83 year old trans serial killer suspect in new dismembered body murder

This reminds me of that asshole they let off decades ago because he'd "served his time" who picked up a hitchhiker with his kindly old man schtick and then raped her and chopped both of her arms off.

Violent crims need permanent confinement, simply to prevent them preying on others.

Oh, dear.

r1, he was released after cutting the woman's arms off; she lived because he stuffed her body in a drain pipe which kept her from bleeding to death. They eventually let him out and within a short period of time he killed a prostitute. If someone is sick enough to rape, then cut her arms off they should never be released.

Will they be locking the trans woman up in a women's prison?

R3, yes. They kept letting him out.

A real example of "time served is never enough".

Yup he will go to a female prison. Those girls better watch out….old man is still a killer inside or out.

And she looks like such a nice girl.

Just the type you know you could take home to your Manson family.

Grifter just popped a wig on to declare it is trans and continued to menace women, evil never dies

He killed her to get her vagina.

Female on female crime is pretty sad.

"She" looks a lot like Lucy the Missing Link.

That's an insult, madam.

Coincidentally

Subway hammer attacker arrested: Christian Jeffers, 48, who identifies as a woman, accused of attacking an Asian man in NYC in a possible hate crime

An Asian man was attacked on Tuesday evening by an assailant in a wig and purple lipstick on the 14th Street subway platform in New York City

On Wednesday NYPD arrested Christian Jeffers, 48, who identifies as a woman, and charged them with second-degree assault

The 29-year-old victim was taken to Bellevue Hospital with head injuries, but is expected to make a full recovery

'I want to get him locked up because he was pretty aggressive,' the victim, who chose not to be identified, said. 'He was looking for trouble'

If you commit murder, you should spend the rest of your life in prison.

R14, well...as long as it's not self defense, defending others, caused primarily by mental illness of a temporary nature (hard call), or being driven to do so because the person was torturing and terrorizing you and your family and you knew no other way out of the situation (Burning Bed situation--almost lived it).

But yeah, other than that and war, I agree.

HE/HIM

Don't you fucking DARE fuck up our fucking crime stats, you fucking moron.

HE/HIM

Yes!!!!! Female prison!!!!!!

female prison= more victims

This is beyond peak trans. All this trans nonsense needs to stop now. It has gone too far and is no longer a "live and let live" situation but is being used by sick violent criminals to not only terrorize through murder of innocent men and women and the rape of children but to do commit rape and murder as a "female" offender, thus allowing violent men in women's prisons where confined women can't escape? Can you imagine the poor woman who has this man as her cellmate? That's beyond cruel and unusual. No way should this be legal or allowable.

The world is overpopulated. She's just doing the work the cissys won't.

women are dreadful but don't commit serial murders typically that is a male thing. Women don't have a penis and I don't know why this has to be explained

Was his first victim his own penis?

She look good

I bet her pussy is real good

I'm starting to think that anyone who is for self ID, trans rights, MTF competing in women's sports, and MTF murderers and rapists being housed in women's prisons is actually just someone who wants to harm women while virtue signaling.

Duh.

Lesbian crime!

Zhe is so stunning and brave!

Our dependable justice system at work, keeping us safe and protected.

maybe if feminism stopped excusing women who commit crimes, there would be less transtrenders trying to co-opt trans as get out of free jail card.

R30- Bitch please. The only people being getting away with crimes are the rich. Male and female.

"A few examples of modern oligarchies are Russia, China, Iran, and perhaps the United States.Nov 14, 2019."

Why has it come to this in our society. Maniacs who serve a bit of time - released to commit even worse crimes. Rinse, repeat.

Isn't psychology and criminal science advanced enough now, with statistical modeling and DNA added - to confidently determine if certain people will NEVER be safe free in society??

R32- The justice system doesn't gaf about the little people. Money and power is all that concerns them. They keep the wealthy safe. Not us. We are living in an Oligarchy.

I can’t believe he got such a short sentence for the second killing. And that he’s still at it at age 83.

Oh, and fuck calling this person “her.” The media needs to grow some balls and stop going along with these sickos.

[quote]I'm starting to think that anyone who is for self ID, trans rights, MTF competing in women's sports, and MTF murderers and rapists being housed in women's prisons is actually just someone who wants to harm women while virtue signaling.

You're just now picking up on this?

Better late than never, I guess.

It happened in NYC. Should be released by now given the bail reforms the Democrats in Albany imposed on the state.

Also the police should be arresting anyone who misgenders her given the law on that passed by the City Council under Corey Johnson.

"That rap stemmed from the April 18, 1963 shooting death of her live-in girlfriend, Jacqueline Bonds" Unbelievable. He's being referred to as a she. He'll probably go to a women's prison. Fucking psychosis on the part of the justice system (as well as his own).

Oh, and shut the fuck up R30, you worthless sack of pus.

Yes, R30 manages to blame women (!) for all this fuckery.

This never happens. And if it happens, it really doesn't matter. War is peace! Slavery is freedom! Transwomen are women!

Women have become so violent lately!

If they put him in a women's prison I hope he gets the absolute hell beaten out of him by the females. That would really feel like karma. Dahmer his evil ass.

When did Harvey become Trans? Was he one in 1963 and 1986 at the time of his first two murders?

R40 Lesbians are devils!

un huh. it found a wig in the trashbin, fished it out to wear and declared I am trans. No, it is a grifter and murderer and figured out another scheme to escape justice and access to additional victims. Grift. Grift. Grift.

R44- And a way to prey on women.

Now, now if she identifies as a woman she is one, tout court.

Ok, I'm a pineapple. And don't you fucking dare say differently. 🙄

This is dangerous. Why are people continuing to go along with this madness?

He's Trans so he can go to women's prison.

I'm so glad that the New York Post didn't hurt the delicate feelings of this vicious serial killer by misgendering him!

Do FTM opt to go to male prisons?

Nice to meet you, Pineapple. I’m a coffee pot!

R51- I remember one MTF was sent to a women's prison and I believe he raped a female inmate. I will Google and try to find an article about it. I think it just depends on the state, idk.

R52- I love you! 😄😘

I thought prisons were moneymakers.

Just establish trans prisons, with FTM blocks and MTF blocs.

And trans Olympics and trans athletic competitions, while you’re at it.

Szho she's a scherial killer?

Szchoooooocking!

How did she support herself?

OP- Those NYPD cops are so DUMPY nowadays.

Gurl Eva Gabor wigs never look good on felons or sociopaths....

R15, I don't think those situations would meet the legal definition of murder in most Western countries. Except maybe the last one (family being terrorised) depending on the circumstances.

Oh for the good old days, when asylums were plentiful.

She was seeing women. All this trans lesbianisn violence needs to stop.

Caitlyn stop yapping about Lia the swimmer and address this lesbian violence.

Since it’s a dismemberment murder, why aren’t they calling him a “Wisconsin woman”?

Men retain male patterns of criminality, even if they “identify” as women. Any person, reporter, media outlet, or justice system that plays along with this absurd charade has lost all credibility.

What a hateful thread. Smh.

Pointing out reality is hateful, R65? Why?

Be specific. Support your answer.

I see what you did there, R63.

It puts the lotion on its desperately hopeless skin or it gets the hose again, which it sorely needs!

And that wig!!!!!

Lesbians are becoming too Dark.

R53, do you mean this case?

R65, if your extricated, dried-out pussy was being used for a homeless-creep's umbrella stand, you wouldn't think so.

My outrage has nothing to do with my being pro-trans, which I am.

It's being against misogynistic women-hating homicide by a psychopath.

Sorry for your misplaced scruples.

I'm not blaming the victim but why would this woman have anything to do with this guy? I'm just curious.

^^^ She tried to look into his soul and accept his as a human . . . she failed.

Women should never ignore their instincts. Men have been trying to get them to let their guards down forevah. This the same old story with men who larp as women.

Reminds me of that Durst fella.

How the Fuchs are you still killing people at 83? God how can people be so evil?

CA Dept of Corrections used to have a good system when I worked for them as a medical consultant.

All trans women inmates were housed in a special pops unit at the men's prison in Tehachapi, and they were joined by (often femme) gay men who were in danger of predation, as well as gang drop outs. My favorite unit to work on! A lot of drama....but no raping of women. The trans women were seen by an endocrinologist for their hormones, etc.

R76, that sounds like a good system. Unfortunately, now there will just be headlines about trans rapists.

R76, how can prison officials allow men (whatever they may call themselves) in women's prisons? Surely they must have known rapes and assaults would happen.

How few tears here for the men being raped by men in prison. From the loons it's misandry, from the guys it's an erotic fantasy that misses the pain, damage, shame and trauma.

Plus some people just have a hard time telling someone the fun is over and don't want to cause lingering pain. The cleanup is just the practical effect.

Quote: How the Fuchs are you still killing people at 83? God how can people be so evil?

Beats me. I am a few decades younger and it is exhausting just walking to mailbox and back.

R80, I have to believe he has killed more people but just hasn't been caught.

R79- Because men are stronger than women and that is a scientific fact, the same way adults are stronger than children. Women are getting raped and beaten and killed. It should not be occurring to anyone, male or female. Especially when these people are imprisoned, trapped. Incarceration is meant as a punishment for offenders. The punishment is losing your freedom for whatever amount of time your sentence is. Period. No incarcerated inmate should have to live in fear and danger and be assaulted and victimized. ( Exception to this are baby killers. Fuck them). American prisons are brutal. Jails are dangerous. Corrupt with psychopathic and sadistic staff. They rape female inmates. Everything, and I mean everything, in jail is astronomically expensive. These are privately owned and run for pure profit. If you are poor LE targets you. Anything that they want to arrest you for they do. Their are people who have been serving nearly a year for traffic warrants. The corrupt LE, judges are getting their cut of profit too. They know the poor can't make even a 300.00 bail. Everyday an inmate is incarcerated is profit for them all. People need to wake up. Do you know how many people never make it out of that jail alive? They physically and emotionally torture inmates. There isn't any medical treatment. No medication, including hypertension meds. They let me lie on a steel bed with MS, Osteoporosis, and a broken left hip. The pain was ungodly. Seven days with a broken hip that had to be replaced. They put me in a restriction chair for 5 hours with the strap cutting into my right shoulder. Agony doesn't begin to describe it. Look up Victor Hill. My offense was a misdemeanor, the first time I have ever been in trouble. My husband and I fought. It wasn't physical. For that and being poor due to MS, I was tortured and physically assaulted. Humiliated by being forced to stand completely naked in front of male staff and male inmates for 6 hours. When I tried to reason with them I was put in a medieval torture device. Permanent damage to my shoulder. My shoulder and hip will hurt forever. The humiliation will burn in my brain for eternity. I do not think most of you realize that we are suffering. " The poor's." It will be you next because they aren't going to stop with us. They are incapable of stopping.

Prisons are bad and reforms are needed but R82 exaggerates.

Just heard on the local CBS news that the charges he was being held on have finally been upgraded to murder.

[quote] thus allowing violent men in women's prisons where confined women can't escape? Can you imagine the poor woman who has this man as her cellmate? That's beyond cruel and unusual. No way should this be legal or allowable.

See this is the hard part. You cannot vote for the Gavin Newsoms of the world. Sad to say even Joe Biden had been "captured". I don't know the answer - I would like to know who has got his ear on this issue and who is recommending his nominees and appointments. I fear it's Dr. Jill and I have no idea how to negate that.

I agree R85. Jill is a Professor and all this trans shit started in gender studies. Dr. Jill is probably a tranny supporter. I refused to vote for Gavin's recall but I voted for him for gov. After I saw who he was once married to and the fact that he used to be a coke head. He is sleazy. He should be charged with some kind of rape for putting men in women's prison.

R83- Your bitch ass would not have have survived an hour in that jail, much less 2 weeks. Google Victor Hill, idiot. He was the sheriff of that jail until very recently when he was charged with torturing inmates at the jail. He has run my town like a sadistic gang leader for a decade now. A statement from Attorney Alan G. Parker released by the Clayton County Sheriff's Office on Tuesday called the suspension politically motivated and emphasized that Georgia law limits lengths of suspensions if the official is not tried "at the first term of court."

A federal grand jury indicted Hill for civil rights violations in April after he allegedly ordered deputies to strap detainees in restraint chairs for hours inside the Clayton County Jail. The Department of Justice believes there is evidence that shows Hill deprived the detainees of due process and the use of force caused pain and bodily injury.

Hill pleaded not guilty and Gov. Brian Kemp suspended Hill pending the outcome of the federal case against him.

A Fulton County Superior Court judge denied a request to override the governor's suspension in December.

"Sheriff Hill’s defense attorneys are ready to go to trial to get him vindicated from charges that are clearly politically motivated," Parker's statement said.

You know what's actually hateful, R65? Murdering people.

LGBTQ+ crime. Tranny crime.

It’s interesting how he’s identified as a man turned trans woman.

Is it that this journalist is afraid of saying serial killer trans woman?

Years ago, this guy would have been identified as a straight male crossdresser.

Now, he's a woman and part of the LGBT.

The vast majority of serial killers have been transvestites.

R91 Welcome to the family, Harvey.

R66 here. Still waiting for your reply, R65.

How the FUCK does a serial killer get out of prison and into regular society? One murder conviction I can see having a limited sentence depending on circumstances, but I think a second indicates an ongoing threat to the public and that said convict needs to be locked up for life.

Stop letting these women beaters claim transness to excuse their crimes and fuck up the female serial killer statistics.

Just try and stop us

I'm fucking sorry. I use people's requested pronouns out of simple kindness and respect for their humanity. These murdering pieces of shit do not deserve simple kindness and the sure as fuck don't deserve respect. I won't kowtow to scum. As R16 said,

HE/HIM. HE/HIM.

R98 is crazy.

SHE/SHE CRAZY.

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What would be the problem with having a special wing just for FTM and MTM? I mean there aren't that many of them and it's just jail cells.

Worthless shitbag. 83 years old. And still at it. The problem it has with women is Mom did not flush it down the toilet while she had a chance to. Your tax dollars will be used to shelter, feed and care for this worthless shitbag.

*Update*

You can be sure that the word "transgender" would be mentioned non-stop in the media if the victim was trans instead of the murderer.

HER. These crazy enablers are still using HER and SHE.

[quote] Transgender convicted murderer, 83, was seen on surveillance footage sitting on a severed HUMAN LEG in HER motorized wheelchair - before being arrested for murdering and dismembering woman, 68, in Brooklyn

Complete fucking insanity, R105.

They keep calling him 'Harvey' but also 'she'. Does it have a dick or not?

How is an 83-year old who uses a mobility scooter even capable of dismembering a human body? Who’s paying its rent? Why did it get out of prison in the first place?

The NYT headline yesterday stated "She Killed Two Women. At 83, She Is Charged With Dismembering a Third." which is terribly dishonest.

At least other newspapers went with more gender-neutral headlines like "serial killer".

[quote] Who’s paying its rent?

Almost certainly the taxpayers

[quote]OP- Those NYPD cops are so DUMPY nowadays.

I actually recognize the one with the tats; I've seen him around. Believe me when I tell you that those guys are svelte compared to the walruses waddling around the city.

r96, I'm willing to bet he got out early because he received a more lenient sentence as a woman than he would have gotten as a man.

From NYT linked piece..

"In October 1963, she was convicted of first-degree murder for fatally shooting her then-girlfriend in a Harlem apartment building.

Editors’ Picks A Coach’s Homophobic Taunt Forces Him to Reconsider the Weight of Words Taylor Tomlinson: A Comic With the Confidence of a Star ‘My Cousin Vinny’ at 30: An Unlikely Oscar Winner Continue reading the main story The state court judge overseeing the case imposed a life sentence, after the jury was unable to decide whether to impose the death penalty, court filings show.

In May 1984, Ms. Marcelin was released from prison on lifetime parole, according to state records.

Less than a year later, after a body was found in a bag near Central Park, Manhattan prosecutors said Ms. Marcelin had stabbed to death another woman she had been living with. In 1986, she pleaded guilty to first-degree manslaughter and was sentenced to six to 12 years in prison, state records show.

Because of her parole status, that sentence was added to the original life term, records show. Over the next three decades, she repeatedly sought release on parole and was denied. In a 1997 appearance before the state parole board, Ms. Marcelin described the 1984 crime and said she had “problems” with women, according to a state court filing.

In 2010, the state denied another bid for parole, saying “your release at this time is incompatible with the welfare and safety of the community,” court filings show.

She was released on parole in 2019, records show."

Late as 2002/2003 parole was denied and decision upheld because (long story short) parole board and appellate courts felt Harvey Marcelin was not fit to be released into society, and his two previous heinous crimes (second committed shortly after being paroled first time), proved so.

More...

Have not been able to research further but one guesses from above two posts by 2019 parole board must have felt Harvey Marcelin was too old for any further heinous acts/serious crimes. Boy were they wrong....

There has been a push both in NYS and elsewhere to release elderly prisoners for a host of reasons.

First is obvious, prisons aren't nursing homes and while state has custody of such individuals it must provide care. Old persons require vast amounts of health and other care that can be a drain on state resources. If they are paroled out into general population their welfare then becomes a matter for someone else. This even if in states like NY which have a vast welfare systems means it's just moving a problem from one state agency to another.

Out gay NYS senator Brad Hoylman recently introduced a bill that would make elderly prisoners easily be paroled.

[quote] How is an 83-year old who uses a mobility scooter even capable of dismembering a human body?

He had an accomplice who went with him to Home Depot to buy saws. Though the DM said it was “another woman,” I’d bet good money it was another troon. Who knows what other assistance they provided.

R34

Above posts relating to Harvey Marcelin prior parole bids answers your questions.

Mr. Marcelin was convicted of second degree murder back in 1963, and given a sentence of 20 years to life. He was released in 1984 under "lifetime parole". That means if he violated terms of release he could be sent back to slammer for balance of life conviction.

That is what happened when Mr. Marcelin was convicted in of manslaughter in 1986 and sentenced to a six-to-12-year term in prison. He was sent back to prison not just on new 6-12 term, but also to complete his original 20 years to life piled on.

Sadly (or not as case may be), in NYS felony sentences largely if not all run concurrently. That is Mr. Marcelin wouldn't have had to serve out his 20 to life, then cope with 6-12.

Rest is too complicated for explanation here on DL, so have provided a link.

NYT has lost any shred of credibility it might have had.

The trannies are out of control!

That motorized scooter it uses? Your tax dollars paid for that too.

I'm pretty sure I could beat the shit out of an 83 year old tranny.

It isn't NYT per se, but laws and conventions in New York that determine pronoun use.

It is a violation of NYC anti-discrimination laws to use a gender pronoun different than what someone informs an employer, government office or whoever instructs.

IIRC Harvey Marcelin's court and incarceration papers from first two times at rodeo state "male", but those occurred before changes in NYS/NYC anti-discrimination laws.

Furthermore don't see what some of you are all hot about.

NYT has been a progressive, liberal, left, socialist democrat rag for a few decades now.

None of you had any problems with NYT's expansive and exhaustive gay rights/inclusion/equality coverage up to and including heavily promoting same sex marriage. For a good while every issue of NYT was like reading the Advocate; you couldn't get away from stories featuring (largely) white, well off gays and their activities.

The victim did not live in a homeless shelter, she lived in housing provided by the city (at reduced cost) for glbt's, Stonewall House in Brooklyn. This is known in NYC.

The organization for gay seniors, SAGE, sent out an email yesterday noting her death. Apparently she was active organization. While expressing sympathy they also informed their members that it was best to refrain from focusing in the press on the gender identity of the suspected murderer.

Worse than a normal senior housing, LGBT+ one

Sage members rely on Sage for social activities, social workers, and some free food.

Gotta keep those eldergays and elderlezzies in line!

This is how it works.

Stonewall House has both LGBT and homeless (straight or whatever) seniors.

"Before she disappeared, Leyden was living at Stonewall House, a residence for LGBTQ+ seniors in Fort Greene that also caters to some homeless seniors through a lottery system. A next-door neighbor, who did not want to be named, said she had been trying to get Leyden active socially."

You cannot create exclusive housing for this or that minority using any sort of government money. You can reserve portion of housing for specific groups, but other than that.....

[quote]NYT has been a progressive, liberal, left, socialist democrat rag for a few decades now.

No,it isn't. It's a neocon rag. There's nothing "progressive" about them unless you're a right-wing freak. Every other fucking week, there was a story about the "aggrieved" Trump supporter and Maggie Haberman enabled that fascist pile of shit.

So this freak has presumably murdered at will his whole life, enabled by a justice system that is systemically unjust. What a weak country we live in.

*Update*

Another update from local NYC news media.

Victim died from blunt trauma to head, so at least poor unfortunate soul was dead before being carved up.

That cop with that tats is hot

Big article in the NYTimes about the killer and the murders over the decades:

The person before the parole panel in June 2019 was tall and slim, in far better shape than 81 years of life might have suggested. Mild and polite, the supplicant seemed nothing like the murderer who had spent decades in prison, first for shooting a girlfriend dead in 1963, and then for stabbing another in 1985, stuffing her corpse into a bag and leaving it in Central Park.

“I’m no longer that person,” the inmate told the parole board commissioners. Despite misgivings, they would rule in favor of release.

Two and a half years after leaving Cayuga Correctional Facility, Marceline Harvey was accused again, charged with killing Susan Leyden, 68. Parts of Ms. Leyden’s body were found in March inside a shopping cart in East New York, stuffed in a bag. In Ms. Harvey’s apartment, investigators found a bloody mop, a tub full of towels and a box for an electric saw.

For seven decades leading up to her latest arrest, Ms. Harvey navigated New York’s intricate criminal justice bureaucracy: the country’s largest police apparatus, the state’s overlapping welfare agencies, its prisons and the officials charged with deciding who remains in them. She confronted the system in some moments, manipulated it in others. Behind her was a trail of crimes so grisly that for decades, parole officials refused to let her out.

Now Ms. Harvey has pleaded not guilty to murder. Ms. Harvey’s lawyer at the Brooklyn Public Defenders’ office declined to comment on her case. Ms. Harvey, who is being held at Rikers, could not be reached for comment; she declined an interview request.

Decades worth of police documents and court records detail the life of Ms. Harvey, a transgender woman who transitioned at some point after her release from prison. Central to her tale are more than three decades of parole board minutes obtained through the state’s Freedom of Information Law. In them, she insists that authorities exaggerated evidence, changes stories about crimes she admitted and veers between contrition and blaming those she killed.

The records include several examples of her harassing or attacking women throughout her life. She was accused of attempted rape at 14; the victim was an 8-year-old girl. Ms. Harvey, who by her own account struggled with her mental health, said she had to choke down rage when women challenged her manliness before she transitioned — making fun of her soft voice, for example.

A homeless shelter worker and people close to Ms. Leyden questioned whether, despite her gender identity, Ms. Harvey should have been placed in a homeless shelter for women, given her history of attacking and murdering them. Speaking from Rikers to The New York Post, Ms. Harvey referred to herself as having two personas: one, a violent male named Harvey Marcelin — the name she used for most of her life and is included in court records — and the other, a soft-spoken woman named Marceline Harvey.

But transgender people are far more likely to become victims of violence, not perpetrators, and data from the National Center for Transgender Equality suggests more than half of transgender people who stay in shelters encounter harassment.

And the crucial question surrounding Ms. Harvey’s case is less complicated: How was someone who had killed twice before allowed the chance to kill again? (cont.)

(cont.) Anger doesn’t dissolve at 84,” said Dr. Katherine Ramsland, a professor of forensic psychology at DeSales University in Pennsylvania. “It wouldn’t surprise me that a person who killed earlier — even 50, 60 years earlier — out of anger, would feel the same compulsion.”

Even so, a spokesman for the New York Department of Corrections and Community Supervision said Ms. Harvey met the criteria for release. Ms. Harvey had completed therapy and coursework, and had letters of support from organizations that work with released offenders, the parole records show. The prison system had deemed her unlikely to commit a violent offense.

Krystal Rodriguez, policy director for the Data Collaborative for Justice at John Jay College of Criminal Justice, said the crime of which Ms. Harvey is accused was so bizarre that parole board officials would be unlikely to foresee it.

“Someone committing such a tragic and violent crime at this age is so incredibly rare that it would be very difficult for anyone reviewing this case to even consider,” Ms. Rodriguez said.

Born in 1938, Ms. Harvey spent her youth in New York, the child of a single mother. Even as a teenager, she displayed a propensity for violence, particularly toward women, and had a complicated gender identity. According to court records and parole board minutes, Ms. Harvey was treated at Catholic Charities, which paired clergy and laypeople with troubled children, after the attempted rape at 14.

As a young adult, Ms. Harvey — described then as a tall, slender man — lived with her mother and earned $75 a week operating copy machines. She had a girlfriend, Jacqueline Bonds, but her life was chaotic: Ms. Harvey drank often, took cocaine, regularly assaulted Ms. Bonds and was in and out of psychiatric care.

In early 1963, Ms. Harvey was again accused of rape, this time as a 24-year-old. (The allegations are referred to by a parole official in a hearing minutes, which offer no further details.)

The accusation set off a spasm of violence: That April, Ms. Harvey killed Ms. Bonds, who had been scheduled to appear before a grand jury considering the case. Ms. Harvey shot her point blank in their crowded Manhattan apartment, chased her as she staggered through the kitchen and living room, and shot her twice more before she collapsed, according to board minutes and a police report.

She was found guilty of first-degree murder and sentenced to life.

During two decades behind bars, she repeatedly appealed her conviction in state and federal courts, and tried to persuade the parole board to free her. Skeptical officials as far back as 1984 cited her aggression toward women. Even in prison, one noted, Ms. Harvey had sent inappropriate letters to candy-striper hospital volunteers.

“That is all in the past, and when I became aware that this pattern was creating, I cut it loose,” Ms. Harvey said.

Weeks later, the board freed Ms. Harvey and she returned to New York.

In the early morning hours of Oct. 30, 1985, Roberto Romano was in the lobby of the Cambridge Residence Hotel in Harlem where he lived. He was “smoking reefer,” as he later told police officers, when the tenant of room 602 passed, pushing a shopping cart that held a garbage bag.

“The bag ripped on the first step and blood came out,” Mr. Romano told the police, according to investigative reports.

Hours later, a man walking on Manhattan’s Upper West Side saw a dark plastic bag at the entrance to Central Park at 106th Street, dripping blood. He tore it open, revealing a pair of bound legs.

The victim, identified as Ana Laura Sierra in police records, had been stabbed repeatedly, tied up with a rope, and wrapped in plastic. At 29, she had a heroin habit, according to parole board reports, and several prostitution arrests. Police investigators noticed a pattern: She frequented certain addresses, including room 602 at the Cambridge Residence Hotel.

The address belonged to Ms. Harvey.

(coni.)At the time, Ms. Harvey was unmoored. She had no stable job, was caught up in street life and wanted to be a pimp, she later told parole officials. Ms. Harvey and Ms. Sierra occasionally lived together.

“She was very fiery and provocative,” Ms. Harvey later told parole officials. Ms. Sierra, she said, brought “johns and tricks to the apartment,” and sold Ms. Harvey’s flute for drugs.

Court records suggest Ms. Sierra was stabbed over 30 times, but Ms. Harvey disputed that in her parole board meetings, according to the transcripts. “Some of those were puncture wounds from rats and squirrels,” Ms. Harvey said, noting the body had sat in the park for hours.

Charged with first-degree murder, Ms. Harvey struck a plea bargain with the Manhattan district attorney’s office for first-degree manslaughter and was returned to prison in 1986.

For 35 years and across 15 hearings, parole officials denied Ms. Harvey freedom. But in June 2019, as she entered her ninth decade, she appeared by video before a two-commissioner panel, Otis Cruse and Joseph Crangle.

Mr. Cruse — a former parole officer who joined the board in 2015 — noted Ms. Harvey’s lengthy history of wrongdoing. Ms. Harvey said she had no family to guide her, and that drug and alcohol abuse contributed.

“Many of those who we speak to lack the guidance that they wish they have had in their youth,” Mr. Cruse said, “but very few of them have replicated a criminal history that’s as graphic as yours has been.”

Still, the commissioners noted that internal assessments indicated a low risk for felony violence or arrest.

“I give you my word,” Ms. Harvey told the board members. “I will never reoffend.”

They approved her release.

Mr. Crangle did not respond to a request for comment; Mr. Cruse deferred to the Department of Corrections. Asked whether the commissioners stood by their decision, Thomas Mailey, a spokesman for the Department of Corrections and Community Supervision, said the transcripts speak for themselves.

On Aug. 7, 2019, Ms. Harvey left prison and reported to her parole officer.

That December, an update popped up on a Facebook page belonging to a Marceline Harvey. It had the caption “Love personified.” It was a picture of Susan Leyden.

Born in 1953, Ms. Leyden had spent most of her life in northern New Jersey. A divorced mother of one daughter, she had run her own jewelry business for years, according to one person close to her.

But facing a downturn, Ms. Leyden decided around a decade ago to relocate to the city, looking to live closer to friends and move around more easily with public transit. It was an affirmative step after a lifetime of loss — her father, two brothers and sister had died, and her marriage had unraveled. She first lived in Queens, and later moved to Brooklyn, where she landed in a supportive housing community for seniors in Fort Greene.

It is unclear where her path first crossed Ms. Harvey’s, but at the time Ms. Harvey posted about Ms. Leyden, she was seeking her own placement in city shelters. Immediately after her 2019 release, she sought housing in the Bronx.

Ms. Harvey “presented as a mild spoken, very tall Black man,” said Anne Brennan, the nurse who ran the intake. “I said, ‘Well, why are you in the women’s shelter?’”

Ms. Brennan said she told Ms. Harvey that placing her in a women’s shelter seemed like a bad idea, given her history of killing women. Despite her objections, Ms. Brennan said her supervisors allowed Ms. Harvey entry.

“Apparently his feelings and identity were far more important than all the other women that were terrified of him,” she said. (cont.)

(cont.) Julia Savel, a spokeswoman for the city’s Department of Social Services, said rules were followed.

“Our policy — in accordance with the law — is to place individuals in shelters based on their reported gender identity,” she said. “Being homeless or transgender does not make you inherently violent and are not connected to the crime that was committed.”

Though Ms. Harvey continued to post about Ms. Leyden on social media pages, Ms. Leyden’s friends never knew of Ms. Harvey, and Ms. Leyden never discussed her.

On Feb. 27, according to the police, video showed Ms. Leyden entering Ms. Harvey’s building in East New York.

On March 3 — two and a half years after Ms. Harvey posted the first photo of Ms. Leyden — the New York Police Department got a grisly 911 call: There was a shopping cart outside a pawnshop in a mostly industrial section of East New York. Inside, a bag contained a woman’s torso. It was Ms. Leyden’s.

I don’t think she’s terribly pretty.

And I have a problem with that.

That cop 👮‍♀️ with the tats looks like RIFF RAFF himself.

Don't judge..

She/he/murderer needs to be put down like the mad dog he is. Period

[quote]R100 Transgender convicted murderer, 83, was seen on surveillance footage sitting on a severed HUMAN LEG in her motorized wheelchair -

Told ya I was hardcore.

this victim was a senior citizen who became estranged from her family after falling into drugs.

drugs = impaired judgment

[quote]Oh, and fuck calling this person “her.” The media needs to grow some balls and stop going along with these sickos.

Agree. It's insane. I can't access the comments. Is anyone other than DL outraged by this?

R145 Yes but they aren't asked what they think. Media is largely a tight-knit community of latte-sipping idiots, out of touch with people who aren't active on Twitter.

[quote]But transgender people are far more likely to become victims of violence, not perpetrators

Bullshit.

These trans people are demented and diabolical

R1 I heard about the Mad Chopper years ago on a tv crime show. They had one of the Good Samaritans who actually stopped to help get. Mary Vincent said that previous vehicles attempted to stop. They slowed down but once they saw her horrific condition they drove off. Most likely out of shock and fear. I will never forget it.