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I was permanently banned from Reddit for “hate speech” for posting the following:

Title of my post: “The LGBT community has completely lost its fucking mind”

I am a gay man and I am appalled at the freakshow that the LGBT community has become. For years, the main focus was on gay and lesbian rights and marriage quality. After marriage equality passed, the focus shifted towards trans people.

Now, that in itself isn’t necessarily a bad thing. There are a lot of trans women that are victims of violence and they do need our help and support. The problem is that this fundamental shift of the community towards gender identity opened Pandora’s Box and suddenly every attention seeking freak wanted LGBT membership.

There is sex, and there is gender. Sex is biological, and you are either male or female, unless you are intersex. Gender, on the other hand, is a social construct, such as how girls should behave and how boys should behave. Human beings are not sexually attracted to gender, they are sexually attracted to sex. This idea of these new sexual orientations, like “pansexual,” meaning that you are attracted to anyone regardless of their sex or gender identity is, ridiculous. The truth is that since there is only male and female sex, “gay,“ “lesbian,“ and “bisexual“ covers everything.

Let’s be honest. If you’re a biological male, getting a hideous perm, putting on makeup, and wearing a dress does not change your gender. And since gender is just a social construct that doesn’t really exist anyway, inventing a new one means absolutely nothing. But don’t tell that to all these edgy teens and 20 somethings, and definitely don’t tell that to the mainstream current LGBT community because you will be branded a bigot.

I myself am a liberal, and I always have been, but the current incarnation of the LGBT community has become so absurdly far left that they will except absolutely any amount of nonsense flung at them. The truth is that there are quite a few gay men and lesbians who feel this way, but they are afraid to say it out loud.

And let’s be completely honest here. “Nonbinary” as a gender label is stupid. Every human being on earth is nonbinary. No one fits perfectly into a “male” or “female” gender conforming box. There are only biological males and biological females, and within those two categories there is a broad range of mannerisms, personalities, etc.

There is a new “queer“ identity, which is basically an umbrella term for the entire LGBT community and is really just for people who want to be edgy. I’m angry because all of this nonsense with the pronouns and the 500 gender identities is incredibly obnoxious, and the fact that these people are associating themselves with the gay community means that normal people are going to start thinking that we’re all one and the same. And we’re not. For those of you straight people reading this, please understand that gay men are not the same as the pronoun genderqueer people. We are not that high maintenance.

by Anonymousreply 72March 19, 2022 8:18 PM

What subreddit? The You can't question the choo choo people on Reddit. Most of the power mods are trannies.

The only place that allows any push back on trans is askgaybros and tumblrinaction and I'm amazed they haven't been banned.

by Anonymousreply 1March 18, 2022 8:03 PM

" so absurdly far left "

I would say "extreme" to cover all axes.

"normal people are going to start thinking that we’re all one and the same"

I'm not normal in OP's opinion, I guess. I leave it to minority individuals to personally and independently guide me to their level of social adequacy, and ignore the poseurs and signalers that would speak for the minority individuals because that's their performative billyclub.

by Anonymousreply 2March 18, 2022 8:06 PM

Let’s pray for him, Anita.

by Anonymousreply 3March 18, 2022 8:07 PM

Note to OP: commoditized, commercialized social media that can be gamed by upvotes, downvotes, and reports are never guaranteed avenues of free speech.

by Anonymousreply 4March 18, 2022 8:08 PM

I agree with you OP. But I wish we would leave Reddit over there and not drag things from other websites to our pure Datalounge.

by Anonymousreply 5March 18, 2022 8:09 PM

Don't use Reddit and don't know their banning standards, but the issue you might be having isn't in your base argument. That's fairly strong and well thought out.

It's in the emotional aspects that surround your claim. Using terms like "hideous perm" indicates your issue is personal, not logical. It doesn't serve your thesis and it exposes you as clearly judgmental and possibly bigoted.

If we're going to win the "gender" war, we need to be calm. To the point. No ad hominem attacks. It pulls focus away from the main issue.

by Anonymousreply 6March 18, 2022 8:14 PM
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by Anonymousreply 7March 18, 2022 8:15 PM

Fag!

by Anonymousreply 8March 18, 2022 8:15 PM

Really well said (yes, except for the usage of "normal" towards the end, but we know what you mean).

I don't know if we can compare us super-liberals to the people claiming to be super-ultra-liberals. Yes, they say always believe women and people are whatever gender or sex they say they are, but that's not really being liberal, it's being silly. I consider myself a very strong feminist, and I think that the people who are so pro trans are not nearly as liberal as I am regarding feminism.

To mess things up, yes, you can have whatever surgery you can afford, like Bella Hadid. But that's not really who you are genetically. She won't pass that nose and those cheeks on to her children.

by Anonymousreply 9March 18, 2022 8:17 PM

R9 Maybe she prefers abortion over children anywayz?

by Anonymousreply 10March 18, 2022 8:19 PM

R6 Relax a bit, hideois perm sounds funny to me. You don't have to be so uptight about things.

by Anonymousreply 11March 18, 2022 8:29 PM

R9 I agree that my use of the word “normal“ was a bit of a stumble. What I meant to convey by saying that is that most gays and lesbians are just normal people that live normal lives, like everyone else. Most of us are not like the narcissistic turds you see on social media dying for attention by acting over the top, or celebrities like Harry Styles and Lil Nas X who try to get attention by wearing dresses and being as ridiculous as possible.

by Anonymousreply 12March 18, 2022 8:29 PM

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I’m the fastest tortoise!!

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by Anonymousreply 13March 18, 2022 8:29 PM

I also got banned permanently on a reddit forum for posting a "islampobic" comment.

by Anonymousreply 14March 18, 2022 8:30 PM

I agree with your points, OP. Using the term “freak show” probably wasn’t wisest as it would immediately get backed up though. But it’s not a topic you can freely discuss on Reddit. I got banned from r/entertainment for contradicting the circle jerk of hatred and bile everyone was directing at Jk Rowling for…well, standing up for women’s rights. I simply said “I don’t believe JK Rowling said anything wrong” and I got a lifetime ban. Dissenting opinions are not allowed.

by Anonymousreply 15March 18, 2022 8:39 PM

Get *backs up.

by Anonymousreply 16March 18, 2022 8:39 PM

Lots of trans moderators on Reddit, OP.

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by Anonymousreply 17March 18, 2022 8:42 PM

R17 Isn’t that Wendy the Retard from Howard Stern?

by Anonymousreply 18March 18, 2022 9:43 PM

R15 maybe I’m wrong, but I was under the impression that there are “real“ transgender people and then there are the fakes, like the nonbinary crowd, or the “transtrenders.” And based on what I’ve seen on Reddit, it seems like the transgender crowd resents the non-binary crowd, and trans people see all of the ridiculous gender identities a neopronouns as turning them into a joke. Is that correct?

by Anonymousreply 19March 18, 2022 10:10 PM

OP you're a fucking fool for wasting your time obsessing over trans people. Right now they're living their lives and not thinking about YOU. Get a goddamn hobby.

by Anonymousreply 20March 18, 2022 10:14 PM

[quote]I wish we would leave Reddit over there and not drag things from other websites to our pure Datalounge.

You delusional worms crack me the fuck up.

by Anonymousreply 21March 18, 2022 10:18 PM

How would Reddit know it's you if you created a new user account? I never understood how that works.

by Anonymousreply 22March 18, 2022 10:23 PM

R22 Good question. They would definitely know if you used the same email address. But I don’t know if they can track your IP address.

by Anonymousreply 23March 18, 2022 10:25 PM

So why, really, did you post your REDDIT-ban-worthy manifesto here, OP? To prove there are extremists here at the DL compared to whom you appear reasonable?

You are mostly reasonable, yes, but your exaggerated metaphors and peekaboo opinions are sharp for some audiences who feel AAAAAATAAAAACKED by anything challenging their daily unquestioned discovery of who they are by sifting through what they do not want to be and then achieving the ideal they know is THEM.

My approach is to smile and nod at the expanding LGBTQ∞ DNA chain as a too-large-to-be-effective political bloc with a surplus of egotism. Unity doesn't usually come to enterprises that spends its time further subdividing into discrete factions.

And then I remind myself that I identify and am comfortably embodied as a gay man, which is how I live in the world. And I don't tolerate anyone fucking with my rights, whether from outside or inside my inferred collective.

by Anonymousreply 24March 18, 2022 10:41 PM

r24

by Anonymousreply 25March 18, 2022 10:42 PM

OP is a Log Cabinette troll. Gay Republicans like you are the ones who've lost your damn mind

by Anonymousreply 26March 18, 2022 10:43 PM

R26 Here we go once again. Anyone who isn’t a super far-left woke moronic dipshit is a Republican. In your world there are no moderate liberals.

by Anonymousreply 27March 18, 2022 10:54 PM

You don't have to be a Republican or a troll to see things the way OP does. Go ahead, call me a Republican troll now, idiots.

by Anonymousreply 28March 18, 2022 11:05 PM

OP, did you ask to speak to a manager?

by Anonymousreply 29March 18, 2022 11:08 PM

A lot of that trans mob afflicting us are people you would not have encountered a few years ago, fetichists, deviants, straight men wearing panties and now they are being normalised. In my book they are still perverts with a fetish. All this gender crap is just a new religion, not based on any reality

by Anonymousreply 30March 18, 2022 11:22 PM

The other day I posted on Facebook a picture I had taken of a dinosaur skeleton I saw at the Field Museum in Chicago and tagged a friend, saying, “You’re my main dinosaur guy and this is your kind of place!”

He said in response that he’s “ALWAYS” wanted to go to the museum and he’ll be happy to be my “dinosaur person” but not my “dinosaur guy” because he’s non-binary.

I find this so fucking irritating. When he/she/they approaches public restrooms identified as “Men” and, separately, “Women’,” does he/she/they refuse to piss in both of them, stride into the one labeled “Women,” or sulk and go into the one labeled “Men?” Do I care? Not literally. He/she/they can hold on until he/she/they finds an all-gender room or wet his/her/their pants for all I care. I just — I don’t even know — it seems like a monstrous sort of egoism to elevate your own personal neuroses to the level of requiring everyone you know to memorize and dance around them so as not to wound your delicate sensibility.

Now, if he’d/she’d/they’d cut his/her/their dick off and display some cleavage I’d at least have to acknowledge his/her/their commitment. But liking to wear dresses and have tea, which I know she/he/they does, and out of that feel entitled to direct the manner in which he/she/they will permit me to address him/her/them? I’m not sure her/his/their friendship is worth that much to me/we/us!

by Anonymousreply 31March 18, 2022 11:24 PM

I miss that show

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by Anonymousreply 32March 18, 2022 11:31 PM

Who would have thought it was going to be the future 😂

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by Anonymousreply 33March 18, 2022 11:34 PM

I know right dude. I was banned for calling out women, calling out the gheys, for calling out, for calling out, for calling out... some kind of trigger.

by Anonymousreply 34March 18, 2022 11:34 PM

seriously, I was part of the various subreds that called out everybody but y'all were whiny little bitches back then, "errmagaad, that's wrong, that's bad, that's alt right. errrmagaaad" because we laughed about that crazy shit. Now all of you get banned for one little hate whatever the fuck that is... and you humourless dregs of karen society takeover every "free" place to bitch about your one cause day and night, everyday, and oblivious as to why everyone hates you. . . and convinced it's all a trans conspiracy! you asked for cream in your coffee and that he/she gave you HALF AND HALF! the trans are taking over. yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the only reason everyone hates you - the conspiracy.

by Anonymousreply 35March 18, 2022 11:41 PM

You seem extremely desperate for attention here, so now doubt Reddit got sick of it. And Reddit allows pretty much anything. At some point, OP, you have to do some self reflection. Start with, "I wonder what makes me so low and desperate that I will post 20 threads on an anonymous board, waiting, refreshing, anything for attention."

You WW yourself over and over here. I wonder if you'd consider a hobby offline?

by Anonymousreply 36March 18, 2022 11:44 PM

All reddit mods are trancel basement dwellers. Didn't you see the interview with the mod from antiwork, Doreen? I was banned from the men's lib subreddit for commenting on how many of their posts were devoted to vaginas.

by Anonymousreply 37March 18, 2022 11:55 PM

You definitely deserve to be banned and humiliated. I can't believe a liberal gay man can be as narrow-minded as a redneck from middle of nowhere. As long as something is not your problem, it does not exist. With this mindset, you are introducing discrimination to the people of your own kind.

by Anonymousreply 38March 18, 2022 11:55 PM

I suppose that R38 thinks it’s cool to invent new identities and then be victimized by those identities. People can now invent a new gender and then be a victim based on said nonexistent gender. I’m sure all of this nonbinary stuff is real, eh? The second that Asia Kate Dillon and Demi Lovato declared themselves nonbinary, their vaginas disappeared.

by Anonymousreply 39March 19, 2022 12:01 AM

I very much agree with r38. Using the same conservative bullshit (us vs. them / superior vs. inferior) rhetoric that is still being used against us gays? Any actual gay man would know better than to side with the bigots. Log Cabin Republicans don't count. They are pathetic.

by Anonymousreply 40March 19, 2022 12:02 AM

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by Anonymousreply 41March 19, 2022 12:03 AM

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by Anonymousreply 42March 19, 2022 12:12 AM

Let me break this down for you, R40.

Black people/Asian people/Latino people = real

Gay people = real

Men and Women = real

Nonbinary = NOT real

by Anonymousreply 43March 19, 2022 12:19 AM

OMG OP SHUT UP.

I wish we could permanently ban you from here.

by Anonymousreply 44March 19, 2022 12:24 AM

"You don't have to be a Republican or a troll to see things the way OP does. Go ahead, call me a Republican troll now, idiots."

You are a REpublican troll now, you idiot.

Happy?

Meanwhile:

"Let me break this down for you, [R40].

Black people/Asian people/Latino people = real

Gay people = real

Men and Women = real

Nonbinary = NOT real"

Just because you're losing your grip on reality doesn't mean your opinion is valid.

And you're using the exact same logic homophobes have used for years, i.e., gay isn't real because it's a choice.

You're obviously a sad little narcissist. If it's not your experience, then it isn't real.

How bigoted of you.

Ron DeSantis would be proud. Except, you know, if you're gay you're not allowed to be mentioned.

by Anonymousreply 45March 19, 2022 12:27 AM

R45 If nonbinary was real, don’t you think we would have heard about it before 2015?

by Anonymousreply 46March 19, 2022 12:31 AM

Sounds to me like that moderator who banned you didn't bother reading more than a line or two of your thoughts. They should be required, by personal ethics if not by Reddit policy, to read everything written prior to judgement or banning anyone.

I hate to point fingers, cos I know the trouble I might be courting, but it must be said. The moderator acts like a teen, and perhaps is a teen. Overly emotional. So sure that older people are slow & hateful. Too scatter-brained to read. Frequently post TLDR in their posts. Transgender/transsexuality is irrelevant if the mod is "youthful." Impatient, arrogant, intolerant teenagers.

by Anonymousreply 47March 19, 2022 12:32 AM

If you say anything against The TQ+ you get banned from Reddit. Gender critical had a big forum of about 7000 women and Reddit banned the whole forum but the trans forum can get away with all kinds of nasty shit. I believe OP. On Reddit, it doesn't matter how fact-based your argument is, they will ban you.

by Anonymousreply 48March 19, 2022 12:35 AM

If you are actually a gay man you sound awfully pathetic and insecure, OP.

by Anonymousreply 49March 19, 2022 12:41 AM

R7, Blaire White is revolting, he's one of the more embarrassing trans out there.

by Anonymousreply 50March 19, 2022 12:44 AM

R39, You do realise nobody actually takes demi lovato seriously not even the people who call themselves nonbinary?

by Anonymousreply 51March 19, 2022 12:52 AM

I believe a lot of them are teens. They are spoiled arrogant little bullies that think pushing people around gives them power. Their parents did a piss-poor job of raising them.

by Anonymousreply 52March 19, 2022 12:52 AM

The only reason one goes to Reddit is to be banned.

by Anonymousreply 53March 19, 2022 12:53 AM

I was banned from the politics sub for saying biological men were stronger than biological women and that perhaps trans people need to do what women had to do, fight for their own sports leagues and gyms. I was told it was hate speech.

by Anonymousreply 54March 19, 2022 12:57 AM

You never know who will power mod trip you on reddit, after all Muriel ain’t there. My advice is just stick to the dick,ass, twink, BBC, BWC, married men, whatever floats your sexual boat subreddits and keep your opinions to yourself or just create your own sub reddit with your own rules and power trip on others.

by Anonymousreply 55March 19, 2022 12:57 AM

R41, There are plenty of anti trans youtube and twitter accounts that have not been "censored" so you're just flat out lying. "They are only a fraction of the population they don't count" you know who says that about gay people as well....

by Anonymousreply 56March 19, 2022 1:00 AM

"If you don't like gay marriage, don't get one," they lied; only a short time passed before they forced the cake maker to bake their cake under penalty of law.

by Anonymousreply 57March 19, 2022 1:02 AM

It doesn't help R55. No matter what kind of forum you are on they will invade. one lady I know was complaining they infiltrated their sewing group and started a bunch of shit. People are complaining they are invading everywhere.

by Anonymousreply 58March 19, 2022 1:04 AM

Reading this shit was fucking tedious! You deserve a lifetime ban on breathing for this pile of never ending word vomit.

by Anonymousreply 59March 19, 2022 1:04 AM

It's kind of hilarious that OP is so obsessed with Trans and yet lacks the self awareness, presenting himself as one of the worst kind of person on social media: Attention whorish "Look at me! LOOK AT MEEEEEE! I'm being victimized!" Drama Queen.

A mean, delusional Heather who never matured.

by Anonymousreply 60March 19, 2022 1:06 AM

R57, I see defacturd is back again and twice as ugly.

by Anonymousreply 61March 19, 2022 1:06 AM

[quote]Gay people still have to put up with being called a fag and other insulting things online and in the real world, and discrimination and homophobia is still extremely rampant; and many countries still have homosexuality criminalised and will kill you for being gay.

So what are you doing for those gay people, R41? Are you actually making their lives better or are you just sat here whining endlessly about trans?

by Anonymousreply 62March 19, 2022 1:13 AM

Trans are invading gay spaces all the time. They want to use us as cloaks so they can teach kids they are in the wrong body and need drugs and surgery if they question sex stereotypes.

They can't do anything on their own because their philosophy, that you are possibly "in the wrong body", is stupid, and everyone knows it.

Gender non-conforming kids are now automatically trans, not LGB, and they require a lifetime of pharmaceuticals.

Don't want teachers to talk to your kindergartners about sexuality while keeping it secret from parents? That's "Don't say gay" - no, that's a terrible idea and everyone sane knows it.

Troons are either delusional or have a sexual fetish, almost all of them are neurotic straight people, and troonery is the new conversion therapy for gay teenagers. I've had enough of them and their insanity as have most people. There is so much money and media censorship around the topic, it's genuinely dystopian.

Enough! Stop trying to trans away the gay, get the fuck out of women's sports and private spaces, stop trying to shame gay men into liking pussy and lesbians into liking dick. You crazy troons and troon apologists are fucking seen.

by Anonymousreply 63March 19, 2022 1:26 AM

R63, I’ve lived on 3 different continents, in 5 different countries, and countless cities. I’ve only met one trans person in my entire life through work, and that was back in 1996.

How the fuck do you trans obsessed lunatics meet thousands of trans people who are trying to erase you and take your rights away, when most of you live in Bumfuck, AL?

by Anonymousreply 64March 19, 2022 1:44 AM

OP You summed up excellently the nonsense and non thing that non binary is. It really is a distinction without a difference.

by Anonymousreply 65March 19, 2022 5:59 AM

R64, at some point in the last decade the definition of 'trans' expanded from transsexual (typically an effeminate male afflicted with gender dysphoria who is sexually attracted to other men) to include cross-dressers and male fetishists who identify as 'lesbians'. The latter group are frequently misogynists and incels-- they are porn-addled heterosexual men who have latched on to the trans identity as a way of getting sexual access to women who have heretofore been off-limits to them. They have nothing whatsoever to do with gay men or lesbians and do not belong in gay spaces, yet they are some of the loudest and most obnoxious advocates for 'trans rights'-- which when you see it is really a men's rights movement.

by Anonymousreply 66March 19, 2022 6:17 AM

God forbid we aren't all 'respectable gays' wearing suits, getting jobs in the financial district, and watching football on the weekends after church with our families...

by Anonymousreply 67March 19, 2022 7:56 AM

R57 Defacto, I am happy to see you are back but I didn't quite understand what you said?

by Anonymousreply 68March 19, 2022 4:59 PM

R68 thank you, dear. It’s kind of you to welcome me back.

Basically, I’m saying that the argument advanced by advocates of same sex marriage was that it was nobody else’s business if gays chose to get married, and straight peoples’ lives wouldn’t change at all. That has turned out to be a demonstrable lie, and an example is the Masterpiece Baker court case where someone did not want to perform services for a gay wedding and was fined and sued for discrimination.

by Anonymousreply 69March 19, 2022 7:57 PM

[quote] Trans are invading gay spaces

What are "gay spaces"?

[quote] That has turned out to be a demonstrable lie, and an example is the Masterpiece Baker court case where someone did not want to perform services for a gay wedding and was fined and sued for discrimination.

Horseshit. Regardless of whether gay marriage was legal, that baker has to provide services to everyone. Legalizing gay marriage didn't change non-discrimination laws.

by Anonymousreply 70March 19, 2022 8:10 PM

R70 the issue was not whether or not he would serve them. He was happy to sell them a cake. What he refused to do was create a custom cake for them. Compelling him to use his creative services toward a gay wedding is indeed compelled speech in favor of gay marriage.

by Anonymousreply 71March 19, 2022 8:12 PM

AAANNNNDDDDD...legalizing gay marriage changed nothing in that regard. Your thesis was that legalizing gay marriage had an impact on people who do not support it. But your cake maker would have to non-discriminatorily produce cakes before and after the legalization of gay marriage. Just as the cake maker cannot make cakes for Catholics, but not Protestants, the cake maker cannot make cakes for straights but not gays. And this was true before and after the legalization of gay marriage.

by Anonymousreply 72March 19, 2022 8:18 PM
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