young kids. Being a Senator and President is two different things.

Agree with r126. Midwest & Southern Dems are so different from the elitist West coast Dems, especially ones in red states. They really have to work to overcome the toxic Repubs.

Katie Porter is from the Midwest, so she shares a lot of those traits. I would like to see her as Speaker one day.

[quote]I (from Colorado/Utah) voted for Klobuchar in the primary. She’s a feisty Midwestern moderate and the Dems so need that. Enough with the coastal “elites.”

The candidate needs to be Midwestern or Southern. No more toxic New York and California politicians in nationwide elections.

R129 I think Katie's problem with not having a second husband is she isn't attractive and straight men wouldn't want to hook up with some unattractive woman who has a bunch of kids. And who is obviously bossy as hell.

The Governor of Kentucky - a moderate Democrat who managed to get elected in a deep-red state, is I think definitely in the running. Two Southern Governors - Clinton and Carter spring to mind. Beshear is also good-looking. Amy Klobuchar's also a good bet. It's true the majority of the country does not live in California or the Northeast and Democrats' obsession with excluding them is self-defeating.

Let's see AOC get elected statewide in a blue state before she can even dream of getting the nomination. Same goes for Pete Buttigieg. He and Chasten can move to Maryland and run from there.

I live in NYC, never voting AOC for Senate.

Most people out of the Bronx don’t like her…

Katie Porter is a crypto-Justice Dem.

She should know better, but doesn't.

Democrats need a Midwestern or Southerner as their candidate. Someone who would appeal to the suburbs and not scare off independents. Of course the activists in the party would never support that kind of candidate. Dems are screwed since activists turn out to vote in primaries.

[quote] Dems are screwed since activists turn out to vote in primaries.

Do they? I thought they mostly turned up at caucuses to pound their shoes on the table, shout everyone else down and generally bully their way to achieve what they can't at the voting booth.

R138 same with both Dems and GOP: the most extremist elements run the primaries.