Let's Discuss The Golden Girls

Did you search PornHub, Rose?

Why?

There is an incident in 1959 where hikers disappeared in the Russian Ural Mountains that we should also discuss. Have any of you heard of it?

What movie did they do dirty dancing in?

R3 No??? Please explain!

Go empty my piss bucket!

The Golden Girls is an American sitcom created by Susan Harris that aired on NBC from September 14, 1985, to May 9, 1992, with a total of 180 half-hour episodes, spanning seven seasons. With an ensemble cast starring Bea Arthur, Betty White, Rue McClanahan, and Estelle Getty, the show is about four older women who share a home in Miami, Florida. It was produced by Witt/Thomas/Harris Productions, in association with Touchstone Television. Paul Junger Witt, Tony Thomas, and Harris served as the original executive producers.

The Golden Girls received critical acclaim throughout most of its run, and won several awards, including the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Comedy Series twice. It also won three Golden Globe Awards for Best Television Series – Musical or Comedy. Each of the four stars received an Emmy Award, making it one of only four sitcoms in the award's history to achieve this. The series also ranked among the Nielsen ratings' top ten for six of its seven seasons. In 2013, TV Guide ranked The Golden Girls number 54 on its list of the 60 Best Series of All Time.In 2014, the Writers Guild of America placed the sitcom at number 69 in their list of the "101 Best Written TV Series of All Time". Terry Tang of the Associated Press reported that the series continues to attract new fans in the 21st century and characterized it as an example of a sitcom that has aged well.

They are much better if you watch them in the dubbed German version.

I love Golden Girls. It's one of my go-to's when I want to remember my Mom. We used to watch it together, and she would laugh out loud at all of it. I would enjoy the show but moreso enjoyed watching her watch the show. She related so much to those old broads.

Rest in Peace, Mumzie.

Helen, don't try to use the internet yourself. Get Teacher to help you

It introduced me to cheesecake.

How unique!

A thread on Golden Girls! Why thank you, OP.

We so rarely discuss this show. It's an unappreciated gen that DataLoungers should discover more often.

I’m Dorothy Zbornak and Rose Nylund hybrid

R12, so you’re stupid and rude?

Rue McClanahan was originally supposed to play Rose.

You don't say, R14. I have ever heard this before. I also wonder: was the lady who played Sophia really the oldest?

R14 You tried so hard.

R15 I think she was also the actress that played Granny Clampett.

OP, Welcome to DataLounge!

Glad you found your way here and hope you enjoy your very first day here.

Here's a tidbit most of you likely don't know:

There was a houseboy named Coco in the pilot episode, but they dropped him once the show went to series.

There are literally ten Golden Girls threads started just this year. I'll play along with OP, though, as I love the show and don't mind.

It amuses me that Rue in season one was like 52 and I don't know any woman in their early 50s now that look like she did then

R15 You want to be funny, we can tell, but maybe humor isn't your thing. Sometimes sarcastic humor is only funny to the poor soul attempting it. Crawl back away, dear. There are oreos in that pantry - get busy!

R20 "There are literally ten Golden Girls threads"

We don't need to use "literally." I think you may be what we call "special."

r24

R11 If only there was a way to not participate in threads in which you have no interest! One day, maybe...

Has anyone else ever noticed there are many inconsistencies over the seasons of this programme?

No, we haven't Rose.

R27 Such as?

OP = Helen Keller

Any topic is better than Ukraine, royal family, dump, or jussie.

I think we should change the name of DL to The Datalounge as sponsored BY the golden girls. Isn't there any other show to obsess about?

R32 Go!

We could be discussing every nuance of the Mary Tyler Moore Show.

Or inconsistencies in I Love Lucy episodes

Why doesn't anyone discuss Empty Nest?

r35 lesbians.

R24, it is indeed literally, darling, because I actually did a thread search and counted ten of them from this year. See how easy that is? You're the one that's special, maybe even literally.

R37 Bless your heart

*

Thank you for eating my ass.

Whenever I need a burst of energy I shout “Dorothy, Rose, Blanche, Sophia” out into the ether.

Rose! Rose! I’m very fond of your pussy!

Shady Pines OP.

At least Dorothy got married in a beautiful dress.

It’s not what it looks like!

I’ll have to try that.

I’ll have to try your pussy..

In Spain, they're called Las chicas de oro!

Did Sophie ever have a best friend?

No r49, she couldn't make the choice.

By the way Dorothy’s not my daughter she’s my LESBIAN LOVER!

To the moon Rose!

What’s a metaphor?

"There is an incident in 1959 where hikers disappeared in the Russian Ural Mountains that we should also discuss. Have any of you heard of it?"

That reminds me of the Great St. Olaf Plain Mystery. In 1938, Gustav Kimbel and his friends, Thor and Haugrud Nikslikkin, were crossing a giant, flat, open field. . .and couldn't find their way out!

[quote]In Spain, they're called Las chicas de oro!

And in Brazil "As Super Gatas."

Les Craquantes

en français

[quote]In Spain, they're called Las chicas de oro!

In France, they're called Les Craquantes. Which I guess you could translate into the Irresistibles.

Did you know there's a t-shirt that says Dorothy in the streets, Blanche in the sheets? I thought that was so funny.

I was brought up on a dairy farm.

Jean thinks she’s in love with Rose.

Jean's kind shits on glass dining room tables.

Not Lebanese Blanche. Lesbian.

She leaves the convent in the end.

My God, there's even an Arabic dubbing! The Golden Girls is beloved worldwide.

After Pat died I never thought I’d want to eat pussy again. Until now….

Really original thread, OP.

R66 go jump in the toilet.

R66 oh blow it out your turbinbubbles!

[quote] go jump in the toilet.

Is it still in the living room?

My piss bucket is r69.

Where is Blanches room located?

Why do the girls all have bathrooms in their bedrooms?

What happened to Coco?

Did Rose's mother get to Houston okay?

Is Rose really allergic to cats?

Why was Peter Graves on the show again?

Sofia did not have her own bathroom. She frequently reported how shit pissed and shit in the dirt of potted houseplants.

These threads are not what they seem - they're all different

Remember Mrs. Gonzalez our old Spanish teacher...well she told me she'd like to sleep with me!

Things change, I never dreamed this could happen to me!

I hated Dorothy’s heavy looking hairstyle in the last couple of seasons.

Blanche looked younger in the last season than she did in the first.

R73 I HATED Rose’s bitch of a daughter, Kirsten.

Debbie Reynolds or Doris Roberts?

Betty White or Debbie Reynolds?

For those of you complaining about this thread, be aware that it's still moving along nicely with thoughtful and fun responses, so perhaps it's ok that it exists.

Any cousin Magda fans??

Any Frieda Claxton fans?

Anyone?

Anyone?

Buehler?

Me I love that sour ass

I’m very FOND of it.

You’re very FOND of Rose’s pussy!!!

I would do anything for Doug...and he'd bend over backwards for me. In fact he did that just last night where he let me stick my penis up his butt.

Clayton!!

What are you screaming about you, you slut?

I can see into your bedroom.

I think some of the things you do in there are illegal - I'm looking into it..

R87 I think you’re in need of a good dump; here’s another prune danish, always works for me.

R80, I think she’s tremendous.

Dorothy looked so different in seasons 6 and 7. It’s like she suddenly aged a few years all at once, even her voice was different.

Cousin Magda loved slurpy. Perhaps she should have dated Jean.

Dorothy was 70 but looked 200. Poor girl. She had to have some aging disease.

Did you see that video on pornhub where Sophia spread her pussy open?

Did the writers not know anyone of Italian ancestry that they wrote so cluelessly when it came to Sophia and Dorothy? It always bothered me that Sophia kept referring to her husband as Salvador, which is almost always the Spanish version of the name. An Italian man would have been called Salvatore.

Were American audiences in the 80s such bigots that they wouldn't have accepted Dorothy and Sophia being written as Jewish New Yorkers instead? Getty and Arthur would have been far more authentic playing a Jewish mother and daughter.

There are Italian Jews, R94. Maybe they were that. Wasn't George Costanza's father on Seinfeld of Jewish Italian descent.?

R95, they were written as Sicilian Catholics. Estelle Getty reportedly begged the writers to make her character (presumably Ashkenazi) Jewish because she really couldn't get a handle on the immigrant Catholic woman she was supposed to be playing.

For someone who had supposedly immigrated to the US only after she was married, Sophia spoke lousy Italian and her spoken English sounded like that of someone raised in Brooklyn rather than Sicily.

The writers couldn't even get the more well-known aspects of Italian Catholic immigrant life correct. No way in hell would they have known a thing about the specific sub-culture of Sephardic Jews from Italy.

R94 Who gives a fuck about that, how about the fact that none of the girls ever dressed for actual Miami weather!

Is this the show that starred Miss Angie Dickinson?

^^^^ Not the actual Miss Angie Dickinson herself, but a spectacular lookalike…

Did the episode where the old couple show up claiming that their and Sophia's babies were switched hint very strongly that Dorothy perhaps wasn't Sophia's daughter at all? It confused me as a kid because Bea Arthur had played some scenes as Sophia's mother in some flashback episodes, so I was puzzled by the prospect of Dorothy not even being related to Sophia.

GG's had way too many whimsical episodes that were just garbage. Most of season 5 were stupid, improbable episodes that were far removed from the actual or possible. Like the episode where Blanche and Dorothy go away and the girls rent out the rooms and make tonnes of money but then some stupid fuck breaks Blanche's orange plate and they have to spend all their earnings buying back the fucking plate only to have B break it when she returns. Horrible writing that was supposed to be ironic.

I heard they're all dead.

R101- In general GG was never more than an average sitcom with average writing.

R95 I am pretty sure George was "mixed" ..his dad Frank Costanza from italy was likely catholic and Estelle (who "won't get into a german car") is jewish. That's how I always took it.

And yes R96 I absolutely CRINGE when Sofia and even Dorothy tried to speak italian.

[quote] how about the fact that none of the girls ever dressed for actual Miami weather!

I saw an episode last night where Blanche was dating a very successful funeral director. She said “with this heat we’re having” and something about how many ‘customers’ he has.

That made me immediately look at what they’re all wearing: all in long sleeves and long clothes/dresses.

Amazed that a parody post on the GG gathers 105 replies. Btw is there a Russian version?

Blanche: Here, let me handle this. Nancy, honey. Now, I don't generally like to throw my name around, but you really leave me no choice. It so happens that I am Miss Angie Dickinson. And now, if you don't mind, I would like two rooms.

Nancy: You don't look like Angie Dickinson to me.

Blanche: I know, I have altered my appearance for a very important movie role.

For those of you who don't know me well, I'll let Guy Corbin introduce me:

Guy Corbin: Our second contestant is an artist with an incredible body. She runs her own museum, speaks Chinese and hopes to sail around the world before she turns 40. Wow, that must be a typo. Welcome, Blanche Devereaux!

I feel like giving Mr. Sunshine a big hug! You must be Dorothy!

And you must be Mrs. Rogers.

I would never ask Dorothy to help me with my resume.

Why R110? You don't want it to have a pencil correction saying you worked in the "private sekk-TERRRRR?"

R110 not even if it’s a JOB resume??

Not to mention, she already had the interview for the hospital administrator job, so they already had her resume. It was now on her to nail the interview.

I hated how they ended the episode with the DNA test. Dorothy’s sister was tall just like her. Plus she looked like her grandma.

Blanche had two different middle names.

Both Dorothy and Blanche were afraid of planes in different episodes.

The fact that Sophia's mother looked like Dorothy put to bed the idea that Philomena was Dot's mom.

R115 It would have been funny for Philomena turn out to be the long lost sister of Frieda Claxton.

On one of the other threads there was a poster clinging for dear life to the belief that the baby that caused Dorothy and Stan to marry died and that's why the son and daughter who did show up were nowhere near 35 years old. They just decided to never mention this dead baby ever. Not once.

So you don't mention babies, so what?

I hated Myra.

R119 I loved Candy the Stewardess!

I liked the revival, Sex and The City.

Watching one episode of The Golden Palace has ruined the whole of The Golden Girls for me.

Are you....limited, OP?

I think Marguerite has been inhaling too much Pine-sol.

Worse, r123, I think he’s…Jewish!

I may be limited, but I think Barbara Thorndyke is Lebanese...

^Not a bad joke for a full on retard.

^ Not a bad commend for a full-on Yankee carpetbagger, who is actually just TRASH!

You oughta know, Miss Cunterita.

How many episodes have the during-credits-roll extra scene?

I can think of:

1. Image Consultant (Pat?) ringing the doorbell to ask Dorothy out ("Too soon!")

2. Grammy's ghost keeping Blanche awake after she comes back from Atlanta (?) to try and stop them from destroying her home ("Peckerwood??")

what else?

Best Theme song for any sitcom in my my opinion.Very heartwarming , catchy and uplifting to listen to.

R106, the Russian version is Golden Showers Girls. There’s a tape out there somewhere.

R130 pretty sure it’s all of s7 (another thing going in it’s favor) but unfortunately with credit crunching you never see that anymore.

R117 Yes I remember that poster, and they mentioned it on more than one thread. They obviously believed that they had come up with a great and believable explanation as to the young ages of Dorothy and Stan’s children, and if they kept repeating it then we would all buy into it.

OP, please say hello to Opie and Aunt Bee for me when you see them.

Golden Grill.

[quote] another thing going in it’s favor

Oh, dear!

R135 It's a shame she didn't say that to Elinor Donahue wheh she was on her way to marry Stan.

Blanche: Girls, we can't fire her now. She's making me an aphrodisiac. Dorothy: Use vodka and black underwear like everyone else!

Rose: I got caught up at work and I barely had time to pick up this cake. I wanted to make Sven feel welcome.

Blanche: Rose! That cake is from the Get It While It's Hot Erotic Bake Shop!

Dorothy: [opening up the cake box and then quickly closing it] WHOA!!!!!

Blanche: Why, Rose Nylund, why, that cake is in the shape of...

Dorothy: Blanche, we know what it is.

Rose: I thought it was in the shape of Florida!

Blanche: That reminds me...I wanna give Charlie Milbourne a call . Dorothy: If this cake reminds you of Charlie Milbourne we can both give him a call!

Man: [in a flashback scene, responding to a personal ad of Dorothy's that Rose put in the newspaper] Dorothy?

Dorothy: Have we met?

Man: Not yet. I'm here because of your ad in the paper, "Willing to do anything - $8 an hour, no job too big or small."

Dorothy: Yes, yes, of course, please come in. I'm sorry, I didn't expect people to actually come here, I just figured, you know, that I would be going to them.

Man: That's the way it'll work in the future, when my video camera gets back from the shop.

Dorothy: So tell me, what kind of work is it that you need done, Mr.---

Man: Toto. Dorothy: ---Mr. Toto?

Man: Oh, no "Mr.," just "Toto." You're Dorothy, and I'm Toto. At least for the next eight dollars.

Rose: Dorothy, you owe me an apology; your ad's right here. [points to newspaper]

Dorothy: Oh Rose, this is the Personals column!

Rose: So what?

Dorothy: So what? You put an ad in the personals column that said I will do anything for eight dollars an hour?! Right under an ad that reads, "History professor seeking non-smoking Oriental woman who is into Wesson Oil and bears a resemblance to Florence Henderson."

Man: Is that signed "Doug"?

Dorothy: Yes.

Man: I know him; he's a sick man.

Dorothy: [showing her visitor to the door] I'm terribly sorry for this mixup; goodbye.

[The man leaves, and a priest then walks up to the open door]

Dorothy: Oh my GOD, I don't believe this! I'm going to call the cops if you don't get out of here right away, you PERVERT!

Sophia: [walks up carrying a large box and hands it to the bewildered-looking priest] Hi, Father Rossi! Here's the canned goods for the needy!

Dorothy: [mortified] Oh, no... [to Father Rossi] I'm terribly sorry. I promise that I will say Hail Marys until Madonna has a hit movie.

[Another man enters through the open door after the priest leaves and walks up to Rose]

Man #2: [to Rose] Hi! Here's my eight dollars! Let's get started, Dorothy!

Rose: Oh, I'm not Dorothy; she is.

Man #2: [to Dorothy] I'll give you four dollars. Let's get started.

Dorothy: How would you like your rear end kicked across the street?!!

Man #2: Oh, great! Here's the other four dollars!

[Dorothy throws Man #2 out of the house. Enter Blanche]

Blanche: Girls! Girls! There's a busload of Greek sailors out front! They want to know how many drachma there are in eight dollars!

Blanche: Well, Barbara, Dorothy tells us you're an author . Barbara: No, I'm just a writer. Malamud's an author.

Rose: I thought Malamuds were chocolate cookies with marshmallows in them.

Blanche: Nancy, honey. Now I don't generally like to throw my name around but you really leave me no choice. It so happens that I am Miss Angie Dickinson! And now, if you don't mind, I would like two rooms.

Nancy: You don't look like Angie Dickinson to me.

Blanche: I know, I have altered my appearance for a very important movie role.

Dorothy: Yeah, it's about a woman who eats her way from behind the Iron Curtain

Sophia: Rose is my daughter now. And you, Dorothy, are the biggest disappointment to hit the streets since the AMC Pacer!

Angelo: Sophia, you're lookin' terrific! You haven't changed a bit in 40 years!

Sophia: Angelo, you're a priest, you shouldn't lie!

Angelo: Ah, don't worry about it, don't worry about it. Before the trip I said an extra fifty Hail Mary's in case I felt like cutting loose. ... Dorothy!

Dorothy: Uncle Angelo, it is so good to see you!

Angelo: Dorothy, you know something, you look more beautiful now than you did on your wedding day.

Stan: He just used up all fifty Hail Mary's on that one.

Angelo: Stan, you still a funny guy, got a sense of humor still, eh? [To Dorothy] He still make you laugh like he used to?

Dorothy: Well, not really, but then again I haven't seen him naked lately.

Sophia: Jean thinks she's in love with Rose.

Blanche: Rose? Jean has the hots for Rose?!! I don't believe it, I do not believe it!

Dorothy: I was pretty surprised myself.

Blanche: Well, I'll bet! To think Jean would prefer Rose over me! That's ridiculous!

Blanche compares herself to one of "Charlie's Angels"]

Blanche: I once was told I bore a striking resemblance to Miss Cheryl Ladd ... although my bosoms are perkier!

Dorothy: Not even if you were hanging upside-down on a trapeze!

Blanche: I am abhorred!

Sophia: We know what you are Blanche. I'm glad to finally hear you admit it.

Blanche: Sophia, I said "abhorred".

Sophia: A whore, a slut, a tramp, it's all the same.

Rose: [listening to a planted bug] They keep talking about that noodlehead in the red dress. Could that be code language?

Dorothy: Only to the noodlehead in the red dress.

Blanche: Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go take a long, hot, steamy bath with just enough water to barely cover my perky bosoms.

Sophia: You're only gonna sit in an inch of water?!

Rose: What you need is faith.

Dorothy: And what you need is a psychiatrist who enjoys a challenge

Blanche: I'm just so embarrassed to be seen in this old thing.

Sofia: Don't worry, Blanche, the dress covers most of it.

Blanche: Why are you insulting me? Sophia: It's a defense mechanism. I guess it's to hide my feelings when I'm deeply upset. Blanche: Oh, well, I understand. In that case, I won't take it personally. Sophia: Thanks, you human mattress.

(Sofia's digs at Blanche were the best ones imo)

Sofia: (to Blanche) Beat it you 50 year old mattress!

Blanche got her back a few times, especially here Blanche : You know, Sophia... This birthday thing kinda has me depressed as well. You think you could help me, too?

Sophia Petrillo : Sure. No matter how bad things get, remember these sage words: you're old, you sag, get over it!

Blanche : [angrily] Sophia?

Sophia Petrillo : So what if you knew Jesus personally? Wake up and smell the coffee, ya fossil!

Blanche : My mistake; I thought since you look like Yoda, you were also wise.

[walks off]

GG was a very sexist tv show. It should have been called "Cock-Loving Grannies" because that's all they talked about. It was a show about men with an all female cast. Instead of having four young attractive women talk about men all day long, they did it with older women and called it progressive. You have the stereotypes: The tall ugly girl who can't get dates, the dumb blonde, the slut and the non-threatening funny old lady. They are extremely catty and insecure, their entire lives and happiness revolve around men and how men please them or how they hurt them in the past. They wait around for their dates to show up or steal each other's dates. Dorothy hates her loser ex-husband Stan but keeps sleeping with him and almost marries him a second time. The show ends with the ugly duckling who turns into a princess and marries her prince charming. Now the good: All four actresses were top notch and they deserved better especially Bea Arthur who was called ugly and manly by the male writers during the first few seasons.

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R156 which character are you most like? My guess is Dorothy Zbornak.

R156, lighten up Francis.

I just watched the episode where they win $10000 in an lottery ticket that ends up in the jacket of a homeless person, causing them to sleep in a shelter all night to get the ticket, only to then give the winnings to the creepy pastor in charge of the shelter.

Did anyone think that the pastor was really going to do anything to benefit the homeless? It was an odd, feel good gesture in a very strange episode, which sought to educate people on the plight of the homeless. I thought it was a great episode overall.

Oh shit, R160. The "Brother, Can You Spare A Dime?" episode is LOATHED here on DL. Prepare to get pounded. And not in the way you were hoping.

Sofia it is tomorrow

Do people drink piss in their 80s?

Did anyone else notice the buns on that priest?

[quote][R130] pretty sure it’s all of s7 (another thing going in it’s favor) but unfortunately with credit crunching you never see that anymore.

I don't think it's all of S7. I can only think of a few examples and I watch it all the time.

I do have to say that having network censors forced writers to get more creative with the jokes, which ended up being a good thing. I think people forget that.

R58 It's better than the "Rose in the streets, Sophia in the sheets" one.

Oh look, another Golden Girls thread on Datalounge. How original.

Barbara, Norman just brought your car around. You don't want to be late for the 30th anniversary screening of School Ties.

Did you like the segment where Dorothy is waiting for Rose in Dr Escobar’s office and that mental dude stares at her point blank? Dorothy is forced to acknowledge him then he asks her for a match. He lights it and goes on how destructive fire is if it falls into the wrong hands. 😆

Someone put the girls in order by their biggest weight on the show.

R169 I actually read that in her voice.

Let’s all say it together: Mar-ghee-ooo-reet.

I hated Myles daughter with that long crimp-perm hair and bolts of fabric covering every inch of flesh in blue fabric.

Big Daddy was an asshole

My interest in The Golden Girls is as effusive and everlasting

as the wealth of knowledge and wisdom that flows from the population of Saint Olaf

Dorothy’s surprise birthday party with the clown is a hilarious scene. Bea Arthur and Betty White knocked it out of the park.

Have we ever discussed how Blanche’s grandson and Michael Zbornak are brothers?

What happened to the fancy man in episode one? Cancelled, homeless and doing chaturbate just to keep his head above water?

Who was Rose’s obvious from space body double in the dance marathon episode?

R180, he died after ingesting a bad batch of enchiladas rancheros.

They really should have used Aunt Angela once more in later seasons. Hell, how about one episode per season?

Aunt Angela distracted viewers, and the audience never really got behind her as a guest. It made no sense to have a Jewish character actress from the northeast US play an Italian immigrant. Nancy Walker didn’t pretend to look Italian or even attempt a whisp of an Italian accent. She stuck out like a sore thumb among the perfectly-cast main players.

R184 totally agree. I loved Angelo though - he fit in very well.

Anyone else check out Stan's bulge when he'd sit wearing khakis?

Don't judge me, but I always wanted to get fucked by Stan Zbornak.

I bet the sex with Stan would be dirty af.

[quote] Each of the four stars received an Emmy Award, making it one of only four sitcoms in the award's history to achieve this

What were the other 4 sitcoms?

Will & Grace and All In The Family are two that I know

Its a travesty Jason Alexander (who played arguablythe funniest comedic male character of the last 50 years)never got an Emmy alongside Jerry, Julia and Michael on Seinfeld.

Now I just want to start an Emmy snub thread. Jane Krakowsi on 30 rock would get HM.

[quote] Aunt Angela distracted viewers, and the audience never really got behind her as a guest. It made no sense to have a Jewish character actress from the northeast US play an Italian immigrant.

But it did make sense to have Bea and Estelle, both Jewish and from the northeast play them?

And anyway, Nancy Walker wasn’t Jewish.

R180, the actor playing Coco only did small parts afterwards, but had some regular work at least. Below is from his Wiki, his death was quite tragic.

[quote]On July 8, 2019, Charles Levin's son reported to the police that Levin was missing, and had not been heard from since June 28. At the time, Levin lived in Grants Pass, Oregon, and was in the process of moving to a new house in the town. Levin's car was found on July 12 on a remote road northeast of Selma, Oregon. The body of his dog, Boo Bear, was found inside. Levin's body was found a day later. On November 8, 2019, authorities confirmed Levin's cause of death to be accidental. His car became stuck where it was later found, on an unmaintained wilderness road. After trying to free it, it appeared he left the car in search of help and fell to his death down a 30-foot (9 m) embankment. He was 70 years old.

R178 I used to like that birthday / ha-ha scene too. Now I hate it as actually it wasn’t funny.

R184 no. You’re dead wrong. The Angels episodes are among my favorites.

Angela.

How did a good Southern Baptist bigot like Blanche allow Eye-talian Catholics to live in her house, especially the old mother who was one of them foreigners?

I was always told than Blanche was so popular with men because she loved anal sex. No doubt she loved bareback too. Since you can't have anything but butt babies instead of in her gash.

Did Estelle’s pussy stink?

I recently watched the 1985 pilot where Dorothy complains about having to teach bald-headed girls with nose rings. Those girls would now be around the same age as the original Golden Girls.

Dorothy was the original trans man. So masculine.

^ Well she was no Barbara Bush

but she had a fair-sized dick

Does anyone have a link to their Playboy spread?

Did you like Dorothy’s English teacher Mr Gordon?

Malcom

I hated curly Sue as Blanche’s granddaughter Melissa.

Watching Golden Girls relaxes me and is soothing.

Stanley, shut up and put your hair on!

Here’s a copy of my latest novel Scarlet Dawn at Boca Raton.

Do you know I’m a remember of the rainbow coalition?

*member. Backed into that one.

Did Jack Gilford’s character annoy anyone else, or was it just me?

R227 ughhhh …the worst and I hate those episodes.

Speaking of 227, who else watched that on Sat night?

THere's no place like home. I mean no place, chile!

^Mawee!

SONNNNDRA!!!!

There's a hurricane a comin'!

A’comin’?

R232 Not as funny as a "messa sumthin".

We wus poah.

Anyone else find Bea Arthur attractive in the later seasons? I liked her makeup and hairstyle. I thought she was pretty foxy for a 69-70 year old. I liked her height too. I don't understand how the writers were able to make fun of her all these years. I think it's in season 2 when Dorothy gets a foot operation but escapes from the hospital and Rose runs to Blanche's room and tells her she's seen "a big ugly man outside", and of course it's Dorothy. Why didn't Betty, Rue and Estelle complain to the writers about these insults? It must have hurt Bea so much.

Sophia

Oops…Sophia

Be Arthur's shoulder pads.

I watched the series when it first aired and even back then I noticed that the plots seemed to rely way too much on either the love interest of the week or the family member who comes to visit.

It was very formulaic and the way continuity didn't seem to matter at all still bothers me. It was full of flaws , as most sitcoms are. That being said, the actual dialogue and the performances and comedic chemistry between the actors made it rise way above the levels of what it would otherwise be considered to be.

Sofia/EG could do a much better southern accent than an italian/american one, sadly.

Was Barbara Thorndyke supposed to be a Floridian Pat Conroy? Or a Floridian Dorothea Benton Frank?

R238 they need to seek those on eBay

**or at least SELL them

Lol

R236, my understanding is that Bea Arthur had a sense of humor about her being 'mannish'....and I would argue that she used that to get famous on TV back in the days of Maude.

I think she enjoyed the jokes about Dorothy being a big ugly man, and didn't take it personally. She was a pro through and through.

R246 it’s been widely reported that was not the case, r246. She WAS hurt by the ugly Dorothy comments.

Dorothy- It’s just like living in Ecuador.

Sofia - (walking by) Sorry, it was me.

Well I'm so anxious to discuss this topic for the 900th time this week!

R246 she hated the jokes and it personally affected her a great deal.

Everyone thought Bea Arther looked and sounded like a man. So what else would they do with her dudish character?

That idiot Howie Mandel was the presenter when Rue won the Emmy for Best Actress, but he pronounced her last name as "McCallahan" instead of McClanahan.

R252 Jesus Lucy. That musta just esploded your tampon, eh.

[quote] but he pronounced her last name as "McCallahan" instead of McClanahan.

It happens.

He could have said the completely wrong name.

Bea looked and sounded like a man. The jokes were well deserved.

R252 they certainly made enough jokes about him the following season (I never knew why until I read Rue’s my first 50 husbands autobio)

If they made the Golden Girls today Bea/Dorothy would be a transwoman and everyone would be extra supportive of her brave journey.

We think Dorothy IS brave and stunning!

^ Have you seen the size of her behind?

Y’all shouldn’t make fun of Dorothy.

I once saw her uproot a mighty sequoia.

Dorothy Zbornak was my fave.

[quote] they certainly made enough jokes about him the following season

I recently saw those episodes and wondered what the deal was.

There was an Oprah joke too. I wonder what she did to piss off the writers? Finish all the rolls at the Golden Globes.

Oprah was so popular during the GG run that an occasional joke was more than called for as literally everyone did it.

Poor Bea. She DID look like a man.

[quote]Anyone else find Bea Arthur attractive in the later seasons?

She was much more advanced in her transition. She also had started her voice training and could reach almost a baritone pitch if not quite a feminine pitch yet.

[quote] Oprah was so popular during the GG run that an occasional joke was more than called for as literally everyone did it.

It sure was.

What bugged me was how every other episode one of the girls would get a marriage proposal and thought about leaving. AS IF! Even the final episode where sexy Lester Nielson marries Dorothy after knowing her for five minutes. AS IF! But I did like the episode where Dorothy hides her fist under the chair after Blanche takes a shower and is wearing nothing but a robe. She sits down on Dorothy's manly fist and pretends like she don't know what she just sat on. That was classic 80's writing.

The episode that has Trudy McMahon has great zingers.

Why did the girls always seem to try to control who their friends were?

B. Thorndyke

Rose's beach buddies

Stan befriending Blanche with an innocent date

Dorothy's hippie pal

R268, what episode was that?

And it was Leslie Nielson, not Lester.

[quote] And it was Leslie Nielson

Oh dear.

[quote] Even the final episode where sexy Lester Nielson marries Dorothy

Oh DEAR!

Madeline Kahn should have guest starred.

Bea shit on Betty’s dressing room floor.

Madeline Kahn would have been a welcome addition to ANY sitcom. Sadly, her own show, “Oh, Madeline” sucked ass, and not in the good way.

I desperately wanted Debbie Reynolds to stay as the 5th golden girl for at least a few episodes.

All in the Family could create classic episodes with just the four main characters in the Bunker house. GG relied on guest characters pretty much from day one.

R277 Meh my favorite GG epis are of just the 4 of them talking with cheesecake, so I don't agree. Usually those are the episodes that are the most loved and remembered.

Says you r278.

I was shocked to find out only 22 episodes involved them eating cheesecake.

I happen to be watching it right now, Season 4, Rose has a drug problem. Apparently she has been addicted for 30 years. She gets sent to rehab for a month. No joke. Have no idea how I missed this in the past.

Agree with r278 - it’s not a show that people watched (generally speaking) for the guest stars.

Even Debbie Reynolds was much much better on Will & Grace.

Debbie Reynolds didn't have a character to work with on The Golden Girls, that was the problem. She had two brief scenes where she spouted a couple of one liners and that was it. I remember being baffled watching it at the time, because it was hyped up on shows like Entertainment Tonight about Debbie possibly joining The Golden Girls.

They made two episodes with characters that were possible Bea replacements, and they didn't bother actually making either character interesting or memorable. And the Gloria Two Parter was so bad, that Gloria disappears for half the show. It was like the writers lost interest in the idea halfway through writing the script!

Bea hated Debbie Reynolds. Debbie said that Bea was a nasty cunt toward her.

I loved the Gloria episode from Season 1, because you could sense that as much as they bickered, there was still a bond between Dorothy and Gloria there. And Doris Belack and Bea just had better chemistry.

I didn’t like the Gloria character in any season.

R285 I preferred the first Gloria too but fuck do I love the Monkey Show episodes. I get it you either love the ridiculousness of Season 7 or you don’t but damn if it didn’t have some of the funniest episodes in the entire series.

I too am a huge season 7 fan. Some of the best episodes and best one liners. Plus Estelle Getty was her funniest in the last two seasons. I never cared for her in the earlier seasons, especially the first.

I don't hate season seven, but it's far from my favorite either. I just find the writing infantilized and mean spirited.

I think seasons two through four are the best. Season three being the pinnacle of the show. Bringing up Baby, The Housekeeper are arguably the best.

R288 interesting I loved her in the first two seasons the most - and then in the last two just because she was such a fucking cunt by that point, but not the middle ones where I thought she was the most cloying and borscht belt-ish (even for her)

The middle seasons are also my least favorite in general, so there’s that.

Season 7 is the most fun to watch in reruns imo.

Season 2 & 3 are my faves

First half of season 4 has some of the best episodes (dance marathon, the flying one) and the second half (basically any of the ones with Blanche’s poodle perm) were some of the worst. Did they get new writers then I wonder?

Meant season 3 of course

Season 3 had Jake, George Clooney, Marguerite, Barbara Thorndyke!

Season 2 had Freida Claxton

My favorite episode is the one where one of the girls dates a guy but it doesn't work out.

I prefer seasons 5-7.

Season 1 was the worst & season 2 better but not by much.

BED looked awful as a sexy siren in those years. Dorothy was ugly in clothes, personality & looks plus her deep voice then was very irritating.

I could buy Blanche as a sexpot in the final seasons of the show.

R296 I prefer piss to shit,

R296 watched golden girls for their sex appeal! Lol

Which season did you find Sofia the sexiest? Season 7?

The whole point of Blanche was not that she was some great beauty, but that she thought she was.

Rue did look amazing by the last season, but it undermined the point of the character. And it made the others look like they were simply jealous of her instead of friends who simply knew that she was full of shit.

I prefer the first 4 seasons...I'm all about the cheesecake moments.

And can we talk about how much of a stinking pile of shit the finale was and how it went against the whole point of the series?

I stop at Home Again, Rose. I'm offended by the finale, because I refuse to believe that Dorothy would have been THAT selfish to go against their whole pact.

And don't even get me started on that whole spinoff series.

Sofia was a total sex pot in season 6. She looked manly and mean in season 2.

My way is the best way. Na ha na! I’m a big assed queer baby! Waaa waa!

The finale was SHIT. Tacked on ending, and kind of sexist if I do say so myself. They made it all about Dorothy. And of course, Dorothy's toilet paper roll wedding dress.

I will say, for the most part , the show was pretty steady, quality wise. Not like some other shows where the drop in quality is very obvious, and people all agree, or mostly agree. on a season or moment where things start going bad. I didn't really notice that on this show...there were some stinkers in the beginning, in the middle and in the end, and there were some magnificent episodes then too. Though I do say that I still prefer the earlier seasons because they were more based on the dialogue and had more "cheesecake" moments than the plot heavy ones.

Don't forget the gay episodes.

Dorothy's lesbo roommate falling in love with Rose ("Not LEBANESE!!!)

Clayton part 1

Clayton part 2 (Clayton gets married; "He'd bend over BACKWARDS for me!")

Dorothy and Blanche mistaken for lesbians on Wake Up Miami (with Pat and??? t he "image consultants"!)

Pat and Cathy. They didn't believe in labels.

I thought the Jeanne episode was lovely but Jean had known Rose for, what, 2 days? And she was already falling in love? Seemed a bit far fetched.

R305 even more forward thinking in that they drew up a character that was a cross dresser but was in every respect a 100 percent heterosexual male. Virtually no one grasped those kind of distinctions back then.

R308 People have pretty much forgotten straight crossdressers are/were a thing, judging by how many people lost their shit when they said they would allow a straight guy into Drag Race.

I hated the continuity errors.

^ It was made for a time when VCRs were new technology

and TV production didn't realize the implications

of fans being able to watch their shows over and over, on demand

R310, it wasn't even that they were errors or mistakes....they just seemed to have a total lack of regard for any continuity, like one episode they would decide Dorothy had 5 kids, then a few episodes after only 2. They just did not care about painting an accurate picture at all.

The only one that really bothered me was “Rose’s adoptive parents Alma and Guenther NYLUND.”

I mean fuck you’d think Betty who was supposedly “all brains” could have brought that up at table read.

Take a look at Jean’s hairstyle sometime. It was confused like her sexuality

Did Blanche ever visit Beverly Hills? That bedroom wallpaper though…

Today TV series have a "Show Bible" that contains all the relevant information from all the episodes.

In the days of TGG, production was primarily concerned only about continuity within each specific episode.

Nor could they have foreseen the rise of the DL Cult of the Golden Girls, where each episode would be discussed and dissected ad nauseum.

"So you're trying to tell me that a bunch of gay guys are going to be obsessing about every detail of every episode on something called the 'internet' in 30 or 35 years?"

Rose finding her monk dad was awful too. Like, if you're going to paint some elaborate half assed story only for the guy to show up one episode then disappear forever why bother at all.

And I have watched other shows that came earlier before Golden Girls and they did not disregard the previous writing nowhere near as much.

[quote]and they did not disregard the previous writing nowhere near as much.

Well, I suppose we'll have to rely on your word for that...

They were grinding out 25 to 26 weekly episodes each season.

Their goal was good ratings and good storytelling.

Given that, your expectation of continuity perfection may be a tad unrealistic...

This show was headed for syndication based on it's top 10 status.

TPTB knew any errors would be picked up by viewers.

R28 I am not saying they couldn't make some mistakes...every show has...they just did not care AT ALL about even trying. No one is asking for perfection, for fucks sake

R271 Fuck your cunt. It was Lester.

[quote] I thought the Jeanne episode was lovely but Jean had known Rose for, what, 2 days? And she was already falling in love? Seemed a bit far fetched.

You've never heard of U-Haul lesbians?

I thought Blanche's gay brother Clayton was handsome and very sexy.

[quote]I thought Blanche's gay brother Clayton was handsome and very sexy.

Monte Markham, still with us at 86.

R284, when did Debbie say that?

Monte Markham has that Richard Burgi hot daddy look

Doug was sexy too… I’d love for him to bend over backwards for me.

R4 LAWRENCE OF ARABIA

[quote] —it was ahead of it's time

[quote] based on it's top 10 status.

Oh, DEAR!

Was Mammy Watkins starting to show signs of dementia when she said Blanche’s middle name was Marie? Or did Blanche just decide her middle name was Elizabeth so that her initials would spell bed?

Let’s discuss Jean’s hairstyle. Thoughts? It’s both long and short. Very hairspray’d and looks like it hasn’t been washed for ages.

^ Poor Jean (Lois Nettleton) had thin hair...

She really needed a good gay hairdresser much more than she needed a big-breasted farm gal from St. Olaf.

Miami hot and humid and sure enough Dorothy (Bea) in those ugly white boots.

I loved how Stan’s mom (played by the excellent Alice Ghostly) made hot tea for Dorothy when she came for a visit. 😝

Random trivia. Bea Arthur was sent to an all girls boarding school in amish country PA and was kicked out because she had alcohol in a perfume bottle. years later the school called her for a contribution and she hung up on them.

Why didn't the girls call the bank when Rose left to get $ from it (when they thought she'd move away to Boston) for pension scammer Buddy O'Rourke? I always thought that was dumb how they just gave up on helping her. Rose might've been delayed or still have been there.

Blanche's hair around the "Mixed Blessing" season end episodes was horrible. Talk about a curly mess.

I agree r5. They may not have owned or had access to cell phones but they could have called a business or bank or an individual to get the message to her to call home ASAP. They flaked come her.

Can someone explain the layout of the house to me please?

Kitchen, living room, 4 bedrooms, lanai.

Does that explain it?

There was a back entry or exit off of the kitchen they used to enter and leave

R340 No. Why did they all turn right when going down the hallway? Did they have their own bathrooms? Windows?

I was always under the impression Sofia did not have her own bathroom. Her room was comparatively smaller

She did in the wedding to her Brooklyn friend Max.

Did you miss that one, stretch?

R342, have at it.

True r344 I forgot.

These fucking threads give me deja vu. Me thinks you cunts have discussed these fucked up ideas a million times. Gotta be a sign of gay aging. Let's discuss the fucking Golden Girls for the millionth time. We survived the aids for this.

R347 is Tom Villard a.k.a. Rick from the "Vacation" episode.

"I'd like to teach the world to sing..."

R345 Nice try but Blanche had her room away from other girls only in the pilot. Then her room was in the back of the hallway. All of them had their rooms there. I assume Blanche had the biggest and best room.

Jesus, I didn’t create the floor plan, r349.

[quote]There was a back entry

Oh, there was a back entry, alright!

R344, they weren't even consistent about who had/hadn't bathrooms within that two-parter episode!

Part 1 - Sophia emerges from her private bathroom in her wedding dress right before marrying Max.

Part 2 - Max goes into the shower while Dorothy is using it, thinking it was Sophia in there instead. If they each had their own bathrooms, that scenario would never happen.

They were only consistent about Blanche having her own bathroom, which made sense. She had the master bedroom.

(And another thing, whose bathroom were they renovating when the plumber arrived with the Girl Scout toilet?)

R351 I know all about that back entry too!

R352 in the episode where the first Gloria visits, Gloria comes out of what looks like a bathroom in Dorothy’s bedroom.

[quote]in the episode where the first Gloria visits, Gloria comes out of what looks like a bathroom in Dorothy’s bedroom.

There was never any consistency in the storylines from week to week, but you're expecting consistency in the set design? Were you shocked to learn that the show was filmed in a TV studio and not inside an actual house?

I think Dorothy and Sofia got the crappiest rooms. We know Blanche got the master one as she lived there, and Rose got the good bedroom after her and Dorothy disputed it when they first moved in.

Actually, I preferred Dorothy’s bedroom. It was warm and cozy.

Why was Bea Arthur so nasty? She didn’t like Betty White, Debbie Reynolds and even that wonderful character actress, Dena Dietrich. (She played Dorothy’s sister Gloria, in a later episode.) I’m sure there were others who annoyed her.

Bea was my favorite actress among the four Golden Girls. She was the best. Off screen, she could be very difficult.

Bea was a nasty miserable old cunt. Never happy. Just a negative person. I would have smacked her if I met her. Life wasn’t so bad, negative Bea.

My feet have wings, barfbag.

Bea was cursed with extreme self-awareness and intelligence. Off the charts intelligence. It usually also gives severe misanthropy, too. They are unable to tolerate the stupidity of average people. Bea was also a severe introvert. So she had no use for most people, especially extroverts like Betty White, who always needed the approval of everyone else.

She was also cursed with huge boney ugly feet, square manly hips, a non existent bosom, a turkey like neck, sticky out ears, a huge behind, multiple chins, a honker off a nose and the shoulders of a quarter back. Rumour has it that she also had a hump removed from her back in her younger years.

Still, at least she was intelligent…

R362 LOL. Yuu are the world's biggest cunt. She would have chewed up your cunty bones and swallowed your puny stupid ass in one gulp. Fucking cunt. LOL.

The Bob Hope cameo was fun but all his jokes were about Ronald and Nancy and George and Barbara. Did he insist on using his RNC material?

[quote]in the episode where the first Gloria visits, Gloria comes out of what looks like a bathroom in Dorothy’s bedroom.

Oh that Gloria...

She was just taking a dump in Dorothy's closet...

Sisters and their crazy practical jokes!

R344 I don’t k ie that they said that was Sophia’s bathroom. It’s could’ve been the hallway bathroom.

In fact it must’ve been because Dorothy and Max used it. If Sophia had her own that wouldn’t have happened.

Sorry I see someone pointed that out already. My thread wasn’t loading all the replies.

Dorothy's bedroom was nice and very cosey, but Rose's was huge, fitting in a whole living room set in the back. That definitely seemed to be the biggest room in the house.

I liked Blanche's bedroom, but to be honest, it never really seemed to fit the character. You would have thought it would have been more Southern belle styled.

That jungle-patterned wallpaper in Blanche's bedroom covered the damaged plaster behind her headboard.

In "Grab That Dough" Blanche says they only have 1 tub but there is another when Dorothy & Max "shower" together.

Could it have been added later when they were remodeling the garage into a guest bedroom?

All of the bedrooms are huge by U.K. standards, Rose’s bedroom is practically the size of a London apartment. Given the number of people come to stay how come they never bought a sofa bed.

[quote]That jungle-patterned wallpaper in Blanche's bedroom covered the damaged plaster behind her headboard.

Was it a padded headboard? Blanche is lucky she didn't fracture her skull.

Whose bedroom did sexy Clayton sleep in when he came to visit? And was he in the shower when Sophia heard him sing Send In The Clowns? Whose bathroom was he showering in?

R373 These questions keep stupid brain dead cunts awake at night.

^^^ And give you something to come on here and moan about. If you haven’t got anything to add to this thread then fuck off because we don’t want you here.

All GG's threads need to fucking die. There is nothing more annoying than you fucking cunts.

I can think of another thing, R376.

R376

Fucking cunts survived the aids only to end up doing nothing but worshiping a horrible show from 30 years ago. You cunts are the definition of fucking trash. Time to start another hundred threads about the fucking GG's. Trash.

R379

Imagine what it must be like to be R379, full of self loathing and hatred that spews out of his every pore. Unable to even have a light hearted laugh about an old comedy show, unable to join in, friendless, disliked by everyone, and bitter to the core. Basically a thoroughly horrible and nasty person without even the sense to just pass by a thread that doesn’t meet his approval. Instead he feels the need to dump his negativity onto the rest of us.

Imagine what it must be like to wake up in this persons skin everyday, imagine having to live your life with such rage and anger. However bad things might get for the rest of us, we will never be as sad and pathetic as this piece of worthless shit. And he knows it.

Dorothy and Stan's first baby died, leaving Dorothy free to room with Jean and go to college. Stan went to Korea. They had the other two later when Dorothy had an established teaching career.

^^^ Were where you, we have been waiting for you. You got a mention upthread about how you have been clinging onto this dead baby story for dear life. It’s very admirable of you, unfortunately nobody has ever bought into it. But kudos for keeping on trying.

R383 hi honey. Dorothy was also a school inspector but lost her job after Stan left her and she had a breakdown. She lost their house through her gambling.

R376 is Jeremy wanting me back.

Hit the road scrawny ass.

How come no discussion of Big Daddy?

It really bothered me that both the men who played Big Daddy were not big at all. One was quite puny.

They were big where it counts R386.

R376 go jump in the toilet

R379 eat my asshole

"Better late than..?" ....... "Pregnant!!"

You first Mr. Game Show Host...

Big daddy, Rebecca, Kirsten, Michael, Gloria and other family members all had different actors playing them. Was there any consistency at all in the characters casting? I caught an episode the other day, the lesbians of Miami one were Dorothy helped her old school teacher crush with a paper, was he the same guy who played Rose’s date impotent Ernie?

Michael was always played by the same guy

Did Blanche ever give random blowjobs at The Rusty Anchor?

I have a quantum physics/new age theory about the origin of Estelle's dementia. She's the only one who played older than her age. She played an elderly woman who sometimes had memory problems. There's even an entire episode about Sophia's gradual memory loss and Dorothy takes her to their old apartment in Brooklyn to help her remember her life with Sal. According to the LOA, if you 'act as if" meaning you pretend to have something you don't already have or you pretend to be someone else, your reality will start to mirror your new state of consciousness. I read a story about this in Deepak Chopra's book Quantum Healing. He mentioned a study that was done many years ago on men who were 70 and they pretended to be living in the 1950s when they were much younger. What happened was that they physically and psychologically got younger. Skin elasticity improved, eyesight, hearing, blood pressure etc. returned to normal. So if someone did the opposite, like Estelle did for 7 years and pretended they were much older than they actually were, the same thing could happen but in reverse. The person would develop the same problems elderly people tend to suffer from. Did Estelle unintentionally manifest her dementia by playing Sophia Petrillo?

Sophia also mentioned an attic in one episode.

Let's discuss the pure science fiction of Blanche's niece being catnip to anything with a penis.

R397...I believe it...she was hardly drop dead gorgeous or anything but she just gave off slut airs, of course she would get dick everywhere.

^ and with that fake Southern accent of hers

Let's just say she caught a LOT of South Florida dick and cocaine...

[quote]That jungle-patterned wallpaper in Blanche's bedroom covered the damaged plaster behind her headboard.

Why was her plaster damaged?

[quote] That jungle-patterned wallpaper in Blanche's bedroom

Fuck you!

Well, I smell that the old cunt Freida Claxton has entered the thread

Hello Freida, R376, R379

I say we get out a cheesecake and keep these threads going!

I'll get the whipped cream!!!!!!!

[quote]Why was her plaster damaged?

Bob Saget fell and hit his head in her bedroom, Rose.

Twee shite, no idea why people are still discussing this dull sitcom

Blanche,

Why don't you take R406 to your bedroom and give him the full "Bob Saget"...

No seriously, it's dated fluff TV, what's the attraction? Maybe it provides some comfort for older people, but otherwise I don't see it.

But your life is so full, former Congressman Schock

that you must take time away from your Circuit Parties to come here and post about it

I love the recurring DLism that it's only coffin dodgers who like this show.

What a joke that a bunch of young people befriended Rose at the beach and were constantly calling for her to go out with them to "eat life".

Well, it happened...

And I tried to "eat life"

but I didn't really like the taste, not savory enough for me

I'm sorry, girls...

I can't seem to find the whipped cream.

Truth be told, I know 30 something millennials obsessed with the show. Blame it on the constant re runs everywhere. Also, this is know how I sing along to the theme song.

[quote]was he the same guy who played Rose’s date impotent Ernie?

No, but Ernie was also Mr Wilhelm (George's boss at the Yankees) on Seinfeld.

R415 Also ,the actor who played Jerry's dad was the same guy that played the mob guy who started dating Rose, who Miles was running from.

R386 and both looked pretty fucking fey.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but you know..

[quote] No seriously, it's dated fluff TV, what's the attraction? Maybe it provides some comfort for older people, but otherwise I don't see it.

And yet here you are on this thread.

I don’t understand people like you. I have absolutely no interest in soap operas, or the BRF, or numerous other threads on this board. You know what I do? I (with apologies to Ms. Warwick) scroll on by.

I don’t go into the threads and berate or mock people for enjoying whatever it is they’re talking about. I simply don’t participate.

A bitchy comment about an ancient naff TV show on a bitchy gossip site and R418 clutches their pearls and puts across a non convincing argument about how wrong I am. Much consternation is had in the DL hood and yet my fucks continue to fly out of the window.

MY, R419! What big words you have!

Which one, was it "bitchy" R420?

Was Freida Claxton also Wilomena, the woman who gave birth to gina?

How did someone like Dorothy land a sexy silver fox like Leslie Nielsen? Was Lucas Hollingsworth secretly gay (like his nephew Clayton) and using Dorothy as a beard?

I would have paid money to watch short and bald Eddie fuck Dorothy. That must have been like something from a circus act.

It’s so strange that they used so many actors in different roles on the show, even the actor who had a re-accruing role as Dorothy’s father turned up as a court jester at a medieval night banquet.

And yet for other episodes were characters made another appearance they often switched actors.

Yes R422 I thought they made a good looking couple R423

[quote]How did someone like Dorothy land a sexy silver fox like Leslie Nielsen? Was Lucas Hollingsworth secretly gay (like his nephew Clayton) and using Dorothy as a beard?

If Lucas had been gay, he'd have taken one look at that toilet paper roll wedding dress and said,

"Dear God, Dorothy, no, you are not wearing that!"

[quote] had a re-accruing role

A what role now?

[quote] [R415] Also ,the actor who played Jerry's dad was the same guy that played the mob guy who started dating Rose, who Miles was running from.

The Cheese Man. His episode of (America's Most Wanted?) got the highest ratings evah.... EVAH!!!

And Liza’s dad in Arthur.

Anna Craig from OLTL was the first Gloria. Bert Convey shopped at the same grocery store as Gloria.

Yeah, you remember Gloria, she's my pretty daughter...

^ No one in your family is pretty SP.

All are ugly ducklings crapping on everything including pizzerias.

^ Thuy, thuy....a Sicilian curse on you, Sy!

May you get as many boils on your butt as your wife has warts on her face!

How far should we pull back?

How do you feel about Cleveland?

Knock it off.

In the book Golden Girls Forever, it is mentioned that Bea broke down crying at the reading table during Season 2 or 3 and said "You've been calling me a man for the past 70 shows!" She then threatened to quit the show. The male writers were idiots. Everyone knew what Bea looked like and the way she sounded. Why hire her to play Dorothy if all you're going to do is insult her? She seemed like a very reserved hyper sensitive and insecure woman. She also had an alcohol problem and people don't start drinking because they're happy. No wonder she took out her frustrations on Betty White who wasn't getting insulted by the writers, only her character was and Betty was cute, bubbly, full of energy and extroverted.

Only Betty Bacall could have made the Golden Girls a better show

You’re a pal and a confidante

Say that to me all you want, r438, but don’t expect the biggest gift to be from me.

I’m broke.

I want to buy you a gift but I don’t have any $

I’ll use nature’s credit card.

How about a hand job?

Rue got plenty insulted about her weight - and that was her. Although she and Betty were pretty much the same size. She escaped unscathed, the only “personal” jokes she got were about her hair, which she always joked about herself.

Betty White was retarded and a tranny. She was really a man.

What medication was Rue on in season 2 that made her balloon up?

It’s called a “pick up of your series, so steady work” diet.

Bea was a handsome, distinguished woman. She carried herself with poise and dignity. The writers were very callous. I’m glad she made an issue of it, because it is was terribly hurtful and insensitive.

Betty Bacall as Dorothy

Olivia De Haviland as Rose

Ann-Margaret as Blanche

Phyllis Diller as Sophia

Bea was a handsome, distinguished man. He carried himself with poise and dignity. There, fixed it.

He was the only star of that unfunny show. When he left, it was tits up.

Bea Arthur was one of the most talented Golden Girls ever. She also had a lot of pain and struggle throughout her life. Despite that, she had a good heart, which is hard to encounter in Hollywood. At a time when gay people were oppressed beyond belief, they identified with her struggles and she theirs.

She should have had 2 Emmys for Maude and another Tony for her one-woman show.

Bea shit on Betty’s dressing room floor. Not cool.

R450 that sounds like something you would do

The Golden Girls set always seems to breath peace and make one forget the world and its sad turmoils.

Oh r452 I agree. The whole show is soothing

I agree too. It’a like comfort food for the soul.

(OMG, I sound like a frau!)

[quote] always seems to breath peace

Oh, dear!

R451 couldn't shit on anyone's floor since homeless men don't eat.

R456 did you have a bad life?

The last season is on now Blanche looks GREAT.

I know she lost a shitton of weight did she get a facelift too? And dermabrasion?

R452 I remember distinctly getting hooked on them in the summer of 2020. Race riots, cop murders, a pandemic where people where dying all over the place.....but I had my Golden Girls and some hot cocoa and it made the world ok. I'll never forget it.

Yeah, Rue did look great in that last season.

Rue should have, at the very least, been Emmy nominated for season 6's episode where George "returns", then season 7 for "Journey To The Centre Of Attention" or the episode "he made me feel like a lady". Betty White was nominated instead for phoning it in.

[quote]Yeah, Rue did look great in that last season.

And she never had to wear Bea Arthur's wedding dress.

Betty's performance was the most one note across the series. She was also the least believable of the characters and the least funny. Why did the bitch keep getting nominated? Whom was she blowing in the Academy?

[quote]Betty's performance was the most one note across the series.

More one-note than Estelle Getty? All the characters in "The Golden Girls" were one-note, which is what I found tiresome about the series after a while, but I blame the writers for that. Yeah, yeah, we get it. Blanche is a slut and Rose is stupid. And Sophia is a one-liner machine in a cheap wig.

R464 bollocks, Rue and Bea added a lot of depth to their characters over the years. When Betty tried for deeper emotion she sometimes came over as shrill (pill addiction, Charlie's will, being jobless)

The strangeness of the Golden Girls... Bea was dumped by her husband Gene Saks after 30 years of marriage for a younger, blonde woman. Bea played Dorothy, a woman dumped by her husband Stan after 38 years of marriage for a younger, blonde woman. Betty lost her husband Allen Ludden in 1981. Betty played Rose who had lost her husband Charlie. Rue was married five times and loved the company of men. Rue played Blanche who although only married once, was a man-chasing nympho. Estelle gradually lost her memory and eventually died from Lewy Body Dementia in 2008. Estelle played Sophia, an elderly woman who often had memory problems. There was even an episode in season 5 called "Clinton Avenue Memoirs" about Dorothy being concerned that her mother is gradually losing her memory. Coincidences?

Funny Betty White & Estelle Getty interview. They seemed to get along very well.

r465 Estelle had her moments, too... such as when Sophia's son died and her shame over his crossdressing or episodes where she had to confront issues worse than for her might be worse than death. Some of the lighter episodes weren't too bad such as when she competed with Blanche for a man's affection or believed she was an activities director. Unfortunately, they were far fewer and didn't delve too deeply. . . the writers seemed to have the most trouble with progressing her as a character rather than a plot device and writing for a more complex generation of a stiff upper lip or drawing greater contrast of being generations apart from the household and not fully in control or independent. It's a shame really considering the number of films at the time became popular with her character's age group in mind. . . it's not as if they didn't have resources to draw inspiration from.

R468 I agree Estelle could be effective when given good material but unfortunately when she had more lines to say (instead of short one-liners) it exposed how much she struggled with delivery.

That said, some of the things they had her doing in later seasons, like jumping off a roof into hay or delighting in making Rose think she was channeling Charlie made the character repellent.

Agreed r469. Sofia was a mean assed troll.

Thanks for that link, r467. I’ve never seen that and enjoyed it.

Sofia’s pussy stunk!

R472 Like you would know. You were sniffing other holes.

I saw the first season episode today where Blanche's 20 year-old slutty niece visits. I can't imagine who hired the actress who played the chick. She was ok acting-wise I suppose but she just wasn't very appealing, and the horrible short 80s do did her no favors.

R474 wasn't that the point? She was an ugly child who realised as an adult she could get men by being easy and available, not by being a knockout.

yep 475.....you could smell the slut from her from 20 miles...men respond to that. As a straight frau, I have seen many homelier looking girls getting dick over prettier ones because they either reek of slut or are homely, therefore less challenging/intimidating.

Rue McLanahan was no looker herself. One of my ex friends hated her for a million reasons and thought she was truly the ugliest thing to fall out of a cunt. I never felt she was that ugly but she was indeed ugly. It makes sense that her ugly niece would be just as much of a slut as her ugly aunt.

Your friend never laid eyes on Fran Lebowtiz? Now that's ugly.

You mean Man Lebowitz. Now that is a super masculine dude. I have never heard of him.

Rue was hardly ugly, she was actually very pretty.

Ugly can be pretty, and pretty can be ugly: these two are not exactly contradictory.

R480 is the ugliest cunt on the planet. Only ugly wenches think other ugly wenches are "beautiful". Rue looked absolutely fucking horrible in the last ten years of her life. Her ugliness really shined through.

I watched a couple of episodes from the last season the other day, why did they change the Dorothy character so much? In the beginning she was a strong and confident woman, in season 7 she was all giggly (the episode with Mr Malcolm) and was too afraid to go into a bar in case nobody spoke to her (rusty anchor). And jeez, what did they do to her hair, makeup and wardrobe? It’s like she was given a TV breakfast show makeover that she’d won in a competition.

R482 fuck off you nasty piece of shit, you seem obsessed with ugliness. Shall we take guesses on why that might be?

R483 She wanted to appear more feminine & less like a linebacker on steroids duh!!!

R484 is the ugliest cunt to ever live. You fuck off, wench.

R486 eat dirt and die, trash!

Girls, girls! You're both ugly!

Rue was actually strikingly pretty when she was young. She totally sold Blanche as a self-absorbed former beauty

Why did Bea's voice get much deeper with age? I was listening on youtube to her one woman show on Broadway and she really sounded like a man. I always thought she had a deep voice but there was still some femininity to it. It got deeper towards the end of Golden Girls. During the Broadway show, she shared a piece of the Three Penny Opera she did when she was young and she had a beautiful singing voice. Not deep at all. Very nice, warm and sensual. I heard that she had goiters removed when she got older so maybe it was hormonal?

[quote]Why did Bea's voice get much deeper with age?

Unfiltered Chesterfields. And I oughta know.

Entertainment Tonight's: Remembering Betty White.

Check out 1:23.

From an interview in 1988, Betty made a joke about turning GG into The Betty White Show and Bea wasn't laughing.

The tension had begun. lol

This is what caused the infamous Bea shitting in Betty's trailer incident. Right after this interview, Bea asked her assistant to make a huge Taco Bell run and to get her a large coffee. With cream.

R493 LOL!

My new boyfriend’s last name is Zbornak! I thought he was BSing me but it really it! I’m proud to date him because of it. My fave character is Dorothy.

How long is his Zbornie?

It’s just my size, r496

As soon as he falls asleep, you should “grab that dough” from his wallet and then hightail it out of state.

Jeffrey Tambour pissed off Bea Arthur when he appeared on GG, but he doesn't know why. The mystery of why Bea got mad at people for no reason continues...

Bea was just a miserable old cunt. Plain and simple.

Bea was a dude trapped in a vag's body. She clearly loathed her vagina.

[quote]Jeffrey Tambour pissed off Bea Arthur when he appeared on GG, but he doesn't know why. The mystery of why Bea got mad at people for no reason continues...

Maybe because he told 1) she's no spring chicken in case she hadn't noticed and 2) it could be.... "functional!"

I love how he was like “I killed it at the reading and Bea was jealous.” That episode just sucked all around so whatever.

He was 10x funnier in his approximately 200 Three’s Company appearances.

[quote] That episode just sucked all around so whatever.

Words can't express what I have to say. What I went through... I can't do this on Datalounge... but I will. I was sick and scared. I wrote about it and you dismissed me. You didn't have the answer and instead of saying 'I'm sorry, I didn't like the episode because...' you made me feel crazy like I had made it all up. YOU DISMISSED ME! You made me feel like a child, a fool. A neurotic who was wasting your precious time. No one deserves that kind of treatment, R503. No one. I suspect had I been a straight man, I might have been taken a little bit more seriously. I don't know where you queens lose your humanity but boy do you lose it. If all of you at the beginning of your posting history could get very sick and very scared for a while, you'd probably learn more from that than anything else. Someday, R503, you're going to be on the other end of the post and as angry as I am and as ANGRY as I always will be, I still wish you a better replier than you were to me.

R504 stop reading from the fucking cue cards you hysterical twat!

R504 that was her monologue to Dr. Budd, not Jeffrey Tambour's Dr who told her she may be "functional."

R506 extrapolate a little, hun.

Too many fuck ups on the dl to care

Let me tell you something, Mr. 100% Tip-top Mental: r503 may be no spring chicken and her jaw might crack when she chews…

R509 whatever bitch , you couldn’t remember lines by that point either.

I realize that, R506/Fun Police. Why don't you go to The Mortimor Club by yourself, hm?

Because I'm currently too busy pointing out when cashiers under-charge my roommates at the supermarket.

And misspelling your own name.

It’s a pepperoni.

It’s obnoxious.

[quote]And misspelling your own name.

Dr. Jerry : Is your last name difficult to spell?

Rose : Yes. But I'm getting better at it.

The Golden Girls Musical on the John Larroquette Show. Pretty damn funny.

The older Asian guy who was one of Dorothy’s students appeared in a different episode. The show really did recycle guest stars.

They most certainly did not, R517!

Why did the writers create some scenes with lesbian tension between Dorothy and Blanche? The Lesbian Lovers of Miami episode. Another one where Blanche has a dream that her husband is still alive and when she wakes up, Dorothy gets into bed with her to comfort her. Rose and Sophia enter the room and Sophia says "Oh no, it's Dorothy! She takes one tennis lesson!" Of course implying that something is going on between Dorothy and Blanche. Another time, Blanche and Dorothy are sitting on the couch and Blanche shows Dorothy how she seduces men. So she puts her arm around Dorothy and gently and sensually blows in her left ear. Sophia catches them and says something which I don't remember but it has to do with lesbianism. Another one is when Dorothy confesses to Blanche that she's developped an attraction to someone and Blanche automatically assumes that it's her but it's actually Stan. I'm sure there are other examples but I wondered why they did that? Was it the same on Maude? I never watched that show.

Yeah it was the same on Maude. There were actually a few scenes of explicit scissoring with Maude and Viv. The ep where Maude finger-banged Florida was just a stunt to get Esther Rolle a spin-off; I don’t think it should count as them trying to make Bea seem like a lez.

Maude & Vivian.

Which of them had the most hairy pussy? I guess Rose

Sophia R522. She was the only one not having sex. The hair was probably down to her knees.

R522 R523 well she said she can't reach her vetugenfluken.

Sophia did have sex a few times on the show although I doubt those old coots brought her to orgasm like Sal did back in the 20s.

I watched an ep last night where Rose said the best sex she ever had was when Charlie died. He said "Rose I'm going" instead of "Rose I'm cumming".

These women had wild power bushes.

I think Blanche had a neat landing strip and shaved the rest.

R521 You forgot the time on the train to St Olaf (or St Gustav , whatever) where Blanche says “Dor-o-thy I love you as a friend but I think I’ll pass.”

Which episode was that R528?

R529 where Rose accepts the St. Olaf award.

Rose should never had won that St Olaf award

Yokel Hero season 4 R530.

Sophia’s pussy stunk!

Sophia had permed her pubes

I hated Big Daddy. He was a lot like my own dad.

Big Daddy was a skinny little pencil-neck. I don't know why Mammy Watkins saw in him

[quote]I hated Big Daddy.

But everybody loved Big Daddy!

Big Daddy looked like Fey Daddy to me. Both of them.

My mussy got wet………… with Rose Nylund.

Rose should have scissored with Jean the lebanese friend of Dorothy.

Rose would have brought real scissors to bed.

I'm surprised Blanche never caught or gave STD's to the various hordes of men she supposedly entertained..and who all appeared for her birthday party.

Who’s to say she didn’t? But at our age, who cares?

R542 Miss Blanche always played safe, don't you remember her speech to Rose in Season 5 episode 19 "72 Hours"?

I always felt sorry for the actress playing Blanche, in real life she did think she was beautiful.

So both Rue McClanahan and the character she played were delusional, R545?

Rue and Blanche were both the ugliest cunts to ever live. That is beyond delusional and more psychotic.

Isn’t that sort of the humor though?

Someone who is not attractive yet thinks others are “blinded by [their] beauty”?

At least they get their sight back in a few minutes.

And for the record, I thought Rue was the most attractive of the bunch.

Rue was the most attractive, a beauty when younger.

Betty had the blond hair, big tits and blue eyes but she was never anything more than pretty when younger. She was believable as a wholesome farm girl

It was on in the background as I attempted to go to sleep last night via Hallmark Channel or CMT. I thought to myself I’ve watched this forever. I’m gonna stop now.

Which episodes R550?

1991 season was on TV.

Rue was the most attractive younger, but Betty's beauty aged better. The darker hair and black and white of the tv shows also worked against her, but in color, and with blonde her she was a beat. Always thought she looked beautiful here (granted its a few years before GG)

Wow R553 she looks terrific there

Good show

Blanche didn't really have as much sex as she said

I've been watching season one in the order they originally aired and it's so jarring that the Job Hunting episode, which I believe was filmed as episode 2, didn't air until toward the end of the season. It's look is different, the different director is noticeable, the performances aren't as comfortable.

(R546) I would imagine anyone playing opposite Bea Arthur would be considered beautiful.

[quote]It's look is different,

Oh, DEAR!

Not part of GG, but Bea was one of the hosts of Circus of the Stars in 1985 and she almost has a heart attack when Willie Ames pole breaks. It starts at 1:21:33. It's funny yet sad nobody warned her about this. She must have been very embarrassed. Knowing Bea, she probably got a lot of people fired lol.

The Golden Girls rare interview 1989.

Rue should have won a second Emmy for the episode George returns or the Rusty Anchor one.

Journey To The Center Of Attention Episode. @17:32 Bea enthusiastically checks out Rue's butt. I noticed she did that too on Maude.

It was ridiculous that Betty was nominated for every season of The Golden Girls when Bea and Rue were overlooked

R564, I agree. Betty had connections.

Bea Arthur & Bob Hope in Paris. Bea looks quite dykey here but in a good way. Classy dyke chic. Very rare nowadays.

Ann Reinking should have played Blanche

Do you think Golden Girls went too far with the Scandinavian jokes? You had Rose who was a dumb woman of Scandivanian heritage from Minnesota. Her cousin Sven was an idiot. Dorothy called Rose a "Swedish Meatball" and a "Scandinavian Nitwit". Rue in the interview below also calls Rose a "wide-eyed, empty-brained, Scandinavian." I'm not sure Bea and Estelle would have been happy with a negative portrayal of Jews on the show. Scandinavians have very advanced countries and they seem to be very intelligent. Any Swedes, Danes, Norwegians or Finns here on Datalounge? Care to tell us what you think of the show's portrayal of your kind?

Picture it…. Jean and Rose having sex.

Picture it…. Sophia finger banging herself in the living room to the porn tapes she rented.

Bea acted like a scorned lover towards Betty.

You bitches are hilarious.

Miles looked ok

Some other men Rose associated herself with were so ugly. Like Dr Jonathan Newman, Buddy Rourke and Buzz.

In 1988 in between GG series Bea made a movie called My First Love. Remember one of Dorothy’s most horrific outfits, the shiny green pant suit monstrosity, she wore it with a bow tie? She wore that outfit throughout the run of the show, even in the final series when she visited the Rusty Anchor.

Well Bea must have really loved that outfit as she took it to wear in the film. Of all the clothes she had at her disposal she took that suit, and then took it back to the Golden Girls set toe wear for a few more years.

R574 She also wore that suit to an awards show. I don't remember which one but she was sitting next to Estelle and Rue.