Gay Guys, Have you ever found an FTM attractive?

No. They are all midget bears.

Laith Ashley. He's 5'11" and gorgeous.

I doubt I could sleep with someone who has no dick, but otherwise he's stunning.

God yes.

Females to males are so handsome, usually. Yet, I could never have sex with them. Their genitalia, or rather the lack there of, is not appealing to me.

Some of them are attractive, but I’m not into male looking with a vag. I will say this, they are no where close to being the insufferable train wrecks that MTF are.

Not without a dick.

This Laith person…do they sleep with men or women?

They can look good in pictures. But it's hard not to notice all their female characteristics in person.

[quote] This Laith person…do they sleep with men or women?

Women, though I do not know if that means cis-women or MTF women or both.

Did Laith ever get a career out of the publicity? I remember Laith saying that despite getting media coverage and magazine covers there was no real money coming in for any of it. I don't think the show produced by Whoopi went anywhere either.

I think that the bottom line is that whether straight, bi, or gay, everyone probably prefers having sex with people who have their original package in tact, matching the rest of the body accordingly.

I agree, many FTM are very good looking indeed. I just cannot live without the penis.

A human being who has a pussy is a woman, no matter how short their hair is.

Any man who finds pussy attractive is bisexual, not gay.

One of the hottest (and hairiest) men I've ever seen or been around. Hot hot hot, and oozed sex. A friend of friends.

A few months later, a mutual friend explained that he was FTM. I had NO clue. No clues from his body shape nor his features.

He's still one of the hottest men I've been around.

He's the reason I ponder what I would do if that opportunity presented itself.

Ewwww

R11

You’re a delusional hater. FTMs are incredibly popular on Twitter. Tons of people want to fuck them.

They get to use testosterone (a steroid) which is a key to looking so masculine

R16, don't be so hard on R11.

I do think some people are actually afraid of what might be down there after surgery. Especially the FtM bottom surgeries.

I saw this video compilation of trans people talking about surgery complications. Seems it is fairly common and there is disappointment with the outcome. Some of them have to do revisions.

If they don't come with a dick, they don't do the trick.

Laith is a lesbian who came from a homophobic family and internalised the homophobia. She could have been a happy lesbian, now is a mess whose idiotic breast amputation scars are photoshopped out of photos.

[quote] trans people talking about surgery complications. Seems it is fairly common and there is disappointment with the outcome.

Both kinds of “bottom surgery” are barbaric, and should be avoided by all. Unfortunately, trans cheerleaders on social media spread the lie that “not even a doctor can tell” the difference from the real thing.

I responded upthread that I found many FTM attractive. I think its because I generally prefer smaller framed men with less pronounced/male, but softer features.

FTMs aren't men, though, r22.

Dude, we already have multiple threads on this. Why another?

Elliot Fletcher is hot.

Please, can you all couple off with them and remove yourself from the community so we can evolve without you

Is there a tranny spamming DL? What's with these homophobic threads asking if gay men find women sexually attractive?

R14, I understand your fascination.

Here’s the bottom line:

Pussy and ass feel different, so I’ve been told. But what makes pussy so inviting us that it gets super wet, and if the pussy owner knows what they’re doing, a pussy can grip a cock like no one’s business.

Try it. You might like it. Who knows? But regardless of how amazing a pussy may be if the owner knows how to use it, it is not ass, and if you’re into ass, it’s probably not gonna work out for a long term hook up situation. Ass can grip cock tightly too, so why not just pursue what you already know and like?

Is it true that FTMs have a mini-penis like shown here in the video?

They are all short.

[quote] You’re a delusional hater. FTMs are incredibly popular on Twitter. Tons of people want to fuck them.

Spotted the angry Aiden.

What's weird is a lot of them, and not to be rude are actually passable.

Some of them can appear facially handsome.

Most of them don't truly pass, outside of well choreographed vanity photos online.

I'm not sexually attracted to female anatomy or female bodies. FTMs may function socially as men but they are not MALES. Male is an objective biological category.

In order for someone to be sexually attractive to me, they have to be biologically male with male secondary sex characteristics and male gender presentation. FTMs therefore are not for me, sexually.

Here's Armstrong's photo, oddly I think he's gay 4 pay.

No. Bearded women are still women, and R16 is a delusional tranny. No one wants your saggy pussy dyke.

Ah yes R16 cause the bubble that is twitter represents reality. Dumb ass twitter is not the real world.

I've been thinking about fucking one. I might give it a try.

Trans are mentally ill and should be institutionalized.

They are usually too feminine and I can't unsee it. The whole thing is uncanny, it creeps me out the same way extreme plastic surgery does.

R37 Sure jan

I've definitely seen some hot guys on the apps and then when I read their bio...FTM.

Good luck to them, but no dick, no way for me.

I don't mind his pussy.

No one will change what you like.

I like them if they are hot, hairy, short and masculine with no tragic tattoos.

I love ones who look like Laith Ashley or muscled athletes

The trans storyline in TALES OF THE CITY really threw me. The lesbian-come-transman realized that they were actually attracted to men, leaving the lesbian girlfriend out in the cold. I guess that you can look at it as people just being attracted to people but still…but the character is a good person. But treated their girlfriend like 💩.

Sure, Jans.

Sure.

OP = The Janniest Jan of them all

I have clicked on some hot looking guys on Chaturbate and discovered that they were FTM upon closer inspection (no dick). Many of them could easily pass for a hot guy or even just a regular looking guy. I don't find them sexually attractive because I really do need to see a dick and balls. Some have impressively large clits, they look like mini penises without balls.

Nope. Never. Not a chance.

Lots are good looking but I'm not attracted to any of them as I'm gay.

There are a few that look like men, just not the types of men I'm attracted to.

Of course not, OP. I like real men, with real dicks.

They can fool the eyes occasionally (much more than the M2Fs) but that is rare and still wouldn't make me have sex with one, because I am a HOMOSEXUAL, meaning same SEX attracted, not same GENDER attracted.

Those of you who say you'd have sex with a F2M (and who actually would, assuming you aren't just saying it for social validation) have some bisexual tendencies, cause you aren't gay.

I've seen a lot of hot FTM guys... sexy as hell until the pants come off. Lack of a penis is a deal-breaker, sorry. I don't care how sexy the rest of the body is.

I love reading Buck Angel on Twitter. He’s always slapping down the transloons.

Buck's a traditional transgender, one who knows they're really a woman but wants to live as the opposite sex.

The ones who need the constant validation and affirmation seem to be the M2Fs, and 92% of them have not had any surgery whatsoever. They are literally just men in dresses.

R54 No one cares troon.

I’m definitely attracted to MEN but I can also get turned on to a Trans guy with a PUSSY. I’ve downloaded several photos of naked Trans guys and their pussies. I’ve considered myself gay for many years- does this mean I’m slightly bi?

Bonadouchebag fucked Buck Angel

F2Ms pussies dry up because of the T, look up atrophied vaginas. Laith looks much more female in person.

Short, scarred chests with weird nipple placements, small hands and feet, helium voices and a woman’s shape. In person most of them are pretty clockable.

F2F have a very short shelf life of being handsome . Testosterone starts to speed up the aging process with male pattern baldness, weight gain, body acne, etc…

Do MTFs and FTMs ever get together?

Also this is anecdotal but butch lesbians are more masculine then trans men. A lot of transmen I’ve seen try way to hard to be masculine/male but butch just are and are comfortable in their skin. The way they stand, speak and interact is more masculine and authentic then the F2M’s who use extreme stereotypes of what they think a man is.

This police officer from Brazil, who died a couple of weeks ago was kind of cute.

With teams of stylists, lighting designers, and photographers, anything is possible. But in real life, they almost never pass.

See: Laith Ashley

Why are their mastectomy scars so prominent, breast reduction surgeries don't scar like that, and they're much more complex?

From that to this

R57 yes, you're bi. Homosexuality is the attraction to the same sex. Trans-identifying females are still female.

R2 until seen in person.

Some FTMs may pass in photos, but once you hear their voice or see their mannerisms, you can tell. It's hard to get rid of that female socialization.

There is a prominent FTM in my city. She went from a cute butch to an old, bald man, and she's only in her 40s. If it ages them on the outside what is it doing to them internally? I wonder what is going to happen to women like Ash Hardell, who is 29 and looks like a boy. You can't look boyish forever. Similarly, MTFs like Gigi Gorgeous can't look like bombshells forever.

I'm a gay man and have found many FTMs very attractive. But it just doesn't work for me. I find three types of attraction: one is physical, but more important are, for wont of a better term, "spiritual," in that I want to be with a man who is a man in the same way I am; and sexual--I'm am very biased as far as parts are concerned--plain old male genitals are fine with me, no matter the configuration, but I'm just not wired for sex with female parts.

R69 bigotry.

R16 I have never said that there aren' t straight or bi men who are into them.

Just not gay men.

But isn’t it then “bigotry” of straight men not to want to have sex with another man?

R71- I've considered myself GAY for many years and but I am turned on by lookin at photos of naked trans men with PUSSIES does that mean I'm not gay but bi or bi curious?

Absolutely not.

Laith came out as asexual a while back, if I recall correctly. Seems to be a trend for a lot of the 'straight' ones

I definitely would date FTMs

R76 You hetero hunk!

Nope because FTMs are girls and will always just be girls. No gay guy wants to fuck a cunt.

1: They can sometimes pass, facially. Although not commonly.

2: They rarely pass, bodily. The stature and proportions are rarely right.

3: They never, ever pass naked.

And since I'm homosexual that means even if we get to stage three with no problems, sex aint going to happen.

R75, Laith is a fucked-up lesbian. Of course she's asexual now, after ruining her female body. No woman would want her. Did she really believe that straight women would fall for her, so she could have relationships with women as a straight "man" and not as a lesbian?

No never.

R28 - why not go around telling straight men they might like fucking another man's ass and they should "try it - they might like it" and see how far you get.

R78- I'm a gay guy and I wouldn't mind fucking a GUY with a pussy.

R82 Sorry to disappoint you, but a GUY can not have a pussy. Even if he calls his asshole so.

R83- I wouldn't mind fucking a TRANS guy with his REAL pussy- is that better?

90 - Percentage of DLers who self-identify as bottoms.

So there's nothing in it for them, OP.

They can look ok in pictures, but in reality they never ever pass. I saw one in the airport the other day and I couldn’t help staring. He/she had the usual small height, chubby body, lots of stubble, hips and a voice that was somewhere between male and female.

Porn star Trip Richards. He’s hot.

My understanding is that few of them are actually into gay men--they became men so they could have sex with women.

Plus too many of them have very visible scars from the breast removal.

There are exceptions though.

R85 Why does it matter who is bottom. Do you think that if someone is top, he is straight or bisexual?

R87 Gross. You can always tell they are just girls even with all that crap.

Really r87, you really think everyone can tell this is a woman?

No, really not R91. I never met one in life, either. But, when you get naked and eventually you, what then. A shock could happen like the one in the Crying game.

R88 Your understanding is wrong.

It's OK to be bisexual. And that's what you are, if you are aroused by vaginas (and other permanent female secondary sex characteristics like wide hips etc).

I've masturbated to Laith Ashley shirtless.

[quote] Really [R87], you really think everyone can tell this is a woman?

Once all the clothes came off? Yep.

I usually can tell right away. It's something in the face and like someone upthread said, creepy.

Masturbating to heavily airbrushed, carefully lit and styled shirtless photos is still gay, because what you are looking at is a carefully crafted illusion of maleness, and not the reality.

Two words that should not ever be associated with gay porn, Faked Orgasms, and you know the FTMs are doing a lot of faking.

Usually they filter the shit out of their pics online and when you see them in person, they look 100% like a woman.

Regardless, there's no dick and never will be a dick so I won't ever be interested.

It is fascinating how many of you are seriously triggered by the existence of FTMs, a few of whom actually look like convincing men.

Why?

Is it a bottom thing?

R101, the key words are "look like". Not the same as "are"

At what point do you think they look convincing?

In the self curated online photos, or when they're naked in your bed?

I'm sure there are plenty of virtue signallers on twitter and instagram who say they would want to fuck one, but social media platforms are not reality.

There are hundreds of people saying Tammy Slaton is gorgeous and fuckable on her insta comments, but she quite obviously isn't. People will do anything to look virtuous online.

Don't know any gay guy in real life (i.e. far far FAR away from Twitter), who is currently (or formerly) dating/fucking/married to one. The ones I know of or am friends with (that I can count on one hand) were former lesbians, not all of them butch, and didn't switch from women to men after transition.

Just because 'gay' porn stars and drag queens are raving about the strangulated voices, titty scars and atrophied pussies, it doesn't mean that it's catching on with the rest of us.

Popularity within a social media economy built on intersectionality points doesn't equal popularity in the bedroom.

I'd love to be friends with a nice transman, and I'm more than happy to "validate their gender identity" in social contexts, but sex is absolutely not ever going to happen. That's got nothing to do with hate, fear or disrespect and everything to do with what kind of body is arousing for a homosexual.

Very attractive and sexy! What puzzles me why can't they attached a penis where the vagina is? They transplant hearts, hands and other body parts why not a penis/

Because severed nerve endings mean it will never be a functioning penis, and attaching foreign tissue means a lifetime of hellish drugs to suppress immune rejection.

Give it up wannabe! You'll NEVER know what it's like to have a fat real juicy dick and to shoot tasty cum out of it! Keep dreaming fish fry. 🤣 Stop letting them in our spaces!

If they made those twitter/tiktok/insta comments legally binding, probably Tammy Slaton would still get them from chubby chasers. The FTM/MTF comments sections would be *crickets*

R101 Why do you think that not being into FtM is a bottom thing? You think tops are not real gay men? That they are inherently bisexual? Or confused straight?

What about verse guys or the ones that are not into anal?

I think that what defines all gay men (not bisexual, but gay) no matter the preferred position in anal sex is the same sex attraction. Because if a gay guy prefers to top, he still wants to have sex with a man. And probably likes to give blow jobs, touch the cock etc. At least see the cock. If he is indifferent to partner's genitalia, then he is a bisexual, pansexual and what else do they call them these days. Why would we even call gay a guy who is not into cock?

Save your breath. People who insult gay men for not wanting sex with FTMs are invariably either female or bisexuals.

Gay men survived and thrived until now by not caring what non-gay people thought about us. It's time again to return to that mentality instead of the accomodating shit we are now mired in.

Bi scums!🤮🤮🤮

R101 Wrong. No FTM has ever looked passable as a man. It is not possible.

I've found a few FTM attractive - Laith Ashley (although I'm interested in what people have said that in real life he looks a lot different - I've never seen him, only in photos, but I think he's hot) Trip Richards I also think is sexy, and also this guy Paulo Batista.

Would be interested to know from someone like R114 if they genuinely think that most people would not consider him passable as a man. I don't think anyone, aside from those inspecting his genitals, would even question that he's a man.

R115 LOL. Fuck off. You cannot change genetics with a few shots of hormones. That is a fucking girl and anyone could tell.

Why do they all have such fucking horrible tattoos?

R115 Who, Keith Richards? He was a sexy fellow back in the day.

Queef Richards has never been sexy. Fucking maggot has been around since the literal dinosaurs.

But in the times of dinosaurs he was hot.

Well, R119, at least he had a dick.

If you were to meet that woman in real life, yes, r91. A highly touched up and stylised photograph, shot from specific angles, can absolutely be manipulated to give a certain impression. And still that "man" looks a little strange.

R119- I call them the Rolling SKANKS

Our jokes might be a bit cruel, as jokes usually are, but I really do feel respect and wish the FtM well. Honestly, I do. I know it is not easy. If they feel this is the right way, it should be respected and accepted. I would only prohibit any such treatment on the underage persons. You must be an adult to make such a life changing decision.

Some of these people on pics look like men, even though,(and I am not sure if it is suggestion, since I know who they are) there is something unusual about them. Some have traits like small hands and feet and the shape of hands and feet that are feminine. But, ok, neither all biological men have the perfect masculine traits.

I believe that they can act in a "masculine" way and in many patriarchal societies and communities women are frequently the stronger sex, anyway.

I would always be on their side, but there is just one thing that I resent. And I believe it is crazy minority that is pushing it, while the majority are normal people minding their own business. It is the demand to be accepted as sexual partners of gay men. It is silly because the definition of a gay men is that he is attracted to another men, with male parts. And we all know which is considered to be the most important male body part. And this Y chromosome is not chopped liver either. It gives the guy something that defines him.

I have never heard that trans men who are into women (I suppose they make the majority of trans men) are demanding straight women to accept them as sexual partners.

I feel sorry for them. They are shortening their lifespans with testosterone and going for the quick fix rather than getting the therapy they need.

R124

[quote] I have never heard that trans men who are into women (I suppose they make the majority of trans men) are demanding straight women to accept them as sexual partners.

There are some, but it's more often than not trans men approaching gay men as many are straight.

R112 Hear! Hear! 🍻

R126 I think that people give themselves more liberties with gay men and lesbians than with straight people. There could be an aggressive reaction from straight people if trans people made similar demands on them.

The one FtM I ever found attractive turned out to be gay for pay. Lol

[quote]Why do they all have such fucking horrible tattoos?

Because that's part and parcel of being "MASCULINE", R117.

The really young FTMs seem to think that all it takes is to wear hoodies and sweatpants every day, and - of course - wearing a baseball cap. Which must be backwards.

Don't forget the glassy black eyes and dour expression, r130

Same with the MTF. They think lipstick, heels, and dress equates womanhood. My sister despises it and talks about that all the time.

Why are you so angry, aggressive and hateful R116? You seem very triggered.

I also don't believe you that the vast majority of people would look at a photo of that man and immediately assume he was born female. I think you know that too, unless you're truly deluded, but it doesn't fit in with your narrative/worldview I guess. You seem to want to be right, so off you go with your hatred and I hope you find peace.

R133 You are either blind or a retard. Probably both. Stupid cunt.

People like you who are unable to function in civilised society are not worth a second more of my time R134 - other than to make you aware you're now blocked so I don't need to pay you any further attention. I hope you get some help.

Shriek!

[quote]I also don't believe you that the vast majority of people would look at a photo of that man and immediately assume he was born female.

I'm pretty sure r133 that anyone who saw that woman in real life - even you - would easily be able to tell that she's a woman and not a man. Photoshop and a staged shot can indeed give a fake impression, but even from that photo it's still an odd-looking "man". That's because she isn't a man.

Laith Ashley's photos are all hugely photoshopped. On some photos the scars from where she stupidly had her breasts removed can still be seen, which just shows how much photoshop has gone into the other photos where she supposedly looks like a "hot guy". Lol at the idea that a gay man will find what's in Laith's pants hot.

Laith - who is a lesbian - has spoken about her homophobic background. Internalised homophobia and misogyny are the reasons why she transitioned. At least she's given up on pretending to be a guy and is now just "trans" and "asexual". That's a lesbian who ruined her body and her life because she hated the idea of being a lesbian that some of you are praising. But keep on propping up the homophobia and then claim you're fighting bigotry and standing up for "LGBTQ+ rights".

Most straight people I know just assume gays are 100% in support of trans, because we are all part of the same acronym. When I try and point out that's not the case, they don't believe me.

LGB all the way.

G here.

Fetishistic cross dressing middle aged straight men align with resentful bitter Marxist lesbians in academia to play bullshit semantic games with gender and teenage girls get used as the cannon fodder in this game. Always prone to waves of hysteria, body hatred and self mutilation, the teen girls cut themselves up and the pervy old men get their fetish validated.

Datalounge: all trans, ALL THE TIME

Here's a video of Marco Marco's all-trans fashion show. Some are breastless, some are caked in makeup, but it's easy to see who is a woman and who is a man, regardless of how they identify. (Feat. Laith Ashley).

OMG. I’ve fucked a couple of them. No, their ginnies aren’t dry or “atrophied.” Yes, they have enlarged clits.

Congratulations on your bisexuality.

Stay pressed, R145.

Stay bisexual.

The bisexual hater trolls need to die in a grease fire. Nobody needs your sub-Linnean prescriptive bullshit about what other people should be doing with their junk to get in your secret treehouse or pillow fort or whatever club you are running.

Go eat a guy's vagina.

I went up to a hot "guy" once, then I heard her munchkin voice. It was a total turnoff.

I guess it's the same thing when straight guys see a hot "chick". They're mesmerized by her legs, ass and tits but she opens her mouth and that low voice comes out.

More women on this board policing gay male sexuality. It really is the obsession that will never die.

Gay men do not find female bodies attractive.

Transmen may perform masculinity in social roles but they are not males. Get it through your skulls; gay men do not find females sexually attractive.

There's no problem with gay men swarming boards belonging to lesbians, FTMs or women generally, and policing their sexualities. It just does not happen. Learn from this and FUCK OFF.

I don't find femininity erotic, and at the core of every FTM is a tiny nugget of female. You just can't erase it.

Maybe gay guys with a stronger sex drive than I would find it passable. Or bi guys who like that sort of thing.

R152 has met every FTM? Nice.

Why don't you listen? Stop making demands, stop disrespecting people's boundaries, and just listen.

Someone hurt you. Didn't they, sweet little bisexuality troll?

I just fucked one last week. Pussy felt smooth and wet. I even liked eating pussy. Because of all the hormones, the clit is like a tiny penis. I made him/her come 6 or 7 times.

And before you say anything, I am a big homo.

Just go away R156, there must be some bi message board you could be haunting.

Calling a gay guy bi is literal violence.

No you didn’t r33. Unless you were eating her discharge, piss and lube. Snatch dries up from testosterone.

I mean r156.

The thing about Laith Ashley is that he was already a pretty female with a pretty face. So, I guess the hormones just turned a pretty girl into a pretty boy.

My god, I hope insurance starts paying for sex reassignment surgeries and hormones. I'll gladly pay extra just so these creatures aren't swanning around calling themselves 'They'.

You can't legally be a man til the tits are gone and they turn your vadge into a dick and balls.

A lot of them are cute and pleasing to look at. I've yet to see a handsome one. Sexually, not so much. I want a real working dick. I find some trans women stunning too especially the models. DL's obsession with trans is disturbing. I'm a gay dude and I never think of anything trans-related until a DLer makes a thread or brings up the topic

[quote]Do MTFs and FTMs ever get together?

Yeeeep.

And another...

I don’t understand all the trans hate on this board. It’s absolutely puzzling. Have you ever met a trans person? Do you even know any trans people?

Sometimes, pre-transition, trans people (and I’m wildly generalizing) can come off as awkward, unlikeable, or even downright irritating. They they begin transitions and all the things that bugged you before suddenly become their strengths. It’s amazing to see them become comfortable and confident and feel safe. Being stuck in the wrong body makes them stick out like a sore thumb. It’s just so obvious they were meant to be a different gender.

And I fucking hate, DESPISE, anyone that would deprive them of their confidence or feelings of safety. Say anything nasty towards them and we’re gonna fight.

Go dilate r166!

Go fuck yourself r167.

I don't have a problem with transpeople.

I'll use their pronouns and treat them with kindness and respect. I'd be happy to be their friend. I will defend them if they are abused while I'm present

I won't sleep with them though, because I'm a homosexual man who needs parters who are both biologically male AND male in their gender presentation in order for me to become aroused. This is not up for negotiation or "debate". I'm not open to gaslighting, manipulation or abuse on this either.

It's the crazy trans fringe who feel my sexuality should be redefined to suit their self perception who anger me and a lot of other people here. The ones who post online voicing their entitlement to sex, and even threatening to assault gay men and lesbians who refuse sex, do profound damage.

They might be a minority but they do exist and they are loud. Let's not pretend they don't exist, let's not pretend they aren't doing major damage.

R168 shits out his coloncunt.

I've been DM'd by trans men on Grindr. I ignore them, just like anyone else I'm not into. I don't say anything mean or rude, I just ignore them. Nothing bad's ever happened to me.

Transgenders have set themselves up to be a focus of the upcoming elections. It's going to be interesting.

Grow the fuck up, r170. You said in another thread you’d block me. Fucking do it, scat obsessed freak.

R173 you’re the one into scat, otherwise you wouldn’t have made a vagina out of your colon. Is the estrogen getting to you dear or is it the ingrown hairs in your new cooter created with you sliced, diced and Julianne’s with your micro penis?

I’m a cis-man you stupid, stupid trans obsessed FUCK! You have serious issues and need to talk to a therapist pronto.

What just happened?

R168 One kick of my steel toed boot to your cunt and you down, bitch.

Fuck it. Blocked it.

Trans need to accept that 99% of the time their sexual partners will be fetishists. All the online virtue signalling is just setting them up for disappointment and isn't helping anyone.

R175 There are no such things as 'cis'. Keep bullshiting yourself.

I did just go over the "gay FTM" reddit to see what they are saying about gay men.

Most of them are honest and admit their "Cis" boyfriends are bi/pan/trans. A couple of them claim to have Cis gay boyfriends. I suspect most of those are either lying or delusional.

It is interesting that they all hate so-called "chasers", ie fetishists. Why? These are the same FTMs who slam gay men for not sleeping with them and call us every horrible name under the sun, but they do the same to trans chasers.

Respect to everyone, but (to paraphrase a famous American philosopher) I like to grab them by the dick.

Sure you can see a pic of FTM and think she looks hot, but when you find out it's a woman it's a total turn off.

It's like finding someone hot and then discovering they vote Republican. See Aaron Schock for someone objectively hot, but knowing his history makes my dick wilt.

I have a slutty gay friend who fucked an FTM recently. He said it was no big deal. She was like fucking a twink. She loved it bareback so he shot in her cunt 6 times.

A "twink" with a vagina and numerous secondary sex characteristics that made it clear this wasn't a man. So yeah, a gay man was so turned on by this he came 6 times.

Bullshit.

R185 He is a slut so he'll fuck almost anything. As long as they are not fat or over 40. You are probably 80 years old, fat, stinky, and need to be carbon dated. So no one would fuck you.

And you have a vagina.

R156, cut the bullshit, if. you're muff diving you are not gay, you are pan or queer, you're sexuality is not homo, stop bullshitting people. Gays don't pussyeat or pussyfuck. You're a pussyfucker so you are now ex-gay/fakegay. Please proceed accordingly.

R144, same goes for you bisexual cunt.

R186, stop defending this anti-gay bullshit.

You motherfuckers need to stop degaying this fucking board with your damn pussy/trans obsessions. You fake fags wanna be in pussy so much, just go off and live a bisex/queer life and leave gay men the fuck alone.

R186 That's a bi-slut. Gross!

R184 / R186 is a division troll who ALSO posted these anti-FTM posts above, proving he's using both sides to stir up dissent:

[quote]Nope because FTMs are girls and will always just be girls. No gay guy wants to fuck a cunt.

[quote]R87 Gross. You can always tell they are just girls even with all that crap.

[quote]R101 Wrong. No FTM has ever looked passable as a man. It is not possible.

[quote]R115 LOL. Fuck off. You cannot change genetics with a few shots of hormones. That is a fucking girl and anyone could tell.

r189

R184 As far as I know twink is the definition of a young man, who still has a boyish figure, not yet fully grown into a mature man. You are probably a virgin girl, but if you had been with boys in more intimate situation you would know they are nothing like the girls, no matter their youth.

"I made him/her come 6 or 7 times."

😂 You guys are really too much sometimes.

We aim to please (sexually and otherwise), R193.

R192 Fuck off, cunt. Girls have been canceled by the pedo Ts. Girls don't even exist anymore.

r194 r195

R195 Cunt is in your filthy panties. You hope that some FtM will lick it, but no one could stand that smell.

The ones that connected not being into FtM with being a bottom are certainly not gay men. Cause every gay man likes to play with cock, it is his favorite toy, and if you don't give him this, he will sulk and whimper like a baby when you take its toy away.

R197 Get off the DL, revolting pedo.

R199 If you were a man I would kick your shitty ass.

R200 We are all so afraid of a limp wristed, lisping fairy. All anyone would have to do is blow on you and you would fall over and die, fucking pedo turd.

R201 You silly frau, your female intuition tells you what a big and strong macho man I am, and you are drooling thinking of me. But you can never have me and it is frustrating you.

R202 is hilarious. Pumping herself up. Thinking her lil girly arms could punch anyone. Go to sleep, pedo turd.

If you didn't think I am a big sexy hunk you wouldn't insist on writing every single post about me R203. You think I am gonna give you a pity fuck, you sissy?

Que dices, R203. You want those arms to grab you?

This whole thread is just one pedo troll talking to itself. She is even more unhinged than Jabba.

r206

Yes, two on Chaturbate, who looked very masculine in appearance (except for the snatch). But the fantasy and the attraction were short-lived.

^^^^One's name is Marcus. The other name I don't remember.

R188 Oh, this guy again. He needs the help of a mental health professional.

Yes. I also find women attractive.

Doesn’t mean I want to date or have sex with them.

Welp. You get what you deserve. The gay community openly supported the erasure of women, girls, mothers and lesbians by violently misogynistic autogynephiles due to your belief that womanhood is a costume and that women are expendable. Now the troon cult are going after gay men. Pink News doing a complete 180 on the trans cult, like Dr Adrian Harrop, after attacking "Terfs" (women) for years is going to be proper LOL!

100% yes

When you put it that way, r212, it does make it seem like the FTM infiltration of gay male spaces is less severe by comparison to the opposite. If the most you have to worry about is their presence on gay dating apps (which you can swipe past or ignore) and in porn, I'd say, gay men, on average, will be fine. If one of them touches you inappropriately, they're far more likely to be able to beat the shit out of them, bare-knuckled, and toe-to-toe.

The female spaces biological males are invading are our bathrooms, lockerrooms, prisons, and sports. There is an actual physical presence and more opportunity for sexual assault. We also can't fair as well in a toe-to-toe fight due to strength differences. Females in female prisons are being raped by AGP convicted rapists freaks suddenly identifying as women to be moved to women's prisons.

I understand the annoyance gay men have with the FTM invasion, and this is certainly a place to vent all of that frustration out. By all means, go off, because it's completely justified. But, at the end of the day, there isn't a threat to their overall safety and well-being. Again, a man can knock a female out with one hit if he has to. We, on the other hand, need a Glock 9.

Oh, and for the FTMs who are "straight," we can't fight them either if necessary. Those broads are on testosterone. It's a lose/lose situation. Just...carry, keep it lubed, clean, and visit the range often.

Go fuck off to the OK Corral or something

^ Is part of the problem.

BANG BANG PEW

R213 Bi scum.

[R4] since they don't have dicks, why are they popular with NBA players? Maybe it's because they retain their vagina? (Do they?) , but in their mind they are fu*king a hot looking dude?

[R47], I know next to nothing about trans people, so if this is a dumb question, please excuse me! Is a FTM,able to conceive? They retain their "PUSSY",don't they?

No, once the penis is "cut off& a vadge is carved out", its over for me.

However, there was a "Drag Queen Performer." in the late 90's& early 2000's at Bob& Barbara's at 15th& South sts in CC Philly (on Thursday night, was Drag night) that I had an on& off sexual affair for years. Jackson (or Jake) was a nurse and ex football player from Montana. Wonderful guy, just not attracted to him in drag. Great Drag Queen, but he fucked my FB Chad many times in Drag while I watched.