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In nod to Russia, Ukraine says no longer insisting on NATO membership

President Volodymyr Zelensky said he is no longer pressing for NATO membership for Ukraine, a delicate issue that was one of Russia's stated reasons for invading its pro-Western neighbor.

In another apparent nod aimed at placating Moscow, Zelensky said he is open to "compromise" on the status of two breakaway pro-Russian territories that President Vladimir Putin recognized as independent just before unleashing the invasion on February 24.

"I have cooled down regarding this question a long time ago after we understood that ... NATO is not prepared to accept Ukraine," Zelensky said in an interview aired Monday night on ABC News.

"The alliance is afraid of controversial things, and confrontation with Russia," the president added.

Referring to NATO membership, Zelensky said through an interpreter that he does not want to be president of a "country which is begging something on its knees."

Russia has said it does not want neighboring Ukraine to join NATO, the transatlantic alliance created at the start of the Cold War to protect Europe from the Soviet Union.

In more recent years the alliance has expanded further and further east to take in former Soviet bloc countries, infuriating the Kremlin.

Russia sees NATO enlargement as a threat, as it does the military posture of these new Western allies on its doorstep.

Shortly before he shocked the world by ordering the invasion of Ukraine, Putin recognized as independent two separatist pro-Russian "republics" in eastern Ukraine -- Donetsk and Lugansk -- that have been at war with Kyiv since 2014.

Putin now wants Ukraine, too, to recognize them as sovereign and independent.

When ABC asked him about this Russian demand, Zelensky said he was open to dialogue.

"I'm talking about security guarantees," he said.

He said these two regions "have not been recognized by anyone but Russia, these pseudo republics. But we can discuss and find the compromise on how these territories will live on."

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More I think than just a nod.

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by Anonymousreply 16March 14, 2022 3:49 AM

In other words, Russia is winning.

by Anonymousreply 1March 14, 2022 12:05 AM

If the US would have brokered that from the beginning maybe all of this shit could have been avoided.

by Anonymousreply 2March 14, 2022 12:06 AM

From The Guardian:

"Many predicted Nato expansion would lead to war. Those warnings were ignored"

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by Anonymousreply 3March 14, 2022 12:08 AM

I am not convinced that Zelenaksy is not a puppet for the US and Israel.

I wonder how the ukranian public really feels.

by Anonymousreply 4March 14, 2022 12:11 AM

Oh the troll stench in this thread —so pungent. Like hot wet garbage.

by Anonymousreply 5March 14, 2022 12:12 AM

6,000-10,000 dead soldiers, $5 billion in lost equipment, the loss of Nord Stream and EU markets, the sanctions against your elites. That’s hardly “winning” r1.

Even after Russia invaded Donbas and Crimea, at most, 56% of Ukrainians supported joining NATO. Ascension to the EU is far more important to Ukraine. Russia didn’t want that, either.

by Anonymousreply 6March 14, 2022 12:17 AM

If Zelensky doesn't compromise Ukraine will be destroyed completely. It makes since that he'd give up Nato and keep on pursuing EU membership, which, if it comes, will be years from now. The real question is whether Putin is sane enough to negotiate. The articles I've been reading say that Russia's diplomats are making signs that they are ready to make a deal, but Putin himself is not.

by Anonymousreply 7March 14, 2022 12:20 AM

Russia will win the battle but lose the war. It's inevitable. Ukraine was unlikely to defeat Russia militarily (although every hoped it could), but sanctions and resistance fighters will if they don't reach a peace settlement.

by Anonymousreply 8March 14, 2022 12:25 AM

R8 quote: Russia will win the battle but lose the war. This is exactly what will happen. The only thing Russia will win in the end is the scorn and distrust of the world.

by Anonymousreply 9March 14, 2022 12:30 AM

R5, what you’re smelling is the fetid stench of rancid cunts ovulating at the thought of a Russian ‘victory’ in Ukraine, which they assume will mean the end of the Biden presidency and the Democrats in general. Because of course Putin’s war is all about domestic politics in the States.

by Anonymousreply 10March 14, 2022 12:32 AM

Russia has already won because its sole goal was to stop Ukraine joining Nato. Putin doesn't want Ukraine to join the EU either but is less worried about that and his war has just set that prospect back by another 20 years on top of the 20 years it already required.

Putin and many Russians don't care about the sanctions either. They would welcome a new Cold War with the west and there are plenty of other customers.

by Anonymousreply 11March 14, 2022 12:36 AM

Ukrainians would choose Russia over nato.

by Anonymousreply 12March 14, 2022 12:38 AM

R11- Putin threatened nuclear war. He is now an unacceptable worldwide threat. That threat must be neutralized , period. He had to have known this which once again makes me question his mental stability.

by Anonymousreply 13March 14, 2022 12:45 AM

Putin has publicly humiliated Russia and exposed its lack military might in less than 72 hours that can hardly be called a win in anyones book.

Russia is broke and now China’s bitch, but I guess Ukraine was worth it in his deluded mind.

by Anonymousreply 14March 14, 2022 12:54 AM

"Ukraine will be destroyed completely"

I wonder how much it will cost Russia to rebuild the wartorn country? Maybe China will loan them the money?

by Anonymousreply 15March 14, 2022 1:52 AM

Estimates today were $100 billion r15. More than enough in frozen Russian assets to cover that, plus reparations to individuals.

by Anonymousreply 16March 14, 2022 3:49 AM
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